April 8th 2011
1. Player: Steve Fletcher
Game: Bournemouth vs Peterborough
After being penalised for a foul, repeatedly said to the referee “you haven’t got a fucking clue.”
April 9th 2011
2. Player: Jermaine Beckford
Game: Wolves vs Everton
Time: 73 minutes
After being substituted, Beckford was clearly seen on the TV screen saying “fuck me” before continued swearing in a row with David Moyes.
April 9th 2011
3. Player: Peter Crouch
Game: Spurs vs Stoke
Time: 11 minutes
Crouch was clearly seen on the TV screen saying “fuck off” twice after scoring Spurs’ opening goal.
April 9th 2011
4. Player: Matthew Etherington
Game: Spurs vs Stoke
Repeatedly said “fucking useless” to the referee after he was fouled. Told the referee to “fuck off” when booked after 85 minutes.
To get in touch with the FA you must first register as a fan. Then you can contact them using this contact form.
Feel free to write your own message to the FA or copy and paste the message I sent below:
Wayne Rooney was recently charged with using “offensive, insulting and/or abusive language” and banned for two games.
Yesterday, in Everton’s game against Wolves, Jermaine Beckford was seen saying “f**k me” when he was substituted on 73 minutes.
I was wondering whether Beckford is going to be charged with using “offensive, insulting and/or abusive language” and banned for two games?
Just like Lee Mason didn’t see/hear Rooney swearing, I imagine Phil Dowd didn’t see Beckford swearing. But the benefit of video footage allowed Rooney to be charged so I was wondering whether video footage would be used to charge Beckford, to ensure that the Respect campaign is upheld.
Also, after putting Spurs ahead on 11 minutes, Crouch was seen saying “f**k off” twice in the direction of the crowd. Just like Mason didn’t see/hear Rooney swearing, I imagine Kevin Friend didn’t see Crouch swearing. But the benefit of video footage allowed Rooney to be charged so I was wondering whether video footage would be used to charge Crouch, again to ensure that the Respect campaign is upheld.
Your response on this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
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Crouch swearing after scoring a goal ??
when rooney did it he was an angry young man and he should be happy not angry
but crouch ?? no one said anything
Hey i’m a regular reader here but never really post comments, just here to say i’ve contacted those double standard cnuts and will be following your ‘swear watch’ to keep contacting them until they crack
besides sending to the FA, should we also sent it to the various press? well, at least the press could help put pressure on the FA. juz my 2 cents…
Also the Beckford incident was conveniently ‘missed’ by MOTD with not one comment regarding this matter made.
I love everything about swear watch, keep it up scott! Hopefully this gets linked on a few mainstream news sites.
DEVILisRED, I think it has been clearly established that the Press will never put pressure on the F.A. to get something “in favor of” Manchester United. But that is a good idea, at least we’ll get to see how much honest people are left in the English press.
Although I don’t have it in me to do the Swear Watch and watch every match to catch a hold of swearing. I will do the rightful thing as a United fan and follow ROM and whenever a Swear Watch is posted, I will send a mail to the F.A. and the Press.
Let’s see how much we can take this forward. If the population of Libya and Egypt can protest against the tyranny in their countries, then with a much larger worldwide population, the fans of Manchester United will protest against the tyranny and communism of the F.A. Let’s show to them how United we clearly are.
Press would never report it. Useless bunch that they are
*I meant to say how “many” honest. Screw myself and the web!
Did my part and feel proud of it
message sent with a little bit extra added, didnt like that i had to register as a ‘FAN’ to send it tho
Sent it… Hopefully the FA will be barraged with hordes of angry Mancunians with the same message – WE WANT FAIRNESS!
Bloody low life scums.They need us to register as fans.Talk about over inflated egos.Anyways have done my part.This is a great idea by the way.About time we fought back.Also saw a couple of other sites running their own swear watch.This shit is taking off.The FA fucked up big time.
send my part already.
Sent my part too. I doubt the FA will even acknowledge any of this but it will be nice to keep their staff busy rather than just banning United players and picking up an easy wage.
Done again, we should run a book on who gets caught today, my moneys on Wilshere
Great stuff, Scott. Well done, and keep it up.
Yeah, they’ll get banned when Mike Phelan grows a full head of hair.
Great stuff Scott.
NICE NICE JOB Scott.
And let the worms out.
“What ? Fucking what ?”
Kenny Dalglish – FA should get their own house in order before punishing Rooney.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1375248/Kenny-Dalglish-The-FA-house-order-dishing-punishment.html
It might be advisable if you take the main body of Scotts missive and edit it so that it looks like each person has out it together, if we don’t I feel they will dismiss it as embittered UTD fans launching a campaign and ignoring it depsite the validity of the evidence presented.
just did my bit…
Done, sent off to FA with demand for equal punishment. I couldn’t resist to add that my grandchildren were as offended as I was by the “industrial language”. I also agree completely with Mattbw7 (actually did that before reading his admonition).
