The decision of Manchester United and Liverpool not to have an embroidered red poppy on their shirts has caused quite a fuss. United have said that the poppy will not show up on their shirts and with all the work and charity they already do for the armed forces, don’t feel that joining other Premiership clubs in having a poppy on their shirt will add to the contribution.
The Daily Mail is predictably incensed by the whole thing after they launched a campaign to get all clubs to follow suit. Either you put a poppy on your shirt or you’re a disgusting prick who shames the memory of all those who have died fighting for our country. Is that what this is all about? When you put money in the charity tin are you doing it to help out or are you doing it so you put a poppy on your jacket to show the world you’re a charitable person? Can we show respect to those that have died fighting without wearing a poppy? No?
Stoke and Blackburn had said they weren’t going to have a poppy on their kit but have succumbed to the Mail‘s campaign. United have confirmed that they won’t be doing the same though.
“We are very proud of the work we do with the armed forces and we do not feel a poppy on the shirt would add to our contribution,” said a United spokesperson. “Our staff and officials will be wearing them as usual and we are confident we are doing the right thing.”
Of course, on Sunday Chelsea will make a big song and dance about it. We’ll have the Chelsea pensioners wheeled out and the Mail will bleet on about what an English hero John Terry is. Terry, who has always said England is more important to him than Chelsea, was recently signing the prosthetic legs and arms of soldiers who had been on duty in Iraq and Afghanistan.
“They love their football, they like to look up to us but I would like to be in their shoes and do what they do,” Terry said. “It’s great they want to do that and they are brilliant at their job. I would love to serve, of course. Put your life on the line for the country – I would love to.”
Go on then. Give up your £170k a week and go and do what you would love. Instead of talking to press about how you would love to do it, prove it, and actually put yourself in their shoes. What’s stopping you? Go to the front lines and fight for your country, you British bulldog, you! What? Watching your mates die, killing people, fucking up your head forever, leaving your wife and kids, being terrified, not knowing why you’re there. Don’t fancy it, John? Neither do I. If I did, I would be there, just like Terry would. Terry cries when he loses a bloody football match, what use would he be in Afghanistan?! Fuck sake, people talk rubbish.
Still, I don’t really understand why United aren’t getting involved, but even more puzzling is Liverpool. It’s very unlike them not to jump on the mourning bandwagon. They usually love an excuse to get the black armbands out so I wonder why they are reluctant to have the poppy. Maybe, like us, their American owners are skint and simply don’t want to fork out the cash for a new kit!
Read what The Guardian, The Mirror and The Daily Mail has to say about it all.
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Terry said that? What a fucking prick! It’s all when and good saying that, but it would be a different story if he fucking went out there! I don’t think he would love it seeing his friends killed infront of him and people having their limbs blowing off. What a disgrace that bloke is, those comments are bloody sickening!
A simple poppy makes us disrespectful?Lol
John Terry, what a gigantic cunt. That comment is pathetic, as is the Daily Mail’s ridiculous “ANYONE WHO DOESN’T WEAP A POPPY IS A COMMUNIST AND SHOULD BE KILLED” campaign.
I don’t wear a poppy, although I still donated my money to the British Legion, I don’t think that my wearing a poppy really does anything, and I’m almost glad in a way that United haven’t bowed down to the idiotic far-right Daily Mail brigade.
Reminds of that Seinfeld episode where Kramer refused to wear a cancer ribbon. “You must wear tha ribbon!!”
“Put your life on the line for the country – I would love to.”
Bollocks,you little wuss.
Scott,I must say I laughed out loud at the line:”They usually love an excuse to get the black armbands out”.
I don’t know what Remembrance Day is,I’m guessing it’s to do with the army and remembering it,but there’s a wonderful comment on the Mail’s page by Simon:It’s the first article on the page,and it says,
“Well done MU, LV and Bolton for resisting the pressure to wear a poppy. Our fathers and forefathers fought two wars to stop the mob and thugs imposing their views on others.”
That is just so true.
Terry is getting to be an annoying hypocrite. Hope he misses a penalty tonight.
I am going to change my name to Don Macheda.
OK?
