Manchester United fans were left to feel aggrieved that the Glazers were insisting on charging our fans normal price for our FA Cup 5th Round game against non-league Crawley Town. My seats cost £41.
Our neighbours took on League One Notts County today in the FA Cup 4th Round replay and like the last round, charged just £15 for adults, £5 for children. These kind of ticket prices are the envy of any red but like the Glazers would tell you, it’s all about supply and demand. Against Leicester, just 27,755 fans showed up, 6,000 of them supporting the away team.
Despite the ridiculously high prices at Old Trafford yesterday, 74,778 attended the game. Despite the ridiculously cheap prices at Wastelands today, just 27,276 fans showed up, 6,000 of them supporting the away team. That means there were just 21,276 City fans in the ground and 20,550 empty seats.
For the price I paid for Crawley yesterday, a family of four could have attended Wastelands today with £1 to spend on the blue ketchup. It begs the question, if Manchester is blue, like City fans hilariously claim, why do they not go and watch them play? Mancini put almost a full strength side out, in contrast to the 2nd XI United fans watched yesterday, yet only 21,276 would pay the £5-£15 required for a ticket.
The city is yours, the city is yours, 20,000 empty seats, are you fucking sure?
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well said scott
How long before the bitters come on here moaning, our attendance was what 74k so take away Crawleys 9k and we still mustered 65k fans and City want to expand the council house ffs.
The picture tells the story……
Sums them up. A shit club with money. A bigger club like everton would of made more out of the unlimited funds than the bitters have. They have spent a billion and there still shit. If they really want to create a future for themselves then they should invest in the academy, just as fergie did 20 odd years ago, the rest is history.
Love United, Hate Glazers, Laugh at Shitty.
ayl city are just taking cantonas advice by making tickets affordable to the working man
Anyone who knows the all time low for a premier league home tie in the fourth round?
They’ve got moody Balotelli in a fucking snood
they’ve got moody Balotelli in a fucking snood
they’ve got moody Balotelli in a fucking snood
oh City are a massive club
They were on Talkshite saying they are the Best supported club in Manchester. Looks like it.
What a Comedy Club they are.
Bring on the Gooners.
Willie. Ha. Nice one pal
Its not even funny now. They truly are a shithouse small club. Fifteen fucking quid is a piss take. Does it not worry the owners the fact they cannot give tickets away? God I fucking hate the blue cunts. Twenty fucking thousand is laughable. What’s with the sofy bastards having hot water bottles on the subs bench. Embarrasing. Then you have them interviewing players pre match talking about tyhe project. What the fuck? Since when did football clubs become projects? Its siockening it really is.
Truly a comedy club.
Lolest ..the City is RED not blue! And never will period…
@ willie and king eric … top posts! what’s that about blue ketchup? is that for real? hahahaha! And this shit about “the project” fucking kills me.
it really is PATHETIC but the thing is loads of people around the country really do believe that most peple in manchester are shitty fans ! this is partly cos they’ve spread the lie for so long & partly cos the media love the idea n it makes a good story. someone once “said why let the truth get in the way of a good story” probably a sun journalist lol. maybe we should start a big campaign to expose em ? or is knowing the truth enough.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_coDtKp_9QY
MASSIVE
More city are shit chants please!
i must have taken idiot pills this morning@rastamonsta don’t get the point of the link on this blog mate
wayne – Ditto. What was that all about? Made my ears bleed.
@rastamonsta
Have you really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Guerilla marketing. Interesting angle by rastamonsta. A more interesting angle would be to have even an ounce of talent and produce this kind of shite, pack it up and go home son.
‘Big’ is only the over inflated dumb heads city fans carry over their shoulders. Absolute shit history, present and fuck all future… Trust me the biggest laugh we will have is when Sh Mansour pulls the plug on his toy…
Pathetic excuse for a football club, even worse, pathetic excuse for fans to call themselves blues …..
Tiny little shadows in our image is all you will ever be
get innnnnnnnnnnn lol another game for the ARSE
Orient scored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
comon leyton!
Don’t count the small teams out eh lads?
@Rai
so true, almoust happened to us yesterday aswell!
to bad leyton couldnt get the winner. or put it this way, if le arse didnt score, and only leyton did. that would have been class
The Arsesnoods didn’t like their trip on the Orient express.
So does that anything for us, I mean have Arsenal time to get the replay in before the next round?
tie is the best result for utd
Good goal from the Leyton Orient. Will be a big payday from them. It’s funny when it doesn’t happen to your team
. Another game for Arse is good news for us.
I meant it’s funny when it happens to OTHER team
Marseille on Gignac’s Injury:
“It’s not very serious but, unless there is a miracle, there is little chance of seeing him against Manchester.”
Oh, you mean there is 2 teams in Manchester?
The stadium was sold out, over 100,000 people all packed in to see City. I don’t care about your pictures or your “official attendance”.
mick summerbee is a handi tard
The annoying thing is, that no one in the press or media will mention the 20,000
plastic blue seats, but if it was at OT they would make a big thing of it.
Our support is fantastic, whatever anyone else says !!!!
We get no credit at all, whereas Citys are portrayed as true supporters,
it really pisses me off.
Mike Summerbee nice one but I dont go for statistics.
Leighton Baines sinks Chelsea
Leyton Orient dooms Arsenal
Mike Summerbee, lol.
Evertonians spread it about that No LiverScum fans live in Mersyside. The Rat Munchers also call Everton Bitters, see the resemblance to both teams? Don’t know many Everton fans but I wonder if they are as deluded as our Bitters.
