Year after year, The Guardian writers predict any team but Manchester United will win the league, which means every year I get to write an article ripping them apart. It was most enjoyable when they believed that Luiz Scolari’s Chelsea would pip us to the title, only for him to get sacked in February when four points behind United despite playing two games more, and United going on to win the league.
2011 Guardian prediction: 1 Chelsea 2 City 3 United 4 Arsenal. Reality: 1 United 2 Chelsea 3 City 4 Arsenal
2010 Guardian prediction: 1 Liverpool 2 Chelsea 3 United 4 Arsenal. Reality: 1 Chelsea 2 United 3 Arsenal 4 Spurs
2009 Guardian prediction: 1 Chelsea 2 United 3 Liverpool 4 Arsenal. Reality: 1 United 2 Liverpool 3 Chelsea 4 Arsenal
2008 Guardian prediction: 1 Chelsea 2 United 3 Liverpool 4 Arsenal. Reality: 1 United 2 Chelsea 3 Arsenal 4 Liverpool
However, it is with great sadness that I report The Guardian writers have this year predicted we will win the title. After winning the title three times in the past four seasons and them having us down as finishing second and third every year, they have finally given up and seen sense. We’re not going away.
The superstitious amongst you may see this a kiss of death but I’d rather see this as recognition of the fact Sir Alex Ferguson has built a stronger team than anyone else. If we sign the world class midfielder that would certainly seal the deal but even without him, if you compare our current squad to everyone else’s, we’re better. We won the title by 9 points last season and have strengthened since then.
Didn’t take them long to clock on eh?
2012 Guardian prediction: 1 United 2 City 3 Chelsea 4 Liverpool
Man Utd News 24/7
Now that’s a first!
Bout time! BAM RED ARMY !
“we’re better” – Yeah, that is putting it mildly.
If anyone from the opposition had been watching Scholesy’s testimonial yesterday, they would’ve been cowering in their houses not wanting to come out. We saw almost three generations of United play yesterday in a single match, and each one ripped into a New York Cosmos side. I mean, Pogba maybe still has at least two years before he can become a first team regular and he looked like a beast of a footballer yesterday. Not to mention the people ahead of him like Cleverley, Welbeck, Macheda, Diouf and Anderson looked like the bomb. And ahead of them you’ve got Carrick, Fletcher and Giggs.
No other club in world football can boast of such a squad. It is a testament to Sir Alex’s superior managerial skills and planning that the assembly line at Old Trafford keeps on producing youngsters like that.
If we get a certain Dutch footballer, then the writing is on the wall surely for the other Premier League clubs. In fact, I would say the writing is on the wall as it is. I cannot see anybody challenging us for the title unless we dig our own grave.
BTW, Daniel’s preview was so full of shit in The Guardian. He did not even mention Anderson once in that article. Ando is expected to step up this season and he is not mentioned in our team preview. That is truly sickening in my opinion.
Very true. Here’s to 20!
Yeah that’s a first Costas. Lol. Very subtle.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2023103/Manchester-City-sign-Wesley-Sneijder-report.html
Sneijder to Man City is the latest rumor …
On topic, seen The Light at last, have they? Though I think they will get the rest of it wrong. I doubt City will come second and Liverpool fourth…
Milaneli pipped me to it. Oh well…
Though I had read earlier that City didn’t even think of bidding because Sneijder wanted to play for United because of our history and to win more trophies.
Watching our open training. Fletcherinho is playing. So happy for him. really need him at his best again. our midfield “problem” would not be as apparent if he was constantly fit and playing like in 09.
@RedManWalking, So far, nothing official to back it up. So it seems all rumors to me so far. I would be very surprised if it actually ends up happening. Sneijder is already one of the best-paid players in football with Inter. He has no financial reason to leave them for now. If he came to us, it will be footballing reasons which is completely understandable. But I simply cannot see him giving up the comforts of Milan to join a club like City.
It’s interesting to see Arsenal is left out of the top four. It seems competition for top 4 places is fiercer than ever. With Sir Alex being the exception, I can see any manager from the top teams being sacked around Xmas if they are too far behind a CL spot. What a season it’ll be!!! Now sign that exceptional midfielder and let’s go!
Sneijder to Man City ? Hope it’s true.
@Dr. Mico
It was a first in more ways than one.
After watching Scholesy’s testimonial, I have a feeling Anderson could step up this season and I hope he does. Can’t wait for tomorrow – City is going to get an ‘ass whooping of a life time!’
All this sneijder bullshit is really pissing me off. If Wes wants to join city then FLIPPING join city and make these idiotic papers stop with the useless rumours and idiotic stories.
It’s the Gazello dello sport that started the rumors about Sneijder and City. They are talking about a fee of 36 million euros. Don’t know how true it is, but if Inter want Tevez, that’s their best avenue right there…
@RedManWalking
True that. Looks like Ando is slowly getting back to his 07-08 self. Only this time, he’s actually scoring goals.
If he, Fletcher and Cleverley play as well as we know they can, our midfield is set imo.
@Balaji
The rumors around were that Inter Milan would use the money from the Sneijder sale (to us) to buy Tevez. But, now the talk is that City are offering player (Tevez) + cash deal for Sneijder.
Also the main stumbling block in the Sneijder deal was his wage demands. And everyone knows that Man City are ready to pay 200k per week to an earthworm if they felt like it. I hope that the rumors are false though because I would really like to see one of my fav players playing for my fav club. But, if he doesn’t join he, like Torres, can watch us succeed while he is stuck in a mediocre club and sit and regret of the day he decided not to join Manchester United.
Sir Alex after the open training: “Let’s hope we keep the neighbours crying tomorrow.”
LMAO Fergie has a go at the berties. the crying neighbours now LOLLLLLL. The shield is ours tomorrow. COME ON UNITED!!!!
@Costas
The other day, I was watching some videos of Ando before he joined United. And he looked a different beast in those videos. I kept wondering “WTF! Where the hell is this guy gone!”. I saw that Ando again last night. Huge hopes for him this season. His goal yesterday was absolute class!
@RMW, Yeah, my logic is that he doesn’t want to lower his wage to join us, which is understandable because none of us would want to go to make a career switch if we are going to earn less. However, by that same logic, he is earning a shitload of cash at Inter, no reason to join another club for financial reasons is my logic here. As I said a long time ago, Sneijder doesn’t leave Inter if it isn’t to join Old Trafford. I still stand by that logic unless he signs the dotted line at that shithole.
The Lord speaketh and its class, as usual
@Balaji
That makes sense!, mate This might be some stupid rumor started by Inter to get us to up our bid. I guess they don’t know Fergie. I am sure we aren’t going to bid a penny more especially after Ando’s and Cleverley’s performances of late. Getting Sneijder would be great but he isn’t a requirement, he is a bonus.
@RMW, “Getting Sneijder would be great but he isn’t a requirement, he is a bonus.” – Nice one. For a while, I thought it was the former, but the pre-season has proved otherwise. I still want him for my personal fanboyish nature, but it it doesn’t happen, I don’t think it changes our prospects for the new season a bit.
you-know-who has been sold to city after turning down united
Well, he’s shit anyway isn’t he?
He’s got shit for brains at least.
@Balaji
Exactly mate! Before pre-season, I too wanted a creative midfielder especially after Scholesy had declared his retirement. But, seeing Cleverley and Ando, I feel they will be able to fulfill that role easily. I have a gut feeling that in the end, Sneijder will come to United.
@RedManWalking
Yeah it was a time when Ando was considered a player in the Ronaldinho mould. Ever since he’s had his ups and downs and amazingly, this was his first pre season for us. If he stays consistent and simplifies things (like his goal last night), this will be a huge season for him.
heard Obertan has agreed 5 year deal with NCU?
city to sign Sneidjer?
hope city sign him and hope obertan stays
The City camp are denying any kind of deal. Maybe they are waiting until the super cup is over.
I love the smell of football in August.
Sir Alex sounded very happy with the squad he has at his disposal in his interview with Stewart. That is good enough for me. If The Lord is happy, I have no reason to complain.
Thoght the younger players did really REALLY well against the opposition last night… but they were hardly a real test. The centre of our midfield has been a weakness for the last 2-3 yrs, even with the Scholesly legend still there. HArgreaves would of been the answer but for injury robbing us. Carrick and Fletcher are good but not great. Feel Fergies trying to massage the midfield through to when Tunnicliffe, Pogba and CLeverly are ready to take over. I aggree it could be Andersons year, seems to be playing with more freedom. BUT……. if Citeh really do get Sneijder, to add to SIlva, Toure and DEJong & A… thats a midfield that can DOminate for the next 4-5 yrs. If ypu can’t win the midfield battle yoiu don’t win matches…. BArcalona proved it to us, as did Chelsea at stamford bridge and Liverpool and even WOlves. Fletcher last season was dominated by players like MOdric and Adams and Carrick is not that dominant so WE NEED a midfielder that will maintain that midfield control, wether its Modric, Sweitchensteiger, Sneijder, De Rossi, M’Villa, Defour or even Ganso…. this season may be a season too farfor some of our more good players unless Anderson and cleverly really do step up big time…………….
Aah – I bet Cedars is doing the Hula
@Costas
In Brazil, every Tom, Dick and Harry is called the next Ronaldinho/Ronaldo/Pele, etc. Ronaldinho himself was ‘the Next Ronaldo’. I think after this season, the upcoming talents in Brazil will be called ‘the Next Anderson’
Last summer, Inter insisted we were after Sneidjer,that we made an offer.
When Ferguson confirmed we had not, it was u said ;i said thing goin on.
Who wud u beleive? Even if we know that Fergie does mind games,he dosent lie.
My opinion we enquired about the dutchman ,that it.
We made an offer for David Villa, he turned us dowm for Barca.
This summer ,Inter are saying we have not made contact ,no offer. Fergie is not saying anything except its difficult at the moment to get the quality player we want,so we probaly have closed shop on transfers this summer.
David Gill comes out and says , still time for one more but confirms what Fergie said,difficult to sign the world class quality we want at the moment.
We all know that with current leadership that we have had for years , we run a disciplined ship , no simple comments to the press about major issues unless approved. Like Rene saying we like Stekellenburg and Phelan saying we like De Gea . U knew immediately these guys wud not be saying such things without some understanding from Fergie.
In all of this, the only sure things is this:
The season of decision making has come to a close. Decisions have been made on all careers. He has decided to place his trust on the youngsters for the new season.He educated and challenged them and they answered him loud and clear. So this season instead of them being on the bench ,they will play.
What we know is that these youngsters have been put in pressure cooker situations and proved themselves so we feel confident about them. Not so the outside world.
So this season Vidic,Rio,Evra are now the only seniors in defence. Evans,Rafael,Fabio,Chris,Phil in the order of seniority are the youngsters we are going to rely on defensively.
So do we need a world class midfeilder ? Yes ,by the looks of it Gill/Fergie have confirmed it.
The use of the words ‘world class’ denote someone like sneidjer,modric and nasri.
Not gotze or some young one ,as good as they may be now.
While everyone is saying sneidjer and maybe both clubs are negotiating thru the media with thier comments, I wud not be surprised we signed Nasri. Why?
Cos there seems to be some contact,Fergie even knows the players possible plans. One year left on his contract even if cesc leaves, the possibility to cash in now is still there.
Simply put , less obstacles .
Modric leaves spurs, wud leave both Levy/Redknapp in shit. They caved and can never be trusted.
So they need to hold and see it thru till next year.
But lets say they cave, we cud put an offer on the table,Spurs will accept to spite chelski. Modric cud accept the role of replacing our Legend Scholes.
Simply put, let chelski clear the path,then see what happens.
Sneidjer ,simply put, is down to crazy money beng asked by both club /player. Resolve that .
The only way inter will cave is brinkmanship, we can hold, they cant.
Another manager ,not doing so well it seems,lose to ac milan in beijing, it puts more pressure on the club.
Players are restless,that means they need to do some housekeeping and do it quickly.
And we seem to be doing well in midfeild, cud do better no doubt but the pressure is not on us, its on them.
Like to add, the pressure is also on some of the fans, fans some of u mentioned calling in and instead of speaking of Scholes and the testimonial , were talking of sneidjer.
Thankfully our leadership can handle that kid of expectation and pressure from fans like that.
Very disappointed …after all the talk throughout the Summer that Sneijder is going to goin Man Utd ,it appears now he’s off to SHitty ….what the fuck is that ..is he another mercenery ? please God spare us from that please .
According to Sky News, Manchester City have done the predictable, small mentality move and tabled a bid for Sneijder…
patchetic and predictable!
Sneijder to shitee…..please no FFS !!!
It was a fun ride, us getting written off, hope to hell it means we do not win the league
Just heard Sneijder is on his way to City!!!
we shouldn’t worry about sneijder wanting to moving else where, united should try build a midfield with player’s already at the club and young players. the likes of anderson,cleverly, pogba can all build telepathic relationships on the pitch and potentially make huge impact, guided with the experience of carrick, fletcher, park, giggs e.t.c!
They’ve just denied that they put in a bid.They’ve just denied that they put in a bid.
@dannysoya: u watched the open training, Fletch has put on more muscle or is he still a waif?
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11679_7084021,00.html?
Sneijder not off to city.
Be back after some time..
This makes for an interesting read: Testimonials – An Endangered Species
Look at the players we have ready for a testimonial in comparison to the other teams. One more reason to be proud, I guess.
Hey guys, just a quick question…..Most people here gave been craving for Wes or Modric…..
But whom I am really we get is Gotze from the Bundes Liga…I think he’s quality, and still very young..
What do you guys think?
But, even if we don’t get anyone, I won’t mind, because that’d mean that SAF is happy with our current squad, so in turn that makes me happy…
What the hell is going on?!
If Sneijder gets injured against AC milan, he’ll be going nowhere. I think he might stay at Inter anyway. Unless Fergie springs a surprise, I think that’s us finished. As for the Guardian, I like proving the papers wrong. No, they’re tipping us to win the league, I’m slightly worried!
Hi RedManWalking, good point about Anderson. There’s a Brazilian guy who I play football with (well I did till recent health problems) who’s a contemporary of Ando’s and he says similar things. He’s known him well since he was 13 and he was always considered a goal-scoring, attacking player, someone who played just behind the striker and he used to get bucket-loads of goals. Everyone back home has been very puzzled why he doesn’t score more here, with some blaming Fergie for not playing him in his best position, some even saying only Brazilians know how to nurture Brazilian talents. It’s interesting to see Ando is now scoring more frequently, even if not in huge numbers yet in competitive matches. It’s possibly make -or-break time for him this season.
*Now*
1 Manchester United.
2 Arsenal
3/4 Chelsea / city
The fact that the ABU press consider us likely winners should tell you that we are streets ahead of everyone else. Which we are.
We won last season’s title by 9 points, truly remarkable.
This season, we will again win by a big margin.
Why are people fucking panicking over Sneijder’s sale to City? OMG. i don’t which one angers me more. United “fans” in panic mode over wes moving to city or Newspapers behaving like they know ANYTHING about our transfer dealings. SMH.
@smartalex: Unjani?
@dannysoya: yo dude, my question, u watched the open training, has Fletch bulked up?
@Balaji : Hows Nigella?
@Dave Malaysia: Very well, my friend, thank you! How are you today? Enjoying United?
Hey dave. I cannot tell if he has bulked up cuz he was decked in one of them baggy jackets. but he looked fit was running all over the place and scored a penalty. So yeah he’s looking good.
@smartalex: fine bro but the weather is hot ,really hot. Do wish I cud have watched the testimonial.
@dannysoya: thks. The key with Fletcher bossing that midfeild is he needs to bulk up . Last time they did it with him,his performances rose,wasnt being pushed off the ball so often.
@Giles Oakley: How ru doing ,our very own legend? Still waiting for yr book dude.
Right, sorted. Didnt know what the hell was going on then? Non of my posts were appearing and it kept throwing me out to the home page. Anyone else ever experienced this? Anyway, back up and running.
