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“I know that I am not going to continue at Manchester United,” said Tevez. “I feel that they have lacked respect towards me. It’s not about whether they pay £5million more or £5million less, but I feel I have been badly treated. There are ways in which the club is managed that I don’t understand. When you don’t agree with the manager in how the club is run… I don’t have faith in a lot of things that happen here. I’ve been here for two years and the directors have never come to speak to me. Not once have I had a meeting with them. Therefore, it’s best that I leave the club so as not to clash with [manager] Alex Ferguson and the directors. Neither do I understand why I don’t play in the team. I’ve asked Kia not to speak to me about offers during the next 10 days. I want to concentrate only on the final matches that we have to play. Afterwards, I’ve got a month to take a decision and choose where to go.”
I’m sorry to hear that Gabriel, sorry, I mean Carlitos.
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Makes me sick to read that on the day we won the title…I finally think he needs to go.
Bluminheck, you’re up late Scott!
How can you compare him to heinze? Tevez hasn’t even reached his peak yet and heinze is washed up.
I also don’t understand how people are so unsympathetic about his situation. Fans want to address every issue like it’s black or white, but just as in life football is not that way.
Obviously we don’t know the inner workings of the club, buy from my view of afar Tevez is justified in his feelings. This year he has not been given a fair shake, fergie didn’t play him in order to lower his value. Also no matter what he or berba did, fergie always preferred berba.
Even in the midst of all this he still played every possession like it was his last. Tevez isn’t your cup of tea? Fair enough, but please don’t slag him off because he felt disrespected.
Disrespect? When we know which way he’s heading we’ll also know which way the disrespect runs.
I’d prefer to see him remain at United, but wonder how we’ll react if he heads down the A580.
what the hell does it matter if he never sees the directors? Hes just making up excuses for his leaving to hide the real reason. If he was such a combative and professional player, why not fight for your place in the team?
And MJ, Heinze did the same thing when Evra came. Everyone loved him but when we got a player in his position he threw a hissy fit. How can you assume Fergie would jeopardize results on the field just to lower the players value? Berba needed time to integrate into the team and weve been seeing the last month or two how that has payed off in his and our performances.(Is it just coincidental that we couldnt maintain any real semblance of possession of the ball today on EXACTLY the same day that Berbatov didnt play??)
We got on Ronaldo for dampening our great treble last year with his Real talk, so why are we giving Tevez a pass for spewing out this crap the last few weeks, particularly on the DAY WE WIN THE LEAGUE???. IMO, if he was such a professional he wouldn’t be opening up his mouth like this. Do I think we should have signed Tevez up earlier? yes Does that give him reason to bitch and moan during the final stretch run of what could be a historic season? ABSOLUTELY NOT
What an idiotic thing to say. Clearly Carlitos is desperate to leave Man Utd and it wouldn’t surprise me if he ended up at Anfield. He’s admitted that he wouldn’t mind playing for the Pile its just a question of whether they can stump up the cash.
18 titles, a second hat trick of Premier League trophies, really we don’t need to be thinking about Carlos’ complaints. If he doesn’t have faith in the management and he feels he should be going over the boss’ head and having meetings with directors then perhaps he needs to be at City or Real Madrid where the manager is merely a figurehead.
I would love to see Tevez continue as a United Player but that desire is not as strong as my respect for the manager’s competence. For me, if I had to give up one of our strikers, it would be him. To make matters worse, I am less that impressed with all these press talk he uses to market himself. RVN was the quintessential striker, but even he would agree that Fergie was right to have let him go when he did. Thats the key, this manager has earned the right to be trusted.
yeah to compare him to that cunt gabby is out order, wheres this quote from? and is it genuine? i hope its not, if its for real hes aswell as packing hes bags now Fergy will fuck him and hes agent right out the door, cant blame the lad but the timings all wrong though, and for joining the murderers………surely not?????
I’ve always stuck up for carlitos but enough is enough fuck off and lose with the scum here or in spain but know you are done with winning! If you were such a bad ass SAF would have played you more, go play every game for someone who sucks and shut you’re yap.
I really can’t understand his problem. And the irony is it’s the exact same situation as with Heinze – fan favourite, class for a few years, loved by everyone, new player bought to compete in same position, player throws a hissyfit rather than knuckling down to prove himself, player leaves.
The only difference being United don’t own Tevez, so a move to Liverpool could actually happen.
Oh well, nice knowing you Carlos. Hopefully you won’t ruin your legacy with us by joining one of our close rivals – it would be completely unnatural to see you in a City or Liverpool jersey.
Take care.
Fuck it then, give up, don’t fight. I’ve given too much love for Tevez, even in the last couple of weeks, but these words are too much…. Tara Tevez.
cancel his fucking contract now like you done with keane, so he dont fucking win a medal in rome!!! Manchester dont treat him with respect? why should they they had to be putting up with your hissy fits and gobby cunt! I no longer want him in the shirt, what he had just said was a lack of respect to the fans. We had just won the league for fuck sake. keep your opinions to kia or your manager. hope to god he dont play in the final, we can definitely win without him!!!