You couldn’t make it up….. my girlfriend doesn’t know much about football but even she asked me during the Citeh game “why is the Citeh stadium half empty?” quality, top girl!
one of your better ones scott…
james21
HUGE difference between Everton fans and the bitters………. The blue half of Mersyside have tradition and history… Furthermore they have true loyalty to their team…. Nothing can be compared between them and the bitters mate
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Good Point Ceders.
STR. Understand you are bitter about paying £41. But feel it is well beneath this great blog not to have a video of Browns Goal vs the Critters. Please honor the captain on the day for a proper captains goal.
Creepy Crawleys sent back down the road, even pleased with themselves, but still packing it in.
UNITED 1 CREEPY CRAWLEY 0 (nawt, zed, zip)
Get it sorted.
A goal is a goal and should be up on this site.
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blus cunts are a embarrassment to manchester,win the lottery but still have no class
blue
Hairy cunts are ok, though. Joke! Before the RoM police arrive to spout their shite.
this subject has been done to death more than the glazers, but its no suprise because united are bigger and more populer club than shitty simple has that
@Goat
Try and Knock the price down. He Appears to be desperate to sell.
If United offered cup tickets for 15.00 and 5.00 – payment on the day, there would be
100,000 trying to get in.
The thing is, City fans are not embarrased at all about this, just been on the
Evening News city page, to see the fans reaction to the attendance, and to
them its not an issue, hardly any of them mention it, apart from Reds taking the piss !!!!
They always will be a small club
Bitter BumbleBee strikes again!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1358859/Manchester-United-better-media-coverage-City-complains-Mike-Summerbee.html?
they are a joke, Im actually embarressed for them, they claim there is “nothing between city and United now” yet with all there MASSIVE star players out on show, cheap prices and the tallest floodlights in the football league they had 20,000 empty seats. what a bunch of clowns.
We paid for their home,
We paid for their home,
What a waste of council tax
We paid for their home!
They don’t even go,
They don’t even go,
What a waste of council tax
They don’t even go!
not a big fan of hairy cunts
Mike summerbee. Quality post.
Hairy cunts = Gorilla Salad
Mufcok. Likewise.
Costas – what did he expect, shitty are up against a juggernaught. Shitty have the cash but they do not have the size
Shaved = smooth much more to my liking…. fuck the 80′s and hairy women, had enough of them! lol
Prime rib, with a bristle Cedars?
@Costas
Nice link
Summerbee said He turned over to Antiques roadshow. Is that because he was being valued on it?
He really is just another one of those little vile Bitters. Fergie Respects Shitty and think he paid them Respect with the teams he put out home and away. Typical shitty fan, the project isn’t working so they start mouthing off at Utd when its them making all the predictions and what they’ll do.
More with just the bristle Willie, by the time you got to the prime rib you forgot what you were munching on……….. lol!
depending on age not always prime rib shaved or not
My ticket cost £36 and I’m sure that UTD have to ensure that the away team get their fair share of the money and you would expect Crawley to want thiers I guess if they offered discounts then UTD would have to divvy up for any shortfall, like that would ever happen, City on the other hand, well its not a problem for them is it.
After we put them in thier place about the derby this couldnt have been timed any better, a few us where huddled round an I-phone towards halftime on Saturday watching the seconds tick by as City officially went to 35 years without a trophy, fingers crossed for 36.
On Summerbee, he looks dazed and confused, as if someone has let him out of the old peoples home. Muttering, the media favours United. Yeah right Summerbee! Never heard of the term, ABU!
Teams like Citeh should be fined for having so many empty seats, OR better still moved to smaller grounds to better accomodate their smaller fanbase. The only rreason that shitty are becoming noisier is because of their rich owners. The moment the Glazers finally walk the plank we’ll blow them out of the water.
lol its like all the youngsters picking on grandad at xmas because he’s had a few
It’s the inferiority complex City have always had with United. They can’t accept we’re bigger than them, so then the delusion and bitterness sets in after a while. Kind of feel sorry for them, It can’t be easy, being in Uniteds shadow.
Summerbee is such an old and deluded bitter, no class whatsoever…… Want to know the difference between our clubs? Just put Summerbee and Sir Bobby in the same room… FFS the divide will be so big its unheard of………….. A low life wanna be versus a genius who has made history and is history himself. Please forgive me Sir Bobby for even putting that prick in the same sentence as you but hell we do need to keep them cunts in their place do we not?
Let’s have a bit more clarity here. United fans are forced to pay for their FA Cup tickets. Do people believe we’d get close to full attendance if that wasn’t the case? Eastlands would have more fans attend if the club tied its fans into a contract like United so brazenly does.
To offer some perspective, our attendance against Wolves in the fourth round of the Carling Cup was 46083. Is Crawley in the FA Cup alluring enough to justify nearly 30,000 more fans? I doubt it. Fans not being obligated to pay for Carling Cup tickets seems a more likely excuse, and, given the chance, I’m sure they would have voted with their feet against Crawley. £41? Robbing bastards.
Whilst City’s attendance was pitiful, I’d much prefer to see lower attendances at United – granted, they wouldn’t be as dramatic as City’s, and maybe they’d fill those seats by offering fair prices – than see the club persistently extort those already committed to a season ticket.
Instead of seeing this as being indicative of the chasm that separates the clubs’ respective local fan bases, I’m more inclined to take it as a cue to bemoan their insular rule over the club.
smartalex
Where are you mate? You are missed here
@Scott
“Manchester United fans were left to feel aggrieved that the Glazers were insisting on charging our fans normal price for our FA Cup 5th Round game against non-league Crawley Town.”
The Glazers have interest repayments to keep up.
Hi Bebeto, I wonder how long it would it take, you are only right to a point, yes the Auto cup scheme is a pain in the ass but all fans if they so wish can sell thier tickets on via viagogo, add in the fact that there are around 45,000 season ticket holders so if everyone of those attended the add in the 9000 Crawley brought up you still have 20,000 that chose to attend, no are you going to suggest that if UTD fans “didnt have to go” that the crowd would be less than yours, what was the gate against Juve you plank.
