With Carlos Tevez being linked with a move to Manchester City there has been plenty of talk surrounding the ‘betrayal’ this would mean to United fans. Andy Cole and Peter Schmeichel went to City when their careers were coming to an end and it was no bother for us. When do players ever leave United at their peak to join City? It just doesn’t happen.
Tevez could be the first player to do this though, with United less desperate than City to pay over the odds for the Argie. Whilst he has declared his love for our club and fans over and has insisted he’s only been thinking about signing for us, it appears as though the love affair is over as quickly as it began.
Still, I think Ian Wright has a fairly inaccurate understanding of United’s feelings on Tevez, if the comments from fans on this blog are anything to go by. He reckons it won’t be considered a betrayal.
Carlos Tevez is understandably in huge demand after a frustrating season for him at Manchester United. Few can cross the Manchester divide without unleashing a relentless torrent of bile. Fans consider that as unforgivable disloyalty in most cases. But Tevez is one of a small number who could get away with it. If he leaves Manchester United this summer, he should go to Manchester City.
Tevez has done enough to show he is desperate to play for United but, unbelievably, the powers-that-be can’t make up their minds whether to sign him permanently. So it wouldn’t look as if he had jumped ship if he left Old Trafford for Eastland’s. He would join a swell of big-name players hoping to bring great things to the club.
You can’t say you love United and the fans and then a month or two later sign for their rivals. That’s not how it works. What is it with these fucking Argies?
Whilst I’m sure there would be some sections of our support who wouldn’t give Tevez a hard time if he was wearing City’s blue, I would imagine the vast majority would have something to say about it. Our feelings towards him have soured as it is and that’s even without him signing for the bitters.
Would United fans let Tevez off this ‘unforgiveable disloyalty’? I’d fucking hope not!
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Well..It isn’t betrayal, to be true to the word. He’s not ditching us for city, so to speak. Its more a case of robinho, where he just wants to leave and will take any offer that comes by. But he can’t possibly hope the fans will continue to have a soft corner for him after joining city..
He never was actually our player. He was on loan to us.
Ian Wright is a buffoon.
@alphars: if we was our player, this whole episode wouldn’t have happened.
I don’t exactly consider it a betrayal.He was never one of us outside the pitch.The minute he used the fans to get a fat contract(almost at the expense of the team winning the title against Arsenal) he proved that he is a shity character who doesn’t deserve to wear the shirt.And that will be my opinion if he stays on.I will cheer for him in the 90 minutes,but other than that, he is dead to me. You don’t feel betrayed by someone like that.
Not good enough. Adios.
Here’s just what my natural instincts are telling me to do : When i think about Tevez coming back to Old Trafford in a blue city shirt, id boo the guy give him a whole load of stick. Ronaldo coming back on the other hand I think that he deserves a warm welcome.
100% bang on the button Costas. was going to post something along those lines myself, but you did it better than i could.
Tevez means nothing to me, i would never have thought last summer that it would be the case, but hes clearly not the man we thought he was. I don’t want him wearing our jersey.
Hmm. And then there’s Judas Heinze. Now Real are looking to offload him, there is always the possibility that he might get his desired way and end up dipping bins.
Mind you, considering Glen Johnson looks like he wants to go out thieving, the bright side is now no room at the inn for Heinze.
The thing with Tevez is that he is thick, he is led around like a gimp cash cow by Kia Joorabchian like the fool he is.
Kia tells him united have treated him badly, and Calos thinks “oh yes they have” so he asks for a move another fee for Joorabchian, he will do the same again if or when City fail to play European football next season I can sense it.
He needs to grow up and stand on his own two feet and think for himself, because leaving us is foolish, but we all know that.
well, like Alpha_RS has said, he was never our player, and we didn’t give a good account of ourselves by stretching the payment issue, and waiting (yet again) till City came in, and only then decided to pay up.
Obviously, in said circumstances, a player has the right to feel that he is being taken for granted, a situation no human being can enjoy. I am afraid if we want players to treat us well, we at least need to treat them well, and by WE i don’t mean the fans, but the club, David Gill, and the corporate side of the club who have to be dealing with these matters. Not up to scratch, i must say.
fuck off Carlito
He has been treated well, he has been paid £75k a week, won two league championships, European Cup as well as vice European cup holders, league cup winner and has played almost the same amount of game time as the others, and he scored 5 league goals, who has been treated badly him or us?
Let him go. Give a promising youngster the chance. We have plenty to chose from.