“Neither do I understand why I don’t play in the team. I’ve asked Kia not to speak to me about offers during the next 10 days. I want to concentrate only on the final matches that we have to play. Afterwards, I’ve got a month to take a decision and choose where to go.”
Carlos you have been whored around by your pimp daddy, having someone own you….
I am really angry not because he wants to go, but he is trying to slag of manchester united on the biggest day of our season, He thinks he is bigger or what? while under contract…Yes hes frustrated take it out on the field. In the RIGHT way. And if your wandering why you aint been playing, you should clime onto your high chair kick back and watch all your perforances this season.
He’s embarrassing the club. He thinks he’s bigger than United.
The Tevez show is coming to an end, and I for one can’t wait.
where did this quote come from Scott?? interview tape?? I read a few articles on him saying some stuff but not this lot??
wow. ive lost it totally for him after reading that. he says “There are ways in which the club is managed that I don’t understand. When you don’t agree with the manager in how the club is run… I don’t have faith in a lot of things that happen here.” WHAT? HE HAS NO FAITH WITH HOW THINGS ARE RUN WHEN WE ARE WINNING THE LEAGUE AND IN THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE FINAL? WHAT EXACTLY WOULD HE HAVE DONE THAT IS BETTER THAN FERGIE? you cant do any better eh….. i am flabbergasted! Loved the little “ruud van horsey-face look-alike” only five minutes ago before reading that.
What a fucktard. He just wants to leave..I dont think he means all the “I love manchester united” and “i love the fans” .. If he loves us so much he can as well shut up. This aint real madrid where the directors and president welcome you.
I dont see a reason why the club should take any more criticism from the shit hole. He def aint bigger than the club bro.
@chaosRed: I second that, mate! We shall not be disrespected repeatedly by “our own” player.
…..and yes, why say this bullshit on the day of us winning the league?? seems like last years celebrations got ruined by the ronaldo talk and now this years is gonna do the same with tevez… well nothing will ruin my celebration here with you all while over here in Detroit, USA… he is done in my book if this quote is legit. and i trust scott that it is… id love to come over there next season and meet you all for a couple drinks before the game, during the game, and after. And sing the songs with people that know what the hell is gong on. I am the only one who knows what the real football is. Only player you ever hear over hear is mr becks… ugh. lol. night guys!
That’s why i said, it still baffles me how he did sign with Kia in the first place. Why would a man sell himself to another man? Money is the only answer! Like ChaosRed said, Kia is just his sugardaddy. The fact that Tevez signed with Kia in the first place is a big hint that something is wrong with him.
Agree with MJ. Try putting yourself in his position.
Carlos. You should leave. I’m an MU fan, but i don’t mind you going to our rivals as long as it is the best for you. No player is bigger than a club, but then again, no club is bigger than a human being.
For everyone asking, the interview/quotes are from this article:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1183448/Tevez-leaves-tears-It-difficult-I-feel-Ive-badly-treated-says-United-star.html
the article is translating from an interview in spanish, so perhaps it comes across harsher than he means it
i understand a lot of what tevez is saying/understanding, i just dont know why he doesnt approach the manager about instead of the press
Come on, can these quotes be trusted? He looks darn happy lifting the cup!
Source?
If they’re accurate, the comparisons with Heinze are spot on. I didn’t want him to leave because what I saw from Evra in a United shirt scared me. Whoops! Perhaps latin and spanish players don’t appreciate that this club is not run like their clubs where players are bought, a phase is completed and they are all moved on and replaced…ie: Real Madrid and Barcelona.
If Tevez actually said those words in the context reported he’s dumber than I thought. Why say this right before the CL final? If he’s not listening to offers, and he’s made up his mind, then shut your gob, play your ass off, get your move and be happy elsewhere. If he’s going regardless then what does he have to gain by coming out with this now? Wait 2 weeks then shoot your mouth off all you want.
We all slated Ronaldo for last summer (myself included), but this is worse. Tevez is here to make as much money as possible end of story. Quite possibly for honourable reasons (family, a better future for his daughter etc) but he is, and is behaving like a highly paid foreign mercenary out to make as much money in as short a time as possible. Ronaldo flirted with the girl down the street, Tevez has, on his anniversary said he’d gladly snog our bitterest rival because she’s a better cook.
On the way out, perhaps he should google Heinze, RvN, Beckham, Butt, P Neville and see how life has gone since they’ve left.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlyDVtEc3Yw
Tevez interview after winning the league! IN ENGLISH
does these comments by Tevez help anymore.surely Fergie will not sign him now.he has directly hit out at the club & its directors.its just not acceptable
bye :-/
thats me first instinctual comment. My indifference is bafflin me on this scott? i fuckin love him, he’s been immense for us, however, i dont know if we look thru he archives, we’ll find any player that had the send off that man had when he got subbed off yesterday???
