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Some Facts Ahead Of The Derby

- United have had a higher average attendance than City EVERY SINGLE SEASON since 1947.

- United players have won the European Player of the Year four times (Sir Bobby Charlton, Denis Law, George Best and Cristiano Ronaldo). City players have won it zero times.

- When City won the league in the 1968, they had the 6th highest attendance in the country. United had the highest average attendance of 57,552 (more than 10,000 higher than any club that season).

- Since City won their last trophy in 1976, United have won 11 League titles, 2 European Cups, 8 FA Cups, 4 League Cups, 1 UEFA Cup Winners’ Cup, 1 UEFA Super Cup, 1 Intercontinental Cup and 1 FIFA World Club Cup.

- When United were playing in Division 2 during the 1974-1975 season, they still had the highest average attendance of any club in the country, including Division 1.

- City have gone 35 years without a trophy. United once went 37 years without a trophy… but for 11 of those years no football was played because of World War 1 and World War 2.

- Between 1946 and 1949 United played at Maine Road whilst reconstruction work was being done on Old Trafford after the bombings in the war. In the first season, when City won the league, United had an average attendance of 4,662 more than City at their own stadium. In the second season, United had an average attendance of 12,165 more than City at their own stadium. In the third season, United had an average attendance of 10,109 more than City at their own stadium. Over the three years United were at Maine Road, they had an average attendance of 8,979 more than City.

- United players have won the PFA Player of the Year 11 times (Mark Hughes 2, Eric Cantona, Roy Keane, Teddy Sheringham, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Cristiano Ronaldo 2, Ryan Giggs and Wayne Rooney). City players have won it zero times.

- Between 1947 and the year before the Munich Air Disaster, there was an average of almost 7,000 more United fans attending games than City.

- Going back to 1894, United have played City 157 times in all competitions. United have won 65 and City have won 42.

- City were a more successful club on the pitch than United in the 1970s, yet there was a difference of over 13,000 in our average attendances, with United the best supported club of the decade.

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Attendance figures from European Football Statistics




 

162 Comments

  1. smartalex says:

    Manchester United is the greatest football club in the world, ever!

    Fact.

  2. shubhangmanred says:

    Nonsense! City are a massive club!

  3. Fergie's gum says:

    Reds,follow me on twitter @yugo44

  4. smartalex says:

    Who is this twit that wants us to follow him? He is irritating, and wish he’d stop already.

  5. CedarsDevil says:

    Comparing United to shitty is like comparing the planet earth with all its riches to a square mile of dry desert with no life.

  6. StatesideAussie says:

    We have also won the Community Shield 11 times since 76 (two of those were shared, though). I know it doesn’t rate highly, since it’s a one-off match at the start of the season, but I did see some interesting stats once that seemed to show a correlation between winning the Shield and winning the League at the end of that year. In any event, to qualify for the Shield, you have to win the League, and either win the FA Cup or come second in the League (if the same team wins both the league and cup), so in terms of what it takes to qualify, it still has some status. I am sure Shitty would mention it, if they had won it since 76. Or, to put it another way, I’m sure they’d be happier if their trophy cabinet post-76 sported a community shield instead of only an old china teapot!

  7. WFW!!!? says:

    How do you win the league and only get 6th in attendance. That’s pure comedy.

  8. StatesideAussie says:

    Cedars … like comparing the Mona Lisa to the drunken scrawls that I scribble on the back of soggy beer coasters when I’m bored. Whenever I think of Shitty, and all the glory we’ve won and the wonderful football we’ve played over the years, I get a “cat that ate the cream” smile that the old Mona herself would have been proud of…

  9. Praha says:

    Do we really need to list the reasons why we’re better than City?

  10. smartalex says:

    Comparing United to shitty is like comparing a banquet, to a fart.

  11. shubhangmanred says:

    Oye gringos! Scott posted a list of all our potential ties some time back, can’t find the article. Anybody can help? He posted the same thing on twitter a few days back.

  12. MG says:

    Sorry Scott

    They are the 1.1 billion team TM

    Richest in the world TM

    And the future belongs to them TM

    Who the fuck are Manchester United?

    :lol:

  13. Raizzen says:

    Sorry guys off topic but I just gotta share this with u guys..

    “Rumours are that the upcoming FIFA 12 has a ‘torres difficulty mode. When you click on it , it suddenly becomes impossible to score .”

    took it off from some guy’s FB lol

  14. MG says:

    Comparing Manchester United to city is like comparing eloquence to absurdity

    I like this game smartalex – Good evening mate ;)

    Watch it soon we shall be invaded by the enemy and the dark side shall have to rise once more :)

  15. smartalex says:

    shubhangmanred, potential ties? do you mean cup-ties? If so, It’s Real Madrid or barcelona in the CL; and bolton or stoke in the FA Cup.