I for one was looking forward to seeing Crawley as an ST holder theres was no way I wasn’t going, this is the FA cup you twat.
@Bebeto forgive me if i’m wrong but going to more games gives the fan a better chance of getting tickets for the finals,big away games etc,so the fact utds season ticket base is so high don’t think it would matter if the glaziers imposed rules or not fans would still show up.
@Bebeto … don’t get me wrong, because I understand what you’re saying and I’m not trying to defend United’s ticket prices or policies. But in a sense, United fans aren’t really being *forced* to pay for anything. They are being put in a situation where if they want tickets for some matches, then they have to buy tickets for other types of matches as well. But they are aware of this upfront, and they are free to object by buying nothing at all, and yet many of them still shell out the money anyway.
The 30,000 “extra” fans who turned up for the Crawley match (as opposed to the smaller number who turned out for the Carling Cup match) did in fact pay to see that match (and they paid a lot, too). Not only that, but having bought the tickets (for whatever reason), they still bothered to turn out for the match — if they really had no interest in the match, they could have stayed home. If they had to buy the tickets either way, then it wouldn’t have made any difference to them financially if they stayed home. In fact, they would have saved a little by staying home, since ticket prices aren’t the only costs associated with going to a match.
It’s a bit like my cable TV provider. Because there are certain premium channels that I want, I have to buy a whole damn sports pack–even though I don’t want most of the channels that come in the pack. And yes, I think it sucks–but I have the choice not to buy anything, and I choose to buy it anyway. But having paid for it, that doesn’t mean I have to actually watch those other channels, does it?
The reason I’m pointing this out is not to defend the ticket prices or policies, but only to illustrate that Scott really does have a point with his article.
@Bebeto
It was £15 Quid for the game they have Europa for £20 or so. The place was empty yet they tell us Manchester is full of Shitty fans and they are the Best fans in the country. Total Bollox all round theres no excuse for it. They are shite and their fans are shite, thats the point.
“This was ultimately a satisfying night for Manchester United, who will go into the fifth round courtesy of another demonstration of Javier Hernández’s qualities inside the penalty area, but it was also an evening when it was difficult to escape the sense that the club’s owners are faced with mutiny from their own supporters. The vast swathes of empty seats – around 30,000 in total – told their own story.
To put it into context, the attendance of 46,083 was the second lowest here since the turn of the century, and 5,000 below the attendance when they faced Wolves in the third round of this competition last season.”
That was this season. A testament to United’s local fan base, right?
Oh, and I’m not a Man City fan, but I figure it’s inevitable that anybody who disagrees with the author is labelled as such.
StatesideAussie, I understand your point, but I honestly don’t believe that staying away from a game of your club that you’ve paid £41 for is tantamount to not watching a game on TV of a team you’re indifferent to.
NO Bebeto you get laballed a city fan cos you sounded like one, you don’t even consider that the FA Cup is more important than the league cup also I remember going to the UTD v West Brom game just after Bestie passed on and that wasn’t anywhere near full either. So you have the Carling Cup V Wolves a competition no one gives a shit about unless your team is in the final compared to the FA Cup.
@Bebeto don’t understand what you’re saying mate the official attendence was 74,778 whats the 46.000 attendence
Only shame about being a blue in Manchester is BEING a blue in Manchester….
No use hiding it, we may feel sorry for you and I say MAY
Bebeto isn’t a city fan but talks like one
Now they won’t even own up to supporting the club
OHH THE CIRCUS IS EMPTY
Bebeto … ok, obviously there’s a difference between the two, but still, no-one forced those 30,000 people to turn up and watch. As others have pointed, they could have sold the tickets to others, or they could have stayed home or done something else. It’s a pretty common tactic for sports teams: often, the only way you can get to see key matches (like play-off matches in the US) is to buy some sort of package that also includes matches you don’t want to see. That doesn’t mean you have to attend those matches as well, just because you have tickets (and many people don’t).
In fact, this raises an interesting angle. The reason many clubs do this is because for some matches, the demand for tickets is much greater than the availability of seats. This puts the club in a position where they can “raise the bar” for entry into those games, by bundling in tickets for less popular matches. In a way, they are making sure that the most dedicated fans (the ones who more likely to want to go to almost any match) are those with the best chance of also going to the matches that in most demand. The point being, that these clubs can only do this because they have a strong fan base, where demand outweighs supply for a significant portion of their games.
But the inverse is also true: clubs with a weaker fan base can’t do this, because they wouldn’t get away with it. They’d be shooting themselves in the foot, because unless there is very strong demand for enough matches, people simply buy into those deals. Why would I buy a season ticket for wastelands when I can see the council flat’s half empty most of the time, and when I know that even for the 2 or 3 big matches that I really want to watch in a year, I’ve still got a pretty good chance of getting a ticket on matchday (even if I have to pay a little extra just for those 2 or 3 games)? In other words, the reason shitty don’t do the same thing as United is very simple: it’s because they can’t, because they don’t have a strong enough fan base! (Because trust me, if they thought they could get away with it, they bloody well would. Just as any businessman would.)
oops, “They’d be shooting themselves in the foot, because unless there is very strong demand for enough matches, people simply *WON’T* buy into those deals.”
Can you imagine the clamour for tickets if UTD sold them at £15 for adults and £5 for kids, Christ you’d be fighting them off with a shit covered stick, citeh on the other hand!!!!