That said, what he has come out with is makin me choose between our manager and him.
tara carlos!
by the way i’m pissed!
so if my comments seem a little daft its cos of the copious amounts of alchohol i’ve consumed and the difficulty i’m havin, understanding carlos’s comments!
havin said that……… i dont think i’m too far off the mark ere? he needs to go, thats it, no way back from this. unfortunately. love him and before seein this, i wouldnt have hated him, had he signed fer the shite down the east lancs, but now he’s ad a go at the messiah its tara carlos, adios,sayonara,bye, ciao….thats it, i’m a united fan not a fuckin languages teacher lol
even if he signed fer them i should say :-/
whiteknight….top assessment
Since CT is desperate to leave then he must go. We don’t need continuous whinging. Football is not about personal glory but about a collective effort to see that your TEAM keeps producing results.
He has definitely come through when needed and the United faithful appreciate it…but that’s also what is to be expected from a player of his calibre or else what the hell is he getting paid the big money for?
Such self-centered players are never good to keep for over-all team morale.
Let him go. We don’t need a begrudging player who will only spread around his negative vibes at Old Trafford.
There will always be somebody far better to replace him with. History has proved that time and again.
if he’s being disrespected by the club/manager/directors, then fine, shame on them…..but there is no fucking need for him to come out and talk about the fucking situation over and over again
just keep it to yourself from now on carlitos
If this is exactly what he said,I say,”GET THE FUDGE OUT!!”.
If anyone makes me choose between Sir Alex Ferguson and Carlos Tevez,there’s only one option…
@theboogeyman : are u on orkut mate ?
He’s spouted far too much shit over the last few weeks for him to deserve the support he got from the fans today, and who ever booed SAF for taking him of are a disgrace. Tevez is not worth the extra 20 odd million his dickhead owner wants for him plain and simple. Let the bin dippers waste that kind of money on him for me. Yeah the lads done well for us but from what I can see he is the only one doing the disrespecting not the club. If Ronnie would of come out with some of the comments carlos has the stretford end would of strung him up by his bollocks not chant his name over The Managers speech!
I want to see video of tevez actually saying these things because european media is not to be trusted!
Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out! “There are ways in which the club is managed that I don’t understand.” The most successful club in the world?
I love Tevez for what he gave to the team these 2 years.But he became a drama queen over this and i was sad to see a lot of United fans follow him on this.Yesterday’s crucial game should not have turned into a Tevez love fest.Not with Arsenal pegging us back the way they were.And on top of that we hear about protests and hurled bottles outside the stadium.On the day we equalled Liverpool’s title record!”Yeah we won the league but we can’t see our beloved Carlos to Liverpool”.Is that right?Maybe then we should keep Carlos and go 26 years without a title again.Lets see how they feel then.Beckham and Van Nistelrooy received far worse treatments than Tevez did,yet we never got behind them like that.Tevez can go to LIverpool for all i care.As soon as he exits OT,i won’t care anymore.
Why in the world are all of you’l believing something printed in the freakin Daily Mail and which has been translated from a spanish interview. We all know how “credible” spanish interviews are. Let’s not overreact to something tevez has probably not even said
“Tevez can go to LIverpool for all i care.As soon as he exits OT,i won’t care anymore.”
agree with you costas. the sooner the matter resolves the sooner we’ll be able to celebrate without this unnecessary phoney drama.
Tbh as much as I like the guy he’s said too much now.I’m starting to get well pissed off with him.
I know he wants his future sorted but SAF has always said it will be done at the end of the season.
Its all taken the shine of what should be a special day.
He’s selfish end of story.Let him go.
Even if he did not give this interview, he has said enough these past few weeks to make me feel while United may have disrespected him somewhat by trying to pull down a fee agreed 2 yrs ago, but he has disrespected the club, the manager, his teammates and all the fans by making it sound like he is a victim. All the talk of not playing in big games is a myth if you look at records, all the talk of United don’t want him when Sir Alex has said repeatedly he wants Tevez to stay, amounts to accusing Sir Alex of lying. I have lost all respect I have for him. To all fans who insist Tevez is better than Berbatov just because he appears to run more and capable of attempting to tackling with his head, there are millions in the world who are willing do the same for a shot at playing 15mins wearing our jersey inside Old Trafford, let alone 2 trophy winning seasons
For me,this isn’t about Berbatov.If we hadn’t bought Berba last summer,we would have been stuck with just 2 first class strikers.Had that been the case,this season could have turned out a lot worse.I will never tell United fans to stop loving the guy.But to make him bigger than the club on the day we equalled Liverpool’s title record?It’s not on.And they also did it on a day Maradona revealed Tevez’s not so flattering comments about SAF.And the worst part of all this?It’s not SAF’s decision anyway.Two parties can make the deal happen:the Glazers and Joorabchian.If we are going to sing “Fergie sign him up”, we might as well sing “Carlos lower your price”.I really hope that what happened yesterday at OT does not happen in Rome.The lads,will need 100% support from the travelling fans.