I agree Alpha, we have so many decent young players at the club lets give them a chance, we could spend £30+m on Benzema when Macheda could be as good, £60m on Ribery when Tosic might be good option, £25m on Tevez when Petrucci or Welbeck might be as good, you never know unless you give them a chance.
but united have given tevez a contract offer… if he has rejected it for the one in favor of man citeh it is betrayal whatever the reasons are… dont u agree?
I will admit that David Gill and the board are no innocent parties in all this.I remember very well,Gill saying that it would be resolved by December of 08 at the latest.Maybe the economic crisis changed their minds, but they should have been honest about it.But Carlos rarely spoke against them.He targeted the manager personally.That’s why he became an unpopular figure.What was SAF supposed to do?Rely on a player who might not be here next year?And if SAF,with 35 years of management behind him,feels that Berbatov is better than Tevez, he knoews what he is doing.
@Stephen
Spot on mate. Let’s give our youngsters a chance to develop.
I actually think we do need Benzema more than any other player.
Let Tevez go though. He is a very good hard working player.
But will never be a great player. We could use Macheda, Wellbeck, Tosic, Nani instead. Give the kids a chance. Ronaldo had that chance and look what he achieved.
The funniest thing I heard was he was ruling out a move to liverpool “out of respect to utd fans” but felt a move to wastelands would somehow not be disrepectful. After complaining about not being played in important games then moving to the bitters seems like a “gareth Barry” inspired move.
Strange logic.
I won’t be happy about it, of course, but it’ll be nothing compared to the feelings I have for Ince, Heinze or Ronaldo. Tevez will fall into the category of Alan Smith, for example – a player I loved but who was not in Fergie’s plans for the future, so he was ditched off. So it’s all going to depend on what he does after that – if he starts kissing the badge and showing disrespect to United, I’ll boo him, otherwise I’ll be neutral.
id be pissed if drinkwater went from united to city
tevez hasnt got a chance of forgivness in my mind if he went there
i still remember scotts headline over a photo of sparky holding a city jersey with his name on the back
“vomit in the mouth”
scott WTF seriously you are out of touch with most fans on this subject
Mate how is he out of touch?
Tevez whined about United not acknowledging his contribution and value to the team. But he also said he loved the club, loved the fans and didn’t want to leave. At the same time he said he wanted to play more minutes and criticized Fergie for his tactics in the CL final. Tevez is just really repugnant, I’m beginning to think he’s a woman in disguise…
Bye bye Tevez, have fun with Bellamy and the gang.
Tevez is a badge kisser if he loved the club and fans so much he wouldent even think about a move to shitty or the scouse filth. fuck him
side note anyone watch wwe raw last night
what was the story with MVP heading out in a united jersey
off topic of my side note
looking for eric is a freeking excellent film
@GHTT
Good marketing by the Glazers but the look of things!
YOU COULD BE RIGHT
THEY DIDNT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT IT HE JUST WORE IT DOWN TO THE RING LIKE IT WAS A WWE TSHIRT
VERY STRANGE
It would be unforgivable if he joined the dippers and helped them in a title push. Joining Citeh is clearly about money even if Tevez says it’s about respect. Him and his little rat want the big chedder and they know only citeh are daft enough to give it to them. I’ll never support him in any shirt once he leaves United and while i respect all he has done in terms of scoring goals I still don’t think he appreciates that united is, and will be the greatest club he could have ever played for. He wants to piss it all away by moving to a shit house, well i guess that’s his destiny then.
It’ll be comical to see him in the sky blue with the other overpaid fools and while i won’t hate him for it, he will certainly have lost any respect i had for him.
Tevez is smarter than we think. He’s getting his own back at Sir Alex, while retaining some sympathies from ManU fans AND about to get 140,000 big ones per week AND gets to play every week. This should work out to another 10,000 or so per week if he puts in the goals as he is apt to do. Not bad for a disgrunted ex-player.
Tevez & Ronaldo both showed their true colours when they reacted badly to substitutions. That attitude is a virus that would take us from a great club to another Chelsea. No; goodbye Tevez, you never really got it about Man U, did you?
Honestly, I’m past caring about rat-faced Tevez, he can go to the bitter blues for all I care, he’s always got his back to defenders, his clumsy attempts to get past defenders etc…….RESIGN GIUSEPPE ROSSI
Of course it would be betrayal, but that’s as much about how he’s conducted himself as anything else, especially all those whingeing interviews at crucial stages last season. Going to City would just be the final straw.I’d much rather see United give more chances to the kids than get panicked into spending over the odds on Tevez. I’m sick of players thinking it’s all about them, rather than the team.
