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Too Good To Be True – Hargreaves Back For September?

It was a disappointing result on Owen Hargreaves’ début for Manchester United but his performance was top-notch. Not since Roy Keane had we seen a player boss the game as effectively as he did but unfortunately a deflected goal and missed sitters meant we were the losing team that day.

Whilst his performances remained at a high standard, it’s hard to feel as though we’ve really seen the best of him yet, with injuries cutting in to his playing time.

When fit, I think we have more or less got the complete team. I would love to see him starting every week in the centre of our midfield, driving the team forward and giving us that extra bit of grit we were missing on too many occasions last season.

However, after operations to both his knees, we had to accept the possibility that we’d never see him play at that high standard for us again, if at all. He’s the player we’ve been crying out for and it was gutting to contemplate the thought of not getting years of football out of him. There was talk of him not seeing any football in 2009 which put big doubts over whether he’d ever come back.

Good news yesterday though – Fergie reckons Hargreaves will be ready by September!

“I think we are looking at the end of September depending on how he reacts,” said Ferguson. “We are happy with his rehabilitation so far and while he won’t be ready to play in Munich, he will be able to train.”

Too good to be true?




 

97 Comments

  1. mctavish says:

    hope not, it’ll be like getting the ‘marque’ signing everyone’s been crying out for

  2. mctavish says:

    city beat 2 nil by the pirates with tevez sitting in the stands haha, get used to you stupid greedy cunt

  3. mdubya says:

    i love hargreaves but we need someone in the same mold as cover for him…and fletcher isn’t that sort of quality. if we just buy one guy like that and a bit of defensive cover i’ll be happy enough with our transfer business.

  4. kshetrajna says:

    love the player…A utilty player who has loads of talent…very rare indeed….Would have loved if he and fletch were the midfield for our champions league final in Rome.His abilities were sorely missed last season and with his return this season we could see one of the most complete teams ever…Berbas vision and skill…Owens goal scoring instincts…Valencia’s crossing ability…Hargos Midfield Commanding efforts…Rio and Vida’s defencive wall at the back…Evra/Da Silvas/Brown bombing down the wings…Oh and before i forget the most gifted player in a lon long time…Wazzza!!! WOW !!!! Bring on the season we are ready!!!

  5. Walker says:

    he’ll be ok

  6. KJ says:

    I cant wait!!! He’s a great player, he always has been! And hes exactly the type of player we need to get our midfield to full strength

  7. CJ says:

    I hope they don’t rush him. I’d rather him be out longer than coming back earlier than expected

  8. Mic says:

    I love Hargreaves, he can play at right back or in midfield and his crossing is second to none, not to mention he’s quality at free kicks, if he stays fit, I can see us challenging on all fronts again. If not, I can see us struggling, it defo puts us at a disadvantage.

  9. Kings says:

    I sincerely hope it is true and we get that bit of steel back in midfield which we sorely missed last season, especially in the European Cup Final. But I can’t help but feel that the operations on both his knees will take it’s toll.

  10. Trevor says:

    Some fans need a kick up their arses! It wasnt Owen Hargreaves Fault that Manchester United spent 17 mil on him! We choose to do so!

    It wasnt Owen Hargreaves fault that he has a specific Knee Problem which ment he Needed Surgery!

    Owen Hargreaves wants to play for Manchester United, We must remember that! The Question i ask myself is if Owen Hargreaves would have been fit for the Champions League Final would we have been able to cope with Inesta & Xavi… Well i think the answer to that would be yes!

    When Owen Hargreaves Returns from Injury if he is fully fit will he do well for us next year?…My answer would be yes!

    I just wish some of our fans would grow up and support or team Not pick at everything that isnt going right, isnt what they want! Life isnt always easy! Things do go wrong, so the best thing to do is grit your teeth and get on with it!

    Next season i think is going to be tough, not only loosing ronaldo but a change in formation! We also have to pick the lads confidence up a little, face it or not some have been soly reliant on Ronaldo to win games. Trusted in him, which they no longer can! It will take a few wins for them to beleive they can do it, if they beleive they can, i recon we still can win the league next year!