Just read the Dalgliesh article, he could have easily made capital out of the whole thing probably because he realises one of his players will fall foul of the rules as they are human also.
It wasnt an admonition, you make me sound like my old headmaster
Sent my part. Also included a comment that it was unfair that we are going to all the expense of going to Wembley and we are missing seeing him in action (and potential shin-tillating goals), not due to injury but due to the FAs unprecedented and excessive punishment.
Hope we get a response, it would be great to see how they worm out of not charging players for doing exactly the same thing!
Folks, maybe it would be better to treat every single swear watch incident individually with regards to contacting the FA. For instance yesterday we have two examples of these awful young men using foul language. Rather than send one email covering both, send two emails, one for each “infringement”.
If two hundred people write to the FA, that’s two hundred emails if we group them together. If two hundred send emails about each incident individually then it’s four hundred emails. The more grief we can give them here the better.
If I was lucky enough to be able to afford a season ticket, I’d be making a huge “F.A. = Fabricated Adjudicators” banner for match day.
I’m tempted to get that put on a t-shirt.
Sent it in just now told them it offended both my children which is funny as at the moment my two children are just a twinkle in each eye. Reworded it as well, the amount of people who visit this blog everyone should do it. If you can vent your frustrations here do it to the FA.
Also Whats German and plays in goal for l’arse?
dear sir/madam after recently giving wayne rooney a 2 match ban for swearing although the ref didn’t see it the fa decided to use video footage as evidence in imposing the ban.
well yesterday two players can clearly be seen using the ‘f’ word caught on camera.jermaine beckford for everton in the 73rd minute and peter crouch in the 11min after scoring.
i look forward in the fa taking swift action in these matters and imposing bans asap or it could be assumed for whatever reason the fa is targeting manchester united unfairly.
i understand david bernstein a ex manchester city board member is the chairman of the fa,it would seem to me the wayne rooney ban is very advantageous to manchester city reaching the fa cup final a team he’s supported as a boy and has deep ties with.
i’m sure the fa wants to be seen as a fair rather than a morally corrupt organiseation,i look forward in reading the announements of the two bans this week
sincerely
w.barker
Crouch was screaming FUCK OFF and pointing to the crowd, so clearly directing it at someone! No apology from him either! Did anyone else notice Phil Neville say “Sod it” in his interview on MotD. When it cut back to Lineker in the studio he said “He doesn’t score very often so we’ll forgive his little indescretion there” or words to that affect!! Now I know the word Sod isn’t as bad as Fuck, however, if it requires forgiveness from a BBC pundit, they obviously deem it inappropriate! Double standards BBC!!
not looking good right now for the youngsters 2-0 down to rent boy juniors, hoping we can come back in the second half
Dear FA, just a thought while you appear to have grown a pair of hairy danglers and punished naughty players for bad words and made one sit on the naughty step for a bit, have you made the naughty step big enough cos it might happen again. Also while you’re doing your best to take a strong line and sort out the major issues facing the game could you also now sack Capello( while you’re feeling brave), no on 2nd thoughts keep in him place because he’s the biggest example of what a useless not fit for purpose organisation you are, I hope the Wembley debt makes you go bust and are replaced with people who actually know what a game of football is.
All said without swearing.
Your sincerely
The red 3/4s of Manchester.
Bloody hell, Kenny in sensible words about a United player shocker. He makes a bloody good point there about it not being possible for them both to be telling the truth. Regardless of what I think of him, and no doubt the rest of us on here, he made a good point.
Check those two mugshots out too, clearly a pair of cunts that are completely out of touch with reality.
“I didn’t sign him”
“I didn’t sign him either”
“well one of you did”
“not me”
“not me either”
Fucking twunts. This is two top men in our game talking about the manager of our national team. Is there any wonder things are such a mess and we’re being lied to and persecuted when wankers like this and City supporters make the decisions?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL BAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Nice work Scott but *ehem*. Our Captain also uttered a few *ahem* choice words LOL..
Done. Keep this up. Lets see the FA crumble down to pieces.
Mes i agree with you. Why can’t ANYONE own up to giving Capello the contract? It had to be at least ONE of you two. If he wins the World cup they’ll all come out and start claiming they believed in him and gave him the contract. STUPID AIRHEADS. can’t even think straight. SMH. just admit it but no that is the fabric of the Communist FA.
LOL @ good old Jens asking the ref to “protect pensioners in the box”. Not laughing because he made a good joke, cos it was shite. Laughing cos I hope he gets battered.
