The Sun is today claiming that Wes Brown’s future at United is hanging by a thread after a furious row with Sir Alex in the pre-season.
The United lads went out on the piss when on the tour of the States in the summer, something the manager approved. However, when they were getting a bit rowdy on the journey home, Sir Alex told them to keep the noise down.
Wes Brown, who’s probably still a little too Longsight for his own good, piped up with “Fuck off, you cunt!” in an attempt at humour. It’s the way you could talk to one of your mates with a grin on your face. It’s not the way you talk to Sir Alex Ferguson. But what he says in jest after a few beers shouldn’t define his United career.
And this is the incident The Sun is referring to.
Allegedly.
After that incident, the ever-accommodating Wes shied away from the press when in the States and was reluctant to give any interviews.
Does this tiff mean he will be out of the club? Well, Sir Alex wasn’t at all happy with Wes a couple of seasons back when he wouldn’t immediately sign a contract which totally undervalued him. Wes was our starting right-back that season and was being offered a worse salary than John O’Shea, which he rightly refused to sign. The manager blamed the fuss on Wes listening too much to his agent but in reality, he just isn’t a soft lad, and wasn’t going to have the piss taken out of him because he’s a ‘loyal’ player. But could the manager still be holding a grudge after this?
I have to say, I would be desperately disappointed if they couldn’t put this behind them. There’s no reason why Wes shouldn’t see out his playing days with the club. I would be gutted if he left, in January as it’s been rumoured, because he’s a proper red and plays with the dedication of a fan.
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What the fuck kind of thing is that to say to Sir Alex?
right now he is not the same brown we saw in the double winning season just a shadow of that….i wish he was the same…just another example how injuries can effect players
They just need something to write about during international break.
Im sure Sir Alex understood at the time that he didn’t mean what he said and it was a bit of a joke, especially given the alcohol involved. If they had really had such a big falling out, given that this was months ago, does anyone think Wes would be still at the club? Ask Jaap Stam.
Wes Brown, who’s probably still a little too much Longsight for his own good, lol. He’s lucky Sir Alex is an old man, back in the day, Wes would’ve got a Scottish kiss lmao.
I really hope it’s just a case of Fergie rotating his squad and keeping Wes fresh for later on. Ok, if Brown said that, then he was out of order. But in no way should it hamper his UNited career. Like Scott, I’d like to see him stay at United for the remainder of his career.
to be honest there hasn’t been many games so far, people like rafael have also hardly featured, so I think people are making a bit too much of this
After the whole phone tap thing the Sun, News of the World and any of the Murdoch mob can go fuck themselves with a chainsaw. I know that’s not strictly a football related reason to hate them but hate them I do. Does this mean the story isn’t true? Not necessarily, but I’d still take it with a pinch of salt, a big one.
The fact that he hasn’t even made the squad in most of the games kind of makes you suspicious. A while back people wondered if he made a move on Mrs Ferguson. This is the next worst thing, lol. Don’t think anything more will be revealed about this. But if Ferguson gave Ando a chance to win back his place, I am sure he will do the same for Wes.
The Wes Brown Chant is one of the best we have, nooooo
Much ado about nowt, Wes just needs to be selective in what type of language he uses around the younger players.
Storm in a tea cup me thinks
If Wes ever said that I am sure he would have sorted it out with the gaffer
it seems like everytime the boys are allowed to party some incident occurs,like everyone else i’d like to see wes finish his career at utd but sir alex is a hardass and has got rid of pretty well everyone who crossed him lets hope he has mellowed in old age otherwise if the story is true it could very well be bye bye wes
Sun – Written by idiots, for idiots.
Well done Cuntis..
Stupid mistake by Wes, but I can’t believe that it’ll mean the end for him at Old Trafford. I suspect his limited opportunities this season are more to do with fitness than a few shortsighted Longsight words. He’s had fitness problems almost all his career, and when he finally had a long, un-interupted spell in the team as in 2007-08 he showed just what a class act he can be. Who could forget his glorious cross for Ronaldo’s goal in Moscow? I hope Wes sees his days out at United, preferably with Reece alongside him. Perhaps he needs a gagging order.
IF Wes really did say that, then I think he owes SAF an apology…that language was inappropriate and disrespectful. I hope that everything has been sorted out and would like him to finish his career as a Red Devil. I’ve wondered though why he hasn’t been playing lately. These tabloids are only too happy to stir the pot.
BUT…
I miss the boys! And I miss my Berba! One long week before we get to see them again.
Really hope they sort it out. Wes is a red like Scott says
The media are having a field day at the minute what with all the negative United stories. Cunts. .
Amar – Is it one of the Custis’s that did this story? Hate the pair of them.
