I do like looking at statistics, so maybe you do too. With Michael Owen wanting emphasis to be put on his performances as well as the goals he scored, I thought it would be interesting to see how Owen compares to the top strikers in the league.
These stats are never going to give you like for like because Owen is our third choice striker therefore gets fewer opportunities but they’re interesting enough to look at.
Fernando Torres (£25m)
Starts: 11
Minutes: 938
Goals: 9
Scoring rate: 1 goal per 104 minutes
Didier Drogba (£24m)
Starts: 10
Minutes: 875
Goals: 8
Scoring rate: 1 goal per 109 minutes
Darren Bent (£16.5m)
Starts: 10
Minutes: 882
Goals: 8
Scoring rate: 1 goal per 110 minutes
Michael Owen (Free)
Starts: 5
Minutes: 420
Goals: 3
Scoring rate: 1 goal per 140 minutes
Wayne Rooney (£27m)
Starts: 11
Minutes: 935
Goals: 6
Scoring rate: 1 goal per 156 minutes
Gabriel Agbonlahor (Free)
Starts: 11
Minutes: 1050
Goals: 6
Scoring rate: 1 goal per 175 minutes
Emmanuel Adebayor (£25m)
Starts: 8
Minutes: 700
Goals: 4
Scoring rate: 1 goal per 175 minutes
Robin van Persie (£2.75m)
Starts: 13
Minutes: 1125
Goals: 6
Scoring rate: 1 goal per 188 minutes
Carlos Tevez (£47m)
Starts: 9
Minutes: 812
Goals: 3
Scoring rate: 1 goal per 271 minutes
Nicholas Anelka (£15m)
Starts: 11
Minutes: 992
Goals: 3
Scoring rate: 1 goal per 331 minutes
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That’s a stat I was not expecting.
micheal owen
running a muck and whipping his ass with 1 goal per 271 minute man tevez..
how about stats on how much each one of those goals scored by the strikers cost a team
Anybody has this stat on Rooney?
Very interesting I would have thought that Anelka and VAn Persie would have better scoring rates.
To show how meaningless this particularly meaningless this stat is, compare with Messrs Rooney and Berbatov.
Owen is almost certainly scoring in fewer minutes than them. Maybe he should be first choice?
start him saturday, get good ball into him and he could be a serious striker for us, what about berbatov, he is a fantastic footballer but he has to start getting a couple more goals,
RVP has a great assist play though, as does Rooney. Both are on levels than Owen could only dream of.
owens had 5 starts? against who??
owen > van rapist
Lil mickey is double as good as argie midget!!
Thats 25million down the drain drain drain
Michael Owen is an absolute gain gain gain!!!
thx SCOT ,please keep this stats updated ,maybe in the midseason he would befirst
I have always marvelled at how the stat of “goals per starts”, is used. Stats can always be manipulated to suit whatever situation you want. The reason I don’t particularly like the “goals per starts” stat is that, it assumes that the striker has scored all the goals whenever he has started a match. So in this case, the stat favours Michael Owen. But if you think about it, all his goals haven’t come when he has actually started matches. I’m sure he scored some of those 3 goals as a substitute which means the goals he actually scored in matches started are actually less. You catch my drift.
Berba and Owen up top this weekend to make sure Rooney’s fit for Chav$ki? I say go for it.
No surprise to see Torres on top. If you include his assist too and look at overall creative contribution, it works out at 1 goal scored/created every 93 minutes.
Owen’s stats don’t surprise me – he is and always has been a top goalscorer, and if he’s fit, he will regularly score goals for Man U…which is why Liverpool should’ve snapped him in the summer. he would’ve been a great backup for Torres.
wazza that makes owen worth 50million
This is weird, I was looking at these stats this morning – admittedly they were league only. One thing worth pointing out is that Drogba also has 7 assists to his name. I don’t like the guy but he’s been an absolute beast this season.
As interesting as they are they don’t mean an awful lot in the end – Gallas and Vermaelen both have better scoring records than Berbatov.
It’d be interesting to see Berba’s stats.
Mystikal Gooner – there is no “goals per start” stats here, rather goals per minutes on the pitch. I’ve simply included how many games are from the start to give a different perspective and you can choose what to take from that.
