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Sunderland Fan On O’Shea and Wes Signings

Whilst still struggling to the cope with the loss of John O’Shea and Wes Brown to Sunderland, we’ve had a chat with Collin Randall from the excellent Mackem blog, Salut Sunderland, about their new signings.

Scott the Red: Are you pleased with the signings of Wes Brown and John O’Shea?

Collin Randall: Sunderland fans have broadly welcome the O’Shea singing more than that of Brown. I’m more positive, taking the view that you don’t get to play for United unless you’re pretty good. Also, I know some United supporters actually rate Brown higher than O’Shea.

STR: I’d actually say most United fans rate Brown more highly. His omission from the team this season wasn’t down to ability! Which do you think will get the most game time now they’re in the North East?

CR: I think both will play important parts in the first team squad, and probably start together in the first game at Anfield.

STR: You’ll have us lot cheering you on for that! Where do you anticipate them playing?

CR: We have serious centre-back injury problems so I’d expect that to be where they’d play. However, one area of weakness remains full back. Bardsley has proved he can play either flank so maybe Bruce has that in mind unless we make one more defensive signing. I don’t see O’Shea in a midfield role given all our contenders for that part of the formation.

STR: Any chance of either of them being captain?

I am deeply unhappy with the idea of Cattermole as captain; his disciplinary record did improve but that relied on a degree of luck. O’Shea as captain would feel like a good move to me.

STR: Do you think Bruce has done a good job in the transfer market this summer?

CR: Overall, yes. We are still short of a dependable striker, as we have been since Bent was inexplicably sold without a replacement in view. Gyan is good, but his commitment to the club is at best debatable, and Connor Wickham may take time to prove himself. And a left-back. Then Bruce must start offloading a few.

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  1. Zelh says:

    fuckin hell.
    was sneijder out with Anderson for 3 weeks?

  2. willierednut says:

    Me peepy you, but ya can’t peepy me!

  3. dannysoya says:

    CONGRATULATIONS becks on the baby girl.

    now to other news. stevie the cunt actually commends wayne rooney albeit indirectly claiming he has that fire in his belly that makes you want to watch him all the time even likened his edge to zidane’s. but then it all goes wrong when he compares roo with suarez. OH NO.

  4. Heywood is Red says:

    Rai- i am truly blessed. Not wi talents that are useful, just a phone that gives me options ha

  5. Costas says:

    Yep. Congrats to Becks for finally getting a daughter. And congrats to Sheasy, who recently became a dad too. Unfortunately, no one even knew his wife was expecting. According to the media, Victoria is the only woman that ever gets pregnant.

  6. StatesideAussie says:

    Fletch … yes, you are right about Firefox. I am cursed with having a bunch of different browsers because my job requires them (let’s not go *there*). My personal favorite is a little known one called Opera, because it has a great feature set that I have grown used to over many years and is blazing fast (a few seconds faster than Firefox loading a 400+ post thread from this site, using the same machine and connection). But it does have that quirk: it loads everything up, scrolls to my last position — and then zooms to the top. I didn’t realize that was a browser-specific quirk before. I tried Firefox (Mac/Win), IE (Win) and Safari (Mac), and they all behave as you said. So I will use Firefox for this site from now on, though as I said, it is a little slower to reload. Cheers!

  7. Heywood is Red says:

    I use Opera Mini as my phone browser. Faster than my T-Mobile one and uses less data

  8. Heywood is Red says:

    I use Opera Mini as my phone browser. Faster than my T-Mobile one and uses less data

  9. Heywood is Red says:

    Seems the Tevez excuse is going world wide. Robbie Fowler breaks his contract wi an aussie club then moves to Thailand. Apparently his new club are known as the Manchester United of their country, and use some of our chants amended to their club. Wanker

  10. StatesideAussie says:

    Heywood … I use Opera Mini too on my phone, but they have a full-size browser for PC and Mac too. A browser is one of those things that takes getting used to, and we all have our favorites. But I have used Opera since the mid 90s. But I will switch to Firefox for this site. But I still think it makes more sense to have the most recent comments first :-)

  11. FletchTHEMAN says:

    So lads, Are we actually playing for 2 trophies with Anders as our number 1?
    That’s what I call guts for glory.

    MLS all star game (v Beckham, Henry, etc)
    Audi Cup (v Barca etc)

  12. Louis says:

    Cant wait to welcome to OT our new orange wesley! :]

  13. StatesideAussie says:

    Clint … I don’t think that report has much credibility. It doesn’t quote any sources, not even anonymous ones. And Modric has made it pretty clear he wants to go to Chelsea. I also don’t believe Sneijder would choose Malaga over United. OK, so they’re owned by yet another rich sheik. They also finished 11th in the La Liga, aren’t within shouting distance of any silverware, and have a stadium that seats less than 29,000, and with the new financial rules coming in, will be limited in their ability to buy their way into . To be honest, it sounds like the sort of place a guy might go when he’s too old for the big clubs, has given up on the idea of actually winning stuff and just wants to rake in some dough before he toddles off into retirement. And Sneijder isn’t at that point yet, not by a long stretch. I can’t see any amount of money persuading a guy at the top of his game, as Sneijder is, to spend his prime years languishing in obscurity in the middle of the Primera Division.

  14. StatesideAussie says:

    … back to the browser wars … seems like Firefox also doesn’t scroll down when you actually submit a comment, instead of a plain refresh…

  15. willierednut says:


  16. willierednut says:

    Zibbie-First you insult us by saying abusive things now you expect us to be friends with you.I say you FUCK OFF.

