After Manchester United signed a new sponsorship deal with Chevrolet in the summer all the players were offered a free car. Sir Alex Ferguson banned the players under the age of 23 from selecting a sporty model though.
“As with most automotive partnerships, Chevrolet will be offering players a car,” a United spokesman confirmed. “The model will be dependent on their time at the club and driving experience.”
Whilst obviously football is changing and youngsters start earning silly amounts of money before they’ve really made it, Ferguson tries to do whatever he can to keep the players’ feet on the ground.
Yesterday, 19-year-old Ryan Tunnicliffe was banned from driving for 14 months after writing off his £60k Range Rover when twice over the alcohol limit. In his defence, the crash took place at 2pm the day after a drinking session, which suggests he wasn’t actively drinking and driving.
Boys will be boys and all that, so if he’s earning the money to buy such a flash car, some would say you can’t blame him. However, it would be welcomed if, after just one first team appearance as a sub, he tried to appear more humble. Gone are the days when our youngsters should be driving Ford Escorts, like David Beckham did (buying it off Ryan Giggs for £6k) though, right?
Apparently not.
Nick Powell, who joined the club for a deal that could be worth up to £6m from Crewe Alexandra in the summer, announced yesterday that his car passed its MOT. The first thing that tells us is that he drives a car that’s at least three years old. He confirmed the car he drives is a Vauxhall Corsa. Powell, who’s a year younger than Tunnicliffe, scored a cracking goal at Wembley last season to secure Crewe’s promotion to League One, and finished the season as the club’s highest scorer. You might think after securing a move to United he’d get too big for his boots and splash his cash on a fancy set of wheels.
After scoring on his début against Wigan last month, Powell insisted: “My dad will keep me in touch, I’ll tell you that. I’m just going to go home, have this great feeling and I’ll keep myself on the ground.”
I’m sure it was entirely innocent and he wasn’t trying to look like teacher’s pet by tweeting about his Corsa… but Powell’s other car is a Ranger Rover! Looks like after securing a move to United he did splash his cash on a fancy set of wheels. Try as he might, doesn’t look like there’s much Fergie can do to stop this one.
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off topic, noooooo : http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/26/manchester-united-shinji-kagawa-out
There are tons of young footballers driving flashy cars, they just have to be responsible when it comes to driving. Whether Tunni drove a flashy car not is not the point, the point is he was drinking and driving and could of caused serious damage to someone else never mind himself.
If you write first you’re a dickhead.
IF ryan was twice over the limit at 2pm the next day that means he is drinking ridiculous amounts of alcohol the night before…. i should know as i do it!!!
Hard for anyone to have their feet on the ground when being paid 20k a week. I guess this will be a commen occurence for many a year to come. Hard to belief that many years a ago United players would live around Stretford and Salford.
Parthi; thats good lad, here’s ten pence and grab yourself some sweets.
Good wake up call for the lad
Haha funny that. ” Parthi; thats good lad, here’s ten pence and grab yourself some sweets”
Some only ever comment on here to shout ’1st’ and then disappear, I’m with you mate
Only Attention seekers do that
As for the lads, you only get what you can afford, aslong as they behave themselves on the road and so on…. Drinking is a no, no for a professional footballer, that is what should be banned
i don’t think money or the type of car that the younger boys drive is the issue here. we have all driven the day after a bender and im sure we’ve all been over the limit when we’ve driven, so no need to get on our high horses.. lets just be happy that tunni didn’t seriously fuck himself or someone else.
i find it hilarious how deeply affected people get by somebody claiming a first post.
I cant see any of our first team arriving at OT before a game in a Chevrolet of any sorts. they may as well just deliver them straight to a family member or half decent friend of choice.
I think anderson will get a shot at this weekends game, I think he can become our most potent weapon for this coming game vs chavs and a lot more to come if he can keep fit
He has proved handful for most established mid fielders in the league, aka gerrard and fabregas, its not the lightweight oscar that can trouble him now
I’m really excited to see which line-up the boss will put up, hopefully its no the giggsy scholes combo or the scholes, carrick one. They are too pedestrians for my liking and we would get ripped a new one by a young
And energetic chavs side..
My ideal line-up would include ando and carrick init, coupled by the robin van persie and wazzawayne partnership with the wayne boy doing what he does best which is dropping deep and create havoc
While cleverbeck offer the much needed pace and energy in the flanks…
Such as this:
————————-DDG
Rafael———rio————-evans————–evra
—————carrick—————–aderson
——-cleverley—–waynewazzarooney—welbeck
—————————-RVP
also maybe could be a reflection of our society.. some of my fiends drive bmw’s yet dont have the money to go to the pub for a few drinks..its all about image these days
Mo- all about image or to be precise, avoidance of status anxiety . Hymen replacement being a case in example
@fullard this people only ever show up as first or second and disappear
Maybe scott has created some competition of sort that I don’t know of
@Proverb
This game would be tailor-made for Anderson … if he’d played enough football, which I just don’t think he has. He takes a few starts to get into his energetic rhythm, and although he’s been good when he has played this season, it hasn’t been often enough.
If Scholes starts alongside Carrick, then Mata, Hazard and Oscar are going to have an absolute party. I know we’ve been outscoring teams this season, but don’t see us doing so with that trio up against a relatively immobile pairing, never mind Ramires potentially running from behind them.
I’ve got a sneaky feeling Hernandez will start this one. He was so, so good against Braga, and coming off early suggests that Fergie may have been keeping him fresh. Because of that, I think we’ll see the diamond again, and we’ll look something like this:
DDG
Evra
Ferdinand
Evans
Rafael
Carrick (base)
Cleverley
Fletcher
Rooney (tip)
Hernandez
RVP
Chelsea are strong in the fullback positions, so we’ll probably be better keeping things narrow and trying to get through the slightly softer centre that Mikel provides.
@Kanchelskis
Great line-up there mate its an option
But my concern is flecher, he looked totally exhausted after the hour mark in midweek vs braga and I don’t think he would take another big match in such short space of time
TonyV could aswel start to provide width, he’s a nightmare for cashley also
@Proverb
Yeh, Tony V has always had joy against Cashley. Also, he has underutilised verstatility, often playing central for Ecuador. Because of this, he could conceivably play as one of the central players in the diamond, and just replace Fletcher in the formation shown above, either in the starting lineup, or after 60-odd minutes.
The other option of course, and one I wouldn’t put past Fergie, is to throw everyone after all this public pondering on the diamond, and just turn up with two full-on wingers in Nani and Tony V, go 4-2-3-1 with Carrick and Fletch sitting, and Rooney in the 3 alongside those two. RvP up front.
All these discussions are proving is that it’s impossible and pretty futile to try and second-guess SAF for these kinds of games!
Not a chance Fletch will start 2 games in a row he played midweek to give someone a rest so take your pick
Good news is that lampard is out for 2weeks
He’s one player I rate the most out that chelsea setup http://itv.com/sport/football…
Even though his legs are abit short now but still provide them with experience and load of goals and can pick a vital pass on his day
Yeah mate its near impossible to second guess the scot, he’s a master in those things, only an oracle mate only an oracle
Tony V will definitely start Cole has issues with him and Luiz is a muppet,Torres is still shit don’t rate the rent boys that high Utd have a big chance and that’ll burst the rent boys bubble
Sir Alex should have ltd the young lads to non sporty 4 cylinder,first time I’ve commented on this but as someone else pointed out who hasn’t driven the day after a night on the piss
@wayne
I don’t rate their overall team, but it seems like their strongest area is perfectly set up to exploit our weakest. They basically play with 3 number 10s, who will float around and interchange in that achilles tendon area of ours – in front of the defence.