    One thing on our side is Fergusion! He has put together several differnt teams with differnt tactics and been sucessful!

    In fergie we trust!……..

  11. mctavish says:

    @trevor
    too fucking rite
    well said

  12. Trevor says:

    @mdubya

    After your comment about Fletcher i doubt your understanding of Football!

    At the end of last season Fletcher was amazing for us! If he had been in the Champions League final i think we would have played better!

    You have to hve all types of players in your team, The flair, The Skill, The quick, The Strong, The Tall, The Inteligent & The Hard working!

    Fletcher is Hardworking. He covers more Grass and Disrupts play which every team needs…

    Keane did it, Viera, Deshamps, Makalale, Mascharano, Barry.

    He is never going to be a creative midfielder…………. He is never going to be the 20 goal a season guy!…….What he will be however is a vital part of a team!! A winning team i hope!

  13. Red-Manc says:

    IMO when fit Hargreaves is one of if the not the best midfielder we have at this club in terms of effectiveness in tough matches. He’s a fantastic player and he proved that in his first season, we really missed a player like him in the big matches last season so it will be great when he is back to full fitness.

  14. Adopted Scouser 10 says:

    I Believe in Sir Alex Ferguson,
    the Father Almighty,
    Creator of Manchester United.

    I believe in Wayne Rooney,his only son,our Lord,our adopted scouser,
    sold by everton and hated by liverpool,
    who suffered during his Goodison days,
    saw the red light and;
    he descended to Manchester,

    On the 31st August 2004,
    we signed him from Everton,
    where he stunned the faithful
    on his debut,
    and may he continue to amaze
    us for many a year

    I believe in the Wayne Rooney
    the greatest footballer around
    the most passionate man around like,
    the effort on the pitch
    the kissing of the badge
    and the everlasting loyalty

    Wayne

  15. Costas says:

    There is no doubt that Hargo’s return is a bonus. I hope United fans are patient with him though. I expect him to become the Owen of old after the turn of the year.12 months is a long time out. Lets hope that Carrick, Fletch, Ando, Scholesy and Gibbo remaon fit until Christmas. No need to rush Hargo back.

  16. Drew Vader says:

    Rather have him sit out a little longer just to make sure everything is healed up. Would be gutted if he rushed back and just got fucked up even worse

  17. TonyBee says:

    Hargo will come back hungrier than ever… some of the posts on here today are from people that do not understand English football……you need a destroyer, a battler type player in your midfield and Fletcher stepped up to the mark last year, fair play to the lad, so now we will have two tough tacklers going at it in the midfield….
    I cant wait for next season……

  18. TheTipIsRed says:

    @ Adopted Scouser 10: Too clever for my morning coffee. Now I have to clean up my monitor and work space. Thanks.

    I don’t think it’s Sir Alex’s nature to rush things. He’s rather patient with injuries, especially long-term, potentially career ending injuries. But if we get Hargo back and fit after January for our customary post-Christmas push in the league, that would be beyond fantastic.

  19. javac says:

    Hargo should be ok. Not expecting to see the Bayern version of Hargo but yer, he’ll be a great addition. A lot is made of a possible lack of pace, but I reckon that if he has lost pace that it won’t be too detrimental to his game. Keane, Scholes, Butt, weren’t blessed with pace. King Eric, Ole and Teddy too lacked that extra yard. Looking around Europe at the best midfielders out there, Pirlo, the three Spanish mid’s – Xavi and Iniesta of Barca, and Xavi Alonso of Madrid ;) , too are all lacking in speed. Nobody mentions that when they argue that United’s original Owen is past it. He’ll be good for twenty to thirty games at the least next season. Enough to keep Fletch on his toes, aiding his development. If we get the two Owens that sparkled for England in their halcyon periods then we have nothing to fear but the bitters becoming more bitter. Also Consider that the best DM out there, Essien, has played only 38 games in the league for Chelsea in the last two years, of which only 11 was during the last season. In Hargo’s defence and using the same argument, should Chelsea fans say that the game is over for Essien too? Course not. Welcome back, Owen!