Neil Custis not a United fan? He’s one of the few that’s not banned from SAF press conferences.
mistake by Wes ? Yes, no doubt but no reason for showing him the door. I’m sure Sir Alex can be pain sometimes, but Wes should have been a bit more careful. IMO much ado about nothing
Seriously this is getting boring
Come back to us Manchester United your draws are forgiven we need you : )
We can’t live without you
Promise : )
i dunno about you guys but wes doesn’t seem like the wes of old(if that makes sense) for the past couple of seasons. the wes of old was solid at the back and fergie rightly describes him as the most natural defender. however after the injuries he had, he seems quite shaky tbh. loss of confidence?
Does anyone think its alright to say that to Sir Alex? Don’t care who the player is, he should be out the door.
Good job im not sir alex, because if brown had of said that to me the plane may well have been given emergency clearance to land and me being pulled out on terrorist charges. He would have tried to get so fucking far away from me that at the back of the plane he would of looked like the chocolate bit right at the bottom of a fucking cornetto.
Ive always liked wes, i like players who shut up and put up and do a good job. But to ever think Wes is comparable to G.Neville at RB or like Vidic or Rio in the centre is kidding themselves. He is old and maybe for him to move on isn’t that bad an idea. I don’t want him pushed out the door but just rather he could have some decent playing days as he is too much of a talent to rarely make it on the bench. Either way he should keep his head down.
Yes, Wes hasn’t been at his best lately but he hasn’t been playing regularly. I’m sure when he does he will gain back his old form. I like him a lot.
Willie – Think they are Geordies mate so probably Newcastle fans. One is better than the other and I cannot remember if its Neil or Shaun?
King Eric – I think Neil Custis is the better of the two. I do wonder who leaked the story, to the Sun.
I wonder if Wes would have ended up with a bloody nose if Gary Nev was anywhere near him when he said that…
@ king Eric
I presume it is written by Custis,The cunt has always managed to garner attention..
Talking about Custis (from the cafe) -
Fergie was about to start a press conference when he pointed at a journalist in the crowd and said ” haven’t I banned you Custis?” to which he replied “No ,that was my brother” so Fergie said ” Well your banned as well, there’s too many fucking Custis’ in this world..
@RedGem
Wes Brown doesn’t bleed. Fact.
@Doghouse..HAHAHAHAHA.. good one!
@Amar…is that story true?
@ RedGem
Must be true,He deserves it..
Thanks, Amar..and I agree, these vultures need to be put in their place.
Can’t believe brown said that lol must have taking some guts and a bit of drunkness, ah well i’m sure he’ll work his way back into the managers good books and doesn’t necessarily spell the end of wes at united.
I don’t think he’ll get regular games at right back at united though, its rafael’s position now the brazilian is far far more talented, maybe he can be a back up or fight with vida, rio, smalling, evans for his preferred centre half position, good luck doing that lol, brown will think twice before leaving united, redknapp would probably pick him or something but its downhill after that i’m afraid, i hope he doesn’t leave as he has being a terrific servant to the club.
At this rate, by next week the media will be focusing on whether the groundskeeper is having an affair with the tea lady at OT.
Leave us in peace for the next 7 days, We just want to enjoy the silence before the storm.
By the way good luck to Rio and Coatto on tuesday:)
I love Wes. In the past, Wes and Evans were the obvious back ups for Vida and Rio. Still would prefer to see Wes at LB than O’Shea. However, IF Smalling is the new plan to replace Rio, then he has to get games. Once you say that Smalling and Evans are above Brown in the pecking order for Centerback, then Browns value starts to slip considerably. Soooo, If we could get 8-10M for Wes I wouldn’t say it was bad business. I also loved Phil Neville and still smile when I see him play, whose to say we don’t see a bright side to this. Keeping him because he has a great song seems a bit of a stretch. But if this story is the crap I expect it is, I wouldn’t mind a couple more years of Wes Brown.
Dont think this is the end of him, at least I hope not…..especially with all the uncertainty at CB with Rio’s back problems and Evans a bit unsteady at the start of this season…I dont think Sir Alex will let him go, at least in January….but next season, who knows?
I still think he has a lot to give, both at CB and RB and I think he’s better than John O Shea in both those positions….thats not to say that O’Shea is shabby or anything, but I believe Wes is better.
