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Loved it
MUTV <3
Class!
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We are United
Wonderful video
Lyrics anyone?
I hardly understood other words, crap accent always do my head
I used headphones but even that didn’t help….
Sorry for the last post, but I put something on the other thread and it says ‘Waiting for moderation’
Nice video and poem.
Did George Soros just by 8% of United for $1,557.29?
Page1 line of $0.0005 per share? $1,557.29 was paid for 8% of United. Must be missing something.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1029160/000101143812000292/form_sc13g-manchester.htm
Anne Eaves reports its actually $14/share…. but that still values United at only 1/2 billion.
**** buy ***
My favourite Mike Garry poem is God is a Manc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L61okbUrdg0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Brilliant poem from Mike Garry.
Well done, top drawer!
http://www.soccerex.com/industry-news/espn-star-sports-chief-set-to-join-united/
Proverb- lyrics on godisamanc wirdpress. Com
This blog has ceased being a place where a United fan can seek solace or get some reprieve.A solitary defeat and the garbage that is written on here is incredible.Too much doom and gloom,chastising the manager,abusing our very own players and the lot leaves a lot to be desired of Man Utd fans.In all fairness,the team has glaring deficiencies and some players underperformed yesterday but common toning down with a bit more constructive criticism does’nt hurt.Im not in the mood to dwell too much on that as i just feel sick.The defeat hurt but what was even worse was the content of the blog.
It has to be said that its about time Sir Alex brings back the hairdryer.Not slating players but Wazza,Nani and Evra are clearly resting on their laurels.About time they were made to sweat for a starting position if you ask me.I know its still early and Everton is one hell of a ground for us but it would be understandable being beaten after putting up a fight.A lack of commitment might see us droping crucial points and come the business end of the season they will come home to roost.
Andre Marriner really left me baffled yesterday.Its very true that Fellaini was a handful,but the mere fact that he goes unpunished each time he raised his elbow was hard to stomach.I could clearly see it not even two or three times and the only conclusion i could come up with was that he really needs to go to specsavers.Having said that,i reiterate my desire that i want a ruthlessness in front of goal.I hope Fulham will bear the brunt of our defeat when we play them.No more fluffing the lines,just passing the ball into the net is all i want.
Gudday all
Thanks red billy
Proverb that crap accent you mention is called Mancunian.
I guess no one agrees with my analysis of Rooney then. I suppose it is hard to take having a Steven Gerrard in the side but this is what Rooney is becoming. An imoveable object with more power than the reigning manager due to his comercial value and the media furor that surrounds him. I honestly feel that we need a striker that stays up the pitch. We have been fortunate by getting forwards who have the desire to work and Rooney is one of them, cant fault points for effort, but when the defence needs a quick release, the wingers someone to cross the ball into and the playmakers (or should I say those with the ability to pass) have no one to pass too. I even saw Rooney 3 times yesterday take the ball about 5meters outside the area tightly packed with Everton defenders look up and see no one to pass to. Knowing the frequency Rooney looses a ball in these possitions I suppose no one wanted to make a run because if the ball was lost it would be them getting the hair dryer and time on the bench for leaving their post. Rooney looked up and found no one to pass to, exactly the same problem as Cleverley, Kagawa and Nani had yesterday as Rooney was more often than not beckoning for the ball at his feet right beside them only to take it pass it straight back to them and turn and jog away to find space. I commend Rooney truely for his effort but Im starting to think he is a michael owen, a david beckham a steven gerrard. A player who has been told from a very early age in his proffessional career that he is the real deal and anyone brought in to be his mentor has not been listened to. This is an English phenomenon where people grow up too quickly and dont listen to their betters and those with the appropriate experience. Why should Rooney listen to Berbatov, Rooneys the star. Problem is when we sit on their 18 yard box trying to break down their defence as they themselves have learned by watching and playing us that absorbing pressure this way and choking the attack. Not by crunching tackles but by marking every single blade of grass then its almost impossible to break through you really need someone with a real imagination in 3d. Your typical hard man 2 dimensional player fails here. Berbatov was the key, the reason why we had success when Rooney and Berba played together. Yes it looks lethargic but its effective.
I do honestly believe we have come to te point where we have to say goodbye. Hes too big for the club, we are a football team not the galcticos. We have got rid before when players stopped listening and improving (Beckham, Van Nistelrooy) and its time to do it again.
Goat i am honestly beginning to agree with you. Rooney is under NO PRESSURE to perform anymore. He’s the kingpin of the squad. He knows that he can’t be dropped by Fergie. God knows Berbatov would have played far better than he did yesterday. It’s only the first game of the season but man he looked a bit overweight. Anderson’s weight was just shocking.