  20. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    i really taught the reason we didnt get a replacement is because he’s on a come back
    heres on of emilys first videos with not 1 but 2 chants about the man
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaFWCLqj4uQ

  21. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    and heres a 3rd hargreaves chant
    the best hargreaves chant there is
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeK64IvPe14

  22. belfast77 says:

    Great player when fit. He should be the first midfield player on the team sheet which he regains his fitness. He will allow Carrick and scholes to concentrate more on tearing apart the opponents defence. My only concern is Hargreaves knees wont hold up to be able to play in 2+ games a week.

  23. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    how good was anderson today
    his best game ever

  24. King Eric says:

    mdubya – Sorry mate but could not disagree more. Fletch was United’s best midfielder last season. He is more than good enough for cover. I would start him to be honest. Who would you suggest then?

  25. Tony Starks says:

    The scary thing is that we don’t really have cover for Hargreaves or Rooney.. Last year when Rooney got injured there was always Tevez, this year there is no one like that.. That is the biggest worry

  26. javac says:

    It’s good to see this forum talking about the players still at the club rather than going on about those that left the club.

    @King Eric – I would choose Hargo over fletch when fit, assuming we get 70% of the player he was, but I completely agree about Fletch last year, and Park too, my only concern is the long term; we can’t look back at one season and say that they are now up there with the best. It took the best years to cement their reputations. I read somewhere that Fergie feels that O’Sheasy just played his best season ever, too. This shows that the development at United of some of the younger lads is now reaching the peak of the players’ circle. So, I hope this is the golden period for O’shea and Fletch, and Rooney who looks ripe; “World player of the year” ripe for me.

  27. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    tont starks i could name you 4 player
    kiko
    wellbeck
    owen
    berba(who also was amazing today)

  28. smithy99 says:

    Can’t wait for the man Hargo to return. How we’ve missed him.

    A fantastic player with a fantasic engine.

  29. Tony Starks says:

    GHTT… All these players you mention are very different to Rooney.. I was never worried about this but I was just thinking that when Rooney is not playing there is no one up front who has that kind of energy..

    Anyway time will tell, I just hope hope hope he stays fit all year

  30. javac says:

    Tony, sorry but I disagree. Macheda, works his ass of and has a real tempo to his game. When he made his debut and came on the turf he buzzed, you just sensed that late winner was coming and let’s be honest here, it wasn’t a fluke of a goal either. I am more keen to see more of Kiko, Hargreaves and Wellbeck than any of our other signings this season.

  31. United4eva says:

    @Trevor

    Yes! Perhaps at Man Utd we’ve been spoiled by seeing all these child genius’. We’ve forgotten that by and large footballers reach their best age after 26 e.g. Lampard. Most people are not like Rooney and Ronaldo, lighting the world up in their late teens.

    Fletch is 25. 25! I remember Roy Keane at 25 still in the shadow of Paul Ince, still not ‘the presence’ in a team that if not for Cantona continually scoring after Christmas would never have caught Newcastle. Yet he was developing, getting better and slowly becoming the man we all remember from that famous Champions League semi final tie in Turin in the late spring of 1999.

    During the title run in Fletcher was arguably the best player not just at Old Trafford but in Britain. I’m with you mate. This coming season Fletch is gonna be immense.

  32. Tony Starks says:

    Hmm lets hope Kiko can fill the boots. I think he is the most similar out of our other strikers..

    But I won’t be surprised if Petrucci starts playing in that position occasionally towards the end of the season.. Any thoughts on that?

  33. evras left boot says:

    My god , this headline made my day

  34. javac says:

    Tony, I guess it depends on El hadj.. not wait, the other Diouf (thank God.) I hear that both Llajic and Diouf will be at OT for January. So it depends on who shines between now and then out of the other lads. I doubt we will need to play the kids (assuming Kiko and wellbeck are now ‘Seniors’ lol).

  35. Corea says:

    who the fuck is Essien ?