I both play and watch football daily. When playing and spectating my language may be deemed offensive on occasions. I personally am not proud of this as I do agree it sets a bad example. However I do accept this will always happen. These words that are deemed offensive are used in every day life and are hard to get away from. Whilst watching the premier league highlights show this morning, I saw Peter Crouch of Tottenham Hotspur using this very language. It were very clear and were caught on camera. So I now ask given the light of recent events regarding the respect campaign, will the FA be investigating this? In my eyes there is no difference between being caught on camera gesturing these offensive words to that of approaching a camera with the same gestures. I’m sure most would agree. Its like career threatening challenges, the players intentions whether it be deemed deliberate or not should not come into play when being punished. The challenge is what it is………career threatening and should be punished accordingly. PLease could you respond with any steps you may or may not be taking regarding the Peter Crouch gestures. Many Thanks,
That were my effort anyway……UTID
I sent my concerns to the FA. I told them that I assumed that they would probably not be happy letting a BBC pundit make huge decisions like “Forgiving” Phil Neville for using abusive language “Because he doesn’t score many” and that they would probably want to look into it with immediate affect and take appropriate action, as myself and my family were deeply offended and are not willing to accept Mr Linekers apology.
Lee Mason in action right now. Expecting to see players get sent off.
Ian Evatt blackpool bs arsenal 3.40 mins… Missed a header, “fuck, fuck”
Anyone know if Beckford’s and Crouch’s swear-words were actually audible on TV? I didn’t see the matches. If they weren’t audible, the FA will probably use that as an “out” — that without audible evidence, there must be benefit of the doubt about what the players actually said.
Anyway, I’m going to register and complain later today, as soon as I get home, but just curious about whether they were audible or not.
Don’t you that only United players are not allowed to swear?A united player will soon be banned for wear two different boots on or two different gloves.
That’s Blackpool done then.
Fuck Blackpool
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1375273/Patrick-Collins-Arrogance-isnt-confined-pitch-Sir-Alex.html
have a look at this Collins son of a bitch..
he thinks our master mind is old and lost the touch…
what the fuck is these ABU cunts problems?
every word said by SAF is right..
will Payne or any fucking police officer for wolves fans abusive chants in the stadium?
or is stadium not a public place?
fuck this dick head collins, i wonder how these pimps become reporters or wateva fuck they are..
Sorry, to be fair these examples and future ones like them are clutching at straws. True, players and managers have always been caught swearing on camera, they swear at the crowd, at the heavens, at each other, even referees can be seen saying “fuck off” to players these days BUT NOBODY swears directly at the HOME AUDIENCE. Supporters pie in hand can’t complain if they hear industrial language at a football ground but they CAN complain if its beamed LIVE into their living room directed at them. NOT EVERY TV IS LOCATED IN A PUB so im sure many sky subscribers were genuinely offended at the sight of Rooney looking them in the eye and losing his rag. He’s an ugly fucker at the best of times!
For what its worth I ENJOYED his celebration of a wonderful hat trick but FFS you cant swear AT THE VIEWERS and expect to be treated routinely. Being caught swearing unaware is one thing but intentionally ranting down a camera broadcast to Millions is another. Im still glad he did it, he owed us those 3 goals, he owed us the form he is now hitting, and he owed us that passionate celebration, but if you can’t do the time and all that… So good luck with the Swear Watch but truth is you’ll be hard pressed to “spot” a player squaring up to a camera lens menacingly shouting out WHAT??? FUCKING WHAT??? Players like that don’t come around often.
Patrick Collins not hanging on to his job, much!!!
I`ve just submitted it
Sandeep, in fact, language used by fans at a stadium is covered. It is covered by the FA’s own rules, in the FA Handbook: “Each affiliated Association, Competition and Club shall be responsible for ensuring that its directors, players, officials, employees, servants, representatives, spectators, and all persons purporting to be its supporters or followers, conduct themselves in an orderly fashion and refrain from any one or combination of the following: racist, violent, threatening, abusive, obscene or provocative behaviour, conduct or language whilst attending at or taking part in a Match in which it is involved, whether on its own ground or elsewhere.”
Personally, I hope it never gets that far, since I’d hate to see English football end up like American baseball, where apparently the only thing fans are allowed to “sing” is the basic chant of “Let’s go Angels” (or name your favorite team). If you haven’t heard this, then I can tell you it is the most insanely boring thing you could possibly hear at any sports match, but it is just about the only thing you will ever hear at a baseball match.
What??? He cant be charged for specifically swearing directly at the camera as there is no rule about that he can only charged with using offensive, insulting and/or abusive language and the reason for contacting the FA is to point out thier hypocrisy, 10 out of 10 for you for missing the fucking point!!!
Why is FA HQ shut on a Sunday…02077454545,lazy fuckin` so so`s lol
great response from the lads but just fell short losing 2-3 to the rent jrs
Foolish Actions Prove There’s Corruption In The FA
http://www.theunitedreligion.com/2011/04/foolish-actions-prove-theres-corruption.html
Get in!!!
COME ON BLACKPOOL
done
1 back for blackpool, not over yet.
so Lehman could have been sent off, and the ref has turned down what sky say to be two legitimate pen shouts for blackpool too?