    Else, do you mean potential ties to new players? Or are we talking bow-ties?

  16. StatesideAussie says:

    Raizzen … does it also have a “City Trophy Mode”?

  17. smartalex says:

    Good evening MG!

    Comparing Manchester United to city is like comparing MG to max.

  18. MG says:

    Lace ties?

    :)

  19. smartalex says:

    Aunties?

  20. StatesideAussie says:

    … like comparing Champagne Krug to bilge-water…

  21. MG says:

    Oh I got it lingerie ties – oh yesh ;)

    smartalex

    ha ha ha – funny poor max that city supporter with his future tattoos :)

    Evening StatesideAussie

    Yes apparently FIFA have been in touch with Sheikh Mansour – Blatter apparently has been promised all the funds in the world to drive his nomination to another win – as long as he leans on EA Sports to put that “city trophy mode in”

    And you think it couldn’t get any better :lol:

  22. Raizzen says:

    StatesideAussie,

    It does but players who picked the mode would have to subscribe until FIFA 47 to play through the whole mode.

  23. shubhangmanred says:

    @smartalex lol! No no it was about how we had to play a match every 3/4 days.
    And i see you guys are enjoying satiere over here :P
    Btw comparing City to United is like comparing Heskey to Ronaldo.

  24. MG says:

    Now all city have to do is have that trophy mode in PES 2012 and FM 2012 and their domination over Manchester United is complete

    :)

  25. MG says:

    shubhangmanred

    You mean comparing city to United is like comparing Balotelli to Ronaldo

    :)

    What a joyous night it is – it is most certainly so ;)

  26. shubhangmanred says:

    Now that we are on the topic of Fifa, does anyone else feel that MUFC players are HIGHLY underated?
    Nani is 82, Valencia 81, and Naseri is 84ish. Wtf?

  27. CedarsDevil says:

    More like comparing history, tradition, ethics with shit….pure shit….

    Keep it up shitty, we need you…. Comical club

  28. smartalex says:

    shubhangmanred, possibly this is the article you were looking for.
    http://therepublikofmancunia.com/confirmed-fixture-changes-vs-chelsea-blackburn/

    Comparing Manchester United to city is like comparing RoM to goal . com

  29. shubhangmanred says:

    Comparing City to United is like comparing Bluemoon to ROM.

  30. Raizzen says:

    MASSIVE comical club. Mancini and Tevez should come up with a couple of one-liners instead they came up with even funnier things – like David Cook and the all-time classic “Not if but when”

  31. indiandevil says:

    comparing United to City, is kinda like comparing Giggs to Stevie Me, rememeber Giggs11-0 Gerrard!

    guys give this a read: http://www.thehardtackle.com/index.php/the-manchester-derby-love-will-tear-us-apart/

  32. MG says:

    And welcome Cedars you Devil you :)

    Where is that Costas I hope he isn’t having a pre match kebab party ;)

  33. willierednut says:

    Quite simply, United > wee City

    Fergie’s Gum – Follow your shadow.

  34. Ferane-Mauritius says:

    comparing united to city is like comparing a live body to a skeleton…

  35. shubhangmanred says:

    Yes that’s the one! Thanks! Btw similar posts :)
    I like goal com although. Its efficient.

  36. smartalex says:

    After tomorrow’s game, no one must laugh when the city players climb the stairs to receive their chocolate minted medals. Let them have their 5 minutes in sweets-from-heaven.

  37. MG says:

    Mankini wants to replicate everything United has won

    Now pay attention wake me up for the match, until then I’m off back to bed :lol:

    I’ve never heard so much (fill in the blanks) in my life

    ;)

  38. Ferane-Mauritius says:

    @smartalex
    hahaha thats a reality…

  39. MG says:

    You mean Arabian dates smartalex :)

    Or Arabian dates covered in chocolate :)

  40. CedarsDevil says:

    MG

    ‘Bull shit’ seems right?

  41. smartalex says:

    Comparing United to city is like comparing the Fountain of Life to a dry gulch.

  42. willierednut says:

    Claptrap?

  43. TonyBee says:

    Manchester City….to be fair…… they are a good club……
    with very rich owners….
    have a really strong footballing squad….
    half decent manager…….
    Tevez,as their captain……
    just what could go wrong…………

    ANSWERS ON A FUCKING POSTCARD PLEASE……….ARF ARF

  44. willierednut says:

    Dzeko, meet Vidic. He comes from Serbia, he’ll fucking murder ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  45. smartalex says:

    I like this game that CedarsDevil started!

