The Glazers have revealed that they will lower ticket prices for Tampa Bay Bucs by as much as 30% after complaints from the fans.
“We have spent a lot of time listening to fans at a time when our team is thriving and our economy is not,” said Joel Glazer. “As a result, we are now offering several pricing changes in response to our community’s needs.”
Unsurprisingly, MUST have got something to say on the matter, claiming that considering it is our club the Glazers have been taking money from, it is our fans who should enjoy the price cuts.
“Joel Glazer said he’s listened to the Tampa fans. Well it’s about time he listened to Manchester United fans and responded by cutting our ticket prices too,” said MUST Vice Chair Sean Bones. “Manchester United supporters should not feel they are subsidising the Glazers’ American Football Franchise as well as their debt. After the huge price rises our fans have endured while the Glazers have been taking out millions of pounds from our club if anything we deserve bigger price cuts than the Tampa fans. Anything other than an equivalent cut in prices at Manchester United will be seen as a slap in the face for United fans.”
Unfortunately, whilst Joel may claim the reason for lowering ticket prices is that they are listening to the fans, the truth is they can’t sell their tickets at current prices. After 13 consecutive years of sellouts, Tampa Bay’s attendance averaged 49,314 in 2010 whilst their stadium holds more than 65,000. The team failed to sell out any of its games for the first time in more than a decade.
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Thing is Bucs are shit and we’re not. Its probably why they are doing it. Bucs lose them money we make them money. I just wish they got rdi of the Bucs. Shit NFL team anyway.
luhg!
exactly, check our seasons 20o5 to present and thee amount of money the club has earned in TV revenue, stadium expansion of 76,000 players sold and bought its a joke.
United transfers in and out 2005
park 4 million – keane released
VDS 2 million – P neville 4 million
foster 1 million kleberson 2.5 million
United transfers ins and out 2006
carrick 16 million – van nistlerooy 10 million
kuszszec 3 million – bellion 1 million
blake 200k
howord and david jones und
united transfers ins and outs 2007
anderson 17 million – rossi 8 million
nani 17 million – heinze 9 million
hargreaves 16 million – richerdson 5 million
tevez loan total 10 million smith 7 million
united transfers ins and outs 2008
berbatov 30 million – pique 6 million
de silva twins 3 million each – silvestre ans saha und
United players ins and out 2009
valencia 17 million – ronaldo 80 million
obertan 3 million – tevez released
owen free
united players ins and outs 2010
hernandez 7 million – 7 youth players left go
smallen 6 million
bebe 7 million
spent 155 million
money brought in – 230 million
We could add up again the amount of tv money we have earned, the success of getting to 2 CL finals geting to the semi finals of the FA cup twice, winning 2 carling cups the rewards of winning the premiership 3 on a trot and our high league positions. Fuck our ticket prices should be down
sorry miss done the claculations, its 132 million or 33 my bad, but still we should have a fortune to burn
All of the comments regarding the success of the club and money being brought in actually supports the idea of keeping ticket prices high. The demand for everything Manchester United is clearly high.
And its pretty obvious that The Glazers are not lowering Bucs ticket prices because of “complaints by fans”. Its because no one is buying tickets. It just sounds nicer when you say you are doing it for the fans. Typical corporate bait-and-switch.
It’ll be a cold day in hell before the glazers reduce United ticket prices.
I cant believe MUST are so naive as to think by sending e mails we will get similar action here, fucking waste of time lunatics as has been said above its only cos they aint selling out, I predict a further price freeze but not much else.
I’ve been a Manchester United fan since my vocabulary consisted of words in single figures (indoctrinated…), and I always consider Manchester United as “my” club. However.. that does not mean I own it. In fact, I don’t _own_ absolutely anything of Manchester United.
The club has been in private ownership for a long time and that’s just a fact that has to be admitted. Of course, we can protest the prices of tickets and merchandise all we want, but as seen in the case of the Bucs, while demand is high, price will be high, that’s just the way it is in the market.
For all the threats made by the green and gold protests, there has been very little substance, and MUST have shown even less substance as have their friends, the so called “Red Knights”. There has been a hell of a lot of, “Do as I say, not as I do”, from the vocal supporters of MUST in terms of buying season tickets etc. and I don’t think I’m the only person who is getting tired of it.
Manchester United’s global dominance is simply the reason why the Glazers won’t budge. When you can go to Malaysia and see Manchester United stuff all over the place, don’t expect anything to change. As with the case of the Bucs, United would need to shrink, become unsuccessful and lose value dramatically before they would even consider it.
Dela – united are always going to be held back by parasites who are only in it for themselves
It’s supply and demand. Simple as.
If United struggled to sell out, the prices would come down.
Despite the formation of FC United and further ticket price increases Old Trafford is still full to capacity week in week out. Even for games against non-league opposition!
While old Trafford is full each week, no chance in getting ticket reductions. The Glazers well may be leeches, but they ain’t stupid.
Mannings – it is united for you they will sell out, it does not change the fact the results I have shown and we still hear the manager say value for money, when the engine room is 2 years overdue in needing sergery. Heck if we strengthened the midfield area, we would be champions last year and this year a guarentee
I would put ,y life on the line the title race would have been over by now, if we did strengthen the midfield
The last paragraph sums it up. Can’t see them reducing ticket prices for us any time soon.
Costas- are they even gonna give the manager money to spend in the summer
Can anyone believe the type of stuff flying around the internet from liverpool fans?
“Dirk Kuyt is [apparently] better than Gareth Bale”
Kuyt: 27 games started, 10 goals, 52 shots, 25 shots on goal, 5 assists and 25 fouls suffered.
Bale: 26 games started, 7 goals, 54 shots, 23 shots on goal, 1 assist and 50 fouls suffered.
Yes, because players like Nani/Hernandez dont exist…..
Well lets all Boycott OT then! I think not,those Twats milk us good like a prize Heffer and they love it.The Bucs are shite and are not fashinable ,were the complete opposite Im afraid,untill the Arabs come a knocking,the Glazers carry on a milkin!
FITB, nearing 19th, in the semis of the CL – just how has the Glazers held us back? Just because you believe that they refused SAF funds? Heck, if SAF didn’t make a move, it means he didn’t want to, not because he couldn’t.
If you’re not going to trust the man that has given us uncountable minutes of joy and happiness, and believes that he would betray his own integrity and lie to us for the sake of protecting his job… seriously.
Were we enjoying more success when we were a PLC? When we had the insane Keano and the foxest fox-in-the-box RVN and the golden delivery boot Beckham? Were we steamrolling opponents? Were we wrapping up the league in Christmas?
Get some perspective here!