@wazza:yep..
“Neither do I understand why I don’t play in the team.” What the fuck you on about you ungracious little twat. Take a leaf out of Fletch ‘s book pal.
Just hope its bollocks, if not then fuck him.
The ABU’S will love this. We MUST not let this detract from 18 titles!!
Will we fuck. Championes!
I have been one of Carlos’ biggest supporters and i did fell that at times this season he wasnt given a fair chance..like when he scored 4 in the league cup and started on the bench the next game.. however IF the quotes are true then i’m very disillusioned by him. For now i’m just gonna hope he didnt say what he said and if he did then thanks for the memories and good bye
@wazza:sorry,no longer there on orkut…
He’s said it doesn’t matter about 5 million less or 5 million more but the fact is it does. Fergie says he wants to keep him. Tevez will find out that away from united is a step down.
If he is going it has to be soon because then we could have time to get a striker in. A replacement for carlos doesn’t have to be a 30 million superstar. (that would be nice though). Can I see who you lot would wanna see at old trafford.
And next year Berba will be the main man. This year he had no pre-season with any club, got thrown in at the deep end away to the dippers and rent boys whilst carrying an injury. This year he will have a pre-season and players like Rooney and ronaldo will know how to be effective when playing with him. Some of the things he can do with the football are just ridiculous.
King Eric just saw you response about Carlos on another thread.Thanks.I didn’t know that they chanted “Fergie give us a wave” after that.I didn’t think he had a breat game.I think we need someone with Berba’s cool head yesterday.Too many nervous legs.Still though,i have an issue with how much people seem to be offended by Carlos’ treatment.I wish they felt like that when Beckham left.
What a prick. I hope he rots on the Rentboy bench for the rest of eternity.
Ouch. That’s a bit harsh from you Carlos.
I thought you liked us
YAY TEVEZ IS A PIECE OF SHIT, CAN WE TRADE HIM FOR DIRK KUYT INSTEAD, AT LEAST HE GOT ENOUGH PACE TO PLAY ON THE WING, TEVEZ CAN’T EVEN DO THAT LIKE ROONEY.. TEVEZ YOU SUCK, GO LIVERPOOL AND WE’LL START TO COUNT 19, 20, 21……. WHILE YOU’RE ALWAYS AT 18…
ok i’m sorry im such a fucktard to have posted already then read the comments policy.. pardon my caps…
Why can’t Carlos speak english, he’s lived in the country for 3 years now. I’d say it’s no wonder he doesn’t feel a part of the team when he can’t talk to most of the players. Or the manager. And how are the directors suppose to speak to him if they don’t know spanish?
Newcastle is on the brink of relegation. I say we swoop in for either Obafemi Martins or Michael Owen if Tevo departs. Its sure to be cheap, and i doubt either would mind warming the bench for some time if it means winning trophies (for a change).
Amo488, totally agree. one think I do not understand is how he finds it so difficult to cope the competition in the club as we are. there are so many games during the season and he is afraid of having enough time on the pitch. there are 3 regular forwards rotating (and occasionally they can all play) . does he think he would go to scousers and play each game (with Rafa`s rotation system)? come on, he is not that silly. or is he?
http://goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/05/17/1270068/sir-alex-ferguson-hopeful-of-carlos-tevez-compromise
it aint over till the fat lady sings
Did Rooney feel disrespected when he didn’t get to play in the Everton and City games ? Or is he intelligent enough to understand that the manager must be allowed to make those decisions, that the winning edge we enjoy over our rivals is in the stength that comes from the manager’s authority not being questioned ?
Looks like the plan is to spend the money on a winger. and play Ronaldo through the middle next season, freeing him up from the tracking-back duties he doesn’t fulfil. Shame that our Glazer-fucked finances mean we can’t afford Ribery: is Valencia United-class ?
Carlos Tevez does not belong to Old Trafford. We do not need these distractions now we are after the Champions League. Thanks for the good times and good luck with Real or the FSW or the Russians or whichever moron is gonna pay your agent.
In one word FUCK OFF. That’s two words sorry.
FusilliJerry
We can very well afford Ribery mate, but the fact is the price on his head is over the top. If we won’t spend 30 mill on Tevo, there is no way in hell that SAF will spend 60 mil on ribery. it is a matter of principle rather than financial clout.
I like the guy, but his constant running to the press is beginning to grate more than CR7. at least Ronaldo was somewhat vague with his answers about his future…..Tevez is just flat out demanding to be released. get rid, buy Valencia to play on the right and play Ronaldo upfront (where the glory boy clearly wants to play). simples.
DK and if i may add, we didn’t need his dramatising yesterday in the middle of a historic quest.
David Gill said that “we will see in early June”.I am also fed up with him.He has been lying for the past 8 months.If you can’t pay for the player,just say it.Don’t let Fergie take the blame for this.