@ Giles Oakley
Nice to hear from you again Sir,
How’s the treatment coming along…hope all’s well
Roll on the next match what a fuckin boring weekend…
Hi Red Devil, thanks for asking about my health, and all the others who ask from time to time, which is much apprecieted. (For those who don’t know, I have advanced prostate cancer. At intervals I like to dish out warnings/ advice on the subject, so as I haven’t done so for a while I’ll remind all you males, if you find yourself pissing a lot , especially at night, go see your GP and have it checked out pronto. A simple blood test willl reveal if you need more investigation) So, to answer your question, the treatment is working well and my consultant is really pleased, cheerfully pointing out that if it wasn’t working I would ‘now already be in VERY, VERY serious trouble…’ I’ve had radio therapy and have been on longterm hormone therapy which has at least stopped the spread of the cancer. I’ll only know in 18 moonths if the cancer is merely dormant or eradicated when I come off the hormones. Meanwhile the side effects of the treatment aren’t exactly a barrel of laughs, which is why I haven’t been contributing as often as I’d like to this site. I’ve just come through a very rough patch, necessitating a whole load of scans, x-rays and endoscopies, for fear that a new cancer had started. Thank God – and the NHS – I’m OK, it’s just side effects plus an undetected gall-stone. Phew.
@ Giles Oakley
Good luck to you Giles. You sound very brave. Hope you get positive news in the coming months
@Giles Oakley
Good to hear from you every now and then. As slim said, good luck with your battle. You are in all our red thoughts.
the biggest insult here is to continue playing O’shea at right back!
No way he should be starting unless we are in injury crisis.
debaser – I agree, oshea seems very clumsy and even more imobile than ever before. He lacks the pace or technique to be an effective fullback plus he is awful at centre half. And if Corey Evans is given a proper go, I think fergie should move oshea on, has he has been here 1 year to long. I maybe to nasty towards oshea, but I do not think he is not reliable anymore these days.
well I will resay that – t I do not think he is reliable anymore these days.
Corrys a central midfielder.
Who made up that wes brown chant ???????????????????????????????????????????????
anyone know???????????????????????
@ Giles Oakley
Keep on fighting Sir, Good luck…
Very nice to hear about the progress….gall bladder stone! Wow, i’d never imagined i’d see someone ‘phewing’ at coming to know they had a gall bladder stone…
But then after what you’ve been through, you deserve a few going your way…
Regards
Is it really another week to go before United football action! good Lord….this is crazy…
Why cant they have a three week period in the middle of nov or something and get all the international matches out of the way then…at least we wont get these stupid two-week interruptions so frequently and we can plan our holiday get-away or whatever in that period accordingly
willierednut – I am sure he can play right and LB. has he has more ability and he is better in possession of the ball than oshea, and he does not give the ball away has cheaply has oshea does
To be honest, I don’t know what the hell he was thinking when he said that to Sir Alex. I mean he’s not even a young manager to joke with. And I agree that this shouldn’t lead to Brown’s exit. I wish it was O’shea who said that instead of Wes really… -_-
@rtnk
Did John O’Shea hit on your missus? Coz you seem mightily pissed with Johnny boy mate! just kidding mate….
But I agree with you regarding John O’shea not starting. I dont think he’s a starter, better starting with Rafael or in games where more physicality is needed we can play Wes as he overlaps better.
But i still think with his experience and versatility, he is a good member of the squad..
Anyone who can nutmeg Luis Figo and chip arsenal’s goalkeeper from 20 yards cant be that bad can he?
@Giles Oakley. I thank God for your life and faith. will remember you in my prayers. All the very best!!
I said this about Park recently, but it goes for O’Shea too. We have immortalised Forlan for making the scousers cry 8 years ago even though he hasn’t played for this club in 6 years. We have 2 members in our club who have done the same thing over the last 3 years and the amount of critisism they get imo is shocking. Now I am not saying that they should get a free pass for the rest of their United careers, but lets be more respectful about long time servants who are out of form.
Lets be respectful, but not sentimental.
Red Devil – HAHAHAHA I do not want to sound like an ass-hole on oshea and even evans who I find is worth keeping. But I do think they are the weak links when they start especially this season, the quality and the quantity shine through. vidic evra, vs evans oshea. I just see positional sense they really do get found out and they have cost and almost cost united allot of points.
I just look at a cycle for a phew players, yea PPL say they are squad players. But I really think corey evans, cleverly, de laat. drinkwater and we already have rafeal and fabio come next season will become the real deal, they should take the places of park anderson carrick and oshea, because they are at the end of a cycle. Evans I do find is a worth while keep, but some players I feel should be moved on the ones I said. what does everyone else think
I don’t believe that it’s sentimental if one suggests that these 2 players, who were vital to the club’s success 2 seasons ago, have still something to offer to the team. Not saying that either one should be starting every game of course…
Costas – I do think we got some quality coming through that are blocked by guys like park anderson and oshea. I feel guys like cleverly drinkwater, de laat, C Evans if given the chance these guys could easily become the long term servants of the club and replace the current squad players
Well, sentiment creeps in, when you like a player. I loved Keano, but towards the end he was disruptive an influence on the team and SAF made the right choice to let him go.