  17. mattos says:

    i cant wait to watch sunderland v liverpool.. hope john and wes school the fucken scousers

  18. zino says:

    @stateside- i’m using a nokia 2700 with opera mini as well. To avoid scrolling, all you need to do is select ‘options’ and select ‘find in page’. You can type ur username there and it takes you directly to where ur name is mentioned on the page. You can press ‘next’ if your name is mentioned more than once@stateside- i’m using a nokia 2700 with opera mini as well. To avoid scrolling, all you need to do is select ‘options’ and select ‘find in page’. You can type ur username there and it takes you directly to where ur name is mentioned on the page. You can press ‘next’ if your name is mentioned more than once

  19. rohan19 says:

    @stateside aussie: why don’t you use rockmelt? it’ll display all articles in a tab on the right side of your window.. when tthere are new comments you can directly open them from the tab.. kind of eliminates the need to refresh..
    but i agree with you STR should make an ordered comments page

  20. pepsivoltron says:

    ive been reading all comments been a fantasticread o far…meanwhile i was going throughthe fixture list ..noticed there were no sundays fixtures? did i miss somthing ? or epl is only on saturdays this year? idiotic questions i know..

  21. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Good Morning ROM!

    Firstly, on the comments thing, I don’t think some people seem to be getting what Stateside is saying which is a very practical idea, but one that has never been used on blogs or forums that often. What he says is spot on, I follow this thread entirely and I only need to see the new comments that are posted whereas people who are new can read everything, only they have to go from down to up. For someone with limited bandwidth like smartalex, it makes more sense.

    If Scott is using WordPress, and by all means I have no reason to think otherwise, there are a few neat options in-built into the system. One is the request put in by Stateside which is to make newer comments appear first. The other is to have comments appear split into pages with the last numbered page being loaded by default and it holds the newest comments also. This is also a decent option but it will make it a pain in the ass for people new to a thread, so it is not really optimal. Both are readymade options in WordPress should Scott duly take note of the requests put forth in this thread.

    Also, I don’t know whether many of you have noticed, when you post a comment, the URL to that specific comment appears on the refresh. So, each time you refresh after that, the page will automatically come to your comment. Every comment in WordPress has a specific URL and you can automatically come to them by clicking on the date above each comment. This is how clicking the “Link” and “Comments” also works. The comments takes you to the URL for adding comments which is the same URL as the link with a #respond at the end. Don’t know how many know this, but just throwing it out there.

    On-topic, it feels good to know that our players are going to be as loved elsewhere as they were here. You could argue that every club loves its players, but we know this is not entirely true looking at the likes of Chelsea. So, to know that our players are at a club like Sunderland who are making changes with a forward-view like ours and have a manager who respects his players and have fans who love the players who put on their jersey alleviates the pain of losing them in the first place.

    Another thing to add, if Sneijder moves to Malaga, I will jump off my office which is in the fifth floor. No way that is happening as Stateside posted. He either stays at Inter or moves to us. Correct me if I’m wrong, but weren’t Chelsea in for him at one time.

    I don’t know, but doesn’t the entire summer feel strange to all you guys. We were linked with Modric, but he wants to stay in London and looks likely to go to Chelsea for all intents and purporses. We were linked with Nasri and reports have him with a more likely move to City than us. We are linked with Sneijder and nobody else is in for him. We have free rein to make a move. I don’t know but the entire summer just “feels” like one of Sir Alex’s masterstrokes to me. I just hope to God that I’m right.

  22. Besty07 says:

    pepsivoltron Just waiting on Sky sports and Espn to announce there live games for sunday`s.

  23. willierednut says:


    Two posts at 3.59 and 4.06 were not from me mate. Whoever it was, is trying to get me and Zibbie into some argument on here. They must have been aware, of the disagreements on here between Zibbie and some of the regulars.


    That wasn’t me. You have to take my word for it. Scott would be able to confirm, it wasn’t me. I was sound asleep lol.

  24. Zibbie says:

    @willierednut thanks, that is not your style dude.

  25. smartalex says:

    Seeing as this thread is on our ex-players, here’s an update on another:

    Harper Seven Beckham was born weighing 7 pounds and 10 ounces at approximately 7 a.m. The daughter’s middle name Seven represents good luck; it was also the time of day, month, and day of the week in which she was born. Seven was also Beckham’s jersey number when he played soccer for Manchester United and the English National Team.

  26. bobkoh says:

    If Wes & O’Shea both play & Sunderland beat L’pool, it will be good business, plus it will bring ‘pool down a notch as they seems to think ‘this is their year’ without actually saying it.

  27. smartalex says:

    Bruce said: “The versatility of John O’Shea is quite staggering. He has played right-back, centre-back, left-back and in midfield for Manchester United. Wes can also play in more than one role in the back four. Having players who are versatile is crucial at times when you do come up against injuries. We needed to give ourselves a bit of strength in depth and the Manchester United two have done that.”

  28. indiandevil says:

    The US tour Begins July 13th, New England Revolution v Man United at the Gillette Stadium followed by games against Seattle, Chicago, All star Team and finally the big one gainst Barcelona.

    Here’s a preview of the US Tour- Will the Fringe players make their mark?

  29. smartalex says:

    Sunderland manager Steve Bruce is expecting John O’Shea to be back in action shortly. The former Manchester United man was substituted against Arminia Bielefeld after tweaking a muscle and was replaced by Anton Ferdinand. Bruce, who is also without O’Shea’s former United team-mate Wes Brown, says he wasn’t about to take any risks in the second game of the pre-season schedule.
    “It is nothing to worry about,” Bruce said. “It’s a bit of strain and as it’s only pre-season we didn’t take any chances.”

    Entire article quoted here. Linked for info only.


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