If Utd charged £15 for the League cup games When SAF Decides to play the fringe players then I’m sure it would fill the Ground. Shitty played a fullish strength team today so on show was the Best of the Project and they didn’t turn up. Bebeto hasn’t got a point here because the point is that Shitty only charged 15 quid and 5 for kids just to try and fill it up and it didn’t work. They are such a small club with the most deluded fans.
@james … right. I doubt United would do that though (charge 15 quid for the league cup games) because it would be contrary to their pricing strategy, and that wouldn’t be worth it just to fill the stadium on those days. Besides, I believe they have to announce pricing in advance of when SAF names his team. Even though he usually does play the youngsters for the league cup, he wouldn’t want to be locked into doing that just because some abacus-twiddler in the business office dropped the prices in order to fill the stadium. If they dropped the prices like that, and then SAF ran out a stronger team, they’d have to call mattbw7 for some of those shit-covered sticks lol…
I’m curious about something else too. I’m wondering whether shitty also has a give-away program for tickets, you know, to schools or other organizations. I bet that at least some of the people who showed up yesterday had free tickets, or didn’t even pay the measly 15/5 quid. And I bet there were people who got freebies who didn’t bother to go anyway. I’d love to know those numbers!
cedars missing alex
cedars missing alex
cedars miissing alexxxxxx
and so say all of us…..nearly….
Anyway fuck the bitter bastards
fuck their Manager
fuck their players
and fuck the colour blue……
Yeah, City have a program for tickets, that’s why It’s always empty, bar when they play United.
Jeez…looks like I missed a great topic this afternoon….to shave or not shave that is the question…..
wayne, it’s the attendance against Wolves in the Carling Cup earlier on in the season. I’ve actually accept the variables that might see a greater attendance in an FA Cup game, such as it being played on a Saturday, being the FA Cup, and being a later round, but I still don’t see that justifying a disparity of nearly 30,000.
Additionally, as some have taken offence to being compared to City, I didn’t actually do that. City’s attendances are poor, and under the same circumstances there’s nothing to suggest that they’d manage what United did. They wouldn’t. I’m simply stating that United’s figures are flattering, and it certainly isn’t as simple as the article suggests.
Woman goes to the Doctors with a foul smelling wind problem…..
Whilst she is being examined internally she lets one rip and the Doc leaves the room….
He comes back in with a 6′ stick with a big hook on the end….
When she sees it she screams at him….
”What the hell have you got that thing for… I hope you are not going to use that on me”
”Certainly not”, says the Doc , ” I need to open the window….. it fucking stinks in here”
It is simple Bebeto, City could only Muster 20,00 fans for a game where they charged £15 to get in considering this is their most realistic chance of Silverware you’d fucking expect them to turn up seeing as most of em live in Manchester!!!
@StatesideAussie
I was using it as a for instance. Utd wouldn’t and more than likely couldn’t. Shitty fans say they are the best most loyal fans but even though the club GIVE away tickets at 15 quid they can’t fill the Ground. They don’t even need to pay to travel because all their fans are from Manchester So a Quick walk up Oldham Rd taking in a few pubs on the way probably an hour at a slow stagger and you’re there. Spent:- £15 and a few Pints it doesn’t really break the bank now ,does it?
They are deluded shite all of them and don’t like to admit the Project aint working.
@statesideAussie- uve got brains!! @bebeto-dnt know f u a dump or what bt thyz something wrong with u period….
@mattbw7
Its like flogging a dead Horse.
Manchester is RED!!
Are those prices typical for shitty tickets? At those prices, and with those attendance figures, there’s no way they can cover their players’ wages. And it’s not like they’ve got a worldwide fan base buying shitloads of merchandise either. The sorry cunts must be losing money hand over fist. Which, in accounting terms, means they are “in the red”. lol. So their financial statements are written in red, and the city they live in is red. No matter which you look at it, Manchester is red!
Nah Stateside they typically offer cut price tickets to encourage bigger audiences for “lower” games and I thought it was about supporting your own team lol and they still hae the banner that reads we’re not really here!!!
“Additionally, as some have taken offence to being compared to City, I didn’t actually do that. City’s attendances are poor, and under the same circumstances there’s nothing to suggest that they’d manage what United did. They wouldn’t. I’m simply stating that United’s figures are flattering, and it certainly isn’t as simple as the article suggests.”
Again, not comparing the two. United’s figures will always be better than City’s. With respect to United’s figures, for reasons mentioned, the article is somewhat disingenuous.
They offer Europa Packages like 3 games for about £20 a game and it still doesn’t fill it. They Played Juventus and it still wasn’t full. Not actually sure what a Premier League home game costs at Wastelands. If Monsour has to Break even and prove that the club is self sufficient then I’m not overly sure how he’s going to do it. There was talk of upping the Ground capacity to bring in more revenue, so do Empty seats have to pay to sit there unused?
bottomline same city same cup,utd charging full price 74,778 city discounted price 27.276,yeah manchester is blue alright
Bebeto – You’re spot on mate. ACS is a load of bollocks. It isn’t easy to get rid of tickets for the smaller games anymore. A few years ago is wasn’t a problem now you’ll end up making a loss on the less attractive games.
Can’t see the Arabs, or Roman ever breaking even. Chelsea are hemorrhaging money ffs.
Well, the ACS scheme may be bollocks, but that doesn’t change what I said: they are doing because they can, and the reason that they can, is that out fanbase is so strong that even when schemes like ACS and ticket prices in general piss some of some fans, there’s someone standing in line ready to open their wallet. So whatever anyone thinks of their business practices, it still is a clear sign of how fucking popular we are.
And, by the same token, the fact that shitty is a clear sign of how fucking popular they are NOT, because if they could do it, they would. In a heartbeat.
bleh! fucked that up, reposting ….