Red Tash
Fucking great post mate, the negative cunts go against everything this blog was set up for. The drivel written is embarrassing. Spoiled bastards pal, i give to a lad on the train home last night royal style who was spouting off about Fergie.
Love the poem, I saw it on MUTV and it had me bouncing. Top away crowd last night we were everything an away crowd should be. Before the game we took over the spoons in Liverpool it was a great atmosphere, completely took over.
Hello all sorry for rant yesterday.We will neva die.
Fantastic poem and video.
Very moving indeed. A reminder if it were ever needed why football is more than just football but the hopes and dreams woven from the fabric of life that can be hard as well as joyous.
One of the best posts Scott has done as it’s uplifting. More of this please.
mancdub
Nice poem I enjoyed that. I thought when I clicked here we go, being a non believer, not such a fan of “modern” poetry keeping myself to Lawence, Yeats and Hardy. I thought here we go flat cap and whippet trying to be a scouser. (liverpool with its 10 million philosophers).
But it was nicely formated. The subject matter (god – creation . genesis) was obviously not my cup of tea as I am a mathematician physicist and dont believe, with my understanding that the bible was a book of “poems” “short stories” to guid people through life in a world where gentlemans magazines and mystic meg was yet to come to our aid, it is still a work of art which I appreciate. Those that appreciate the poem now are either from Manchester, have a tie to manchester or are forward thinkers. I enjoyed it but am also a conservative. No doubt had I been around in the turn of the century (1900) then I wouldnt have been too interested in Hardy, Yeats or Lawence, but I have an invested interest in that time period so I relate. As I said a nice poem, maybe it will help me relate more to Manchester and its people. Gets you thinking.
Oops got to sort the name on the shirt: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2191328/Anderson-Andesron-shirt-Manchester-United-Everton.html
Giggs12
Last person who spouted shit at Sir Alex in my face was a year after he joined us…. Was still in Manchester back then but I left the fucker with a nose bleed ……..Not a violent person but I do condone it, after all I am Lebanese
dannysoya LOVES USAIN BOLT
I see Rooney as wanting to run the show and be the pivot. The only problem is a team that employs a pivot and a focal point is the team that loses its way. Everyone on here would say what about Messi? Messi is not Barcas focal point, he is a highly skilled forward that works for the team and is the spear head of the attack. Their play focusses around the tackling of Busquets, the playmaking skills of Xavi, the robsonesque running of Iniesta couple with the devistating striking ability of pipo Inzaghi, the selfless ness of David Villa who is willing to give up the central role for the betterment of the TEAM.
At United we have Rooney the presser, Rooney the focus, Rooney the striker (not as much nowadays it seems) Rooney the defender, Rooney the ………………. Some players make others better, Rooney I feel steps on the toes of those around him. I dont doubt what he could be, I dont question his effort, but I do question his attitude, his true ambition, his ability to learn, his intelligence. Thats why I think its come to the end of the road. Fergie would be a fool not to pick up Kaka on the loan maybe even get Khedira and Kaka together for Rooney and free up space for Modric.
Sara
Thanks for the kind words.
Red tash Giggs 12- I seldom comment on such issues as the negativity . yes we lost the opening game against a team who, I we are fair worked their guts out. Credit due to them. Disappointment and critical analysis yes please. But get behind your fucking team. It pains me to see how negative some of the posts are, or is it the impending piss taking from opposition supporters that irks them. Goes with the territory .
Focus on the positives kagawa , vidic back and clevs. We won’t be the only team to come unstuck there this season.
Anyway. At least it cheered the scouse up. Let’s be fair , they ain’t got much to laugh about
Look on the bright side. We are still ahead of Liverpool.
Cedars- thanks for the link
Costas- Were ALWAYS. Ahead of liver30ol
When sir alex retires, united just have to recruit one of the thousands whinging internet bell-ends who clearly know better than him
Costas
It certainly doesnt look like Liverpool have learned anything in their time away frm the top. 20+ years since they won the league and they look no closer than Swansea in getting it despite poaching their manager and an influential player. Has to make you laugh. Liverpool is to football what Jerry Springer is to the world of psychiatry.
Proverb
You can put my name forward if you like, dont seem to get much support around here, lol. I dont want the man to move on but Im not scared to take the job. Hell shite, Id even take the job of peace envoy for the UN for Syria and would welcome the job of the first joint president of the states of Israel and Palestine. No fear here.
Goat
After your post last night I pray to god you are joking, id sooner take Redknapp
Stirring poem. Makes me proud to be a Manc.
