After starting our two biggest games of the season so far in the League Cup final and European Cup semi-final, Carlos Tevez has been speaking to the press again, giving his strongest indication yet that he is leaving.
“It’s true I see myself more leaving United than staying here,” said Tevez in an interview with Cadena COPE. “I don’t see why I should lie to people or anything because the fans support me a lot as you can see. So I don’t have any reason to lie to them. While I wear the United shirt I will leave my life on the pitch. You can see that in every game I play. I respect people a lot and I’m grateful to them. My future? I don’t know what will happen for my future. I would like to go to Spain, yes, but I don’t know yet. I have no preference for a team . . . we’ll see. With respect to the fans and the history of Manchester United, I don’t want to leave the club. But from a personal aspect, my exit will be the best solution. I need continuity in the team to offer my best. If this doesn’t happen I believe this will be my last year.”
Sadly, cheerio then Carlitos.
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While its sad that he’s decided to leave, the timing of this statement is questionable. Carlitos, can you please shut up for the rest of the season?
We have some very important games coming up and the last thing we need is Carlitos mouthing off like this.
Its sad that he’s gotta go, but that’s football for you.
It really does seem Benzema will be the man to replace him, we’re being linked far too much with him and Fergie was interested before. An interesting link is Kaka, if only we wouldn’t have to get rid of Ronaldo to bring him in! He’d be class!
Although Carlitos gives it his all on the pitch, sometimes it is not enough as it doesn’t translate into goals which is what we need from a striker. With that said, I think that the future is bright for United, albeit young, in the form of Kiko, Wellbeck and Campbell. Of course, there could always be a summer signing as well.
In the meantime, I hope that he continues to play his heart out and wins us a couple more trophies with his boundless energy.
I don’t believe all this. I’m willing to bet my house that Carlitos will stay !!
It’s just that it is a big sum to pay [30 million quid] and Man Utd will leave it to the last minute (Like with the signing of Berbatov) and get his signature.
Good luck to him, unless he joins the dippers.
Great news!
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I hope he ply his trade out of the Premier League. I really can’t stand him wearing an other team’s colours in the EPL.
Good luck to him though, he has been a wonderful servant!!
Oh dear, running his mouth again. With Ribery leaving if Bayern don’t qualify for the Champions League it wouldn’t be so bad.
Sadly for me, I’ve only managed to get her into football/United through Tevez as she sees him as this sweet friendly beast. If he goes it’s all over. Even managed to get her to come to the Porto game with me!
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WTF tevez is a player with heart who loves this club like we do why is he being allowed to leave . . . Fucking send Ronaldo to Spain . . .
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You realize of course that since we do not own Tevez he has the option to go where ever he pleases. And there is a very real possibility he could end up at Liverpool, especially with his bestest bud Monsterano playing there.
pipmc05 – I know what you mean but Ronnie is a talent that I personally would hate United to lose. Carlos may well have the better attitude and team ethic but ability wise between him and Ronnie there is no comparison.
yes he has more talent than anyone in the world but is he not the same a beckham and ruud . . . they thought they where bigger than this club and they where made to go and ronaldo is on the same road. . saying he wants out and never tracking back . . SAF , i think is allowing ronnie to walk all over him. . like i didn’t stand in the stretford and sing viva ronalda but now i refuse . . .
if he doesn’t stand not playing some of the important games Rooney and Berba combo will do for me. Bye Carlos and thanks for what you’ve done for us.
Let me give you a lesson Carlos. Threatening won’t make Fergie shell out the rest of the £32m United owe to your owners.
I LOVED you but y our treatment towards the club recently has been atrocious. I understand your desire to play but remember no player is bigger than Manchester United.
berba should be the one leavin.
Tevez, we love you and want you to stay…but PLEASE shut up and finish the season, then you can talk to the press all you want about your future.