Can’t wait for the Tevez and Ronaldo sage to be over. These two are becoming very, very boring.
http://blogs.soccernet.com/boltonwanderers/archives/2009/06/reasons_to_be_cheerful.php
totally off topic but a fine article.
DanS, what would we talk about then!!!!! lol
GHTT i just watched MVP,lol.Don’t know the story behind it,but he would make a great midfield enforcer.
I’d forgive him, it doesn’t seem as though we’re trying enough to sign him and now Ronaldo might be leaving we’re considering signing him, loyalty works both ways, if you don’t feel wanted why should you stay? Tevez isn’t the sharpest tool and will always speak his mind, his commitment on the field has been second to none and if we really wanted him, we’d've bought him straight away, but we don’t feel he’s worth the amount and no doubt we’re not going to bid what City will and so he’ll go there, he gave us two good years, we didn’t take up the option and he’s left, no hard feelings whatsoever from my point of view.
Does anyone have the link to MVP’s entrance??
Raw comes only tomorrow for me and I’ll probably forget…
SIGN ME UP FERGIE SIGN ME UP
@Boogeyman:
I don’t have a link to the entrance alone. Just go and check this video after the 5:30 mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEaYgqfend8&feature=PlayList&p=D208DDC46264DC1E&index=0
@Giuseppe Rossi
I wish he would, but apparently you want to play in Italy.
I dont care who you are or where you come from, but if you play for Citeh you are a dead set Wanker.
We never owned him
City willing to pay more
He’s helped us win plenty of silverware in his loan period
City willing to match his wage demands
Can stay in the same area in which he has settled
We should be able to sign somebody else instead with the money
Good luck to him even though he’s going downhill
To me it’s not about we owned him or not, not even about him joining Citeh. But because he made us fall in love with him, only to act that …… grrr….
I am mad… I cant forgive him.. He even made some of us embarrass SAF.
Betrayal of the first degree!
I saw MVP. I think he had a UTD shirt on because in February he went on Soccer AM and said then that UTD were his favourite “soccer” team.
Don’t know why he decided to wear it to the ring. Maybe just to get people talking.
Tevez. You are not needed. If you watch the Asia pre-season tour you will see that a class act called Berbatov is better than you in most areas of the game. Have fun at Wastelands.
Anyone but Liverpool.
whatever said and done.. the fans interrupting saf’s speech singing fergie sign me him up was f8kin d disgrace
If he loves our fans so much there is no way he would even consider a move to any club in the EPL. If he truly loved us like he says he would not consider City or Liverpool!
http://www.setanta.com//uk/Articles/Football/2009/06/16/Liga-Rossi-on-Milan/gnid-57195/
i doubt he’d go to Juve now…..maybe a good sign for us?
Well, It looks like he may now become a Chelsea rent boy after all.
Just seen Tevez down in print works with Terry Phelan and Franny Lee. Hope they all choke on their Pina Colada’s.
If the guy signs for City or Liverpool it shows he dosen’t give a fuck about United or the fans.
He obviously dosen’t want to stay at United so let him go.He’s not worth losing too much sleep over.
Ex-Gooner Ian Wright is a stupid stupid cunt. Simple as …..
Got a fucking gob on him like those two faggot pansy’s Clary and Norden from off the tele ….
you know the sort of gob you would like to smack…..
even MOTD fucked him off when they found out what a gobby little cunt he is.
As for Tevez if he fucks off to Shitty just proves he was after money.
King George the Switzer, it’s high time someone said it, and you did. Tevez is not good enough. He’s a busy worker bee with some skill that we see now and again. Most of the time against top notch opposition he’s easily cut off. In Europe he’s never a feature because he’s predictable and ineffective. He and Ronaldo spent the latter part of the season playing for themselves, not for United. The reason Ferguson isn’t spending the money on Tevez is because he knows United need, and can get, better. So he can go wherever he likes.
Now the sad reality has settled in, that like we always thought and expected but maybe I was never prepared for, Ronaldo has left, It has given a clear vision of the great goals he scored for us. The last minute goal at Fulham stands out, the free-kick at Portsmouth and not forgetting the Champions League.
The clearest thing of all is that this guy was always leaving and we continued to let him be and support him, finally he’s gone and I feel a weight has been lifted off of my United supporting shoulders.
The energy that he has taken from me, in all greatness all glory and all frustration, really reminds me of the feeling you get from looking after an old, frail, seriously ill, old person.
Maybe you’ve not experienced it but the frustration you get is caused by sadness and disbelief of what you are witnessing. Somebody who has given so much, no longer functioning in the way you’ve grown accustomed to.
