Luis Suarez admitted to calling Patrice Evra a “negro” during an argument in last season’s game between Manchester United and Liverpool at Anfield. After kicking Evra in the knee, pinching him, and smacking him round the back of the head, Suarez wanted the FA to believe that he was calling Evra a “negro” in a friendly way, like he would call his black friends back in Uruguay. Obviously the FA didn’t believe his nonsense, given there was nothing at all friendly about any of the exchanges between Evra and Suarez that day, and he was banned for eight games
Speaking to Uruguayan TV about the race row, he blamed the FA’s decision to ban him on United controlling the politics of sport.
“Manchester United command the politics of sports in England. You have to accept, there’s no option.”
Man Utd News 24/7
Luis Suarez is the real victim here…..
Haha, The biggest mystery to me why Suarze cannot admit, some times, you can fail to communicate properly even with friendly word in derby game. Why he found so difficult to say “If you misunderstand me, I am sorry it is not my intention”. Instead of simple word, he choose to blame a lot of other stuffs.
He is very authoritative human being I think.
Idiot is still trying to justify this shit.
Always the victims – it’s never their fault is it ? classic delusional quote from Suarez – would you not just think it was time to move on if you were him ? idiot
I hope someone makes that cunt bite the curb and then stomps on his head
Luis is an idiot. He must just shut it up.
Knobshine!
What a KKKunt!!
Talk about engineering a move to Italy.Ther is more than meets the eye here.Deserting a sinking ship????Time will reveal.
‘Manchester United command the politics of the right to rape shit you cunt’
If we don’t sign Baines….we’re stuck with Evra,Brady and Evans as cover.
I doubt we have alternatives to Baines lined up.
So its either those 3 above or have 2 specialised left backs.
If that means us paying £16m for Baines…. So Be It.
Its better than nothing.
Yang – Your right his a cunt
Red Tash
Are you trying to tell us that the football club that is Liverpool is in decline? I was pretty sure this will be their year
This horrible cunt should be pulled to task for these comments implying the FA are in United’s pocket.
In the words of Vic Reeves, He wouldn’t let it lie.
Cedars
Pretty much me thinks.
I just hope jonjo shelvey’s cousin aka antiscouser does’nt see this thread.We’d never hear the end of it.
Puke. Vomit. Rinse. Repeat.
King Eric
Speaking of man crushes as you often do, picture this………..Kagawa through ball and Hernandez nets the winner, I would pass out!! ha ha ha Oh and if Jones is involved in the build up I think Balaji would have a heart attack !!!!
He just a shit freddie mercury
His comment doesn’t even make any sense,how the fuck has Utd got anything to do with the politics of sport?.What the fuck is wrong with him
I guess that’s why the FA favor us as much as they do.
wayne
The answer is simple mate, he has shit for brains
thats lfc for you ashamed of nothing offended by everything
Luis Suarez – YOU’LL NEVER WANK ALONE
good afternoon cedars king eric costas wayne jeet and other reds
can spmebody pls shut this bloody assholes mouth.
does anyone know how good is robbie brady . i have never seen him play
At what point do the FA take action over his continued comments his country’s media? His attacks on the FA must be close to bring the game into disrepute or do the FA approve of his media campaign?
ARUN
Afternoon pal……….King Eric seems to be the most informed on Brady, according to him Brady is more of a left sided winger but also a tough little cookie
off topic but about time
http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/world/story/us-attorney-michael-garcia-investigative-role-corruption-fifa-blatter-061712
stretfordend ole @ 13:50: “At what point do the FA take action over his continued comments his country’s media?”
Exactly – this isn’t the first time he’s complained about the laws surrounding his work environment. AND, it’s not just the FA who should discipline him; what about the ownership/manager at LiverPoo ? are they still going along with KlownKingKenny’s comments on this subject ?
Suarez and Tevez are just obsessed with United. Control the politics? The man is paranoid, delusional and just plain barking mad. Needs the men in white with strait jackets at the ready.
Suerez is a right nasty piece of work and it’s sickening that Liverpool stand by this player. Its only a matter of time before he snaps again. His club have no control over him. Even with the hand shake incident. He agreed with Liverpool that he would shake his hand and look what he did. We all know what he said and how it was meant and he got away with it. The worry thing is IF he did mean it the way he says then he would have been very apologetic and done everything possible to recify the misunderstanding. BUT NO he still has a serious problem??
Right back on, i have been sleeping rough for the last 8 hours to appreciate Bebe more. I am going to do the same for Suarez now I am going to find the goofiest cheating cunt i know and spend some time with him.
Buck toothed deluded cunt.
Giggs12
Shame on you mate, you street kid hater!! ha ha ha
Perhaps he is upset that jt wasn’t found guilty.Ooh wait!
Just had a choc ice does that make me racist?
Knock Knock
Whos there
Not Bebe he is homeless
The Suarez prick will come back to England and said he was ‘misquoted’. The FA can do a thing about it. I don’t know if Brendan Rogers thinks otherwise now that he is their manager.
‘The FA can’t do a thing about it’.
No edit button for typo, Scott?
Giggs12
Pissing my self mate
Manchester United command the politics and Alex Ferguson is the President of England!
Its never their fault. Their always the Victim.
Giggs12 @14.03
laughed so much I dropped my spliff in my cup of tea
Mancdub
Hahaha quality mate and apologies, dont want to come in between a brother and his green.
seems we do have some sort of alternative to Baines with Bryan Oviedo claiming our scouts have been tracking him and we’re one of 4 prem teams chasing his signature. He’s a natural left footed player who can also play on the wing as well as left back and he’s only 20.
FC Copenhagen fullback Bryan Oviedo is delighted with interest from Manchester United.
The 22-year-old Costa Rica international is flattered by the rumours.
He told Extra Deportes Canal 42: “For me, it is one of the best teams in the world.
“When the news came out, it was something I liked a lot and it gave me great motivation to carry on. For now, I’m waiting. If Manchester tell me they want to buy me and there are other clubs interested, obviously the first choice would be Manchester.”
So Rio should be hauled up for sod all (again) but Suarez has the green light to say what he likes when he likes? If Rooney said the same thing about Liverpool he’d be charged with something.
Still, it is funny seeing Newcastle potentially talk them out of 20 odd million.
A fool and his money.
just to wind up the Anti’s lol although some good points imo
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1260301-10-things-the-glazers-deserve-credit-for-at-manchester-united#/articles/1260301-10-things-the-glazers-deserve-credit-for-at-manchester-united
Hahah!!! What a muppet
I was still stuck in the other thread
I can’t believe I missed the first quarter of this
What a no brainer comments
Its really sums up his personality
Dear me!!!
The FA are in Uniteds pocket?
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Oi me. More like FA are in the pocket of LFC. Only explanation that Suarez is still in english football.
What an utter imbecile Suarez. Honestly, I gave up on this one long ago.
Liverpool and Suarez were made for each other. Funny thing that Fenway Sports Group tolerate such continued subordination from a clear racist who doesn’t have a clue. They must like John Terry’s work as well.
just when the world was going smooth,
cunts arrive, racist ones, one after the other..
United is the politics of sports eh?
just make the cunt read the bans on Sir Alex, Rio, Rooney, Evra etc etc..
dumb fucker..
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Evening reds around the world..or rather nip biters
Giggs12….I read it while taking my register with my form group!! HaHaHa…mate, the kids were wondering what the fuck I was pissing myself at!! Having said that, the knock knock might have been Bebe..he could have been knocking on offering to polish ya silver!!!
Anyway, if its bothering you that muck you goofy cunt! Fuck off back to Holland or do one to fucking Spain or Italy, you’ll find lots of different clubs that run politics over there that might suit your goofy gnasher cunt chops better!!
Exclusive: arsenal tell van persie that he will not be allowed to leave the club this season.
Good decision there, how can you let a team leave with the new season just around the corner???
He is exactly at the right addressee at Liverpoo, an Utter liar !!!
Rabbit teeth doesn’t remember when Liverpoo dictated the eighties during the tenure of Mrs T.
All he has to do is ask a certain Mr Glenn Hysen who he wanted to publish a little book about little things that happened at that time and he will have a very good answer !!!
I wish United did command everything in sport then we’d be winning everything every year without any doubt
Alas goofy gonzalez hasn’t got a clue about a clue so what do you expect from people who have no common sense or literally deciphering clues?