Giggs12Gerrard0
No I didnt get much support for my write up but at the same time got zero feedback in what was wrong. Not one single poster countered a single one of my arguments rather just throwing it out as ludicrous. In life there are yes men and no men, its a special being that can put ideas together and formulate hypothesses, its a cross between a milking cow and road sweeper that says “nah, youz iz idiot hurr durr”.
I try and make discussion alot on here just polute the internet with unwanted text. My texts may not be wanted but you have to qualify to have an opinion on whether they are wanted or not. Sorry but your want of Redknapp over me means you failed your exam. Better luck next time.
Goat
You know me well enough on here to know i am no yes man! I formulate my own ideas and will advise when i think something is ludicrous. By failing your exam pal puts my mind at ease i wouldn’t want to be graded by the great goat as some schools are not worth attending.
Any Utd forum without Cedars is great!
Goat
Honestly mate I’d lose faith in the club if they signed you. Look, there’s a reason why Rooney came back after the whole ambition gate, nay, there’s a reason why he was ALLOWED back after ambition gate, and that too with a fat paycheck. It’s because he is that good, and SAF sees him as a crucial component to the squad and it’s appeal worldover. Yes, he is an icon and a star, but since when is that a bad thing? Keep his attitude in check, and his mind focused and he’s as lethal as any.
I don’t understand you people and your constant scape-goating rooney, Yes he wasn’t at his best yesterday but so was the rest of the team. Remember it’s about 11 people’s effort not 1′s.
Goat just go already. Thread killer. Pushing people away.
utd_fc
I have had an issue with Rooney and the ambitiongate fiasco and I have had an issue with Rooney and the prostitute even though having an extra marital relationship isnt illegal and all above board BUT my issue with Rooney is solely football. I have, as I have always said, no desire to worship the ground a modern footballer treads as I move in far better circles. I find the modern footballer (mainly the british ones – more so the english ones) a complete moron, void of any academic ability, void of any reasoning in what they say and are as people best suited to the biggest pass time of the unemployable there is. Rooneys play is unintelligent. Its as simple as that. For body strength 100%, top notch, work rate 100% couldnt fault a forward who tackles back and gets involved BUT he likes to come deep. Credit to him for that BUT he cant do short range passing, he doesnt always control the ball well, hes always in two minds – one as a striker the other as provider. He has no real defined role, now is that by design a decission of Sir Alex or is it Rooney I do wot i want. He is a jack of all trades, master of none. Alot come on here saying Ill change my tune later on when hes banging them in. Maybe I will, Im man eough to admit when Im wrong BUT he isnt going to score when pinching the ball off the toe of Cleverley 30 yards out. Hes not going to score when hes run back through midfield and taken the ball off the toe off the left back. Hes not going to score when he thinks hes the new Scholes. Replicating Paul Scholes on the pitch doesnt make you the new Paul Scholes, the player but more importantly the man Paul Scholes has very few betters if any at all.
If Rooney holds his discipline and stays in a possition to recieve the ball rather than coming to get it he is world class. When he comes looking he is Steven Gerrard.
utd_fc
On another side of the coin you could say Rooney waited just long enough during ambitiongate to make sure the stock of Rooney shirts and other merchandise with his name on it was ready for the coming seasons sale BEFORE he took the piss. Glazers/Sir Alex were left in the knowledge that if the agreed to a sale as his wage demands were stupid (still are stupid) then the throw away of all that stock would have cost United more than caving into Rooneys requests.
Zfag hush, theres a good girl.
A
You offer nothing to the forum, no ideas, no opinions and the only time people respond to you is basically to tell you to pipe down.
Cedars is a quality lad, keeps the blog alive in the summer months,and is a top red.
More disappointed with the sanctimonious comments about other posts highlighting weaknessess and where it went wrong on the night.
Goat
I think we share a similar outlook in Rooney and the squad. His goal tally will mask the poor showing he’s served up for s while now.
It’s the shape of the team-injuries aside that worries the hell our of me.
Costas was bang on about current state of the defensive issues. The lack of it is causing s serious imbalance its shocking. Carrick moving back to CM will the God sent but that’s only half the problem solved.
Truth is he’s our xavi or lampard. Asking him to bear the defensive burden is unfair. In a 4232 formation he’d ideally play alongside a CDM and have a front 3 of kagawa/clevs ,the 2 wingers and one of the strikers up top. Hwll you could have Danny on the left. I thought he did well and read kagawas game much more than any if the other attackers.
Defensive platform is missing. While thats the case the attackers who still have to improve individually will struggle to show how good they can be as a unit.