YorYor – we are not nearing the 19th yet, you should get some perspective there are some tough games ahead, lets see how united do saterday. Uniteds midfield has been stale for 2 years and this year it has shown we are awful away from home because uniteds midfield has at an end of a cycle, look at 2001 we had keane scholes butt beckham giggs and fergie still went on to strengthen the midfield with veron. How come he has not done this, this time round when the midfield does need strengthening unlike 2001. What have the club done with well over 80 million of the ronaldo money. In 2000 and 2001 it was pretty obviious we were going to win the league, because those sides were that much better than the rest, esp 2000 we were so better than the rest it was not even funny
united more succesful with van nistlerooy, yea 1 league title and a terrible defence to the title in 2004 and no european cups was def a more succesful period werent it
I really wonder when these leeches are going to leave I’m sick of them,we haven’t strengthened much ever since they walked through the doors of Old Trafford in 2005.
Don’t see them going any time soon but I do hope something can be done about them,I want us to be competitive in the market,not crazy football manger type,just for us to add some quality,and lads I don’t mean to sound negative but if VDS was 33 or 34 do any of you think we would be buying possibly this summer? Looking at Scholesy,Red Nev and Giggsy,had they been 2 years younger would we be looking to strengthen,I hope you see where I’m heading to…
Yes we’re the most the valuable football club in the world and have a very pleasing revenue,but in our spending by adding quality personnel it doesn’t read the same currently. I mean is it a bad thing to spend and add a little more quality to our squad? I sincerely hope that we spend for the right reasons this summer and add quality,if we only get a keeper and I hear the same ol’ “there’s no value in the market” then lads,I’m afraid that we don’t have the spending power as other clubs around us,and by that what will that say about us? Oh right I know possibly you’ll hear Wazza saying the club lacks ambition all over again…and I don’t want another saga to rumble within the squad in the summer as it would unsettle the squad.
Anyway as for the long post I hope we beat Everton and take a giant stride to the title our 19th and it would be the best feeling in the world when it returns HOME!
Come On United!!!
Hargo’s Curly Hair – agreed I
I also do not want us spending like they done at shitty or the virus. and chelsea, but fuck strengthen the side. Like bring in 2 quality midfielders, get VDS replaced and not get all woried because 17 million is to much for a keeper. I do not want us has uncompetitive has arsenal where we waste crap on players like obertan where they hardly ever play, while you get your hernadez vidic and evra there is always your obertans and even bebe who never play, despite the fact bebe does excite me.
Fergie is the boss.
united are always going to be held back by parasites who are only in it for themselves.
If that is what you believe where’s the logic in changing what’s already in place.As for last year’s title it was a combination of a number of things.As for this year 19 is nailed on,and who knows may even be a CL bonus.
If a central midfield type player doesn’t walk through the door before the season starts then it confirms there isn’t any money to spend. I would say before the transfer window shuts but judging by what Fergie says he ties his own hands in some ways liking to get players in before the season starts. Another way these parasites make money is by charging double the market value through viagogo.
I think the fans negative reactions to the owners are holding us back as well. Not saying that the ownership deal is a weak link, but I do not see real evidence that it has done us damage from a footballing point of view. However one has to look at fan groups such as MUST and wonder if their positions have not contributed to out failure to bring in talented player. Not saying there is any evidence to support that position either. But if you are going to bash one side, you might take a minute to consider the opposite. An established player with wife and kids could well think twice about
coming to United with all the negative press and vitriol from some elements. Think Fergie has enough to do without having to convince a player to move when he has options in all the major European capital cities. Manchester? Milan? Might just take a punt for Milan myself.
To a man on this site there were doubts after 2 seasons of no signings that we would be mounting challenges on 3 fronts. One front has slipped, but with 5 to go we are in pole position with daylight in the prem and good prospects for a CL final. Fergie isn’t doing to bad with the hand he has. As for me, I am looking for a better voice of the fans. Support your team or shut the hell up.
they’ve got to give fergie money to spend this summer its in there own intrest, if they wanna finance the debt and line their own pockets the club has to be succesful on the pitch, maybe if we did shit for a yr or 2 they’d sell up
While I agree that the squad will need strengthening, I think many people are getting spoiled with the current success and expect United to sign everybody who is worth mentioning. It is painfully obvious United will need to purchase two players to be a consistent threat for trophies in the next couple of years; established goalkeeper and creative midfielder.
One thing that gets lost in the modern footballing era and to a certain extent is the belief in youth due to the mandatory-like need to finish Top 4. We are Manchester United, football taught by Sir Matt Busby. Have Cleverley make a run in midfield, he can do a job for United. I’m afraid that Macheda is another year away from being useful as a striker who can hold up play, pass and move into the box.
Unless Wazza plays in the hole in a 4-2-3-1 type formation like has been deployed in a handful of matches this year with Chicha up front…even then, many players will need sufficient rest this summer and early months of next year.
But till then, onto Saturday against Everton…must fight tooth and nail for 3 points for the 19th.
First to 80 points wins.
fitb – It isnt just the midfield you blame personally pal. But for some poor finishing and Defending United could have walked away with it. Blaming the midfield is folly mate. Fulham, Everton, West Brom, Newcastle. NONE of these were down to our midfield.
i dont understand why people would slag off bebe yet, its his first year at the club and hes come from lower portugese league its gonna take him time to settle, if fergie sees enough in him to buy him thats good enough for me
The bucks are currently in a television meaning that tv stations are not allowed to show thegames because the stadium is not full. this is why they lowered the prices. Why would they lower the prices at ot when the stadium is full for every game?
Fitb
“are they even gonna give the manager money to spend in the summer”
In my opinion, Fergie has more than enough money to spend. Would he bid 30+ mill for Benzema if he didn’t have the money? Would he bid 30+ million for David Villa if he didn’t have the money? Remember, Fergie has said he tried signing 1 player in the January transfer window, but the deal coulnt be finalised. I actually think it was just a case of finding the right person to buy.
King Eric – against teams like everton fulham and west brom, a stronger midfield we may have held on to all 3 of those results, has we had no protection from midfield. I looked at the everton result away when we drew 3 3, and how we were bypassed it was a joke.
huzi – united were never in the market for benzema has he was just like we already had, someone who drops deep plus he was unproved. H e was never gd enough for united
Thing is, these overly-educated, delusional douchebags give the rest of us Americans a bad name … Kind of like our nit-wit president.
Am surprised no one has taken one for the team, and unleashed some fire power on the Glazers arses. There are plenty of nutters in Salford.
Fitb
Funny you failed to relate to the David Villa transfer.
And about the Benzema thing, it was rumoured that we were on the verge with Madrid hijacking the deal in the last minute.
On the day that United announced the £15.25 million signing of Antonio Valencia, the Ecuador winger, on a four-year contract from Wigan Athletic, Miralem Pjanic, Benzema’s team-mate at Lyons, claimed that the player was on the verge of a British-record move to Old Trafford.
“Benzema is nearly gone to Old Trafford,” Pjanic, the midfield player, said. “The English club are willing to pay close to €45 million [about £38 million].”