On the topic of swearing on prime time tv
Harry Redknapp Wheeler Dealer interview, No punishment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBsI7RAuvk
Fergie Bollocks interview, No punishment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1r1av1Shn4
christ even the simpsons has swear words in it these days
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkMfOjf5w88
Mattbw7 says:
What??? He cant be charged for specifically swearing directly at the camera as there is no rule about that he can only charged with using offensive, insulting and/or abusive language and the reason for contacting the FA is to point out thier hypocrisy, 10 out of 10 for you for missing the fucking point!!!
Easy Tiger, I know there is no rule for the specific charge of swearing at the camera and thats understandable. How many players have YOU ever seen do what Rooney did? Your missing my point, im saying the comparison of Beckford and Crouch to Rooney is clutching at straws. Did anybody have to start a swear campaign to “spot” what Rooney did? Did people have to rewind footage and freeze frames, draw diagrams and read lips to grasp what Rooney said?
HOW THE FUCK is swearing when your subbed (Beckford) or when you score (Crouch) the same as Rooney swearing at the views at home? Come on FFS, these are blink and you’ll miss them examples. If I’ve got to be on the look out reading a players lips to be offended its not in the same league as Rooney at Upton Park is it? THATS MY POINT. FA hypocrisy is self evident, but crying every time a player says a “naughty word” is clutching at fucking straws mate. Worse, to demand all players seen swearing should be banned for two games just because of what Rooney did is fucking bitter. Some twats even reckon Neville saying Sod on the BBC should result in a ban, but its not like Phil turned to the BBC camera, looked the viewer dead in the eye and began a rant with the words “you sodding supporters….” All of this is great for a siege mentality, and YES the FA are obviously corrupt cunts, but Rooney is no martyr in all of this, thats my point.
no card for Lehman, no pen on Koscielny. Come on Blackpool!
what happens if lehman gets sent off, can arsenal get an emergency keeper to come in to cover their emergency keeper?
57th minute blackpool arsenal charlie adam fouled stands up and screams Aye fucking hell camera flashed straight off him soon as he said it
Done!
Keep up the good work boys!!
@ WHAT??? Either get behind us or shut up. Plain and simple, don’t slate people who are fed up of our beloved club being made scapegoats. It may be clutching at straws but so has this entire fiasco to suit the FA and more specifically that cunt Bernstein and his bitter club. We probably won’t get anywhere but theres no shame in going out there and getting your ass kicked theres no honour in doing nothing at all.
Im watching Holloway and his players swearing on my television right now. Its just my opinion, but emailing the FA asap to grass them all up is clutching at fucking straws.
IF DJ CAMPBELL SCORES AN EQUALISER RIGHT NOW, RUNS TO THE CAMERA, HOLDS UP TWO FINGERS LIKE A GUN AND SAYS “WHAT??? FUCKING WHAT???” THEN I’LL UNDERSTAND
but until then, it all seems a bit petty really. Rooney was singled out because he singled out viewers. Like I said I loved every sordid second of it, but im not gonna cry about his 2 match ban. When John Terry does EXACTLY the same thing and doesn’t get a 2 game ban I’ll march on the FA pitch fork in hand like everybody else but until then….. IM LISTENING right now the crowd are singing YOU FAT BASTARD to Reid, should Blackpools next match be behind closed doors? Bollocks. Industrial Language is part of the game but there has to be a line, and wherever that line is, ROONEY CLEARLY CROSSED IT.
What??? again you are missing the point the FA cannot charge and ban any player for specifically swearing at a camera they can only charge him under the general rule as pointed out above and thus why you are encouraged to write to the FA, go to the FA’s website download the rules. Its clear you’re not getting it, so this is the last time I’m going to repeat this ffs!!!
Done
done
@WHAT???
one word…….SIMPLES!!
Ive try to do my part here.
The reason FA is slapping the ban on Rooney is to get even with Ferguson. They’ve been on Fergies throat for a long time now and the classical white phone was the insult of FA from Fergies side they must think. Still a scam Rooney has to pay the price for the FA vendetta on the greatest manager on earth.
lol billybowlegs, it aint hard is it
Has no-one worked this out yet? The cameraman shoves the lens in Rooney’s face and says “kiss the camera like Stevie Me did”. So what do you think Rooney’s response is going to be?? “What, Fucking What” QED
Joey Barton
22 min to ref
Fuck off
barton just said ”fuck off” to the ref, after fouling ashley young in the 23 minute…
Joey Barton 22:50 swears at the ref very angrily.
scott, you should make ”swear watch” a permanent part of this blog. so we could send other players swearing during a whole season. and then see how many players got away with it during a season.
keep up the good work!
Rooney’s swearing was not directed at anyone in particular, just generally sounding off, letting off steam in the presence of the camera. That’s no different than what Beckford or Crouch did yesterday, which equally come under the rules under which Rooney was charged. There’s nothing in the rules which specifies that what Rooney did merits his unusual punishment, so all these other transgressions have to be covered in the same way, or it really is ‘one rule for Rooney (United), another for everyone else’. That’s what Gary Neville is saying, the FA have made a rod for their own backs in their determination to ‘get’ Rooney. Every week it’s going to be double standards.