Afternoon Smartalex, how ya doing? Enjoy the game? What’s the exciting news of the day? Heard some bull shit earlier about city and Sneijder! The football press is truly more laughable than City (maybe not). Inter have probably seen our midfield pre season and thought, shit, they don’t need Sneijder let’s off load him to that shit for brain club that would sign a tea lady for £30m!
Very pleased to see Fletcher back to fitness… he scored a couple in the open training today and seems to bulked up. I hope he can be a mainstay this season.
@DM, She’s doing great, I suppose. I am getting over her since the season begins tomorrow. It was fun while it lasted the course of the summer.
@Balaji: I know u blame me and some of the pervs in here for muddling yr thots with boobs and all that, well try this Anita Blond
http://sexy.figoo.it/porno-attrici/foto-sexy-di-anita-blond.php
Be happy dude.
Are we willing to give anderson the chance and not buy that world class midfielder? The alternative if anderson and cleverly fail is city winning the league and we can’t allow that to happen. Snijeder is a proven world class midfielder anderson and cleverly are not (as yet) up to that standard and we all know its the 1 area of the field we have a problem. So if we don’t sign him I hope the people on here who are against snijeder or another big money buy arnt the ones crying when those bitter blue cunts are winning the league and getting to the champions league final next may which is a possibility with the players they got, they could even win another trophy tomorrow and if u ask fergie he will tell u winning trophy’s becomes a habit. So let’s keep the money in the bank and roll the dice! because we have been let down so many times in big games away from home in particular by our midfield over the last two seasons not buying in that area is a gamble. Red army
I’m like Ivan Drago.
If he signs, he signs.
Good afternoon Mikekelly12! I’m doing well, thanks. Loved the Scholes testimonial!
The Great Man was honoured by such luminaries as Eric Cantona and Pele, Paul scored a cracker, everyone played well, and we scored 6 without conceding. Best of all, our new players, and young upstarts proved to be unfazed and competent. It was great to see Pogba not skipping a beat, Danny was nothing short of brilliant, and my main concern was comfortably addressed, viz goalkeeping.
de Gea was confident, comfortable and calming. Yay!
Good news for the day is that Orlando Pirates Under-15s are the first African team to make it to final of the Manchester United Premier Cup, and take on Pachuca of Mexico today at 1pm.
Come on Africa, show them how we doing!
@Gandalf: He bulked,thats good to know. Say do u have long white hair and can make things happen just by yr thots?
@willirednut : Still think ur a red wilie chilli,with nuts.
@DM, Screw you. No more boobs, football is back.
@willie, Pretty much. The noise is dying down now that the season is about to begin. But, yeah, we will give one final try before the window closes like we did with Berbatov. If it works out like Berba (without being held for ransom obviously), then great. But if it doesn’t, no big deal.
Mikekelly12, please excuse my haste! How are you sir?
@Mikekelly12: How ru dude? dont get angry but I have a friend in IT,that sends me stuff,u know stuff he finds in his line of work as he says, but i think he does go looking for it, he is wierd like most IT guys.
Why am i telling u this, cos I see yr name and it reminds me of Mikelly Miranda. I saw the pic and was saying ‘pretty’ till i saw the package.
This is one cos me some thots on sexuality,but am not going there,lets just say it was a confusing moment.
Since i deleted it ,just googled images and this is who im talking about.
http://www.youjizz.com/videos/shemale-mickelly-miranda–201549.html
My apologies to all concerned, the link i put in the above message was a picture not a video.
sorry,damm got to be careful with these links copying.
Various quotes from Sir Alex are a great big kick in the gonads for the anti-Berbatov Brigade.
- “I couldn’t understand what she was asking,”
- “It’s nonsense. There’s absolutely no interest or encouragement from us either.”
- “I thought she was asking about our chances for the season.”
- “All speculations are complete nonsense, we would not have any benefit from that transfer”
So, all those who don’t care for Berbatov will be disappointed. Sorry for you.
Those who jumped with relish to obviously false conclusions can go fuck themselves.
Ungrateful cunts.
Had a busy morning,I do part time work on the Samaritans phone line been inundated with Sneijder fans only advice I could give.Jump.
Balaji – Same here mate. The city thing seems idle paper talk as usual. Gonna watch the Milan derby, see how he gets on lol.
hahaha the wee wes clique won’t like this.
nopt sure how i feel tbh. i do know i don’t want a quality player with a good head on him joining those crying mugs, but shit happensi guess.
i guess what i’m disappointed in is all the noise that was made and there was no back up plan, except if his back up plan was to bed the youngsters in. if that was the case i’d like to have seen our youth gems given a proper run out with some of the first team during friendlies and preseason. More than anything i’m just glad the season is here
the quality of media reports on United is getting lower and lower these days its pathetic and disgusting. and i’m surprised by the dare i say arrogant attitude of some on here talking like we’ll win the league on a canter.
Its not going to be easy winning it and this time we haven’t got the old heads to add that magic touch to bail us out. Rooney is a senior player now as is Nani and Ando, Fletcher and Carrick. A lot of responsibility without the likes of Scholes, G.Nev and even sir Ryan. SAF will want to make sure these boys can take care of themselves.
Preseason games are just that, but i’ve noticed an improvement in the middle of the park but we still always look to the left and the right to get us out and moving even when it may not be safe to do so. Playing full tilt and speeding up like cars in the daytona is not possible every game, hell we’ll probably just get away with it for half the games of the season, the other half will require speed alright. But speed of thought,speed of pass,graft and wit. Thats the part i’m worried about and is the only reason i thought we might go splash the cash this season. Not because Paul Scholes retired. Any one could see that the vast majority calling for a transfer this window could see they were looking for a sentimental buy. and that’s why there were a lot of people calling MUTV talking about this player and that player. Either way i feel this season we’ll see whether these guys have got the true quality needed. Tom, Ando,Gibbo if he stays. Carrick has got a huge season because he’s the experienced head in there. IF SAF want to give em a chance i want to see what they’re made of
I think SAF should send that twat mankini a list of all his transfer targets, It’ll save him waiting till Utd show interest. The man is a prize dick and doesn’t even have any say in transfers its the Sheik who tells him who to buy.
I can’t understand whats going on at shitty. They have to balance the books or its no Europe next season and a possible points deduction. You can spray shit with Gold but at the end of the day its still shit.
The Guardian must have got fed up of Scotts smug articles when Utd romp the Title. I wonder if they Reeaaaly hate him. Come on Reds bring in number 20.
Firstly, the Sneijder to City rumour is total bolocks, one twat trying to be a funny cunt. United medical on monday (I’ve made that up but it will happen).
Secondly, the papers had to go for United. Look at the quality of our squad. De Gea will be class. The defence is easily the best in Europe, I’m now convinced that there is no better full-back than Rafael. The midfield is unreal, so many options. With or without the addition of a world class playmaker we are so strong in every position. We boast the best selection of wingers, no one can debate that. Up front with Rooney, Hernandez, Berba, Owen, Welbeck and Macheda. No Diouf because I think he’ll be sold.
i’m so sick and tired of the sneider saga in the press. and if it’s true he’s going to shitty, well then it says a lot about him – a money grabbing whore for whom it is more important to have a big paycheck than to play in a club with history and the ability to always fight for honours. we don’t need players like that. but i guess this story isn’t finished yet….
Dave – Lol.
@Smartalex
Seen the bosses quotes on Berbatov. As we all suspected, he didn’t understand the question from the French reporter. Makes sense anyway, to keep the Berb. Hernandez is out for a while and we could do with his experience in all honesty.
Gandalf @ 12:29: “Very pleased to see Fletcher back to fitness… he scored a couple in the open training today and seems to bulked up. I hope he can be a mainstay this season.”
If he’s fully-fit then he’ll be the third name on the team sheet – after Vidic and TheWayneBoy.
A fully-fit DarrenFletcherinho (in his “football genius” mode) is exactly what this squad needs – it would be waaaaay better than a new signing !
Speaking of Berbatov, I really wonder what Fergie has in mind for tomorrow. He could always go with experience and start Giggs and Berba. Or he could give Cleverley and Welbeck a run out and check out how far they’ve really come. Danny (and Diouf for that matter) looked great last night, but that was a low hurdle to be honest.
Smartalex – cheers for the update. Not seen the game yet. Gutted I missed the testimonial for one of my all time favourite United legends, but had to attend a leaving party for best friends parents who are moving to Cyprus! Other than that I am fine and dandy young man thanks for asking.
Dave – what the hell was that link? Didn’t see anyone on there of the name you referred to. However, please be assured I have never wandered into the porn industry, transgender or otherwise.
WS to city is bollocks also Berba leaving is bollockd,this morning new rumor utd are close to signing Barton ahead of the dippers and gunners
If he goes to city it proves one thing we cant compete in the transfer market . Gill can say what he likes its the truth because of the cancerous owners we have.we have to sell to buy the £130 mill is a lie they mean £1.30
Costas @ 13:10: “Speaking of Berbatov, I really wonder what Fergie has in mind for tomorrow.”
Me, too.
If Dimmy doesn’t get a run-out against ManShitty then one has to suspect that SAF was either economical-with-the-truth in relation to the PSG “quote” or else just playing-his-cards-close-to-his-chest.
Don’t forget, Dimmy didn’t get into the match against Barcelona. Smoke/fire ????
In response to those who are primed to attack me – again – I want Dimmy to succeed at OT but I’m SCEPTICAL, not a true believer.
@Mikekelly12: Thank God u have a sense of humor,im sure Mikelly Miranda wud appreciate it.
I made a mistake copying the link of the pic, turned out to be a video.Sorry.
Good to see people agreeing on the importance of a fit and bulked up Fletcher will have for our midfield this season.
And some of u have said about the older senior heads, well he is one of them now.
Wee Wes lol. Pick it out!!
we know denton..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz what??????? did i miss something, dozed off.
@pritch the wage structure was in place long before the glaziers took over but you’re right utd can’t compete with city in the transfer market no one can.The only way city get anyone is over paying,i’d like to se WS at utd but not at any cost.City are a bunch of fucking losers and any player picking city over utd can fuck off,just a whore and not good enough to put on the shirt/
HOLY CRAP wes sneijder just scored an absolute PEACH of a free kick. DAMN. the boy is good.
Sneijder scored for inter… pin point accuracy with the free kick… hmmmm
Fucking hell you’re dim
He isn’t going to City
@willierednut
It was patently obvious that Sir Alex was answering a different question to that being asked.
I cannot imagine the Gaffer laughing gleefully with hand-wringing anticipation at the thought
of selling off a prime asset for a few shekels more than his market value.
Berbatov is a key part of our push to the title this season, and next.
Further, his value to the youngsters in the squad is enormous. Between Micky and Dimi we have all the technique and experience to polish up the raw talent and physical prowess of Rooney, and especially of Hernandez and Welbeck. I expect that Macheda and Diouf will go out on loan.
I don’t think it will be a stroll, but we have to be favourites to RETAIN the title. I think Arsenal and Chelsea and City will be our biggest rivals, in that order. We might even see Mancini get the sack this season, unless he scraps together a League Cup victory by beating our B Team. Might sound daft but I’d like to see us win the FA Cup domestic double this year, its been a long time, and we’ve got enough players kicking around to really challenge for all 3 domestic honours. Thats one reason I don’t mind having a big squad, because opportunities for games will come if we have good cup runs. Still hoping that Daily Mail story about Obertan is bollocks. He’s looked good for the Reserves, and he can play either wing or behind the striker. A loan deal in the League would be brilliant, but I’d be gutted if it was permanent, Newcastle would be getting a fucking bargain.
Also, to put it politely, that piece by Daniel Taylor was utter Tosh. According to him, Carrick has no influence and has never had any influence (yawn), Young will be on the bench behind Nani (even though Alex has said Young will start on the left), Fletcher is not the man for the middle (Lmao), etc etc, and as has been mentioned already there isn’t any mention of Anderson even though he’s scored more goals than any other United midfielder since the end of last season. Maybe because that would contradict Taylor’s argument that we ain’t stronger? What a twat. We’ve got Cleverly back as a new addition, and Young’s industry on the Left means Nani and Valencia get loads more space on the right, so we’re already much stronger going forward, and thats not including Anderson and Fletcher, who we didn’t rely on for much of last season. We’ve also got a million strikers to choose from, some of whom will be played wide, and our defence looks like the best in Europe bar none. Oh yeah, two of the best keepers in Europe have signed for us to make up for losing VDS. You’ve gotta laugh at these Journo’s.
The only sad thing about the whole Sneijder saga is that we’ve focused our efforts entirely on him whereas we could have gone for a cheaper option and bought a DM or another full back.
@denton
The thing about that Barcelona friendly is that Rio and Park didn’t play at all either. So it could have been just Sir Alex rotating the side. That being said I am starting to think that it makes more sense to go with Welbeck tomorrow. It’s the perfect test for him.
and yes he’s scored a free-kick. he always scores free-kicks
side note… that lad goetze looks like the real deal… absolutely brilliant the other day against hamburg
Just thought, maybe we’re selling Obertan to sign Barton?
Im hoping its all bollocks to sell papers to be honest, we’ll soon find out.
Obertan had no future here
Barton would be a free
@WHAT ???
Only if it’s Mischa Barton.
I hope the Obertan deal is a loan move. It would be a shame to sell him if he starts coming into his own.
Wes,that was a fuckin goal….
More of that at old trafford.
Balaji @10:31 — good one, mate! Love the imagery of other fans cowering in their houses not wanting to come out. Hahahaha! I can see it now — widows peeking out from behind blackened curtains, grown men averting their eyes, women weeping and wringing their hands as terrified toddlers clutch their legs … because their team is playing United that day!
Hey Costas, how are you buddy?
I think that the fans may have ‘focused our efforts entirely on ‘ Sneijder, but I’m clear that United have kept all considerations balanced and in perspective. I’ve been saying all along that I still expect 2 signings, my thought being 1 for the midfield (Sneijder) and one full-back. It seems that Sir Alex has been looking at Jones and Smalling as possibilities on the right, but I do agree that they should probably focus on one position.
Of course, pre-season has indicated that we do not need any further additions to the squad, but I believe that Sir Alex will not ignore recent lessons where injuries to our defenders cost us dear.
In Sir Alex I absolutely, unequivocally trust.
Get those tight jeans off Costas! Lol.
@Stateside thats what it was like in the old days when the red army hit town.
@The Fly- I disagree, but we’ll soon find out if its true, or if its a loan / buy back clause etc
@ Wayne – just having a laugh mate, if we needed Barton I don’t doubt the manager would sign him up regardless of the “outcry”, but truth is we don’t need him to sit on our bench behind Fletcher and the Gang.
Re: Sneijder, its good to see some of the lads on here coming round to the realisation we don’t NEED to sign the dutchman. Even if Pre-season didn’t go as smoothly as it has I’d be saying the same thing, but I guess signs and wonders for the non-believers doesn’t hurt eh?
A few others and my self have been saying it for months, we’d be SPOILT if we managed to sign Sneijder because we’ve already got a midfield selection our rivals would love to have. More to the point, if the dutchman isn’t prepared to negotiate his way to Manchester, then in the nicest way possible, fuck him. He could make it happen if he really really wanted to come to United, and nobody should fool themselves about that. From what I understand, he’d get more sponsorship money in England than he currently gets in Italy, so if he signed for less wages he could still earn the same amount or even more. Bottom line, between NIKE, Gill and Sneijder’s signature this could all be wrapped up by now, the fact its not tells me all I need to know about the player. Yes he’d be a great signing if he took less wages, but we don’t need him for the money he’s holding out for.
@Giles – cheers for the insight on Ando!
WHAT ???
My predictions expressed at 12:12 exactly match yours stated at 13:28.
Great minds, and ours, thinking clearly!
There must be something in the Obertan story. He wasn’t at the open training session today apparently.
We’ll find out from the boss tomorrow, I’d guess.