@RTNK
I never understood this notion mate. If a young player can make it, then he will force his way into the first team. It’s obvious that Michael Owen isn’t holding Kiko or Chicha back. So I don’t believe that Park or O’Shea are holding anyone back either. The problem with Park is that we don’t have anyone else available at the moment. Fergie obviously doesn’t believe that Obertan or Bebe are ready. Otherwise he would have started them at Sunderland.
No deying the talent of the young players, but imo, it’s not as simple as taking 3 squad players out and replacing them with 3 kids.
@willierednut
Yeah, won’t deny that sentiment always creeps in. It’s hard to look at United players through neutral eyes anyway. I just don’t see what the big fuss is with these two. We know that they are not world class and they are in a team that right now has plenty of players underperforming.
Costas
- I think drinkwater could easily do the job of park does and offer better quality going forward. He is a great talent who would fit in the first team no problem
- de laat has always impressed me at fullback getting forward and he is great holding the ball and passing it without giving it away. He has good experience in the first team
C Evans -yes he has not played many games in uniteds first team, but I find the talent he has he will make it. and his versatility could replace oshea’s and do it with better quality
- cleverly proved at watford that he is a potential goalscorer that he has in his arsenal scoring 14 goals in the championship which is tough. He maybe the next talent that can rival giggs scholes and beckham for that star quality, that will improve united like a 30 plus million pound player on the levels of rooney and ferdinand.
de silva twins – the only thing holding these 2 back is their physique. their ability to play week in week out is still underdevelopment. rafeal is ahead of fabio at the minute, but I do not see this lasting much longer. Come next season they will be ready.
It was in 95, probably won’t ever happen again though. If the kids are good enough, they’ll make it, but the general point is right, we just can’t throw kids in and think everything will be ok.
The O’Shea bashing is getting tiring. He is in the team to do a job, especially against teams which excel in set play situations. He provides the height in such situations which would be seriously lacking with Evra and Rafa on either side. Also, he had an injury hit last season. So give him some time.
About giving the youngsters a chance, if Fergie thinks they are ready, they usually get a chance. Pleasing to see Kiko get more chances this season. Waiting for Eikrem to get his chance now.
so I think we have the players ready to come in, all that is stopping these players is enough game time. these players are the tip of the iceberg, but these are the main players for me ready to take the mantle in the first team and the squad.
if welkbeck improves sunderland he will be the next guy that could add depth upfront and on the wings
when are they given the chance. cleverly did all he could last season. If fergie tends to bring him back and play him he could do a nani of last january
@rtnk
I’m not saying it couldn’t happen, but you’re expecting a lot for a lad to start performing like Nani ovr the last 12 months straight from his debut…
I brought this topic up has a way how can united improve their squad without looking to waste cash on overpayed players. And it made me think there are some already at the club, especially since VDS scholes and giggs wont be here long
I think that is what Giggs was referring to in his interview..that a couple of good games and you’re a world-beater nowadays and a few bad ones and you cant spell football, let alone play it—
Just look at Walcott, when he burst onto the scene he was gonna be the next Henry…a few poor performances and everyone was jumping in on him including Alan YSB Hansen and Stan ‘Doggy’ collymoron saying he doesnt have a football brain yada yada
Red Devil – he did score 14 at watford and that is no easy league to do it in, especially from midfield. I talked to a phew watford fans the other day, and they said cleverly would walk into the united first team
Of course we have good youngsters coming through, but the kind of scrutiny that the media put you under nowadays, its very difficult for a youngster breaking through. a few poor performances if you arent ready and your confidence is SHOT…
Just look at Bebe….poor lad hadn’t even kicked a ball for United and the Daily Fail was already writing his obituary
RTNK – If those players were ready for first team action, then SAF would have them in there, so obviously there ready just yet. I’m hoping if Cleverley comes back, he’ll get a run in the team, he’s at the age now, were he needs to be playing regular football.
*not*
willierednut – if cleverly does not make it I will be surprised. he seems to have that outstanding ability to score special goals like that bicycle kick he done on the pre season tour of the US
I have been one of the foremost supporters of Cleverly and Eikrem (Pogba and Ravel Morrison too—you’ll find these names on quite a few of my posts
), but I still believe they need more time to settle in….
As for goals at championship level, the quality of defending is really poor at that level—-i’m not saying its easy to score but the premier-league and champions league defences are of a different class….he might make the step up, who knows, I’m sure all of us would love it to see another home-grown lad step up.
