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STATS: De Gea vs Hart
February 12, 2013 40 Comments
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but who gets the most criticism from the media when he makes a mistake?right,the Man Utd player.
Haha should send that to all them papers who’s been criticising David
De Gea >>>> Hart for me.
Actually surprised at what a shocker Hart is having this season, the lad actually seems to have bottled it. I blame England hype personally.
Hart……..DeGea
1.7…………3.8…………Saves per game
28…………..37…………Saves inside box
16…………..31…………Saves on Long shots
65%……….77%……….Ratio: Saves to shot
DeGea is having to deal with a lot more shots than does Hart because of our injuries and unsettled defence. In that context, he has done very very well.
Yeah but don’t let facts get in the way of an honest media agenda.
Like to see one that says ‘balls caught from crosses’. It’s the only thing that infuriates me about De Gea is the desire to punch a ball when catching in a distinct possiblity.
Hart is a decent keeper no doubt about it but another English player who believed all of the hype about himself and who is know crumbling under the strain of his own self-perception. He’s made a meal of more than a few England goals too and one of these days it’ll all come crumbling down around him when the media tear him a new one after one fuck up too many.
haha well said costas. maybe the intense media scrutiny that comes with being our no. 1 has helped ddg mature, or has simply just forced him to man up. regardless, i think he is becoming one hell of a keeper.
why spend 15m on begovic when ddg is only starting to fulfill his potential?
Someone twit these to Rednev….. he needs to intepret the stares that Hart was getting when he bottled a tame shot at goal.
De gea have a long way to go….hart vs gea..,gea is a wonderful shot stopper,i love im
bayoRed,
Had you considered that the reason the Citeh defenders were staring at Hart was cos they did actually fancy him?!
The most significant stat here is that De Gea is forced to make more than twice as many saves as Hart.
Defend like that against Real Madrid and we are toast.
Media are a bunch of idiots who listens them ,,,,,,
In david we trust GGMU !!!!!!
Spot on about media hype……
Wonder how old Joe will cope when England Journos give him a moniker like James had.
Calamity Hart ! (anyone?)
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Broken Hart ?! That’s more like it! HA
If hart is best GK in the world, what makes DDG then? Better than the best?
I’m quite shocked about passing accuracy stats
Otherwise they’re spot on
In de gea we trust,mi young best stopper in d world.
Fuck Cesar!?..De Gea is better than him
I don’t like De Gea. I think he’s a massive liability. He’s had a better season than Hart but that’s not saying much, and I’d much rather have Hart in goal tomorrow than De Gea. My main issue with De Gea is that he tends to assume that he can’t reach many shots and as a result just stands there looking like a lemon and it gets on my nerves. It also annoys me that people keep saying he’s a good ‘shot stopper’. What does that mean? What keeper isn’t a good shot stopper? This alone isn’t enough reason to keep him on, and it isn’t necessarily even true. He often deliberately makes saves look dramatic as far as I can tell, and I’ve watched many shots that he has failed to stop during his brief time at the club. I was really enthusiastic about him when he came, but I think he needs a loan in Germany or the Championship or something before returning to challenge Begovic for the number one spot. Sorry to disappoint you but he’s not flawless by any stretch, and the media pick up on how much of a weak link he looks.
I honestly believe that the Ibrahimovic goal in the SWE v ENG game totally rattled Hart. He isn’t really 100% to blame, but he WAS the keeper and it WAS his attempted header clearance.
Oliver:
begovic over de gea? LOL! Yeah right!
errors that lead to goals? that stats wrong for DDG , not sure how much i trust that, considering it’s subjective
United Traveling Squad:
De Gea, Lindegaard; Büttner, Evans, Evra, Ferdinand, Jones, Rafael, Smalling, Vidic; Anderson, Carrick, Cleverley, Giggs, Nani, Valencia, Young; Hernandez, Kagawa, Rooney, van Persie, Welbeck
via Nick Coppack
TheCANTONA: Yep, I’d take Begovic’s consistent good performances over De Gea’s uncertainty any day. Fed up of reading the word ‘shot-stopper’ next to De Gea’s name. It is pointless, all keepers are good shot stoppers. It’s almost as regular as Giggs and the word evergreen, which doesn’t even frickin’ make sense.