Still catching up on the news … is Obertan off, then? Hope not — this preseason I thought he finally looked like a United player. Shame for him to go just when he looks like producing the goods.
As smartalex said, the interpretation of the Ferguson/Dimmy questions was always bollocks. The idea of us selling The Berb is not preposterous — but the idea of Ferguson announcing this in an impromptu interview on French TV while laughing his tits off and dancing a little jig of joy, certainly is preposterous. Well, I embellish his body language a little, but he certainly looked pretty bloody happy. I can’t remember him ever looking *that* happy at the prospect of selling any player.
Haven’t seen the testimonial yet but it’s recorded.
WHAT ???
I’m not so sure that Sneijder is holding out for more money.
I think that the deal may have already been agreed, but Inter’s contractual obligations with the Chinese have ensured that no deal is signed before the end of their tour.
That works for me, anyway!
Any mid-or-low-table team would relish having Obertan, based on his performances in the reserves and in our First team. A loan deal would be great for us and him, otherwise I expect that we’d insist on at least 6 million Euros.
smartalex is spot on. fee agreed, contract offer with the player. not holding out for money because with his image rights coming here he’d be getting a lot more money. and if his wife got an acting or presenting job in england, she’d also be getting a lot more money. just watch his latest interview after the dublin cup, says all you need to know.
What??? It’s true some have argued that we *need* Sneijder. I never thought (or said) that we *need* him. But I do think he would improve our squad. We’ll be fine without him, but better with him, that’s all. And if he comes now, he could get 4-6 really good years out of him. If it doesn’t happen this year, I don’t think it ever will.
@Costas – easy mate, I had to google who she was, so she likes the wacky backy then?
@Balaji – a relative is on the verge of moving to the other side of take globe to follow his dream career. He’s selling his house and everything, and even tho the salary is obviously decent he could def get something similar and a bit close to home. But thats the sort of passion you show when you really want something. The company he’ll be working for is his dream, so I think he’d move to Papa New Guinea if thats where the HQ were. It would’ve been nice to see the same passion from Sneijder to come to United, but we clearly ain’t his dream Club so he’s happy with his wages in Milan. The fact that he’d ditch Italy if we paid a little bit more speaks volumes though. I wouldn’t call him a mercenary, but he clearly doesn’t consider United as highly as (for example) Berbatov or Young, who both could’ve earned a bigger salary elsewhere. Luckily, the Kids have been playing with real passion over the summer and they know they can become the next Scholes, Neville, Beckham etc. So I’d rather trust their ability and passion, instead of signing a player holding out for more money. I hope the “Wes Clique” won’t be too upset if we kick off the League Season without the dutchman!
@smartalex
Hi mate. I am good, thanks. How are you? Yeah I have to agree there. The Sneijder fixation is more about the fans than the club it seems. The impression I’ve got, is that we are done with our spending for this summer, unless something happens on that front. A defender hasn’t been on the agenda at any point unless something is going on in a very secretive manner. At the moment I can’t say for sure how deep the current squad is. It will depend on how some of the young lads perform and what happens on the injury front.
@willie
I am wearing loose shorts today.
Can’t you see I am takig it easy on Joey? 
@Stateside, I blame the super-hot French chick for that. Turns out even someone as great as Sir Alex is not above that.
I have to agree with you on Obertan. Personally, I don’t think any youth level player should be off before he is given a chance to shine in the first team. Gibson is the prime example. He has been given lots of chances even though he hasn’t always lived up to expectations. I would still love to give Gibbo one last chance, but with Cleverley and Welbeck stepping up, that looks unlikely. Obertan hasn’t had too many playing opportunities at all. In previous seasons, he always looked unfit to be able to play at the highest level. But this pre-season, he has looked up to the mark. He clearly has bulked up a lot and is taking a more direct approach with his runs into the box rather than not knowing what to do with the ball like before. He has too many players competing ahead of him as well. But it would be a shame if he was sold without getting a chance to prove that he was good enough for us.
@WHAT ??? probably right mate rumors have been strong though
@Costas – I’m very well, thank you!
@Balaji – Have you managed to get a name for the ‘super-hot French chick’?
@What??, That is a completely fair assessment mate. I know I will gladly accept “slightly” lower wages if Google came knocking at my door for example (Big Dream I guess!). I only gave that reasoning because I was sick of people calling Sneijder a mercenary. I don’t he can be clubbed into the same league as Toure, Balotelli and the lot. Also, I don’t think he wants to earn more with us, more likely he wants us to match his wages with Inter, but that is difficult for us to do with the higher tax rates in Britain. Plus, I would love if every player were like Berbatov and Young who came here – like fans – for the romance of playing for us. But I don’t think it is fair to expect that level of sentimentality from a Dutch national who has moved from Ajax to Real Madrid to Inter Milan. In general, I don’t think we can’t expect that in modern football either – there are very few players like Berbatov left, I am afraid.
@smartalex, Unfortunately, no. If one you can provide me with that, I would be very happy indeed.
@WHAT ???
Yep, I believe she’s a big fan.
Sorry but Ashley Young is here for the 100k a week. No doubt about that.
@The Fly, But he “chose” us, so to speak, like Berbatov. Berba knew even a cup of tea with Hughes would’ve forced our hand to offer higher wages for him, but he did not do that. Young did not want to as much look Liverpool’s way the moment he knew Sir Alex wanted him.
I heard that too. Young is on at least 100k a week. Some reports said, 130k a week. I think the first one would be the correct figure.
@ Smartalex – clearly indeed Pal! something tells me Arsenal will be up for it this season, although I think they are yet to find a buyer for the world class Bendtner, the pink shoed goal machine
With Sneijder, that is always a possibility, so nobody can rule out a move until the window closes. Its a balancing act mate, if everybody was writing the deal off I’d probably be more optimistic that its all a machiavellian rouse and we’re just waiting for him to complete his contractual obligations. Problem is, the Wes Clique has placed too many eggs in the “we need to sign him or the world will end” basket, so I feel compelled to prepare for the false dawn! The Kids are alright mate, I think we’ll be just fine.
@Stateside – alright mate? We would def be better with him, no doubt, its just a question of at what price?. Breaking our wage structure will effect us long after he leaves. We are all speculating with figures, but if we finish this season with Nani having his best year ever, he’d want the 100k gap closed between him and Sniejder’s 250k, and I don’t even think Nani is on 150k. Breaking our transfer fee record is one thing, but our wages structure is brilliant as it is. I agree tho mate, if he doesn’t come this year he won’t ever come, but better players than Sneijder were close to joining and it didn’t happen so we’re used to it. The thing is, its Barcelona and Europe that everybody has Wes in mind for, but by the time we get to the knockout stages, Young, Cleverly and Anderson will have nearly a years worth of top flight United experience under their belt, and if we’re in form and our luck is in, I’d fancy us to beat anyone. Missing an in form Fletcher and Hargreaves cost us those finals, and imo Hargreaves and Fletcher in top form were just as brilliant as Sneijder in form, so we’re not that far off where we wanna be.
Dammit. Im not used to people liking us.
Balaji. Yeah I suppose your right.
Could anyone work out, roughly, if we’ll end up paying more in wages than or less with Sneijder probably being on 190k or around that. Considering we’ve sold a lot with probably Gibson, Kuszcack, Obertan and Diouf still to leave. But then again our new arrivals must be on decent money.
Can’t wait to watch the FA cup side and Carling Cup side play this year, nice confidence and quality about the fringe players.
A bulked up Fletcher, that’s a scary prospect for any opposition, that’s about as anti tippy tappy bollocks as you get!
Balaji – Just checking some old articles, when we signed young. Some had him on 120/130k a week. I’d think, it would be around the 100k mark. I know the dippers were interested in him and then city(as usual) tried to scupper our deal for him. Whether this affected, what we were gonna offer him, who knows?
i don’t get why diouf should leave, why? because he ain’t household name yet? he has performed alot better than macheda, keeps banging in the goals and thats all a striker can do
I think he should stay, he could suprise people if given the chance, plus we don’t have a striker of his style at the club, you need plan A and b but c and d wouldn’t be bad, give him a chance even if its in cup games and occasional premier league games.
Who says that the americans are brash? What nonsense!
New York Cosmos ambassador Shep Messing says “New York Cosmos have a heritage, they have a legacy, they have a standard and Beckham fits right into that character profile so you imagine the New York Cosmos team with a Beckham, with a Messi and with a Cristiano Ronaldo.
“I think it’s not going to happen overnight and it’s hard to draw an analogy to the players that we had before but I do think the New York Cosmos will attract the best players in the world.”
http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/sports/2011/08/06/cosmos-interested-in-signing-beckham/
I don’t get what it is with football, but at work, I don’t know what anybody else is on and they don’t know how much I’m on. Quite frankly I prefer it that way. Why does football have to be so transparent regarding individual wages? If they kept the wages personal then you wouldn’t get other players giving it the big un saying “I want the same as him”. A players wages should be between himself and the hierachy and if they want to pay a certain wage they will. I’m not going to go to my boss demanding to know how much a collegue is earning and telling her I’m better than them so up my wage! Just a thought…
Cheer up pritch. All you do pal is moan. Bet you are a barrel of laughs.
I would like us to get Sneijder but sone of the comments on here are laugable. If he goes City they will win the league and dominate for five years. Are you serious? Would take more than Wes going to them for that to happen. They are a joke and will never overtake United. Millions spent on the sheiks wishlist. Fuck all unity or team spirit. Built on sand. They do not concern me in the slightest. Set of greedy cunts.
Regarding Obertan. Looks like he is off lads. Wouldn’t have missed Monaco last night and training today if he was staying. Let’s hope Barton comes the other way! (Ducks).
Joey B in the Red house?
Panties, release!
Obertan will stay, i’ve seen slight improvement in his game, he has bulked up like the incredible hulk, has got devastating pace but only thing he lacked was an end product to go with his technical abilities.
this pre-season though, he has been good, he has created chances, has bullied fullbacks and can score, if he keeps improving the end product then i think he’ll give the current wingers at the club a run for their money.
However one of the things that separates the best from the rest is that extra desire and drive, does obertan have this? time will tell but he certainly needs confidence.
Confidential wage structures suit the employer. Employees are indoctrinated into believing that privacy in this regard is more valuable than cash. Another con against the working class.
http://www.eatsleepsport.com/manchester-united/young-admits-to-fergie-nerves-1253763.html
We know how you feel Ashley lol.
@ Fly – If your saying Young is only here for money thats “incorrect” mate. He could be on a lot more than 100k by signing elsewhere. Young is here because he wants to play for United, he made that very clear behind the scenes 2 years ago. The likes of Wayne Bridge and Gareth Barry get 100k a week as English internationals, but one of them doesn’t even play, and the other one is 30 years old and doesn’t score or assist half as many goals as Young. Liverpool were also interested in talking to him, but his head wasn’t turned after telling the Villa owner he wanted to come to United. No doubt the Pensioners would’ve also signed the best English midfielder if he was available. You should look into it, Young isn’t screaming it from the rooftops but he could’ve started a bidding war for his signature, especially with City, he’s a younger better version of Wright Phillips. At the end of the day, he wanted to sign for Alex and become a better player who wins trophies. Same thing with Berbatov.
@Balaji – agreed, I wouldn’t call him a mercenary for staying at Inter, clearly United isn’t every players number one dream move. Plus, like Smartalex is saying, there is an outside chance he could still join, and once the window closes im sure Alex will reveal more in a press conference.
@King Eric – can you imagine if Alex decided to sign Barton? Fuuuucking ell. Gutted about Obertan if thats true, but I’ll be honest it does look like he’s off to toon town, at least all the players speak french up there, and he’ll have Brown and O’Shea down the road.
@Samuel – I’ve been saying the same thing for ages mate. Diouf has looked a player for a while, and he scored the exact same number of goals as Welbeck last season. Add the fact that he has a completely different game to Danny and Kiko and it does make you wonder why he is consistently written off as surplus. Even the manager has specifically said he isn’t going anywhere.
Obertan is a cracking buy for Newcastle, he’s getting better all the time and if he does go then I hope he does good things. We’ll make back what we spent on him and he’ll get regular football.
I think it’s a bit soon to start edging out Diouf, I thought he looked alright last night and I enjoyed chanting his name after he scored….it’s the little things.
Yeah they are funny at that paper but so are the writers on here who are slow to recognise that Sneijder has agreed to sign for City and not for us. I have said it here before and I say it again, Man United are absolutely useless at getting the players they want. Now we either have to dive into the bargain bin yet again or play without a playmaker in midfield and if we do we stand no chance.
Sack the ones in charge of getting new players!
Young is here to win things. Watching old Clarence Seedorf, what a player still. Not got that legs anymore, but still a class act on the ball.
swedeldum, where’s swedeldee?
Nani says: “It’s also our first derby of the season, so to lift the trophy would raise our morale and inflict pain on our rivals.”
“I prefer to forget the rumours about other clubs being interested in me,” he added. “I don’t want to say too much but, if they are true, it’s because I have been working well.”
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11679_7084392,00.html
When we play down the importance of a game we get beat.
swede
sneijder to city is not true at all.
that is all
Swede – Are you a manic depressive?
@WHAT?? – exactly buddy, the manager has clearly seen Something in his game that makes him believe diouf can make it, he probably is one of those players that will take time to blossom but hey rome wasn’t built in a day.
The likes of owen and berba will depart soon and you gotta have player’s to take over the duties, you can’t ever have enough quality, he brings something different to the strikers department, the loan at blackburn must have given him experience so lets see what he can offer.@WHAT?? – exactly buddy, the manager has clearly seen Something in his game that makes him believe diouf can make it, he probably is one of those players that will take time to blossom but hey rome wasn’t built in a day.
The likes of owen and berba will depart soon and you gotta have player’s to take over the duties, you can’t ever have enough quality, he brings something different to the strikers department, the loan at blackburn must have given him experience so lets see what he can offer.
Top post, Swede. Our transfer activity has been absolute rubbish lately. Never mind the signings of Hernandez, Berbatov, Evra, Vidic and the twins over the last five years. Why didn’t we sign Sanchez or Sneijder-I signed them both on Football Manager and they’ve both been terrific. It’s a shame Sir Alex doesn’t share half my vision when it comes to identifying talent.
Sky sports denying what the reliable italian paper writes is just madness. I never thought Sky would sink as low as their owner.
@dela, The real question is why you felt the need to sign them both in Football Manager? What happened, mate?
WillieRedNut @ 14″17: “Young is on at least 100k a week. Some reports said, 130k a week.”
There goes “the wage structure”.
Sneijder has just waved towards the inter fans and thrown his shirt into the crowd. He’s now doing a lap of honour with a Manchester United flag raised above his head….. I wouldn’t read too much into it though!!
This double pasting of comments is annoying, anyone have an idea why this is happening?This double pasting of comments is annoying, anyone have an idea why this is happening?
@Samuel, I think it is an issue with some mobile versions of ROM. No idea whether Scott has caught up onto it though.
@Balaji
Haha, I know. It’s a shame I couldn’t sign Balotelli. He’s the second best player in the world, you know.
After Emile Heskey
WHAT ??? @ 14:19: “Missing an in form Fletcher and Hargreaves cost us those finals, and imo Hargreaves and Fletcher in top form were just as brilliant as Sneijder in form, so we’re not that far off where we wanna be.”
I’m not sure that their absence “cost us” in that we still might not have won but, dammit, with that pair TheLads would have put up a much, much better fight. That’s why we NEED a fully-fit DarrenFletcherinho (in his “football genius mode”) and I’d be very, very, very happy to have him playing alongside Daniele De Rossi. Sigh.
By the way, anyone watch Borussia Dortmund last night ? Mario Gotze is some kind of wonderful and Shinji Kagawa ain’t half-bad, either.
TwistedFatboy @ 14:50 : “Obertan is a cracking buy for Newcastle, he’s getting better all the time and if he does go then I hope he does good things.”