What gets me over this, is that the FA are very happy for clubs to change the design of their kits by adding a poppy. They are quite happy for Everton to play in a special purple shirt and a couple of years back they allowed both Everton and Liverpool to wear special badges and markings on their shirts to celebrate Liverpool 08 Capital of Culture.
Yet, should a team such as United happen to become World Champions, the FA and Prem league do not allow for a Wolrd Champions badge to be used on Uniteds shirts. This is the same FA who will be the first people to add another star above Englands badge should England win the World Cup.
This poppy thing is not about respect for the soldiers, its about point scoring and the farcical articles in several papers do more harm than any non poppy appearance. The way this fuss is kicked off, you would think it was the first time since the war that its been comemorated, I dont recall this fuss over the last 64 years when poppys never appeared on shirts.
Jesus.
It’s just anafer axampull of the nanny state mate! It’s a bleedin outrage I tells ya.
Wheys the blady freedom ta speak an do wat ya want!
I believe this to be silly, do these poppy facists wear cancer or aids ribbons all year round? And what about them stupid fucking blue arm bands folk wore…….does all that not matter anymore?
Assholes.
Yip.
How about the British Legion selling out to the British National Party?!
Before the donation from the BNP:
http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/about-us/media-centre/news/general/an-open-letter-to-nick-griffin-chairman-of-the-bnp-and-mep-for-north-west-england
After the donation from the BNP:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8250086.stm
Since the Poppy represents fallen soldiers such as those who lost their lives fighting against Nazism and Faschism it proves a major conflict of interests.
No disrespect to any fallen soldiers or families and friends who have lost loved ones. But that just had to be said.
Before any newspapers try and paint Manchester United as disgusting pricks perhaps they should have a look at that point.
Fcukin ABU’s make me sick.
all british club should have poppys but at the end of the day it’s the clubs choice
I’m personally dissapointed that the club has decided to shy away from this small representation. On the other hand, if you have a look at any of the press conferences pre champions league, I think you’ll find there was only one player interviewed in the competition wearing a poppy… Michael Owen
this is a personal choice. I wear a poppy out of respect for my grandfather who fought in the 2nd World War, but that is my choice.
Should any club be forcing players to wear a poppy, should Utd be forcing Eire players like O’Shea and Gibson to wear a poppy or Chelsea be forcing Ballack to wear one?
I for one are happy for Utd not to bow to pressure from the Daily Mail, Utd do a lot for the Armed Forces most not publicised.
Fucking Twat! This cunt doesn’t even have the basic human decency to leave handicapped parking spaces for their rightful occupants and he wants to talk about putting his life on the line for others. Do me a favour! Terry’s idea of sacrifice is waiting till a girl reaches the legal age of consent.
Pat Tillman was a professional American Football player who actually left the his team and joined up to go and serve if Afghanistan. A few months later he was killed by friendly fire. Terry is just a cunt trying to play hero.
As for the dippers, they usually reserve their sanctimonious bullshit for uniquely scouse affairs. They don’t have sympathy for others, they just want others to feel sympathy for them.
We live in a country where we have the freedom of choice.
If you decide not to wear a poppy it does not make you a disgusting prick.
So why should wearing a poppy be forced up on people?
It’s ridiculous. Things like this have no place in football.
“Terry’s idea of sacrifice is waiting till a girl reaches the legal age of consent.”
Class,mate,pure class.
I agree with everything you said.
@theboogeyman
Thanks, mate!
Terry cries when he loses a bloody football match, what use would he be in Afghanistan?! Fuck sake, people talk rubbish.
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The day we embrodier a poppy onto our shirt is the day from which il never buy another shirt. We r supported worldwide and the majority of fans like myself don’t give two flying fucks about the poppy appeal, the refusal to bow to this pressure makes me prouder to b a united fan
It’s very easy to say it but it is very difficult actually to do so.
My uncle is in the Army and i am fortunate enough to see their work quite closely as i was with him for about a month in twang (india-china border). I must say they are the real heroes. The life they life we can’t even think about living our life that way. The sacrificies they make is just unbelievable.
So Mr. John Terry just shut the fuck up.
“If football clubs or their supporters want to wear a poppy great, if they
don’t fine. It is called choice and it is a right men and women have fought to defend throughout our history.”