I agree with AK47, stats can be very misleading sometimes. De Gea’s flap that lost two vital points for us the other day didn’t count, for example.
domunited says:
“I honestly believe that the Ibrahimovic goal in the SWE v ENG game totally rattled Hart. ”
Or the Pirlo chip. That must’ve taken him down a level. But, to be honest, he’s a good keeper but wildly overrated because England have been desperate for a good keeper for a while. But we’d all do well to remember it isn’t just the media – Rooney himself tweeted that Hart is the best in the world during the Borussia Dortmund game. It boggles the mind that anyone in the game could think he was better than Buffon or Neuer, but there you go.
“Fed up of reading the word ‘shot-stopper’ next to De Gea’s name. It is pointless, all keepers are good shot stoppers.”
TBF, that’s just because they don’t know what else to say. I’ve seen Casillas and Valdes get called that quite often but they’re both better than that. It’s more suited to Given or Huelelho Gomes – shot stopping is all they excel at. I don’t think they can see what else guys like De Gea or Casillas bring.
I heard Stewart Robson on ESPN the other week saying Michael Carrick can’t defend and is a porr defensive player, presumably because he doesn’t lunge in o tackles like Cattermole or Tiote. Nobody knows anything.
@olivermills6
Great shot stopper means that De Gea can pull of saves most of the keepers only dream about. For example: in the same Totenham game you mention he lost us 2 points… he basically pulled a world class save after that shot deflected of Ferdinand…
The thing about him is unlike Friedel or Given who have good games against us, and then proceed to be utter shite in against the other top teams in PL… De Gea pulls these saves day in and day out… he is incredibly consistent with his shot stopping.
His aerial ability is questionable though… but still, over the past year it has improved tremendously.. when he first arrived he would never come of his line, now he occasionaly catches the ball and the tends to punch it
Me thinks SAF knew De Gea’s weak points and he still bought him. So I say as long as the guy plays for us, let’s get behind him.
I mean imagine if your name would appear in every newspaper every time you do something wrond. To top it off, you get stick from your own fans. That’s just nuts.
I have said for time that toff cunt Hart is over rated beyond belief.
Actually, the passing accuracy does not show the true picture I suppose. De Gea constantly makes long passes, especially to our right wing position, whilst Hart perhaps made more short passes?
Anyway, I do believe DDG has made more than one mistake leading to goals this season, but that is besides the point. Only the media believes Hart is the best keeper in the world, like they do with Wilshere. Not our problem, big them up all they wamt. We know who does the job better
I got faith in DeGea.
Marq says:
“Only the media believes Hart is the best keeper in the world, like they do with Wilshere.”
Class one.
Anyway, even though I think DDG right now is nowhere near what a United GK is supposed to be, I would love to keep my faith in him because he has the potential, and his growth in these 2 or 3 games recently was a huge leap.
i always believe in de gea.what most important is to let de gea know that the fan, manager & teammates believe n trust him. what man utd lost from schemeicel n van der sar is time but with de gea, man utd got 10+years. all the way for treble
p/s: still wondering if beckham is man utd fan. scenario: when kaka want to leave ac milan he suggested madrid, train with arsenal n got his son trial with chelsea
Zalee- Becks will always be a United fan mate.
Spain’s No. 4 outperforming England’s No. 1
De gea gets critisied to much and he is a fantastic young keeper
I think those stats are very misleading, I agree that De Gea comes under a lot of unfair criticism, but all those stats posted by scott proved to me is that United allowed more shots on target than United…in other words De Gea has been more exposed than that fag Hart.
***than City
People are calling for begovic, I want u all to know that some players are best @ mid table club and fumble @ highest level pressure(foster torres). Pls let DDG b, he is potential world best
No surprises there then… De Gea IS a better goalkeeper than Hart.
Thanks for the starts Scott. but men, let’s not get carried away. The boy needs to improve a lot especially when it comes to punching balls and coming out to make clearances. Hart has been mediocre and comparing David to him is like appreciating weakness. David is talented, but he needs to be better and soon, forget comparisons I just want him to be his own man, the UTD no. 1. as for errors that lead to goals,
@ak47
I suspect the Error that leads to goals stat means obvious mistakes that are only the keepers fault and are clear cut.
For example some of the blame he received for some goals where he was deemed by some to not have pushed it wide enough can be debatable as they were difficult saves which he may not have had the luxury of placing the ball into the idea place. Or for example the goal earlier in the season with the mix up with Vidic is 50/50 about who should shoulder the blame.
@olivermills6
Well done, you’ve either just proved you know nothing about football, or that you’re a troll trying to get a response. You clearly can’t be a Manchester United fan with crap like that…