    Comparing United to city is like comparing Al Pacino to Shia LaBeouf.

  46. MG says:

    CedarsDevil

    About appropriate enough mate :)

    Comparing United to city is like comparing wisdom to the unwise :)

    claptrap will do willierednut :)

    Isn’t it lovely when the gang is singing from the same hymn sheet :lol:

  47. MG says:

    smartalex

    You mean comparing United to city is like comparing Harrison Ford to Shia LaBeouf – what stupid Spielberg did :lol:

  48. TonyBee says:

    Shia Lebouef…..think I had that once for dinner….it was shite…

  49. smartalex says:

    Comparing United to city is like comparing the Crown Jewels to Paul Jewell.

  50. TonyBee says:

    oh it was shin beef…sorry

  51. MG says:

    TonyBEE

    I tell what went wrong

    Bernstein got Rooney banned but didn’t count on Tevez getting fucked

    Karma is a bitch and Bernstein got bitched TM

  52. shubhangmanred says:

    Comparing City to United is like comparing Summerbee to Gary Neville.

  53. james21 says:

    Is it like compairing a bottle of 18 Year old Single Malt to a bottle of High Comissioner
    Come on reds lets put them well on the way to 37 years and get Richard Madeley the sack, the scarf wearing prick.

  54. smartalex says:

    MG, is that what Speilberg did? Twit! Speilberg reminds me of Schmeical, only opens his mouth to change feet.

  55. willierednut says:

    Haggis?

  56. TonyBee says:

    big style MG….

  57. MG says:

    Sorry TonyBee I somehow made you more menacing with capital EE’s ;)

    Not that you are my good friend :)

  58. shubhangmanred says:

    Comparing City to United is like comparing Justin Beiber to Michael Jackson.

  59. TonyBee says:

    AS GENTLE AS A FUCKING KITTEN …ME

  60. Mark the Devil says:

    comparing United to city is like comparing a cross dresser to a real woman.

  61. smartalex says:

    Comparing United to city is like comparing Sharon Stone to a kidney stone.

  62. TonyBee says:

    Comparing City to United is like comparing Chanel No 5 to a wet follow through fart

  63. MG says:

    smartalex

    Indiana Jones and something to do with Aliens and skulls – load of bollocks :)

    Idiot Spielberg – lost his mojo ;) What’s next Hayden Christiansen as Anakin Skywalker – oh dear – wait…

    :lol:

  64. Costas says:

    I’ve said it before. It’s like comparing Jenna Jameson in her prime with Susan Boyle.

  65. smartalex says:

    Comparing United to city is like comparing a saxophone to a vuvuleza.

  66. MG says:

    TonyBee

    of course you are like a kitten ;)

    Comparing city to United is like comparing no trophies to trophies – it’s like comparing a future that hasn’t yet happened to a reality which is taking place now

    :lol:

  67. Red Simmo says:

    comparing United with city is like…………….well, ………..comparing United with city!

  68. TonyBee says:

    Down the Road came the City men
    like the charge of the Bengal Lancers
    one in nine will last till full time
    the rest are fucking chancers

  69. Kings says:

    another fact, but this is a funny one – Manchester City’s Tony Book had to share the 1969 Footballer of the year award with Dave McKay of Derby County who were Division 2 Champions that season.

  70. TonyBee says:

    costas…you seen JENNA lately …dear oh dear

  71. smartalex says:

    MG, I can’t bring myself to watch these remakes, re-hashes and sequels. I’m too fearful that they will ruin the originals for me.

  72. TonyBee says:

    WAY too much cosmetic surgery

  73. smartalex says:

    Comparing United to city is like comparing a Trophy Room to a cardboard drinks coaster.

  74. willierednut says:

    United City? That’s like comparing Ricky Fatton and Ali. Just as I think about that, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  75. TonyBee says:

    remake films starring City players…

    SCARFACE > Tevez

  76. TonyBee says:

    FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE > Tevez again…….

  77. willierednut says:

    Indiana Jones 4 was absolute cack. Fucking Aliens!

  78. Costas says:

    @TonyBee

    Yeah mate. She’s nowhere near as hot as she was 10 years ago.

    @willie

    According to South Park, Lucas really sodomized Indiana Jones in that movie, lol.

  79. smartalex says:

    Comparing United to city is like comparing a harem to an inflatable doll.

  80. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Heard that number of 10K more at Maine road for the 3 years. Just shocking that.