Eye is calmer again though flash and flame still there
Im going to be calm let it take its time if this is to be my suffering
19
Utd control the politics of sports in England….oh yeah thats why Rio got banned for 8 months and the lad from Shitty got fined!!
Utd control the politics of sports in England….oh yeah thats why Rooney got banned for swearing on TV when every other fucker does it week in week out!!
Do I need to go on!!
The fact he can’t say sorry and even accept he cant say that kind of shit in England is proof to me he is a racist. FACT.
Mike
Stop trying to fool folk on here, we all know you love United and hate city………..
Err, guess that makes you all right then!
MG!!
My good friend, great to hear your news mate, good to know the eye is coming along well……
Cedars
I do fucking hate city!!! I don’t hate them as much as I love United, but I fucking hate them! Chelsea are beginning to fuck me off this summer too!!
Mike
Glad you took the bate mate…………I fucking hate leeds almost and I mean almost as much as I love United …………..Chelsea are a piss take of a club
What a fucking mug. Stinks of Livershite conspiracy theorist crap.. thats what they blatantly told him.. what a sad bunch of cunts.
Saying that, I hope the FA ban TinyTears for more than 8 matches! Fairness would be the 8 match ban + 2 match ban to Rooney for swearing on TV + 1 match ban for being a wife shagging cunt = 11 match ban
espn soccernet says reports from brazil claim sao pulo have rejected a 38million euro aka 30 millon pund bid from united for moura
30 mil pound is really taking the piss…hence not true/smokescreen
MG,
glad you are back pal..hope you are in good health now..
and glad to get back the Neymar fanatic as well
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by the way,
16 member of the 22 man touring squad hadn’t even been born when Sir Alex took charge of Manchester United.
Fergie on Mandela: “I remember when he spoke in Monaco after we won the Treble, the hairs on the back of my neck were standing up”
… unless contract talks with Nani have broken down?
oh come on cedar’s …We all know Leeds are your second team…you dipshit…always talking them down….bet you wank off every night to old pictures of Don Revie…….
Scott the Red
I already asked you this morning, why the fuck have you banned Zibbie from here? No surprise that you did not respond………..I even doubt you even fucking read your own blog, you take us all for granted. Go ahead and ban my fucking ass from here you ungrateful waste…….With out us you have no blog
Fucking fuming here
Breaking: Sao Paulo reject second United bid:
Manchester United decided to open the safe to take Luke ‘s Sao Paulo. After offering € 33 million (U.S. $ 82.4 million) last week, a figure which was not accepted by President Juvenal Juvencio, the English club made a new offer: € 38 million (U.S. $ 96 million) to take the athlete after the dispute between the London Olympics. And just like at the first offer, the answer tricolor was the same: no.
http://globoesporte.globo.com/futebol/times/sao-paulo/noticia/2012/07/sao-paulo-recusa-nova-proposta-do-manchester-united-por-lucas.html
TonyBee
You know me so well darling, actually its Wilkinson that tickles my balls
Cedars – Hey, oh, eh! Whats all the shouting about fella?
Fletch
€38m is only about $46m where do these people bank?
Willie
I am pissed off with the fucking owner of this blog……..Why the fuck has he banned Zibbie? Asked him twice already but does not give a flying fuck
Maybe in the Caymen isles
Cedars …some one said that Zibbie had been hacked and that STR had blocked it temporarily….stop shouting ….you are giving me a fucking earache……
I for one think that Nani might get moved on this summer…..as you lot know…. i still have misgivings about him
Cedars – Not sure why Scott would ban him mate. I’m sure there’s a reason he can’t post atm.
Suarez is a proper bellend ENOUGH ABOUT HIM. I’m seeing reports claiming that we put down 30 million pounds for Moura and it was rejected. ARE U SERIOUS? we put down 30 million pounds for a 19 year old kid and yet Fergie SOMEHOW has not put down that amount for a legit midfielder like say hmmm MOUTINHO? Surely those reports cannot be real. If they are that means Fergie is fine with this midfield we have and I do not think that is possible. Hopefully we make a SENSIBLE signing if at all we are gonna make any more.
TonyBee
He was not hacked mate, he does make colourful non football comments at times, but for fucks sake he keeps this place alive during dead times……….
All I am asking for is a fucking explanation from the owner
Danny, If half of it is true, Lucas will be an exciting player. We will probably find out we were never in for him. But that’s another story.
mancdub Well, just quoting the story. Couple other brazilian rags have it as well. Some reports that the lads agent (Wagner Ribeiro) is a United fan, so we will see.
Cedars
Who said Zibbie has been banned?
He said a while back he couldn’t use the Zibbie username and started using Cubs. I think personally his comments the other night were a little off so maybe that’s the reason.
James
He posted on AOF saying he had been banned, that got me fuming……..We got multiple user ID people on here along with racist bigots allowed to post, yet someone who I think is funny as fuck gets banned……………
All I am after is a fucking explanation from the fucking owner
Lol what I find funny is that Sir Alex was banned because of implying the incompetence of referees, something which was there for ALL to see, but Suarex KEEPS getting away with implying the incompetence of the FA?
What’s up with that? For how long will the FA keep getting ridiculed by a racist bastard like Suarez?
Seen several lads banned over the years …… don’t recall ever getting an explanation.
This is ROM, Scott does as he likes and he is welcome to it in my opinion. . . . including making us post all day under a ridiculously distasteful topic heading.
Like the topic of this tread, all can be big enough to apologize and move on. Hoping for the second coming of Zibbie. Lad has alot to say and some of it is quality enough. Like Rangers, maybe there will be a Zib_NewCo ?
Right I will give this a rest for a while…………Still fuming though
That racist bastard should actually be punished again for his many repeated objections at the FA’s decision!
And actually Suaracist, i wish we controlled the FA…. Clearly he doesn’t know what he’s talking about, just wants to complain
Lebomanc
How have you been young girl? Easy on the bad language, not good for a girl your age…..Mind you its for Suarez so go ahead! ha ha ha
£30m offered for Lucas. Now I do agree with Samuel, it’s gotta be complete bollocks!!
Cedars
Hahaha, yup it’s for Suarez!
Am good, you?
If Zibbie was banned for off topic comments, we’d all banned too. That’s bollox imo.
Lebomanc
I am all good thanks………….How have you been my Lebanese RED loving young girl? Back in Dubai yet?
Willie
There is more to this, that is why I am asking STR for a fucking explanation
Sorry I said enough of this
I’ve got to agree with the comments on here, i just wish he would ‘man up’, admit he was in the wrong, then shut the fuck up. Personally i wish we would sell him and be done with it.
Even though a Sao Paulo director has confirmed the offer and rejection! I don’t want this clown and if we are in talks I’d end them right now! What does piss me off though is how our major transfers become protracted and complicated! I swear if this was Barca after him a €20m bid would have been accepted by now and he’d be pictured in their kit. Same applies with Chelsea!! I’m not one for throwing cash at players but this is EXACTLY where the Glazers have affected our ability to compete. Chelsea, City, Real, Barca would simply pay the price and bag the player. We’re probably trying to propose a 50p down payment with add ons based on the colour of the boots he’ll where, the smell of his piss and how many credit cards they’ll sell during the time he’s on the pitch!!!
smashley-LFC fan in peace
Mate at times I cannot even believe you are a Liverpool supporter! You remind me of me nephew who is a die hard scouse, yet he has a lot of common sense!! Bit similar to you!
Always love your posts here pal
Cedars
No not yet, just couple more days
You staying in Lebanon?
Mikekelly12 – its called haggling, and trying to get the best possible price. But why should united pay nearly 40 million pounds for a player that has done nothing in his career. Perhaps he will turn out to be one of the best players in the world, but we do not know that for sure. But I still state, that its beyond a joke that they want nearly 40 million for a player that vickery has said is huge risk
suarez is a disgrace to football and liverpool shold get rid rec he would fit in at shitty they seem obsessed wit buying numpties
Lebomanc
Yes my love, staying here in the land of the cedars!
Lebomanc
Yes my love, staying here in the land of the cedars!
How is everyone today.
Regretable this Suarez chap and his racist twottle. I have no doubt he says negro to people within his own country. The poor in south america (huge generalisation I know) are like the poor anywhere else in the world seem to have a huge disregard for people from other cultures deeming them a threat to their chances of breaking from poverty.