The whole thing is becoming distasteful. It’s just like the Ronaldo saga from last season, only difference being he has made some comments straight after we won the league. For fuck sake, we’ve got a European Cup Final to prepare for, why can’t he just keep quiet and let the season finish first. I love the guy and would love him to stay, but the more detrimental comments he makes about United, the more I will lose my patience with him. No one player is bigger than United.
Why cant he just understand that he is NEVER gonna start every game, probably only a handfull of players are gauranteed that. HE needs to deal with that. This seasons there has been so many times that he has come off the bench and totally changed the game for us. But when he starts he rarely has the same impact. And know for him to start bad mouthing Fergie and talking about respect, im pretty damn sure that there will only be one winner in this game.
Just heard some statistics, only Vidic and Ronaldo have played more games than Tevez.
You don’t see Berbatov/Giggs Rooney etc complaining.
It’s so annoying!!
So he gets paid lucrative sums to kick a ball about, and he wants sympathy because he doesn’t feel at home? You poor poor man.
Anyway, mates. I think we might need to cool down somewhat.
We are here to do the talking but only the guys responsable for this story know all the details. It so strange and the club doesn’t want to clarify the situation. Maybe the time hasn’t come.
And i also thought about Rooney’s absense from the Everton game in the FA Cup. We all love Rooney, he is a true professional but there is no need to make a comparison between him and Tevez. Wazza has a contract and is paid 130k for his duties.
Remember, it is so easy to call somebody a friend but there is always something coming up that will prove if you were right in the first place.
Anyone notice that whilst the other players had their wives and girlfriends on the pitch for the celebrations, Tevez had Joorabchian ?
When Posh Spice started to exert an influence on matters at the club, Beckham was history. We don’t need the person Tevez is in bed with spreading poison through the papers and weakening our club.
It’s quite clear that even though the club would give Tevez a permanent deal, he would still be unhappy. He doesn’t understand that Fergie likes to rotate the squad, you can’t play every game. Besides, Tevez had a period this season where he wasn’t playing so well, but he sure helped us in our last games. I’d love to see Tevez at United, it kills me if he wants to go to a rival club in England. He won’t get more games at Liverpool, unless they’d try to make him into a winger or something. I also doubt that they would spend 25mills on him.
Like Steve Bruce said, leaving United is a step down. I hope Tevez stays but it’s coming clear he doesn’t want to. He must understand that our priority in May was to secure the premier league title (accomplished) and secure the Champions League title. After that we can talk about a permanent deal for Tevez…
PS: Doesn’t Tevez realize how wrong it is to be contracted to this Kia guy?
The question is though: Who will we replace him with?
I refer the honorable RJ to the answer I gave some moments ago: we will replace Tevez with Ronaldo, and replace Ronaldo with a new right winger, with Tosic on the left.
Let’s never sign another Argentinian.
NO Valencia is not United class in my opinion. Somone put play Ronnie up front where the “glory boy” like it. He has stated time and again he DOES NOT like playing that position.
Martins and Owen? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with Jake.Argentinians are very passionate and give their all for their clubs but as soon as things don’t go in their favor,they are looking for conspiracy theories.Heinze could never stomach the fact that Evra had leaped in front of him.Tevez couldn’t stomach the fact his place in the starting line up was never guaranteed.
He doesnt need replacing by some big name, its time to give the youngsters more of a chance
FFS I’m trying to enjoy our 3rd Premier League victory in a row. We’ve got a Champions league final in a few days. I couldn’t give a shit about all this speculation and dodgy translations, I honestly couldn’t care less. If they want to stay in Red, I will love them unreservedly! If they want to fuck off somewhere else, who cares?!? We could sell Ronaldo, Nani, Tevez, make loads a dough, and I think we’d still be strong enough to smite them all next season.
Forget about it people, WE FUCKING WON IT!!!
After the way he has behaved off field for teh past two weeks, we should let him go. He should have waited till after the Rome final and then moan as much as he wants. Kia, the idiot that he is, realising that he is not going to get from United money that he had hoped for, ill-advised him to start the public whinge and burn ll the bridges with United. If Fergie does not want to pay over the top, one should be either desperate or crazy to do that. (Even the loan deal was too expensive).
For all I care he can go and play for Rafa Bullshitez or Man Shity or become a Chelsea rent boy. But he must know that there is only one way leaving Man Utd, and that is down.
Maybe this is for the best. Fergie and Gill probably have a plan B, and they might get even a better replacement.