Well said Mr. Brian McNally (Mirror).
Terry cries when he loses a bloody football match, what use would he be in Afghanistan?! Fuck sake, people talk rubbish.
Haha , that was a great one . And very true , none of the footballing pussies are tough enough to be on the war front , the only one i can think about is Roy Keane , he had make a good soldier .
It is every club’s choice afterall, no club should be slated or labelled shameful for not having it embroidered on the kit. I don’t think it shows any disrespect to dead soldiers, as the utd spokesman said, the staff, officials and possibly Fergie will be wearing it so it’s clear that’s showing respect. It’s just between the choice of having it placed on the shirts. Maybe a few of the players will wear the poppy too.
As for terry, he has shown us his true nobility by suggesting he’d risk his life to fight for his country. Pfft, everything that comes out of his mouth is total and utter bullshit.
lol @ Wazza
@ ashhotjet90, I think Rooney would make an excellent soldier too. So would the maniac Vinnie Jones. John Terry though would be a good person to have at a funeral, to get people emotional and join in crying with him. He would set the perfect mourning atmosphere.
Haha , i thought of Rooney but he’s a soft guy outside the match from the videos i have seen of him . John Terry would be good at delivering the news of martyrdom to the family , thats the only thing i see him doing in the army .
Could you imagine coming across Vidic on a battlefield?
john terry must look at his comments and feel embarassed.
@barab
Well a lot of ppl do give a fuck mate and im one of them, its up to the club wether they ave poppy’s on their shirts, if they dont it doesn’t mean they dont care.
….and never again repeat that lie – Dulce et Decorum est pro Patria mori.
Redbeard-The other side would shit themselves if they saw Vida and Vinnie Jones running towards them.And that’s without guns.
To wear the poppy is a personal choice, well done to the daily hate mail for misunderstanding that simple concept. Naturally, soldiers gave up their lives so that the daily mail could have the ‘freedom’ to dictate what others do and condemn those who don’t comply.
I’m not that politically correct myself but they can take their extremist views about immigrants and homosexuals and shove them up their bollocks.
@willierednut- spot on
@RCWIS
Nice 1 mate.
Pretty funny considering the Daily Mail supported the NSDAP.. but nothings really changed, still the right-wing fascists they always have been.
politics and football don’t have to mix do they? also, you have to think that their is some corporation somewhere making a huge personal profit from the poppy design, trademark, and production contract.
i support the grass roots effort of people wanting to show their respect and honoring veterans, but i thought one of those wars which is being honored in this tribute was against fascists and fascism! now they try to make people fall in line through shame and public intimidation. the hypocrisy!
City down 0-2 at home to Burnley
And Cleverley just scored for Watford.
tom cleverley again thats like his 7th of the season and has 3 assists i think, class player, deffo going to make it here, brandys just scored for my local team aswell
True. People go to football to get away from all that politics stuff, not to be reminded about it.
Fair point rooniho, the massive club 2 down at home against burnley.
I jinxed it, sorry guys.
fckn s-w-phillips! scarface looks shite.
did eagles score!? always liked brandy, too.
hope cleverley makes it into the squad in the near future. he makes plays and gets goals and assists in every game he’s involved with.
and imagine what great songs can be sung with a name like cleverley!
@Jack
Seven goals from midfield already? Really impressive.
“Stoke City and Blackburn Rovers quickly followed suit, admitting the ‘Poppygate’ campaign launched in Sportsmail was a key factor in their decision to join the majority of the Premiership clubs in honouring Britain’s war dead and injured.” – Do they have a circle jerk whilst compiling this tripe?
Thanks for reminding me why I don’t buy this paper. As somebody in the comments section, to use the words ‘stubbornly’ and ‘refuse’ is misleading. They’re making assumptions that are themselves misleading, trying to amass favour with its right-leaning readership over our “refusal” to concede to their ‘Poppygate’ campaign.
I suppose it makes sense that they’ve attacked the clubs, what with us employing dirty foreigners and all. With all due respect to those the day mourns, fuck the Daily Mail. It’s a shit paper, comprised of the self-appointed moral brigade.
Just had a quick look at Pompey. Only a couple of their players have poppies on their shirts- does that count?