Androo- my opinion your so right
dre – my opinion your so wrong
rooney does everything tevez can do rooney does it better, a team with 2 rooneys is super
but berbatov offers a different game that rooney can play with
so united have 2 options but if tevez left united and they got in another top notch striker then that gives united 3 different types of play
bored of this…his contant whining, head-shaking and pathetic attempts to place all ‘the fans’ on his side…well I’m a fan, and I want him to leave…berba is class…he came on and linked up like Tevez could only dream of against Arsenal…and I’m dubious about Tevez’s impact on our 5-2 win…I think it’s more pertinent to look at Rooney moving out to the left in an Henry-style role than Tevez running around…yeah the change of formation made a difference, and thus, by implication Tevez coming on, but you could have put practically anyone on (who is willing to run a bit) and it would have had the same effects…he’s not world-class and certainly not the superstar he was often made out to be when he was at Boca…oh, but I forgot, he tells everyone he was better over there…all this we used to be free-flowing talk…if there was a ever a lesson learned form the past, it’s that you can’t afford to stand still, so the argument why change a winning formula is redundant, you have to change otherwise you become predictable and static, whilst others develop, berba will do brilliantly for us…tevez has done is bit, now it’s time for him to go…and to return to why haven’t we been as good this year, I think it’s more relevant to look at Ronaldo’s sporadic form, his prima donna status and his general ineffectiveness in games which are preceived to be smaller occasions to him…whilst in the champs league he is everywhere, or when we are 2-0 down… Ronaldo has to keep moving amongst the attacking players for our football to be free-flowing, it’s nothing to do with this moronic idea that beacuse berbatov holds the ball up with 3 players around him for 10 seconds, he is somehow detracting from our speed of play, when there’s men around him he plays better, quicker and more incisive passes than Tevez ever has.
Tevez should stop all this crap talk of leaving at this crucial stage of the season.his heart is definitely at United, otherwise he would not come out & say so often.but i feel, Fergie is more interested in bringing Benzema.
@ Jake
great point.
Wazza i love tevez for mostly last season and his “runnin around” this season but i think at this stage im more interested in bringing in Benzema
Has it not been noticed he has been making alot of noise recently? Sir Alex only recently said they were trying to work something out, if that is not enough, I do believe he has stepped overboard.
We are in the most important period of the season, and we need the least of our time entertaining such matters. It has not been sorted out before, and it will not be sorted out now. He could just wait a few weeks more before making any more noise. And as much as there was said about Giggs’s disallowed goal against Arsenal, fact was that had Tevez not hit his point blank chance straight at the keeper, we would have been better placed.
Its a cold hard fact, if you are not good enough to warrant a starting position, you sit tight and work hard for it, taking your chances when they come, ala Fletcher & O’Shea.
Of course like I said before, the matter rest not with the club, but with MSI. Would they give up something for a sum of money now or would they try to hold on to his registration and sell him to some other countries where they can hold on to his registration and cash in all his transfers throughout his career?
Honestly, is losing Tevez that big a deal – I think SAF realizes that Tevez might offer a lot of running and heart but not much more – average pace, average passing, and distinctly average finishing. He is loved because he works hard (and Berbatov’s languid style, and Ronaldo’s petulance highlights that sometimes) – but in the grand scheme of things he does not offer enough to make him indispensable. I think SAF realizes that for the money being asked, we can get a more world class player who can offer us more cutting edge threat. Also think of it this way – We don’t sign tevez and we put the money into Kaka and Ribery (if Ronaldo goes, which I doubt)!!! And we know we have Macheda and Welbeck who will require more time on the pitch next season. Will we really miss Tevez then – I doubt it.
benzema??
fuck that he claims his heart is with real, the last thing we need is another case of bringing a player on and when they realise their potential they want out….
benzema bombed in the world cup and i would score a hatful in ligue 1..
his cl record isnt great neither… stay away from that cunt fergie…
let him off to the virus
Think of this guys when ROONEY is given a rest or injured we have some 1 who could come in and do same job no need to change formations and some1 of the same class, rotating the side over the season is an important in 2days game so havin player of TEVES class is always a great thing to have i hope he sign on and he is like a good luck charm 2 season in MAN U a champion league final win and almost there this season i hope we sign DOUGLAS COSTA b4 some1 gets him b4 us
I have a feeling its not Benzema either – I think SAF has just assessed that he has enough quality coming in from the youth setup and would like to splurge on a big time player – and I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes for the Kaka.