Meanwhile, where’s the ongoing outrage at Carragher for his studs-up, career- threatening lunge at Nani ? Where’s the media campaign for the FA to ‘crack down on’ Essien for his two-footed , studs-up tackle last weekend? When Rooney elbowed McCarthy (arguably in self defence) the media never let up on it for over five weeks, with some papers, such as the Guardian, mentioning it on a nearly daily basis, coming back to the subject when discussing the swearing incident, mounting a wider case against Rooney that he was somehow, ‘out of control’ and in need of disciplining. I would argue that Carragher, who similarly ‘did’ Nani last season is the one who needs an exemplary sentence to send the message to footballers in general, and children who may be watching, that his sort of reckless endangerment of fellow players is absolutely unacceptable, at any level of the game. Serious fouling like that is to my mind far more serious than bad language of a kind that has become acceptable at all levels of society in a way that was simply not accepted even twenty years ago. If there is widespread public concern over bad language, and people want to rein it in somewhat, then have some sort of policy statement in advance, with clear penalties, so everyone is clear about it. It is very unfair to single out one player for punishment but then ignore very similar examples of the same bad language elsewhere.
petty fuckers….now they are askin` for trouble….I`m sure Waynes really pissed off…..
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/77515,people,news,sky-tv-ditches-wayne-rooney-show-as-his-popularity-sinks?amp
Joey Barton told the ref to fuck off. Respect? My Arse!!!!
@Giles Oakley: Surely not Carragher, the archetypal english gentlemen? It’s not as if Carragher has ever been arrested for assault, spat at fans, threw coins at fans, deliberately injured his own team mate or called his own team mate a “soft cunt” is it? Nani on the other hand, cried on the pitch like a poofter and gets injured by tackles too frequently, what a little foreign scumbag!
And Rooney should know that swearing is against the law and second only to child molestation in terms of the harm it does to the nation. It’s not as if any of our national treasures like david attenborough or stephen fry have ever swore a single time in their life. And certainly an American diplomat never described Prince Andrew as “foul-mouthed”. If Rooney had instead shouted “I hope all the children watching get AIDS and die”, it would be just fine because it doesn’t include those deplorable evil swear words.
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Easily the most entertaining part of my day so far.
Didn’t VDS use “offensive language” in Moscow? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY_AGlAqcm0
One can easily argue Rooney crossed the line, but what did he do that seperates him from the rest, leaving him banned and not the other 15 lads swearing on a regular PL Saturday? I´m no fan of foul language, but WHAT, FUCKING WHAT?
And that, my friends, is what pisses me off.
Mattbw7 – The ban was for offensive, insulting and / or abusive language, and the FA have already stated that players swearing at a missed goal, or after scoring a goal, will not be considered a breach of this rule. Cunts though they are, the FA acknowledges industrial language is part of the game and will inevitably be caught on one of the many cameras inside the stadium, but when a player intentionally swears INTO a camera, eyes wide and nostrils flaring, THAT is indefensibly Offensive.
MEANING YOU CAN’T DEFEND IT.
If Rooney directed his anger at the West Ham faithful INSTEAD OF MILLIONS OF VIEWERS he wouldn’t of been banned for 2 games. When Adebayor ran the length of the pitch to piss off Arsenal supporters he was up for an improper conduct charge. He already had a 3 match ban for studding VP in the face and was facing a further 2 match ban for his celebration, but he escaped the second charge because the FA said he was “provoked” by supporters. Needless to say, IF ADEBAYOR RAN UP TO THE CAMERA INSTEAD OF THE CROWD AFTER SCORING SO HE COULD SAY A BIG “FUCK YOU” TO ALL THE ARSENAL FANS AT HOME he would’ve received that 2 match ban and probably worse. Rooney could have been defended for screaming BLUE MURDER at the West Ham crowd, but who here can seriously defend him swearing into a Live Camera? I laughed my head off, but I accepted he’d get banned for it.
Thats my opinion and my Point. Does it mean I don’t think the FA are utter Cunts? Of course not, but Swear Watching seems very very petty. You’d be better off MANAGER watching, and asking why Alex was banned when Mancini and Co aren’t.
NotoriousRedDevil – Either get behind you or shut up? Im not a lemming mate. Hilarious. Listen you can email whoever you want, but the fact is more players than Beckford and Crouch swore yesterday. Swearing is caught on camera all the time, but what you WONT see is players intentionally swearing into the Camera eye to eye with the viewer. Thats the factor people want to ignore. What other player (in England) has randomly shouted anything like “WHAT??? FUCKING WHAT???” into a live camera? Thats why people are wearing his words on T-Shirts, its BEYOND THE FUCKING PALE mate. I enjoyed it, but I can also admit its indefensible for ANY player to swear into the camera whenever they feel like it.