Fuck Carlos Tevez….He has been moaning and moaning…We should never sign him up precisely because of the way he has gone about challenging Sir Alex’s authority…Disgraceful…and so are the fans who whistled Sir Alex yesterday when he took that cunt off…We have had the chance to see God himself and we boo him just because he is not sure whether a debt ridden club like ours should spend 30 mil pounds on a player who cant get us 20 goals a season…and that too in the current economic scenario….If he was as committed to the club as the match going Reds would want the others to believe why just he cant keep his mouth shut till the season ends instead of engaging in theatrics whenever he is substituted….He has the cheek to call Sir Alex an old man who doesnt like him…the way he has been behaving is certainly giving more reasons not to…He is a good player…15 mil pounds max…just because he a a south american and runs his socks off doesnt mean he is a genuis…on the contrary quite some way off it…
And one more thing..Nobody can replace Ronaldo..Fact…get real…Valencia?…okay but now way is he United class…and Tosic cant even get into our first team right now…..If Ronnie goes it will be a massive blow which would be detrimental to us in the short term…no question about that…Of all the players who left us..RVN,Becks,Ince…no one was THE best player in the world…we could replace them…but this lad is something else.He might be a greasy tantrum throwing cunt but he is a genius.
Fuck Carlos Tevez….He has been moaning and moaning…We should never sign him up precisely because of the way he has gone about challenging Sir Alex’s authority…Disgraceful…and so are the fans who whistled Sir Alex yesterday when he took that cunt off…We have had the chance to see God himself and we boo him just because he is not sure whether a debt ridden club like ours should spend 30 mil pounds on a player who cant get us 20 goals a season…and that too in the current economic scenario….If he was as committed to the club as the match going Reds would want the others to believe why just he cant keep his mouth shut till the season ends instead of engaging in theatrics whenever he is substituted….He has the cheek to call Sir Alex an old man who doesnt like him…the way he has been behaving is certainly giving more reasons not to…He is a good player…15 mil pounds max…just because he a a south american and runs his socks off doesnt mean he is a genius…on the contrary quite some way off it…
And one more thing..Nobody can replace Ronaldo..Fact…get real…Valencia?…okay but now way is he United class…and Tosic cant even get into our first team right now…..If Ronnie goes it will be a massive blow which would be detrimental to us in the short term…no question about that…Of all the players who left us..RVN,Becks,Ince…no one was THE best player in the world…we could replace them…but this lad is something else.He might be a greasy tantrum throwing cunt but he is a genius.
sorry for the double post.
Take a look at this
http://www.setanta.com//uk/Articles/Football/2009/05/15/Opta-on-TevezBerbatov/gnid-53066/
On your way then.
and Veron Costas…it was more of a joke, I think Messi would be a pretty good signing but in all seriousness Tevez is just about the most boring man that ever existed- shaking his head every time he is subbed after another lacklustre starting performance, clapping the fans (the ones chanting ‘sign him up’ are idiots, the world is full of them), telling the media he isn’t respected and now it’s that fergie can’t manage properly. I can’t wait for him to fuck off to Liverpool so I can give him some proper stick and watch him mis-control most of the passes into him and scupper Liverpool’s attacks…fuckin idiot
Anon @ 11:27 – you’ve got it right.
IF Carlitos leaves then either Obafemi Martins or Mikey Owen would be an excellent stop-gap to provide cover while Kika Macheda and Danny Welbeck grow up.
I’ve been suggesting Owen as a natural fox-in-the-box kind of predator that this team is missing in the late going; Martins is the same but even faster, more powerful, two-footed, and more dynamic in all ways.
Good shout, mate.
How much do you think we could get Owen for ?
Again Denton – No!!!!! Why Owen, I know he has a good goal scoring record for Ingerlund but the man aint been able to hit a barn door for years. The most over rated player there is. Ex dipper. He is a fuckin mercenary to boot and he is NEVER EVER fit. The worst suggestion for United I have heard as I have said all along. Let him stick to his horses.
Comparing his direct quotes to Ronaldo’s indirect hints is a bit rich.
Ronaldo ninted that Madrid was his “dream move” but that “God only knew the future” but he stayed because he was told to by SAF; while, in contrast, Tevez wants to tell SAF how to manage the forward line.
The OPTA statistics are interesting but, just remember, there are “lies, damned lies, and statistics”. Carlitos’ energy doesn’t get captured in numbers; Berbatov’s calm guile doesn’t either. They bring very different skill-sets to the game.
I prefer seeing Tevez play because the high energy attack is much more comfortable to watch but obviously I would defer to a man who knows much much more about the game who saw Berbatov as the last piece in the puzzle of his latest reincarnation of Champions.
Besides, this is a matter which will be resolved one way or the other in a few weeks’ time; meanwhile, there’s a game in Rome to think about.
King Eric – I knew that you would slate my suggestion and you have good reasons to do so. However, I seem to remember that OGS was also bedevilled by a poor injury record and that he was a huge – albeit tactical – asset.
My point in suggesting Mikey Owen is two-fold: first, he’s a proven goal scorer in tight spaces (an English Pippo Inzaghi – or a top-flight Kevin Phillips – if he plays and gets service then goals happen); and, second, he’d be available on a free transfer and he would sign under no illusion that he would be used as anything but a stop-gap.
owen has lost everything he had when he was at Liverpool. Martins is just not good enough. Still, I would love it If they go down, love it.