    My contributions (2):
    Like comparing anything of substance to the empty space that would be left in its wake if chose to move on.

    Like asking if there is a sound when a tree falls in a forest, and asking who cares about the result. (don’t know and don’t care)

  81. smartalex says:

    A message from Jack’s dad.
    ‘Thank you to everyone involved for making such a special day happen and thank you to all at MUFC. 1 in 2,500 children will be diagnosed with a brain tumour of some sort. Not all will be cancerous, but they can all be very problematic. Be brain tumour aware.’
    http://www.jacksfund.co.uk

  82. smartalex says:

    Comparing United to city is like comparing a giant redwood to a burnt out matchstick.

  83. Spooky13 says:

    So any thoughts on the team for tomorrow? I am thinking:

    VDS
    Rafa Smalling Vidic Evra
    Valencia Carrick Scholes Nani
    Berbi
    Chico

    Lets go for it and get to the final!

  84. james21 says:

    @Willie
    Makes you wonder who these sick bastards are. Not ABU’S just sick people.

  85. willierednut says:

    James21 – I just think they hate all things United. No other reason, I can think of.

  86. dannysoya says:

    If not for the way we were changing coaches like clothes we would have been shitting all over city in the 70s.

  87. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Smartalex. You should check the DailyFail, they took down the article that they originally posted, headlined Foul mouthed Rooney (Pictured with Jack). Today they have some drivel that suggests that there was some outrage at Rooney, trying to get PR associated with the incident. But the outrage was all at the mirror for trying to imply anything other than concern for the boy Jack Marshall.

    We love you Jack, get well son.

  88. dannysoya says:

    @fletchtheman. Yh i saw that on the mail. Some idiotic fans were actually trying to say that wayne did this as a publicity stunt. I was like how on earth did they come up with that so fast? WOW. Until the little boy’s father had to take his time out of caring for his brave son to answer those fuckheads. I’ve had it with the media in Britain. They are hopeless.

  89. nemzthered says:

    man utd vs man shitty = HEAVEN vs HELL

  90. SteveG says:

    you always mention higher average attendance, but im curious just how full the attendance is percentage wise, im sure there would still be a gap but you cant just claim attendance all the time when stadium size is also a factor there

    unfortunately i was gutted to hear my exam is satuday during the game, and i cant even sneak united score updates from phone while taking it. so i just gotta hope the reds pull through without me watching them, though ill be taking the exam in my jersey

  91. james21 says:

    dannysoya
    No if Tommy Doc had kept his Dick in his pants. Thought he was doing some good with the club and building a good side.
    willie.
    Just can’t believe some people trying to spoil one of the greatest days of that young boys life so far. Just sicko’s and possibly twisted by their Utd Hatred.

  92. willierednut says:

    Yeah, Rooney letting a wee sick boy, give him a peck on the cheek will endear him to his haters. Anyway, this wasn’t about Wayne Rooney. It was about Jacky boy, seeing some of the players he adores. Good luck wee man.

  93. MG says:

    smartalex

    You are very shrewd in your thinking if you can’t watch such films – let down of epic proportions – :)

    And wherever the need for a prayer or some hope – we’ll stand – still standing – don’t give up Jack

    Don’t give up wherever and whoever you are.

  94. smartalex says:

    FletchTHEMAN. The accusers are the offenders. They say that Wayne is using an unfortunate boy, yet actually they are.

    I am dismayed by any response other than genuine concern for Jack.

    Of course, media abuse is common.
    And Jack’s forum is not the place for us to concern ourselves with it.

    All our thoughts that relate to Jack, his family, and our United family, are of love.

  95. smartalex says:

    Earthquake 2:0 would be an epicentral ratio. Also a let down of epic proportions.

  96. ibrza says:

    anyone remember that website that sells all the retro united jerseys?

  97. redevil_83 says:

    C’MON YOU RED DEVILSSSS DO US PROUD
    STUFF THE BITTERS AND THE FA ALONG WITH IT vamos vamoss onto
    wembleeyyy lets see a show!

  98. Rai says:

    M1 is closed all weekend junction 1 – 4 – m40 is a quicker route anyway to be fair. Quickest way if you have a driver is get the train from Watford or Harpenden, it’s an hours commute from there but fairly straight forward and you won’t get hammered with the traffic.

    On topic – besides the venue being a fuckin joke – should be an interesting game. Whoever wins the midfield battle will come through…4-4-2 has worked well lately so I’m really unsure what formation he’ll play to combat their midfield

  99. mattbw7 says:

    History is all well and good but I dont think we need to get into a pissing contest with City, the most important game in the history of derbies is tomorrow, only because its the next one.