Cuntlitos Tevez is not scoring as many as he didnt score with us.
Hope that makes sense to someone – waste of money little judas argie halloween mask wearing fucker. City may be a massive club with a history that is second to none but I would still prefer to play for our little Trafford club any day of the week, ok so you cant sit wherever you want like at Eastlands and we maybe dont have the global brand that City have but we do have our pride.
I know we havent won it since its inception and that we have never even been close to winning it but I am convinced that one day we will have what it takes and against the odds and despite all the doubters Manchester United Football Club will win the Nobel Peace prize.
HAHAHAHA!
Come on Burnley !!
Shame on the Daily Mail and their tawdry and divisive campaign, which demeans the very cause they claim to speak up for. However, I think it’s a pity United haven’t put the poppy on shirts, not least because many United players fought in both World Wars, and some died, such as Sandy Turnbull, scorer of the winning goal in United’s first FA Cup Final in 1909, and star of the first two league title winning teams in 1908 and 1911. He died at Arras I think, the same place as Matt Busby’s father got killed by a sniper.
Tufty makes a good point that United were refused permission to put the Club World Cup Winners badge on their shirts last season, which was a very poor decision, and looked like an all-too typically anti-United response by the authorities.
On the issue of Irish players and the poppy, it’s worth pointing out the huge numbers of Irishmen who fought in both world wars, including hundreds of thousands from what is now the Republic. There were massive Irish casualties at the Battle of the Somme in 1916, for example, a high proportion of whom were volunteers as Ireland was excluded from Conscription when it was introduced in 1915. During WW 2 around half a million Irish people crossed the Irish Sea from the Republic to join British forces , despite the neutrality of Eire. No doubt their reasons for volunteering were mixed, including unemployment at home, but it’s clear that many joined because they wanted to see Hitler and Nazism defeated. In recent years there have been Remembrance events in Ireland, with official recognition of Irish sacrifices in both World Wars. That’s surely a good thing , and may help bring about a more general reconciliation. I would defend United’s right to make their own decision, but I think it was wrong.
@ barab
What wonderful compassion and empathy you have for your fellow man.
Tiny tears does talk some shit sometimes ha ha what a wanker
Burnley aren’t wearing them either!
On the subject of Tom Cleverly, an old friend of mine who’s a long-term Watford season-ticket holder says Cleverley is a real cracker of a player. He reckons he’s an absolute certainty to make it to the top with United.
Terrys comments are decent comments, fair play to him for them.
They show how hard it is to be a soldier and how well respected he views them. It shows that people idolise footballers, when soldiers should be getting praise as well and Terry directs his comments that way.
Why are people having a go at Terry for them? Have they actually read what he said? Ive seen similar comments over the years from other footballers, sportsmen and famous people.
Nor are Sunderland!
Ya just Gotta Hate Tiny Tears
@Giles Oakley
“I think it’s a pity United haven’t put the poppy on shirts, not least because many United players fought in both World Wars, ”
I agree with you Giles. however, when I first started to read I thought you were referring to Ryan Giggs !
delusionals 3- burnley 3 haha
Wrong wars, Read Carefully, Giggsy’s been with United since at least Waterloo. You know, the battle won by Redcoats. Doubt if he was wearing Wellington boots though.
watching soccer saturday with the bloated cokehead merson saying how burnley are never gonna score a third
just as he says it
3-3
politics and football shouldn’t have to mix. when you start pulling at the historical thread of why this, that, and the other, should be honored you could probably where a pin or badge for a million different meaningful things.
why can’t it be a personal decision, instead of a forced insitutionalized one.
plus having to wear the same designed logo makes me wonder which company owns the rights and profits to it, and who are they paying off (daily mail?) to sell it to the public.
finally, mussolini and the italian fascists were the enemy in one of these wars which are being remembered and it makes no sense to me to use intimidating fascist tactics to honor it. btw, kiko is an italian. most likely had ancestors who died for italy in the war. is it fair to ask him or his family to where a badge which might dredge up some painful, maybe embarrassing memories which they personally were not involved with?
inspite of sandy turnbull and other united legends and war heroes, it’s just best to leave politics out of football, or just make wearing the poppy a personal choice for each individual.
i do like wearing the poppy to honor the memory of the veterans, personally, but would fight for the right for anyone not to have wear it.
enough fuckin politics already!