Maybe – he’s a real enigma, wrapped in a puzzle, inside a quandry. The glimpses of up-side are truly exhilirating BUT…… I’m not sure that Newcastle is the best destination for him – he’d be better off getting proper coaching from Owen Coyle or Roberto Martinez, at Wigan.
Martinez is over rated imo.
Balaji – oh thanks, hopefully he sorts it out soon.
Personally I’m extremely relaxed about the Sneijder deal falling through it that’s the way things end up – £30m+ £250pw wages is just way too much to pay. Sneijder is a decent player and seems like a good chap but the risks to dressing room harmony to high unless SFA plans to build the team around him.
Bring on the kids!
SAF has built something permanent at United. Even now, after more than 2 decades at the helm, SAF’s priorities are fixed on ensuring that his legacy to United is one of success is embedded within the DNA of the club. The nuturing of young talent, be it home grown or bought in, has been a key feature of this, allied to working with quality players who possess a desire to better themselves, football wise. United ‘s owners have had the good sense to give SAF his head on footballing matters.
Mancini on the other hand has to answer to an Arab potentate for whom City is a just plaything. Naturally, as is the way with kids and toys, instant gratification is the order of the day. Mancini must win trophies,now, and keep on winning them, to stand any chance of staying in a job. Money is no object, yes, but over anything but the short run this impossible to achieve. Players know this, their agents know this, and what’s more, Mancini knows this and as such City will seek and attract the attentions of each and every badge kissing mercenary bastard who strings a decent run of games together elsewhere. But once they get to City what do they find? A soulness money driven shithole driven by greed and fear and benchwarmers earning £100K, 200k per week who don’t give a shit and who are going to end up behind United anyway. It’s a vicious circle that can only end in tears.
The chances of Sneijder joining City – 0%.
No one will give up Inter to join a club with no history. I will say this though even with the promising Cleverley there is no way we can go into the season with this midfield.
Rai
Wherefore art thou, Red prince?
Looks like the Obertan news is gathering steam – I am disappointed…if it goes through, expect Obertan to trouble us when we play Newcastle! I really think the lad has some serious potential, and I thought he was actually showing it on the US tour. Pity this…
And we have offloaded Obertan way too early into his United career – compared to the massive amounts of time we usually give our youth to make a statement, Obertan hasn’t been afforded that patience. OR maybe, he wasn’t patient enough…never know, but tell you what, I would rather keep Obertan than have this Sneijder nonsense drag on for ever. Every off season we have to go through these infuriating transfer stories – out or in!
Mr C, it’s about WHICH expensive players you buy. Not how many of them. The likes of Rio, Rooney and Van Nistelrooy and there are more were fantastic buys and all pricey.
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind and every pundit and united legend agrees that United (after being tought a lesson by Barca AGAIN) need Sneijder.
Obertan always looks good pre season and superb in the reserves, however, whenever he is given an opportunity to show what he’s got in the first team he fails to take his chance producing ordinary performances at the very best. He has an undoubted talent but right now it seems that he hasn’t got that extra dimension to become a United regular IMO.
It boggles my mind that some United supporters who claim to want the best for the club think going on with this terrible central midfield is right.
Don’t go all high and mighty on other clubs about spending just because we can’t, Glazer is a cunt because if he wasn’t then Sneijder would be signed by now.
The rest of the squad is PERFECT to the T don’t get me wrong however the central midfield is a joke Carrick, Fletcher and Giggs? They may be ideal for the PL, but no chance we topple the European elite with that CM and i’m sick and tired of being passed around and humiliated by that team from Cataluna because everyone knows with the right pieces in the middle of the park we CAN beat them.
swede is quite clearly a WUM. that’s now been established.
Wum and dum!
The Fly is spot-on at 16:18.
swede is a WUM, and a poor one at that.
swedelwum!
@Giles
That was great insight about Ando. Till a few days before, I thought Ando was someone with really poor finishing. I also felt that he read the game well and knew which would be the perfect pass but his passing was always a little bit off. But, in the videos I saw of him, he seemed to be a really good finisher and even if his passes weren’t in the league of The Ginger Prince, they were pretty good. This pre-season he seems to have stepped up a level or two and I am hoping to see him carry that form for the rest of the season.
I have a really good feeling about this season for some reason. I see us absolutely dominating!
And about the Sneijder situation, Balaji has provided a convincing logic as to why Sneijder will not join Shitty. Hope he is right.
P.S. Cedars, it’s still too early to do the Hula
Bore off swede you wum.
Abs. Think you are being dramatic pal. Do folk really think getting Wes would be the difference between beating Barca or not? Barca have been together for years. That’s what we want our young lads to do now. Its more than buying thirty million pound players. I want Sneijder but he isn’t the difference maker in beating Barca or not. I am quite happy to be honest with Fletch Carrick Cleverley Giggs Anderson Park etc. Aint that fucking weak. People are going well over the top and this weak midfield line is getting boring. We have had nad injuries there the last two years. A fit Fletcher is what we need. Since when have United played with a playmaker? I fucking hate that term. Modric is deemed one despite four goals and about three assists in two seasons. Piss take.
Anyway fuck Barca. How many times will we even play them. Once at most.
According to the Gingindlovu Gazette we’ve sold de Gea and Lindegaard to Real Madrid.
I knew they weren’t good enough. This also proves that Gill’s right leg is too long.
Forgive my ignorance fellas but what is a WUM?
Ando is the one shining light in our central midfield he has that flair that other top united midfielders had. Pair him with a world class midfielder and we can win anything.
Wind up merchant.
Tunni on for P’borough! Go on son, make us proud!
Abs. Just tell me pal then. What would sneijder bring to help us beat Barca? Would he harry them and get in their faces ? No probably not. That is one way to beat them. I want wes to join but this notion he is the difference is ludicrous. Also our midfield is not a joke as you put it. Infact its decent with the young lads coming through including Pogba. Mark my words Cleverley will be one hell of a player these next couple of years. Also think Anderson will. Let’s not forget that sometimes players are in others shadows. We seen it with Nani. Now Scholes has gone its time for others to step up.
I aint wearing red tinted glasses and I would like another midfielder for numbers alone but I won’t have it our current one is a joke. It bossed the so called rentboys top midfield four times or more last season if you include Wembley.
And there’s still people crying about the obvious bullshit rumour over Wes to City. They keep going on about it as if it’s true and it’s doing my SWEDE in.
It’s happening. There’s positive’s and negative’s to it which have been discussed. I think there’s a lot more positive. Wesley Sneijder is one of the best players in the world. He’s recognised as a superstar. In the peak of his career and everyone around him and people who claim to be around him say he wants to play for Manchester United. Nobody will be moaning about his huge price (because I can’t deny he will cost us a lot of money) when we destroy West Brom thanks to him and sent out a devastating message to our rivals.
Sneijder last week could have said “I am 100% not leaving Inter for anyone”, instead he goes for the tried and trusted “We shall see”. Even Fergie now is giving up on the denials. ‘Off the record’ quotes from Bob Cass. Gasperini also confirming there has been an offer.
Tom Cleverley is part of the future. He’ll succeed here. But not yet. And I wouldn’t put my hopes on Ando, as good as he COULD be. Cleverley and Anderson might take the league by storm. Sneijder (even if he takes a little while to adjust) will take the league by storm. Rooney, Sneijder, Nani in the same line-up, sensational.
I still need to see more of Cleverley. And is it only me who thought he was left footed? Until last night I didn’t know he used his right.
King Eric, it’s not weak don’t get me wrong but don’t you want United to be the best wherever we go? I hate, absolutely detest being second best in anything and i can’t stand Barca lifting that fucking trophy at our expense as we pick up a medal for ‘participating’.
I may be going overboard by saying our midfield is a joke but it’s just because i’m so passionate about this team reaching their potential. I don’t want to see great players like Vidic, Rio, Evra, Rooney, Hernandez and Nani have to suffer defeats like the one in May because they deserve better after everything they give us.
We are so privileged at United to have such talent like that but have to endure such a mediocre midfield, then again i was going to games when we had the likes of Robbo, Cantona, Keano and Scholesy so it’s probably why i set a high standard.
Betting on football, is for mugs.
what i don’t understand is why Obertan should go and Diouf stays. Personally both still have a lot to prove and should be sent on loan. This would be mame’s second loan spell. so what? My four strikers for next season would be – Rooney, Hernandez,Wellbeck and Berbatov. Owen and Kiko for emergencies and cup games
Those 4 and only those 4 have a legitimate claim, i feel to be the main strikers for the upcoming season. its a nice blend with all four having different styles that complement the team. Danny is going to be huge next season, this preseason he reminds me of Berbatov with pace to burn. Truly excited about the forward players we’ve got. i haven’t been this confident about that area since we had Ronaldo and tevez in the squad. It really looks formidable, packed with pace, ingenuity and goals
and FFS how is the obertan rumor gathering steam. i get the feeling posters are over reacting. there’s been one report with no quotes and its built up as if its a done deal. sheeesh. at least we get a day out on Sunday against the noisy neighbors. That should be fun
News to break on the sniejder man within hours apparently!!!
Video highlights of:
Manchester United 6-0 New York Cosmos
Paul Scholes Testimonial Speech
Paul Scholes Post Match Interview
Sir Alex Ferguson Post Match Interview
http://www.sportskeeda.com/2011/08/06/paul-scholes-testimonial-video-highlights/
@willie
I bet that I can make you bet…
Slim – Too right. Cleverley has been on loan three times already (Leicester, Watford and Wigan) and it didn’t do him any harm.
Mickjk – why not just break it now? I’m sick of these pricks. It will be nothing.
A reprise of my July 16th ode:
- – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – -
Yesterday, oh my Sneijder seemed so far away.
Now it looks as though he’s on his way
Oh, I believe in Wes today.
Suddenly,
We’ve lost Paul the man who used to be,
There’s an opening hanging overtly,
Oh, Wes please come suddenly.
Wesley will come out tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow there’ll be Wes!
Just thinkin’ about tomorrow clears away the cobwebs,
And the sorrow ’til there’s less!
When I’m stuck in a day that’s gray, and lonely,
I just stick out my chin and grin, and say, Oh!
Our Wes’ll come out tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on ’til tomorrow come what may
Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
Can’t wait ’til tomorrow!
Wes is only a day away!
Coffee is for mugs.
news to break at 9pm apparently. and i can assure you it will be that wesley has been sitting on a contract offer from united, as the mirror reported, since he’s been in beijing. the terms match his current terms so no money issues. it will be ‘inter accept a bid from manchetser UNITED. this has been well known on the interweb for a while now.
don’t even doubt me. wit until the announcement. thank me later.
smartalex
I shudder at the thought of wee Wes joining CIteh, after all the Wes chants we’ve come up with.
It’s hard to expect footballers not to have money as a priority, I suppose. It’s times like these that make you love players like the Berb all the more.
Anyway, I still haven’t given up on wee Wes just yet. Fingers crossed and all that.
no need for crossed fingers
Thanks Fly!
Afternoon all…… some nice posts for me to read.
Special mention of course to the ever happy and cheerful pritch and the ever confident of United’s abilities swede…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M
The fly. Hope you are right mate. Regards Tom I HAVE seen a lot of him. Followed him since he was about seventeen and this kid will be the nuts. Stepped up to EVERY single challenge and then some. Seriously mate this kid is top drawer. Yes he is both footed mate. A very intelligent little player.
Abs. Fair play mate. I know what you mean. Nice one.
Who’s being a smug mug?
More twitter bollox…
Man, after reading TheFly’s and King Eric’s comments I’m so confident right now. I can’t wait for the boys in red to get stuck into those City mugs tomorrow!
update
all the ‘in the know’ twitter people all saying that today City did make contact. But Sneijder again made it clear immdiately that he’s only interested in United. announcement on ongoings expected sooner than 9pm now.
oh the tension
dela
Fear not!
Sneijder shan’t shack at shadowy Sheik’s Shitty shysters.
Wesley will want winning ways with wonderful wintery weeks.
King Eric
With you 100% re Cleverley, I am really confident the lad will make the step and shine for us, I am also confident that we will finally see what Ando is all about.
We will demolish City tomorrow. And I’m rarely confident about anything unless the subject is a certain dutchman. I always look at the negatives and from there I just worry until the game is over. But I am certain tomorrow could be stunning. They are mercenaries. I hope and expect Vidic to snap Balotelli into 9 pieces, within the first five minutes. We’ll come out flying. Use the pace in the team, run with the ball. Direct quick passing. Give the ball to Rooney to demonstrate that he is the best player on earth. I can sense it.
4-0 COME ON UNITED.
Football season officially starts 3pm tomorrow.
love writing about united
Take your lugs out her jugs humbug, and hug this smug mug.
The Fly
I share that thought my friend, as I said before United is not just a football club, its never about the trophies, United is a life style and a love affair
Mug off.
As the wind whistles through the Cedars, spare a thought for the the anti-wee-wes clique.
They’re on their last legs now. Straws have been clutched, and broken by Balaji’s camel.
willierdenut
you sound like a cockney having ‘mug’ as every second word. can’t be ‘avin that.
It’ll be a muggy day in Ulster before this mug flies off it’s handle.
Don’t send us flowers, because we are not dead.
You’re cockeyed Fly, if you think I’m a cockney.
After seeing scholes last night i only wish he would have stayed on for 1 more season.
The games where we are playing a team outside the top 6 where they park their bus, there was no better player to have than the Paul Scholes.
Id really love to give Anderson the Chance but the thought of having Snijeder excites me.
Who knows whats round the corner if this 9pm announcement is true! If snijeder signs for city it wont be the end of the world, however I will be pig sick if they ever win the league!……:(
Wesley Sneijder signs for Manchester City
according to twiiter
Cedars. Spot on my friend. Me too. I have noticed in the games where Tom and Ando start they have done a lot of closing down. Getting in their faces and not giving them time on the ball. Summat we have missed bigtime wihthout Fletcher. Another thing I have notived is they both drop deep BUT make lots of runs into the box.
Yeah the BIG difference tomorrow will be Wayne. Not banned this time you cunts. I too cannot see anything but a United win. They are still in a fuckoing mess. Too much pace and movement in the side for them to deal with.
Ha. Good to see dirty Leeds getting turned over. Can see them going down this season.
smartalex, Nice one @ 17:50 mate.
The Red Letter Day is upon us.
I reckon that in recent seasons Sir Alex has tended to start with the younger players and bring in the old hands in the second half.
Perhaps that means Rio, Giggs and Park don’t start tomorrow.
Along with Clev & Ando im also looking forward to seeing more of Wellbeck.
Delusional the lot of you, the party will take place under my own Cedar come September 1st…..
Thanks Balaji!
When the cock crows, we can too!
Make your mind up, Fly.
Also looking forward to see if Fabio or Refeal can stay Injury Free for 2 whole months! Grrrrgh!
I can see Jones cement himself as our Regular right back.
I’m with Cedars, delusional.
Ando, Carrick, Fletch, Park, Giggs, Cleverley …………. 6 players that the boss can choose any 2 from to play in the middle, do we really need anymore?
Tomorrows match doesnt mean much. Its a win win situation, perfect!
Nothing beats a good high profile match at the start of the season to warm up with!
If we win, Great … one up over Chity.
If we lose then it WILL be a kick up the arse and give a wake up call to up their game.
Either way its going to be a high tempo game and win win situation for me!.
Chelsea are our main threat but there better players are getting on and I don’t see them going the distance. City? no chance, Aguero will take time I expect him to have the same impact and Dzeko and Balotelli did last season. Arsenal? no chance. Pool? they may break into the top 4, I still think that’s unlikely but they may do it. To suggest they’ll win the league is totally ridiculous.
Don’t forget Bruce Springstein Cedars.
Thanks for that Willie, how could I forget him!
@Cedars
Supposedly Gibson is in the mix too. But it’s not just about numbers, Like I’ve said in the past, the problem is what happens if Fletcher is missing.