And I agree Benzema is not the answer as well. For someone who has said to the press many times he wants to play for some other club apart from us, I would stay clear of him.
I have a feeling its not Benzema either – I think SAF has just assessed that he has enough quality coming in from the youth setup and would like to splurge on a big time player – and I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes for the Kaka or Ribery and Ronaldo not leaving.
Because really, if we get Ribery or Kaka they can really guarantee us more goal scoring threat than Tevez and at the same time can be fit into our starting 11 without having to dislodge Rooney or Berbatov.
So Imaging our lineup being something like this- Rooney-Berbatov; Kaka/Ribery; Anderson/Carrick; Hargo/Fletcher; Ronaldo and the back four – I am not going to miss Tevez if this is what our team looks like next season…
Ribery is going to Barca.
dont forget kiko
Okay forget Ribery – but you get my general point, Tevez is dispensable and SAF definitely has his eye on someone better who will not have to be benched or played at someone else’s expense…
I think the best way to assess Tevez is through the eyes on non- man united fans. My brother’s a Barca fan and for him Tevez is average and at most times a headless chicken…and I think I’m buying into his view – he also thinks Berba is pure class…
Mahesh: “I have a feeling its not Benzema either – I think SAF has just assessed that he has enough quality coming in from the youth setup and would like to splurge on a big time player – and I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes for the Kaka.”
NOT Kaka, either. He’s completely settled in Milan and why would he leave ?
Anderson and Fletcher are rounding into top-class form but I’m figuring that SAF will want to bolster his midfield – Scholes/Giggs can’t go on much longer; Hargreave might/might not return; GIbson looks like a possible squad player; Park is a squad player; Possebon might be the real deal but it’s too soon to tell; Nani has been disappointing; and who knows what was promised to Ronaldo last summer.
Rooney and Berbatov are going to be fixtures and now, with Welbeck and Macheda coming out of the youth system – and looking every bit the part of stars-in-the-making – my guess is that Campbell and Manucho might get a shot at Tevez’ job.
In the back, Evans/O’Shea/Brown provide quality depth while Fabio and Rafael look like superstars, once they learn a bit more about positioning in the defensive end.
SO, looking backwards from 2011, it would seem that the midfield – the crucial zone in modern football – is the area of uncertainty in the summer of 2009. And that’s a concern which I wouldn’t think has escaped SAF.
Tevez has been fun to watch, defends tigerishly from the front, but he’s not especially “efficient” in front of goal – in actual fact, I think he’s not progressed at all since he first burst onto the scene at Boca Juniors back in the day. He is what he is; no more, no less.
I suppose that IF UTD win the CL/EPL double again – and that means about 100,000,000 quid in prize-money – then an argument about paying out another 22 million for Tevez becomes less problematic. BUT if the question is related to team-building – and not “what have you done for me lately ?” – then the money will be spent elsewhere, on alternative priorities.
denton davey, I agree. I’m throwing in names as hypothetical cases but my point is much the same – its clear that SAF does not see Tevez in a starting role with Rooney, Berbatov and Ronaldo. In which case he’s not much use is he? I also think he wants a world class midfielder/winger who will contribute goals and attacking threat…
I’d love tevez to stay but now hes said that it doesnt seem like he will,
Benzema anyone?
I really don’t see why we shouldn’t give Macheda and Welbeck a chance.
lads, also he may never have said these comments…
we all know what the spainish media is like to be fair to him… before ye all jump down his throat..
and jake, what game were you watching on wednesday? berbatov had one good moment, in his 26+ mins
Androo and others are right — Tevez needs to shut the F*** up. We’re 7 games away from repeating a league and European double, but he keeps rambling on about how he’s not getting enough chances. SHUT UP. I used to love the lad, he’s done great things for us, but not even Ronaldo is out there telling the press right now about wanting to leave. It’s the business end of the season, Carlitos just started and played 70 minutes in a Champions League semi — but it seems he’s more interested in negotiating his next contract.
If he wants to go that badly, let him. He’ll be taking a step down, no matter where he goes, and he knows it.
Amazing — on the same day, we’ve got Giggsy talking about how he never would have considered leaving the club. SAVE IT CARLITOS.