Besides, shouldn’t we launch a campaign for the blameless Alex Ferguson? Unlike Rooney HIS ban was completely BOLLOCKS as other managers have said far worse about match officials and continue to say far worse today? THATS a worthy cause, because Alex was unfairly singled out. Rooney hasn’t been singled out, how can he be? What other player has randomly shouted out “WHAT??? FUCKING WHAT???” into a live camera?
@stateside aussie..
thnx for the enlightenment mate..
yeah even i do not want these bloody restrictions coz as the RedNev said, one should not take the emotions and passion out of the game..
i do understand your point of view and your knowledge depth on football and rules and regs of FA..
all i meant is, if FA wants to upheld their respect campaign, they should clean up the game from the roots and it will never happen and it should not happen..
swearing is quite common, these ABU cunts make us think like paranoids at times..
there goes some fucking legend school boy gerrard showing his middle finger to the ref, there goes our wayne swearing at no one – its a no brainer, the one who humiliates FA and its dependents deosnt get punished and the one who doeswnt even come close to humiliating FA gets a 2 game ban..
bloody mothafuckers..
in SAF we trust, we are UNITED in such crisis, this aint the 1st time and this wont be last of we getting a different treatment from FA..
all i need is 19 reds and then we can watch the cry babies licking their wounds that make them guilty..
SAF is always right, his post match comments were nailed on FA and how badly they are trying to stop UTD in whatever way possible..
i m glad that, a mastermind manager, ever faithful supporters, brotherhood of players will take us above all even if it meant the obstacle of the highest order..
THIS IS THE BEST EVER MAN UTD BLOG, THE STR AND CO HAVE TREMENDOUS KNOWLEDGE BASE WHICH IS EVER GREEN LIKE OUR RYAN, AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE RED BABES AROUND THE WOLRD..
OLD TRAFFORD IS MY HEAVEN, TAKE ME HOME…
THNX FOR SUCH A WONDERFUL BLOG AND BLOGGERS, REDS WILL NEVER DIE
GGMU..BEL19VE
What??? I have not argued a defence for Rooney all I have said is there is only the rule for using offensive, insulting and/or abusive language and on that basis Scott and the rest us are justifed in notifying the FA when other players breach that rule. There I’ve repeated myself again.
One more thing just because you put things in capitals it does’t make your point any more valid.
IS telling the crowd to f*ck off, as Crouch did, not incitment?
Cut and pasted from yesterday just for the sake of some amusement
Breaking News
Harry Redknapp interview
‘Arry were you interested in signing Rio last summer?
Well Jeff it’s like this you know what I mean? We thought we needed a defender – the chairman came to me and he said what do you think?
I said to him plain and simple I said listen to me chairman why can’t we get the Range Rover instead?
And you know Jeff he was honest with me he said I needed to sell Bale for 320 million and then maybe we might have had a chance with the Range Rover over the defender but that was out of the question Jeff, I mean come on I’m not going to sell my best player for 320 million am I just to get a Rio in am I ?
So we looked around we thought about it and you what Jeff I thought maybe the Range Rover is out of the question so the defender will do, but then I was told that the Rio was out of question because blimey Jeff it was from Kia bloody motors and I’m not an idiot Jeff I’m not having that bloody idiot at my club doing a dodgy deal like Tevez and Mascherano – so I thought well you know Jeff, I thought Id get Van Der Vaart instead
Harry what the fuck are you on about?
Blimey Jeff there you go again swearing again!
MattBw7 – you last post to me was well considered, shame you spoiled it at the end by being petty aye? The fact is I CAN USE CAPS IF I WANT, as can anybody, its a fucking blog pal, you shouldn’t allow it to have any bearing on whats being discussed. Theres a good lad.
- Giles Oakley, that was a thoughtful insight.
WIth the elbow incident Rooney obviously wasn’t charged, and neither was Carragher for his incident, but the Media still endeavoured to crucify us over both issues, first via vilifying Rooney for a common foul, and secondly by all but suggesting Nani deserved to be fouled because xyz. But from where im sitting Rooney’s current ban is different, namely the FA had no choice but to ban him.
Unlike the media reaction, I don’t think the Ban was due to a witch hunt. It could have been Ryan Giggs for all I care, seeking out a camera and swearing directly into it HAS to be an example of offensive, insulting and / or abusive language. If THAT isn’t an example of breaching this oft quoted rule, then what exactly is? A player muttering FFS when his team-mate delivers a poor cross? A manager jumping up and down on the line screaming FFS at a poor decision? The FA has already said these instances will not become offences, because the existing rules haven’t been changed for Rooney’s actions. Tellingly, the only way we can test this assertion is when another player runs up to a camera, swears into it, and escapes being banned for 2 games. Can’t see that happening any time soon mate.