I will be very, very surprised if we come away from there with a clean sheet. And, although we have been outscoring teams, I think it’s doubtful that we’ll get as much joy against them as we have against the Stokes and Bragas of this world.
Being brutally honest? I’d take the point if it was offered now.
DDG
Rafael Evans Rio Evra
Carrick Ando
Cleverley Rooney Welbeck
RVP
Would be good to see Tony V rip cashley a new one again and i can def see him starting, in which case he would take ando’s spot.
I find it hard putting any united player into my fantasy teams cos its so bloody hard to predict who’ll play. If fletch was fit he’d be perfect for this game and whilst he’d still be capable of rising to the occasion, he’s a month or two away from the tireless 90 minute performances we all fell in love with.
Kanchelskis hi mate,could be a high scoring affair, really think Cahill and Luiz in the middle are very suspect if Mikel plays he’s as slow as fuck.Hazard started well but has gone off the boil and Oscar to me still looks light weight,Torres just isn’t that good anymore they’ve been relying on Mata big time I really fancy Utd’s chances
Last week Gallas gave them the game on a plate
Imo Tony V brings too much to the team attack and defense, him and Rafa play well together.He’s one of Utd’s most important players,unless injured just can’t see him being left out
@wayne
Hazard looked anonymous after his initial flurry, but looked to be getting his eye in again against Spurs. His assist for Mata’s first was nice. Thing is, even if we stick someone on Mata, I still think an unattended Oscar and/or Hazard could cause us problems.
Agree re Gallas.
If Rio, Jonny and Paddy bring their A-games and we don’t concede inside 20 minutes, I’ll start to believe we can win there. But when did that last happen?
Still take the point!
Its important to note that our wingers haven’t enjoyed the best of games since the implementation of the soo talked of ‘diamond’ system we now playing
But yeah I agree with @wayne TonyV is def going to start, he’ll provide width and cover on that right flank, and both him and rafa can stop hazard aswel as bombing up forward to create chance for our strikers.
Chavs are not a very, very good side, I believe they rode their luck up until now and I can ensue you by sunday their luck would have spoofed out and we gonna we a field day
And defensively they’re a very weak side, only if we can manage to stop them we’re in for a good day
Have*
I’ll take the point just think Utd have a big chance,agree its been a tough ground.Like you think the Rent boys are overrated and Utd can expose weakness,I’m pumped fucking hate them
To be fair who’s not written off a £60 grand car.
The game at the week end will be who scores the most , I think it will be us 2-4 United
@dazbomber
Score 4 at Stamford Bridge?!
I admire your optimism!
No one condones drunk driving there is a difference between that and impaired and the day after someone can feel ok but still be impaired
Society does have a double standard there’s so many fuckers driving on prescribed meds everyday of the week and shouldn’t but for some reason this gets overlooked,to me no difference
DDG
Rafael Rio Evans Evra
Carrick Anderson
Valencia Wayne Welbeck
RVP
Johnstone Scholes Chicharito Giggs Nani Cleverley Buttner
In absence of Anderson, plug in Cleverley. I love Paul Scholes, but this game is going to be lightening quick and for all his ability to control a game, this game will be uncontrolable. Anderson or Cleverley’s energy and pace will be sorely needed for this fixture. Valencia and Danny to harry and hassle the flanks. Scholes is the guy to come on at 70 minutes, when legs are tired, to dictate the tempo of the latter stages.
@KANCHELKIS
mate we scored 3 there last time. we can score four. well CITY SCORED 6 AT OLD TRAFFORD.
strange things can happen. i dont think we can afford to lose. going 7 behind will be bad eventhough its early season. 3-1 TO US with rvp HATRICK
i might be wrong but i dnt think hazard has been plsying that well. mata has been awesome. TORRES IS SHIT AS HELL. if we start with scholes giggs we will get MURDERED
I Don’t See Any Future At United For TUnni. He’s Not Showing The Right Attitude.
DDG
RAFAEL FERDINAND EVANS EVRA
CLEV CARRICK
VALENCIA WELBECK
ROONEY
ROBIN VAN PERSIE
@ARUN,
Good point, good point. But that did also entail us conceding 3 as well! We generally have a very poor record at SB, and the only way I think we’ll score plenty ourselves is by playing a very open game, which could cost us…
I see I’m the only one that backs Hernandez for a start.
Nobody else think his goals and performance against Braga, his record against Chelsea, his early withdrawal on Tuesday, and Fergie’s post-game comments, are pointing towards it?
Kanchelskis I see no reason why he can’t start if Sir Alex goes with 3 strikers will depend on the formation,against Braga good as I’ve seen him play
@kanchelskis
well mate all poor records have to come to an end. tottenham ended their record at OT. we won at anfield atfer 4 years. PLUS PAUL MERSON HAS PREDICTED CHELSEA WILL WIN. so we should win. i just want to see starting line up if scholes or giggs are there THEN IAM GOING TO CHURCH.
seriously thiugh i think we will win this. CHELSEAS BUBBLE IS ABT TO BURST.i agree we have not been defending well. but chelsea realy should have conceded 5 against shakthar. i would go for ferdinand and evans over cahill and luiz
@ Kanchelski
The Little Pea has a devastating record against The Chavs and if it weren’t for RVP then I’d be all over it. Possibly if this was at Old Trafford you could line up with 2 up front. The only way I see Chicha starting is if RVP plays out left in a 4-2-3-1 with Valencia on the right and Wayne in the middle.
DDG
Rafa Rio Evans Evra
Carrick Cleverley/Ando
Valencia Wayne RVP
Chicha
Deary me, that’s some fire power up front!
@ARUN
If Giggsy starts I’d be very, very surprised. He’s done nothing this season to suggest that his ‘experience’ in these games compensates for his slowness and increasingly poor decision-making.
I kind of wish Smalling was fully fit for this game as they have speed similar to Tottenham and we saw how Rio handled that! He’s a superb defender but against team with forwards of such agility as Chelsea he can get caught out so extra speed in defence would be nice. Expect him to start though.
SAF will probably go with experience and try to keep the tempo down so i guess he will pick a midfield of Carrick and Scholes and wouldn’t even be surprised if Giggs made it to the starting line up. I’d like us to try to take them on with our younger players. A front 6 of Cleverley, Anderson, Nani, Rooney, Valencia and RVP would be interesting.
This the team for me
…….Carrick
…clevs…..Ando
………Rooney
..welbeck..rvp
Back line picks itself. Valencia nani and Chico to come of the bench in the second half, if needed of course
Kanchelskis @ 15:02: “I see I’m the only one that backs Hernandez for a start.”
Not so fast there. I also want to see Chicharito as the lead-the-line striker (Anderson, Cleverley, and Carrick starting behind TheWayneBoy and RVP).
“If none of Welbeck, Nani, Fletcher, Scholes and Giggs start, then I fancy United to win. If only 1 of them start, I fancy a draw. If 2 of them start, I think Chelsea will win. If 3 of them start, I’m certain Chelsea will win by two and if all 5 of them start, then I’m afraid United are going to get thrashed.’
I added the name of TheGingerNinja to this statement from TheGuardianOnline
@Den
You can ‘try to keep the tempo down’ all you like, but easier said than done against a team with Oscar, Hazard, Mata and probably Ramires. If Scholes and Carrick start, we’re in trouble.
The bet shop and Steve McMahon the pundit are all saying Chelsea will beat United Sunday. I’m seeing a close for United win at Stamford Bridge. Let’s do it!