    I ordered new kit with Fletch on the back. If not the Arsenal game it would have been Hargo.

  36. aig alex is god says:

    kiko was a touch disappointing but tosic lookf gr8

  37. andsolskjaerhaswonit... says:

    Owen Hargreaves, What a Player!!
    Central Midfield, Right Wing, Right Back, hes got it all.
    I would happily take him playing 30
    games a season including the European ties and the crunch ties in the PL.
    Theres no need to rush him, A midfield with Carrick, Fletch, Ando n Gibo is equipped enough to cope.

  38. Nectarine says:

    I have a man crush on Owen Hargreaves. That’s how fucking good he is.

    Would love to see him back.

  39. Devilton says:

    Will be interesting to see how much pace he has lost due to the operations. He used to be quite nippy around the field (not Ronaldo fast, but quicker then Carrick and Fletcher) and i think it helped coupled with his tenacity and stamina to be able to track midfielders.

    Hope he comes back and remains injury free, but i’m not going to celebrate till he last an entire season. 2 major knee operations and more then a year out has to have an impact on a player. I’m hoping it won’t be one that ruins what could have been a great career.

  40. Devilton says:

    Team looks good today against Malaysia, but what on earth is going on in Goal…

  41. King Eric says:

    Javac – Oh absolutely mate, Hargo over Fletch. I just meant if Hargreaves wasn’t fit I would start Fletch in the majority of games alongside Carrick / Ando. After last season, his steady progression and the work he must have put in last summer to bulk up I think he deserves to start, especially in the big games. On topic I am starting to become a big fan of Gibbo when he plays his favoured central midfield role. Puts his foot in, can pass a ball and has a wicked shot. Didn’t dissapoint today either.

    Some fool rang MUTV the other night and said Hargo should play right back. Whilst I agree he can and has played that position to great effect his best role by far is defensive midfielder. Added to the fact we have plenty of candidates already at right back.

  42. lidija says:

    hargo’s return a real bonus, then no problem in the midfield.Ando did good today,they all did,should be a great season ahead of us :)

  43. King Eric says:

    United4Eva – Could not agree more about Fletch. Most people forget he is still only 25. Said a few weeks ago I really do think Fletch in the coming seasons is gonna be huge, a real driving force. Followed hopefully by Gibbo who is improving game by game. Not the “shite” midfield that so many people seem to think.

  44. Nectarine says:

    I’m not a big fan of Gibson. All he’s got is a wicked shot, with both feet. But I fail to see what his other strengths are. In a few of the matches he played last season he seemed a bit lost and unable to stamp his authority on games. I can see him being sold to a club like Wolves or Sunderland down the line and have a decent career though. Just not United quality.

  45. King Eric says:

    Nectarine – Fair enough mate but as I said he puts his foot in and can pass a ball. Sir Alex has not given him a 3 year contract for nowt. He will obviously struggle to “stamp his authority” on a game when he barely starts games.

  46. Trevor says:

    @United4eva

    In every football team there are unsung heros, Unfortunitaly some Fans are fickle!

    Just cause they cant remember them Scoring a Hatric………. Cant remember them Scoring a 40 yard Screamer! They slag them off!

    What they dont appreciate is that every team have attacking and defending players all over the pitch!! You have to have both to be sucessful!

    What fletch does is he frustrates the Creative & Goal Scorers in the other team by preventing them scoring as much as possible. In addition to this his aim is to win the ball as high up the pitch as he can to give it to our attacking players to do damage!!

    I bet if you asked Lampard, Fabregas, Gerrard, Alonso who they find it more difficult playing against, Carrick or Fletcher… they all would say fletcher!

  47. Tonka Norris says:

    With CR7 gone there are no automatic choices for midfield but you get the feeling Hargo will become one. Sure will be good to have some steel in our tackling again.

  48. Tony Starks says:

    Nectarine

    Must admit I agree with that assessment, it seems his thought process is just too slow for this level – Compare that with Scholesy, who even at this age knows what he’s going to do with the ball even before it gets to him..