Well, the ACS scheme may be bollocks, but that doesn’t change what I said: they are doing it because they can, and the reason that they can, is that our fanbase is so strong that even when high ticket prices and schemes like ACS piss off some fans, there’s always someone else standing in line ready to open their wallet. So whatever anyone thinks of their business practices, it still is a clear sign of how fucking popular and strong we are.
And, by the same token, the fact that shitty is a clear sign of how fucking popular they are NOT, because if they could do it, they would. In a heartbeat.
@willie … yeah, you’re right. Sadly though, they can afford not to break even, can’t they? One day, of course, all their foul chickens will come home to roost. The Russkies or the Arabs will decide they can’t afford it anymore, or have better things to do, or get bored … or, more likely, will simply get tired of the constant failure. Or the financial fair play rules will get them (probably not, though, because I reckon there’ll be enough exceptions and fine print to sail a tanker load of oil through…)
I get you stateside
Maybe City could get a sponsor’s name on the empty seat backs, so it’s legible when they are on TV? That’d be worth at least a couple of hundred quid, given nobody watches the twats on telly either.
pretty sure chelsea lost 69mill last year and city 121mill
Stateside – those people waiting to jump in to get the tickets are the casual fans and day trippers. No wonder the atmosphere is usually so shit. I’d rather watch United away where there’s a few thousand of us than sit in a stadium that’s like a morgue
I do think this shitty talk is just going round in circles, this is old ground and its become boring. No offence scott but you are putting way to many shitty topics on here than I can count. You are just feeding the council house
@Rai … and I’d rather watch United live in a stadium, even if it is like a morgue, than have to watch them only on TV. but such is life…
Jeremy Clarkson on todays Top Gear
So hands up to those who would support all Manchester United players suffering gonorrhoea and never playing again?
In relation to Audi who sponsor United and BMW being a superior car.
Which the audience lapped up quite nicely
Fucking pathetic – but yet again one more point of non reason why we are hated and why we really don’t give a fuck.
Piers Morgan Arsene Wenger talk about quadruples without doing fuck all to warrant the acclaim
We’ll just take it one match at a time
For United
Stateside – we’d all like to watch United live every game, but the prices that are charged don’t reflect the spending power of the average fan. Therefore proper fans end up getting priced out, those seats are taken because of our popularity..:but the soul of the support suffers. It’s wrong.
Guys I’m from Slovakia so I don’t know a situation in Manchester so much….can you tell me some real argument/fact in which base Menchester should be a blue?
my friends tell me that this is a FACT all the time.
isn’t it a DOGMA?
btw sorry for my english
MG – clarkson is awesome, sounded like just funny banter from jeremy. Obvious some PPL will have a dig at united
Scott – how come a post above was just deleted?
This thread got a little lighter.
Anyway, big CL game coming up, predictions anyone? I’m thinking a narrow clean sheet victory. Need out midfield to step up a bit. Unless Scholes is playing I don’t feel confident we’ll create much from CM
Rai … “the prices that are charged don’t reflect the spending power of the average fan. Therefore proper fans end up getting priced out, those seats are taken because of our popularity..:but the soul of the support suffers. It’s wrong.”
It may be wrong, but there isn’t a pricing strategy in the world that will fix that problem. The only way to fix that problem would be to become unpopular lol … or to use one of those shit-covered sticks that matt suggested.
This is NOT a problem just for United. When I lived in Denver a few years back, my two boys desperately wanted to go watch the Avalanche hockey team play. That was when the Avs were in the middle of the longest sell-out streak in NHL history (487 home games straight, lasting 11 years from November 9, 1995 to October 16, 2006). The only way to get tickets was from season ticket holders who sold tickets they didn’t want through the club’s site. To get good seats for the three of us would have cost $900 for the tickets, plus commission, parking and food, so we were looking at well over a grand. So we didn’t go.
That’s just the way it is when you support a team that’s popular and therefore in demand.
Nani can’t create chances?
Willie – I see Nani as a winger not as a centre midfielder….
@kiwwi
Manchester
@ stateside
“What I think is a shame is that people from lower backgrounds can’t afford to go to the stadium anymore,” Cantona told ESPN. “These are the real fans of football. The game is in their blood. Football is not for rich people. Sure, rich people love football, but it is not such a big part of their life like it is for the working class. I think clubs should make a quarter or half of the stadium where the tickets are not expensive, where these people don’t have to make a big sacrifice to go to the game. It’s their children who will grow up to be the great professional players, not the children of rich people.”
Eric said it….who are we to argue
We create the bulk of goals, from the wings. All I want our CM to do on Wednesday, is pass the ball and keep the ball better, than what we have been doing lately.
Willie – I agree possession needs to be better, they need to dicate te game. But if Nani or Giggs are having an off day, we should have midfielder who can either score or create. Of only Pavel Nedved was 215 again he’s the only person who could replace Scholes!! Modric will only come if we pay ridiculous money to Spurs…not sure if that’ll happen..
FITB
I didn’t find it funny mate – I know they have their knack for twisted jokes at times but it wasn’t funny
He was enticing the crowd – he cited his son hating United for the very reason and the crowd duly obliged
It’s not something that I’m making a fuss about – I know how people outside my club perceive the club – but again Clarkson was a total prick.
We move on
Hahahaha previous post sorry for the English lads a few too many at the pub tonight!!!
A 215 year old isn’t what we need!!!
@Rai
that man in CM will be a Henderson, trust me…Carrick is a stopper (good one), Fletch is a passer (average one) and fighter (brilliant one) and Ando is a AM but he hasn’t got consitentent performance
Henderson perfect suit to our midfield
Rai … If you think I was arguing that the pricing and ticketing policies are good and correct, then you didn’t understand a word I said. I was merely trying to explain why it is like it is, and why there’s fuck all anyone can do about it, and why, in a twisted sort of a way, it is actually a sign of how strong our fan-base is, and our weak shitty’s fan-base is.