@denton davey
4321? Interesting! Might be the best system to cope with Chelsea’s strengths, but not at all a familiar one for the team.
@kanchelskis
I agree it would not be likely for profit but it just seems like something SAF would want to try but who knows. Last year Park would have started this game in a 4-5-1 to break up the midfield play and i could see Anderson in that role on Sunday. A kind of 4-5-1 has been used against them before and has worked pretty well too.
Kanchleskis @ 15:40: “4-2-3-1 … Might be the best system to cope with Chelsea’s strengths, but not at all a familiar one for the team.”
Let’s not get all rocket science about this – it’s footie. If you watched the other night against Braga – and I’m sure you did – then something like that “formation” was in the works. TheWayneBoy and RVP were drifting inside, outside, back, and forth – Chicharito was mostly (but not always) the lead-the-line striker.
If SAF picks Anderson and Cleverley to play ahead of Michael Carrick then the “formation” is really some version of a 4-3-2-1, with Anderson/Cleverley playing as “withdrawn inside forwards” and, one would imagine, RVP and TheWayneBoy instructed to be very conscientious about defensive positioning so as to prevent TheRentBoyz’ little #10s from having too much room to wander between-the-lines.
What I most want to see are the ability to stretch CSKALondon’s defence by terrifying them with Chicharito’s pace so that they are reluctant to play a high-line AND, second, more drive from the “withdrawn inside forwards” bringing the ball into the RentBoyz’ territory and having runners off the ball – as opposed to the sent a long “diagonal to the wing” or shuttle the ball around the perimeter.
I reckon that Luiz, Ramires, Obi Mikel, Ivanovic, and (less so) Cahill are all going to be very nervous if UTD’s skill players run at them; doing the permeter-shuttle plays into their hands. De Matteo showed in last year’s CL semi-final and final that he can organize those guys to play a park-the-bus defence; dealing with direct runners and wall-passing is another story.
So, in terms of “formation” what I’m suggesting is a kind of 4-1-4-1, which will be a bit different from a 4-5-1 if only because without Giggs/Scholes there would be more mobility/inter-changing from the forward-four.
Youngster like this really weirds me out. Without even being successful in the first team, they concentrate their life and being fancy like thinking they achieve big by buying this and that.
Sometimes i wonder if this will hinder their progress in the first team as they had no interest in football but what cars to buy!
@ Denton
“If SAF picks Cleverley/Ando ahead of Carrick…”
No question in my mind Carrick starts this game. For me it’s a matter of who starts beside hime, Anderson or Cleverley.
Some interesting line-ups fantasized by some if not all of you on here (meself included)
But the question still remains, will the boss go by the idea, or have we second guessed him this time around?
I know we hate to see paul scholes and giggs starting in same line-up despite their legendary status, its important to acknowledge the two have past it and have no legs to compete with the like of chelsea, shitty, learse and so on..
But that doesn’t mean sir alex agrees with the lot of us, he has proved time and again that he prefers experienced players to young and energetic players and that could be the case again come sunday afternoon
I don’t wanna sound biased here, but it will be impossible for him to leave out both giggsy and scholesy out in such a huge game
It might go against our wishes, but sir alex is sir alex, no one needs introduction
And the fact that scholes didn’t touch a ball during midweek might prove vital for whom wish to predict sundays starting line-up
Hopefully I’m dead wrong
There has to be a long-term concern in constantly trotting out Scholes for the big games as well. What happens when he finally retires, which could easily be at the end of next season, with Giggs doing the same?
What do we do then for our big games next season? We find ourselves utterly rudderless as the less experienced players just don’t have the history of being trusted to control the big games.
@Kanchelskis
Its a huge concern mate
Expect him and carrick to sit back and pass side-ways act as if we are controlling the tempo
When in actual fact we aren’t, we’re only inviting opposition to come at us and have those numerous shots at goal we seem concede in every single match lately
I don’t feel alright when criticizing our own team but its time I voiced out my views
Hopefully it will be the first and final from me
Let’s gave them chavs for dinner
Have*
ididnotzeeit @ 16:27: “No question in my mind Carrick starts this game. For me it’s a matter of who starts beside hime, Anderson or Cleverley.”
Why not all three ?
Sorry if anyone has posted it but I just loved it. Owen taking a dig at arsenal and their fans
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/398742/20121026/michael-owen-robin-van-persie-arsenal-manchester.htm?
Owen says “He(Robin Van persie} will be playing in a better team, in front of more fans at a club with a huge tradition, will have more chance of winning something and will be rewarded handsomely for it. It’s a no-brainer.
HAHAHA.
Has anyone mentioned that van Persie has scored 5 goals at stamford bridge.
2 in a 2-1 victory which I believe was the first victory at stamford bridge by any team since Mourinho.
Also 3 in a 5-3 victory last year.
Class!
That’s just classy, owen you just hit the nail on the head, le arse fans growing increasingly annoying for my liking
They just cannot wait to see robin van persie injured, their wishes haven’t come true as yet
I’m starting to detest them, I hope he scores a hattrick vs them and we do them a new one, that would hurt in the ass
Kanchelskis – when scholes and giggs retire, united will move on as they’ve always done. When you say “players don’t have the history of performing in big games”, well theplatform has been set for players to make their own history.
@samuel
When I said ‘history’, I meant more ‘experience’ (but didn’t want to use the word twice!).
I just mean that if Scholes is wheeled out to control every important game, then none of the other players have any idea what it’s like to be trusted to take a big game by the horns. I have no doubt that in the long run we’ll adapt, but the thought of losing Scholes and, to a lesser extent, Giggs in one fell swoop is an alarming one.
Maybe it will be the departure of Scholes that finally forces Fergie’s hand in the whole ‘buying a midfielder’ department.
I don’t know but i’d take the gamble of playing welbeck, van persie and rooney in a fluid 4-3-3. The three midfielders behind them being carrick in the centre, cleverley and anderson on each side of him or maybe valencia for anderson/cleverley. Need as much mobility and energy in there to combat off the ball. Carrick will sit intercepting and reading thegame. The 3 forwards up front are all creative, we should lay the foundation for them to get forward but like i said, it’s a huge gamble.
Mata, oscar, hazard will take some stopping. United also have to be quick to get behind mikel and be mindful of ramirez lung bursting runs. Chelsea playmakers mainly like to come inside so united have to counter that. the likes of cahill, david luiz, ivanovic and cole can all cause problems. This is as real a test as they come but hope united players aren’t overwhelmed by the threats fron chelsea, need to impose our own game too. Look, united have not won there for years, a lot of fortune is needed in terms of ref, linesman and other aspects. Generally though, need to stop conceding goals, hopefully united’s concentration can sharp up….
Fucking hell people have you read the statement about Tunnis drink driving.
If he was 2 times over the limit at 2pm the following day after a drinking session then he must have consumed a rather large amount the previous night. It seems alot say oh its not drink driving if it was the day before OR he didnt mean it but fucking hell isnt this just as bad. A manchester United youngster feels he is doing so well that he can afford a drinking binge where he quite obviously must have drunk in excess of 10+ pints.
The driving limit in alchohol is around 1½pints for a boy of Tunnis size, 2 times over is 3 pints. Your body burn 1 pints worth of beer every two hours +1 hour for every pint above the last. So at 2pm the following day he had 3 pints in his system that means at 2 + 1 hours or 11am he had 4 pints in his system. At 2 + 1 hours before that or 8am 5pints, 6pints at 5am, 7pints at 2am and more than likely this is when he stopped srinking if he was on an all night bender. But during the drinking session his body is burning alcohol. So 11pm he would have consumed 8 pints (equivalent) and 8 pm 9pints.