    I feel he just has too many things that he needs to add to his game and not enough time on his side to do it…

    But I feel we will get a decent price for him if he doesn’t make it

  49. Trevor says:

    Some people Knocked the Selection of Owen of the No 7 Shirt. I think it is a bit Kidology by Fergusion to Use to get the best out of Owen..

    If we can get owen back to his best, He will be priceless for us this season!

  50. averio68 says:

    Thank You GOD!

  51. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    is the rematch on mondaqy fact
    or rumor

  52. belfast77 says:

    - United4eva
    “During the title run in Fletcher was arguably the best player not just at Old Trafford but in Britain. I’m with you mate. This coming season Fletch is gonna be immense”.

    Ill have some of what your drinking mate!!! Calling Fletcher the best player in Britain at the end of last season is one hell of a statement. Now i will give him credit for a great season but “best in Britain”, really?

  53. aig alex is god says:

    @ghtt.hiii its a fact and united wil leave on next sunday frm asia from china .that is on same day as we play our last match

  54. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    A.I.G.
    I thank you
    remember when we played this match

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG3GAxpHHNE
    city got beatin 2-0 and we’re lucky to get away with thay against them

  55. DanS says:

    I sincerely wish him all the best – I hope he has had bionic knees put in place which will last years!

    Looking forward to seeing you back Owen.

  56. aig alex is god says:

    ghtt.u r welcome.united have issued a statement.the match will be at 13 45 BST

  57. manutdchampions2008 says:

    Trevor and it is still a joke owen gets the 7 shirt. some of the greatest ever united players had that shirt and we give it to a has been.

    belfast77 I am one of fletchers biggest fans and in my view he was the best CM in the prem but he was not the best player in the prem. ronaldo for me was still the best player in britain last year.

    has for hargreaves do not buy into hargreaves returning I expect him to retire in a phew years. his injurys will get to breaking point. also united have only 2 proper midfielders in carrick and fletcher, anderson is out of position hargreaves is crippled and scholes has almost lost his legs. add the lack of goals in midfield and on the wings adn the poor quality in attack bar rooney, I do not rate berbatov or owen it may well be worrying times for united ahead.

  58. Tony Starks says:

    ^o no we are doomed^

  59. Nectarine says:

    @manutd2008

    What a doom monger you are. Can’t spell for shit either. Now go get your fucking shinebox!!

  60. belfast77 says:

    -manutdchampions2008

    Last season was definitely his best season so far, he didnt let us down in any game he played in and even scored some vital goals early in the season, i still think though if we have a fully fit squad he wouldnt start but thats just my opinion.

  61. manutdchampions2008 says:

    Nectarine its fans like you that can’t handle the truth. If I wanted to spell it rite I would have. The reality is this is one of the poorest united squads fergie has ever put together.

    Would Hargreaves Carrick scholes Fletcher Anderson nani park giggs tosic Valencia berbatov Owen get into Barcelona Chelsea Liverpool’s teams nope. Despite how good Fletcher is and carrick doing a good job they are limited.

    Because Liverpool have Alonzo mascherano Gerard and Torres.

    Chelsea has essien lampard ballack drogba and anelka

    bercelona have xavi iniesta toure messi and henry .

    Liverpool and Barcelona found out the united midfield out. Chelsea and real Madrid will add to that list with essien back. Madrid adding diarra ronaldo kaka and benzama united are only falling further behind the elite.

    United were getting away with it hoping ronaldo and Rooney would mask the midfield that is so average. Now with the only midfielder that could score over 20 a season has gone united maybe found out this season in the prem. Maybe the cycle of united is now over.

    Also where is the balance in this united team between midfield and attack? If Barcelona lost messi and only added Valencia and Owen the fans would scream bloody murder, no huge club decides to not getting a top class player after losing their best one. Now if anyone can come up with answers to try and say I am wrong you got to come up with some good points.