I read that quote from the king the other day, and he’s got a point. But not even king eric can change the laws of supply and demand. Whattya gonna do? Hang a sign up, “Rich cunts need not apply”?
dzeko must be wondering, whether he choose the right blue, just like robinho used to confuse before…..this is how it feels to be city…poor
It’s almost worth the money to go and have a laugh.
How about Arsenal in the 6th?
City in the semi?
Everton in the Final?
Or who’d want City in the Final?
Would the City fans, all 21k of them, know where Wembley is?
Fuck wasteland. Fuck citeh. Manchester is red
I’m laughing out loud
I roll on the floor
20000 empty seats
You’re losing them all
Suggestion for 2nd verse…
The last time City went to Wembley the motorway was cobbled.
give citeh a break everyone! the high ticket prices were justified by the hot water bottles the bench warmers needed! massive.
Chelsea fans haven’t seen this bad run of form since they were Fulham fans…:)
Evra is officially ours. It’s on our website.
Dont forget though we had a guranteed 55,000 because of the Glazers auto cup scheme! Could we say the same if that wasnt the case? The average season ticket price for that game was £40 anyone tell me you were happy with that you must be mad!
It is a joke that we have to fork out these prices for games like this! But what do the glazers care I am a number on a card not a person!
@Brinsbanered
We cant have that run in you predicted as if City beat Villa then they will face either Everton or reading in the quarters.
CLEARLY THE PROJECT tm IS WORKING BY THE TIME THE BLUE NOSED BERTIES SEE A FULL STADIUM SOME OF THE TIME WHEN IM GOOD AND BURIED …..THERE AGAIN PROBABLY NOT PS 34 YEARS AND THE CLOCK IS TICKING
Manchester United have filled the stadium always even when the worst happened.
Right now lots of supporters have ditched thier tickets in protest of the Glazers. The numbers are in the thousands.
Still on most games its still 70 plus thousand supporters at Old Trafford.
And we have good people at the club that do thier math properly and check it properly before even considering a expansion to the stadium. At some point the debts will be cleared,fences will be mended,fans will return. Manutd also have to improve the ticketing scheme,being Manutd the fans dont take things sitting down,they take on the club to change what they feel is a bad ticketing policy.
So if some city sounding dude who commented on some stats above please check yr facts again .
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city do not have a fanbase that they tell everyone about,some of the brave ones have admitted to it.
city do not have a fanbase that supports the team like we do.Thats why they cant get the numbers in the stadium despite the billion they spent on the team. they are practically giving the tickets away and still cant fill thier stadium.
so will they proceed with the stadium expansion?
Great to see Paddy has signed up. Cheers for the news on Friday Rio.
left back pat with new contract! get in there!
About Ravel Morrison. Some dude commented on one of the articles that cos Ravel is talented thats why we are helping him. Didnt have time that day to kick that idiot,cos thats an insult on the club culture and the club itself.
When we say that Manutd is a family football club ,its cos it is.We dont make things up.
One example, several years ago we had a group off talented youngsters who decided to race each other in thier nice cars. The tragic result of that,the aftermath and the subsequent court hearings and all that followed.
Manutd dealt with what happened the best they cud, they did not abadon the kids.Helped until everything was settled ,it took a long time.
These kids then moved on ,they did not make the cut.
Ronnie Walwork is a troubled customer,Fergie stuck up for him and it helped keep this fellow out of trouble until later in life . Fergie did what he cud and it helped somewhat.
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Another angle that I did not like was when a liverpool youngster was pissed off with his club cos they did not give a chance decided to do a media interview fucking the club up. The media was looking for a poster boy to sell the issue of treatment of players by big clubs ,probaly backed by someone in the FA wanting a soapbox to spout.
Every fucking pundit ,website and channels talked about it and drag Manutd into it.
Now I am not an expert on how other clubs treat thier young ones but I do know something about our club,Manutd.
Example,frazier campbell during an interview explained when asked about his current loan at spurs.
he said warren joyce and at times ole wud speak to him on the phone,visit him in london,he wud also return to carrington for briefings.
So they took care of him,made sure he was progressing,that he was ok at spurs.
Thats Manutd,we are not perfect for sure but we do our best to be doing things the right way.
And good news that Paddy has signed .
Great news on Pat one of world best left backs. A fantastic individual as well.
Back to the city thing I often come over from Ireland to see the Reds and unfortunately my pack of friends have zero to none interest in football. One claims to be a Real Madrid fan but ever since Barcelona have been whooping their ass he has gone very quiet. However, he had the audacity to claim that true Mancunians follow City… despite never setting foot in Manchester. I then launched a tirade using all the facts on RoM to which he replied….ohh I never said they were good fans.
Manchester City claim the future is blue yet you only get minimal success spending millions upon millions.. look at Chelsea. Also you can’t expect a lot of success without spending some money…look at Arsenal.
The way for sustained success is a mixture of both. A few good young cheap/homegrown players… a few big money signings… and a few wise old heads. Plus a great manager.
That’s why we’ve had so much success in the last 20 years and why under SAF we will continue to do just that.
Oh and wtf is with Arsenal… they’ve scraped through the FA cup so far. We should have wrapped up the title if it wasn’t for our away form…. Barcelona should have killed them off in the first leg. Oh and the Carling Cup….who gives a fuck?