However in England there is relativly little poverty with very few really bad areas (atleast they recieve some sort of benefits to help them survive) and we have as far as we can stamped out racist jargon. Maybe Mr Suarez should realise that you adapt to the country youre guest in and abide by the rules of the land. Maybe with a good heart take what you’ve learned back with you and stop the obvious racism there.
You would have thought in the 21st century in proffessional sports and so many privalidged with so much money, wealth and admiration that it would tone down some people and let them learn the finer side to life.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Suarez gets a transfer out of Liverpool for this latest burst. The owner has come under some serious stick back in the states and has already fired countless members of staff at Liverpool for the poor handling of the whole affair.
What?
FIB
Oh don’t get me wrong, I said at the start of my post, fuck it right off! They’re taking the piss. I wouldn’t entertain them any longer. I am well aware of the haggling process, but with the likes of Barca, it never happens. I recall Sanchez price being banded around at £35m when City and ourselves were interested and he ended up at Barca for about £18m! I’d sooner use the money to pay Welbecks wages he’s asking for than spunk it all over a 19 year old winger who has already stated he doesn’t give a fuck where he plays and will bs manoeuvring a move to Spain before the inks dried on his contract!
Why are unintelligent buffoons out there still thinking shinji kagawa was bought to sell shirts?.
‘…based on the smell of his piss…’
You’re killing me man. Can’t stop laughing after reading that for the gazzillionth time. Quality!!
TonyBee
Nani is still a young lad. Alot of players have stages in their development and blow hot and cold over the years they play. He is a human and not a robot and whereas we all want him to be the go to man we just have to ride out the poor form. You never know come the beginning of the season he might be back to his best. It takes a young footballer time learn not to do too much and make the simple pass. Generally those that get that from the beginning only have the ability of the simple pass and dont ammount to much. He has too much skill to let some other team take it.
Cedars
Lucky!
Just finished watching this rio Ferdinand podcast, sometimes I forget he used to play for leeds
Forgot the link…
http://www.manutd.com/en/Tour2012Teaser/Tour2012News/2012/Jul/rio-ferdinand-in-red-voices-manchester-united-podcast.aspx
samuel – united WE stand
Why are UNINTELLIGENT buffoons out there still THINKING shinji kagawa was bought to sell shirts?
I think you answered yourself there
ON TOPIC.
Saurez hasn’t done anything wrong, you are all making something out of nothing.
“Manchester United command the politics of sports in England. You have to accept, there’s no option.”
In Uraguay this means.
‘ I love Manchester Utd and Patrice was 100% right to complain’
@mickkelly, ur right mate we could get baines and erickson for that money their taking the piss, I allways moan that our money is not being spent on big players but ill be really disapointed if we pay that money for an unproven 19 year old remember anderson looked world class in a lesser league than the epl.
If Carroll is worth 35 million it is pointless discussing value in the market. There is mo such thing as market value a player is only worth what the selling club is willing to sell for, and how much the buying club is willing to pay.
Happy birthday Jaap Stam…
@giggs12 well said the transfer market is crazy 35 mill for a fuck wit geordie donkey says it all
…. Big Issue, get ya big issue!!
Giggs12
True, and to think that park was sold for less than 5m is crazy!
Stam
3 seasons at United and won 6 trophies
City massive eh?
Goat.
Hey I hate Suarez that buck tooth cunt as much as the next guy. But your claim is a bit off mate. Since when is England NOT a racist place? It might not be as common as it used to be back in the day but I think that’s pretty much the case everywhere. Those who have racist thoughts and ideas tend to keep them to themselves more solely because of how society will shun them. But given the right situation (too much alcohol, heated argument, etc etc) does bring it out in people and I’m sure you’ll agree with me too. Its not fair to generalize in such a way and say south american poor people are crappier poor people than the english. Down and out englishmen from the shadier sides of communities can be just as bad.
And Giggs12. Mate you crack me up
Utd_fc I’m on this united group on face book and the amount of racist biggoted coments the pop up are disgraceful and they are comming from british people not saying these people are reds but it makes no difference.
utd_fc
I see things in relative way. Yes there is racism still about in England and in no way am I trying to paint a picture of England being all roses, butterflies and peace. I also put in my text that it is more prevelant in poorer areas which I think you’d agree that to be the case. In south America and Brazil included even though they seem to be upside down on this matter, black individuals are not often “invited” into areas of importance. In England we do not have that problem, there may be the odd slightly biggoted individual who when given the choice may choose the white over the black but an interview in the first place may not be so easy there. Of course this is a generalisation but when trying to understand patterns of behaviour and trying to come to terms with them we are forced to adopt mathematic models and the use of statistics and they themselves are a generalisation to a degree.
Mikekelly12 – it is not a player we need, unless the boss does not think nani and young can provide enough magic to make the difference, because valencia given the no7 shirt defiantly says that the boss sees valencia has a key player, more so than nani and young. But I have said enough on the midfield, and how we are missing not only the quality, but the numbers in the midfield is well, and before anyone brings up kagwa, he is more of a no10
keano99
Thats the danger of internet forums and blogs. It gives people a chance to be faceless and say what they want. Ive often thought in the battle against racism what is the end goal of the people who battle the cause. To eliminate racism but to what degree? Enforce against the use of racist jargon OR educate the people so they see that treating people differently because of their skin colour is silly and rather pointless. I often feel we have gone down the first route and when a faceless forum exists it just shows the people havent been educated rather silenced.
Cedars – Hello mate, you well? Sorry not been ignoring you, been busy at work. We have some great options going forward with the potential to be the best in Europe. Rooney, Hernandez, Nani, Tony, Kagawa, Danny etc.
Maybe He has the same problem I had,uTorrent upgraded my 2.2 system to the latest one 3 that after a while interfered with Mozilla firefox which I use here so I couldn’t connect.I went on Explorer and became a non person.Had to uninstall Mozilla and uTorrent 3 then install uTorrent 2.2 and then Mozilla again result is I am a person again.
Utd_fc
There was a half decent programme called “is football racist” with Clarke Carlisle which touched on some of the areas you mention.
Modric has apparently missed spurs training because he is on his way to Real Madrid. Well that’s one saga put to bed.
There again maybe the unit’s nurse caught him.
I do not for one minute believe we have offered 30 million for some cunt who has done fuck all in the game. Won’t happen. Who the fuck do Sao Paolo think they are if true? How much DO they want for this cunt?
King Eric
“A growing number of São Paulo’s fans are also baffled by the announcement. While Moura’s talent is recognized, he’s yet to perform well on a regular basis and after two years with the club, has failed to help them to any silverware” … £30m my left bollock !!
mike – Piss take mate. As I posted yesterday Tim Vickery the South American expert said he hasn’t come on the last 12 months and would be a HUGE gamble.
@goat, these twats arnt faceless yet they still come out with this shit! Today a guy from india got the time of the time of tomorrows game wrong and the racist abuse he got was awful last night the modarator posted a joke about rangers and guys from belfast started throwing biggoted abuse at each other I thought this stuff was against the law Needless to say I un liked this group.
Mike
Funny as fuck I can see you pissing yourself in class. I couldn’t be a teacher I have United turrets and shout random bursts of United United United.
Utd_fc
Glad I can bring some humour, seriously though just grounded my son I saw the little racist shit eating a choc ice
Sorry for the typos I’m on a blackberry and its shit.
keano99
You did the right thing pal, fuck them if thats their attitude.
Why cant he let go? Guilty? lol
G12 when is your government mandated sensitivity training re: the plight of the street kids? Surely they’ll serve the choc ice for refreshments.
There it is then, Modric is going to the Virus for €40m according to talkSport.
We might have offered €38m for an unproved 19 yo who has never played outside of SA. But we sure as shooting won’t be fleeced for someone with some credentials and experience.
We do have our principles after all
€40m! lol good riddance. No offence Fletch of course but no thanks at that price and I highly doubt we are offering anything remotely close for an unproven 19yr old Brazilian winger.
im sure we’ve pulled out of signing this over-expensive buffoon..
i hope we buy a left back if nothing else..
can we still cancel fabio’s loan?
its looking like quite a risk now..
I doubt we are offering 38 mil for an unproven winger. Besides, we have three quality wingers so I doubt if we ever made a bid for the fella in the first place.
Kagawa is gonna rip(not rape) shit next season.