  62. United4eva says:

    @belfast77

    I stand by my statement. Fletcher was consistently good over the last month of the 08/09 and there is, from my viewpoint, an argument that he finished the season in as good form as anyone in Britain. Even in that time period when Cristiano began to get back into gear he still had his hissy fitting moments and times when his overall contribution was less than stellar. Fletcher however, from the time he dominated the Arsenal midfield in the first leg of the Champions leg semi at Old Trafford, never put a foot wrong. He became immensely important to the side and that was illustrated graphically in the Champions League final when Xavi and Iniesta took control of centre midfield in a way Cesc and co. simply hadn’t been able to when Fletch was on their backs.

  63. Tony Starks says:

    Oi ManU 2008!

    Worst squad ever?
    How many league titles in a row?
    How many Champions League finals in a row?

    How many years have you been a Red?

  64. Nectarine says:

    All I see is a bunch of ifs and maybes. It’s not about who has the best midfield or the best attack as separate units, it’s about having the best team. That’s what Fergie is the master at putting together. When we sold van Nistelrooy in 06 everybody was panicking and couldn’t see why we bought Carrick. Turns out Ferguson got it exactly right and since then Carrick has been one of our most consistent players and a major part of our revival. He made us tick in 06/07 and we wouldn’t have won the league without him.

    We have a good squad with lots of potential and the best manager in the world. He knows what the team needs better than anyone and has proved his doubters wrong time and time again, including me. But i’ve learned to trust him, 9 times out of 10 he gets it right. Of course you have the right to critisise him but why the incessant pessimism?

  65. Tony Starks says:

    This has been the most successful period in the history of our club and it’s a shame that people seem to think it was all down to one guy (Ronnie)..

    Take a step back people and remember where we came from..

  66. Nectarine says:

    Well said, Tony Starks.

  67. King Eric says:

    manutdchampions2008 – Are you serious when you come on here or are you just on the wind up? Everything you say is negative and to say it is our weakest squad is just foolish. How the fuck do you explain 3 titles in a row and 2 Champions league finals not to mention shit loads of other stuff? How you can say the dippers and rentboys have better squads is a fucking joke frankly. I think you should seriously question whether you should be a United fan.

  68. manutdchampions2008 says:

    Tony Starks if it was not for ronaldo there would be no 3 titles in a row.
    07/08 season only rooney and tevez got double figures goals wise if you take ronaldo out of the team. 08/09 season you take ronaldo out of the midfield nani is the highest goalscorer with 6 goals. now if I am missing something for a club like united that is awful. the reason why some united fans are worried is because we have owners who are not fit and right to run our club. the only thing they have giving in return is millions of debt.

  69. manutdchampions2008 says:

    King Eric lets be real the champions league is very weak at the moment. I have seen far better united outfits that would have dominated the current european cup, like the 94 side and the 99 side. I said the liverpool and chelsea midfields and even the attack now with ronaldo and tevez gone are better. not the overall squad

  70. Nectarine says:

    There’s no way of knowing what we’d won without Ronaldo. Even if we could it doesn’t matter – because the fact is Ronaldo DID play for us the past three seasons and we won a lot of things. There was a lot of reasons we were so successful from 06 to 09, Ronaldo being one of them. I could say Barcelona would have been shit without Messi last season but what does that prove? Nothing. It’s a pointless hypothetical scenario.

  71. manutdchampions2008 says:

    Nectarine yea maybe but barcelona unlike united have world class players in the cental area. plus they have or had 2 other strikers that clould smash 30 goals in henry and eto’o. berbatov and tevez could only dream of having that level of goal talent about them. do not forget barcelona will never lose their best player united have.

  72. Devilton says:

    It’s pointless conjecture to suggest we won solely because of Ronaldo. Before Ronaldo banged in the goals we had Rudd scoring shitloads. Someone always picks up the slack (or as is the case, more then one player ups the number of goals they get in a season).

    Ronaldo didn’t make United. United made Ronaldo.

    We might not play the same type of game we did when he was around but his departure will not result in the team suddenly disintegrating. If anything, we should play better as a team and with a more balanced tactical approach. With Ronaldo, you had to look to feed him and adjust to his game, now more players will get a chance to express themselves instead of always looking to one man to win games.