@SJP
I dissagree with regards to chity, i can see them going close this year. The main lot of players have had 2-3 years playing together and are starting to Gel.
For me any team needs a god number of players playing together for 3-4 years> Getting to know each other, their position & whats expected of them.
Without doubt, they will be up there!… They have far too much tallent in their squad not to be!
@Cedars, I hope you know by now, but do not trust a certain WRD. I am telling you this now even though we are on opposite sides of this war. He is like Evelyn Salt from the movie. Nobody knows his true loyalties.
@Costas
what happens if Carrick and fletcher is missing?
@CedarsDevil
How can you be happy with just 6 centre mids when Liverpool have a dozen? It’s surely their year now. Sigh.
Costas
We coped quite well for most of last season without Fletch, granted we had struggled in some away games but we got to the finishing line. I am praying that lightning will not strike twice with regards to Fletch…
Balaji
No need to warn me about WRD, he is very much in my small pocket, just like you are as well
@Trevor
Panic mode.
Nah, I guess Ando and Cleverley will step in. But we have to hope that we don’t lose Fletcher for the big games. Because he is immense in those.
dela
Too right, I am actually pissing my pants with fear thinking of the strength in depth at Liverpool, I mean can you imagine a trio of Henderson, Adam and Lucas in the middle…………. shivers
@Costas
I do think we will sea more of Park in the middle, he was superb in some games last season playing there.
Although it was nice to see Pogba last night, hee looks to be quite strong. Nice wee tussle with him and Viera at one point, pogba coming out on top!.. Havent seen this kid much and everyone is raving about him.
Bastian Schweinsteiger on again? Thought that was put to rest. Sigh, We need to get the transfer season behind us fast.
Costas = Nervous Illness hahahaha
SJP. Yeah pal. I would agree with that. As old and stale as the rentboys are they know how to win things and have experience. Barrung nasty injuries I can honestly see us piss the league this year.
Slim. Hello mate. Spot on about Danny. Cannot believe how much he has come on. A right player. Like he said. He went to Sunderland a boy and came back a man.
@Cedars
I think his absence was evident at the Emirates, Anfield, the semi final against City and even the final against Barcelona. With Fletcher missing, our midfield didn’t put up much of a fight in those games.
@Trevor
Park is another option, but usually in a 3 man midfield. I don’t remember him ever playing as a CM in a 4-4-2 though. Same goes for Valencia, who’s also capable of playing in the centre. I think Pogba will be a option long term. I was hoping to see him in the US tour, but that didn’t come to pass. Maybe he will play in the League cup this season.
@Willierednut – Spot on about Young, he’s here for the history, and I concur, Seedorf still has it. He’s up there with the best to ever do it.
@Smartalex – Nani said he wants to “inflict pain” on City? Haha, what a cheeky little sod, I remember people wanted Da Silva over Nani. God willing, this will be his best season yet.
@Denton – No guarantee that we would’ve won either match, but you’ve gotta admit, Hargo and Fletcher’s form prior to the first and second final (respectively) was game changing. For instance, look at Fletcher’s performances against Arsenal in recent seasons, thats exactly what we’ve missed at times, somebody to stick a boot in, get the flipping ball, and distribute it with a cool head. Sneijder is class in the middle, but we’ve got class all over the pitch, what I really want is a proper ball winner, with an engine, who can pass. Fletcher on his day can do that, and he’ll even nick a few goals. We’ll soon find out what the squad will be, I can’t wait for tomorrow tho. I think you’d faint and bang your head on the keyboard if we ever signed De Rossi!
King Eric @ spot on about the Ando-Tom dynamic, they do look like complementary players.
@ Slim, i think the point me and Samuel were making is that people have been saying Diouf isn’t United quality since he signed, but the truth is he’s vying with Welbeck for the top spot, and Kiko is firmly in third place at the moment. Thank fuck Alex doesn’t deal in sentiments, because if we’re talking form alone there is no way Kiko has outperformed Welbeck or Diouf for the last 12+ months. Even in pre-season Welbeck looks a shade sharper, and Diouf looks the player Ole said he was. We’ve all got high hopes for Kiko but the boy has to step up, its a shame he didn’t also go to an English club last season, but this year Alex said he’s keeping all 7 strikers so lets objectively see who takes the opportunity by the throat.
Costas
I agree buddy, in the sense that Fletch will be missed and especially as you say in the big games. Here is hoping he will be fit and back to his best sooner rather than later
Trevor, I too consider Jones to be a likely starter at Right Back this season.
Also similar to you, my suggestions of such has met on disinterested ears each of the half dozen times I’ve mentioned it. Even though he played there briefly on the US tour, I’ve only seen 1 other mention of this consideration.
Let’s start a ‘Jones will be Right Back’ clique, leave a message?
Trevor. Hello mate. Are you the same trev that’s been posting for ages on the blog and used to have your name in red? Yeah Pogba has been quality since the day he arrived from Le Havre. In essence he is a defensive midfielder but he has more flair than that. And his goals. His fucking goals. Absolute screamers the lot of them. Interesting that it doesn’t appear he is going on loan. Fergie must think he aint far off. Hope Tunnicliffe does well as I really like that kid. A tough little cunt that takes no prisoners.
Regards City Trevor I have to disagree. Aside from Silva and Kompany I don’t particularly rate many of them. Hart is ok. Full backs are shit. No proper wingers as I aint a fan of that prick Johnson. Toures heart aint in it. De jong is more suited to a boxing ring. Aguero could go either way and don’t get me started on fucking Balotelli and possibly THE worst expensive striker in history Dzeko. Fucking shit. No mate when I look at their squad I just see greed. Players with no heart for the club who would leave in a blink of eye. No foundations to build on like United. All mouth and no trousers. No mate in short a bunch of greedy,mercenary mouthy cunts. In addition playing in a proper European competition will take its toll. Disgusting club. Here for the short term with no thought of tomorrow. For fuck sake how can they justify should HUGE wages and transfer fees with such little income? They will be shown up ayt Wembley tomorrow. Both on the pitch but especially off it. Can’t even sell their allocation. Wembley will be Red tomorrow.
King Eric
Brilliant post & rant about the bitters…………. Bloody loved it
smartalex
Good call re Jones at right back, we also have Smalling who seems very comfortable playing there as well when needed….. Nice to see that the boss has adequate cover all over the pitch
Paul Parker. Thanks mate. Yeah they look a greaty combination.
Lads. Obertan IS going to barcodes. Pardew just confirmed he is in for talks on Monday.
smartalex, Your “Jones will be Right Back” clique is not going to sit well with Costas’ “We need one more full back” clique.
Top post King Eric I love digging at the Vile Vermin. The De Jong comment Ha Ha.
Do you know who the Utd midfielder is who joined Newcastle? Just caught the back end of it on SSN. Not sure if its loan or perminant.
i actually disagree with some the opinions of pogba so far. his work rate and other facets of a midfielder who plays in his position needs to be improved on on a grand scale. I say grand because the way he plays, if he loses the ball and i DID see him lose the ball and he looked up in the sky like berba does and just jogged casually back into position. i seen him do it on preseason and for the reserves.
Just saying there’s still a whole lot of work to do. He is a major talent though and i hope Fergie gives him a run out of premier league games this season. 10 games should do. Owen played as teenager, as did both Ronaldo’s, Rooney, Rio i think. we’ve got a gem on our hands, waitng for another player to retire so he can slot is counter productive if you ask me. It’ll be good if he play with the big boys in the first team. You can bet your top dollar Rooney,Vida or Fletcher will give him an earful if he takes it lightly.Those guys will be good for his development and with the Ginger prince helping out with the coaching his development can only be accelerated. Good times fellow Reds, the youth shall inherit the Earth – i mean Old Trafford
@WHAT ??? – Sir Alex said recently that Nani’s personality had also improved, as he’d really come out of his shell last season. It has been plain to see. His interviews and general behaviour that we have seen has become not dissimilar to Rooney’s mischievous charm.
As the weight of expectation is replaced by belief, top young players thrive.
@ King Eric,
Yes im the same, used to have an online shop and have it linked. Closed it.
I dont know, Johson is handy, Toure and Toure arnt bad.
Dejong is a thug but an effective thug!… He is in the keane mold of players! not many of them about these days.
Johnson & milner are ok too as well
With the confidence of winning the Fa Cup they might just take that into this season and prove difficult
Cedars – I wouldn’t tell you a word of a lie mate. I’m a cockney, after all.
@smartalex
I think the comments from Fergie where more so letting Nani know he had to grow up!…
@Cedars
Hope so too mate. Because like Denton said, a fit Fletcher is a certain starter in my book. We sometimes tend to forget how crucial the lad’s emergence was after Hargreaves went missing. Don’t know where we would have been the last 3 years without him.
Cedars. Thanks a lot mate. Yeah I have to vent my spleen as far as City are concerned. A truly horrible club. Worse than the rentboys when they won the lottery. They seriously think they are a big club. What’s funny is their fans say “we have won TWO trophies“. Yeah one of them was the fucking Dublin cup last week. Some baby faced little tosser presenting sky last night said “City fans confident the balance of power is shifting “. How the fuck can they come out with piffle like that? They are nowhere near us in terms of class, trophies,history,fans and never will be. How the fuck does winning ONE FA cup suddenly make them on our level. Fucking pompey won it a few years ago. Their win was tainted anyway by that public schoolboy cunt Bernstein. Then again that won’t matter a fuck to City fans. Win at all costs despite United being well and truly shafted by the aforementioned and the FA. More pressure on them now as well. They have their tinpot cup out the way now and the fans and board expect more. That smug orange faced clown Richard Madely won’t handle the pressure. Oh and get your fucking haircut.
CedarsDevil
I’m sure that Sir Alex has deliberately identified natural ability as the key to new signings.
King Eric @ 18:40, Top rant. You also forgot to mention that once the Financial Fair Play regulations kicks in, they will be completely fucked. In fact, almost all of the top-tier clubs in Europe including Barcelona and Real Madrid will have to re-think their spending business. There are only two clubs immune to that and only one of them is successful enough to keep up with the rules. The system installed by Sir Alex, and Sir Matt, is often under-rated, but it has to be one of the greatest innovations in football. Manchester United has always been like an assembly line – constantly producing top-quality footballers from our youth system. That has meant that we can remain successful in spite of global recession, financial fair play and any other potentially disastrous scenario which is sure to hurt shitholes like City and Chelsea.
Paul Parker at 18:32 summed up what we need in midfield very well. Just saying that instead of repeating my opinion for the 1789th time.
@Balaji
Heh, I wouldn’t mind that a lot actually. Obviously Phil isn’t a regular right back, but imo he is the most expendable at the moment and is still young enough to learn the position. Save Smalling for the centre of defence as I like to say.
What?
i hear what you’re saying. I think Kiko needs another loan move and you could put Diouf in that bracket as well. There are simply too many and i appreciate what Diouf can bring to the table, that said Danny looks the part and he’d fit in easier than Mame. Home lad and all, danny deserves a shot at it and he’s played better. Forget the goals, yeah they scored the same but there’s a lot more than the stats. Wellbeck all the way for me
Balaji – I think they’ll get around the FFP rules and make a mockery of them in doing so. Haven’t they just given THEMSLEVES a £400m sponsorship deal?
Cunts. Corrupt as fuck.
Speaking of Citeh, I found these Mankini quotes quite hillarious:
“They are on the top,” Mancini said. “They’re a strong team, they won the last Premier League, they have bought good players and at the moment they are over us. We are very close but United have maybe five yards more than us.
“We want to improve on last season and we’ll try to win the Premier League but we need two or three more players and, if we can do that, I think we will be very close. But look at United – they have 29 senior players whereas we have 20. To be competitive, we need more. We’re missing players, we don’t have enough for the whole season and it’s a problem. We haven’t managed to get all the players we want and it is important we get them now in the next seven days.”
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So he’s basically using our squad size to demand MORE players.
Yeah, we have 29 senior players if you count the likes of Kus, Gibbo and Obertan who might not even be at our club at the end of August. Meanwhile, if you look at wikipedia, City have around 25 senior players…
@King Eric
doing okay fella. A man indeed. I had my reservations about him when he went to Sunderland and i thought yep thats his way out and even when the season ended and it looked like he wasn’t going back i was pouting like a spoiled brat. Boy did he surprise me over the last months or so. I went and checked him out properly in the games he played for Sunderland and i realized the boy really matured and stepped his game up.
i don’t want to get unnecessarily excited but the guy plays like Dimitar with pace to burn and that can only be awesome for the squad. In fact he’s one of the reasons i want the Berb to stay, he can learn a lot from him. If Danny can base his game on his ball playing skill and use his pace as a get out of jail card he’ll be quite simply phenomenal. Like Saha on Steroids and Dimitar on some new age hippie drug, mesmirizing with his footwork and deadly pace. I really really really like the look of him. You can also tell he’s been watching us and trying to adapt his game to suit us. I guess he’s not taking any chances, he wants to be ready when called up on. good stuff, really good stuff
To be fair, I’ve always found Mancini to be dignified and respectful about United, unlike his predecessor Mark Hughes, surprisingly.
Controversial I know, but I don’t mind Mancini at all.
@Trevor
You could be right. I enjoy seeing Nani being impishly overt. Also, he’s shown great maturity in his approach over the last 2 years at least. We remember Ronaldo’s work ethic, and it pays off for sure. However, CR7 is different to Nani, who many believe to be easily affected by other’s opinions of him. Perhaps the Player’s POTY awarded will reinforce his self belief, but you’re probably on the money that Nani is still maturing.
Farewell to Gabby Obertan, a true United legend.
Fred
In a way I agree about Mancini which is a pity………….. Shame he could not be a bit more like Benitez!
@slim 18.54
That’s pretty much how I feel on Pogba. A star in the making, but not quite yet. Sir Alex will play this one to perfection. He won’t rush the lad. No need to rush him anyway. Still some aspects of his game, that will need to improve before we see him playing regularly in a United team. When he is ready, Pogba and Tunnicliffe will be our midfield for many years. Along with young Morrison, that’s an exciting thought, eh?
@Fred
Nah he is not that bad. He just falls in the same trap that most managers in his position do: “These owners are pissing away money for fun, so I’ll ask for a 45 man squad”.
Fred, Granted about Mancini. All the same, I will like him better when he has lost a fair number of games vs our lot.
@Costas – LOL yeah, and I agree that his attempt to paint City as poor little underdogs with a meagre squad is a bit rich (ironically?)
James. Cheers mate. Obertan is going to Geordies.
Trevor. Aah. Thought so. Hello mate. Don’t see you on here much these days. No de Jong aint fit to lace Keanos boots. He is JUST a stopper. Can’t really play unlike Roy. Not arguing for argument sake but No I really not like Milner. He is shite mate. As Kings says he looks like a fucking hod carrier. I know what you are saying concerning their confidence. Just cannot see it. Mancini is a weak man who let’s the players and owners run the club. Those players he goes for aren’t his choice. Too much shit bubbling under the surface for them to be winners. Top four finish but that’s it imo.
Costas, Shussssh mate. Right now, it is just a bit tense. But come february I hope there will be so much disharmony in their lot that they will be internal combustion ! Then we can all laugh, good times all round.
Mancini never scored in the 94th minute at Wembley, against Oldham for United, that made my old man cry tears of joy Fred!
Willie, I remember it well. Incredible moment.
As City manager he was more concerned with taking shots at us about not being from Manchester and crowing about their cringeworthy Tevez poster and things like that. Really burned his bridges imho.
King Eric – Hello mate. Belting post at 18.40. Spot on. They are a despicable football club and I hate everything about them. I will be seeing the lads for the second time in three days tomorrow. The place will be awash with red. As I said to our good pal smartalex, I will try and get whathever bitters that are there a beating from the police!
willierednut – I’m from the south mate, Kent in fact. Made one bastard journey yesterday to see the Ginger Magician. 6 hours it fucking took me to get there. But it was worth it though. Great turn out, great atmosphere and typical of him to get things underway with a trademark goal. Going to miss him.