  100. FletchTHEMAN says:

    @nemzthered
    “man utd vs man shitty = HEAVEN vs HELL”

    To right your are!!!! ha ha ha

  101. FletchTHEMAN says:

    @SmartAlex
    Jacks forum should be reserved for Jack.

    Said like the man you are lad and quite right. I put some links up early, but then realized the mistake.
    Hollowed ground is just that. Keep it red.

  102. willierednut says:

    Matt – That visual thinking mate.

  103. dannysoya says:

    @Matt i agree with you as well. We don’t need to get into a talking contest with the bitters. We do our talking on the pitch as has been the norm here at Manchester United. So far this week. I am actually impressed with the way the boys have kept quiet and have just gone about their business in the normal usual way. What scholesy said was not provocative in my view when i read his quotes. The media only make it look provocative to sell papers. Fergie even commended city. It’s all well and good. All i know is that WE WILL BEAT CITY TOMORROW!!! I AM SURE OF THAT!!!! COME ON UNITED!!!

  104. McQueen says:

    Steve G – well when we’re averaging 12,000 more than them in their own stadium then I think you’ll agree that capacity is not an issue

  105. ManchesterMike says:

    Comparing United to city is like comparing SAF to Man-weeny

  106. fitz'em'good'n'tight says:

    hold the phone!

    so you are tellin me that manchester isnt blue?

    but dzeko told us it was…

  107. Dakota says:

    Lets go ManU all the way baby

  108. King Eric says:

    Hope most of those cunts at the daily mail die in a horrific car accident.

  109. ibrza says:

    @smartalex.. thank mate but thats not it. this one had numerous for sale & other clubs and countries aswell.

  110. ZarfforeverUnited! says:

    guys just read the dailymail post…
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1377425/Manchester-city-united-again.html?

    back in the old days manchester used to be such a football capital…
    the relationship between utd and city are very good..
    utd has given city a lot of favor and so are city respectively…
    so i guess there’s no use we hate city so much because they’re are not that great..
    i bet the city fans just felt bitter cos the havent wont anything since the 70′s..
    lets our performance on the pitch do the talking! GGMU ! :)

  111. fergie is the boss says:

    King Eric – I am furious that they have gone this low, this kid is dying and he wanted the likes of rooney there, didnt jack call rooney the worlds best player. Wasnt this visit planed in advance, its one thing them having sand up their virgina over the swearing incident but this its at the bottom of the barrel to destroy rooney’s career and image

  112. StatesideAussie says:

    Raizzen at 19.04 … that’s very funny!

  113. StatesideAussie says:

    Found this fine homage to Bryan Robson in the Guardian, from Rob Smyth, talking about Robson’s performance in the FA Cup semi-final replay against the dippers in April 1985, which we won 2-1. Since it involves an FA Cup semi-final, and one of our Legends, plus the liking that some of us for movie references, I thought it’s worth repeating here in full. Cheers lads!

    There’s an amusing scene in The Big Lebowski that runs thus:

    The Big Lebowski: “What makes a man, Mr Lebowski?”

    The Dude: “I don’t know sir.”

    The Big Lebowski: “Is it being prepared to do the right thing, whatever the cost. Isn’t that what makes a man?”

    The Dude: “Sure. That and a pair of testicles.”

    The Big Lebowski: “You’re joking. But perhaps you’re right.”

    Had he seen Bryan Robson in action in various FA Cup semi-finals he would have eschewed the ‘perhaps’. You have never seen such a ceaseless demonstration of stones. In his playing days, Bryan Robson had stones like you would not believe. They should have been a national treasure, taken away for research, a replica on show in the Tower.

    He actually scored with them against Oldham in the semi-final replay of 1994, humping the ball over the line from close range. In his other three semi-finals – 1983, 1985 and 1990 – he settled for a metaphorical demonstration. On each occasion Robson scored a vital equaliser to set United on the way to victory.

    The best and most important came, of course, against Liverpool in a sensational replay in 1985. The first game was a minor classic, finishing 2-2, and the second match was even better. This was football as nature intended, a relentlessly attacking slugfest played by proper men in front of proper men, in an atmosphere that, 26 years on, effortlessly shivers the spine.

    Robson’s goal, straight after half-time, was a rare example of a player bending a match to his will but also to his skill, first with that storming surge from midfield and then with a majestic sidefoot into the top corner from 25 yards as a crowd of Liverpool players closed on him. Brian Moore’s imperious, throaty exclamation – “BRILLIANT goal!” – captured the moment perfectly.