  73. manutdchampions2008 says:

    Devilton could you rely on scoreless Anderson who is out of position. Nani’s current form which is abysmal. scholes and giggs only getting older. Hargreaves injuries mountain again and only he got about 3 goals. Carrick Fletcher are good but not great and their goals tally not great either. berbatovs sluggish slow performances, Owen will continue to pick up injuries also Rooney does pick up injuries a lot and it is so unfair to rely on Rooney to get united results. Valencia the French winger who was sent on loan because of performances. tosic park you add is well are these really united standard I doubt it. Unless these players wake up we will not get a good season but the one of the standard of the 03/04 season.

  74. Nectarine says:

    @Devilton

    Exactly. I think we looked a bit too much to Ronaldo last season and that hindered us going forward. I think we’ll get more leagues goals than last season (68, merely adequate) because more players will step up and it not being all about adjusting the tactics to maximize Ronaldo’s contribution.

  75. Nectarine says:

    We won the FA cup in 03/04 and probably would have won the league if Rio wasn’t such a dope at the time. Most would consider that a successful season with a trophy and all. We can’t win everything all the time.

    What’s the fun in being a supporter if you’re always going to paint everything black and anticipate the utter failure of most of our players? For example, everybody can see that Anderson’s got immense potential. He’s 21 this year and inconsistent but capable of great performances. He outplayed Gerrard at Anfield in his first season for us! Ferguson has said he will take over for Scholes and clearly rates him. Why not have a little faith instead of dismissing him?

  76. red_devil says:

    manutdchampions: we manutd supporters always believe that we can win with any team or what we have, if u dont trust in our master just go and support scousers or chavs or big spending like u said that u want big money super satrs club real madrid. in our mind it doesnt matter tosic or ando can play for big club, but there r our stars and they r playing for a big club. who the hell r u to decide who is star and who isnt? tosic is one of the big player. when we bought vidic do u think he was a big name star and coasted us 25m? look at him now. shut the ****up and get lost. we r united with everything except u. come on united here we go, glory glory glory

  77. TheTipIsRed says:

    I do have a crush on Hargo (I’m a lady), but all the naysayers, remember the one constant factor in all of these teams: Sir Alex Ferguson. When he retires, then we worry. Until then, I will support every team he puts on the sheet. People (esp. the media) write off SAF far too easily and he continues to lift trophies at the end of the beginning of the season, middle of the season, and end of the season.

    Glory Glory Man Utd!

  78. TheTipIsRed says:

    ***I meant at the beginning of the season, middle of the season, and end of the season. Thanks!

  79. manutdchampions2008 says:

    Nectarine 03/04 was a disaster of a season and is the worst set of players I have ever seen. after such a great season in 02/03 the following season was average. anderson not being funny is like a headless chicken. he has all energy but no kind of goal threat, his vision is quiet poor his creative passing qualitys is left a lot to be desired. to even think anderson could replace scholes I think people are kidding themselves.

  80. Drew Vader says:

    manutdchampion — dude, just go over and hang out on RedRants. You will find plenty of other doom mongers and cry babies over there to join you in your pessimism. We here at ROM are an optimistic bunch. And I for one think that yes, plenty of those players could get into the squads you mentioned. But thats just me.

  81. red rossa says:

    i hope he stays fit this time, one of the best players in the world only for his fitness, with him and owen fully fit along with the squad we have at the moment we should be alright for next year, hopefully fergie will splash at least 20 mil or more on a midfielder lik silva, a battler like cattermole and we need a proper playmaker too like we need to make it to 19 before the scouse scum

  82. theboogeyman says:

    Bloody hell,on RedRants the comments are like effing novels!!
    PS:That Grognard and the other doom merchants are extremely pessimistic.