Rooney! Rooney! Rooney! For the Zibster.
a couple of my friends visited the open training session in durban :
the felt bebe has really come along in his game, good positioning and deft touch..
they also mentioned paul scholes chicha kaawa and anderson looked the best
also kagawa is like really short.
eric keane. Thanks for the update mate.
1. moura is not really an out and out winger is he?, he’s more of a central attacking midfielder. 2. The more i read the rumours, the less believable it is to me. 30Million is a lot of money but FERGIE is one to take a risk that’s worth taking. 3. We’d be out of our minds to sell nani, getting him to sign a new deal should be paramount. He’s a key player.
@eric keane are u south african?
@samuel : totally agree with you mate, selling nani would be suicidal.
i hope we try getting a genuine center mid instead of buying a young player and converting him .
@keano99 : no. got a few indian friends on vacation there. buggers get to see united play.
Samuel – New rumours we’ve went back again with a 3rd bid. 41 million Euros. Given Fergie’s comments on value, I really don’t get our intentions. Of course, United have probably had this lad in their sights for a long time. The numbers don’t stack up for me, though. Honestly, if we are in for this Moura and they’ve rejected two big offers……we should walk away.
WillieRedNut says:
If Zibbie was banned for off topic comments, we’d all banned too. That’s bollox imo.
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fuck me fellas….. I’m the worst off topic poster on here…should I get worried…….
JC Silly season mate. Don’t believe any of it.
As to Moura, there is a circulated quote from a VP of Sao Paulo that a 34M bid was placed and rejected. But whether that was in Pounds, Euros, Dollars, or Reals is anyones guess. The weight of evidence is that we are in for the lad. There is considerable debate on the amount offered.
Fully agree that the number are quite imposible to believe.
Cheers.
I thought I was the off topic champion?
A record – my first second post in a day since 5 weeks ago
OMG!
Till tomorrow – And Watson I caught yesterdays comment – Free some time?
I’ll come over for a cup of water and a salad
Big TonyBee – Me and you both!
working a lot MG weekdays in the abbatoir…… but off most weekends…suppose i could get up the 5 to Worcester if you fancy meeting up….no tongues mind ….not on the first date…..
Another day is gone, and nothing of substance coming from the markets! We desperately need a holding mid.! But i guess they are never made anymore!
We are not signing a midfielder this year…Kagawa and Powell are seen as the creative and potential(midfielder) signings. SAF has not even hinted at a midfield signing, he never does and we wont sign one until another 2 midfielders leave (Scholes and Giggs/Fletch).
The left back signing is a slow process, the other team needs to sign a replacement, get an agreed fee etc. We are most likely trying to sort a deal out before the season starts on the 20th.
The much needed/anticipated midfield signing is not happening, its a harsh reality, we don’t have the funds to buy proven midfielder let alone a top notch one like Moutinho,Modric etc. I doubt we can even afford paper-names like Tiote/Fellani etc, so no point stressing.
This Lucas Moura $30m Bid is utter garbage, grow up lads…this is not the time to laugh with egg in our faces….if it was a name like Schwiney…I would humour the link, but now Ive had enough.
We better sign Leyton Beens or Foogie will get a horses head for Christmas !
water and a fucking salad…hee hee …..you’ll laugh when you see JUST how much MrsBee wants me to go down that route…aint worked in 20 years… too late now…fat and proud….
Willie – 40million is mind boggling money to spend on an unproven player but maybe the glazers are trying to flex their muscles. We haven’t really lavishly spend since buying berbatov but i don’t feel signing moura is absolutely necessary. I’m one to pick up a quality player, in any position at the right price. You can’t ever have enough class acts in a team but not at a ridiculous price.
Personally, i’m feeling this rumour is another media invented bullshit. We’ll get linked with the brazilian for the entire period of the transfer window and then we’ll be told that we were priced out and he’ll probably sign for inter milan or madrid. Seems to be bollocks to me, i’m not fussed at all and have barely read rumours specifically tagging lucas moura to it. It simply isn’t realistic at all but who knows.
I dont understand why some of you feel that spending 30 million euros on a 19 year old is classed as bad value (Fergies words). He will have 13-15 years of football. Thats 2,5 million per season max minus wages.
Is modric at the same amount of money good value? Hes 7 years older and thus that would be 5 million per year and giving him 5 years at OT will have zero sell on value (see Berba).
Depending on how the brazillian kid does will depend on his resale value should we want to get rid.
Ive never wanted Modric, hes hugely over rated, hes small, he cannot use his head for toffee. He gets caught up field and more often than not not track back – its a bit late to teach an old dog new tricks. Im glad we dodged that bullet. If I had the choice Id punt with the brazillian. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
BAINES is a fucking no-no…too expensive and not good enough ….. the toffees think we are after him and because it is us they bung a stupid price on him
evening Goat…. great to have you back ….totally agree with your Modric is a lightweight views
I tried a Brazilian once ….itchy as fuck…….
Eric keane – agreed. It seems some assume the loss of nani won’t be felt. He’s a brilliant player that would be snapped up by any big european club, he’d flourish as wel. We need to do everything to keep him as clearly, he’s willing to stay.
regarding the purchase of a new midfielder. Well, as the transfer window edges closer to slamming shut, it’s more and more unlikely. I guess FERGIE wants to give the younger players in that position a chance plus there’s anderson who FERGIE seems to believe in.
Goat, I agree with your calculus. But the premise is off. If the values are indeed in Pounds, then this would have to be the next Ronaldo. Do you lad recall the number of years it took for Ronaldo to settle? and he was only an hour flight from his mum. What about the twins? their development is still delayed because they hardly interact. If we are talking about 40M and the kid progresses then fine. But that is a huge if. Has Fergie even seen the kid play?
FERGIE won’t be signing baines. He has mentioned converting brady into a left back (jordi alba was once a winger, look how he turned out). Fabio will be monitored and expected to fight for evra’s place. Tyler blackett may even have a shot at it, age is no barrier if you’re good enough and ready. Don’t see FERGIE signing a decent but not spectacular left back for 15million when clearly he can develop players in that position that could be potentially better.
Resale value means jack shit if the lad turns out to be a fucking dud! Our dealings with Brazillian players is hit and miss. I suppose no risk, no reward. This would be a huge risk……
Clint-Iamyourpapii
I dont see this Moura kid as a midfielder rather than the more advanced of a midfield 5 or second striker. The role Rooney plays as present.
We have the two old style strikers (No10′s) in Hernandez and Wellbeck and now with Berba going a second old No9 (Iniesta type) is needed.
As for Baines. WHY? Evra is better, hes back in favour with France, all troubles behind him other than the Uraguayan twat. You cannot sign a 26 year old England International on the verge of making the left back possition his own (cole age retiring) and sit him on the bench. If Fergie was going to replace Evra Im sure he would have done that by now and if he expects Evra to play less games then why send Fabio on loan. If Baines was to be the next LB why wouldnt Fabio be sold.
I would have to say if we signed Baines it would be the biggest transfer shock Ive ever witnessed at OT, because it just doesnt fill any need.
even i think andersn should get a couple more years.. he’s 24.
midfielders generally peak around 26. if anderson can have 2 injury-free seasons that would be excellent for his career as well as our midfield..
i think nick powell will be made a into a gerrard, lampard type midfielder.. an attacking CM who plays deeper but makes driving runs into the box..
Let’s be honest, managers rely heavily on their scouts. FERGIE can’t be at every game but he’ll obviously take a trip or two to watch players. Largely though, he’ll be hoping his scouts assessments are reliable. was javier hernandez even watched by FERGIE? look how that turned out. Football is a risk.
I’ve finally watched some clips of Lucas Moura in action and now I can’t wait to see him pull on the gingham shirt. He will delight Reds and infuriate ABUs in equal measure.
TonyBee
Great to have me back? ooooh dont count your chickens, lol. Nobody has put me and great in the same sentence before unless you count “great big fat clueless double crossing shit for brains # %&&*#%&¤”
But thats just women speak!
Milan would be a great move for Berbatov. Better than West Ham, anyway!
Willie: 110% agree. But a bit exciting in a crazy kind of way.
FletchTHEMAN
Yeah but whos in a rush Fletch? You dont regret the Ronaldo signing do you? Sure there are problems for the latinos to settle in the north of England but Im pretty sure Rafael, Andersson and Nani can help him out. We are a slightly more cosmopolitan team than we were when Ronaldo first joined and United has taken another step forward in attracting talent from South America. Its about time we get there before Barca and Madrid and whilst those two teams are short of cash and void of space in the team we should take advantage.