Is it just me or is there anyone else out there who thinks this is the wrong fucking attitude for a budding athlete. I doubt Xavi or Iniesta had days like this.
Lads I’ve read a couple of articles about Sir Alex still being interested in WS rumors are Inter are ready to let him go for 15mill
Kanchelskis – to be honest, both their influence has waned, not as crucial to the team’s set up as they once were, especially in giggs’ case, i see both as impact players even though they’ll find it strange to settle into that role after decades of playing regularly. I think the team needs to start evolving, up to players currently in the first team to step up. I don’t think you’ll find like for like replacement for giggs and scholes, these are legends of the game, united can either buy or bring through talented players who possess their own identity. In my opinion, i’m looking at younger players to step into the breach, perhaps the so called answer is already within the club, i think fergie will focus on that, more so than he’d splash extravagantly but of course, if the manager sees quality out there, he’ll buy if affordable.
Swedish Red
I would never dream of discussing another country in Europe and what they have in terms of racism as I havent lived long enough in another country to form a balanced picture. Sweden is a terrible racist shit hole and it stems from more than just the things you hear in the press about the rough inner city areas. In Stockholm you have Rinkeby, Tensta, Hjulsta, Tumba, Botkyrka, Fittja, Hovsjö, Valsta just to name a few in the Stockholm region. Now these are seperate regions in a city of popultaion little over 1 million. This describes a situation of peoples widespread beliefs rather than seperate incidences and troubled areas.
In my reasoning Ive also taken into account the possibilities of imigrants getting work. As you know in order to get any job in Sweden you need to have a degree of education, even working in a shop the employer often asks for Gymnasium competence (Gymnasium school for the non Swede is 18, so you could say A-levels. to work in a fucking supermarket). Now if an imigrant wants to take Gymnasium he has to first be able to speak Swedish at a base level (approximately GCSE level) and this will take atleast three years where the student cannot get benefits as they are studying and not looking for work instead they wil lhave to take a student loan (CSN). This is set at around 6-7000 kronor a month (only term time). A standard rent in Stockholm covers all of that. Then when its time to take Gymnasium (A-levels) it takes around 3 years of further student loans and time. By this time the immigrant has picked up 200 000kr + in debt (18 000 pounds) he sees his friends that have done the same before him unemployed and he see the job prospects next to none. Educations such as Car Maintenance, Wood working and any of the crafts you’d expect that a person may have developed in their third and second world countries have all their education establishments outside the major towns. So any immigrant with a family has zero oppertunity to take such courses as he would have to support two homes if his extended family was unable to move. This is deliberate and planned by the social democrat party to keep a large group of people unemployed to keep inflation down. However this to me is racism. Yes you have given the people the ability to study and live but there is zero oppertunity for the individual to better himself and climb the ladder, more often than not get on the first run of the ladder, to get a job. There are only so many pizza bakers and taxi drivers needed.
I could go on my friend but this is a football forum. For your information I live out in the country as I hate meeting the locals and keep myself to myself.
Tunni fucked up and got a ban,end of fucking story move on
wayne
come on fella. If it was Terry, Cashley or Stevie Me we would be saying what a scummy bunch of chavy arseholes they are. I wont let it go untill Ive heard from OT what the punishment is for the boy. As I said before its great that there is calls to curb racism and biggotry but racism and biggotry (the name calling) has never killed anyone. Drink Driving has.
If you think that pating Rio on the back is worth more than smacking Tunni on the snout then you need to asses some of your principles in life.
Imo if there needs to be a choice between Hernandez & Welbeck, Hernandez should get the place for tactical reasons.
When Hernandez plays, the opposition will not try to play too high a line in case Hernandez slips pass and gets 1v1 with the goakeeper. So when their defence plays slightly deeper, Rooney & Rvp would have more space to work with. If Welbeck plays, its more like banging head on against the barn door, which they could be good at defending
Goat he’s been punished by the law don’t see why Utd should punish him any further.I don’t drink and drive anymore but have done and a large percentage of people who own cars have.
He’s a 19 year old who fucked up and has paid a price up to him to learn from it.I’m no choir boy,people in glass houses and all that so can’t be as pious as you.Far as I’m concerned the subject is closed
Wow so glad I came here to get a bitter opinion of whether Sweden is racist or not. That’s exactly what I look to find in a Manchester United blog! ..oh no wait…
Just glad Tunni was in a land rover. Same with Ando and his totalled Jag I think it was. If that had been a %&*#@! Chevie, lads wouldn’t have walked away from it.
Getting youngsters through their early driving years is a parents nightmare. Hope all of them wise up and grow up. But in the end, it is their responsibility. Very pleased with the long ban for Tunni.
Might a suggest a bicycle?!
Haha
Den, you sarcastic fuck
14 months ban is enough
I fucking wouldn’t ship him out because of that
And I think there will be no additional charges by the club, he screwed big time which is not rare in todays world he’s not the first neither the last to drive while drunk
The lesson has been learnt and I’m sure he’ll not do this again. We move on
@ Goat
Had to laugh too at the “3 times over the limit….at 2pm!!”
Fucking eh, at 19, that was called a Sunday afternoon, but, then again, I wasn’t a professional footballer. To be 3 times over at 2 is one hell of a bloody bender (wipes tear) the good ol’ days.
Catching up with the days news. Really gutted to loose Kagawa for 4 wks. SAF said it was the same type of injury as Ashley Young.
@ Denton
I’d have no problems with Carrick, Anderson AND Cleverely starting. More than enough bite and energy in there to combat Chelsea’s midfield. It would all but guarantee a start to Valencia with Wayne wide left RVP in the middle of a 4-3-3 and Danny and Chicha riding the bench.
@ Proverb
The optimistic, forward looking me says leave Scholes on the bench, but, yes, you’re right, SAF is a creature of habit and loves having his “old guard” starting in games like this. Christ Park could barely get a 10 minute cameo last season yet seemed to be the 1st name on the sheet in big matches….then was shipped off in the summer
Carrick and Scholes to sit in front of the back four is my guess, Wayne and RVP are locks, the back five is all but set, that leaves two to select out of Valencia, Welbeck and Chicha.
But, knowing SAF and his propensity for noodle scratching team sheets, I could be fucking miles off.
I have no idea what you mean Proverb
But I agree, it’s a big mistake by Tunni but everybody makes them and we can only judge him by how he learns from this. He’s got his rightful punishment and that’s hopefully the and of that!
What? You daft fucker
Should I blow the smoke out the window?
Goat Peticoat, I have to agree with you.
What the fuck is a professional athlete doing drinking the head of himself, at any time, during the season. Alcohol should be a complete NO-NO from once they return to preseason training until the season is over. He must have had some belly-full of beer to be still twice over the limit at 2pm the next day. Tunnicliffe physically looks like someone who will have a job to keep the pounds off, somewhat similar build-type to Rooney, so skulling ten or twelve pints at 250 calories a pint is hardly ideal preparation.
Fuck me we have amateur gaa footballers and hurlers that give up the gargle during the season. Surely it is not too much to expect a young man who is as yet unproven and may never actually make it as a regular Utd player, earning £20k a week to prepare as best he possibly can?