I always look at it like putting all the tech and engineering of a super car into a ford mondeo and expecting to go just as fast and handle the same way.
Back room staff worries me a helluva lot as well but not sure how to begin with that to be honest
Goat
I’m sorry mate but you are a proper hypocrite, you tried to label Mancunians and United fans as xenophobic and classless yet you refer to people as fags. You spoil yourself and its a real shame as when it comes to football matters whether I agree or not its a decent read.
I cast aside the past and how you exiled yourself from the blog, rightly so in many respects. You yet you are completely deluded by your own grandeur. If I could pass some feedback without being a cunt is to reign it in mate. Your opinion is not always right and your not above the law just because you seem to think your are a lot more intelligent than anyone else who posts on here.
hELLO
Go ROONEY!!!!
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Rooney is only 26 sad days ahead for all people who love MUFC and don’t understand winners!!!!
GO ROONEY FOR 10 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!
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Giggs12 he is all theory no practice.
8 types of intelligence, in some he is high, emotional intelligence he is a 2 out of 10, 10 being highest.
Giggs12Gerrard0
I appreciate your words. I am not homophobic despite the word usage of fag. fag, faggot or faggit is a word used to define homosexuals but is also a term used to label the weak and feeble. Like black is used to donate colour of a person but also that of a colour in no relation to a person or an emotion. Just because a word is used as a derogatory term we cannot simply ban it if it has multiple meanings. Thats just silly. My use of the word is weak and feeble not as a homophobic slur. Personally I havent a care in the world where you put your cock. Thats between the 4 walls of your bedroom and no concern of mine.
@Goat
Agreed pal. I’d also love that Liverpool are what Jim Carrey used to be. A source of endless laughter.
I mean, Joe Messi returning to the club because no one wanted him and he only lasted 4 minutes at West Brom. Lol.
Goat
So you have problems with his academics and his intelligence? What does that have to do with football? His extra marital affairs concern you how? I don’t understand this. Giggs did his whole scandal. It was way worse imo but that’s okay because he’s a red legend while the fat ugly scouser should get it up the arse right? WRONG. Rooney is our most valuable asset when he’s on form. The reason why he drops deep is because that’s what is required from him in his 10 role. We have no centermid who can dominate possession and boss the midfield around. We NEED players like him who work hard for the team and don’t shy away from doing their bit of defending too. By no means is he trying to be the next Scholes. If anything him dropping deeper towards the end of the game was Scholes’ own saving grace because he looked absolutely knackered and was totally out of breath. If it weren’t for Rooney we’d come off looking even worse.
You say that Rooney isn’t banging in the goals but once he does you’d be willing to change your tone about him? That sounds more than a tad bit hyprocitical mate. You don’t just decide to get behind the team or the players only when they’re winning, you stck w em through.
utd_fc
1. Rooney was dropping deep the netire 90 mins not just to save Scholes as you say.
2. Is not hypocritical of me to say that as soon as hes banging in the goals Ill change my tune BECAUSE in order to bang in the goals he has to be in front of the f-ing net NOT playing deep. He played the lone striker with Wellbeck on the left, His job then is to stay up and be in a possition to recieve. Hes so unintelligent he cant change the way he plays even if the formation is changed.
3. It is regarded as uncool to be eductaed in England amongst the elite of sportsmen because they have to be cool and street smart but by no means does education dampen your ability as a sportsman – far from it, it engages the brain and allows new ideas to flow, new neurons to be produced. The better footballers of the day are also eductating themselves. Look at north american sports ALL go through college, look at athletics most train in the US and go through college. Even spanish and Italian footballers are known to have some education. In england its better to be an asbo than an academic.
3. His extra marital affairs do concern me because it reflects on the club, it reflects on the person and it reflects on his performances as his outside life isnt peacefull due to his doing. For example, a man going through an acrimoneous divorce has his head in another place, his work suffers, he gets the sack. Its all an effect on Manchester United and I am a United fan who cares about such things.
4. I do have issues with any other player that does the same or similar things that then go on and effect the team. The Giggs issue Im not so clued up on. It happened when I was abroad and before I discovered RoM so I never got any depth of the story. So I cant judge.
5. You say we dont have a dominant midfielder but how will any of our boys get to be that man if he is “bullied” in his possition by a man out of his own. How do we know if Cleverley or Kagawa isnt that man – we need a certain player to give them their chance.
Play the football you were told to play if others around you fail in their task the manager will deal with it either by buying in new or promoting another DONT do his job at the expense of your own.