3-3! 5 draws on the trot! ha!
@Tufty
I’m not even sure why I am even writing this because I know you only make posts to disagree with everyone else in order to feed your superiority complex, but nobody is taking exception with Terry’s praise of soldiers, they are complaining about his bullshit claim that he would love to serve in the army and put his life on the line for his country. As Scott rightly points out, there is nothing stopping him doing it. He is young, healthy and financially secure so why not enlist? Oh, that’s right, because he is a fucking liar!
He could have made a simple statement about his admiration for the bravery and sacrifice of the armed forces and how he feels indebted to them for the sacrifices they make, but he didn’t. This is the kind of statement you hear from public figures all the time but Terry had to go one step further and try to reflect some of that glory back onto himself by claiming that he would love to do what they do. There’s nothing stopping him (other than the hugely pampered lifestyle he has become accustomed to) which makes his statement a hollow one – exactly the kind of sentiment you would expect from the self-serving classless turd Terry has repeatedly shown himself to be. This man doesn’t even have the dedication to stay at his boyhood club without the added incentive of regular massive payrises and we are expected to believe that he is prepared to put his very life on the line for the benefit of others? Bollocks!
I am no more prepared to believe Terry wants to die for his country than I am to believe that you actually support Man Utd!
Owen Hargreves–return of the king….
will be released after 10 days…
And yet another supersub killed their dreams and hopes. Die and crash…
In other news, Chelsea are still alive, so it is up to us to crush their dreams and hopes.
@Giles OAKLEY
I am no Simon Scharma but I do know for sure Giggsy wasnt wearing wellington boots back then.
Even I know he was wearing Reeboks.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/columnists/patrick_barclay/article6906805.ece
Fantastic read if you haven’t read it yet.
And our dear neighbours still haven’t managed a win in five games. Burnley must be delighted with the result, and should never be underestimated.
@ Redbeard – well put mate.
Terry wouldnt go to Afghanistan because our own soldiers would shoot at the fucker. I think they call it blue on blue fire.
Giles-Do you reckon Sir Matt named his son after Turnbull?
I always wear the poppy every year.
United, like other clubs don’t have to though. It’s guaranteed that we would make donations to every kind of charity so wearing the poppy wouldn’t change how the club feels about the causes.
Daily Mail, Guardian and The Mirror. They ain’t exactly our top 3 fans are they. The Mail is beyond racist too.
3-3 mates.
Tevez- no input.
The poppies are just another way that people can rid themselves of guilt or think they’re supporting a cause, without actually having to do a thing. Now, the Daily Mail has made it so that the poppies no longer retain that little shred of good intention that they were designed for, and now they just send the message “We’re wearing these because the Daily Mail bullied us into it and it would be a PR nightmare not to.” At this point, for United to fold and put a poppy on the kit would mean giving the media even more influence over football.
@ vishnu1729
Really hope this is true and there won’t be any more setbacks. We’ve been waiting far too long and need him back as soon as possible. He could be back for the Besiktas game at home on 25th november.
@readcarefully
don’t think terry needs to go all the way to afghanistan to find blokes who’d like to shoot him! not that behavior is acceptable of course.
“terry cries when he loses a bloody football match, what use would he be in Afghanistan?! Fuck sake, people talk rubbish.”
haha… wish you could say that in his face, lol… would be so hilarious!
Viva John Terry
Viva John Terry
He could have won the cup
but he fucked it up
viva John Terry
@rooninho
sometimes it IS acceptable and absolutely necessary to strengthen the gene pool and therby ensuring the survival of the species.
I think a jury made up of twelve good men and true would find you not guilty but that your actions not only rid the planet of a vainglorious popinjay but served mankind as a whole.
Make sure you dont just wound him though as we couldnt stand the endless blubbing.
Oh this is such rubbish, getting people to do what you want at the expense of personal freedom is exactly what we fought two world wars AGAINST, an irony lost on the Daily Mail. Its down to choice whether you want to wear one or not. The Channel 4 newsreader Jon Snow doesn’t wear one for the same reason and I have to say its refreshing. It doesn’t mean we disrespect them in any way. How typical of the Mail, who supported fascism in WWII, to have such mock-outrage.