I for one, do not want to give it another go.
Tevez switched on and off those feelings one time too many for me. I think he’s a great little player who the fans love, a lot of them love him for his effort as Fergie said. I think if he stays I will forgive him, it’d be natural but right now I want him to go and I want to feel a freshness wash over me once more.
Negativity in our Club, which Ronaldo has drawn to us more than no other in recent times, needs to be ended and that won’t happen if Tevez stays.
I agree. All this whining, questioning the way this club is run and trying to turn the fans against the one man above any and all reproach needs to end. Man City will be playing the brunt of meaningless games this season that comes with midtable mediocrity. We’ll see how Tevez likes cold rainy trips to Hull when it doesn’t matter if you win or lose. My guess is he’ll do what he has done in the past. Whinge and moan and demand a transfer.
On tevez: Club b4 player so goodbye and thanks for the memories — While Rossi is a jerseyshore bitch-traitor, I heard that our deal with villareal had a clause where we could buy him back for if we paid over a certain transfer fee.
Also we’re apparently about to sign Douglas Costa from gremio. He’s good,his touch is awesome and he’s fast.
Ian Wright is a c*nt.
He did say he loves the club and the fans, it is just that Fergie “betrayed” him. If Fergie never trust his ability anymore, it is difficult to stay. Top footballers always want to play more, not play some bit-part role, not sit on the bench most of the time, not play mostly in small games, not being substituted mostly at 60 minutes in the games, not being a sub for others most of the time. Tevez was wasted like that for the whole 2008/2009 season. He should have shined as one of the best players in the world but got wasted sitting on the bench. Fergie shouldn’t have done that to him just to keep down his value. That is betrayal to him, to use a harsh word (but I never like blaming and try not to blame anyone including Fergie and the club’s lack of sincerity.).
I can understand his predicament, there4 I will miss him if he leaves, it doesn’t matter where he goes.
The funny thing is, he really means it from his heart when he said he loves the club and the fan, but how about some of the fans instead? Trust me, some fans NEVER LIKE him from the beginning, either they are biased or anti-Argie or something else. Now these “bizarre” fans DEMAND Tevez should love the club and fans, but in turn they NEVER LIKE him anyway. So, sincerely ask yourselves one question, DO YOU LIKE HIM ALL THIS TIME (out of gratitude or other reasons)?
If you do, there is pointless hating him now. You just let your emotion or “tribal” overcome you. That is just foolish. Understand his predicament first.
If you never like him no matter what, then you have no right to judge him, because no matter how you judge him all those things simply come from your little biased brain. LIVE HIM ALONE!
At the end of the day, I will miss him, and be grateful with him, no matter what.
That’s an overly simplistic view. Fans appreciated his work rate and energy and believed he truly wanted to be here. However, his incessant whining and comments made since the derby match and continuing after we won the title at home have changed peoples minds.
Answer this. Which clubs are linked with Tevez now? Chelsea, Liverpool, City, Milan, Madrid (for a while). Which of these clubs linked themselves to Tevez and which of them did Tevez link himself to? At no point this season has a club or manager came out and said they would love to sign him or express an interest. All the noise has come from Joorabchian and Tevez trying to link themselves with as many clubs as possible.
Tevez has shown that he cannot lead the line himself, he cannot play with Berbatov, he is not a ruthless finisher a la RvN, he is a distraction to the rest of the team and cannot be a role player without throwing a strop and demanding his own way. Tevez severely miscalculated that he would be able to use the fans’ affections and chanting to force his own will on the club. Sorry mate, you aren’t bigger than the club or the manager now go away.
http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/2009/06/17/why-carlos-tevez-wont-be-missed-at-old-trafford
WHAT A JOKE!
Teves is the only player in the MAN UNITED team that was won everything in 2 continents except for a World Cup (senior level).
People tend to quickly forget, that if it wasn’t for Teves late mint goals Man United would not have had double glory last season.
People also tend to forget how he saved West Hams ASS and lets get one thing right, it’s not about the MONEY, its about the lack of RESPECT shown to a world glass player ( not by the fans who LOVE him) but by the “old man” as carlitos put it, Sir Alex.
NO Cr7 + NO Teves = LESS GLORY!
Don’t blame teves, blame thye people on TOP.
CAN YOU GUYS SEE THIS: “Tevez has done enough to show he is desperate to play for United but, unbelievably, the powers-that-be can’t make up their minds whether to sign him permanently. So it wouldn’t look as if he had jumped ship if he left Old Trafford for Eastland’s. He would join a swell of big-name players hoping to bring great things to the club”?