Anyways, its 4:30 am here…time to catch some sleep…the hooligan kicker guy really kept me busy in the other thread….
Cheers mates! Have a good one..
@RTNK
As I said, no denying their talent. willie mentioned that 95 is hard to replicate and he is right imo. What we should take from that time is that if a player is ready, Fergie will give him a chance, even at the expense of big names(in 95, few United names were bigger than Hughes, Kanchelskis and Ince). But the youngsters have to start showing that they can do it on the big stage. Beckham had already proven himself in the first team. As had Butt and Scholes. From the current class, I can safely say that Rafael is starting to show that he can make the rb position his own. All he needs, is to build on his fitness. Cleverley could be the real deal too, but we will only know once he dislodges someone like Carrick or Anderson.
Red Devil – it is potential especially those stats from midfield. And it is not easy to score goals from midfield on that level, yes he will need time but we give guys like ronaldo allot of time when it took him a while to finally come good. I do think he has a better football brain that walcott, that it is not all pace
Costas – cleverly I find has far more talent than anderson, and his ability to break forward he is more threating in the final third than someone like say anderson. But the whole point of me discussing this is, with the glazers all ready producing record losses of the club because of the interest, I raised some pointers what other ways could united improve the squad without spending a fortune, especially has fergie says he will spend big replacing scholes giggs and VDS. I tried to look at other means to beef up the squad
@rtnk
Yep, we do need to find a few real gems from our youth academy—-money will be hard to come by, especially if the Glazers start to take out cash to pay down the PIK’s.
But the cavalry would have us all believe otherwise that all is well with the world. Its hard work keeping the cavalry at bay, eh Costas!
Well nitie-nite lads…carry on the good work of keeping ROM alive!
@RTNK
Yeah, I agree that we will need the Academy. Maybe more than we normally would have. At the same time, it won’t help if the young players are not the real deal. Plus, Ferguson still wants immediate success for the club and figures that players who have helped the team reach Ch.League finals in the last 2 years are still reliable. And, I think it’s good for the young players if they have to fight for their spot instead of it being handed to them. That’s why Owen’s presence helpes keep Kiko and Chicharito on their toes and why Park and Anderson’s presence could do the same for other youngsters.
@Red Devil
Heh, exactly. We could make a 100million pound loss and it would be impressive management in some people’s eyes.
Anyway, I am off too. Goodnight…
Red Devil – I wish Scott would bring this debate up since he hates the glazers has much has most united fans probably 99.9% of us do. Are there other ways to improve the squad instead of spend spend spend on crap. Sorry I was harsh on certain players, but my thinking is, lets not beat about the bush and say we have money. I do not think we are that loaded with 165 million, and I do not believe the club are now active in the market because for 2 things.
United are scared to take a chance anymore
and the money is there for other purposes, that is what I believe.
I think giving a very promising player a chance, is has taking a chance on buying a player from another league. I do believe united’s academy has got to start paying back the clubs time and efforts, especially the way the glazers are using the clubs finances the academy has to start producing.
night all
RTNK … I value your opinion on everything regarding United … I really do. Even when I disagree or hate the venom your express towards the business men who own our club (who are husbands, dads and grandads, i.e.human beings don’t forget)
That said, while there’s no way to prove this… your absolutely wrong if you think 99.9% of our supporters want rid of the Glazers. I would say 60% / 70% at most might be willing to wear green and gold but the vast majority of them wouldn’t be able to tell you who they want to own the club or they would come up with a totally impractical ownership solution for a Bilion pound ++ global sporting enterprise.
This Glazer issue really does split our support in two. I and I believe the majority back Fergie and Gill
and while they describe them as “teriffic owners” they don’t want to see football matters impacted by pointless protests etc.
Just my opinion of course. Good Night.