@Redbeard
Well said!
All of it!
@read carefully
fair enough, mate! let’s organize the firing squad now! darwin was right!
might be a problem choosing the blokes out of the millions of volunteers. guess we could let everyone have a go!
Terrys comments were made in March 2009 as part of an Egland squad event thatmet up with soldiers and victims from Iraq/Afghanistan.
Terry was one of several players who attended the event along with Beckham and Rio to name but tow.
Terrys comments are saying that he is priveleged to be a footballer and that soliders look up to footballers and would want to be them. Terry is turningt he tables saying he would like to be a soldier, showing what it takes to be one and putting the respect on soldiers over footballers.
The poppy is not just a symbol of one war, its not just a British thing, its a symbol of many wars and continuing wars, an honour for todays soldiers as well as ones who have lost lives. Nobody makes profis from poppys, its a charitable organisation that does work for injured servicemen, ex service men and their families, that co-ordinate the selling of them.
Stickingpoppies onshirts seems to be a new fagled thing, I dont recall clubs doing it years back, its Utds choice if they choose to do it and as they say, they back the campaign in many ways.
If the Daily Mail wants to make a story, it should be calling for sporting events to be cancelled on Rememberance day and for people to be encouraged to attend cenotaphs and rememberance day events, that would be a bigger tribute.
Well played burnley and well done agent sparky your work’s nearly done.
@rooninho
I am sure we could get in touch with Great Ormond Street Hospital and get some of the kids to do it – It would be even better if it were for charity.
If we get Terry to put on a red nose before we tie him to the pole then it could be for comic relief. What could be funnier than shooting that fucking clown ?
Put me down for a pound.
Tufty-Mate look at the comment made by Terry:”I would love to serve, of course. Put your life on the line for the country – I would love to.”. He is saying he would love to serve in the army.Thing is,he’s not,and there’s nothing stopping him.that’s what we’re getting annoyed about.
Had he said,”I would love to serve,but I’m not as brave as them”,then his comments would have been acceptable.
While i always wear a poppy thats my choice, nobody should be forced into wearing one. I agree about the daily mail but lets not forget the left are equally as bad if not more so as the right, in forcing their views down people’s throats. Oh and old Banana Feet is a prick.
i am happy to hear that the poppies proceeds go to veterans and those in need. i guess it’s origins are of a global remembrance of veterans and the dead of all wars, but it appears to be a practice of mainly a few allied areas- u.k., canada, france- thus it seems pro-british in a way.
anyway, said it before, best to not mix politics and football. united do plenty of charitable work but haven
Terry is saying “he would love to do it”. Not that he could do it, or he wants to do it. Terry is a role model to some and a lot of people want to become footballers, yet arent good enough. Some people might view the comments by Terry as admiration for the servicemen and their job and decide that they themselves could do it and they might join up to the armed forces.
The day with the servicemen was about the servicemen, not about the footballers.
Rather than coming away with the message being that the soldiers would strive to be footballers, the message was that the footballers admire the servicemen and their role.
The comments by Terry and other England footballers were made over 7 months ago, yet nobody has attacked them for them and they have been applauded for their work and their comments. His comments give applause to those doing the job, saying its a special job.
Terry himself, along with his wife has set up a charity for injured servicemen.
Personally, I’d love to be a footballer, but its not posible, that doesnt stop me from saying Id love to be a footballer.
Gooners are 3-0 up, HT. I wish we can thump weak teams from the start and score 2/3 goals in the first half, like we used to before. It’s now taking us a long time to finish weak opposition off.
Tufty – You’d love to be a footballer but you’re not good enough to be one. That is the reason you can’t be a footballer, even though you want to be one. Terry said he would love to be a soldier… what’s the reason why he can’t be one?
I’m not sure why you were trying to do with your footballer analogy but you explained the point everyone else on here has been trying to make to you.
Much ado about nothing ……………………………..again. I personally DO wear a poppy and have done for as long as I can remember but it is everyones own choice.