The Media and the FA all have it in for United, thats obvious, but I’d sooner point to the treatment of Sir Alex Ferguson than Wayne Rooney as evidence for it. Before we can describe Wayne as being singled out for swearing, surely there needs to be OTHER examples of players doing the same thing and not being punished? At least ONE example of it? I don’t think I’ll see a player do what Rooney did for the next 10 years. That was a one off. I understand it completely, and I salute him for it, but by definition most Martyrs are willing and therefore don’t warrant pitty. Yeah Rooney’s a Martyr and he asked for it! His performance gave the club a lift was worth the 2 game ban, and the media reaction (inc the police ffs) has clearly been over the top, but I just don’t feel the ban itself was unwarranted. If any player looks the public in the eye down a live camera and aggressively swears, they deserve whatever ban they receive. Just a differing opinion on the greatest United Blog.
What??? The pettiness is you using captials in an attempt to make your point more forcefully, why not just rely on the quality of your argument, my last post to you was the same in terms of its meaning as my first, it just took a while for it sink in for you , did you you hear a metallic clang, it was the sound of a penny dropping!!!
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While I’m on my soap box, you say you use caps if you want cos its a blog, well surely the inverse is also true in that I can criticise your use of them, funny thing this free speech, (thats me being a good lad)
Tell the cunts Mani….after all,it is the fuckin` “Scum” newspaper(???)
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/77422,people,entertainment,please-fuck-off-mani-denies-stone-roses-reunion
Scott you are what they call a legend
so this is was bloody brooking has to say..
http://www.espnstar.com/football/premier-league/news/detail/item607849/%22Wayne-Rooney-ban-was-right%22/
“From the referees’ point of view they have got to understand what that means and then hopefully over a period of time when you see the Football League spokesman or FA spokesman and they are all saying different things, which you’ve just portrayed, that hopefully should be something from the past next season.”
i dont know whether u guys respect him or not but what the fuck is he talking?
from the refs point of view they go to understand,
Mr Brooking, they got to understand, FA will call u while u are on the back home after submitting the match report and they will ask you to come back for some emergency and the emergency is to alter ur report such that UTD can be punishable..
first these cunts should stop altering the match reports and then crib..
the fuckers are insane, they shud be drugged and drowned to death..
these ignorant bitches cant see the press saying ref was put under pressure by FA..
all they see is UTD, our success and a certain ever green limelight Wayne Rooney..
they hate us and they want us stop succeeding, by hook or crook, perhaps the pimps dont realise that UTD is built on team performances,
the more i read about Rooney, the more sick and abusive i m..
this is the most ridicolous thing to have happened in football..
pure double standrads pimps on Roman pay roll…
SAF will show them again, be it media or be it winning or be it support or be it anything – Nobody is
greater than UTD and nobody can overhaul us..
and all u fucking 5 finger slaute scouse shits, just wait, we will beat that too, we wont rest until that..
Great work by STR on swear watch, this is the attitude and character of a red devil, who wants to
contribute for the club,s cause irrespective of its small or big impact…
way to go lads, we are the winners even when we are being hated..
WE WILL RISE FROM THESE ASHES AND GO MIKE TYSON ON THESE BASTARDS..
GGMU
GGMU
sorry for the looooooooooooooooooong post..
i m getting carried becoz of what SAF and ROONEY got from FA..
everytime they hear UTD, their next tick is BAN FOR 2 GAMES AND 5 GAMES…
@Sandeep1878
well said,couldn`t put it better myself,FUCK the lot of them….bunch of cunts.
- Mattbw7, you know what mate, you coming out the blue saying I’d “missed the fucking point” got our wires crossed Pal. I do “get” the FA believe me. Thing is, even without the Refs report the FA can still ban Rooney for improper Conduct, its a separate offence that applies on and off the pitch. The Ref didn’t even book Robbie Fowler for snorting the goal line because imaginary cocaine sniffing isn’t a bookable offence – its a matter for the FA. That got him banned for 5 games, but completely opposite, the FA banned Cesc Fabregas for two games just for stepping onto a pitch AFTER the final whistle went. The Ref literally couldn’t send him off for that, but the FA looked at it afterwards and banned him. The Commission have the final say on all player misconduct, it could be for an act during a match or a tweet posted on twitter. Based on previous bans, Wayne was facing punishment the moment he fixed his eyes on that Lens. That was certainly all the ammo ONE Bitter Cunt needed to take a cheap shot and ensure he was Banned him, with that smug Mancini quick to gloat about it.
But im not worried about Rooney, I do get the point im just a lot more pissed at the BAN served by the SIR and the Piss take Press response. In hindsight I think you’d agree CAPS were in order on this topic mate?