@willierednut
exciting? jeez thats understating it. i usually need the Kleenex handy when i see them lads play
@King Eric
Is it a loan? If it is I think It’ll do him good. Bring him back next season with a good run of games under his belt.
No don’t like Mancini. He has a fucking nerve. Always mentioning othert players and tapping up. Anyway I thought they had about fifty four players ay City.
Balaji. Cheers mate. Like Fred said though there will be ways of getting around it.
Slim. He has blown me away these last few months has young Danny. A real class act with great touch vision and technique. I really like him. Think he came of age at the bridge last year when he really was top drawer.
Another reason I thinkl city will find it hard is every team in Ingerlund hates them now so will be well up for it when they play them. Much like United is a cup final these will be but for very different reasons.
King Eric
Fuck me how could i forget he scored at the bridge, the grey cells certainly are turning even more grey
Giles, spot on about Anderson. He’s looked like the most improved player since last season. I think he’s scored two goals with his right foot, which is definitely a sign that he has improved. He looks sharp and ready to score goals this year and considering how much Fergie has praised him I’d say it sounds like he’s ready to break out this year.
Regarding transfers, I really can’t be bothered worrying about any of it. I’ll start caring when and if something happens. All of the hysterical rumors about players reminds me of 12 year old girls speculating on whether some boy likes them or not. We support the one club in the world where we really shouldn’t have to worry about if the manager has assembled a strong enough squad to compete. If Wes comes, great. If he doesn’t or if he joins the bitters, his loss. We’re the ones who will be winning the league this year regardless. Yes, I’d love to get Sneijder or any of the other rumored targets. But if you want my honest opinion, here it is: Cleverly/Anderson>Sneijder/Modric/Nasri. I like our guys.
On another note, where have all these cunts and wum’s come from?
King Eric
please make your own blog. every post is class, and correct.
Neil
You echo my thoughts exactly buddy………top post
Kings. Hello mate. Cheers. Hope you enjoy it tomorrow pal and give one or two of them a fucking hiding.
James. Permanent I think mate.
the rentboys have signed the belgian wonderkid Lukaku. Not a bad signing if i do say so
It was great to see Pogba and Vieira on the same pitch as I felt Pogba resembled Vieira when he was new at United and now I could see that the boy is a future copy of the much hated frenchman.
Great to see a lot of fellow reds that realise that our current midfield is weak and that it needs strengthening. Your voices are heard loud and clear through the noise of the beer monsters trying to kill the debate and who feel the truth is what they say cause they shout the loudest.
King Eric – Thanks mate. Well if you put it like that, I will take a pestle with me and smash some skulls!
Neil, “12 year old girls” – Trust me I was like you until I heard the name Wesley Sneijder being bandied about. After that I became what I despised and turned into a 12 year old girl hoping the smart boy asks her out on a date. Now, I feel ashamed.
And about the bitters, the only player they have whom I rate is Silva. And to be honest I like him more because of the way he carries himself. He seems less of a mercenary cunt than the rest, and he keeps a low profile and shows good sportsmanship. He doesn’t self-promote like the rest of those mercenaries and he’s the only player among that collection of twats that seems to be a team-first player. The rest are a total waste of money.
People seem to forget that there was a time last season where Mancini was rumored to be getting sacked at any moment. If they don’t win anything this year he might get sacked. Those bitters are just another Chelsea. If Mancini gets sacked the next idiot they hire will blow up the squad and start over with new players. Fucking joke of a club
Kings – Hello mate! Have a great day tomorrow! We’ll be keeping an eye on the arrest stats, no doubt the deluded bitters will be filling the wagons. Enjoy!
Anybody get the impression the Arabs are in the process of buying all the major leagues in Europe.PSG,Malaga, City I dare say there are others that I don’t know of but do know that they have no Arab rivals in any country they have bought a team.It looks to me like some long term plan.
Kings – I’m not from London mate. Didn’t know you were at last nights game. Great send off for the ginger prince. Wouldn’t you know, he’d go and score? Lol. A belter in all!
Thanks Cedars, ditto. I always find myself agreeing with your posts, as well. Balaji, don’t get me wrong, I’ll behave like a 12 year old girl IF we sign him. But until then no point in wasting any time or effort on it.
Balaji – I didn’t know you were a 12 year old girl.
Willie
It was always obvious mate, especially when he announced his crush on Jones
Neil – Cheers
@parryheid, Conspiracy Theories???
Anyways, regarding FFP, I would be surprised if City got out of it that easily. But Barcelona and Real Madrid will find loopholes for sure. It is pretty common knowledge that it has been introduced to stop the rise of British football to global dominance – Something that may have already happened according to many people. It will be interesting to see how this hurts that dominance.
Bore off swede you wum. Have you nowt better to do?
Slim. Hhmm. Wouldn’t get too excited about Lukaku mate. There was a belgian journalist on wireless a few week back saying he is actually VERY over rated and in no way ready for the prem.
The Fly. Thanks a lot mate appreciate that. I just speak as I find. When I saw first comment I thought you were gonna say get my own blog as I boring or summat!!
FFP is a bag of Shit, now PSG have got backing that short arse knob head Platini will quietly back down.
Oh and evening Reds, just spent the last half hour trying to catch up. Anyone would think the new season is upon us…
Wellbeck had a presence about him last night, felt more like a senior player. Can’t wait to see the Da Silva brothers, Jones and Smalling line up together, those 4 in one of those matches where the opposition in camping out in the six yard box will be like a second attack wave, real confidence on the ball best back up we’ve had.
I’m still giddy about last night obviously.
smartalex – Thanks mate. They should let me off if I tell them that I was under strict orders from members of R.O.M (King Eric) to attack at will!
willierednut – I didn’t think you was mate, still I thought I would mention it though. Yeah a mate of mine texted me and said he had tickets, so I went. Yeah a fantastic send off for the great man. Thoroughly deserving of a great night.
Suddenly the Charity Shield means something.
City are welcome to Sneijder if he wants to go there.
Kings
Feel free to mention my name as well buddy, that’s guaranteed to give you a free night’s stay at the Dorchester
Hope you have a blast tomorrow my friend
How many strikers do Chelsea want? Lot of money they’ve spent on the lad.
Swede, I think I get what you are saying about Paul Pogba and Pat Vieira. Viera was a handful on the pitch, even at the testimonial, his passing and composure showed up for the quality player he is. Proabably didn’t deserve half the boos he got last night, but then, I wouldn’t discount the other half of the boos. Rightly should praise the man for honoring Paul Scholes, but he is a bitter now. Former gunner now a blue mercenary, can’t get more much more on your plate to rile the average Red. But I assume you were hoping that Pogba turns into half the player Viera was. In that we could agree to a point. Roy Keane mostly had Viera in his back pocket.
Sneijder to city rumours are gathering pace.if he ends up there,i will be crushed.it will hurt s bad and i know fergie will close the chequebook.why are we slacking?!
T4M
Do try and be less fickle, not good for your health
Kings – You’re going tomorrow as well? Lucky bugger lol. Yeah, give some of those blue noses, a slap round the head! That’s if any of them turn up. Can’t even sell all their allocation. Deluded pricks!
CedarsDevil – Hello my friend. Thanks buddy. Yeah of course I will mention your name. Dorchester eh? Nice one. Will I get free use of the mini bar as well?
the latest reprts have gotten me seriously nervous.we are desperate for a midfield maestro.
willierednut – Yeah I’m well chuffed mate. Oh absolutely, fuck all will turn up. Bottling cunts.
Kings
Free mini bar goes without saying, after all you will have a lot to celebrate….Been informed that 2 hot chicks dressed in leather with whips come free with the room as well! RoM expects a detailed report later
Will Scott even be able to post a new topic for the match tomorrow? I was surprised he got one up today itself.
Anyways, I would like to stop discussing transfers and start discussing the ass-whooping of a lifetime that awaits City tomorrow. Here’s my line up and I know I am always wrong, but what the hell.
De Gea
Fabio-Rio-Vidic-Evra
Nani-Anderson-Cleverley-Young
Berbatov-Rooney
Bench: Lindegaard, Rafael, Welbeck, Fletcher, Owen, Jones, Smalling (Dunno the exact no. of subs)
Re Fletcher, I am not sure. He seemed fit enough in today’s open training session, but I don’t think he will quite start tomorrow yet. Anderson and Cleverley have consistently impressed during pre-season and they deserve their chance to shine in the curtain-raiser against our bitter rivals.
I am interested to see whether Rooney and Berbatov can get their partnership going. Because if that clicks like it has in certain moments in recent matches, then I would guess a number of PL clubs will need to prepare for a rout.
@willie and Cedars, Ahh, the plot thickens.
Neil. Hello mate. My name is Neil by the way! Top post at 7 43. Bang on.
T4M
What reports? Now I am nervous as well, shaking as I type… Was it about the economy? Global warming? Situation in the Middle East? What, for fucks sake WHAT?
Did someone say Middle East? Don’t worry, I’ve got it all under control here.
@willierednut
you could say the same about us mate lol, earlier on today it was whether diouf should stay on or kiko. Looks like AVB and chelsea are going for 5 strikers. We’ve got 8 and no idea what to do with them. I’m sure a couple will get loan moves before the end of transfer window
Fatboy – yes, Welbeck is on another level at the moment. That loan spell made him a different player. It’ll be tough to get minutes with so many strike options but he’s going to be a great one. The future is truly bright.
Hiya Kings and King Eric. I hope we smash those bitter cunts tomorrow and take them down a few notches. They better pray that they win tomorrow because I don’t think they’ll win any trophies this year. I think they’ll hit a rough patch and implode and finish outside of the top 4 and Mancini will get sacked. They’re looking at this like it’s a final, and you know they’ll be filling up the tattoo parlors to get commemorative tattoos if they win and will probably hold a parade. I’m going to enjoy watching them fail this season
Twitter bollox gathering momentum on wee Wes to city!
Deary me…
Kings – If any reds get nicked you can use my name. CID will issue full pardons in exchange for the cypher ‘smartalex says: city are revolting’
Balaji Silvaraman.
Maybe but I am naturally suspicious when people of unimaginable wealth target a minor team in separate countries and pour cash in to them.When you consider the multi billionaire that is Abramovich is by comparison a pauper it makes me think that in the not to distant future even he will throw in the towel as he realizes he cannot compete and has lost his advantage.Perhaps the FFP regulations are to prevent a culture taking over rather than a country.But then again maybe not.
CedarsDevil – Bloody marvellous. I was hoping to take some scum back to the room, but if they cum free with the room, even better. Will they have a bald peach or is it full of curly clock springs? I’m a man who is partial to a bit of diving, but as I am rather stubbly I don’t want to suffer the velcro effect! I will provide the full analysis for RoM on completion of mission.
Balaji, are you looking after the Middle East? I thought you were handling Middle Earth.
slim – You could say that mate lol. It’s a gamble, Chelsea paying that sort of money. What it means for someone like Anelka? He could be out the door, or maybe even Drogba? What age is he now, 33? Surely after paying 50 million for the lady boy, they have to give him a chance to fill his boots this season. They’re still looking to sign Modric. Maybe they’ll use Drogba, or Anelka, as bait for Modric?
Kings
Hahahaha….Had in me tears with that post. We will look forward to the report
My logic is if someone chooses to go to Citeh, they are probably a money grabbing fucktard that will be “home sick” in a season.
I know Money is a good motivator, but how could you go to a club that dumps players like they do? or forces them to halt their career. What a pit of a small time club.
Just watching open training and to me its quite obvious Fletch has bulked up. He looks in decent shape. His shoulders and upperbody look bigger and his face is fuller. Good to see him back. A big player for United.
willierednut
oh drogba is well on his way out, but i doubt they’ll take that gamble this season, maybe next. and anelka too, he’s in his 30′s, so i guess fair play to them getting the boy in. they have ladyboy and stutter as well
That’s great news about Fletch, King Eric. He’s a key player for us.
Neil – Hello mate. Hope you are well. Yeah same here friend. Fucking small time cunts. I hate everything about them. The Manager is a fucking arrogant cunt. Balotelli is scum bastard. The supporters are fucking sad cunts, nicking other clubs celebrations and passing it off as their own. Oh and those tattoos mate, fucking idiots the lot of them. This is their cup final this season, and like you say mate, they will implode and that fucking wanker Mancini will get the boot. They’ll probably parade the Bernstein Cup and the Dublin Cup before the game tomorrow in a pathetic attempt to make a statement. Let’s give them a beating tomorrow.
smartalex, In fact, I am handling Middle East, Middle Earth and Hogwarts. That’s what keeps me busy during the summer.
willie, Many believe that signing Modric is the key to unlocking the full extent of Torres’ powers. They are hoping that Modric/Torres will be like Gerrard/Torres was at Liverpool. I think Modric will happen eventually like Berbatov. Spurs are just holding Chelsea to ransom like they did with us. Player wants to go, Spurs could use the cash, Chelsea have the cash and want said player – it is all simple math really. Modric will make Chelsea stronger. He would prove a rather useful player to them like Deco did. But up top, they still cannot work out the most effective partnership out of Torres, Drogba and Anelka. In fact, the best of that trio has always been Anelka/Drogba who have complemented each other, but needless to say, that is never going to happen.
in all of these twitter rumours, find an actual quote. look for a source. then discover these cannot be found, because this sneijder to city thing is complete bollocks.
In Bebe’s absence, Fletcher is eating Ando’s food.
@Kings
You’re right, if they win the Community shield it’ll be an open top tour round Stockport!
smartalex – Thanks my friend. I will print that post off and provide it as evidence of my connections to you.
Might have missed it, but what was in the folio that Gill handed to Scholes at the start of the testimonial?
He opened it a tad and there were clearly some gloves inside. Bit odd. Sure it something nice.
Twisted Fatboy – Hello mate. Yeah sad pathetic cunts.
@ Fletch THEMAN
It was a book of sketches by some artist, I’m not cultured enough to know who!
Can’t we just make Rooney play in Midfield? reduces the forwards by one, Scholes is on the coaching staff he can show him how to tackle.
FletchTHEMAN:
The dossier with “TOP SECRET” written on it? Ah, that was just the nuclear codes… Or the notorious Barca Protocol.
King Eric – Ha! Guess that’s why we’re on the same wavelength! I’m glad you didn’t use “Neil” as your handle because I’d be forced to come up with something and I’m not the most creative person out there. Now if you’re also 36 the coincidences would start to worry me haha
Sneijder staying with Inter, because United and city can’t afford his wages? Is that the big news? Even wee city baulking at his demands lol. Cedars, you win this one. We’ll be back though!
Macheda and Diouf will go on loan again I reckon. Cannot see these two getting much opportunity with the other five we have including Wellbeck.
Willie. Hello mate. How much have Chelsea paid for Lukaku?
I don’t believe a fucking word of twatter. You just have to remember all the absolute nonsense we have been hearing the last two months!
Smartalex. Evening mate. Yeah fantastic news.
Was there anything to this 9 oclock press conference thingy I realise Im on the button and showing sod all signs f anticipation or giggling like a fekkin little girl. So come on wheres he at?
What a load of shit that 9pm statement was. One quote used from last week and didn’t say anything of any importance! Fuvking nob head journo!
Excellent Trailer – Manchester United vs Manchester City (Community Shield 2011)
2 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwut4D-1ES8
Fletch is massive for us. When he did play last year he wasn’t the same, maybe the illness was there long before it was well known. If he’s bulked up that great. That is something I think he needed to do. All these ‘defensive’ midfielders nowadays are built like a brick shit house so Fletch needed to do something about that.
Let’s all hope he plays like he did 08/09 and 09/10. Our enforcer, made sure no fucker was getting past him. Never stopped running for the 90 minutes. Not scared either, if some prick got in his face over a heavy challenge he’d tell the bastard what he thought of him. Fletcher really could be huge this year.
Still feel he could take the captaincy in a couple years.
