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Tour – Who’s Going and Who’s Left Behind

Going
Goalkeepers: Anders Lindegaard, Ben Amos, Sam Johnstone
Defenders: Rafael, Fabio, Nemanja Vidic, Jonny Evans, Patrice Evra, Rio Ferdinand
Midfielders: Michael Carrick, Nani, Anderson, Ryan Giggs, Ji-sung Park, Gabriel Obertan
Forwards: Mame Biram Diouf, Federico Macheda, Wayne Rooney, Michael Owen, Dimitar Berbatov, Ashley Young.

Going later
Chris Smalling, Danny Welbeck, Tom Cleverley, David de Gea, Phil Jones, Javier Hernandez – after competing in the European U21 Championship/Gold Cup following the season end.

Not going
Darron Gibson – signalling the likely end of his United career. After failing to agree with terms, Stoke may be the club for him.
Darren Fletcher – after missing out on the end of last season, the club believe an intensive programme at Carrington will be of more use to him.
Antonio Valencia

Shirt numbers
David de Gea will wear 1, Jones will be 4 and Young succeeds Paul Scholes in the number 18 shirt.


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482 Comments

  1. willierednut says:

    I’d put Young’s wages at 100k a week.

  2. Sparkz says:

    @ Smartalex- I suppose you’re right. I was pretty unhappy that we undersold JOS- should’ve been getting a good £6-7m for him IMO. But obviously, if our main priority was to get the wages off our bill- we most probably wouldn’t have bothered over an extra few mill?

  3. willierednut says:

    FITB – Good point. Sneijder is at his peak. Hence, bigger wages.

  4. Sparkz says:

    @ FITB- possibly, you could be right, I still have doubts though. Most of the reports I’ve read about him, bar the website that’s been posted on here, have him earning much more

    Willierednut- Really? That would most likely catapult Young into being the 3rd highest earner at the club (behind Rooney and Rio). I find that a bit unlikely in all honesty

  5. StatesideAussie says:

    Sparkz … I don’t know the numbers either but you do raise a good point: as several of us have noted before, our squad is structured differently to most others. While others typically have a first 11, plus a bunch of squadies, we have a very small core of no more than 5 players (including the Number 1 goalie). Surely, if we are considering a guy of Sneijder’s calibre, it would have to be on the basis of him joining that small core group — meaning he would expect to play 45-50 matches a year. Most of our guys don’t play anywhere near that. Last season, Vidic, Evra and VDS did; Rooney had 40 (but would have played more had he not been overcome by “swine fever” for some chunk time; his career average at United is 46 matches a season). Rio would also get that many, but for fitness/injury. Most of our other guys don’t get anywhere close to that, but I would have to think Sneijder would be up there. Couldn’t see us getting someone of that quality (and cost) for 25-30 matches.

  6. willierednut says:

    Sparkz – I heard it was 130k a week. More likely around the 100 mark.

  7. Sparkz says:

    @ Stateside- I suppose he would definitely be into that “core” group, you’re not gonna splash out a huge transfer fee on him otherwise!

    From a footballing perspective- I’d also put Carrick in that category (he also crossed the 40 game barrier). Him, VDS, Rio, Vidic, Evra and Rooney were generally guaranteed their places in the first team when fit. The guys around them are constantly rotating, but they usually play.

  8. Fred says:

    By the way, congrats to the Beckhams, who had a new addition to the family this morning – a baby girl. :)

  9. Sparkz says:

    Willie- If that’s true (and a Google search tells me that you may actually be correct with your estimation!), I think that’s an indication that Fergie sees him as a massive part of the side. Anyone over the 100k mark at our club will most likely go into that “core” group that me and Stateside were discussing.

    Could mean that it’s a straight fight between Nani and Valencia for the other winger’s spot then

  10. fergie is the boss says:

    Sparkz – that is why people have got to stop comparing scneijder’s wages to scholes and giggs, scholes at scneijders age was about 2003, and at that time this was before the russian took over chelsea, and the money in the premiership was at a good balance. Only the virus were paying OTT, and the itialian clubs were is well. Giggs was at an age, where his wages could not be increased, has he became a different player in the 2003/03 season

  11. fergie is the boss says:

    well 2002/03 season I ment

  12. smartalex says:

    Sparkz – If it’s 140 000 a week for the 2 of them, 50 odd weeks is 7 million a year.

  13. Sparkz says:

    FITB- I don’t think anybody’s comparing/complaining about Sneijder’s wages with regards to Scholes and Giggs. I think even by today’s standards, people see £250k as too high.

    However, if the reports which put Rooney at above £200k are correct, then Sneijder is defo gonna have to be earning around that much if he comes. He’s currently earning £170k a week at Inter I think. He’s obviously gonna get a raise on that if he comes here.