LU – IFIT
Costas. Spot on mate. Fucking stick park and sheasy get is disgusting. Bet these fans were more than happy when park headed the winner ahgainst the dippers. These players are invaluable to uniteds success. Some fans clearly don’t see it. How the fuck is anderson at the end of his cycle. He is fucking twenty one. Laughable. The recent transformation of nani should be a warning. Pound to a penny if drinkwater de laet etc startyted and we got beat I bet these folk would be the first to moan
This cavalry thing is getting tedious. Some fans are just sick of the finanace shit and wanna watch the shirts. This sarcastic tone shouldn’t be directed at those that just happen to trust fergie
Dave Mack – 99.9% maybe OTT, but most of the fans want them out. Even scott himself wants them out and he is one of the best reds
King Eric – hey sorry was hard on a phew players, but long term this ownership is pissing me right off. When I see the latest figure’s I am frustrated on what bastards who have put very little into the club. United is a passion of myn and I feel we are not getting what we deserve a club seeing the fruits of the cash we have made, which should be improve the clubs stadium, and expand other adventures. I trust fergie but I do not trust these owners
the glazers are taking the piss right out if the fans, gillet and hicks are a perfect example they want to put liverpool into administration, if that’s what it takes to get and extra 70 million each from their so called investment. Like I say the fa and premier league are a complete joke
if the glazers are human I am a millionaire
Rtnk. Morning mate. I can understand yuur frustations and its clear from your posts over the months you love and are passionate about united. Goodnight
@Giles Oakley
Wishing you all the very best. My dad succumbed to colon cancer about 6 months ago, and I saw what he went through. Remember, the best encouragement can only come from within – so be positive, and remain optimistic. Fight everyday for yourself, your family, and for United. Tell yourself you need to see Eikrem/Pogba/Petrucci come into the team at the very least.
SAF in the White House?????
http://www.sport24.co.za/Soccer/EnglishPremiership/Ferguson-tours-White-House-20101009
King Eric – I did not mean united are not good enough and I went overboard with players leaving. I just get so pissed off with how our ownership has been like for 5 years I take it out on united players. I will continue to say this, if it was not for fergie the glazers would not be able to take so much money out of the club. They should be kissing fergie’s ass because he has basically made more money for the club. Well I probably wont be sleeping 2day so much anger my brain is at overdrive, watching movies all night decided to come back online
fergie for president I say of the world
@giles oakley, be strong my friend, i love your stories. chin up be strong, its fans like you that make me proud to be red,
much love mate
rob x
Dave Mack says:
That said, while there’s no way to prove this… your absolutely wrong if you think 99.9% of our supporters want rid of the Glazers. I would say 60% / 70% at most might be willing to wear green and gold but the vast majority of them wouldn’t be able to tell you who they want to own the club or they would come up with a totally impractical ownership solution for a Bilion pound ++ global sporting enterprise.
While I agree its difficult to put a percentage on the amount of fans that oppose the Glazers, I’m more inclined to your figure DM, its a bit depressing when you see G&G scarfes being worn with the new shirts (and thats in the Stretford End) it does make you roll your eyes! Even the Glazer out chants are more muted around the stadium it does make you wonder if the fight to get them out has lost momentum, which in my opinion it has as I suspect most fans are resigned to the fact that the Glazers are here till they want to go and not before.
On another note I have a pal named DM, he lives in a borough of Merseyside, is that you!!!
@King Eric
Exactly. It’s a squad game and these 2 are valuable players for specific missions. Every now and then, they will get longer runs in the side and that exposes their limititations. But in no way should it mean that they don’t deserve to play for the club.
As someone who started the cavalry thing, allow me to explain. It’s not directed at Glazer supporters in general. And it’s not directed at fans who just want to watch the team on the field and support the club. So, you haven’t seen me say “here comes the cavalry” when Wakey, parryheid, wayne, you, Dave Mack(and maybe I am forgetting someone) post a comment here. It’s directed at those who usually only pop up here when the ownership is discussed and with a condescending tone at that. I don’t want to be sarcastic with anyone, but that works both ways. Now that I’ve narrowed it down quite a bit, I hope we can avoid any future misunderstandings.
By the way, has anyone seen Notorious Red Devil here recently?
Costas. No worries mate. Cheers. No where is N R D ?
@King Eric
Of course I should add that I’d also prefer it if some fans didn’t come here only to bash the Glazers. Anyway, I think Notorious hasn’t been here in a while. I was hoping to get his reaction after Berba’s hat trick, but I don’t remember seeing him post at the time. I was wondering if anyone heard anything.
Offtopic, but I hope those rumors about sanchez come true.
Watching the Sunday Supplement on Sky. Complete rubbish. Can’t wait for the team to get its act together and proves those buffoons wrong…
@ Toms
Hope so as well. Also the Neuer ones.
These 2 are valuable players for specific missions, are they undercover operatives Costas? lol.
Not sure if any of you guys get to watch PLTV (Premier League TV) which is the company that sells tv coverage for the PL.
Anyway, most of their guests are so anti United its a joke. Andy Townsend has already handed the title to Chelsea, Gareth Southgate is adamant that shitty will finish above us.
Worry not though my fellow Devils, I do skype in regularly to their shows and now I have a nice wager with both Andy and Gareth…. Should either of their predictions be wrong than they will attend their show wearing a UNITED shirt!
slight of topic, has any1 seen this about that little argie fker moaning again about quitting football, poor little carlito, he says his body is old, and he cant take it anymore…… i would like to see the little fker get up at 5am everyday, travel nearly 2 hours to site then do 10 hours work , travel back, then work on yer house at night time, and goto bed at 12ish… do that ya little money grabbing rat faced fker for a year or so, and see how you body feels then!!!!!.. he dosent realise just how lucky he and the rest of the modern football players are.. makes me sick!!