BREAKING NEWS!
Liverpool won a friendly game.
Sneijder the cunt, earning money so obscene that even City think it’s insane.
Dickhead Moratti gave the stocky cunt too much money, now he’s stuck with him. Fuck off Wee Wes, you little prick.
NFT.
OK, OK, this is the one. Seriously. 5 minutes.
Excellent Trailer – Manchester United | CHAMP19NS / BEL20VE | 2011- 2012 | HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iQ-IBGbxRQ&feature=related
King Eric – 18 million, I think? Don’t know much about the lad tbh. Very similar to Drogba, in stature.
BTW, for those of you who celebrate it, a very Happy Friendship Day to all my Red friends on ROM.
I have made many great friendships on this wonderful blog and hope to make countless more as we get to share our common love for this greatest of all clubs.
Good Night Lads!
The “Barca Protocol” then.
The Summer of wee Wes will soon be orr. Turn your sites on the Season of the Reds Mates!
Second place for Bitters? Ha ha aha aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhaahahahahahahaha!
Oh my. What a piss take!
Costas – Lol. I watched it mate. They’re gonna win the treble now, apparently.
Watch the video I linked at 21:08.
Goodnight Balaji.
Was that it and is it official is Sneijder staying at Inter? Anyone link to whatever news there is.
Cant wait for the match tommorrow this off season has been fucking garbage. Nothing bloody happened in the world except a few fekkin halfwits lining the meditaranean decided to stay out in the sun too long and went feekin loopy. Is it me or is it all getting way too fucking boring nowadays.
“willierednut says:
King Eric – 18 million, I think? Don’t know much about the lad tbh. Very similar to Drogba, in stature.”
Go to this side and you’ll find plenty of lads with the same stature as Drogba its uncanny
http://www.brazilian-trannies-go-wild.cum
Oh Wesley where art thou?
smartalex. Class that.
Oi… MR The Fly
Where is this press conference???
lol
Goat – no, not official, but I love a good knee jerk.
Here’s the article: http://www.thenational.ae/featured-content/channel-page/sport/middle-teasers-list/wesley-sneijders-england-move-unlikely
Goat – Lol. Not fucking likely!
FletchTHEMAN. Excellent video that.
A great way to remind a bit of last season, and an appetizer for the next!
Fuck Wes, lets sign Barton!
I never said press conference. It was meant to be some kind of announcement. Apparently that announcement was some dickhead journo telling us literally fuck all. Although everyone was saying that Inter would go public that they’ve accepted the United offer. I too was sure this was what would happen. Clearly not, or not yet. But after Sneijder’s actions after the Super Coppa today, there is zero chance he wants to stay there. It was a very public and petulant display showing that he wanted the move.
Cheers willie.
Neil. Ha. I am indeed thirty six. Twenty fourth of November 74.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12874_7085519,00.html?
Permanent deal for Obertan.
Im teasing! :_)
More preseason vids coming down.
Here is a good one, less professional than smartalexs link, but good music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSsvw4Z2MeE
Keep em coming lads!
Another day, another win for the Optimus Cs.
A bit weird this Obertan situation. First of, why sell him straight away? We should have sent him on loan just to check out his progress. Secondly, Newcastle must be really impressed with him if they are going to offer a 5 year deal.
The Fly
Press conference I just put that in because I didnt know what to call it. Just some sad arse journo hopping that Sneijder would say something now the Italian super cup was over and trying to pretend he had a scoop before the game when realisticly he had sod all.
Trade descriptions people really should do something about the british NEWS industry
Be careful what you say on here fellas willierednuts missus is leaning over his shoulder and looking at everything he clicks on, lol.
What did Sneijder do after the game?
Obertan should be kept.
Kept where?
Took a bit to dig up again, but this is the trailer for the Premier League. Has some good United moments from last year, as is only fitting. Think this has been around for about 2 months.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CC6TqvXjpU
When we signed Gabriel Obertan, it was a surprise,out of the blue.
We then read reports on how good he was ,one of the top talents from french football BUT then seemed to have dimmed a bit.
His parent club loaned him out.
Laurent Blanc said he was surprised we signed him , cos he was talented but psychology wise he needed to strengthen.
When he came to us, our medical team found out he had a back injury that his parent and loan club doctors had failed to spot. After we fixed him, he started to show us what he cud do but the end product was not there yet.
Had great hopes for him . Then he said after the west ham carling cup debacle, on how he is recovering faster and preparing for the next game. Before he wud be down for a longer time.
I said Fergie wil decide on all careers this season ended and we see how huge the changes are.
If u look at our reserves , only Danny Drinkwater,Matty James,Oliver Norwood,Reese Brown and Ben Amos have survived.
The First team u are all aware of. I believe Wellbeck and Tom have shown they r ready.
Diouf and Macheda ,not sure ,they need to improve a lot more.
Welbeck can play on both wings as well , so it seems Obertan has to leave.
Wished the kid stayed and made it but IF this stories are true then good luck,thank you and always keep Manchester United Safe.
I’m wondering if Obertan caught the SquarePeg/RoundHole virus from Berbatov.
Hello Dave Malaysia! Good comment buddy. So that’s all we’re left with in the reserves.
Anyone else watched the new power force Brighton and their first proper game at the new arena they now have?
Yes, in a few years I believe they will be the power force on the south coast and I got the feeling after the game I had watched the start of a new success chapter in the history of football.
Welbeck in final squad for England v Holland next Wednesday.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14433667.stm
After the game instead of going up to collect his runners-up medal he went straight off the pitch. Made sure the cameras saw him too. Petulant and immature? Yes, but at least he’s not interested in second best.
This is the link for ^ Welbeck in final England squad, sorry.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2023280/England-boss-Fabio-Capello-names-squad-Holland-clash.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
http://www.crunchsports.com/category/Soccer/Inter-Milan-to-consider-Wesley-Sneijder-Manchester-United-deal-next-week-201108060081/
The plot thickens…
@smartalex: tq. yes ,its interesting, the academy players being promoted to the reserves.
a new reserve side being built.
Joshua King ,Petrucci made a headstart by moving in ,January.
Now Pogba,Morrision,Tunni are in. Tunni straight out on loan.
Joshua is in German on loan.
The next Generation in the making.
I am sorry to say this but only Amos is doing well, the other four dont seem to be progressing.
Time will tell.
welbeck should start for england
Maybe Obertan is peg square, in a hole round?
kiss of death. I like it when they put us down
the trouble with obertan is he’s a hole square in a peg round
Is square Obertan peg round in a hole maybe?
The commentators for the Barcelona game I’m watching just predicted Chelsea and, wait for it, West Bromwich Albion?
Is Obertans round hole pegged maybe square?
Or a round Obertan with a peg leg
Watching Orbetan play felt like passing a square peg out my round hole!!
West Brom have got Ben Foster in goal. They are already champions.
For all your Sneijder needs. This guy is the one everyone goes to to find out any updates. Now they’re all saying medical on tuesday. Read it and see for yourself. (You don’t actually need a twitter account to load the page).
http://twitter.com/#!/1andOnlyWalshy
Has Obertan got a peg leg?
how you getting on Goat you old perv….
no Obertans got a pegged round hole
Yawn.
As for Obi, I will miss his head. Haven’t seen another head shaped like his.
Ubertanker runs aground. Captain square-peg missing with a whole-lot -a-maybe.
He’s got a club foot.
Kojack remake!
Gabriel Balderdash?
I and I build a cabin
I and I plant the corn
Didn’t my people before me
Slave for this country
Now you look me with a scorn
Then you eat up all my corn
We gonna chase those crazy baldheads
Chase them crazy
Chase those crazy baldheads out of town
I think we’ll see more transfer activity in and out the club in the future. I say this because of the age restrictions placed on the 25 man squad. Obertan would have to be named and his place is better off going to someone else.
I thought he did well in pre season but the final nail in the coffin was the Barca game. That was his opportunity to impress and he let it slip. Couldn’t keep hold of the ball or pass it. Just got it and ran and he wasn’t sure where he was going. Final ball is poor too. If he can’t do it in a friendly game vs Barcas 2nd string he’s not good enough for United.
A loan deal would have been ideal but he clearly hasn’t developed a tremendous amount from last season and the player wants to play football may as well sell him. As long as get back what we paid I’m not too disappointed. Watch the same thing happen to Bebe next season.
How much are we getting for Obertan-kenobi?
Kinda sad he’s leaving us
Also, does anybody know what’s going on with GIBSON? are we waiting to see if we get Sneijder-man in order to decide weather we sell him or not?
Can’t wait for september 1st
How much are we getting for Obertan-kenobi?
Kinda sad he’s leaving us
Also, does anybody know what’s going on with GIBSON? are we waiting to see if we get Sneijder-man in order to decide weather we sell him or not?
Can’t wait for september 1st
Wait….double trouble again? WTF!
WE GOT A GAME TOMORROW!!!!!! Get in there….the sheild is ours
King Eric – Fucking hell, Nov 7, 1974 myself. Doppleganger alert haha
Word in some quarters was that Obertan put in a transfer request last year but was made to stay because of the Valencia injury. He apparently put in another request this summer. Kid wants our, let him go. We have some great prospects coming through and the timing hasn’t been right for Obertan.
*kid wants out*
Devil310 Word is that NCU will pay 3M. About what we paid for him as I recall.
Obertan and Ben Arfa on the wings? Not bad for the Toon.
Interesting point about the 25 man squad. As things stand now:
Senior squad:
1) Evra
Park
2) Ferdinand
3) Owen
4) Anderson
5) Rooney
6) Giggs
7) Smalling
9) Chicharito
10) Vidic
11) Carrick
12) Nani
13) Welbeck
14) Fabio
15) Rafael
16) Evans
17) Fletcher
18) Valencia
19) Gibson
20) Kuszczak
21) Diouf
22) Lindegaard
23) Cleverley
24) Amos
25) De Gea
26) Berbatov
27) Ashley Young
Under 21s:
Norwood
Jones
Macheda
Morrison
Pogba
—————————————————–
Didn’t include Obertan since he’s on his way out. Looks like we’ll have to let 2 of the senior players go. And if we want to make one more transfer, that’s 3 players.
Tottenham has went crazy!
Maybe word has come through, Modric is gonna be a RentBoy?
“I’m happy with the situation, I’m not going to complain about it,” the United manager says. “Some clubs would love to have seven strikers. There is a difficulty in terms of managing the situation in the sense of the number of games they can get but I’ve got all those players and I plan to keep them and get on with it.
“I expect them all to be here at the end of the transfer window, we’ll compensate those that can’t play by making sure they train well. You might get an injury down the road, you never know. At the moment I’ve no intention of changing.”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/06/manchester-united-community-shield-wembley
Righto, could be good for NCU and more playing time is what Gabbie needs.
Might be hoping for a shot at France senior squad. Lad has serious talent and has had games for france at every age group. Won’t get a sniff at the senior squad unless he is a regular. Good luck to him. Good luck to all our boys who left us. They are calling it the french revolution for Toon. More like it here at United, OFF WITH THEIR heads!!! Still missing Wes and O’Shea! What is up with Gibbo and PIG!?
We have always had a good nucleus of young players at the club. We’ve always been that way but there was a period about five years ago when I had a rethink about how we develop the club when young players came back into my mind. The younger you get them and the more work you do then, the longer they will be with you.”
“Tom Cleverley and Danny Welbeck gained important experience of playing in the Premier League with other clubs on loan last season,” he says. “Cleverley in particular played a lot of games [at Wigan], Welbeck would have played more [for Sunderland] but for a couple of injuries. They have come back challenging for first-team places here and this season I think they will. I don’t have any worries at all about them needing time to settle back in. Welbeck has been with us since he was eight. Cleverley joined us at 13. They have already been at the club a long, long time. They have grown up and been educated here.
“Generally speaking it is transfer purchases who sometimes take time to settle in. Nemanja Vidic and Patrice Evra, for example, did not integrate immediately, though we did sign them in January which can sometimes be a problem. It is not always easy to switch countries and leagues in the middle of a season.”
Well done daily mail: article on Welbeck, picture of Diouf
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2023027/Manchester-Uniteds-Danny-Welbeck-lauded-Sunderland-boss-Steve-Bruce.html
Fergie has a weird sense of humor, lol. He’s keeping 7 strikers around in case there’s an injury, yet we are down to 3 full backs in defence. I guess no one will get injured there.
^ from same Sir Alex interview.
@Costas
I would put my money on Gibson, Kusz and Diouf
costas,
Think Smalling, Welbeck and De Gae are all considered U21 as well.
‘City are making their first appearance in the Community Shield since losing to Burnley in 1973, an event so far back in time it predates the now accepted customs of league champions playing FA Cup winners and the game automatically being staged at Wembley.’
Thanks Fletch….sounds a bit of a bargain considering we have improve him. But I’m use to us letting players go on a cheap
Didn’t realise we were 2 players over after discounting Obertan. Cheers for that post Costas.
Think we can count PIG out, Gibson is probably likely to be the other person to be offloaded in order to trim the squad. The fact he’s said he’s keeping the 7 strikers and 6 of them count as players in the 25. It will be interesting to see who moves if he does bring someone else. I can’t see who he can leave out. I thought De Gea and Amos were both Under 21 and didn’t count forgot what the rules are.
I expect them all to be here? Not sure about that one.
Balaji @ 18:59: ” almost all of the top-tier clubs in Europe including Barcelona and Real Madrid will have to re-think their spending business. There are only two clubs immune to that and only one of them is successful enough to keep up with the rules.”
I call this “Glazernomics” – the hard-and-fast rule that wages are not allowed to exceed 50% of revenues. It’s one of the main reasons why UTD’s transfers have almost always been low-key – not aiming for the sky but finding young talent and nurturing it in the club-atmosphere. It doesn’t prevent mercenaries but it does make sure that such guys are weeded out, sold on, and replaced.
The “fair play” rules will be broken unless Platini and his mob are serious about enforcing them. We’ve already seen ManShitty’s end-run by using their owners’ connections to gather “sponsors”. I’d suggest that a crack-down on that sort of transparent tomfoolery would go a long way to warning the rest of the elite teams. And, as well, the imminent financial meltdown in both Spain and Italy will mean that interest-free loans get weeded out pretty quickly, too.
Don’t think Gibbo or PIG were at the open training. Been watching it and I didn’t see them anyway.
Willie. Why what have Spurs done?
Also from the Guardian. G Nev to offer Sky views are breath of fresh air!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2011/aug/06/gary-neville-sky
Common G Nev!!!
@Fletch
Unless the rules from last season have changed, you have to be under 21 at the turn of the year (or born in 91 and beyond) to be considered a U21. Welbeck and De Gea will turn 21 in the fall and Smalling is already there. I think that’s why the twins are now also part of the senior squad.
@the scottish wonder
I was thinking the same actually. PIG and Diouf and in case a midfielder is signed, Gibson will probably be the 3rd guy out.
King Eric – Rioting mate. Two cop cars burned out.
TonyBee
Alright Tony mate. I wasnt ignoring you just had a power out here due to a big thunder storm. It gave me a chance to stand at the front window and enjoy the spectacle with trollies round ankles beating off the the cars whizzing by. Its weather voyeur you know. The new big thing. thunderstorms give me the horn along with, midgets, pizza, pesto, rupert the bear hubcaps and danger mouses letter box.
Hows you?
The squad rules from last season:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1308145/Manchester-United-25-man-Premier-League-squad-2010-11.html
The only thing I am not sure about is if they made any changes.
@Notorious
You are welcome. Amos and De Gear are turning 21 this year, so they are promoted to the senior squad, just like the twins and Welbeck. In case we don’t buy another midfielder, I think it would make more sense for Gibson to stay and one of the strikers to go out on loan or something. We don’t have as many choices in midfield as we don in attack.
Age rule seems to me simple enough, 25 man team does not need to include any one under 21 buy Jan 2011.