@goat
This is a new attacking look for United and Rooney is still figuring his role out. He is not an immovable object but Ferguson knows that he needs game time to gel with his mates and achieve match fitness. His first touch needs work, yes. But you are way, way off in your jumps in logic. We have depended on Rooney because who else could we look to in years past? Who else had the passion? Who else wanted to be the talisman? If you think Rooney is content with a poor performance you are sadly mistaken. RvP and Kagawa will force Rooney out at times this season and it will do him a world of good. Jumping to hasty conclusions like “sell him” are why this blog annoys the hell out of me at times.
RvP will change things. It will take time. SAF, after the game, credited his players on playing well in attack and connecting fluidly. Sure, they have a ways to go — but your assessment continues to be completely off the mark.
@goat
This is a new attacking look for United and Rooney is still figuring his role out. He is not an immovable object but Ferguson knows that he needs game time to gel with his mates and achieve match fitness. His first touch needs work, yes. But you are way, way off in your jumps in logic. We have depended on Rooney because who else could we look to in years past? Who else had the passion? Who else wanted to be the talisman? If you think Rooney is content with a poor performance you are sadly mistaken. RvP and Kagawa will force Rooney out at times this season and it will do him a world of good. Jumping to hasty conclusions like “sell him” are why this blog annoys the hell out of me at times.
RvP will change things. It will take time. SAF, after the game, credited his players on playing well in attack and connecting fluidly. Sure, they have a ways to go — but your assessment continues to be completely off the mark.
@Goat
“exactly the same problem as Cleverley, Kagawa and Nani had yesterday.
Agree, especially on Kagawa. His movement was excellent in an attempt to receive a through ball that would break down the defence, or looking to make a similar pass only to be disappointed by either a back pass, or no one to pass to.
I think Kagawa & RVP will actually understand each other better than Kagawa/Rooney. I’m hoping that’ll be the partnership will see @Fulham.
@iced earth – LOL, our new chairman is called ManU Sawhney?!
Sorry. It’s supposed to be “non-executive board member”.
We are the threads that weave
We are the busy bees
We are the fabric and the seams
The reason why we achieve
We are the warp and weft
We earn our daily bread
And we work and we work
Cos hard work brings success
We’re born out of industry
Cotton sewn through history
We’re revolutionary
We work while others sleep
We’re in the bricks and mortar
We’re the mothers fathers sons and daughters
The very DNA
Of what make this city great
We are the wool the wind the twine
We’re crafted tailored and designed
We’re the sign of the cross
We are temples, synagogues and mosques
We interlock and bisect
We criss cross and interject
We are the textile of time
The fundamentals of life
We are the battlers and fighters
We invented all nighters
We’re in the pulse the heartbeat the sound
We are the earth the sky the clouds
We are the contour lines
We are the Isobars
We’re ugly beautiful we carry battle scars
Success is our main goal
Our defence is our attack
And if you give us your soul
We’ll give you our heart and soul back
Goat
The 4-3-3 formation is a very versatile one. Last time we used it we had players like ronaldo rooney tevez all interchanging and switching positions as all were pretty versatile and quick. Very fun to watch. Except we don’t have the same midfield supporting us right now, especially an injury hit one. Anyways it been a while since we’ve done 4-3-3 and that too with pretty much a new team so it’ll take some time for them to figure it out right.
Rooney might not be the brightest bulb in the bin but he has a natural instinct about his play. He has a footballer’s brain.
Fine, as a concerned United fan you’re worried about our reputation, seeing as idiots like Cashley and Terry the cunt have had worse allegation hit on them, and successfully proven. But then as such a concerned United fan you should look up into the Giggs case too. I’d say he’s more an ambassador to United then Rooney. The guy’s been here for much longer than Rooney, he’s come up through our academy, and is one of our most decorated players. It’s not even that hard, just a quick google search, or any tabloid rag would have it covered i’m sure.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not lambasting Giggs or Rooney. What they did was their own problem and as long as it can be sorted out and not come onto the pitch then frankly I don’t give a rats ass. But that’s just me and everyone is different in their approach to their club and it’s representatives. I’m just saying be consistent in what you believe then. Don’t excuse Giggsy just because you were not that into ROM, infact ROM was quietest about it seeing as it is one of our own we’re talking about and we’re not gonna have a Giggsy bash-fest here now are we?
Kagawa and Cleverly are our midfield enforcers? AHahhaha mate you gotta be kidding me. Have you seen the size of those two? I’m sure the likes of tiote and toure shudder at our two big huge enforcers in the middle of the park.
And just for this reason did you ever think maybe the gaffer himself told Rooney to help out in midfield? Because that’s what happens in most games and if the gaffer had a problem with it I’m sure he’d have made him cut it out by now.