Why are we so keen to see only the weaknesses of our lads whereas we marvel at the strengths of our opponents? Is this symptomatic of a covert desire to see SAF out of OT? The constant berating of our midfield and defence is a directly impugns on SAF’s management ability. I understand that most of you consider barca as the benchmark for what a complete team should be -and they are class- yet have any of y’all paid attention to just how brief their players tend to be especially from the midfield up? That sort of height,though best suited for high tempo, possession based interplay, would be given short shrift by EPL opposition where physicality is overlooked and even celebrated. Most of our boys are not vertically challenged. The low centre of gravity advantage of barca therefore is zeroed. This leads me back to the most criticised, castigated and condemned player on our books who by no fault of his, has been made the scapegoat for all our failures: Michael Carrick. He played in the yaya toure role at spurs and was converted to a pure holding midfielder by SAF. With him there, we have won 4 of 6 titles losing out on 2 by a point in 2010 and goal difference in 2012. What more could a neutral actually desire again from him. Why do we not celebrate this collosus of our midfield? Why do we think the grass is greener elsewhere? He has not received more than 10
Yellow cards in the league since he’s been here. He is rarely injured and also seldom commits fouls in dangerous areas. He keeps everything neat and tidy. Of course he makes the occasional mistake. He’s human. Tho a southerner, he has bought into the Utd ethos. This are his peak years and we must get behind him full time to extract the best from this genius before he declines. Tho it seems he does better with fans on his back as opposed to fans hailing him. Compared to biscuits at barca,he is streets ahead in every department. The only advantage barca have over us is Xavi the brain. Tho now he’s on the wane, we are beginning to see a struggling barca. They can only go so far with messi as they did last term before the cracks appear. Little wonder Pep abdicated his throne. Our answer to xavi was scholes and now is clevz. Fletch’s comeback has justified SAF’s faith and patience and will prove crucial on all trophy fronts especially when players need to be rested. Ando and powell are quality back up. Wazza and kagawa to fight it out for who plays in the hole. Giggs and scholes to provide mentoring. Not forgetting our lads in the Reserves. Our midfield cannot possibly be in a much better shape. We do not need no shneider to skew our wage turnover balance and stunt the development of our youth. Besides the formation of a dutch inner caucus to the detriment of team spirit is a real possibility. I frankly don’t see who’s out there that could possibly take us up that notch higher at the moment. Forget about flavors of the month who only raise their game when they meet big teams such as us in order to sell themselves. I promise you all that Carrick will turn in such a performance at the bridge that will win over all his detractors once and for all time. Nothing less than a 2-1 win in favor of Utd by God’s grace. Amen.
Why are we so keen to see only the weaknesses of our lads whereas we marvel at the strengths of our opponents? Is this symptomatic of a covert desire to see SAF out of OT? The constant berating of our midfield and defence is a directly impugns on SAF’s management ability. I understand that most of you consider barca as the benchmark for what a complete team should be -and they are class- yet have any of y’all paid attention to just how brief their players tend to be especially from the midfield up? That sort of height,though best suited for high tempo, possession based interplay, would be given short shrift by EPL opposition where physicality is overlooked and even celebrated. Most of our boys are not vertically challenged. The low centre of gravity advantage of barca therefore is zeroed. This leads me back to the most criticised, castigated and condemned player on our books who by no fault of his, has been made the scapegoat for all our failures: Michael Carrick. He played in the yaya toure role at spurs and was converted to a pure holding midfielder by SAF. With him there, we have won 4 of 6 titles losing out on 2 by a point in 2010 and goal difference in 2012. What more could a neutral actually desire again from him. Why do we not celebrate this collosus of our midfield? Why do we think the grass is greener elsewhere? He has not received more than 10
Yellow cards in the league since he’s been here. He is rarely injured and also seldom commits fouls in dangerous areas. He keeps everything neat and tidy. Of course he makes the occasional mistake. He’s human. Tho a southerner, he has bought into the Utd ethos. This are his peak years and we must get behind him full time to extract the best from this genius before he declines. Tho it seems he does better with fans on his back as opposed to fans hailing him. Compared to biscuits at barca,he is streets ahead in every department. The only advantage barca have over us is Xavi the brain. Tho now he’s on the wane, we are beginning to see a struggling barca. They can only go so far with messi as they did last term before the cracks appear. Little wonder Pep abdicated his throne. Our answer to xavi was scholes and now is clevz. Fletch’s comeback has justified SAF’s faith and patience and will prove crucial on all trophy fronts especially when players need to be rested. Ando and powell are quality back up. Wazza and kagawa to fight it out for who plays in the hole. Giggs and scholes to provide mentoring. Not forgetting our lads in the Reserves. Our midfield cannot possibly be in a much better shape. We do not need no shneider to skew our wage turnover balance and stunt the development of our youth. Besides the formation of a dutch inner caucus to the detriment of team spirit is a real possibility. I frankly don’t see who’s out there that could possibly take us up that notch higher at the moment. Forget about flavors of the month who only raise their game when they meet big teams such as us in order to sell themselves. I promise you all that Carrick will turn in such a performance at the bridge that will win over all his detractors once and for all time. Nothing less than a 2-1 win in favor of Utd by God’s grace. Amen.
Forgive the double post. Hardware issues. Thanks.
@Goat 19:02
I agree. The amount of alcohol he consumed was ALARMING ! To have that much in his system the day after( if that is the truth and he had stopped when he said) and think he was ok to drive is alarming. It shows he has done this bingeing before and may have a major problem. I hope this is a huge wake up call to him! Thank Goodness no one was hurt! Here in the states people are always going on about needing to tighten gun laws. If you compare the stats on people killed and hurt by drunk drivers they dwarf gun numbers by a gigantic margin every year.
Pebble yeah do them good not to fuck either,saps the strength.Think Utd should build a hostel and lock all the young lads in chastity make them sign a contract of servitude
How the fuck do you know anything about Tunni’s physical makeup,never read so much shit in my life
@ Wayne 22:03
Now that you mention it. A good session can sap the vigor. Best make sure they do all the work. Put that in the contracts.
This subject about tunni is buried for me, anymore and it becomes over-drawn. We know drink driving is not good, he’d have been lambasted by fergie, coaches and others. He’s obviously been punished by the so called “law”, the club would have given him an earful of warnings. Thankfully, this issue has not resulted in anything significantly serious which not only would have signalled an end to a burgoening career but could have landed in him being locked up. That is a big wake up call for tunnicliffe. Throughout his time at the club, he’s not had negatives written about him, you can only hope this is a one off. Tunni has got potential to eventually be a first team player, he’s close but he’ll need to learn from mistakes which we all need to do as humans in order to progress in life. Ryan will hopefully add that as he’ll need it,not only to make it to the top but to stay there. Some don’t help when they drag it on and on, i think the seriousness of the matter is noted, a long tedious evaluation is completely unnecessary.
I am really looking forward to this contest. We find out if we are contenders or pretenders right now. Without Lampard to (play the Carrick role)steady their energetic midfield Chelsea and partner with Mikel we can exploit the space in front of their defenders. If their defense plays a high line our passing is good enough to punish them with runs of their shoulders. Javier Hernandez Hernandez Hernandez looked scalpel sharp this week and had the officials not robbed us we would have had at least one more goal versus Braga . No Lampard gives us an advantage and forces Hazard or Mata to play midfield maestro.
This is not a game for Scholes to start! His lack of pace and poor tackling will have us a man down in short order. He will get suckered in and that will be that.
As Kanchelkis first mentioned here and we all know, Cashley does NOT want to see Tony V.
Hattip to Deamondada @ 21:08.
“? Your take on us making them react to our strengths and retaining the initiative is quite correct.