FERGIE FERGIE, SHUT HIM UP!!!
FERGIE…..SHUT HIM UP!!!
keanesmagichat…it was a radio interview and if Berbatov had just one good moment in 26 mins then I must have been at a parallel Old Trafford watching him do some things that as I said, ‘Tevez can only dream of.’
@keanesmagichat
we mustn’t judge the game superficially. We all see the effort Carlos bring to the game but it’s so much more difficult sometimes to see the good work of some players like Berbatov.
They are so different.
But ok, i agree. let’s put off the subject till the end of the season. very important ending of the season.
jake,
did you hear the radio interview? do you speak spainish?
maybe you were at a parallell old trafford or maybe you do not know much about football… berba did ok but he did not “link up play in away tevez could only dream of” as you claim… i have been on his back, but his performance against spurs was an improvement and as i said he did alright when he came on… we created less chances in the 2nd half, i distinctly remember tevez sending over the cross when alumnia made a save, mind you ronaldo should have buried it…but berba i dont remember him linking anything…
If Carlito has something to say, he should let his feet do the talking and do what strikers are paid to do – he could certainly rest assured that we would happily keep him at United if he manages to find the net on various occasions over the next couple of weeks!!!
Until then, he should keep his trap shut. Footballs should be seen and not heard!!!
keanesmagichat
Tevez also did scuff 2 chances he should have scored. If you can be slating Berbatov for his 30M price tag, I do not understand how you can justify paying more for Tevez
marq
i would not pay the 26 million for carlos no way.
i would hope they negotiate it down, from what i have heard and i have a decent contact.. the hierachy will not budge over 15 millionm max.. which i think is fair.. at 26million no way..
i say try grab david villa..
I didn’t hear the radio interview… but it’s unlikely to be another ‘misquote’ is it…you don’t hear evra being misquoted, or ji-sung park, or anybody else..just tevez every other week who says that what he said was elaborated upon every time…shaking his head like he’s been done an injustice every time he is subbed is obviously indicative of his feelings….I don’t know much about football? well I clearly know enough to know that Tevez isn’t as effective as Berbatov and that the failings of other top players this season like Ronaldo, have been unfairly attributed to Berbatov in a lame attempt at what is a coincidental judgement, i.e. because we signed berbatov, he must be the problem…Not that Ronaldo has looked disinterested most of the season, is it any coincidence our best performances in the last few months have been Inter away, Porto away, Spurs at 2-0 down and Arsenal in the semi?? It’s because Ronaldo has something to prove on those stages, Ronaldo’s need for fresh challenges is the most underestimated part of his character…I remember quotes from Queiroz and Fergie a couple of years ago about that they considered making him a striker to keep him interested and suitably challenged…anyway, point is it has fuck all to do with Berbatov and nor does the first half on wednesday or second half on saturday have a lot to do with Tevez, it’s about Ronaldo and Rooney both playing well…and if you can’t remember Berbatov linking up on wednesday, then you should do some memory training exercises
With MSI, I do not believe we can ever get the price down, so I believe we might have seen the last of Tevez if he did say he wants to leave, and Sir Alex takes offence.
With Valencia in so much debt, David Villa & Silva will go on auction, whoever pays most will get them. Villa looks interesting thou, a finisher which we don’t have
jake
dont need to, have watched the game 3 times.. if by linking up play you mean slowing down the play and passing backwards then yes he was brilliant at that.. i do not mean to be berba bashing, i think he has massive quality that fergie has not managed to harness correctly yet..
i reckon it will be next season before we see the best of him..if we do??