Before he played 90 minutes yesterday and scored, he had 2 goals, hence 1 goal every 165 minutes going by your stats.
Owen has become 20% better as a striker overnight!
Magic.
Owen still remain one of the first three highest goal scorer in the in the league. for me, I think Micheal is too old to be compared with van persie and the likes.
@Don that is why i asked Rooney’s stat. Because it hurts me very much to watch the gulf between him and Torres. Seems like Rooney has been at that same level for 2 years.. I am hoping the stats for Rooney can console me..
We really really, really need Rooney to step up. More than anyone else.
i think we can all sum it up by saying that UNITED were smart enough to get Owen free of charge, he has stepped in and contributed very well scoring key goals like the one against City.
good influence on the younger strikers like wellbeck and macheda.
seems to get himself in scoring positions and is a pretty damn smart player.
and……he is better to look at than scarface tevez….
I like the price tag on Tevez! I have to say that i am becoming more and more impressed with Michael. He was one of the few that stood out at Anfield and i loved how he took his goal yesterday. And i also loved the chant: Michael Owen is a red, he hates scousers!
Imagine Drogba with Torres. Jesus.
I think RVP would work well with Rooney. His vision and passing are fantastic. Likes to play up high. and he’s a Dutchman. And we know how well the Dutch work for United!!!
@cantona7 – Roo’s stats have been up there all along.
I tot Bent’s price was 10million, or I’m I missing a trick here? i think we should be resting Roo once in a while and since it seems he scores in burst, how abt him turning on for the reserves when he’s on his dry patch?
Tevez 47m? did I slept over something?
@Always be closing LOL thanks. But that just hurts me more…
@Chep no you are not. Do you need a beachball to kick now?
just image if he’d have bagged half the chances he’s been gettin. Thinkin burnley especially.
Apples and Oranges… anyone can get data from anywhere and massage it enough to make anyone look good or bad…. I dont think that is conclusive enough and Michael Owen has yet to impress me especially lately…. He is in an environment such as MUFC he should shine or fail…. so far I am not convinced of him doing either…perhaps treading water…. Not to be unfair to him he has some wonderfull moments, but its not a sport you rest on your Laurels unless your retiring….
hmm gd job scott! but stats like this are pretty pointless, because you fail to look at who owen played against and etc. obviously he normally played against weaker or tired opponents thus the stats will favour him. But at the same time one can argue that he hasn’t been given enuff playing time to be at 100%
Good job Scott, like the stats.
BUT
“Stats are like Bikinis, Tells you a lot but shows nothing!”- that’s for most of the players, because Rooney almost every game plays his heart out even when he doesnt scores… Just like Berbatov vs Wolfsburg best player but nothing shows…
He did spurn some chances, but I’m confident that give him an extended run and even his already good goals per minute ratio will improve substantially.Tevez had double Owen’s time on the pitch but still could not manage more goals than him pfffffft
@onemanunited.wordpress.com Robbie Savage also plays his heart out every game, so does Kevin Davies for Bolton. The point is, you have to know how to play first, before you can change the game. Heart alone cant change the game, althought it can help you change it.
Owen was very good against Liverpool in the few minutes he came on. Even as a Liverpool fan, I must admit, Carragher was lucky to not be sent off. That, and setting up Valencia for a shot at the crossbar for the few minutes he was on. Good stuff from him.
Always kind of fun playing with statistics even though it can be deceiving sometimes. Owen is doing well and he’ll only get better the more he plays.
what is funny is not long ago people were saying what a talent carlos tevez is now when many look back he is not has good as people thought he was. owens problem is its hard to start him games when he uts very possible for him to get injured.
RedDeviled Egg
RVP is one of the most overated strikers, I would say put rooney and torres upfront and that pair would be dynamite because rooney goes deep and torres goes central the perfect match andit would be even better than ronaldo and rooney patnership.
What is it with this bloke? On the numerous occasions I’ve seen him over the past four years he looks like he’s carrying a sack of coal on his back, misses more one-on-ones than Ade Akinbiyi, and contributes fuck all outside of the box.