@Fletch
Look mate I don’t use this to disregard supporting United, I love my team but to put it in simple terms we have leeches and we can’t deny that,it’s just that the Glazers have to look it like this: Since we’re their main source of income if they want us to be successful and bring in trophies and put some money which should be going to invest and improve the club instead goes into their pockets,then they should give Sir Alex a transfer kitty to improve the squad,that’s all mate
There is no evidence that SAF doesn’t have a sizable transfer kitty. None!
@fletch
Agreed mate. I trust SAF and if he feels the squad needs strengthening, he will buy. Why would he be afraid of the Glazers and lie to the fans?
Any guesses as to who he (almost) bought in January? Charlie Adam?
I would say Rodwell or Young.
But I really hope we won’t sign Young.
We need to strenghten our engine room.
Tampa Bucs is shit and united aren’t, plus they have been on the decline since winning the superbowl and I don’t see them winning let alone making it to the playoffs anytime soon.
@Fletch
Look at it whichever way,we haven’t spent that much and that is for sure,as I stated I don’t want us to go all bonkers and spent lots of money on players like Shitty Chelski,all I’m saying is that we need to improve our squad that’s all!
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6888205,00.html
3 simple words. What a cunt.
What you don’t know is that American Football right now is on a lock out(no football this year). Thats the reason for the lowering of ticket prices. They want to make sure they sell tickets even if there isn’t a product to sell. Granted what they’re doing to the club is worrying, you have no clue what is happening over here.
Paddy Crenard reckons that this side can emulate the 92 team. He would have seen a lot of the youth sides and its very encouraging to hear. I wasn’t even born when the 92 side won the youth cup. So I can’t really gauge and make comparisons with the two. But I would be shocked in some of the current crop don’t go on and play in the first team for years to come!
@NotoriousRedDevil
Not just any cunt, but a stinking cunt.
Can’t wait for Saturday to beat Everton and silence idiots like Szczesny and Cech !!!!
Fuck off Platini you cunt. Keep your big fucking nose out. Corrupt bastard.
Yeah we were in the market for Benzema .
I liked Rodwell 12 months ago but he is no better than Cleverley or Tunnicliffe or Morrison at that age. Him or Young or Henderson won’t be at United next year, likewise Charlie Adam. Just MY opinion of course. None of these would help us in anyway.
I’ll admit I dont follow the kids. Its a bit difficult when you don’t have MUTV and getting to and from Altrincham is a pain. I only know stuff from what some of the guys here post. But I will definitely be going the Youth Cup Final. Hopefully Tuncliffe and Pogab can break through in the next couple of years.
huzi and King Eric – United I thought were interested but I do not think united were detirmined to buy the guy the same with torres nothing more than an interest, was he better than rooney and berbatov at the time nope and he still is not, he is still strugling in la liga, now if he is still strugling in a lightweight league god help him in the premiership. I do think it is a mystery how the last 2 transfers we have not even look to strengthen the engine room.
But like you say King Eric – about rodwell Cleverley or Tunnicliffe or Morrison, benzema was not better than the likes of rooney and berbatov, and his form for the virus has proven to be the case. I do think we missed a trick on schneider, for someone to play more inside has I do think he can play in CM.
@Notorious Devil
Guess that Barca arse licking fucking corrupt mumbling French twat is at it again,goodness that cunt irks me,he should just fucking shut his mouth,all he does is run his mouth!
I hope Sir Alex can hit him with a comeback,that cunt knows nothing about football he’s just a filthy political UEFA president,what a moron
fergie is the boss
Benzema is no longer struggling in La Liga… he’s hit a bit of form
21 goals so far this season.
Ticket prices are driven by demand, end of. The Glazers may be leeches, but they’re not idiots. I’d like to know if anyone thinks a “buyer with bottomless pockets” would lower prices? Say, the Qataris come in, people with so much money that the odd billion here or there literally means nothing. Does anyone think they would lower ticket prices? Why would they do that? And how would it benefit those fans who already can’t get in because there simply aren’t enough seats?
I am not defending anyone. But so long as demand for tickets is greater than the supply of seats, ticket prices won’t come down.
Is there any evidence that if SAF had unlimited funds, he would use them? If he had Shitty’s bank account, what do people think he would with it? Or, to put it another way, to what extent is he pursuing the “youth policy” only because he doesn’t have money to compete for established players?
Again, not arguing. I am genuinely interested in what people think about those questions. I think it’s a bit of both: he really doesn’t have the money to compete with the likes of Shitty but even if he did, I don’t think he would. I reckon he’d stick with the youth that are coming up, and maybe supplement them with 1 or 2 experienced, established players. (Which he might do anyway this summer, though we’ll see.)
The Glazers are way too stingy and greedy to splash the money like Shitty (even they had that sort of money, which they don’t). But I don’t think it makes much difference. I genuinely believe SAF would be more concerned if the owners had camel-loads of dough and expected him to spend it — “Sir Alex, it’s three years since we won the Champion’s League. And last year we actually dropped to second in the Premier League. This is not good enough. So we want to know why aren’t you improving the squad when there’s no practical limit to the funds that are available?”
People assume that the only reason Sir Alex isn’t out in the transfer market spending large is because he doesn’t have the money. They assume that because the Glazers won’t fund him, therefore he has to do it “on the cheap” by developing our own talent. But I am not convinced of that. I think the Glazers would stop him but they don’t have to, because for reasons of his own, this is how he wants to play it anyway.
Benzema has 10 league goals from 13 starts. Not bad, for someone who’s struggling.
Ryandunny – is anyone convinced in spain he is the real deal, since the virus still think buying more strikers is the answer. Despite the fact they can stick ronaldo upfront also, still I am not convinced with benzema he is a top quality forward, He is ok nothing that is wowing anyone
Benzema is doing really well under Jose more dangerous than i’ve seen him in a while. Still don’t want him here though. I believe Chicharito is better. All chicharito needs to do is develop the outside the box shooting and he is complete. He will be so unpredictable just like Rooney because he has a bunch of tricks up his sleeves. Hoping the same for Hernandez too.
StatesideAussie – fergie has splashed the cash in a phew transfer windows, like 93 2001 2002 2007 and 2008, so he does like to buy big. Fergie always said he likes to mix it up with youth and established players, that is how he has won the trophys. He has never done it always on the cheap that is not his style, but since the parasites have come in his transfer policy has changed. Is it for the better we dont know, one thing is for sure? if we do not sign a midfielder and a GK we know there is no money available
where did it change?
He spend big in 2007 when the glazers were already at the club.
I think he’s saving money for the time scholes/giggs/vdS retire.
Now it’s time to spend.
So far there are no hints if we have money or not.
I hate glazers to death but they are great businessmen and I don’t think they would risk United to miss CL or anything like that.
@Hammons
Funny how i think it is the undereducated gun-wielding bible-brandishing ignorant Americans that give the rest of the country a bad name… kinda like the nitwit of an ex-president that ruined the world economy from 2000-2008.