Off topic – “They’ve got salt and pepper on their hot dog stands…..oh Citeh are a massive club” . 5 straight draws, fans booing them off, Hughes gone by Xmas.
Fze123 – I know what you mean mate but fuck the gooners. When the business end comes round they still won’t win fuck all. Don’t forget either that teams always play differently against United, every game. It is their cup final.
Dear John Terry , I studied English for 6 years then made my mind up that I wanted to own a toy shop, so I stopped my skill at been an English teacher and opened a toy shop. You can follow your dreams and fuck off and fight a war and stop bullshitting to the media to make yourself be a big man. Fuck John Terry
Fully support 1 million percent the clubs stance on this… what difference does it make whether there is a poppy on the shirt or not, it does not make one more or less supportive of the people who have died in wars.
But what does one expect from a petty paper like the Mail?
I too wear the Poppy and on Remembrance Sunday I have Poppy seed Bagels for breakfast followed by a nice warming bowl of opium.
I then watch Popeye and call my niece, Poppy and ask her if she wants to come to watch the match but she will probably want to stay home and pop E. At half time I will listen to some music, probably The Killers or something equally pop – y.
Patriotic enough for you ?
RCWIS – You my friend are a nutter! Good post again.
Re : The bitters
Funniest thing I have seen in a while. Just gone on the MEN site and they are calling for Hughes’ head. Better than that though is a large number of them are proper slagging Tevez. Saying such things as “no wonder Fergie wouldn’t pay 25 million for him” and ” has Tevez got a spoon on the end of his boot”. Finally “Tevez has to be the biggest waste of money since Jo”. Priceless. They are such patient fans! Where are all the fuckers anyway, you know the ones who were saying United are finished and there is a new team in town? Those that signed every post off with fucking “tick tock”? Just wonderin’.
gotta hate – Alright pal? Don’t take this the wrong way but I find it rather amusing that you have a toy shop! Just cannot imagine it. I picture you like one of those little elves making toys for Santa. Weird I know.
Gotta hate tiny tears: what toy shop do you own?
personally, i think we’re in the wrong. Like others on here, my grandad was in the army in ww2 and know a few lads who are fightin now. I don’t see why you wouldn’t have it on the strip. Not like its expensive and wouldn’t be givin people an excuse to bitch about us. Bet the players would have preferred to have em too
Gotta Hate is Richer than the Glazers – He owns Toys r Us
No offence mate, but I find it funnier that you used to teach English. You write with an Irish accent for Fucks sake.
sorry but I have to say its quite ironic that poppy’s are being worn by the vast public when there is a war going on in Afghanistan which is the worlds biggest producer of the poppy plant… the British men and women being killed for no good reason is wrong…… United are right in not putting the poppy on, unfortunely the meaning of the poppy has being lessoned by the likes of Bush, Blair, Browne and Obama!!
And I’ve dyslexia, but if I wanted to be a fucking soldier I’d have tried out for th fuckin army
You cannot join the Army if you have dyslexia in case you run up to the enemy and LLIK him.
I’d be pissed off about makin a joke of dyslexia if I had of read it properly , I think united should have it on there jersey but I really understand why they haven’t.
should be ” their” jersey.
Detention for you Mr Gotta Hate Tiny tears.
If I had “have” read it properly…
You sure you were an English Teacher mate ?
I hope you havent been putting batteries in a Rocking Horse.
6 years English literature and psychology in Galway mate.
@ghtt – I always knew we had a better quality of Fan at MUFC.
If you were a Liverpool Fan you would have said 6 years Breaking and Entering at Risley Remand Centre.
Scott you are correct in pointing out that scousers love to jump on the mourning bandwagon but they are so inbred and insular that their show of respect and grief only manifests itself when scousers are involved, Hillsborough, Ken Bigley etc. but don’t really have much interest in other people’s grief outside their own Merseyside bubble, Munich, Heysel etc.
I have no doubt that as individuals they deal with grief in the same way that we all do but they have to save their complete and utter outpourings for anything that involves, predominantly their own people and World Wars in general don’t really do it for scousers.
Think I will leave the country for a couple of weeks when Cilla Black or Jimmy Tarbuck die as that would get too much for me.