Aiyy Ryandunny,give em hell mate!
send the goblins after those miscreants.lol
Me thinks Barca need to get thier key players avalible first and then do what they the last time,unleash a frustrated Messi on arses.
oh fuck me. do le arse think they can win it all? CL, PL, CC and FA cup? so thats what all the “the quadruple is still on” is about? they are struggelin in the fa cup, needs the replay vs leyton, they have to meet barcelona at nou camp, they havent won the CC yet! still needs to win the final. and of course the PL. yes they are our strongest competition but we are in the lead, and the experience we have from being the top of the table will realy help! then the treble “is still on” for us aswell then? why would anyone be going around saying that in february? the season is not over yet….
bring home the 19th boys!
We have completed a potential banana skin battle last saturday with a win.
Now if luck holds marseille dont have most of thier key players avaliable.
If Fergie gets it right we shud win,we know how,lets do this right.
Wigan away can be tricky,the squad is needed for this.
Then chelsea on the 1st ,wud be a good time to take them if all our key players are avaliable
Then the danger grows with the anfeild visit. We need John O’Shea and his irish luck.
City’s lawyers are taking action to remove a spoof account, Simple_as_Mike, that has appeared on Twitter, with the profile ‘Embittered Manchester City legend and enemy of statistics & facts.’
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/20/mike-summerbee-sky-bias-manchester-united
Found some crackers -
# Wifes giving me shit for no Valentines card. Stupid cow. Its not even February. I reckon. Not a Gregorian calendar man. Simple as that #mcfc 11:27 AM Feb 14th via web
# @steveierich At least that. Double that. Don’t try blinding me with facts though. Not a facts man. Simple as that. 11:17 AM Feb 14th via web in reply to steveierich
# Sad to see Ronaldo retire. A true city legend. What? Fuck off. He fucking well did. I’m not a history man. Simple as that. #mcfc #ronaldo 10:52 AM Feb 14th via web
# @ToddyRigg No. Possession is all that matter. As does gelling. Gelling and Possession. Simple as that. #mcfc #bluespastics# 7:09 AM Feb 14th via web in reply to ToddyRigg
# @DTguardian Edin Dzeko is sat at home filling his Panini album. I’m not a passenger list man. Simple as that. #Mcfc 5:40 AM Feb 14th via Mobile Web in reply to DTguardian
# Still buzzing about Dzeko’s overhead winner at the swamp on Saturday. What? No. I’m not a reality man. Simple as that. #Mcfc #mong 5:38 AM Feb 14th via Mobile Web
Fantastic news about Evra.
I don’t think the importance of him and Vidic’s renewed contracts can be overstated.
With the media and rival fans so keen to play up the ‘club in decline’ angle, the fact that two foreign superstars have spurned the sunshine, wages and low tax rate of Spain, where they could both have strolled into Madrid’s starting XI, in favour of seeing out their best years at Utd, is a real boost. Especially since they’ve both already won all there is to win with us.
Foreign future stars looking at the club will find it far more attractive that these big big names have a commitment to our club that goes beyond money and even trophies. It sends out a message that we are a powerhouse, no matter what the Daily Mail would have you believe.
Lest we forget,we face Argie Troll I on wednesday.Gabriel Heinze.
Nice one Paddy. As i predicted, has pledged his loyalty until the end of the 2013/14 season. Now if we could see that pre-World Cup form return that’d be lovely. Thanks. Great news though.
kanchelskis – Spot on mate. Losing Vida and Paddy would not only have damaged us on the field but off it. Like you say the media would have had a field day. “United now a selling club”, “Rats deserting a sinking ship” and all that bollocks. It also shows they know which side their bread is buttered and they have every faith that more trophies are about to follow. I suppose you could put the Rooney contract in this bracket but thats a different thing altogether.
If I was in any position of power in the game than I would ban David Pleat from ever commentating on a football match. Do not really hate the guy but he is a fucking idiot. Cannot pronounce a player’s name to save his own life plus his views are always so stupid that he makes a joke of himself
xol-great find man,the guy who started this is a genius so it cant be bitter mike right
rat1p – Yeh must be reds doing it. Genius quick thinking. I’m not a twitterer, but it looks like the fake Summerbee account appeared after the sky outburst and now the messages are doing the rounds.
Patrice, you star. Enjoy your stay.
Is max here?
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/883543/patrice-evra-signs-new-deal-with-manchester-united?cc=4716
6 months ago there was a chance of all 3 vidic evra and rooney all leaving, now thhey have all signed contracts. and they say we are a selling club when only ronaldo has been the only big player to have been sold
this article will piss all off. if we r crap what does it make the rest
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/simon-mullock/Simon-Mullock-column-Why-steering-this-weak-Manchester-United-team-to-the-title-will-be-Fergie-s-finest-ever-achievement-article700791.html
I was at the game on saturday and there was nowhere near 74,778 there, the whole crowd laughed when the attendance was announced. I have no doubt we doubled city’s attendance but to say we had that many is daft, if we didnt have to buy FA cup tickets with our season tickets the attendance would have been much less, as reflected by all the empty seats in OT.
@ fergie is the boss
yeah what the hell was that guy writing? “no keane, no cantona, no beckham, no ronaldo”
well we got NEMANJA VIDIC, a proper captain, leader, legend (haha) and he has been top class all season. and of course, the berb, top scorer in the prem. “no good players” well thats a shitty accomplishment from a shitty player then? this is why i cant stand newspapers
And guess what? One bloke in City’s shirt is spotted in Leyton v Arsenal’s game, celebrating Leyton’s equalizer.