FITB … yeah, you’re right, he has always mixed it up. But “mixing it” is the key. As you say, we’ll see. But I still think that having the funds is only part of it. Another part of it is whether the type of players he wants are actually available. He’s very picky, and that’s a good thing. I agree on the GK and a midfielder (and to be honest, that would just about do it for me). But I can’t see him paying a lot of money for anyone unless he’s convinced they are right. And the right people aren’t always available no matter how much money you have available.
I think we all agree about getting a top class GK. The midfield is a bit more complicated, though. My own view is that he might have been hoping that both Giggs and Scholes would hang around (in a useful way) until the youngsters start to come through, because they are ideal as “mentors”. But now I think the timing isn’t quite right. We know Giggs is extending, but I’m not convinced Scholes will play on next season, and this might force SAF’s hand.
Does SAF think the youngsters will be ready next year? Or will it take another year or two after that? At this stage, it looks unlikely the timing of that transition will happen just as he would have liked — it’s a year or two out. Consequently, I think there is a need to bring in someone with experience and status to play that role, not only of driving our midfield as Giggs and Scholes wind down, but also to act as mentors to the younger ones as they come into the team over the next 1-3 years. And that’s about how long it might take before the transition is complete — a year or two of increasing exposure while they gain experience, and then another year or so before they fully take over the reins. Just my take on it.
King Eric – Hello mate. That Platini is a flopsy haired big nosed fucking cunt and as you rightly said, a corrupt bastard as well. Listening to that scum bastard on his soapbox commending the punishments and calling Fergie, ‘Alex Ferguson’. It’s Sir Alex Ferguson to you, you cunt, he was knighted over 11 years ago. I never forget the time he was actually going to look into Lille’s complaints about Giggs free-kick winner which prompted those childish idiots to walk off the pitch in protest.
On the topic of Benzema, yeah we was in the market for him, but after seeing him walking on to the pitch at Real Madrid like a rude boy for his unveiling, I’m glad we didn’t sign him, the fucking clown. Not questioning his ability, but he loves himself, that’s not the sort of player I would want at United.
None of those players you mentioned would improve what we already have at United. As I said mate, we only need two signings, a goalkeeper and a CAM to supplement the promotion of youth (Tunni, Morrison and Pogba) and the return of Cleverley, Welbeck and Macheda. If we can achieve that, then that’s us sorted for the next 5 years at least. Let the other small time clubs make wholesale changes to their squads with big signings, they still won’t be a match for us mate.
It would have to take a good old fashioned Glazer debate to bring me out of retirement.
I’m expecting another freeze on my season tickets this year, which in real terms will represent a cut of around 7% over 2 years – not bad when you consider how everything else is going through the roof.
Glazers showing that they are listening to the Bucs supporters should give us cause for optimism around our own prospects. Bucs fans enjoy indifferent performances and more than their fair share of defeats week in week out, whilst we on the other hand have to endure a Champions League Semi and the nightmare of closing in on a record haul of titles. I for one demand a refund!
How the hell is everyone anyway? It’s been a while.
Thoughts on Everton?
Thoughts on the BBC drama ‘United’ coming up on Sunday?
FITB 19:02 What exactly do we know then? We will know exactly nothing if we are unable to sign a big money keeper or top end midfielder. We will never know who was courted and we won’t know why we didn’t get them. In my view, the only thing we can ever know is that the club, from a footballing perspective, is trying to bring in lads who will complement out syste.
Last summer I was saying that we would never ever sign either a german or spainish #1 or #2. In the last 10 years, when was the last no1 playing outside of either countries top 4-5 clubs? Maybe Jens Lehmann was the only one. Never happened in spain that I recall. Reyna is at best 3rd choice. Neuer, wants to stay in Germany, seems to have said no to us, Adler has fallen off the radar? De Gae is being pipped as a future spanish #1 (who knows on that) but absolutely knows he will reduce his chances if he leaves spain. As I predicted, we look to have no chance on any of your top list of keepers. So what then, a self fulfilling prophecy? We couldn’t land Neuer so that means what. It don’t mean crap, that’s what. What would you say if De Gae said he wasn’t offered a proper contract (would you believe DeGae?) What if SAF said that DeGae didn’t come because he wanted guarantees as to playing time (though SAF would never release a statement of the sort even if true). Fact is. There is absolultely no way to know why we haven’t signed someone, either for lack of a proper fit OR a lack of funds. From my perspective, I think it is more down to a lack of a proper fit. But hey, that’s just me.
***is trying to bring in lads who will complement our system of play**** sheesh
Neuer is a smokescreen. He was always going to Bayern. If we wrap up the De gea signing, that will be a real coup for us. If we don’t, VDS might have to be persuaded to stay on for another year. Or maybe Rio can realize his dream, of going into goals for United. He will have to fight Sheasy for that position.
Which ever goalie we sign has big gloves to fill. Its not going to be a guaranteed success. Barthez was world class and supposed to be the solution when we signed him but other than his first season for us, was a bit of a clown. I don’t know who is good that we can realistically get. I’m just going to wait and see, I more worried about midfield. We definitely need one in the middle.
@ King Eric. Read your post on the Schalke thread, £7 for some fags is extortionate, the reason why I packed it in. Need to hang in there mate 5 weeks is a great start. Its been 4 months since I smoked anything, but now the suns back out I won’t lie I miss the rizlas and Marlboro country.
Them cunts at the FA have responded to my email with regards to dalglish telling wenger to piss off,
there email is as follows………………………………….the set of twats!!
Dear David
Thank you for contacting The Football Association.
No action will be taken against Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish following their match against Arsenal on 17th April.
The FA have received many emails from fans asking us to take action against Mr Dalglish in the same way we did against Wayne Rooney recently.
The clear distinction to be made in the Wayne Rooney case is that the language used was directed specifically at a television camera lens, whilst clearly audible to the viewing public. We will always take a view on every incident reported to us by match officials, who also have the ability to apply Law 12 in relation to insulting and abusive language or gestures.
The FA values the opinions of football supporters and we thank you for getting in touch with us to share your views.
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Platini suck a dick you fat Mr Potato Head! Same goes for the FA.
Instead of talking about SAF and how Rooney swore down a feckin camera how about you address the following:
Two footed challenges that have the potential to end careers post match.
Stamping out racist chanting in Spain, Italy, and the Eastern Block.
Dealing with clubs who’s fan shine lasers on to the faces of football players.
Bringing in some help for the referee like goal line technology.
The money grabbing bar stewards owners who use football clubs to take money away from the game.
The average fan being priced out of the game.
Go do something to really help the game rather than talking about shit that don’t matter.
Rant Over!
Oh and force the greedy bastard owners to sell any debt on to the fans! Atleast we’d have a say in matters then. Feckin cnuts. Yes I’m still ranting!
Platini is Blatter’s bitch. Nothing will change, while those two are in charge. Everyone thought Platini would be different form Blatter. No, he’s the fucking same.
When the club needs to spend, we’ll spend. Do you know what Fergie is thinking? No, you don’t.