An on-form Rooney can ban himself letting off steam all he wants for all I care, throw him a GRANNY if it makes him happy!! He wouldn’t have played Fulham anyway so who cares? And its Justice he won’t face City its time to prove once again no player is bigger than a United starting 11. That FACHT won’t be lost on our Squad against City either. But we can agree to disagree mate! I do doubt very much Scott the Red takes my humble opinion on the Emails offensively, he does run a quality informative site with varied input after all. Personally I just don’t wanna ask the FA to ban players for merely saying the word FUCK… if anything the FA should FINE SKY for broadcasting Rooney’s outburst. They already run a time delay and employ highly paid technicians to manage it, so punish THEM instead of scapegoating Rooney. But fortunately for us Alex foresaw trouble at this stage of this season in particular. There was no fixed glare in his “improper” statement, no offensive words, nothing, yet he was banned for 5 games! FA Fuckry at its Finest! In Europe you can give a man a Glasgow Kiss and get less. But the FA’s been taking the piss Years before Rooney shot his load across the world. So having said that I honestly doubt very much the Old Scot gives a TOSS about the FA. He’s just raising the Old Trafford Draw Bridge for Cup, the Title and Europe. Its all War Games with the FA and the Press, what a Legend Alex is, aye??? [End Rant]
What? That’s just it though pal. The fucking silly cunts with camera s don’t follow crouch and no marks like beckford. Rooney didn’t seek the camera as you put it , the camera seeked him out and went into his face. Swearing is fucking swearing and cunts like barton and freeeaak ahould also be bought to task. When exactly did the fa say they won’t charge for swearing after a goal? First I heard. Anyway that’s exactly what wayne did. The fa bastards make rules up just for united.
sent.
personally, i would prefer filing a formal complain but that would have required me to mail a formal letter to the FA all the way from Malaysia.
anyway, asked my friends to join this cause.
King Eric – The FA have basically out done/fucked themselves on this issue. They could’ve avoided this whole headache and just banned him under Improper Conduct rules. That offence is so broad nearly anything can be considered Improper Conduct by the FA whether it happens on or off the pitch. Like I said Fabregas got banned for 2 domestic games just for walking on the pitch, that was “Improper Conduct” according to the FA. I actually thought it was funny at the time.
I get why people are upset Rooney was banned for “offensive language”, but like all governing bodies the FA doesn’t state what “offensive language” actually is, so the goal posts can always be moved to serve their interests. To answer your question, I’ve just been reading what a few Journo’s have said (like Ian Herbert – FA changed the rules in order to get at Rooney, says furious Ferguson/Paul Wilson – Sir Alex Ferguson’s better half knew better than Wayne Rooney) Reading between the ABU lines, the press seem to be suggesting the Official stance on the rule is unchanged. Being the FA they’ll probably announce new “guidelines” for interpretation in the summer (to dampen our celebrations no doubt) and basically pick and choose what is and isn’t “offensive” then. But for certain we are being heavily targeted this year because its the 19th.
Its funny yet sad the Police had something to say on it as well. Like the FA, the law of the land doesn’t specifically define what “offensive language” is either, so they’re right saying Rooney COULD have been locked up for swearing. When the police want to take somebody into custody they can and do arrest people for offensive language, it happens, its just a question of CAN the officer be bothered with the paper work. The Police can selectively quote all kinds of laws if they want you “done”, and if they also have all kinds of “guidelines” that justify turning a blind eye at their discretion too. Its not FAIR but it certainly is the law. So sadly, that Cunt (the Copper) was actually correct, if the police wanted to arrest Rooney on a Saturday night for swearing in public they could easily do so without a problem under more than one existing Law. We also know the police can let influential people off the hook as well.
The FA aren’t much different mate, they do “police” the sport after all. The rules of the Game are vague enough for them to issue “guidelines” retrospectively stating “any language intended to offend television viewers is offensive”. From what Trevor Brooking has said thats what will probably happen this summer. Swearing when you score or miss will still be okay but swearing at a camera specifically won’t be. The End. Supporters and Fans are pissed off the FA don’t have a specific rule for that, but thats intentional, the FA don’t NEED a specific rule. The current one is vague enough for them to “create” new interpretations and make it up as they go along mate. Failing all that, they can just BAN players for Improper Conduct (whatever THAT is). Eitherway the FA got it covered, thats why they Banned Ferguson 5 games for speaking out about the Referees. Its designed so they can make it up as they go along.
Scott, did you see(or any of you) that twat Patrick Barclay on ‘The Sunday Supplement’?
That interview you did with Oliver Holt obviously worked a treat! Oliver holt basically made him look the biggest cunt going! If you haven’t seen it it’s well worth a watch mate – in fact all should witness it!
“Why do these young players have to be so angry with the world? I don’t know why. They are getting hundreds of thousands of pounds a week.”
“I respect him as a player but he is a silly boy for what he did and he shouldn’t have done it.”
Ain’t that what you were saying Harry?
Chelsea game now guys, upwards and onwards!
Here’s a piece on top 5 European nights at OT :
http://www.thehardtackle.com/index.php/high-five-european-nights-at-old-trafford/#
the rule does not say that the swearing is not allowed during the game , it says, i think, that the players must not swear directly at the camera
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Spot on – the twats at the FA make it up as they want.
But wtf do they persist in reinventing The Spanish Inquisition just for United.
George Orwell and Kipling would have a field day.
One thing they keep forgetting – we have SAF (from Govan)- we have The Force (from Star Wars)- WE ARE MANCHESTER UNITED (from Manchester)
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