    As the ball screamed into the top corner, Robson’s trademark humility was in evidence: a joyous punch of the air and then straight back to his business, his gameface on even before he had been swamped by team-mates, astonished that he had turned water into wine yet again. It was Robson at his absolute best, a moment that showed why, even when accompanied by some truly outstanding players, he was a one-man team. He had a will and bravery that blew the mind even in the 1980s, never mind nowadays.

    His three main managers – Ron Atkinson, Sir Bobby Robson and Sir Alex Ferguson – were openly in love with him, and in Ferguson’s autobiography lurks this lovely tribute:

    “It would have been impossible for any manager to avoid thinking of him as a hero. He was a miracle of commitment, a human marvel who could push himself beyond every imaginable limit on the field.”

    In recent times, there have been some hilarious suggestions that Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard are fit to lace Robson’s boots. A couple of lost causes have even opined that Gerrard and Lampard are better players than Robson was. It’s the very definition of nonsense.

    At the start of the Big Lebowski, Sam Elliott’s character says: “Sometimes there’s a man – I won’t say a hero, cause what’s a hero – but sometimes there’s a man who … well, he’s the man for his time and place; he fits right in there.” At Old Trafford in the 80s, Robson was that man. And while it’s hard to know what a hero is in the grubby modern age of English and indeed world football, it is beyond credible dispute that in the 1980s – and never more so than just after 9.30pm on 17 April 1985, as he was chaired off the field by delirious United fans – Bryan Robson embodied absolutely everything that a man and a hero should be.

  114. RedMegleeker says:

    My friend is a Liverpool fan, I’ve decided that he will be a City fan for the weekend.

  115. King Eric says:

    Stateside. Wow. Fantastic stuff. Absolutely spot on. A man of iron. No club could afford Bryan Robson if he was playing now.

  116. smartalex says:

    Thanks StatesideAussie! A great article on the truly great Bryan Robson!

  117. hammons says:

    I am pretty sure that this is the 159th Manchester Derby….. could be wrong, though

    City Preview: The Manchester Derby Invades London
    http://www.theunitedreligion.com/2011/04/city-preview-manchester-derby-invades.html

  118. ryan7 says:

    TRUE STORY OF MY THURSDAY NIGHT:

    So last night I played in my co-ed league against our arch rivals…

    I beat the keeper one on one and as I went to tap the ball in, I was tripped from behind in the box by the keeper. There was no ball contact whatsoever. No call, no penalty. I then realized what it feels like to be Manchester United player with all these bullshit ABU cheating cunt refs against us…

    As the game progressed, I hit the post 4 times and the keeper 3 times. Although I have been a prolific goalscorer in the past, my current form would suggest I am a waste of space in the striking department. I then realized what it is like to be Fernando Torres…

    In the last minute of the game – with the score tied – the other team scored to ultimately win the game. It was extremely disappointing for us, but it was what we deserved after doing fuck all before that. I then realized THIS IS HOW IT FEELS TO BE CITY!!!!

    Let’s kick their ass tomorrow!!

  119. sumzredarmy says:

    United are a 5 star team in fifa and in comparison to other players their rating is fair if you click the option to view their actual single abilities..fifa generally has only a few players that are in the 90 range..I found only like 3 or 4 that are in this range in the whole game..(To the guy that was saying that nani etc was underated)

  120. sumzredarmy says:

    United are a 5 star team in fifa and in comparison to other players their rating is fair if you click the option to view their actual single abilities..fifa generally has only a few players that are in the 90 range..I found only like 3 or 4 that are in this range in the whole game..(To the guy that was saying that nani etc was underated) I don’t really mind what rating they are as I put on bebe, obertan, gill and ekreim etc and still win ;)

  121. dannysoya says:

    It’s still some 13 hours to game time and yet i’m already pumped for this game. COME ON UNITED!!! That Banner must stay hanging at Old Trafford after saturday. COME ON UNITED!!!! THIS IS OUR YEAR!!! enough of teams stealing our trophy. Everton stole our F.a cup in 2009 on penalties. WE WILL NOT ALLOW IT THIS TIME!!!! COME ONNN BOOYYYSSS!!! i can’t even sleep LOL.

  122. Raizzen says:

    HAHAHA thats a good one ryan7! This is how it feels to be Shitty!

  123. Ash says:

    Comparing shitty to united is like comparing emile heskey to pele.