    It just depends on HOW MUCH of a raise it’ll be. I’m sure Utd won’t wanna raise it to more than £200k…..he might be thinking differently though.

  14. smartalex says:

    If Sneijder’s getting £170k a week at Inter, then he should get that here. If he wants more he’ll have to prove himself. We’re the ones taking a chance. He knows United is the best choice for winning all the trophy’s and accolades. He will accept that, and anyway i don’t think Sir alex would agree to more.

  15. willierednut says:

    I know it’s not popular and will probably never get the go ahead, a wage cap would be a sensible thing to be brought into football. The top tier players, don’t have to be earning more than 100/120k a week. These guys make fortunes with numerous sponsorships deals, which are very lucrative for them. The players below that, could earn around 60/70k a week. Again, too many average footballers are earning the big money, before they even make it. You have to wonder as well, what that does for their motivation? They have one great season, and expect the bumper deal. No problem with the Messi’s and the Ronaldo’s of this world getting the big contracts. It’s the average players, that get rewarded for one half decent season and expect their clubs to cough up mega contracts.

  16. StatesideAussie says:

    Well, it’s tough talking about wages with any sense, because it’ll be a mixture of base plus bonuses, and that’s hard to figure. But, SAF supposedly met Sneijder’s agent a while back, and Mulensteen has publicly stated his enthusiasm for the guy, and both of them will be clued into what Sneijder earns now, and what we can afford. Of course, SAF may have met the agent just for small talk and a glass of vino, but from what I hear, SAF would rather gargle vomit than ‘socialize’ with an agent. Got to think there was some real purpose to it — that SAF figures we’re at least in the ballpark.

  17. Sparkz says:

    Willie- I agree, but I just can’t see it happening. Seems like there’s too many legal barriers to that as well.

  18. StatesideAussie says:

    Willie … I do like the wage cap idea. I don’t think wage caps can be applied to individuals, though –n not sure that would stand up in court. But they can be applied to the total squad, as a max budget. I could also go for a version of the “luxury tax” they use in baseball: if your club spends more than X on wages, then for every dollar over X, you have to contribute a matching amount into a fund (which is then used for development, or to help out poorer clubs, or whatever — the point is, it acts as a penalty, especially if combined with a properly enforced “can’t spend more than you earn” rule).

  19. smartalex says:

    We use choicest juicy chunks of fresh Cornish ram’s bladder, emptied, steamed, flavoured with sesame seeds, whipped into a fondue and garnished with lark’s vomit.

  20. StatesideAussie says:

    smartalex … yuck on the sesame seeds…

  21. smartalex says:

    StatesideAussie … yeah sesame is boring.

  22. Rai says:

    Willie – I agree mate. Average players, like Gerrard, Torres and Lampard etc should all be capped.

    It is a joke when you think about some very average players earning stupid money, but like I said earlier, if film stars and singers ate earning it, sports stars will always get that type of money. A cap in the premiership would benefit us if I’m honest, not sure how all the other teams will feel about it if I’m honest.

  23. smartalex says:

    Salary caps means that the player will chose the best club, as money’s no object.
    Any player worth having will want us.

    Of course, we feel that should apply anyway.

    Salary caps are seen as ‘Who’s taking the money instead?’, and rightly so.

  24. willierednut says:

    I’ve got a salary cap, but I feel a bit of a wet lettuce for wearing it.

  25. Rai says:

    Smartalex – City will be fucked :)

  26. smartalex says:

    Willierednut, a celery cap will make you feel a wet toss.

    Rai, that would be City fucked! Perhaps even Rio and some others may go for it. Not!

  27. Rai says:

    Milner
    Toure
    Silva
    Tevez

    Where would they be now..

  28. ManchesterMike says:

    @Rai

    playing in the MLS :D

  29. lordrt says:

    Where’s Morrison and Pogba? I was thinking may be SAF will give them a chance to shine in these games. Diouf still with us? lol I thought he was already sold to another team

  30. Red_Devil_in_DC says:

    Booked my tickets for the Barca match in DC ages ago. Fiancee (chelsea supporter!!) bought them for an early bday present. Cannot wait. We have plum seats too.

    Who else will be at the DC match? Unitedyankee? RedNomad?

  31. indiandevil says:

    The US tour Begins July 13th, New England Revolution v Man United at the Gillette Stadium followed by games against Seattle, Chicago, All star Team and finally the big one gainst Barcelona.

    Here’s a preview of the US Tour- Will the Fringe players make their mark?

    http://www.thehardtackle.com/2011/man-united-usa-2011-tour-of-opportunity/

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