i support any player that wears our shirt… but if a player shakes his head when coming off thats hardly a crime is it?? i would do the same if my sunday league manager whipped me off, i distinctly remember scholesy doing the same in moscow… fergie just picked a horses for courses selection, we needed high energy and carlos give us that.. as i said above i wouldnt pay 26 million for him, nor will the old trafford hierarchy, 15 million max is what i hear.. but i would expect him to go, i think villa would be perfect
there are your true colours mate, ‘berba just holds it up and passes it backwards’…the point is so laboured and stereotypical it’s not worth contesting but I will anyway in the vain hope it hits some previously unoccupied part of your brain that might process the information more logically… but you might be too busy watching the game again for the 4th time (at least 3 hours of your life you’ve wasted). So there’s no mention that passes get played in to Berbatov that had never been conceived as possible with Tevez, no mention that he often circumnavigates 3 players before the support arrives, no mention that he acts as a base from which attacks can spring, no mention that it’s Ronaldo disinterest which often leaves Berbatov isolated in lesser games, no mention of his assists or his goals or the fact you’ve watched the match 3 times where as I watched it once and I can remember Berbatov linking up perfectly on at least one occasion after keeping the ball from two Arsenal players and he played in someone on the right wing…you’re clueless mate
“slowing down the play and passing backwards” Surely that is called hold up play?
Also what can he do if he is the furthest player up field, at Spurs he had Keane running beyond play, if there is know one in front of what else can he do? Do what Tevez does with his head down running aimusly into defenders.
Carlos is a top lad but £32m no chance.
jake
go fuck yourself, your are one of those twats who when someone disagrees with you, you claim they are “clueless”..
so the majority of united fans are “clueless” are they…
what passes are you talking about that have never been “concieved” as possible to tevez? do you think players in the middle of a game are thinking oh hold on thats carlos not berbatov better not pass tp him, get a grip ya twat.. you are the one thats clueless..
blaming ronaldo’s disinterest for berba’s failings? why doesnt rooney fail as a result of ronaldo’s failings? maybe you should swap that A in your name for an O ya prick…
as i said he in a previous post he linked once, which you just attested to in your above post, but that does not account for you creaming your pants “linking in a way tevez could only dream of”.. what a cunt…
Got to agree with Jake on this as I stated in an earlier post about Berba. He is deceptively very strong, he kept the ball when he received it which in the second half was key, that sublime little dummy or flick that sent Ronaldo through, the time when he had three players around him and he nonchantly just flicked it over their heads, the man oozes class.
Come on lads no need for abuse, if we all had the same opinion it would be shit. Clueless maybe was a bit harsh though.
ha ha at jake getting worked up over bum boy berbatov. Here is a harsh message jake he has been shit for us mate and the majority of fans agree. I suppose our other players were to blame for berbatovs shit lazy penalty as well. He has done nothing for us except put us 30 million further in debt and prepare to defend bum boy more jake cause next season if tevez goes the fans will let him know who they blame and if we buy benzena berbarov can warm the bench
king eric
“joke” was the one you started with the derogatory comments, i was simply stating my viewpoint, I unlike him have no care in the world if someone does not share my view…
I do though take barbs like his as an insult
He has won us games this season mate, Berba is top draw but an easy target simply because of his work rate, Berba has scored 9 in 28 and Carlos 3 in 25, and we won’t blame Berba.
‘majority’ of fans, who are the majority? have you been to Old Trafford recently? It’s not the ‘majority’ giving him stick, it’s called the minority mate…and I think you’ll find that you are the one who said I didn’t know anything about football because you disagreed with me…so pot/kettle/black…of course players consider who they are passing to? are you mental mate? I’ve seen balls fired into Berbatov by Carrick etc that they don’t even consider with Tevez, have you ever played football? that’s the way it works, Berbatov is trusted implicitly to keep the ball, that’s what makes great teams, the confidence in the other players around you…Tevez doesn’t get the same passess played into him as frequently beacause he loses it more often than not, it’s pretty simple logic…yes, he’s a different player, but he doesn’t offer anything that Rooney doesn’t, and Rooney prospers because his style is completely different to Berbatov’s, Berba relies on people gunning it past him, Rooney doesn’t need that…Tevez just doesn’t prosper, too slow, not enough confidence, composure, ability or touch…the whole package just doesn’t fit and give it a break with the swearing and hijacking the term ‘majority of fans’ with your spiel…if people like you carry on you’ll have United fans equated with the esteem the England flag is held in soon…
well said spencer, I think we should probably hang him, any other ideas? …clown
jake
i have been to old trafford recently yes, and the minority verbally abuse him because we are not the rent boys so do not boo our players… and rightly so, but that not is to say that the majority of mancs and united fans i know do not say he has been a massive disappointment…
the two issues are completely seperate.. do i think tevez is worth 26 million, no way.