Replacement for scarface. Simply. Kiko Macheda. He is only 17/18. Tall. Quick. Strong and already has the ability but with a proper involvement in the starting set-up he can improve.
We would probably want another striker in though. Any thoughts as to who that could, would or should be.
I don’t care if Owen was Maradona.
There are some players that i just don’t want at the club.
With Ronaldo, Rooney, Berba, Macheda and Wellbeck do we really need another striker ? Was reading in a Fergie interview today that he’s been telling Capello he thinks that Wellbeck will be going the the World Cup. Obviously that marks an intention that he;s gonna be getting some regualr football with the first team next season.
Rooney the bestest:
Tosic will be starting XI next season, releasing Rooney to play through the middle again – with Ronaldo. The summer signing will be on the right.
We need Carlito to stay! He makes us tick! Berb is a great classy player, but his style is far too layed back for my liking and doesn`t suit our dynamic style of play. Tevez on the other hand does! He gets us going and it will be a major own goal if we allow the shite down the East Lancs Rd. to steal him from us cos make no mistake with the transvestite and Tevez up front and Stevie Me behind them they will be a much stronger opposition than this season! We will simply be making our bitterest rivals stronger! NO! Tevez must stay! Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez should be our 1st choice attack! Berbatov should be the back up NOT TEVEZ!!
i don’t know how Berba affects our dynamic style of play.
i absolutely love the manner of our play when he is in the team.
Why is everyone hating Tevez; of course he feels hurt,.. All his team mates are sure about their futures, but not him. He gives everything every time he plays. His tears at the end of the Arsenal match show that he doesn’t want to go. He is sending out a desperate cry to be kept and not to be sold. Understand him you ungrateful people.
Corea Berb affects the style and dynamism of our play because of his own languid, `lazy` style of play! I am not saying that Berb is crap or anything just that we are a better attacking force with Tevez in the team rather than Berbatov and that Rooney, Ronaldo and Tevez scare the shit out of opposing defences more so than when Berb plays! Tevez is near impossible to pin down for a defender but life is easier for defences because of Berbatov`s style.So, I much prefer Tevez in the starting line up than Berbatov great player that he is but Tevez suits our attacking style better!
On the “footy show” here in Toronto, it was reported that:
Ronaldo is on the verge of signing that annual contract with Nike worth TEN million dollars – and, of course, Nike sponsors UTD, not the fascist virus.
SAF is planning to re-deploy Ronaldo next year as the point-of-attack striker which is why there won’t be too much catering to Tevez’ demands.
@FusilliJerry
how can you be sure that Tosic WILL be playing next season when all he got was a substitute appearance this season is beyond me… Kiko and Welbeck have had more appearances than him and even they cant be sure of that..
As it is if you have watched Tosic enough you wouldnt have come out with this…he’s till some way off playing week in week out for United.
of course you would have liked 11 tevez’s in the team but football is not always about running. i don’t see himm affecting our style of play that much. i see only positives. that’s my point.
Duke do you think its right he criticises the club fergie and the way its run, He wants to make he decision to play when fergie should, he obviously think he should be in the starting line up everyweek…
These past couple of months everyweek he has said something to the press trying to derail everything weve worked for because he occasionally sits on the bench….
If you think player should get away with criticising the way the club is run by the manager etc WHILE under contract then your totaly wrong and you cant see the bigger picture…Kean criticised the players look what that got him? tevez criticises the manager etc…And if tevez really cared aboout united fans and not pay packet then he would not have spoke to the media why were are still fighting on all fronts…
If the player dont want to stick with the club why defend him? do you like him more then the club? the answer should be no…And if i had to choose between him and the club tevez would be gone in the blink of an eye.
Behind Vidic, Ferdinnd and Rooney, Tevez hs been our best player by far, and if Fergie isn`t willing to pay 25-30 mill. for him, then he (Fergie) really needs to retire. because if Tevez leaves, we would lose a great, great player to, most likely to the Bin dippers, which would prevent us from getting any more trophys for years to come…
The only plyer I see around today that isn`t a Bin dipper (Stevie Me or Ladyboy Torres) that could replace Tevez is Messi, or maybe a Pato at his best….
rooney_thebestest
Tosic is quality hes only not in the team because he is not physically ready with the demands of the premiership….did kiko cost the amount of money tosic did? fergie splashes money on key youngsters…Tosic is on a training program to build up strength the same as what alan smith was on.
Evans Rio Evra Fletcher Rooney Ronaldo Carrick Giggs Vidic Berbatov in my opinion have been better than Tevez.
The player he cannot dislodge are because they are better footballers than him or world class its simple…Only few players have their own position because they are world class.
Gibbs : Fergie needs to retire ?!?! FIVE MORE YEARS
http://www.premiershiplatest.com/news/man-united-boss-ferguson-writes-apprecia-554794.html
will Carlos recieve this kind of letter from SAF ?