When you said Carrick was a Southerner, I thought ” What, is he from Alabama or Georgia and does he eat boiled peanuts
After looking at the angles my call is…… We will win for sure if we score first AND do not concede in the first 20 minutes. At worst we draw but I think they are there for the taking.
One last thing it’s impossible to determine how much Tunni drank unless you know the time he started and stopped drinking,so all of Goats calculations add up to a hill of beans without these factors
Wayne – goat’s turned into a c.s.i detective. Great way to put all that together, even though none of us have an idea about the full details of the incident. Goat, you’d be sacked as a detective now.. Ha.
samuel one thing for sure that analogy takes bullshitting to a new level
LoneStar. Lol. You sure are right about that. We southerners sure do love us our legumes. Be it peas, beans or whatever have you in a pod! Don’t forget the peppery sauce! I just shudder with excitement at the expectation of us having our full complement of players especially defenders back! We’ll be tearing up the opposition you betcha! Last season’s injury mare is behind us for all time in Jesus’ Name. Amen.
i really don’t think religious beliefs and sports should overlap,people want to believe the world is only 2000 to 3000 yrs old and was created in 6 days whatever gets someone through life.
What really gets my goat is the overlap whether it be players or fans that God or Jesus is taking sides,quite frankly its a insult to religion imo
All types of religion should be kept off a Utd blog praising Jesus is just not appropriate.I actually think Jesus was a pretty cool guy,first socialist who paid the price for defying the hierarchy whether it was Romans or Jews but i’m pretty sure he didn’t perform miracles and Mary Madeline wasn’t a whore..Oh and another thing all those women who were tortured and killed for being witches by the Catholic Church well what can one say,lets not forget all the perverts that became priests just to fuck little boys and oh the pope who protects pedophiles but preaches peace every Christmas.I won’t even get started on the little girl who got shot in the the head by the taliban because she wanted a education or the woman who got stoned to death in iran because her husband cheated on her
Keep religion the fuck off a Utd blog because your either brainwashed or retarded religion is evil always has been and is used by evil people to control the weak
Sorry to burst your bubble Wayne but God does take sides. What do you expect puny Utd to do when faced with the Goliath sized spending power of the axis of evil -unaccountably wealthy- uber rich other than say a prayer and believe that our pebble will fly straight and true from our slingshot for the only chink in the ironclad armor of these behemoths? When I call upon the Lord when we encounter PROPER sides, I do not ask for favoritism rather for his grace that the best team wins. Of course you and I know that Utd IS the best team there is with the best manager yet we all know that the best don’t always win in footie as a result of a myriad of uncontrollable,unbalancing variables. A last man red card ref error call for instance. You gotta pray against that. SAF does for sure. Besides,as you so rightly put it,it sure makes me breathe that much easier. Some folk on here use the Lord’s Name in vain jesting and swearing yet nobody bats an eyelid. I believe I should be allowed to call upon His Name for the good of our dear and great club. Peace.
mate you need mental help just goes to my greater point,what you just said borders on insane
Whether you believe it or not, supernatural phenomena does exist in this temporal world. I myself have witnessed quite a few of what you described as miracles and,despite my science background, couldn’t explain it away from any laws of nature. I know religion has been quite a divisive topic in our world yet rarely do you find this to be a result of the founders rather of over zealous acolytes misinterpreting teachings. Be that as it may, religion has also done a whole lot of good for humanity on the other hand. It balances out. We do not know as the world would have been without religion. Probably we may be practicing the law of the jungle-survival of the fittest- just like the wild animals do. Could be cataclysmic if you asked me. And do give your life to Jesus Christ. It’s not late as yet. At least you can’t fault any of his teachings now can you?
listen mate you’re fucking crazy
Are you still there? We can all get along as civil human beings without the need to be intolerant or rude to one another. Well I just want you to know that not having faith in religion can also be counterintuitively construed as a religious faith. Consider this scenario. I approach you and greet you. You greet me back. I give you my name, courtesy demands you give me yours or an alias. In the same manner it follows that if I ask you to convert to my religion you may easily say either yes give me more details or no,I am ok with my beliefs thank you very much. No big deal. Mutual respect and goodwill is all that is required for World Peace. Not intolerance and avarice my brother. Laters.
Tomorrow would be a cracking game. It could be a high scoring thriller. Neither ours nor chavs defence id that good. Scholes should not start. It would be best if he comes as sub that way he contributes more. With kagawa out Nani could get some games provided he shows right attitude. My line up would be
Raf Evans Rio Evra
Carrick Cleverly
Tony V Welbeck
Rooney
Rvp
Danny,Rooney and RVp can keep on changing their roles. I do love to give ando a chance but I feel he could be inefective. Cleverly is a better choice as he also covers for the defender.
Hernandez.Scholes and Nani could be used as super sub if we are trailing.
That’s the problem though mate although religion is supposed to be about tolerance and love,its just about intimidation ignorance torture death and stupidity.Don’t know how any sane intellect decent man can tolerate that,religion is a outdated evil that needs to be abolished because the preaching of Jesus just doesn’t exist anymore. All it is is a political manipulation and a tool for violence,with a bunch of mindless muppets letting evil get away with it,religion in its present form is the most disgusting thing about modern society,its a distorted lie,so if you want to preach it fuck off to a regilous blog.Don’t want to hear praise to Jesus on a Utd blog
As long as the Giggs and scholes don’t start I fancy our chances. Fletcher still needs some minutes under his belt, he looked so exhausted in the 2nd half
No way giggs could start against chelsea. There will be no reason to start with giggs. He has been totally out of form this season. It is not right on part of giggs also. He should retire gracefully and not with criticism. It would be better for him and the club if he is sparingly used without blocking the development of any youngsters.
As far as scholesy goes , I feel he is playing better than Giggs but that doesn’t mean he should start. H e looks exhausted even in the first half so no point in starting with him.
I have a good feeling we will win tomorrow. Had the same feeling before the anfield visit this season.
Hope United go for them this time from the start, no need being scared of their attacking trio of Mata, Oscar and Hazard afterall they are not as good as Barca or Real. Barring any changes, it’ll probably be the team that started against Stoke that’ll start again
Quantum mechanic’s is the only way , we are all one always have been all ways will be
The unified field.any way Spurs ripped Chelsea to bits last week.don’t beleive the hype
whats this about us wanting cashley cole?? he’s a class defender (got better with age as evra has got worse with age) but i dont want this cunt anywhere near our team. If fergy wants yet another left back with not gibbs? in him and rafael we would have two of the top young fullbacks in the prem. Plus i cant see why cole would want to leave chelsea (theres no way we could offer more than chelsea could) and they looking good this season
DDG
RAFA EVANS RIO EVRA
VALENCIA CARRICK CLEVERLEY YOUNG
ROONEY
CHICHARITO
daemonda – Carrick isnt Southern mate! He is a Geordie.
Scholes won’t start in a two.
I am with Wayne, the Chavs are fucking over rated. ONE striker who is dogshit. A little fag cunt in Hazard who has been missing for weeks and was culpable for Shaktars second on Tuesday and that little fucking stick insect Oscar. Fuck em’, let them worry about United and our firepower. We have generally played well at the Bridge just not got the results. Mata is the dangerman.
Its these big games where United’s defence actually stays focused. As for relying on Scholes we did fine without him up at Newcastle.
ddg
rafa evans rio evra
valencia carrick cleverley young
rooney
chicarito
If Chicharito doesnt start on Sunday alongside RVP then something is seriously fucked up.
Chicharito saved our skins and single handedly won the game. RVP is the real deal world class big game player.
Anderson and Cleverley should also start but probably wont either. Valencia and Nani should start even though Nani has been shit he is still able to win a game for us.