Yes, we all see a weak midfield, but how many of us have won 11 league titles? Fergie is the man and I’ve read that the reason he didn’t sign a midfielder this summer is because he thought Hargreaves would be back. If he had been successful in his comeback in November, then we’d of had no problem. However I think we’ve seen this year Hargreaves won’t make it back and I fully expect the money to come out.
You also can’t under estimate our youth team. Fergie has spoke of the talent in our youth team and maybe just maybe we could see a few gems coming through the ranks.
It confuses me when people criticise the Glazers for a lack of spending, we’ve never been massive spenders like Chelsea or City and big signings don’t always work out, ask Veron and Berbatov.
I’d much rather us bring through players through the youth system or sign young players like the Da Silvas and Hernandez who can be brought up with the United mentality.
honestly i don’t get too aggravated when some guy goes to the media and slates us. We are Manchester United. We don’t care what the media says about us and so we barely ever react to it. So if platini supoprts the ban then FINE let him support it. Who cares about that stuff anyways. All we care about is winning.
*from*
Also if we were really tight for money, would Fergie sign Bebe for £7.5m without ever seeing him play?
Willierednut. Cheers mate. Neuer was always a smokescreen. My point exactly. Fans are getting their undies in bunch over something a journo or agent stirs up. We don’t know anything. My point is that this hysteria of fans saying money is not available just can’t be substantiated. We sure shouldn’t bet that anyones list list of top recruits has any truth to it. Who would have predicted that Cantona would be a United player, who would have predicted Rio’s transfer. Berbatov we know about, and how painful was that. The whole nightmare insured that the player was off his game for 2 years. I just think it is best to believe fergie and gill when they say there is money for transfers. Now we just have to wait for the alignment of about 14 star systems and look to a day where the temperature, precipitation and barometric pressure are all predicted in the writings of some 12th century Cistercian monk. THEN my friend, then, we might just get our man!
@veek
Tell him how it is. What a dumbfuck.
Yeah, greed corps like the Glazers make Americans look bad.
Evening all true REDS
Not sure why we are getting worked up over that idiot Platini, great player he may have been and I did watch him live but as an official he is a mockery and a true dick head. Him and Blatter deserve each other
I totally agree
Cool transfer talk I will read back all the post.
1) Keeper looks like the young Spaniard, the German to see Old Trafford in all it’s Glory Glory soon.
2) Jack Rodwell, with the UK player rule in effect, and can fight it out with the young mid fielders coming up.
3) Sanchez is my personal preference maybe because he said his dream club is Man Utd and he can play Right and Left Wing as well as CAM and withdrawn striker and just my gut telling me, he and Rooney would play well together and keep him from Chelski or Man Chity.
4) A young defender who can play cb as well as fb and emergency cdm a younger more talented version of John O’Shea
5) Schnieder for the fuck of it.
Zibbie, how are you mate… We have had the talk about your user name Zibbie and you know the word Zibbie cracks me up…
Anyway Zibbie, take care and all the best Zibbie
Thanks Cedars
Really quiet here tonight…. Hibernation mode everyone?
StatesideAussie – the greatness of ferguson is he learns by mistakes, no manager can go through management and not risk signing anyone. Some say they are not a right fit, but fuck they got to try and put in bids for the possible transfer targets. 2009 was still the time has the likes of schneider was on the market, hey even kaka we could get if the virus decide they do not want him, and we can try and get some cut price of 19 to 24 million for him you never know got to try.
FletchTHEMAN – there are players on the market like the responce I sent to stateside, you could look to the ajax no1 and maybe kaka, that would be a gd summer for the club. But if united lose kuszszec VDS scholes and hargreaves united have got to really look to strengthen the squad
lawman10 – I got exactly the same letter today mate:
Dear Kingsley,
Thank you for contacting The Football Association.
No action will be taken against Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish following their match against Arsenal on 17th April.
The FA have received many emails from fans asking us to take action against Mr Dalglish in the same way we did against Wayne Rooney recently.
The clear distinction to be made in the Wayne Rooney case is that the language used was directed specifically at a television camera lens, whilst clearly audible to the viewing public. We will always take a view on every incident reported to us by match officials, who also have the ability to apply Law 12 in relation to insulting and abusive language or gestures.
The FA values the opinions of football supporters and we thank you for getting in touch with us to share your views.
Kind regards
Gary
Customer Relations Team
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Fucking cunts the lot of them.
Ah MUST! How quickly I get tired of listening to those boring *****.
The days of getting a season ticket for 300 quid and seeing 19 games on the cheap are long gone.
Get over it.
FITB
Kaka is way past his best mate, do not want him anywhere near OT
noticed at the top notorious stated bucs lose glaziers money actually in the nfl all the money is put in a pot and split up so it doesn’t matter how big or small the team is every team gets the same share
@veek: amazing the twit in office now spent more of American money than any of his predecessors. Kind of like how glazer is operating Manchester United. Let’s not bring in any of your “granola” point of views on bring guns or religion into this ….
Again I will ask, where on earth is smartalex?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1379375/Wesley-Sneijder-wanted-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Manchester-United-plot-25m-raid-Inter-Milan.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
For all you Sneijder lovers.
willierednut
Music to my ears
Ya where is smartalex…. kinda getting worried now :S
Willie
Not a ‘lover’ here buddy
Would have his babe though!
FITB … I’m not suggesting he shouldn’t risk signing anyone at all. Sure, SAF learns from his mistakes, but what has been his experience in this area?
1. SAF has made mistakes signing guys who didn’t fit — not many, but a few that will haunt him.
2. There may be guys that he could have signed and didn’t, which he regrets. But it’s hard to argue that missing those guys were “mistakes” that cost us greatly.
3. For the most part, when he has been careful to choose guys he was confident would fit, that has worked out well.
4. When he looks around and sees what other managers do — buying up ‘name’ players simply because the player is a ‘name’ and the manager does have the money — what conclusions can he draw from the way that has worked out?
Like you, I am certain that SAF wants a mix of youth and battle-hardened experience — more youth, perhaps, but he also knows they need guidance on the field. And that’s why I think the situation with Scholes and Giggs is key. Even if Scholes continues next year, I gotta be honest and say it’s highly unlikely that we’ll get two more years out of him. I don’t think we will get two more out of Giggs either, and certainly not three.
Of course, Carrick and Fletcher might still be around and their experience is essential. And Anderson should be in his prime a year or two from now, and will have great experience. Vidic and Rooney, too, so there will still be experience in the team when those youngsters come through, but I still think he will look to boost the midfield with one established campaigner (I’m not going to throw names around, though), so long as he can get the type of player he wants. I am certain that not even with all the money in the world, would he buy anyone unless he thinks they are “right”.
But I’d be surprised if he goes for more than one, because then he runs the risk of making the youngsters stand in line for their turn.