do i believe berbatov has been a success? no way..
sure he oozes class, but he has not translated that into goals… which to be fair is his job no? he has 8/9 assists, great…
but tell me one big game where he has grabbed the game by the scruff of its neck and really contributed? granted west ham at home was breathtaking, but the truth those moments have been few and far between.. he is certainly stronger than some give him credit for and his hold up play has been adequate, put it this way if he was an academy graduate he could be viewed as a success, but he is not, this is his 3rd year in this league, international striker, champions league expeirence, all this equates to the fact that he has been disappointing
Just a note about the Tevez missed chance against Arsenal,his shot went for the corner from which Johny scored,so if Tevez had scored in the first place,no corner,result still 1-0
Keansmagichat re Berbatov,I think you should have gone to Specsavers !!
Keano, people said the same with Sheringham in his first season, and the Gooners said the same with Pires, also the season is not over yet and if he scores the goals that win us the league, nicks one on Wednesday and one in the final he will be a success, we need to jusge him at the end of the season, not now.
i understand he has scored winning goals at bolton, home to boro, geordies away.. but what i am trying to say is he hasnt contributed in any game for 90 minutes, where you would come away from the ground saying berbatov was class today..
he did at spurs regularly, but whether its the expectation or that teams set up to defend against us more or maybe that fergie and the players have not been on his wavelength yet i dont know, but he has been disappointing in my opinion and i would say in the majority of mancs and united fans i know, their opinion also..
three basic points which settle this debate for me – 1) Berba is waaaay more talented than Tevez – for everyone talking about berba holding up play and passing the ball back, consider that Tevez cannot even hold up the ball – watch the game again, the guys first touch is shit – he might not pass the ball back, but his control is sooo bad the ball bounces of his shin and travels back into our own half, often into opposition position – so please save that. 2) Berba’s in his first season with us, did not have a pre-season with us to build relationships on the pitch, and has shown enough glimpses to suggest that he has a lot more to offer – I can’t see tevez offering more than what he already has. I definitely see Berba offering us more next season. 3) Berba offers us variation in attack – Tevez is a poor man’s Rooney. He’s less needed in the squad.
stephen
i have said just that in previous posts, that maybe he will come good next year.. i am not a total berba basher and would love for him to change my opinion of him.. i do not believe we should get rid of him for instance
This shouldn’t turn into a “my favorite player is better than yours” debate, Berba hasn’t set the world alight and to be honest neither has Carlos consistantly, but we need them both for the run in firing ideally on all four cylinders becuase I am worried, starting tomorrow as our record id shite against Borough.
stephen
tevez is not my favourite player and to be honest at the price quoted i wouldnt mind if he left… my point is that berba has not set the world alight… simple
I didn’t mean that to be directed at you mate, I agree £32m for Carlos is simply not a viable option, maybe Gill should break the habit of a lifetime and try to negotiate a deal.
Jake, ignore Keanesmagichat or whatever his name is. He’s a confirmed Berba hater and always trots out the same old foul mouthed lines re “if you disagree with somone and call them a twat then your a disagreeable twat”. (Don’t try to make sense of it!!)
I agree with you totally and more importantly so does Fergie. Tevez is a good squad player and can be well employed in specific roles in certain games but Berba has the sort of class that defines United. If we can’t get Tevez on the right sort of deal I say let him go.
I don’t think this is a favorite player debate; it is relevant though because a lot of us have differences of opinion on who should be partnering rooney up front for the run-in and next season. It is a relevant debate not only because it decides for us whether we sign up tevez or not, but also figures into who we want playing tomorrow against borough – not that we make those decisions, but its a debate nonetheless. Maybe the question should be, in the run-in who would we want partnering rooney up front?