I think a concerted run of games will sharpen Owen up. He already has more Premiership goals to his name than Welbeck, Guiseppe Rossi, Henrik Larrson, and the same as Dion Dublin and Macheda!!!
cantona7 – It hurts you to see the gulf between Rooney and Torres? I would rather have Wazza than the fucking ladyboy mate. Offers so much more. Am quite surprised actually by the amount of people on Rooneys back. He was fucking outstanding till his injury. He will be back again . Starting on Saturday.
Owens movement is fucking outstanding, better than anyone at Old Trafford and the best in years. You can only really appreciate it when you are at the game. He is constantly working the backline looking for space. Only 29 still. I really do think he can have a great few seasons at United and bag a ton of goals given the chance.
Chris – Bitter?
Also those that think he is slow now and lost alot of pace, think again. Getting sharper and sharper by the minute. His goal ratio pisses on the likes of Villa yet people would like United to pay 30 or 40 million for him?
cuntetevez got 3 goals and he cost 47million. thank goodness we did’nt sing him up like as many fans on the final home of last season. my gosh i could’nt even make a single word he was saying due to the noise. owen>cuntevez
that argie mercenary tbh was a trier but lacked the technique berba had and ran like a headless chicken. surprisingly enough he still does that for the bitters, some people just don’t learn worst thing is that they have enough players to do that but yet he continues he must be clueless beyond not understanding english. owen is class and his goal yesterday against barnsley was world class.
i think the only reason why ladyboy has more goals than any other striker in the league is bcos the dippers rely on him too much and there is no other goalscorer in their squad apart from him and saint stevie of me.
HARGREAVES’ CURLY HAIR
thats garbage. torres is a far more prolific goalscorer than rooney, who torres is propably the worlds best striker.
theres only one Keano,
I think any team would be better with Torres is in their lineup. He’s outstanding. And to think we paid 5 mil more for Berba than Pool got Torres
I don’t agree with you that RVP is overrated. He supplies so many assists for goals. His set piece kicks are ridiculous too. I’d take him over Berba/Owen any day
HARGREAVES CURLY HAIR – Got to say I disagree about Torres mate. The reason he gets goals is because he is a top striker. Fucking hate the cunt though and would much rather have rooney. Unfortunately some people on here seem to prefer the ladyboy to Wazza. Give him a week and he will have another groin strain and be out for 6 games. Fucking ponce.
We may have missed out on the ladyboy but shit happens. Give Danny or Kiko a couple more years and we could have a world class player or two on our hands. Fuck Torres he plays for the dippers and thats that. We never got Shearer but got Ole instead and that didn’t pan out too bad.
RedDeviled Egg
I would take torres over berbatov any day of the week because he is far better overall. torres is a better striker than rooney but I would rather rooney.
Statistics out of context mean absolutely nothing. You can’t really count goals against teams like Barnsley if you want to judge a top class player.
With that said, Owen is brilliant and I would like to see him in the starting eleven prior to either Berbatov or Rooney.
Sorry to go off topic but if I hear the FSW say “Quaaaallity” one more time I will put my foot through the fucking telly.
Also is it me or does Jay Spearing look like a fat spud chav that should be out selling drugs and robbing? Horrible scouse cunt.
King Eric
fair play mate.i’d rather rooney than that ladyboy. i think ladyboy is more effective in terms of goals and creating something out of nothing but i’d rather rooney bcos he gives more than ladyboy in terms of lifting the morale of the team if we we’re losing and need to win a game ladyboy does’nt provide you with none of that you should see that when he gets closed down by top class defenders he acts petulant and speaks spanish as a way of frustration. there are so many times when he gets frustated and can do nothing to help the dippers. wazza needs a few more years and he’ll be a world beater which i think he is well on his way problem is he is in electrifying form in patches and hopes he gets over that another problem is he gets injured by playing meaningless games for ingerlund and this is why he looks ineffective in games coming from injury due to rustiness.Rooney for Balon D’ Or and world player of the year 2010!:-)
Cue the Arsenal “wonderkids” wankfest! Really hope if they do get through our young uns meet them and put them to the fucking sword. “pretty” and “twinkle toe” football it may be but it don’t win you any trophies you cockney cunts. Could have sworn it was our kids that won it last season! Funny thing is though the dippers are getting torn apart.