StatesideAussie
Great post buddy, but I disagree…. I doubt that SAF will be haunted by anything. The man is a genius
Cedars … well, I did pause over that word “haunt”, so yeah, maybe “regret” would have been better. Not suggesting he lost any sleep over any of them, but certainly there were guys who didn’t work out. But they are no more than minor blemishes in a long, proud record of getting it right, and that’s because he won’t compromise on what he wants.
How long since smartalex was around? Did he say he was going to be away?
got over us yet lads ?
Mr Mancini … who would that be?
StatesideAussie
Well said buddy………… Regarding smartalex, have not heard anything and I do miss him.
mr mancini
Get over what exactly? You are funny I must admit and whenever you come on here you do bring a smile on my face at least
@Mr Mancini must change your handle alot wonder what the name will be next year after city lose the cup final and you lose your job, you must be having a laugh like utd give a fuck about the fa cup.know its a big deal for city,forgot is it 35 or 36 and counting?,don’t know if you’ve noticed we have bigger fish to fry,sad little man.
wayne has spoken……….. We bow down in honor sir.
Give them hell mate
Why is a Shity fan on a United blog this late?
Why have all his clients abandoned him?
Why is he celebrating that 1.1 billion pounds of investment has only led to one FA cup final?
Why is he such a dumb fuck and he can’t realize that the biggest game of the last 4 decades for him, was the 3rd most important game of the past week for us?
CedarsDevil – you never know really, the virus do sell players on the cheap get a gd enough price and he could add more quality in our midfield and goals that is missed
StatesideAussie – We do not want to end up like arsenal;, where we are overun with rookies and very phew experienced players that have quality, or lightweights. Look at our championship winning sides, 60% of the side was about in 25 26, 10% of the side were in their 30s and the rest were 24 23 and under. that 20% would take over the guys in their 30s and the cycle continues. We do not want an entire squad of players the same age, or we end up like chelsea where we have to replace them all in one go.
i realise city fans don’t go out much but there is something in england called trains, its the fastest and most comfortable way to travel especially when the motorways are filled with hicks on a day trip
mr mancini
Not really bothered with answering your points but again I will say you are an amusing little piece of shit that I honestly look forward to your posts here. On behalf of United supporters I must thank you and your pathetic excuse of a football club for providing us so much amusement….. Football would really be boring with out a silly excuse for a club like yours to laugh at
Costas
Guess we are singing the same tune!
His post got deleted. I suppose, they’re really not here.
Have I fucked off the little piece of City shit?
Costas and Cedars,
Heard the stir up about Wesley Sneider? I know you lot will be coming to more games if Wesley comes to United. Most would think it was the footy, but mmmmmmy. I say is lady is worth throwing in another 10M to the asking price. OT would be sold out for the next 5 years just with the hope of seeing those two!
Stir fry.
@Cedars
He came here to take the piss, but he magically disappeared. Just like his companions do for their team’s home games.
@Fletch
Hi mate. Not particulary interested in Sneidjer, but I am probably in the minority here. I thought Van Der Vaart’s lady was the real knock out.
I actually prefer some Tandoori grilling –
Goodnight Manchester United
Sleep well you wonderful Reds…
@Costas, both are hot as anything man. Go see for yourself. ;p
fitb, it’s not like we are the bottom of the “away league” are we? As I mentioned in another post, it has been a while since we had the whole bottom half of the league being as close as this. In seasons past, we would usually have a team already confirmed for relegation by this juncture. This just proves that every other team has indeed gotten stronger, and most likely at home too.
Yes, our away performances leave much to be desired, relative to other seasons, but this might just be the trend for the next few seasons, if the promoted teams indeed fare as well as Blackpool has done.
I see that cunt howard from the sun is at it again. Says if jose was here in ingerlund at the rentboys or arsenal the league would be sewn up weeks ago. Can’t resist a dig saying“poorest united team“. Err so does that mean the rest of europe is shit considering we are two games away from our third final in four years you horrible bastard? Sick to fucking death of nomark cunts running this club down. Cannot fucking stand we can prove them all wrong again. Fuck off about mourinho. Fergie had his number once we had gone through transition. Sick of hearing “arsenal or chelsea REALLY don’t ewant this title“. Yes they do they just aint good enough. Mark my words the cunts will devalue this title win if we do it which we will. They will say we have won it by default and slag the team off. Funny how at every level united are doing the business. A point off winning reserve league for third year on spin and into the youth cup final having hammered the rentboys. They have no idea of the talent we have here. That sun paper is a fucking disgrace. Cannot believe some cockney smug arrogant bastard called me a weirdo then hung up sharpish. A real professional outfit. Hope they die the like of custis bros, howard and that rentboy beasly. Finally the arsenal cunt howard has a pop at united fans. Saying their is a flaw in united fans claim that balotelli kissed his badge infront of them. He says the fans had all left the ground ages before. Fuck off. Now slagging off the best away fans in the league. Fucking bitter , jealous horrible toerags.
Antonio valencia. “This is football , you get stuck in“. Excellent interview. He says he was offered chance to go to spain for a break but he wanted to stay and keep getting fit. I am glad he is back. A proper united player.
I strongly believe fergie will sign sneijder.The reports in italy has been saying that sneijder would love to play for united.I think he will be a great buy.
The only problem i feel with him is his age.He is 27 and i dont know how long he could perform.But with the talent he has he can easily play great for us for atleast 5 years.And he will also help us win the champsleague.So it would be great.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/187419/Darren-Fletcher-is-back-for-Manchester-United/
Just at the right time.
Ash, Sneijder is still 26. He’ll turn 27 during the summer recess, so maybe I’m splitting hairs. But let’s put it this way: he is nearly 3 years younger than Carrick, 6 months younger than Fletcher, 16 months older than Rooney, and less than four years older than Anderson. Is he (a) right for us, (b) available, and (c) affordable? I don’t know. But his record is good, he seems a class act, he has vast experience, and age-wise he should just be entering his prime.But then they say de Rossi is available and interested too. So who knows? Fuck I hate the transfer window lol
we def need a midfielder.. but guys not someone like sneider !! not someone who is a CAM..when u guys will realize that a 4-4-2 formation doesnt require a CAM.. in a 4-3-3 formation the AM is required.. he’ll help the 3 upfront..but in a 4-4-2 we need a CM or a CDM someone like makelele who can tackle get the ball back and has a great passing ability and deliver the ball to our strikers or wingers..we need someone who can boss the midfied like shweinsteiger or De rossi someone with their characteristics
We need:—>>>>>
3 Points against Everton…..
Don’t try to predict the future, for all you know, instead of Sneidjer, Fergie is scouting some unknown player from Antarctica…..who’ll kick everyone’s ass.
SAF has been in this field for a looong time. He knows what’s best for the team. No point guessing his moves.
I still can’t make up my mind about what our team needs at the moment. On paper, it looks like we just need to get a CDM and we’ll be fine but there have been occasions this season when we’ve looked completely bereft of ideas, especially when Nani and Valencia have a bad day.
Sneijder looks like a perfect solution, though I would have no qualms if we settled for Sahin or Costa instead.