I would play all three of them, Rooney has been superb out wide.
oh dave mack,
i am a confirmed berba hater eh? maybe you should read some of my posts, all i have said is that he has been disappointing.. that doesnt mean i hate him..
the last time you were on, you were licking scotts arse saying “oh scott, we will show those twats that berba is good come the end of the season”… so i took offence to that..
its not hard to make sense of it dave mack (or whatever your name is.. brilliant, your a laugh a minute id say)…
if somemone disagrees with you does that mean you call them a twat? or just does it mean that you have a debate and then agree to disagree? i would say the latter.. not that hard to make sense of eh?
i said you were clueless, not a twat, you called me a twat..clueless is an informed opinion, twat is speculation, i’m probably more of a wanker…and you said that i didn’t know anything about football first so step of your little pedestal and stop confusing yourself
Berba has been a total flop considering his price tag and he did bugger all when he came on in the semi final spare holding the ball up once or twice. We could of bought Carlton Cole for a fraction of the price if thats all that is expected of Berbatov. Our style of play has gone down the toilet since his introduction to the starting XI. I did like the way we lined up in the 2nd half against Spurs(still can’t believe it ended 5-2):) and I thought it suited him more but over all I’ve been less than impressed.
Keanesmajichat .. we can can agree on that … the debate is good and we all love United so how much can we really disagree!
So tell me this, would you concede that Berba was superb against Spurs? (Apparently there is a site somwhere that gathers stats on players performance and he was rated “100% error – free”. Anybody know what site that might be.)
Mates, let’s face the fact: Tevez is a wonderful player to have in any squad but NOT in the price of 32M.
So, simple, if we can get a cheaper deal for Tevez (much less than the 32M price tag) then yes we would love to keep such an enthusiastic “terrier” in our team, better still we maintain the existing understanding among the front players for future seasons…
But if it has to be 32M to keep Tevez, I’m sorry, that’s not logical in today’s world and our club’s finance status.
With 32M, get David Villa, tease him by offering him a level stage of BPL to prove that he’s better than Torres in Looserpool, and then we have a more-than-ready replacement for Tevez — a target man we have not been having since RVN days… Who knows, it might even do a better change in terms of team dynamics, and benefit Rooney more since he likes to play in the ‘hole’ and support a front man?
We are not going to buy another world class striker because that would mean benching Rooney, Berbatov, or whoever that new striker happens to be. Having said that, Berbatov has not linked with Rooney on a consistent basis this year. Tevez needs to get away from his owner. Im sure that with a different agent that doesn’t own him he would reconsider his price. We need Tevez to speed up our game, to provide that extra spark. Lets sign him already.
I don’t get it, why do people keep going on about getting Benzema? Why? I don’t think Benzema is even better than Wellbeck, he is the most overrated forward in world football.
if Madrid pays 30 mln for Tevez will he be worth this amount money ?
And another question. Berba didn’t shine this season, but who did ?
@Tony Starks
stop for a minute and remember last season and the 1/8 final with Lyon.
It’s just a characteristic feature of us, people. We tend to forget things easily. Lyon is not the same this season wich does mean that Benzema is a worse player than he was a season ago.
dave mack
we are all united fans and as i posted earlier i conceded he had a good game against spurs… i would love for him to prove me wrong and have a massive say on our last 7/8 games
dave mack
what site was it??
“and Berbatov’s languid style”
again, i put here some stats after the Porto game. he was close to cover the same amount of distance as Ando did.
I’ve always really wanted him to stay.
But he’s starting to bug me a bit now.
Why can’t he just ssshhh for a while and start scoring some more goals for us. I love his work rate, no doubt, but he does seem to run around and around loads.
Stay if you can Carlito
Guys, guys..I think the problem is not the money, but the fact, that Tevez, wouldn’t accept Sir Alex’s “rotating the team”, principle. I am sorry, but if Tevez thinks he’s irreplaceable or he’s the right and only answer to every situation, he needs to go!
Don’t you think that the Macheda boy is just as enthusiastic and by the way,even more skillful than Tevez. I’d say, I’m tired of all this, get the hell out of here!
Keansmajichat; I don’t know which site gathers player stats like passes completed etc. If I find out I’ll make a post.
Anybody else know?
I agree (again!) that if Berba’s the real deal (which I think he is) he needs to show it over the next 7/8 games.
I think we all agree that there couldn’t be two more different strikers than him and Tevez. If he wants to stay and we can get him at the right price that would be great as it gives Fergie options. If not ……
Misterq makes a good point though about Macheda and his ability / enthusiasim. In the end of the day it may be the presence of our kids rather than Berba that forces out Tevez.