@ shmoo
Just read about it… made me laugh really. Tired of playing football and getting crazy money? But like you said this dick head has no idea how easy he has it. Some people work a whole life time to earn what he makes in one week….
To Costas, Red Devil, Yor Yor, Slim, Rob/ Vidic will get ya, Legolas, many thanks for your kind words which as always mean a lot, coming from the United family. I was very sorry to hear about your father Yor Yor, which gives an added dimension to your words of encouragement to me, which are very much appreciated, especially the bit about Eikrem, Pogba and Petrucci. Brilliant advice, as from what I’ve seen they look fantastic. I was going to say ‘I can’t wait to see them in the first team’, but that seems a bit pessimistic!
Afternoon reds
Afternoon Giles Oakley – read your updates keep the flame burning
I’m under the weather so for the time being over and out
To all to CedarsDevil
This shirt is a symbol of defiance – in trusting it we defy everyone that does not.
History speaks for itself – take us to a corner tell us that it’s over and then watch
Manchester United will never die – if those that do not believe still don’t understand then we are many that do.
They make take our wifes, but they’ll never take our freedom!!
@willierednut
Hey, we are at war, lol. Park’s mission is to embarass Arsenal(he has scored against them more times than Ruud
) and O’Shea’s mission is to put Arsenal games to bed when we are down to 10.
@King Eric, Costas, willie
hello mates…..
I am sorry if you felt bad about the ‘cavalry thing’ as you described it, but I think Costas explained it pretty well. All of us are passionate United fans who care for the club and its the condescending tone of some posters that gets under the skin. As I already mentioned in another post, one usually doesn’t want to kick lumps out of fellow United supporters but respect is a two-way street…
I see willie and Costas are upto their usual shenanigans
Now all we need is for someone to bring up the name of Jenna Jameson 
On the point of missing posters, there’s quite a few who’ve gone missing off late….
RedScot, RCWIS, (NRD as you already mentioned), there’s quite a few not seen around this blog off late.. they were two funny guys..wonder where they’re at
Costas .
Just read your 7.35 post ,bit Stazi like keeping records of non conformists to your views dont you think.
@Red Devil
Hi mate. Lol, don’t mention the name Jenna Jameson so early in the day.
@parryheid
If I can remember with whom I agree or disagree on a particular subject is Stazi like, then call me a Stazi spy if you want. Non conformists? Who am I? The pope? The meaning of the comment was entirely different if you read it carefully.
morning newpapers have us linked with 4 goalies today,lindegaard,de gea,stekelenburg,neuer, i thought last year we were interested in the russian goalie aswell,another has us going for sanchez in january because of the valencia injury and rooney wants a winter break,for me as a fan the xmas period is the most exciting these two week international breaks that nobody gives a toss about is what makes the season so long,you could cut the season down i’m guessing by a couple of months without internationals then play those games once the season is over
@wayne
At this rate, we’ll be holding a goal keeper sale of our own a couple of years down the line if we buy all we are linked to….:D
@Costas
Hey, if I do say anything to offend you, I apologize in advance mate…just dont add my name to your list will you…
@Red Devil
Lol, no mate. Why would you think that? You didn’t offend me. Just leave the Jenna references for later in the day.
Costas…
I just got scared mate….Stazi….wow i dont wanna take any chances..:D
@Red Devil
Heh, don’t worry about it. You are not on our list.
Red Devil – No need to say sorry, you’re entitled to your opinion mate. If some don’t like it, then that’s just tough. On missing posters, RCWIS is Lord Gaga now, the others, i don’t know where they are, I’m sure they’ll be back though.
I admit that until Red Devil brought it up, I had forgotten about RedScot. Haven’t seen him around here in a while..
@Giles Oakley..I’m sorry to hear about your condition. I will be praying for you. Cancer runs in my family and while I see the suffering the person goes through, I won’t pretend to know how you are really feeling. But, you will be in my thoughts and I hope you beat this nasty disease.
@rooney the new king – please take care of yourself. We all feel frustrated and angry but you gotta do something to make sure your health isn’t affected so badly. I know exactly how you are feeling because I’ve gone through the same thing many times and it’s going to ruin our health.
Ah RedScot. He’d start a fight in an empty house lol.