Latest news surounding Manchester Shitty, United should be investigated for corruption and we are paying off refs….. Just when you thought this lot couldn’t be anymore desperate! Honestly, you couldn’t write it. You know what, they are an embarrasmet to Football, they demand respect yet scrape the desperation barrell just because they suffered yet another defeat to us. I’m not even pissed off by it because I now expect it from them, I actually laughed out loud when I heard it. You got to give it to them – 10/10 for comedy…
on tv the ground looked full don’t know how they can make up a offical attendence,thought it was done by how many pass through the turnstiles or am i wrong about that
Off topic, the media is linking us with a bid for Lloris yet again. Am I alone in feeling that PIG deserves a chance to prove his worth?
manutdisadream – when he said beckham I laughed my ass off when he was no talisman. Keane was just 1 of many great united players during his prime years of his career. He should check united’s home record, yea we beat the so called mighty gunners 5 pts behind united currently
4 pts behind
Xol Really hilarious stuff in that Guardian article.
Says that Sky won’t be inviting Mikey back.
They are running out of “ambassadors” over there. Might have to hire some of our old boys to fill in.
Ha ha ha ha.
Qualilty twit site as well.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/feb/20/mike-summerbee-sky-bias-manchester-united
fitb – Yeah mate saw that article on Sat. How about Nani, Berba, Rooney, Valencia, Park, Vida, Evra, Rafa, Giggs, Scholes, Hernandez, Fletch etc etc. He is clearly a fucking idiot.
wayne – Sometimes they go through ticket sales and not bums on seats. Ie,. Soemone has to buy the ticket due to the ACS but may not actually attend. Having said that the ground looked pretty full to me.
@King Eric thanks mate if i don’t recognize the user name and the comment is negative always think might be trolls pretending to be utd fans,on tv looked liked a few empty seats but not enough for the crowd to start laughing.
you know every so often you read an article so berift of fact or statement, i wonder if the internet is a forum for simpletons and idiots.
For instance Cockney red say “this city is ours” how many mancunian reds will that cause to cringe ? id like to think any pround manc would see the utter comedy in your published thoughts.
Also a forward thinking, supporter friendly club like City seem to take value in offering good value to who ever makes the choice. Now choice is the key word here, how may die hard’s came in an empty red seat costume against Crawley………
Thats correct, the people who where forced to buy a over priced cup ticket. i have been a season ticket holder for many years, but would be utterly offended at the suggestion i had to attend, and pay extra for a game i either couldnt/or want to attend.
with five home games in three weeks, 3 of them cup games, with notts county being the least important of all. Well i dont know the finances of many from London, but manchester is feeling the cuts hard.
if you do attempt a venture into the world of intrepid reporter, starting with a full rounded argument will always get you respect. This argument is paper thin with a massive stench of irony, how many thoushand die hards went missing from the non ACS carling cup fixtures ? because their is an incovinient truth hidden in that statistic.
at the end of the day its simple, your saying wow look at little poor little City. Predictable as ever, but since you must condone the enforced attendance by you wonderfull Glazier family, i shall leave you to sit in you own growing mire………
the comedy is all you xxxxxxxxx millions of fans attending all at once cant drag you out of that.
The Premier League Handbook has THE PREMIER LEAGUE GATE STATEMENT (Rule E.42) which is one of the forms that each club submits after each game. Thereon they record data, including:
- Total No.of tickets issued, which includes
Home – Adults
Home – Junior Concession
Home – Senior Concession
Home – Total Concessions 0
Home – Other
Season tickets
Complimentary – Season tickets
Complimentary – Match day
Away – tickets
- No.of spectators attending (including hospitality)
The figures named as ‘Attendance’ are the total number of people attending, and is a physical count of all spectators present at the game. As these figures are commonly used to determine market and revenue share, they are not clandestinely manipulated by secret club agents trying to put city in a bad light.
If city has the most fans in Manchester, they are invisible, or microscopic.
King Eric – when he questions the age of the squad I will counter it all the time, remember what I said in august, the only ageing players in the united squad are scholes giggs VDS and neville. It aint vintige united but at the moment we are top, and we are a monster at OT. This so called great arsenal side still cannot get past united at present which is supposed to be pants by the hacks, actually I will call them gimps
no they dont, they go off the gate recipts as that it the only true indication. Since comps are witten off as a tax deduction they are still accountable towards the attendace figures.
this rule was brought in to stop the attendance figures being asbused in aid to avoid tax payments, as was rife in the 80s.
you cant sell the same seat twice, so they have to count them as in attendance. They have to do that by law, if not then they would show xxxx ammount of ticket sales that dont match the attendance. that would then mean that those tickets dont show up on the tax record and is recorded as tax evasion.
so the question is, how many full season ticket holders do united have. because their should be your baseline since they are forced to buy. and will always be counted.
Manny – Sadly, you’re missing the point. City fans claim Manchester is blue but even when the tickets are practically being given away, don’t show up to support the team. It’s not about being rich or poor. Are you honestly telling me there’s only 21,000 City supporters in Manchester who could afford to go to all your games? Will you be sold out for the UEFA game because every Mancunian blue has been saving up and chose that over the Cup game? I very much doubt it.
Your argument is entirely flawed because when you consider against Salzburg your tickets were £5 for adults and £1 for children, there were still an incredible 10,000 empty seats. You’re not seriously suggesting City fans can’t afford a fiver for a game of football, are you? Of course these are hard times but anyone can find £5 down the back of the sofa.
You know as well as I do if United were selling tickets for £15 or £5, and only Mancunians were allowed to go, OT would easily sell out. If you live in Manchester, you know the truth. You know as well as I do that there’d be more than 30,000 inside OT if tickets were a fiver and only Mancs could go. Just be honest.
Berties claim to be true mancs, Everton claim to be the peoples club and Birmingham City claim to be true Brummies….seems to be a theme here. Start rumours and spread lies about your more illustrious neighbour to hide the fact you have had little or no success or history. Citeh may have a sugar daddy but will never have the prestige or history. YOU CAN’T POLISH A TURD!!
Priceless!
And Toure said “we’ll be bigger than Barca”, are you havin a larf, are you havin a larf! – cos I am.