Has Fergie ever seen the kid play, Im not sure, but Im sure he trusts his brother explicitly and for very good reason. Its alot of money but if Martin says yes then his judgement should be listened too. Hes very rarely wrong.
When donkey carroll was linked with westham, it was understandable (sam allardyce hoof, kick and rush football e.t.c) but the berba link to westham is just fucking ridiculous. Talking about westham, how’s that little ‘bling bling’ thug ravel morrison? is he developing nicely and getting the regular games he needed?. Ah, he was once a united player, it looked inevitable that he’d break through if he knuckled down but spent more time in a court dock than he did on the pitch, all the hype that surrounded him has been drained off like a rat drying off from a swim in a sewage of watery shit. potential Fucked a career up and for what?.
Ronaldo cost 12.6 million? Moura will cost over 30 million sterling. Slight difference there….
Ravel made his bed Samuel. He probably thought he was nailed on for a starting place at West Ham.
Don’t get me wrong mates. I would absoulutely be buzzing if we went for moura at 34M. As I was for Bebe at 7M. I love radical crazy moves as much as the next guy. How else to you back United who seem to love to show up in the second half when they are down by gifting the opposition a couple.
Just the sensible side of me makes me NOT believe the media hype, ESPECIALLY during silly season.
Oh right, Never thought I would see a United fan praising Bebe, but there are a couple reports from training today that he was looking really good.
So yes, they can come good. But any lad who comes in for silly money will get crucified by United fans, that includes Ronaldo, Carrick, Berbatov and yes, even Bebe!
Way off topic:
City v Dynamo Dresden nil – nil
City taking their preseason seriously then! #MassiveClub
WillieRedNut
Yeah yeah and once upon a time a packet of crisps cost 12p and a can of coke 10p. I remember the good old days, lol.
Showing your age Willie?
@WillieRedNut
But value doesn’t mean cheap. It means not paying more than a range that the club feel is acceptable. €41mill is only £32mill so perhaps the club do feel he is of the same potential as we bid for Hazard (and we were after two AMC’s it seems as it seems we were after both Hazard and Kagawa rather than one or the other)
And everyone saying Lucas is unproven, so is Hazard who has played his football in a weak french league and has hardly set the international scene alight. So we bid £32mill for Hazard so why would it be that strange if we bid £32mill for Lucas
so the old greasy water rat is at it again? now ive known some vile creatures in my time tevez,hitler,john racist,kleptomom,shag your best mate missus and get her boxed and deny all knowledge because my cock is a swivelled up cunt called cashley cole who is a lying little shit, take bungs for tours,racist,longest and fucking ugliest head in the world Terry, but this little cock cheese munching racist is fucking right up there. id say when they pulled this greasy little uruguay test tube baby out the tube they fucking definetly didnt find a donor with a brain in fact a brain would a compliment for this disgrace to the human race fucking hairy teethed carpet munching cunt!
goatinaunitedshirt
I dont think we need Lucas Moura, we have Kagawa in that role behind the striker aswell as Rooney and we have powerful wings in Nani,Valencia + Young. This £30m signing doesn’t make sense which is why I believe the wrong Manchester club is being thrown about in the speculation, there was must some sort of error. 30M….thats a joke within itself.
Well I’d rather have Baines than the dodgy Evra and no back up. France have got rid of Evra haven;t they. Gael Clichy has improved a bit and taken the place of a controversial ex captain. Why not sign Baines? Evra is 31, his friends have all left, he’s on his way down and shows no signs of improving defensively as he’s been poor since WC 2010…I personally reckon this is his last season at United. A left back should be signed and bedded in now without the pressure in 2013. I didn’t criticise Patrice in 2011 because he got the benefit of the doubt, but now he’s gonna need a serious kung fu kick up the back-side. Credit to Paddy for playing 50 games but only 10 at max has been of satisfactory defensive displays. We need a left back to at least take 25 appearances off his shoulders. Baines maybe expensive and 27, but he’s perfect candidate to have the role as left back for 3/4 years till Young Fabio becomes great whilst getting game time at United. (IMO, I have doubts about Fabio but that’s another debate). Baines could prove to be a A.Young-esque signing….not necessary but it does no harm either. Young is great asset to have on the bench and useful outwide as we don’t have a natural left midfielder ….yes he’s not Mr perfect but he’s contributed and done his £18m worth from my POV.
We won’t sign a central midfielder so we might aswell strengthen in the next weakest link. LEFT BACK. Paddy is still in the top 5 Left backs in the world, but time is closing in on him. He’s ageing. Attacking wise he’s great but he lacks the hunger to drive back, concentrate and defend. He needs Ousting…the position is there for the taking….I don’t approve of R.Brady taking the role of Fabio on but if he proves himself….fuck Baines.
Goat – I’m an old man now!
OH fuck ya! Just saw that Fox Soccer is carrying both the match tomorrow and Saturday live from the RSA! Happy days, get in Reds (yeah its only preseason but Im bored as fuck without United matches especially since I’m still limited mobility with the bashed knee from the accident).
gaz
capital U for Uruguay otherwise spot on.
Clint-Iamyourpapii
I dont think City are in for Lucas but I wouldnt be surprised if the brazillian manager hasnt come out and tried to bump up the price by alerting all including City of Uniteds supposed interest.
We do need another attacking midfielder because Scholes is good for this year and then thats it. Kagawa can be seen as a replacement for Parks squad place (not possition) but we are still a few places short and need greater depth in quality.
I do believe this year we will be going with the 4-5-1 again using the two wingers as auxilary strikers. This generally means you need 4 good wingers because of fitness and it could be argued that Young could be used a 1 of the three more central midfielders ala Frank Lampard. Attacking and making runs but not exclusively the left wide man that swings in the crosses. You have to realise that when buying a prospect this young you are not buying him to fill a role now but a roll in 3 years time when hes settled in and understanding the United way of playing. In three years there will be no Giggs, no Scholes, arguably no Carrick, Young would have lost alot of his pace and moved more centrally on the pitch, Rooney may well drop back and adopt the Paul Scholes role. So there is room for another prospect or two.
I have to say I totally disagree with you in the need of spending upwards of 15 million pounds on a left back who is already reaching the end of his pace filled days. 27 is old for a fullback especially to fill a role now and then and terrible value for money as well. I dont see the left back possition as a weekness and I feel that we will more than likely use Evans as cover at LB. Hes not a LB in the attacking fullback mould by any stretch of the imagination but Im betting that next year we are going with Rafael more often than not at RB. Fergussons teams more often than not play an attacking fullback on one side and a more adapted central defender on the other side. It means we have three tall CBs when defending set plays.
See last year when we played Smalling and Jones at RB when Evra played LB, when Evans played a few games at LB then Rafael came in. G.Neville of years past is the exception to the rule as he read the game so well and was just a short CB.
fuck off…if we control the politics of sport why do we get bollocked for stuff way more…fergie rants at referee 3 match touchline ban, AvB and Wenger get shit.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/transfer-gossip-manchester-uniteds-bid-1146680
29.8 mil isn’t good enough for him? Get fucked.
Costas
Its The Mirror
Clint-Iamyourpapii
Sorry I forgot to mention Fabio and Brady in my reply. I see Fabios rental to QPR as a promotion. He is getting geared up for regular football so he hits the ground running next year. Brady has still masses to learn and would probably do better being behind Evra and getting to see him in action at first hand and also spending time in the reserves from time to time. I just see the LB possition set up for years to come and dont see the need for anyone to be brought and rocking the boat.
Anyway didnt Moyes come out and say if Everton sold Baines then he’d be leaving Everton. What a price to pay
Costas, Those number sound about right, which is shocking enough from the Mirror.
But they make me think that the numbers like 38 quoted in pounds are actually euros or even dollars. Very confusing stuff when 4 wildly different currencies are being discussed.
It does make sense to one number I heard today. It was from a source that doesn’t usually make stuff up and it said that £32M would do it. Interesting? I have no way to confirm ofcourse, so will wait and see with the rest of you.
wakey – Hazard hasn’t proved a thing yet. At least he was plying his trade in a European league, though. Of course value doesn’t mean cheap. This is still a huge risk for United. We’ve had our fingers burned with Veron and to a lesser extent, Berbatov. IMO, this will be an even bigger risk than those 2 signings. The premier league isn’t for the faint hearted. The pace is relentless. No doubting the lads got talent. You need more than that, to be a success in English football. Much rather see this money spent on someone like Mountinho.