HARGREAVES – Yeah talking of the nancy boy did you see him crying , actually crying at Anfield with Dirk Kuyt having to give him a cuddle? Can just see Rooney doing that!
HARGREAVES’ CURLY HAIR
torres is the better player but rooney I would rather because he will be here until he retires, do not be suprised if torres will one day want to return to spain to play for barcelona. its the same with keane scholes giggs irwin butt solkjaer there were players in their postiton who were more glamerous and maybe better but we had the gems that would give us everything and spend the remainder of their career here, for me my worry is if obertin makes it will he want a transfer soon like ronaldo.
Having players that stay at a club for life happens everywhere. Not just United. Get over yourselves. Torres is wicked. I would take him as a central striker over Rooney for sure.
Crying over getting beat by world class defence??? Probably why Vidic has ended with a red card the last 3 times he’s played against him. Torres destroys everyone. He’s fast, strong on the ball, and knows how to score.
You want to talk about lifting a teams morale? How about scoring out of nothing.
rooney’s got to bring it every game. This scoring in patches bullshit is not good. He doesn’t show up in some games. I know he works his ass off every game but at the end of the day there’s got to be some product to show for it. Namely, goals and wins.
quite interesting, it would be nice to see a goals and assists combination stat.. wow Berbatov does not even feature on the list, interesting, I wonder if he’s on a assists list, probably not either.
I guess the top 2 is just about right, but it is also true that their teams are overly reliant on them
So the gooners beat the dippers 2-1. I have got to say, arsenal’s reserves were brilliant, totally destroyed them.
scousers only real chance of a trophey gone..ahh well well just have to win it again tho..arsenal united and chelsea all in the 1/4 draw.. id take any of them at home especially
When is the draw for the next round?
@jandsdad- think its saturday, sky sports.
@ redrick
ta for that
“We really really, really need Rooney to step up. More than anyone else.”
I don’t think he can. In fact I don’t think he’ll get any better than he is now. His game hasn’t improved in the last3 years. As a striker he’ll never be any better than so so. As a MF general? Probably not. As a winger? No.
So the problem for Fergie is where does he play him to get the best out of him. After 5 years at OT this shouldn’t be a problem. Could Rooney perform better with a decent striker alongside him? He may or may not. However I expect Fergie to be in the market in the summer for a proven hit-man.
u know quite a few of u should go fuck urselves u scouse loving bastards! I’d rather we play with ten men than that cunt torres up front. Is he good, who gives a fuck? We are united.
shak spot on
edwins 39 today..legend
Stop lying to yourselves man,that stats is not accurate at all,as i believe that even if he plays the same time that drogba,torres did,he won’t be scoring as much goals as them and will end up having a sucky minutes per goal ratio that will fall very behind.
Shak – Fuckin bang on mate. Rather the ladyboy than fuckin Rooney? Not a fucking chance.
Red Deviled Egg – You could try getting behind your players pal for once.
Red Deviled Egg – “namely goals and wins”. Just remind me how many trophies the ladyboy has won? You call yourself a United fan? You did fucking mean it when you said Macheda makes Rooney look a “chump”.
Sorry but still can’t get over the fact that United “fans” would rather ladyboy in their team than Rooney. Rooney IS United.
Oh and another thing RDE. What the fuck has the ladyboy got to do with Vidic’s red cards? He wasn’t even playing at anfield last season. The second one was for pulling Stevie Me back and thirdly for tickling Kuyt on Sunday. .
I will not choose Rooney over Torres if Sir Alex doesn’t. I am just wishing for Rooney to be better than Torres, and i will back him up for that all the time because i know he has the potential to be the best in the world. If there is a player with potential to become better than even the likes of Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldinho, then Rooney has the best chance to do that. That is how i rate Rooney.
Rooney is a more complete player than Torres now, but i dont want him to be just that. I want Rooney to be the best STRIKER in the world, and only after that, the best all-round player in the world.
But Rooney is still young. I will be patient for him. As long as Sir Alex believe in him, i will.
hope owen starts alongside Rooney against Blackburn; fergie favours berba too much.