United 2009 -2010
V d S / Foster
Brown / Rafael – Rio – Vidic – Evra
Carrick – Hargreaves
Valencia – Berbatov – Rooney
Ronaldo
Start making more space in the Trophy Room
@ChaosRed …I know he is a good young player and i have been watching the reserves games on MUTV throughout the season mate….he definitely needs to improve physically but asI have said before he is not playing at the kind of level first team football at United demands….He hasnt exactly set the world alight with his reserve performances and thats my only grouse….if we want a winger to play for us week in week out he has to be at a certain level…right now he isnt….now whether he can do that next season is too early to say…I wish he can come good asap……but i say again you are expecting too much of him …..either ways I just want the lad to do well.
@Gibbs…thats the biggest load of trash I’ve ever heard…Fergie should retire?…come the fuck on mate.
Arsenal fan here. Is IS disrespect from United b/c they should tell him exactly what the problem is and what they’re trying to do about it. According to him, there hasn’t been much talking.
Same situation with Flamini last year. We disrespected him by waiting sooo long to offer him a new deal. We first said he’d be offered a deal in Jan. but it never happened. Then, we offered 55,000 when he wanted 60,000 a week.
He probally didnt even say this.
Gibbs- You’re mental and have little to no analytical skills.
Seems Tevez is losing it in the end, criticizing the club and the manager as well. I wanted him to stay, he has so much energy and pace to add to the team, but seems he wants to play in another club in the end. I wish him good luck wherever he goes, he’s been a fantastic player for us, now lets roll in his replacement and end this ongoing drama.
@ Rite$h
if Tevez goes to Liverpool will you support him and wish good luck ?
i won’t fucking care. (
You could buy Owen (in reply to earlier post) for 20 Rothmans Kingsize…. we need someone to clean OT shithouses out….!!
Wow Gibbs, thats for the most bullshit post I have read this year. Lets turn on SAF, ignore his judgement, and appoint you our manager.
RE what King Eric Said at May 17th, 2009 @13:40- i’m telling you mate, next season you will see Ronaldo play up front with Valencia on the right. who gives a flying fuck that he said he doesn’t want to play up front…..he’ll play where Fergie tells him. and since when did we start believing what footballers say?
Gibbs that is utter bollox, RVN was sold, Beckham was sold, Stam was sold, and look where we are now and it is down to the manager.
Someones been having PR lessons from the FTW!
Should have left it to the end of the season at least, we don’t need it atm.
i have to say if he does go then i would be gutted, but if he does i would say thanks carlitos, some fantastic memoeries you have gave us. i would never boo him who ever he played for he ran his heart and gave his all for us. gotta remember that. if he was to go to murderside then so be it its not like is him its kia joke-abian.
Mancaroon – RE what King Eric Said at May 17th, 2009 @13:40- i’m telling you mate, next season you will see Ronaldo play up front with Valencia on the right. who gives a flying fuck that he said he doesn’t want to play up front…..he’ll play where Fergie tells him. and since when did we start believing what footballers say?
If you had read my post correctly mate I was merely pointing it out because someone said quote “glory boy” will be able to play up top on his own. Therefore I just pointed out that the “glory boy” don’t like playing up there so how is he a “glory boy then” Thats all I meant.
Where is this quote from (sorry if it has been mentioned before)?
David Gill: “If Carlos said that, I think it’s borne out of frustration.” & he said that both parties had agreed “not to continue negotiations through the press”.
I hope Tevez stays. But just like Ronaldo said: “You never know.” … and the press know the least!
@ ChaosRed
Yea, you are very right that Tevez disrespected the club; and that is unacceptable. However we all do silly things when we are angry and desperate, any human being should understand that. I think that deep in his heart, all he wants is to stay, although he has gone about it the wrong way. I would pay £ 25 for him. Considering his commitment when he plays, and all the time he has to improve if he is fully our player, then it’s worth it.
Gibbs: That’s moronic. Tevez has scored 5 league goals all season…hardly the 4th best player on the team.
The replacement you’re all looking for is Frazier Campbell….and he’s free.
why not Defoe ? he is a finisher & has pace to run behind defences.
diego forlan???????
Am still gutted when we all act like hypocrites about whats going on with carlitos and the club. Its obvious, the fan loves him, but the club dont want his services. For every mile and blade of grass he has covered, i am very grateful. You are truly a united great.
evra replacing heinze vs berba replacing tevez are 2 very different scenarios.
heinze was injured we needed a replacement evra was brought in and he was a revelation and he kept heinze out.
tevez was in top form we had just won the league and euro double with him as upfront the entire season and he was only going to get better. then we paid 30m quid for a footballer who doesnt add anything to our play and tevez who did nothing wrong was relegated to the bench for much of the season.
hissy fits aside, how can u seriously compare the both?
It’s a shame and all that, but it was far from perfect was it? Let’s save the cash for someone who CAN hit a cow’s arse with a banjo.
Or start playing SuperFletchLegend up front!