@Goat
I don’t trust them a great deal either, but I don’t believe they are that far off regardign Sao Paolo’s asking price. The general concensus for weeks now is that this kid costs around that much. And it’s a ridiculous amount imo.
@Fletch
Well 38 mil in Euro is around 30 mil pounds, so I think the numbers getting mentioned left and right are pretty much the same. The world has gone mad. I’ve kept quiet on this Moura topic but money like that could do wonders for our squad depth. Why spend it for an area where we are already covered?
You can’t make this stuff up
Rio might be charge by the FA over the iced tweet.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2175091/Rio-Ferdinand-faces-FA-Twitter-charge.html
Costas, Silly money. Bet you will be excited if it happens, but just too big to admit it
Most fans will be expecting a lad that can walk on water, if it happens. Bit daft, I know.
This isn’t me defending a United player, but what the fuck did Rio do wrong? He just agreed with a tweet that told him exactly what Ashley Cole. It shouldn’t be a big deal. Imagine Terry getting away with a racist remark and Rio getting charged for one. All this in a country where we command the politics in sports and Fergie is the president.
*what Ashley Cole is*
@Fletch
Well it would be somewhat exciting given that we haven’t spent such an amount in 4 years and it could potentially beat Berba’s transfer record. But in the grand scale of things, Moura shouldn’t be a priority for us right now.
Manchester United will carry 275 EPL footballs to SouthAfrica
See the logistics video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGNjbu_rXqI&feature=player_embedded
RioFerdy5 calling Cashley “Choc-Ice” is RACIST and insults the heritage of Cole and other black people who participate in legal proceedings.
Its the equivalent of people saying “Eminem is not white because he raps…therefore he’s black.”
RioFerdy5 is a RACIST !
He doesn’t like Black People.
Tie him to chair & make him eat choc-ices is what I say…fucking Curly haired cunt…*imagine that*.
Costas
If he goes to Milan and then becomes the new Ronaldo will you be as forgiving to the boss knowing that theh worse case scenario could be another 80 million in the bank and best case scenario a couple of champions league wins. We have a fantastic foundation, we lost the league by goal difference against a ½ billion pound team with quite a few injuries and retirements. Now we need the missing piece. Ronaldo was a gamble of sorts and so was Cantona. Maybe the money wasnt as high in those instances but the squad possition is still a gamble. I say if Martin Ferguson says hes ok then thats fine by me. We are missing a superstar. Kagawa isnt it, hes a squad player. Rooney needs a platform.
FletchTHEMAN
Ive got to say that Im apalled by what Ferdinand was laughing at. I agree it wasnt him that said it but racism and biggotry only gains momentum if an individual becomes a group becomes a mass. Choc Ice is a derogatory term which means he believes Ashley Cole is black on the outside but white in the middle. I take great offence as Im white on the outside and white on the inside. Whats wrong with being white. As far as Im concerned its racism but from the other perspective and Rio Ferdinand should be repremanded by Manchester United.
I am not going to be one who gives up my strongly held beliefs just to appease the fact Im a United supporter. I come first then United. I will not blindly defend a United player because hes just that. Id like to say thank you Ashley Cole for allowing this to be swept under the carpet even if the press will not let it lie, it shows good insight. However its still a Ferdinand doing and he should be punished.
Id also like to see Sir Alex ban all United players from using Twitter with the ban being drawn up into their contracts. Footballers are as thick as pig shit for the most part and speak before thinking if they indeed have the ability to think. They should do what they do best, play football and leave politics and social chatter to those that have experience in such matters. Rio may want to be the peoples footballer and a bit ghetto but hes rolling in lolly and shagging posh tarts in sequin dresses. Hes not street, he was but come on Rio that was 20 fekkin years ago when you were still a boy. Your not tupac your Obama. You represent Manchester United NOT Rio Ferdinand ghetto king.
Im goig to get shit for this for not blindly following a United player, lay it on.
Imagine if we signed RVP:
I just see 65,000 men masturbating at OT and the stewards struggling to keep the pitch dry.
Goatinaunitedshirt….
fuck you man, seriously i hope a women with big juggs fucks you…..(ignore my attempt at being mean).
Rio and Cash Cole were friends, decently close friends, its between them, even if aired in public, it not our business to give opinion on what he should say about a guy he feels has betrayed him.
Apparently Stoke City has offered £1.6 for US National team and 2 time MLS all star defender Geoff Cameron but the stingy MLS wants £2.2?? Supposedly even Houston accepted the deal but with the way that the shitty MLS is run the league office has an ownership stake in the players so they can’t be sold without league approval and the league wants to get payyyyeeed… ugh. Let him go, can only do the MLS and US soccer as a whole a world of good to have more successful internationals in the Premier League.
that was in millions of pounds not just £1.6 or £2.2 pounds for any of you smart asses out there…
Clint-Iamyourpapii
Its just one of those things mate. If the press decided to leave it alone I would be happy with the boss calling in Rio and calling him a clueless twat. Give him 10 hours comunity service going to the hospital to see kids and that be the end of it. BUT now the press, doing their job mind, have decided in their wisdom, lol, to see some hypocrasy. And unfortunately they are right.
Suarez cant say negro as Terry cant call Anton Ferdinand a “black cunt” as Rio cannot be seen to agreeing to the fact that Ashley Cole is a choc ice. If it gets called out and trampled in the press for Suarez and Terry then dont be surprised about what will follow now. BUT because its gone to the press and theyve decided (to do what they are there for) to drag the name and reputation of Manchester United through the gutter or atleast ask questions of their honesty and sincerity on beating racism Rio needs a bit more than a strong word.
This may get very ugly indeed. Hell shit I dont want it to happen Rio is one of my favourite players and easily Englands best defender but jesus shite he has to learn when to just shut the fuck up. Sure hes pissed off but by splurting something out in the heat of the moment is generally what gives you a whole world of butthurt.
JC
North American sports in general run on a completely different system to ours over here in Europe and are generally not compatable.
We run on a buy and sell system, players under contract for an agreed time and thereafter free to move. Transfers are possible during contract periods but the destination has to be agreed by the player.
In North America, players are drafted from college on the understanding the least successfull team gets to draft the best player. The draft process being the same as picking football sides at school, take it in turns and the fatty gets picked last. Then they are under obligation to sign for the team that drafted them if they want to be a pro. Then they sign an entry level deal, everyone gets the same no matter how good or bad you are. You can be bobbed up and down to and fro from the reserves and your pay varies accordingly. Then when your contract is up you become a restricted free agent where you can thrash out a new deal often at the decision of the team who drafted you, if you dont agree you can go to arbitration where the league decides your wage based on statistics of your performances in previous years. Then if you sign a deal you will likely not be given a deal that will take you past 7 years from the date your drafted so you become a retricted free agent again at the end of your next contract but this time other teams can offer sheet you. That being if a team compensates the team who drafted you with draft pick equal to your value determined by preset rules by the league then the team that drafted you has to match the offer of wages by the team attempting to get the player. If they match then the player signs with the drafting team. All this under a cap system where each club is allowed a maximum amount of money to pay all their players wages……… and so on and so on. jesus christ its bloody communism
True goat, Im an American, I was bitching that the stingy MLS won’t let a player go for a fee agreed to by the club he plays for which is BS. The player ownership rules in MLS are crap (though the college/high school players do have the option of signing for a different league if they don’t want to play in the MLS when drafted) but the TV/marketing fees aren’t enough to keep the sport afloat without most of the rules in place. The salary cap has actually worked out pretty well for MLS though it’s now being abused heavily with the designated player rule by certain clubs.
1. CANTONA – kung-fu kicked a fan
2. ROY KEANE – refused Patrick Viera a handshake numerous times (racist) & “almost” ended the career of Alfe Inge Haaland
3. GIGGS – sleeps with his sister in law.
4. RIO – intentionally skipped a drug test.
5. ROONEY – slept with prostitutes while his wife was pregnant.
6. PETER SCMEICHEL’S – allegedly racially abused Ian Wright.
7. ASHLEY YOUNG – disgracefully dives and gets fellow professionals sent off.
8. LADY ALICE FERGUSON – shags Mike Phelan in her own backyard everyday.
The most hypocrite club in the world, headed by red-wine-nose Lady Alice Ferguson!!