“The new rule says each club will have to name their 25-man squad by September 1 – the day after the summer transfer window shuts. Eight have to be ‘home grown’, meaning they must have spent at least three years training with an English or Welsh professional club before they reached the age of 21.
After that the only players not on that list who can play will be any under the age of 21 on January 1, 2010.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1297855/New-25-man-Premier-League-squad-rule-big-earners-sitting-out.html#ixzz1UI3wOGWt
There is no way Fergie is gonna keep seven strikers. I would be very surprised if he meant that statement.
Has Phil Jones got highlights? Come on Phil lad sort the barnet out.
No Nasri for Arsenal tonight I believe. One nil up and threw it away. That’s two cups they have failed in the last two week. They were shit. They just seem to be going through the motions. Bound to be pissed off with all their best players wanting to leave. Wenger looks a shadow. Could be a tricky season for Arsenal.
willierednut says:
Obertan and Ben Arfa on the wings? Not bad for the Toon.
Ben Arfa whos that, i know of a Jay Arfa, he come along with his five lovely deciples just before Harry Munk arrives to great fanfare. Ben Arfa is that a reach around?
Cheers FletchTheMan. So that means Amos Welbeck and De Gea are safe. Got loads of room in the squad to sign someone else. Gibbo may stay but PIG is off.
The rule list that I saw said 21 at the start of the year. but maybe I am reading it funny..
Another feature of the rule that will hit teams like the chaves…
No more than 17 players can be over the age of 21 and not home-grown.
Willie. Cheers. Sorry for the questions mate but where at. Who were they playing ?
Yeah, that’s where I got mixed up it seems. You have to be either 21 or under 21 by the 2012. That actually means that everyone born during 1990 or beyond is considered a U21.
So our actual squad is something like this:
Senior squad:
1) Evra
Park
2) Ferdinand
3) Owen
4) Anderson
5) Rooney
6) Giggs
7) Smalling
9) Chicharito
10) Vidic
11) Carrick
12) Nani
13) Evans
14) Fletcher
15) Valencia
16) Gibson
17) Kuszczak
18) Diouf
19) Lindegaard
20) Cleverley
21) Berbatov
22) Ashley Young
Under 21s:
Rafael
Fabio
Welbeck
De Gea
Amos
Norwood
Jones
Macheda
Morrison
—————————————–
My apologies. So there’s room for new players.
That’s OK Costas, your stats hadn’t sunk in yet, so no harm done.
Two to come.
Costas, so it looks like we both had some errors.
Under 21 for 2011-12 are born on or after 1st January 1990.
So that includes De Gae as U21 but not Smalling and Cleaverly who were born in 89.
King Eric – No mate, there’s rioting in Tottenham itself. Nothing to do with football.
Did you know. The word MASSIVE in the dictionary has Man City written next to it
Costas, Sorry I didn’t refresh. Cheers
That list looks better. In any event, my point was that we still have plenty of room on the 25 man list this year. Recall that we left Hargo off last year because we didn’t, but we have freed up a number of spots with the clearout of 8 senior players. Still may see PIG, Gibbo, off as well.
So you do live dann saff.
The Fly, You are a cruel little man. But funny as sin!
Must have an ulsterior motive.
@FletchTHEMAN
What can I say mate? I always get confused by these rules. I thought under 21s actually meant under 21s, lol. The good thing is that the twins and Welbeck are also still part of the “junior” squad. Like you said, Smalling and Cleverley are the two players that made the jump to the senior squad this season.
@smartalex
I feel bad everytime I get them wrong.
If Kuszczak leaves, then there’s room for up to 2 new players. Sneijder, Modric, Nasri and Heskey. 
No one does it better than us. Pussies, down south!
@King Eric & willierednut
A police officer shot one of them Tottenham bad boys in the head and he died, so that’s why their’s riots if you didn’t know, cars being lit on fire, looting, shops being lit on fire, people we’re throwing petrol bombs at police cars and that.
*4 new players*
A new Man City Oxo cube is about to be introduced. It’ll be called “laughing stock”.
Massive dictionary?
Dre – Some crazy shit.
fucking hell whats going on, people carrying guns and getting shot. Fuck me
Costas. Ha ha ha, to right you are mate.
There seems to be to difficult sets of rules.
First is the difficult enough rules of english usage,
Then you have the stunning ways the FA can twist them which would loose the most sophisticated Oxford Don!
*two difficult sets*
willierednut
I hear that, i’m watching it on sky news now, looks like no problems nowadays cant be solved without violence.
Phil, Jones, never a doubt, He’s the one that will keep them out.
Come on, We talking to you, come on.
Phil, Jones, never a doubt, He’s the one that will keep them out.
@The Fly if WS signs for utd the last thing i need out of you is i told you so,according to ‘the source’ it should’ve been annonoced i believe july 15th and you said it was a fact.It didn’t happen so clearly you know as much as anyone else,nothing.
The Fly has spun into the sneijder’s web.
It’s the Fly and the Sneijder, it’s the thrill of ‘He might’
Rising up to the question of arrival
And the last known tipster stalks his prey in the night
And wayne’s watching him fall, as the Fly lost Wes Sneijder.
Trouble is, if you talk something up too often, you can become hoarse Fly.
And a horse fly could take you for a ride. Square pegasus in a round about way.
Word association football.
i’d like to tip my hat to mr willierednut the pun artist & smartalex who makes me re read everything he posts
Willie and Dre. Cheers lads. Its the eighties all over again.
Cheers wayne! How you doing bud? You’re not driving are you, being the weekend?
Back to the football tomorrow. Last of the pre-season games.
Wayne – Cheers pal.
So here we fucking go again – Ando’s great/Ando’s immature/TC is great/TC is immature/Sneider is “world class” yet has seen 4 teams in 6 years (makes 250K quid a week) – played 5 great games in that period -dead consistent (not) – (yeah SAF is after this lad for sure) -he’s selling his wife as part of the fucking deal – she does have a better rack than Victoria though) Alex will go for that one!!!
Ganso next Scholes – he’s fucking 16 (not Scholes that is – Ganso). More really intelligent fucking “Platonic” thinking from the “journo’s” and “ooh this guys had one or two great games per year brigade” and is the next “Best”- maybe 8 years from now but fuck me today!!
Many on this site underestimates that SAF does have a more bit more knowledge about his team (YES HIS TEAM) than anyone that writes in to this site – more knowledge about succession planning, about player skills/player physcholgy/about player chemistry / about dressing room issues etc in other words if you do not trust SAF then, to me, you are not a United fan – he knew Scholes was going this year five years back and 90% of the planet reckons it is now panic time cos there is no apparent Scholes succesor -fuck , Scholes was great and SAF knew how to play him and when to play him – same with Giggs. – is SAF worried on the future (obviously has to be cos 90% of the planet is telling him who he should buy – but for me, not a fucking chance cos he has planned for this day)- probably would have been nice to see Scholes play 20 games this year , but Scholes will not, cos he has retired – do not need to be Plato or Socrates to understand that SAF knows better than the whole planet what assets he has in his squad ‘ how and where the players can play”- and I would challenge anyone to argue that SAF has not reckoned for this day -he knows how to co-ordinate what he has to do to WIN. All planned well in advance of the “Day of Departure” – otherwise not SAF. (LOOK AT THE TROPHY CABINET)
I honestly believe he could tell you today who will be in that squad five years from now.
For fucks sake to say SAF does not have the replacement already in place, for any position, and set to rock and roll is like sayingv SAF runs with the choice of the day to “plug that most important player role” or he uses a gypsy woman and a crystal ball for team selection – so lets just drop in player “X” and he will just waltz into the team rythym. Let’ s give him half a season to “bed in”! Naive – this team is all about teamwork and more teamwork. It is usually pre planned and that there is always someone set to come in (most of the time – admittedly a few dodgy keepers and the occasional DD / Prunier etc but in the main seamless transition) – Jesus Christ, he has known who that player will be and where he will play for the past four seasons before that player steps into that role – never underestimate SAF – he does know his stuff. LOOK AT HIS FUCKING RECORD.
As for Sneider – how can people say we need this useless fucking tulip twat – (yeah scored a “goal of the century” free kick v Milan – but did you see the shit set up of the wall and did you see where the second rate keeper was -I could have hit it straight and would have scored ). Closest thing to Darren Anderton or Glenn Hoddle I have ever seen – massively overated. Plus definately not a team player and fuck all in the work ethic department. Inter have this boy on the books at 250GBP per week !! They are cash strapped – they are slow, mindless (even with “ooh Wes had one or two great games per year brigade” would not last 8 weeks in the Premier)
Anyway sort out the blue Bastards tomorrow and start off the season with some silverware
20/4/12 UNITED – 2012
Torontored. Wooaahh. Calm your skin down pal. There are plenty of us on here who javbe complete faith in Fergie and the players. Unfortunately some fucking cunts don’t and clamour for signings like that fucking ponce Pastore and Sanchez. To say sneijder is like Anderton is laughable mate.
*have*
WTF is STR up to? why the fuck is Harry Redknapp face plastered at the top of the page. I know he has to get advert placements and all but Harry. lol
Torontored – “if you do not trust SAF then, to me, you are not a United fan” DITTO!!! Couldn’t have said it better myself!
Willierednuts and Goat were earl;ier discussing……
Obertan and Ben Arfa on the wings? Not bad for the Toon.
Ben Arfa whos that, i know of a Jay Arfa, he come along with his five lovely deciples just before Harry Munk arrives to great fanfare. Ben Arfa is that a reach around?
guys ….think it might be Ben Dover and Phil McCrackin….
@wayne
Spot on.
After More comments then the number of players we’ve been linked with
After almost 3 months its Great to wake up knowing its MATCHDAY
Bring It On:-):-)
AUGUST 6, 2011 AT 23:27
GoatinaUnitedShirt says:
TonyBee
Alright Tony mate. I wasnt ignoring you just had a power out here due to a big thunder storm. It gave me a chance to stand at the front window and enjoy the spectacle with trollies round ankles beating off the the cars whizzing by. Its weather voyeur you know. The new big thing. thunderstorms give me the horn along with, midgets, pizza, pesto, rupert the bear hubcaps and danger mouses letter box.
Hows you?
tears coming down here…you is one crazy bastard. hahahaha…. weather perving…… ;lol:
me? too old… too tired….. bored out me skull…..wedding anniversary today 20 years SO WILL MISS THE LIVE GAME ….
told her if i had killed her instead of marrying her I would be getting out this year….
went down like fucking lead balloon….sigh….
there goes the anniversary lovefest then… sigh ….
Mrs Palm brace yourself….
Is Obertan staying or not
@toronto – agree with most of what you said, and you made pretty good points about people questioning the manager, but the Sneijder comments destroyed all the coherent and smart things you just said.
I know this is not the first time I hear you slamming the guy. But Its not that you simply dont rate him at all…you despise him for whatever reason (?) Saying he is overrated, wouldn’t last in the prem and comparing him to Darren Anderton/Glenn Hoddle is borderline moronic.
Wether we need him or not, thats a different story, but the guy is special and we would be lucky to have him. He has been praised by our very own G.Neville, King Cantona and, the master himself, Scholesy….their opinion most be worth something to any doubter (hater) like yourself.
“It’s easy to get emotional about this kind of game,” said Sir Alex. “But I don’t think we will be changing our policy. The Community Shield is a stepping-stone to the first game of the season.”
so SAF going to be indifferent whether we win or lose this game?
Costas @ 7:54
I second that comment
sorry to see him go
Rucien. No of course he isn’t. He wants to win EVERY game United play.
Why the fuck do those mugs at sky make out Obertan has been a complete flop despite only costing three million yet they say fuck all about that diving cunt Zhirkov who cost eighteen million who aside from diving to get a pen at the bridge has done absolutely fuck all. Can’t wait to see their near twenty million man Lukaku get found out as well. The Belgian league and the prem are two very different leauges. Love the way Viyash Boash is trying to be like Fergie by buying young talent. The smug prick will be out the door by jan so will never see these plaayers get a chance. They won’t anyway as it will be the same old same old shite. Terry fat frank drogba and so on. The russian won’t allow for kids to be intergrated as its all about the here and now for the rentboys. Much like City.
Good Morning Lads!
Scott is on vacation somewhere going by his twitter, so whether we get new topic for the curtain-raiser is anyone’s guess.
Costas, Interesting squad. Given the number of youngsters we have in our squad, I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t fill our regulation 25 at all. Kuszcak is still up for grabs – I will be surprised if he is still a United player on September 1st. The same goes for Diouf but I would very much like him to stay. I feel he maybe sent on loan for one more season. So, that is two slots that have been freed up. And we are looking at only one more over-21 addition and even that is doubtful. I think we will start without the mandatory 25 being filled. It doesn’t make a difference either way, I guess. Our trust in youth has always been well-placed, so no reason to change a working system.
Devil310, Spot on about Toronto. Just to make it clear: I don’t think anyone who actually wants Sneijder to play for us has ever come out and doubted Sir Alex. The people who have done it are the usual twats and trolls. Most of us who are part of the wee Wes clique do it for the laughs anyway. I am personally a big Sneijder fanboy and would like him to don our shirt. Either way, calling people who want Sneijder as those who think Sir Alex doesn’t know what he is doing is simply BS. Plus, comparing Sneijder to Anderton when The King believes the former to be the next “Him” is pure and simply a pisstake.
Morning Reds,
I’d rather have Schweinsteiger than Sneijder, we’d make more off the shirt lettering.
Plus have we ever had a German? Hargreaves doesn’t count.
@Cedars
Morning mate.
@Balaji
Morning. I don’t think the 25 slots will be filled either. No way we are going to keep Kus and Gibbo and sign 3 new players. But it’s not a horrible thing really. Chelsea had 19-20 players in their squad last year, but they had nothing in their U21 squad. We have 5 youngsters that will make the senior squad next year: the twins, Danny, Amos and De Gea.
Watch this video before the game – It will get you all pumped up!!
http://youtu.be/tsRSt5hI2sQ
Of course Anderton is comparable to Sneijder.
I’m often compared to Brad Pitt.
In my fucking dreams!
Could be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read on here.
And, there’s been a few corkers down the years.
I’m sure Kings will laugh his head off at this one lol.
WRD 19!
BradRedPitt is chalk, our willierednut is the cheese!
TorontoRed @ 1:59: “Ganso next Scholes – he’s fucking 16 (not Scholes that is – Ganso). ”
Errr, Ganso is actually 21/22. Neymar is 19. And Santos’ “next one” – called Lucas, I think – is 17/18.
Ok I had a few when I wrote that last night and it followed a late night Friday. My main point is that SAF plans for the future.
As for today saw a lot of very good performances and some mediocre performances – Nani/Anderson/Rooney/DW/TC very, very good. We went up a few gears after the half and I have to say that Ferdinand and Vidic (who I would have thought were certainties in their respective positions) will have to now up their games following the performances of Jones and Smalling – Evans played well but almost gave away the game with one poor pass. What impressed me was he did not let the one mistake affect his game going forward, last year he was prone to folding like a cheap suit after such a gaff. TC played way better than Carrick in the middle and DW will be challenging for a spot anywhere up front or in the middle
Will watch the replay again later but it did seem that we made hardly any direct tackles but simply crowded out the space and the option for them to make the pass. the number of times they dove in and the fact they left the field with 11 players was testament to a lenient ref. Richards/Kompany both could have seen red.
De Gea is still a question mark – looked nervous on goal #1 and flat footed goal # 2 – but just like Evans made up with a couple of good saves – what is for sure his weak points will be worked on and he will get better.
Bring on the start of the season
UNITED 20/4/12 – 2012
BTW my bias agaisnt Sneider is that I do not think he would help United – he is talented but we definately do not need a player who has to be played to and does not reciprocate in the work department. Today we saw 11 players all running for each other – in that department I see Sneider falling down. That is my bias agaisnt the man – to me he is lazy. he looks good when he is alloed time on the ball – lots of that Italy and many internationals but in the premier league.