De Gea should start as he is better than Lindegaard IF he has a decent central defence that can support and protect him. God help us if Evans and Carrick are defending again. Rafael Da Silva is fantastic at the moment in terms of effort and determination alone he is first on the sheet. Buttner isnt up to this yet so Evra starts too. Personally Wooton should be given a chance and I would bring Powell off the bench at some point alongside Scholesy.
October 26, 2012 at 20:42
ididnotzeeit
Me too fella. Thats the reason I never carried on playing. Fitness. The skills, composure and reading the game was my forté. I played DM or either side of the defence. Could even play in goal but I had depression and loved the booze. Im not saying I wouldnt have done what Tunni did and sometimes it feels strange telling someone off for something I would have done but then again Im not a UNited player. Im dissapointed for the lad thats where my frustration stems. Dont turn out like me.
October 26, 2012 at 23:22
samuel – united WE stand
You’re right fella I dont know all the details rather used the very limited details at my disposal. In the news story it stated he was twice over the limit at 2pm. I know the average time for alcohol to be burned in the body as I have on the odd occasion gone on benders and needed to drive the following day or soon after. Anything else I havent mentioned just that thats been given to me. Who would want to be a cop anyway, slated and screamed at by the dregs of society and having to come to terms with dead bodies, being shot at and some pretty horific stuff. If I was a cop Id shoot the fucking lot of you then nearing capture turn the gun on myself. Fucking result.
daemondada
Are you spiritulistic or something. You come across as a right nonce. The other day you said to StR that you lifted a curse on his blog which you “inadvertantly” put on the blog and ruined it making all the regualrs dissapear. Now your arsing about with a ficticious cloud of fanny batter in the sky that looks down on us saving us from the russian oiltard Abramovich. (Being a religious man you would understand the meaning to religion of Abraham – no doubt – is god a turn coat?).
God doesnt look down on us because he doesnt exist, nor did Jesus in the sense of being gods son, nor did mohammed in the same light. Allah is a myth so is the story of the bible, quran and all other religious mumbo jumbo.
The nearest thing to a god there has been would in my humble opinion be George Best or maybe even Sir Alex but he would have to have a serious sense of humour. I mean to start God was born in Scotland is as silly as Jesus walking on water or moses parting the sea. What a metophor that was for a dirty old bearded git spreading the legs of a squirter – get stuck in my son.
@SHINJI THE NINJA
October 27, 2012 – 13:09
Says:
If Chicharito doesnt start on Sunday alongside
RVP then something is seriously fucked up Chicharito saved our skins and single
handedly won the game. RVP is the real deal
world class big game player.
Anderson and Cleverley should also start
Valencia and Nani
should start even though Nani has been shit
he is still able to win a game for us
Fucked up line-up, we would get bettered if we played that line up vs chelsea
I’m even surprised you didn’t select rooney into your line-up
Goat Peticoat my dear brother. Fair enough. Different strokes for different folks I guess. I done my bit. You are obviously a responsible adult. What I don’t understand is why folk should get their hackles up when a fella drops a religious remark yet remain unperturbed by the willy nilly usage of those same religious symbols in vain jesting or swearing. Smells of double standards to me. Anyways,tho I’m not the type to crave attention,it appears that I’ve been given till year’s end to abide with you guys. You can’t blame a fella for trying to make peace with his Maker. Try as you may you just can’t fault in the slightest ANY of the teachings of Jesus Christ. Definitely not a shabby role model from a secular viewpoint. As I said earlier, I have observed quite a few supernatural phenomena that are unexplainable by natural laws nor can be reproduced under controlled settings. I just gotta play it safe and get with the program. Now let’s just forget about all that and get back to Utd. Sure makes me glad that Carrick is belatedly getting the respect he deserves on the international stage. Tho that could be a risk to us yet I know he absolutely loves to play for his country. If I could choose one of the lads as me best mate it’s deffo Carrick. Absolutely love how SAF is building the team around him. Calm at the eye of the storm anyone? The number of our internationals is ever increasing. Good for the experience tho! Take care and stay safe in Christ Jesus y’all. I’m out.
Berbatov broke a rib against reading but still played on and scored, fair play where its due! shame they ended up throwing away the lead he gave them so close to the end.
Berba has always been a classy player
A lazy fucker but oh boy can he finish!!
Take that!!!
Today has been really slow on ROM
I expect a really huge buzz tomorrow
But its a very sad state still
Here’s hoping the regulars return with a bang
Now bring them chavs for dinner
United United United!!!!!!
Emptyhad living by its name
A lot of empty seats, again
The City Is yours? 20,000 empty seats , are you fucking sure ?
That’s massive shitty fans a bunch of shitfans soon they will be playing on Thursday nights
Pep Guardiola to manage Man Utd from August 2013
Sir Alex Ferguson has accepted it and will move to a Football Director role in June 2013. Marca says that Guardiola will join the team as early as January next year but only to “be a shadow at Manchester United” was the best way it could be translated.
The story running by Marca contradicts Ed Woodward’s line earlier this week when he said: “We have a view as to what type of manager we want and how and when we’ll go about it. But it’s in the drawer and long may it stay in the drawer.”
Source : Marca TV
Goat
You are a shameful atheist who is also a racist. Atheism is full of hatred itself. You think you are perfect because you don’t need what you call “imaginary friend”, but deep inside you feel hollow and lonely. What make you different than John Terry or Luis Suarez? NONE! So shut up and lets speak about manchester united.
Love how the city players don’t give a fuck about the game. It’s like they’re only thinking of what to buy for the next paycheck! Hope Michu puts in one legal goal in the second half!
Also love all the life lessons on here about religion and racism! They’re truly inspiring!
@ Red Robin
“Atheism is full of hatred itself” I would have a discussion with you and it would probably turn into an argument. Which is why i always remember the following
Don’t argue with idiots. They’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
x
Arse got lucky today, but man how bad are QPR. With so much investment and Hughes can’t buy a win. One of the worst teams I have ever seen in EPL. QPR are playing Reading and Saints at home in the next three games and this might be the only reason that Hughes keeps his job.
P.S.Hateful nature is not attached to atheism but rather human nature. I am sure there are plenty hateful and loving people on both sides.
Ice Cube
Goat is a prove that atheism is full of hatred. You can read his statements posted above. But lets not discuss it further. I have said that I won’t discuss any religions or atheism here but Manchester United. Manchester United is my religion here.
But if you want, I can discuss anything else with you in other place.
People like goat make me sick because of his out of place statements. This is a Manchester United blog, so discussion about theism and atheism are simply annoying.
Atheism, in fact, has NOTHING to do with satanism. We do not all hate Christians. We’re not
all evil.
Besides, just by being intolerant and judgemental
of Atheists, you are sinning.
Holy crap, let’s fucking put this conversation to bed, this is a united blog for christ sake
And goat please you’re becoming a weirdo mate
You never once discussed a football on here
You’re either lambasting about something that no one doesn’t really give a shit about or you are babbling about racism in football, jeez what has this place come to
Tough break for Berba. Didn’t stop him from proving his worth though. Again.
Red Robin
Your text towards/against me was full of shite. Nothing made any sense in anything you wrote.
For your information Gerrard and Suarez are Catholics the pair of them so HOW i
are they similar to me or me of them.