I don’t know if Kaka would leave Italy since he went through the trouble of being a dual citizen.
Im suprised with all these comments, no one has mentioned david villa.?
he is quality finisher and great striker and defintly better than tevez and benzima.
i would more than love to seem him sign for us.
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Great Minds…
Hi there,
I’m neither a Man U fan or a Liverpool fan so I’ve no favourites here but I’ve been wondering lately why Dirk Kuyt, who doesn’t often score but runs his heart out for the team, presses defenders, puts himself about a bit and generally makes a nuisance of himself and cost 10 million is generally regarded as a Labrador but Carlos Tevez, who doesn’t often score but runs his heart out for the team, presses defenders puts himself about a bit and generally makes a nuisance of himself and will cost you around 30 million is regarded as a great professional who puts in the hard yards and is a great team player.
Just trying to think of why Kuyt gets the piss ripped out of him but Tevez doesn’t? If anything Kuyt deserves the plaudits as he’s about 20 million quid cheaper…
Alistair
…Hello,
Am I the only one who just doesnt “get” the love-in about Tevez.
If he played for Liverpool they would call him Dirk Kuyt.
That is all,
Chris (London)
Fergie Has Seen What The Mailbox Has Seen
To all the people who mailed in yesterday asking why no-one saw the similarity between Kuyt and Tevez, I think its safe to say that Fergie has seen it. This would explain his reluctance to splash £30 million on a player who tries his best, but just lacks the necessary quality. Sure, the OT crowd love him, but football crowds can be a bit sentimental and blind to common sense (e.g. Newcastle).
Is Tevez really in the same league as Rooney or Torres? Is he really worth more than two-and-a-bit Arshavins? Course not! Fergie’s no mug (well, not often anyway) and having seen Tevez first-hand for two seasons, it seems he’s decided that the lad isn’t worth the money.
If we could keep him for £10 million or so, then he’d be a useful squad member, but with Macheda, Welbeck and Campbell all looking for a chance, and the possibility of Benzema being available, I can’t say I’m exactly unhappy with what looks to be happening.
Every United fan would wish Tevez well for the future, wherever he goes (unless its Liverpool of course ), but most of the sensible ones who let head rule heart would agree that he’s not worth the asking price, much as we love his Duracell psycho-bunny approach to the game.
Mike Christie, Manchester
I’m glad. He deserves better.
Keansmajichat; and Dave Mack,
statistics are often posted all over the internet.
I’m including 2 links
http://www.premierleague.com/page/ActimIndex
and
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/manutd/4942851/Manchester-United-Football-Club-Statistics.html
Both are very reliable, in fact the Actim Index is the official one, The Premier League uses
Please, note Berbatov’s stats and compare to any other player in the league.
Berba is ranked #5
You can see Tevez’s too as well as Ronaldo’s….. Rooney was absent for weeks due to his injury and that explains, why he’s #22
Hope this opens you eyes for the genius Berbatov is
if tevez goes..fine.if he stays…fine.AIG – Alex is God. Fergie knows best and that even though tevez provides that extra energy and drive in attack, he is pretty woeful in attack.hence,he’s just a squad player at the moment.i agree with keanesmagichat…even though Berba has so much more talent and class than tevez,he hasnt really done much this season and has been totally disappointing.i for one dont give a damn about “flicks”,”hold up play” and “first touch”.we didnt buy him for that.his job is to score goals.in my fantasy world,i would get David Villa.now thats a world class striker.the guy is deadly in front of goal,he’s skilful,his off the ball movement is very good.i think he would make a perfect partner for rooney because both players are very fluid. SAF realizes that tevez can only be a squad player and he knows that Berba is one as well…he’s just giving him time to prove him wrong.
I know this is an old post, but I just went through the majority of the comments, and I must say, I’m with Keanosmagichat on this one….
Just my opinion
Thanks Misterq:
Great sites and very helpful info to use in arguments. (Course most of us don’t let mere facts get in the way of our opinions!)
Just 7 from 12. We’re closing in on three in a row. (Would love to see what a three year table of the top four would look like!!)