I never thought I’d see the day Owen would play for us, but now that he’s here I support him and keep my fingers crossed that his dodgy ankles / hamstring hold up. His scoring record has always been great, even at Real Madrid when they used him as a bit-part substitute which i thought was rather unfair.
I have no doubt that Capello will bring Owen to the World Cup if he stays fit and keeps improving his form. Its simply too irresistible a proposition to leave him at home. A fit and confident Owen scores goals in any team he walks into – a true poacher.
Owen to score the winner against Liverpool at OT!
Shak — best post I’ve seen in a while
King Eric, please do not question my integrity as a fan. I’m objective in my opinions. If you can’t see Torres as be a quality player that you’d want on your team, then you my friend should not be commenting on anything to do with football.
You’ll have seen on another post that I made earlier in the day that brought up how serious people like you take this blog. haha have a laugh mate. I was kidding about Macheda. I love Rooney. I really think he needs a stronger partner that compliments his skills more.
Go fuck yourself with your attitude man. I’m not a scouser fan. I’m a fan of United. AND Football. I enjoy watching top players do things with the ball that I can only dream of doing. Them being in a different shirt doesn’t take away from the beauty of the game.
You can go back to hanging out with all of your “Serious United Fans” that trashed everything at Barnsley yesterday. I’m sure you respect them more than someone with a knowledable and open opinion on football.
Arsenal only played 9 matches in the league so what the hell are these 13 matches Robin van Persie started? Even he didn’t play in the C. Cup…
@RedDeviled Egg and King Eric
please stop it guys. the last thing i want to read is 2 united fans having a go at each other.Torres is the best striker in the premier League.Yes.i agree with that.Rooney is more of a team player and will do everything and play anywhere for the team.He gives in 100% for the team.As a striker though Torres is better at the moment but Rooney’s passion and commitment is what all the United fans love and that is what makes him special.Of course anyone would want to have Torres in their side.Ok he plays for the dippers but given an option i am sure United fans wont mind having Torres.Look at Owen’s example.Berbatov is the perfect partner.IMO Berba is the best technically equipped striker in the league.They just have to sort it on the training ground and develop a better understanding with each other.
King Eric. I know why you got so upset mate.You are a hardcore supporter and always backing the team irrespective of the results and performances.But when we talk about such issues i guess its better to think being a neutral supporter than a United fan.Sometimes you just have to give credit and Torres is better at the moment.Rooney has to score more consistently and in big games to prove he is world class otherwise he will always remain a player who had potential to be a world class player throughout his career but will never be one.
RedDeviled Egg .Trophies do matter mate.For all his class Torres does not have anything to show for it.Now a days players and managers are judged on basis of trophies.
Needs to take into account assists as well as the fact that coming on at the end of the game, when defences are tired and football more free flowing. Benched strikers like Owen and even Bendtner last year are always going to have high goal to minute ratios.
Torres= Owen without the diving
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNYpz-oQ1ao&
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Hunt-For-Football-Hooligan-Who-Bit-Off-Ear-During-Manchester-Uniteds-Champions-League-Final/Article/200910415421888?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15421888_Hunt_For_Football_Hooligan_Who_Bit_Off_Ear_During_Manchester_Uniteds_Champions_League_Final
hope this cunt gets caught!!! its wankers like him that are giving our club a bad name…. we will soon be classed at the same level as the dipper scum if fuckers like this keep going… what a waste of a ticket!!!
@GHTT surely you meant Owen = Torres without the diving?
I ‘m not sure who has this stat or perhaps Scott can arrange it, but it would be interesting to know how much money Alex Ferguson spent before he actually won the premier league title(1st division originally).
Obviously what sparked my interest in this is the large sum of money that FSW has spent on 70 odd players since he arrived at livershit…
Owen deserves to start.. enough said
Red Devilled Egg – Fuck you, you cunt. Telling me to fuck off. Why would I prefer the “fans” who wrecked the snack bar? You don’t even know me. The behaviour was a disgrace and uncalled for as I said on that particular thread. Every comment you make seems to be a dig at United players. I do rate Torres as a player but he is tarnished by wearing the dippers shirt and I would never want to see him at United. He is a fucking diving cheating ponce as witnessed at Anfield on Sunday and give him three weeks and he will be out for six games with a broken nail. I just hate him and that probably does cloud my judgement of him. I hate the way he looks, I hate the way he cheats and I hate the way he is always playing with his fucking alice band.