Atheism isnt evil its normal. I belong to the world where evidence is the basis of my being. I think therefore I am. There is zero evidence of an ET being that created anything but plenty of evidence to the contary. Like burning witches or dunking them, cutting off the heads of chickens and telling the future by blood trails or the patterns left by tealeaves its all hocus pocus, people controlling medieval bullshit. Im a man of the 21st century, I need no comfort in an after life or a heaven and thus do not need to waste what life I have on some cloud of justice or celebrate the lives of primordial pop stars.
Fucking grow up pal.
Yea, yea yea.. Goat does not hate christians, or muslims or other people who believe in religions by saying religions are just myths. Goat is full of love! Bullshit denial!
If you are an atheist, you will hate anything with theism. It is as simple as that. Unfortunately, this is not theological blog and we didn’t discuss about god. This topic of theism and atheism should not being talked about here because its out of place! I am very fine with one of us venting his anger towards Man Shitty like Gaz did. But venting your hatred towards other people believe like what goat did? Come on!
Some people need to be reminded that this blog is being read by many people. Just because we are anonymous here on internet, does not mean we can say anything we like. This kind of attitude really make me puke.
Goat
Vent your anger somewhere else! you are a freak.
Goat
You said you are 21st century man but you are acting like a caveman. LOL.
Red Robin
Your arguments are just insults. Thats the sign of a man without an argument or any reasoning. I have no anger it was you that said all Atheists are evil. I see Atheists as the state in which we were born, as you put it God intended. Religion is something taught to us, something that corrupts the free thinking mind. Indeed Caveman Id prefer to be, born of your so called lord with no desire to dress up for special occassions and bow down to an imaginary being, rather just be natural without religious constraints.
By all means throw the insults because its you that looks archaic, lol
Goat
So my argument is an insult while yours is not. Pal, my argument is that I don’t want to discuss anything else but Manchester United. And you are a caveman because you don’t read my memo. You can vent your believe somewhere else but not here.
Wake up mate, its 21st century already! Lol.
My point exactly. How can I vent my belief when I have non. Its you that claim all non believers are evil. I claim all non believers are neutral and decided not to take a side when there is no war.
But like you Im glad to keep things football.
**you couldn’t read my memo.
Goat
I don’t care what you believe. Seriously, I don’t care. And seriously, I find it annoying that people talk out about your belief here in this blog while attacking other people believes. Its out of place mate. Get yourself together! You said you were leaving this blog at the other day? Posts from people like you will just make readers annoyed.
Goat
You believe in atheism, others don’t. You believe that god is non-existent. Wth?!
And I never said non-believer are evil. You can read my posts again. What I said that atheist like u is full of hate. Which is shown by your posts.
You cant believe in atheism you are labelled an atheist. Someone who doesnt believe cannot be judged a believer. I dont believe god doesnt exist as I dont see any evidence or need for such a thing as a god in the first place. Im as much as a non believer (as you put it) in god as I am a non believer in a sherbert puppy spawned from the chief zombie in the zombie apocolypse.
I dont believe in atheism as by doing so I have to believe in other atheists. So in other words I have to believe in peope who dont believe in something they or I do not feel the need to either believe in or believe to exist or to ever have existed and thus believe in the unbelieveable to us nonbelivers. Believe me I dont want to shit on your belief but by believing in your beliefs and then calling non believers in your belief believers of atheism that is a belief in non beliefs I believe is just silly.
By Ice Cube standard, you are an idiot.
Red Robin the only people who are intolerant and try and impose their values on other people are religious,think they know best for everyone look at the Republicans with the womens rights,contraception and abortion issues and the other extreme the fucking crazy muslins.
Whatever the reglion don’t live in the real world and border on insanity,don’t give a fuck what you believe but don’t need your crazy shit infringing on my life,religion is fucking evil so fuck off
LonestarRed says:
I am really looking forward to this contest. We find out if we are contenders or pretenders right now.
- Agree, too early to tell, don’t think so.. next 3 games will show us up whether we will complete for the top or not. We need a win at Chelsea. This will burst their bubble, and I can see them starting to collapse after that..
I hope we dont even play Scholes and Giggs at all in this game, and that Ando actually does start.
We need to press them them the entire game, any period of cavalier play will cost us..
As long as we turn up and play this game like the title depends on it, don’t see why we can’t walk away with full points.
If we go there for a draw like we did with City last year we’re fucked.
Abuse galore on here, just because You believe in God does not give you the right condemn atheists, the same goes for the atheists, you have no right to label religious people evil. Everyone has a right to believe what he or she wants Lets talk football please!!!
Don’t see to much evil coming from atheists do you want the laundry list the other way around? I can give you one and believe me it will go on forever so maybe if you don’t want to get involved stay out of it because for one I’m tired of the abuse,interference and violence coming from something that doesn’t even make sense to any semi intelligent normal person
Another thing this all started because some crackhead figured he’d cursed ROM to get rid of the regulars and God is rooting for Utd on Sunday although if memory serves me right God would condone that.The people at the very top of any regilon are evil people taking advantage of weak,brainwashed,stupid uneducated people and that’s not me saying that,its the History books from day 1
“wayne says:
Pebble yeah do them good not to fuck either,saps the strength.Think Utd should build a hostel and lock all the young lads in chastity make them sign a contract of servitude
How the fuck do you know anything about Tunni’s physical makeup,never read so much shit in my life”
No need for the hostel or chasitity just an expectation that a professional player would act just that, professional. As for never having read so much shit in your life, well, you obviously don’t read back your own posts. GOBSHITE.
2 days and i finally get an answer,pick any of my posts you want that you think is shit and let us discuss it.Not sure if you understand playing pro football is just a job like anything else.I’m fairly sure your job doesn’t entail anything too complicated but’s lets assume your not as thick as you appear to be
You go to work do the job and show up everyday,then one day the boss said need you to stop drinking and toking going to get a drug test everyday,would you feel violated ? and unless you’re a total loser[which i suspect you might be] you’d tell him to fuck off
Bottom line mate what Tunni does in his free time has nothing to do with Utd and as long as he shows up every day and is applying himself that’s all that matters.It’s a fucking job not slavery
Wayne
Who is trying to impose their believes here? Its goat and you. Look at your posts and goat posts! And then read mine. The only thing I’m trying to impose that we suppose to talk footy and Manchester United. This blog has really turned into a joke nowadays. Sad but true.
Red Robin I have no beliefs except your beliefs are fuckng nonsense
Whatever Goat or I believe were not trying to enforce it on anyone else,so you figure it out
Wayne. Its not me who judge but the readers of this blog.
WAYNE my response is to ALL of the arguing going on! not to you only, its a football blog and hatred should be no part of it. Starting any argument laundry list style will take you nowhere. Is it too much to appeal for peace on the blog?
I’ve got a feeling Fletcher might start, It would be fantastic for that to happen
Wayne, the reason it took me 2 days to reply is that I have a life and other things to do. And unlike your life mine does not involve me glued to a laptop pontificating my own self serving missionaries and lambasting most other peoples opinions. Your lectures will not change my right to express my opinion on the above topic in the same way that I would not attempt to force my beliefs on anyone else.
You do not know what I do for a living but it is fair to assume that a “thick” person would not be capable of doing it so your assumption is a fair one. That, however, is where the fairness ends as it seems that anyone posting an opinion on this website that differs to yours is open to, not debate, but childlike name calling and your arrogant belief that your view is the only one that matters.
I propose that this site be renamed “The Rupublik of Wayne”. You are what gives blogs a bad name.
Playing professional football is not like anyother job, there a very few other jobs where an unproven youngster can earn the average industrial wages in 1 week, and where the working day is about 3 hours! I played semi-pro for 12 years and that was privillaged enough so I have a very good idea what a professional footballers job entails.