Whatever anyone thinks Fergie will do he will invariably do the opposite! He is the master of such tactics and probably has already lined up his next masterstroke. He knows what he needs to do and I’m pretty sure he can relied upon to do it!
Love live king Fergie!
Scotty Parker is writers player .
Guys sneijder would be a perfect buy and i say this because
a)He is a creative attacking midfielder and this is what we are missing.
b)He like rooney and ronaldo is a match winner on his own.
c)He could be our next number 7
d)The most important he has a great attitude and love for the game.
The guy is a class and a typical united player.
Cleverley would still be a very important player even if we but sneijder or sanchez.
Honestly i want sneijder to come.
I may be slammed for what i am going to write but Guys i wouldn’t want scholes to continue next season.(Hell its very tough writing this)
I say that with a reason.Now we have to accept the truth that depending on scholes is not right and if we fans ask him to stay for one more year then the glezers will again not give any money for fergie to buy players.And same goes for hargo.
Scholes is the best midfielder i have seen but the time has come where we should let him retire and promote a youth player or buy a player.Its no point having scholes and also buying a player.
But whatever SCHOLES=LEGEND
It is called supply and demand. As long as United isn´t an old Former Soviet team we have to stick with it. If anything the prices should go up til that point it is about 95% full every game. That would tell u that the Glazers are smart buisnessmen.
I don´t like them either because of all the debts they pile up at United, but they could be a lot worse f they just wanted to suck out every penny from the fans.
Smart alex this Smartalex that….sniff….no fucker missed me then ……bunch of cunts…
Of course we missed you TonyBee, glad you got the smilies sorted … lol
@dela,
Once Cleverley and Welbeck returns to the team, we’ll have a few more options on the sides.
And hopefully, Obertan will have matured further, and is ready to start competing for a place on the bench. He and Bebe are playing regularly for the reserves, and it looks like they are getting too good for the reserves league.
They’ll need playing time to get used to hearing 76000 voices in true Dolby surround – not everyone can take that kind of expectation.
TonyBee … welcome back. Now tell us, what have you done with SmartAlex? lol
Right readressing this situation. The prices at OT are sharply increased compared to 10 years ago but so is the minimum wage and unemployment benefit. Manchester is on the up, or has been on the up from the heady Thatcher days. Generally in terms of everything else a Manchester United home ticket takes less in percentage of your weekly income than it did 10 odd years ago. Lower the prices at OT, fuck off, why dont you earn more money. There are jobs and opertunities in life a plenty now. It takes no effort to pinch shit and sell it online if need be.
Tampa on the other hand have had a rapid decline in fortunes and the reccession in the US has hit them a 1000 times harder than here. No health care to mention, next to no unemployment money available, very low lower end job pay (most people needing two jobs). And for those that earned their own home has seen them drop to 20% of their worth less than 5 years ago. Once more the team is shit and cannot command high ticket prices like Manchester United can here.
Sorry Scott this seems a bit of a no story here mate. look at the wider picture, we have a reccession in Britain but its nowhere as tough as it is in the lower end in the US.
Why on earth would the Glaziers drop ticket prices when they know darn well that they will get snapped up by Corporate dudes and travel agents. Any increase will only get passed on to the 50,000 or so Japanese tourists and day trippers whatever leaving the the true fans to suffer. Why kill the goose that lays the golden egg ? They will simply carry on stuffing their pockets with OUR dosh! Thanks SAF for causing all this by the way, crossing the Magnus race horse owners who then collected the shares then sold them off to , yes, you guessed it, the Glaziers. Sorry, but its true.
And you’re on talking terms with the those racehorse owners who swear to the gods that they are in it for the club and not the dosh? Sure sure.
SAF is to blame? Piss off.
The “Fergie is to blame for the Glazers taking over United theory” Is not an convincing argument. Fergie didn’t float United on the Stock Market, Martin Edwards done that. I’m sorry, but once that happened, we were always open to this kind of takeover. He could have handled the situation better, certainly. But IMO, that wasn’t the sole reason, for the Glazers buying out United.
FFS
When Louis was in charge he got stick.
When his boy took over he got shit left right and fucking center only to be held up with a little squel of delight when Knighton used United for a bit of self promoting. Bell end
Then Edwards was ridiculed for floating United as everything was uncertain.
Then we had Kenyon and he was the golden goose, shame he didnt have a golden arsehole because all he produced was shite.
Then we all heard what we need is a powerful owner so we can compete with mega bucks Chelsea.
Then we got those owners and everyone throws a fucking wobbler.
Shut up you arses. Your never bloody happy. Watch the games, enjoy or Fuck off. Sir Alex and the players have given you every fucking oppertunity to do just that. Get a grip
A fair roll of the dice and this years title would be 5 from 5 instead of 4 from 5 So we have hardly been held back from competing.Kind of rubbishes the bad owners notion I think.
Willie is right. Once the club became a public company and was floated on the stock exchange, it was open season — it was up for grabs to the highest bidder. In 1989, Edwards tried to sell the club for 20 million but failed. When it was floated in 91, it raised less 7 million. Now, 20 years later, it is valued (by Forbes) at 1,120 million — 160 times as much (1,600% growth). Even taking the loathsome debt into account, in business terms this is hardly a failure. And in sports terms, we all know our track record since then, and we know our track record since the Glazers took over. Yep, a trophy cabinet bursting at the seams. Does that make the debt right? No. Does it make the Glazers nice guys? No. But at least they’ve had the sense to leave Sir Alex alone. It could be worse. Like Goat says, enjoy the football!
RE: The Buccs
Its Apples and Oranages for the following reasons
1) Wage Caps/Spending Caps – Being a sport played in basically a single country that doesn’t have to worry about a Global economy the American Football Economy can be controlled with ease.
2) TV Coverage – While you get the national coverage of NFL games its the local rights that are an important part of a NFL teams income. The NFL however have strict rules on TV coverage in Local markets that see TV Blackouts implemented in the local market IF the stadium is sold out.
3) Spreading Success and wealth – THE NFL is setup to spread the wealth and spread the success more evenly. When you do well one season you are then given major handicaps the next season and you can see teams go from being one of the best to one of the worst. And with no religation there us little ‘risk’ from allowing this. Football is all about success and that requires spending. And with the threat of religation all clubs have to spend even if that means risking their long term future.
We also have to remember that NFL tickets make Football tickets looks like pocket money.
- A regular season has TEN home games
- The staduim has 240 seating sections
- They have just TEN sections at the $35 a game ($350 for a regular season)
The season ticket prices are
$350 (£210)
$520 (£314)
$600 (£363)
$720 (£436)
$790 (£478)
$890 (£538)
$990 (£599)
$1950 (£1180)
$2950 (£1786)
$3950 (£2392)
If we adjust them for an 19 game home season as we have in football thats
$665 (£399)
$988 (£589)
$1140 (£684)
$1368 (£817)
$1501 (£893)
$1691 (£1007)
$1881 (£1121)
$3705 (£2242)
$5605 (£3382)
$7505 (£4541)
And while I have given the rough UK value you have to remember due to differences in economy, cost of living and wages the exchange rate actually lowers the value. It would be closer to the truth if you changed the $ to £
Oh and the above amounts are AFTER they dropped 30% off them and they were far from the most expensive NFL team last season .