  83. Marq says:

    @manutdchampions2008

    I think I can understand where you are coming from, but you have to understand where we stand as well. All these years, we have never had the best midfield by comparing player by player with other teams. 98/99 was an exception. But even that year, there were other teams who supposedly had very good players in their midfield who could hold a place in our team, the likes of Zidane & Davids, Rivaldo & Guardiola, Effenberg & Basler & Matthäus, Seedorf & Redondo, etc. We still won it all.
    -What we have is a good balance, something Sir Alex has been brilliant with. Just take one of the seasons for example. We ran Mourinho’s formidable Chelsea close with O’Shea & a declining Giggs in central midfield! Something Gerrard & Henry could do for their teams! There is a reason why so many of us trust Sir Alex, maybe you should start as well

  84. Marq says:

    * Something Gerrard & Henry couldn’t do for their teams!

  85. Corea says:

    It’s so stupid. We are a month away from the start and some are already highly pessimistic about the issue. Hold on. Did we have weak squad before 06-07 season ? Come On!
    I don’t care what you fellas think of our squad. For me we have been the best in the EPL 3 for free years running and we are champions until there are mathematical chances. So deluded.

  86. andsolskjaerhaswonit... says:

    @manutdchampions: U argue, about our midfield being the worse among the Europe’ elite.
    Now tell me exactly, How many defenders can stake a claim for a place in our Back 4. i guess, none.

    Drew Vader got it spot on, go to RedRants, i think ur the one with the Username Steve there.
    Theres just so much negativity there, they don’t rate Evra, they don’t rate Berbatov, they don’t rate Valencia neither do they rate Owen.

    Fookin Hell, Have some faith in the Manager.
    ffs, umpteenth times he has taken us from nowhere to parity.
    B.E.L.I.E.V.E

  87. jespermoses says:

    I’m hoping he comes back really strong but I think after all he’s been through he’ll just not be the same player.

  88. King Eric says:

    off topic – Hughes is a fucking idiot

    - “Carlos (Tevez) and Roque (Santa Cruz) were not considered for this match as it would have been too dangerous given their level of pre-season fitness,” stressed Hughes.

    Isn’t that what pre season friendlys are all about? Getting match fitness back.

  89. ash says:

    We badly need hargo. he is a guy that can control a game.
    i am very eager to see michael owen playing regularly and scoring goals.
    now we dont need a stricker but we do need a mf who can be a cover for hargo and other mf.i dont want to see scholes and giggs playing ahead of ando and nani. we need to give these youngster to play more games.
    i am sure we will retain the league but it is the question of champs league.
    i will still go and buy van der vaart.
    and yeah tosic is going to be the player to watch this season. he has a loads of talent i hope he scores some goals.

  90. gingerprince says:

    Oh God! Please ! Let this be true!!!

  91. Chris Ant says:

    Why do people still think that Fletcher isn’t good enough for United. Of course he is, he was brilliant last year and if we had him in the Champions League final, it would have been a much more closer match. The 5 games we lost last year, were when Fletcher didn’t play, that tells its own story!!!

  92. manutdchampions2008 says:

    theboogeyman I have no time for redrants, grognard is a canadian and he thinks he is the guru of man utd. I had a rite arguement with him last year when he said united should sell wayne rooney, now anyone who thinks that needs brain surgery and does not know anything about united. plus he also thinks evra is rubbish. he was also saying the bernabeu and old trafford are average stadiums.

    andsolskjaerhaswonit the 99 midfield was a midfield that could take on anyone in europe. this one could not.

  93. john ferry says:

    With Hargo and Vidic playing on the same pitch, Manchester United will reclaim the title. Both of the lads are monsters !!! Hargo will open many possibilities for the rest of lads to score.

  94. Nectarine says:

    @manutdchampions2008

    Now there’s something we can agree on. That Grognard seems like a bit of a twat and the mere notion of selling Rooney is crazy talk.

  95. theboogeyman says:

    I don’t care if a fan is Canadian,Indian or even a fucking Martian,they’re all still supporting United.

  96. Dani says:

    Man, I got some man love for Hargreaves. What a fantastic player. I got two United jerseys from last season, and I promised myself I wouldn’t buy one this year because I tought the new one is horrible, as is the possible 2 is also ugly.
    But, I swear if he comes back in september I’ll buy one with his name on the back.

    And I’ll also have a perm on my head to get curly hair… HAHAHA

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