Goat @ 22:40: “Kagawa can be seen as a replacement for Parks squad place”
Get real.
KagawaBunga was the best player for the team that won the Bundesliga last year.
The champions’ best player – understand ?
Park was a defensive winger; KagawaBunga is an attacking midfielder who scored almost twenty goals for Borussia Dortmund last season.
It’s hard – impossible, in fact – to take you seriously.
Seeing KagawaBunga merely as “a replacement” for ThreeLungPark is similar to the foul jibe that he’s only here “to sell shirts”.
MADIBA day is today 18th july
Yeah its today the big mark his 94th birthday
And there’s no better way of celebrating that than watching our kids play live for the first time for some of them since the day the bitters won then league
Yeah, the boys face amazulu at moses mabida at durban south africa!!!
Good luck to the street kid!!!
I heard he won applauses for the most freak acrobatic effort yesterday, out of hem all, he was the only player to have scooped that prize
I tell you now, this kid has something much (I never doubted his potential) exciting in his locker.
Good morning ROM!!!
COBHAMHOOD – Sanctimonious hole aspiring to be a cunt. It’s just a pity you will never get a proper dick in you. Only Sewer rats.
You should of not replied to that attention seeker scumbag!!!
I only see his club fight relegation this season.
What a toiled bug
mORNING reds ariund the world,
tongith the game is at what time?
“splurting something out in the heat of the moment is generally what gives you a whole world of butthurt……”
Hahahaha, hilarious! Couldn’t have summed up the athlete/twitter relationship any better.
Morning all
Sandy Baby
Fuck me sideways that post of yours was fucked up with typos mate!! ha ha The lads kick off 7 PM UK time….
On another note, Molde kick off their CL campaign tonight against FK Venspils from Latvia…..Come ON Ole
what I’d like to know is what silver ware a teenage Rooney won for Everton. How much did we get him again.
Talent is talent. You can’t Fuck with that.
The short Argentine ahem “cunt” raping all defenders big and toughbefore is proof of that
Che Cedara,
Lol, dont know how many typos in my last post
was kinda multi tasking..
anyway, Morning mate,
thanks for the timings, that means we will kick off around 11 45 PM India Time..
Hope I will find some good streaming links to watch the game..
wasup with you..?
Damn touch screens. I’m sure ya’ll get the gist
Sandy Baby
All is well with me pal, been up since 6.30, its almost 7.30 now, have some urgent work to finish and send over……
slim
You mean Maradona mate? Watched him live at OT when he was with Barca, Robbo pissed all over him for 90 minutes
I know supporters want us to win things every season and rightly so, I know United are with out doubt the biggest football club in the world, biggest ‘brand’ as it were and dear God I hate that term…….
How ever this club has given us magic over the years with out necessarily winning anything, we have a history and tradition unrivalled by any other club in the world………..As Sir Bobby once said ‘We get paid to entertain, that is the Manchester United way, people pay money to watch us so give our all to make them happy’
I was lucky, no I should say blessed to have seen the lads live at OT for so many years and for me that night in March 1984 will always be one of the most magical of my life, I do not think I could ever feel such emotions again ever.
United, not just a football club but a way of life………If you support them because they win things then you do not really support them.
United are my life
Cedars,
Cheers pal, good day.
Slim,
wasup mate,
will you be at pre season games? you live in Africa, isnt it?
Cedars,
bang on..
winning silver is not the only factor for we fans..
we are in madly in love with this club, deeply passionate, crazy, fanatic, loyal, proud..
this is a non tangible feeling that comes by supporting this club 24/7..
we dont care whether we are world champs or european champs,
whenever i see a red shirt, it brings the best passionate feelings out of us..
all of us share this common feeling, love, respect, pride, passion..
Long may it continue..
Morning…
Listen, moura might be the second coming of sir stanley mathews, and I certainly see the logic of ‘nothing ventured, nothing gained’. My simple point is that we should be pulling out all stops to sign a midfielder instead of putting the ‘too good to miss’ arguement at the forefront of our transfer strategy. Certainly, if we are bidding those numbers, it debunks the ‘no pot to piSs in’ theory. I find it impossible to believe that we can’t get a good mf for that sort of money. Therefore, either the club doesn’t think we need a mf, which would be unfortunate, or the moura story is bollocks, or we the latter AND indeed we don’t have more transfer funds for the season (difficult to believe since we did bid 30 odd for hazard)
Sandy Baby
I am always bang on as it were, in fact I bang them so well it always leaves a smile on their faces!! ha ha ha ha
Jeet,
Totally agree, we gotta stick to our priorities..
Cedars,
the fucker in you always goes back to the sex thing
you are truly sex starved Gorilla as termed by a great red and ROM legend
@Goat
Not saying Moura is not the real deal. He could very well be. 30mil + for him is still an outrageous sum though. Think about what Cristiano Ronaldo cost at his age. In my opinion, there’s a tendency to overprice young Brazilians because of that country’s rich history in producing talented players. Unfortunately, while some of them could become the next Kaka, some of them could become the next Robinho. So for me it’s a risky investment. Especially when you consider that other areas of our team (like the full back and central midfield berths) need the money a lot more. For me those are the missing pieces of the puzzle. We have enough attacking minded options and matchwinners in my opinion.
Sandeep
Oh I wish mate. Working in the western part of the continent. Plus just got the job recently so no chance of a leave.
Cedars
Ha. Not quite. But I’m sure you know who I was talking about. My memory is a little foggy but I seem to remember him outjumpig vidic in a champions league final. Yeah,that’s the one.
To be honest I’m optimistic about SAF sorting out a midfielder. A genuine CM. But I’m also glad he’s on the hunt for talented ones.
It’s simple if there’s no plan for a CM – promotion from within or a buy. Then it’d be safe to say the gaffer has lost his marbles.
*fat stinking chance of that happening. Let’s wait and see. Imo SAF wants to promote from within for the CM spot
Moura tweeted “manchester excites me” but it was quickly removed! Means nothing but he prob meant city
It saddens me that a fucking openly right wing racist is given the time of day here, he gets responses and is even allowed to post whilst an innocent and funny poster gets banned…….
slim
Oh I get it now, you mean the other fucking midget! ha ha ha
@Cedars kick off in lebanon time plz?
Cedars
Maybe because he does have interesting points to make on the footie front. With regards his political views, that’s his prerogative. I reckon zibbies account wad taken over. Didn’t sound like him to be honest but that’s just me
Mrad
That would be 9 PM pal…………By the way welcome on board, another son of the cedars, soon we will take this place over! ha ha
thank u Cedars.. we will burn some tieres and take this place over in 5 min..ha ha !!
slim
No and its a big NO as far as I am concerned………..Zibbie’s account was not hacked, he spouted some shit and got banned…….On the other hand a right wing racist who comes on here and defends Suarez against Evra, uses the N word openly, says that he hates people of colour is allowed to post….That fucking baffles me
Morning ROM.
Anybody else catching TDKR this weekend? I got my tickets for Friday booked and ready which is awesome. Though it is not in the theater I prefer (who have a website that sucks balls and cannot handle the load), it is a pretty decent cinema and I am just glad to be watching it on the first day of the worldwide release. Woohoo!
In better news, we finally get to see Kagawa in action today. I am going to have to scour the web for streams which sure will be available. The match begins at 19:00 BST which is pretty good. I will post the stream links if I find any.
BTW, any of you bought the new kit? I am planning to visit the local store today to see whether they have it in stock, but I am sure it sucks balls though.
Mrad
Yeah, you take care of the north streets and I will handle the south, burn them fucking tires till we take over the world!! ha ha ha ha
pre season begins really excited by the start of the season and seeing Shinji play! Just need to add two players for me and we will be good to go.
I also see Baines in one post was overrated? He was the best left back in the league last year by a ciuntry mile!
Ciuntry mile? fucking new measure or what?
http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=164169&part=sports
Guys, bookmark the above link and keep checking for streams on there. Any streams will surely be linked to in that site.
cedars
Mate touch typing son, i dont do proof reading on a blog!
Baines and Moura yes please!
Costas agree my friend the amount being suggested for lucas could be spent on mountinho and m’villa who both would provide the both aspects we currently missing in the centre midfield area,
giggs12gerrard0 not for 17 million m8
How will they call it if Terry escapes any punishment and Rio is charged???