@fergie is the bos
The bid for Benzema was serious. Lyon confirmed they had a bid from us before Real had made any approach. And SAF himself confirmed the Villa bid that matched Barcas. The Season before the Benzema Bid we also agreed a fee for Silva until Valencia had a last minute change fo heart and demanded much more for him.
@Hargo’s Curly Hair
People like you piss me off. If you are going to make statements and help ‘enrage’ the situation with claims about them being leeches you should atleast make sure your statements are correct.
We are NOT their main source of income. Infact they haven’t made a single penny from United at this point. They make more money out of the Buccs than they make out of us although their main source of income are their Malls (I know that Andy Green tried to make these look like they were doing bad but he was being slightly misleading. The ‘parent’ company officially only made 10mill but the cash profit made across all the malls is much higher. Each mall is a seperate company so while losses may come off the parent companies bottom line they don’t touch the profits of the other malls)
At the end of the day the money is available to be spent on transfers, if it wasn’t they wouldn’t have been leaving over 100mill in the bank. Its just not a good return, either they would have taken the dividends they could have taken OR they would have done what they did last quarter and bought some of the bonds with it as the interest on the money in the bank is less than the interest on the bonds
@FletchTHEMAN
As I posted above the evidence is actually that WE DO have a sizable transfer kitty. There is simply no other reason to have all that money sitting in the bank doing nothing
@Oscar Madison
I think it was Charlie Adam. There were alot of rumours on transfer dealine day and there was a user here posting about them BEFORE anywhere reported them. The last thing that the person posted was it had fallen through as the medical staff pulled the plug as there was a medical worry.
At the time everyone made out the person was a WUM however at the end of Feb there were reports in the newspapers about Blackpool being concerned about an injury he had struggled with all season and that he had been sent to see a number of specialists.
This makes me wonder if there was perhaps more to this persons claims than he was given credit for.
@fergie is the boss
He has splashed the cash when the Glazers have been in charge.
Berbatov
Anderson
Nani
Hargreaves
Carrick
Even Tevez cost us 10mill for a 2 season loan. Not to mention they did agree to pay the extra 25mill to buy him but Tevez turned it down.
We also bid
£38mill for Benzema
£35mill for Villa
£24mill for Silva
And even the likes of Smalling, Hernandez and Bebe while ‘cheap’ were hardly cheap for the level of players they were (Hernandez and Smalling now look bargins but they could have looked expensive)
wakey … “The NFL however have strict rules on TV coverage in Local markets that see TV Blackouts implemented in the local market IF the stadium is sold out.”
I think you mean: “The NFL however have strict rules on TV coverage in Local markets that see TV Blackouts implemented in the local market IF the stadium is ***NOT*** sold out.” It wouldn’t make sense to impose a TV blackout if the stadium is already sold out.
@StatesideAussie
Yeah I seem to have missed the NOT.
You need the cheap seats. You can’t defend the prices then complain about lack of crowd noise. It’s all very well filling your stadium with the obedient English middle class looking for entertainment until Wimbledon comes along, but the truth is, the atmosphere will never be rocking.
I would suggest a two tier pricing plan where those that happily cough up whatever is asked actually get their price increase. At least then, the silent plastics would be contributing something. These people repeatedly ignore Sir Alex’s calls for louder support, yet all they do is clap goals and mess on their smart phones in order to ensure their facebook artificial friends all know they’re at O.T. You’d then have the proper fans in the cheap seats, providing atmosphere and helping the team over the line through thick and thin.
I tried being middle class for a bit, didn’t like it.
@hargo’s curly hair
You’re right. Don’t listen to the Glazer donkeys. We are their main source of ‘blood’. Fucking neanderthal sad money worshipping has been cruising for a bruising fucking misplaced self confidence irrelevant cunts. Get the fuck away from Manchester United.
Oh, and Andy Green was right too. Their Malls are struggling . Yay!
@xol
Andy Green is only right about their malls if you take the simplistic and INCORRECT way of looking at them. They are structured through a parent company for TAX REASONS but are registered as setup as individual companies to protect the cash in each one to allow flexibility.
To keep things simple lets say we clone you
Xol1 sets up in a business to sell widgets to the public. Xol1 sets up a single company and with that company buys 5 retail locations
Xol2 sets up in the same business but he sets up a 6 different business. A parent company and then a different business for each location.
The results for both of you are
Location 1 – PROFIT 50
Location 2 – LOSS 30
Location 3 – LOSS 30
Location 4 – LOSS 30
Location 5 – PROFIT 20
Xol1 hence makes a loss of 20
Xol2′s parent company also shows a loss of 20
- NEITHER would pay any tax
The CASH for each however would be
Xol1 would have NO CASH in the business
Xol2 would have a CASH VALUE of 70 in his business’s
For XOL1 as its a single company any profit made in the two profitable locations would automatically have to support the loss making ones.
For Xol2 as they are separate companies the 3 loss making ones couldn’t touch the cash in the 2 profitable ones UNLESS Xol2 decided he wanted to prop them up.
Xol2 could then let the 3 that are making a loss goto the wall without losing the cash in the other 2. If Xol2 bought the locations making a loss without too much personal liability (ie it was bought on a mortgage with the least possible down payment as the Glazers did with all their malls) then letting them goto the wall could see Xol2 come out of the situation RICHER than when he went into it.
The fact that the parent company of the Glazers mall business made a profit in the climate we are in and when a number of the malls where borderline when they bought them let alone in the bade economy which saw them make massive losses tells you alot about the income that the successful half are pulling in. Letting the struggling ones goto the wall when they have very little liability in them rather than increasing the liability by pumping profits from elsewhere into them is the most sensible thing to do for them on a business pov and ensures they still make good cash profits from the mall business
RE: Cheap tickets
I’m curious have you actually ever been to Wimbledon for the tennis? If you had, especially on centre court when a Brit is playing or a popular player is playing you will know the last thing you could accuse them of being is silent. Yes there is a polite manner to the support as there are certain conventions when watching a tennis match BUT lets be honest whats wrong with that. Alot of what goes on by Football crowds isn’t needed (Rooney got banned for Swearing but imho whats more worrying for kids is when they attend live matches and can have 90 minutes of swearing by the fans to put up with.
The issue imho isn’t that they are middle class but that the club, supporters groups and fans in general don’t do enough to integrate them enough. After all these middle class people you look so down on aren’t even as high class people as you would see at Wimbledon who are expected to be reserved, they are skilled professionals who aren’t much different to you as a working class person (After all many people who will claim they are working class and will identify they are working class are actually Middle Class these days). More needs done to allow the ‘silent’ sections to get more involved.