If you are on here to wind people up as you have kind of stated then I think that in itself is rather pathetic. People like me do take this blog very seriously and I do not think there is anything wrong with that. Why put on a ridiculous comment about Macheda just to get a rise?
For what its worth however I do apologise for questioning wether you are a United fan.
Aig – Another typically well balanced post from you mate. Fair play.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1223678/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-lost-spot-Liverpool-public-enemy-No-1-referees-lets-remember—STILL-THE-GREATEST.html
Great read.
Long John O shea – Fucking hell that is a disgrace and like you say a waste of a ticket. We still have along way to go though before we can be classed as disgusting as the dippers. Biting a fellow fans ear off is horrendous but not quite as bad as killing 39 at Heysel.
Fze123 – Read that earlier, a great read.
Apparently, real madrid are lining up FSW as their next manager after giving Pellegrini 2 games to save his job. They’ve won one of their 5 last games. As much as I would love if he goes to manage real and win fuck all with the mercenaries, I have to say he is best suited at anfield. Who else is going to fuck up the dippers season and still not manage to prevent us from winning number 19.
King Eric.
Chill mate.I agree with you that the kiko comment was ridiculous and being United fans we should back our team rather than slag players when we lose a few games but as fans we also have the right to criticse the players. I hope it is constructive criticism. We cant slag players if we lose 1 game and win the next 10.maybe it is because at United you are expected to win every game.Of course realistically that is not possible and there will be few disappointments.It is how well you support your team at this time that matters more, not when we are winning everything.
King Eric, it’s very rare to find something positive and complimentary written about Fergie on in the Daily Mail isn’t it. The last couple of weeks all I have read on there is the same ABU crap concerning Fergie’s comments about refs.
Does anyone else find it ridiculous that Sir Alex is being punished for voicing an opinion that he thought the referee was unfit….are we not allowed opinions anymore? However, when Hughes basically came out and said the referee had cheated as he had played too many added minutes nobody bats an eye lid?? Ok, Hughes didn’t say the word cheated, but every comment out of his mouth after that mach was an opinion about the referee losing them that game! Ridiculous!
@mikekelly12
Trying to grab attention at Fergies expence.They know that if they have ago at anyone else hardly anyone will bother to read it or notice it.Just because its Fergie they get a good chance to slag him.most of these columnists and FA guys are twats
Mark hughes=cunt.
I know mate, it’s just annoying that they get swept under the carpet. It’s completely blinkered. Look at the Adebayor celebration….a whole different scenario I know, but the guy stamps on a players head and almost starts a riot. 3 game ban and a fine which amounts to about a days work! Fergie voices an opinion that he thinks a referee is unfit…. liklihood is a 3 game ban! Now you tell me which is worse?!
@mikekelly12
dont even mention greedybayor.Total cunt he is.and that stamp on RVP was delibrate.should have got an even bigger ban.
Well managers should be given a right to express their opinion.so why punish them if they do.And although stats prove wiley wasnt that unfit he stillwas taking a break whenever he wanted and him telling wayne rooney to have rest was ridiculous.
Graham Poll said a few days back that number of refrees has reduced from 24 to 13 and thats why the number of games refrees are having to officiate is increasing and hence they are getting tired.So indirectly what Fergie said makes lot of sense,dosent it?
I know we are not as bad as them scumbags… but our name is being draged through the mud at the minute…
Good comments AIG, nice attempt to cool things down. It’s a shame when a bad defeat spins off into bad feeling between United supporters, and let’s get back on track guys. We’re all United here, and I disagree with mysef every other day as mush as with any of you, so let’s all just agree to disagree and get behind United. Roll on Saturday!
@ red deviled egg- u stupid cunt. Wat in my or king eric post said anything bout being involved or supporting wat happened at barnsley?? U fucking tit! If u want to discuss this further, I’ll c u before or after the game on sat.
I would love for Brisbane fan and AIG, to revisit this board and comment on there views of Wayne, as they did in this post! lol