@rtnk, Dave Mack
Just missed your earlier post mate at 0:16 mate
I have to disagree with you there… I dont hate the glazers per se as human beings mate…why should I, they haven’t done me any harm at all. It just that I dont agree with the way they have conducted their business with regards to United. And if money-minded men take greed to higher levels, then people have got a right to protest, which right is embodied by the Govan roots of our very own deity Sir Alex.
And I believe our protests are having an effect…the only reason funds have not been taken out yet from the club’s coffers to pay the debt is that the eyes of the fans all over the world are on them and they are aware of the fact that they cannot do anything they want.
Also the freeze in the ticket prices is another example of that—-it was already budgeted in the previous year, but they cancelled the rise in prices because of the protests.
I will only be too glad if all goes well and United go from strength to strength, and here’s hoping to that..
Not read every comment so apologies if I’m repeating what’s already been stated, but something must be going on as I can’t believe he is not starting at right back ahead of O’Shea, despite stating he is primarily a centre half.
I know he hasn’t hit the sames heights as 07/08, but to be fair it seems he hasn’t really been given the opportunity.
Some of it is through the bad luck of injuries, but it seems whenever he returns to fitness Sir Alex is reluctant to bring him back in. I always have said he suffers the odd lapse in concentration, but whenever he gets a run of games he shows his class, as proved in that season, but unforunately he doesn’t seem to get them that often.
Wouldn’t want to see him go.
willie- How could we forget RCWI, the comedy genius that he was? Him and Redbeard. And Fred lol. And yeah, RedScot’s been gone a long while. Where’s FailsworthDevil though? He’s been gone for about a year.
theboogeyman – Don’t forget manutdchampions08, he was a comedy genius.
@willie at 13:57 …hahahahaha…
RedGem – health wise I am fine united glazer talk will always bring out my HULK side because I get angry of how they have treated a club which is making a fortune with little reward on the profits made, imagine any persons family are billionaires and in the will you will not get a penny, that is how I feel is happening to united we are making a fortune with little put back into the club to improve OT etc etc . I am 24 etc etc, I have got super angry when I have lost many games on the ps3, so the glazer talk is a walk in the park
Red Devil – true there they know the never ending hurricane of fans will always hate them of how the club has been treated. I probably rank on ROM, has the NO1 fan who hates the glazers more than any other fan. Maybe that is an ego thing talking but I do class myself has the no1 hater of the glazers LOL
willie- Yeah, him too. No one will beat Tufty though.
@ Giles Oakley 21:19
Wow – puts everything here in context really when you hear something like that. I wish you all the best in your ongoing fight.
@parryheid 12:58
That’s you on the list!
@rooneythe….okay, i see.. take care just the same…
I hate all newspapers, but the Sun is the one I hate with a passion, purely because they seem to have great joy in incorrectly addressing our great manager. I don’t believe anything they say. Fucking cunts.
Kings – Steven Howard is the main culprit in that paper.
would be more gutted if he left then i was when andy cole left
wes brown and his family use to liv on the estate just off winterford avenue in ardwick (which is more or less longsight for tho’s who don’t know) a 10 second walk from my grans house, when i was younger me and my cousin would have a kick around on the street with wes and reece, he was always a good guy i remember when i first seen him play, there was a tournament at the cliff around 1998 and he was playing for the youth team, it was a day i remember well because it was the day i more or less fell in love with united, i remember seeing andy cole, phil neville, david may, brian mcclair, the physio rob swire, and nicky butt and the fact that wes has been with the first team for 12 years he’s deffo heading the same way as giggs, scholes and neville in being a 1 club man, hes one of our most loyal players and the fact that hes been with us so long should mean he gets the chance to see out his career with us!
and am sure most united fans would prefer to see him start over that plank o’shea anyday
lets just say that wes does leave, where does that leave his younger brother who would obviously harbour ill feelings towards the club if his brother got the boot
why do some fans suppose the Glazers are just greedy folks??… for all you know, they are great fans just like us but have fulfilled their dream of buying their idol club and the chance of taking United to greater heights… unfortunately, it’s not workin out the way they expected, isn’t that modest?… I dont think Gill and SAF will still be supportive if they had selfish intentions. My humble opinion.
@Costas. 100% right on everythin you’ve posted.
@RedGem. A lady is the thermometer of the house. and you’re a really good one. keep it up!! lol
@Legolas..lol..thank you…
@RedGem. you are welcome dear…
Most of these comments are way old. And Wes has still hardly played at all this season. Rafael is a quality young player but is a liability and he will cost us at some point and hopefully not in a big game… either by giving a penalty or a sending off…
O’Shea hasn’t played much either…? And Gary Neville has just about retired.
I would prefer Wes at right back for the title run in. The semi against Barcelona at Old Trafford he was a man mountain.