  124. Ash says:

    @kings
    Its clear the writer is jealous of united.See the way he wrote No chace of winning us the treble that shows his hatred for us.You know i love when someone writes like this.
    If you ask these fools which team they support they would chelsea,liverfools,arsenaletc etc.But the truth is they dont support any team they just hate united because of our success.
    An intelligent and a knowledgeable fan would appreciate united even though he may support other team but a person who is a loser in his life would hate the successful guys or teams like united.
    They would keep on writing even if we win the treble.Dont be surprised if someone says united would be dropped out of top 4 next season.The point is they hate us and their hatred makes us strong.
    BELIEVE AND SUPPORT UNITED.

  125. smartalex says:

    Wayne Rooney is treating six deprived youngsters to a day out at the FA Cup semi-final today.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2011/04/16/wayne-rooney-taking-six-deprived-kids-to-fa-cup-semi-final-115875-23064322/

  126. smartalex says:

    Sir Alex on the benching of Berbatov
    “Every player in this country has faced that at some point in their career, when another player emerges to challenge you. That’s why players like [Ryan] Giggs and [Paul] Scholes are driven to make sure their standards are really, really high. Anyone who takes their place has got to be good. That’s the great challenge footballers have.’’
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8454979/Manchester-City-v-Manchester-United-Sir-Alex-Fergusons-team-revel-in-striking-similarities-to-Treble-winners-of-99.html

  127. smartalex says:

    Interesting stat from the ^ linked Telegraph article

    “United hunt their 100th goal of the season (70 in the league, 12 in Europe, eight in the League Cup, six in the FA Cup and three in the Community Shield).”

  128. smartalex says:

    Chaos as blaze closes motorway.

    With higher traffic volumes anticipated the closure is likely to cause problems for those leaving London for an Easter holiday, football fans heading to the FA Cup semi-final between Manchester United and Manchester City at Wembley and those travelling into the capital for Sunday’s London Marathon.
    http://www.whitbygazette.co.uk/news/national/chaos_as_blaze_closes_motorway_1_3296223

  129. Costas says:

    Morning lads. The big day is here. as Rio would say, “lets ‘aaaaave it!”

  130. mattbw7 says:

    Hi Smartalex, pretty clear the Merson comment is driven more by his anti utd bias than anything else, he makes three rather daft points, age, what has age got to do with anything, the fact it wouldn’t be for doing charidee work al’a Botham and the worse point he shouldn’t get something for just doing his job, what the bitter had it all and blew it bankrupt twat doesn’t get is that knighthoods are routinely given for outstanding achievements in your field of work, Ellen McCarthur got one for being the 1st woman to sail round the world single handedly (and she was younger than Giggs) and whatever medals Giggs may or may not get this year. he’s still the most decorated footballer in the whole history of English football. So well done to Merse for reinforcing the stereotype that most footballers are thick

    I really love to read crap like that because I can guarantee someone will spout to me as reasoned argument!

    Anyway its the morning of the match, I’m off for a shower, breakfast and then the coach, see you all later.

  131. smartalex says:

    Good morning Costas, happy match day!

  132. smartalex says:

    Hi mattbw7. Another example of absolute ABU!

    Enjoy the day mate! Give us a wave!

  133. Rai says:

    Morning Costas morning all.

    Really enjoyed that link Stateside. To even suggest Gerrard or Lampard are in the same league as Robbo: ” It’s the very definition of nonsense.” How very true.

  134. mattbw7 says:

    Are you there as well Smartalex or do you mean on the telly

  135. theboogeyman says:

    Morning everyone.

  136. smartalex says:

    I mean on the telly, mattbw7. I’m in the middle of a rain forest in deepest, darkest Africa right now, hoping and praying that the impending rains don’t interrupt my satellite coverage! Seriously!

  137. mattbw7 says:

    Wow, well I’ll be thinking of you if we score and hope you didn’t miss it, what are you doing in an African rain forest, poaching?

  138. dela says:

    Morning everyone.
    Big, big day. We have beaten the bitters every time we’ve faced them after the oil arrived, but we still haven’t thrashed them as yet. Will tonight be the night?

    I hope SAF sends out Berba and Owen/Chicharito in a 4-4-2, though i have a lousy feeling it will be a counter-attacking 4-5-1 all over again. Either way, a win is a win and I’ll gladly take a boring 1-0.

  139. Rai says:

    Kings – He was probably off his face when he wrote that the fat twat. Just because he blew his career away he’s obviously jealous of Giggs. Giggs is twice the player and twice the man. Merson is a fat has-been who people will remember as a poor mans Gazza. Liverpool fans have been calling for Dalglish to get a knighthood, now that is a load of bollocks.