Busby babes, Well, there’s nothing we can really do about that. English players will always be overpriced. That is the reality. I think Baines will certainly be a good addition to the squad we already have. I am not sure we’ll be signing any more players at the back given Sir Alex’s recent pressie but I think Baines will do really well for us.
But maybe Rio will find consolation in Ameri??? Ichnose is hot, isn’t she?
Come on reds..
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Kagawa on his official blog: Finally, I’ve stepped into “the king of the club”, Manchester United. Its history, players, and significance of the logo … everything is nothing but “wow. I’ll be wearing the famous red jersey and playing what I love, football, as a part of The Red Devils.
http://beautifullyred.co.uk/2012/07/18/three-beautiful-pre-season-goals-gone-by/
It contains only three goals but almost all are of special players who made impact in their United careers.
I think the second goal is especially crucial. I think Rooney’s lost some of that raw talent. That ability to take people on and do something special. I still think he’s a really special player, but I haven’t seen him produce some magical runs like that in a long time. He’s really transformed into a proper striker but definitely lost the ability to run with the ball at his feet.
I cant see what Mountinio would add to United? He is really decent but I dont see waht he could add in that we dont already have?
Good morning any one going to the Open on Friday ?, carnt wait the rain is going away come on Tiger, Rory . Rip van winkle to sign soon
Im going to throw it out there i hope we dont sign Van Persie. I dont think we need him.It will supress the development of Danny and Chico. RVP is a great player but with Rooney being our main man I like what we haev up top.
Damn.. I want to watch these pre season matches but can’t as I don’t have internet connection at home and it starts at 11.30 pm IST which means it would be difficult to stay at office to watch that too.
Shame that none of the channel is showing it live in India.
balaji yes m8 being english does seem to esculate their prices, and i dont doubt baines is’nt a good player just dont feel he’s worth 17 million, and just feel centre mid needs more attention. baines also offers alot in an attacking emphasis more assists than walcott/throw shearer into that has well:-) but 17 mill for a player who’s not a dead cert to start is questionable, when centre mid is more apparent. giggs12gerrard0 i feel mountinho would provide us with that creative element, good in possesion of the ball, can pick a pas.
G12G0, I think the RVP rumors are just that mate. I don’t think we are foolish enough to collapse our wage structure by going for someone like RVP. We already have a few superstars in our team who are going to demand super-high wages. With RVP in the picture, it would entirely collapse. I think that is a completely non-discussion area for me. Never going to happen. Ever.
@WillieRedNut
But the French league is really very weak these days. It’s much like the Dutch league where it’s still living off its history and people still assume its a league that almost guarentees success elsewhere. Evidence however suggests that that’s not the case with most of the recent French league imports both to England and other top leagues have struggled. Even someone like Benzema took time to step up the many levels from France to Spain and the Jury’s still out.
And I would suggest going from France to Spain is easier as perhaps the biggest hurdle for moving to England is the physical nature.
And when it comes with Brazil perhaps it’s better suited for the swicth to England directly. Brazilian football has the rep about being all about silky skills but once you get to senior football Brazilian football is very physical and tough so that side of the game Lucas should be ready for having over 50 first team games under his belt.
@Giggs12Gerrard0
I agree on Moutinho. Decent player but strikes me as Europa spot challenging club not United level. Not even convinced of M’Vila either (and seemingly neither is Wenger) as I have never seen him take charge in a France International match. And I’m just not convinced that performing in the French league means much these days.
As I said above it strikes me now like a league like the Dutch league where players really need to get out ASAP to fulfil their potential these days. Otherwise they need plenty of time to adjust to the better league. With Hazard at Chelsea I’m expecting a Mouluda situation where he might have a good first couple of weeks as new players often do but then may have a difficult 6-12 months once that wears off and he tries to adjust
Wakey
Completely agree mate, we can produce our own players of that ilk within. I feel we are at a point in time where additions need to be of the top draw standard.
The more I see of Moura the more i like him, he looks the real deal. Shinji, Nani, Young, Valencia, and Moura could be the choice three to play behind A striker. It seems Fergie is setting up this 4-2-3-1 formation.
wakey – Disagree on Mountinho. To say he’s a Europa spot challenging player is bollox mate. He’s a quality player, who’s improved no end at Porto. Didn’t rate him at Sporting Lisbon. The lad has got his shit together since then, though. Don’t get me wrong on Moura, he’s a talented boy. An exciting player. The success rate of Brazillian players like him settling in England is few and far between. Too much of a gamble for me.
*Moutinho*
Agree with Denton. Kagawa is more than a squad player. This lad will take people by surprise. One of the best attacking players in Germany last season.
wakey each to their own m8 but time is certainly on m’villa side regarding the national side he’s 22 and made in the region of 15 caps, has that tenacity about him and again good in possesion of the ball, mountinho europa standard, no dis-respect but he’s better currently than ando, cleverley looks a fine prospect and beleive he’ll come to the fore but jury still out, joao is only 25 and i beleive would improve further under fergies stewardship
wakey – Forgot to say, I do agree on M’Vila. Not impressed with him. Seems to have an attitude problem too. We should stay away from that one…
willierednut and thats why he’d be a perfect fit, fergie seems to get the best out of the tempremental one’s:-)
@WillieRedNut & Busby babes
When I said Europa League I meant if he came to England. Yes he looks good Porto when I have seen then play but like M’Vila he seems to be hit and miss internationally. And again you have to look at where he is playing his football, Portugal isn’t a particularry strong league and isn’t a physical league which is why we have seen so many players from that league take take years to settle if they ever do.
Busby Babes mentions Anderson for example but Anderson was one of the outstanding talents in portugal when we bought him, certainly considered better than Moutinho so is it simply a case that Moutinho looks to have improved as he is playing in a weaker league where he gets plenty of gametime while Anderson looks to have failed to improve because he is playing in a better league where even when he is fit his game time is limited.
I’m sure perhaps as a squad player Moutinho would do a job but at 25 he is well past the point where if he was really going to kick up the number pf levels needed he would have moved to a more competative and stronger league already.
@WillieRedNut
The thing with Brazillians is we don’t see that many arrive directly from Brazil having been playing a fair bit of first team football. We see players who either were snatched directly from the Brazilian teams youth setups or who have arrived via other European countries usually ahving been snatched from Brazil before playing senior football.
I do think if more made the trip directly from Brazilian first team football to England we would have a better view of them as their game is fast paced and physical which is just like hours.
I guess what doesn’t help is what we are seeing with Lucas and we saw when we tried to by Costas that the Brazilian clubs do play hardball using the countries football hertiage (and the fact the players are usually tagged the next pele and the likes) to drive the price up so they often end up keeping hol of them until they have been in Brazil too long and have stgnated and their value falls when they end up at a second tier club usually in Portugal or spain
@Busby Babes
You say m’Vila is only 22 but thats also not young. To me he is perhaps a year or two too old as plying his trade in France those years have somewhat been wasted in his development. Some players move from weak leagues way too early and damage their potential but if you turn 22 and are still in a weak league it seems late.
Admittedly he has only just turned 22 so it may not be too late but if we were going for him should have been last season when he was openly talking about dreaming of playing for us (especially as he seems to have started to get too big for his boots now, when Wenger shys away from signing players for their attitude its saying something)
wakey – We’ll have to agree to disagree on Moutinho. He played a blinder at the Euros. Against the cream of the crop of European football. Didn’t look out of place, I may add. Just because he hasn’t moved to a club yet, doesn’t mean a thing. That logic don’t fit mate. I take your point on the strength of leagues. It’s still a huge amount of money for an unproven player. He would need time to settle. No assurances he would settle in our league. I’m sure if signs(which I can’t see) we can debate this even more. If these bids are true, which we still don’t know, the club have offered fare money for him. A 3rd bid seems folly from our perspective. We can use that money for other targets we might have on our radar.
wakey to be fair m8 ando did’nt spend along duration of time in portgual if memory surves me rite were’nt much more than 12 to 14months?, and i beleive he got injured for 5 months so judging by that mountinho would come with more pedigree, 27 is regarded has a player entering their prime, i think he’d improve again coming here, he has the tools within is make up to prove is worth and under fergies stewardship i beleive that wud happen with regards to m’villa m8 i’d say 22 does’nt suggest to much evra come here older than that and not a regular fixture like m’villa’s become you could argue for the national side did’nt hinder is progress here.
Evening stink holes
Dembele for me! Just what we need. Left boozer at 1-0. Any change?