    Onto the match, a part of me thinks the boss will go with Hernandez and Berbatov, however with Rooney suspended, he might be concerned about the midfield battle and play one up front…If he goes for the lone striker it’ll be Betbatov but I can’t see him leaving out Hernandez with his current form…it’s a tough one..

  140. Ash says:

    Michael Owen wont start today thats for sure but he may play an important part today in our win.

  141. smartalex says:

    Poaching eggs mate! I’ve been living here for 2 years now, initially assisting with some organic permaculture, and more recently I have been learning to write. I won’t be here much longer though. I’m considering a return to my roots in Kirkcaldy, although I expect to be swayed against it by the weather. I will maybe move to the coast of KwaZulu-Natal in South Africa, as I have family there.

    I will keep the United flag flying, wherever I go!

  142. dela says:

    My lineup for tonight:

    VDS- OShea- Rio- Vidic- Evra- Valencia- Carrick- Anderson- Nani – Berba- Hernandez

  143. Costas says:

    Morning smartalex, matt, Rai, dela and all the rest. Remember, lets just enjoy the occasion out there. It’s a must win for them, not us. We have bigger fish to fry. ;)

    Predicted lineup:

    Kuszczak – O’Shea, Vidic, Smalling, Evra – Valencia, Carrick, Scholes, Anderson, Nani – Berbatov

  144. dela says:

    Morning Costas. It isn’t a must-win by any stretch, but it has been ages since we won the FA and I really hope we win it this time around. Plus the thought of the Bitters making it to a cup final makes me want to throw up.

  145. mattbw7 says:

    Fans all round the world eh Smartalex. Hope you get a good connection.

  146. veek says:

    comparing city to united is like comparing george w bush to the bush that… women have down there.

  147. veek says:

    predicted lineup

    VDS-Rafa, Rio,Vidic, Evra-Valencia, Carrick, Scholes, Nani, Berbarito

    Bench: PIG, Giggs, Fabio, Owen, Ando, Smalling, and someone else to make up the numbers, probably Evans.

  148. smartalex says:

    Thanks mattbw7! You have my proxy at the game. Love the day entirely, the lads and Sir Alex will take care of the rest! Try get some footage on your phone of sad blues and happy reds, we can ask RyanDunny to make a gif or video for RoM.

  149. Collyhurst Red says:

    Morning all

    Setting off in an hour, can’t wait!
    My youngest son’s first trip to Wembley and his older brother is a bit pissed off, but he’s been before!

    (Apologies to those not able to get tickets)

    No nerves yet either!

  150. United4eva says:

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/907499/sir-alex-ferguson:-javvier-hernandez-sidelined-dimitar-berbatov?cc=5739

    The broad smile, the love of the big stage, the instant impact, the almost telepathic understanding with his new strike partner. You could almost be talking about Dwight Yorke displacing Teddy Sheringham but actually its Chicharito replacing Berba you got in mind. You almost feel like its time to party like its 1999…

  151. byron1970 says:

    Morning all, here’s my team prediction. Not the team I’d like to see but I just have a strong feeling that Sir Alex is going to make more changes than we’re expecting. I know it’s a much bigger match than when we played Everton in 2009 but I can’t help remember how shocked we all were at his team selection on that occasion.

    Kuszczak

    O’Shea Vidic Smalling Fabio

    Nani Gibson Anderson Scholes Park

    Berbatov

    I think maybe there might even be a sneaky start for Michael Owen. Either way I think we’ll win, City don’t have the big game mentality to beat us on days like this. United forever!!!!!

  152. Warwick says:

    Have just seen the pic of city squad on way to Wembley – leaving from STOCKPORT station!!

  153. indiandevil says:

    I am getting all nervy now, bricking it, C’mon you Reds! :)

    guys here’s something on the Derby! :

    http://www.thehardtackle.com/index.php/the-manchester-derby-love-will-tear-us-apart/

  154. kiko says:

    PFA Player of the Year 11 times? Mark Hughes 2 + Eric Cantona + Roy Keane + Teddy Sheringham + Ruud van Nistelrooy + Cristiano Ronaldo 2 + Ryan Giggs + Wayne Rooney = 10 LOOOOOOOL

  155. Mashenk says:

    You forgot Gary Pallister in the PFA Players’ Player of the year award to make it 11 for United.

  156. Alex says:

    interesting fact:

    you were outplayed today, and deserved to lose.

  157. Tom Addison says:

    Thanks for the facts and figures mate, shall be using them in many a pub argument for years to come!

  158. kelechi says:

    apparently when city won laurels united only had attendance to show for failure.lol

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