As for John Terry, his playing career will be over in a couple of years and given his fitness and good health, he could join the TA’s and serve his country for free. Problem solved John.
On the poppy subject, soldiers died for this country to preserve out right to free speech and the choice to not wear a poppy if they so wish. I don’t wear one but always put a couple of quid in the box.
Boris johnson was right
GHTT
Boris Johnson was 100% right but was forced to apologise. If I was him I would have told them to fuck off and stood by my words.
My wallet has Boris for p.m. On it and I really believe it, what he said was bang on and it’s not due to and Manchester united Liverpool fc. Thing it’s because he was just plain right
@ King Eric – I wasn’t complimenting the gooners mate, agree that when the second half of the season is underway and it’s squeaky bum time when all games must be won they bottle it. I was just saying I wish we could have been 3-0 up at halftime against blackburn last week. We usually dominate for 60 minutes until we score against them now even though they’re play the game of their life. We need more of the 5-0 wins against wigan and the likes.
@ GHTT you’re daughter must be delighted to have a father who owns a toy shop
it’s amazing that the day before the biggest prem fixture so far this year (at least according to the press and tv news) and we’re obsessing over wearing poppies and terry’s strong resemblence to a (dishonest) female dog!
interesting and funny reading though!
anyone got opinions on how we’re going to neutralize drogba and anelka, considering the current form of our central defenders?
what’s our best midfield pairing to deal with ancelotti’s diamond formation?
chelsea tomorrow lads, i’m starting to get a bit nervous!
Don’t buy toys off me mate , they are cheap and shit. Emily likes the bigger toy shop better
@ghtt – Ever Heard of Gerald Ratner ?
We also do cut-glass sherry decanters complete with six glasses on a silver-plated tray that your butler can serve you drinks on, all for £4.95. People say, “How can you sell this for such a low price?”, I say, “because it’s total crap”.
So I’m sitting in my sitting room with a few beers talkin to the misses and I was saying how um freekin out with excitment as united are playing Chelsea tomorrow and I’m in the airport in 4 hours to go to Disneyland thanks to money won on the spurs win, I told my misses how I’m over excites and think I’m going to freek out then on mutv highlights of the 99 champions league final. HELP ME
@stretfordendole
“Should any club be forcing players to wear a poppy, should Utd be forcing Eire players like O’Shea and Gibson to wear a poppy or Chelsea be forcing Ballack to wear one?”
You are right there boss. Manchester United has gone way beyond an english
club. Obviously we have a lot of fans in Germany and certainly Japan, so what is thought to be patriotic in britain is offensive to our fans elsewhere who have lost people too
can people believe the hilrious transfer rumor rooney to barcelona. the guy who wrote this article Chris Bascombe what an idiot he is, another thing the media are trying so much to undermine united, first the ronaldo garbage on the summer, then their disgraceful campaign towards fergison with teh carlos tevez bullshit and going on and on about ferguson and the ref with articl after articl saying disgracful remarks towards fergie and now this story about rooney, who next I wonder.
http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/587480/BARCELONA-PLAN-pound85M-BID-FOR-WAYNE-ROONEY.html
Manchester United have created more “Poppy Awareness” than any other team in the prem this year!!!! Is it because we are not going to wear one one the pitch?…….or is it because that u will see all the coaching staff, Sir Alex and all the players arriving wearing poppys/ raising probably most money for the armed forces than 99% of the clubs in England, thru the work that Manchester United have done already and will continue in the future!
Rooney to barca???
omg..i saw that on goal.com
i’m not even reading em anymore :s
Tufty’s got it spot on. I have been in the military and if United do not want to go along with the Mail’s campaign its up to them. Just because the Mail brings it up doesn’t mean that everyone has to do it. I feel its the usual thing just cause its United. Any changes to the shirts are fine as long as its not United that requested it.
United contributes to various causes all the time. Just because they do not want to go along with the Mail on this, I honestly couldn’t care less. There must be a reason why we are not going along with this. You can’t expect United to go along with any bloody cause that comes along. Sure, this is an important cause. But I feel that its all grandstanding on the Mail’s part and everyone is jumping on the bandwagon, I guess just because of the press coverage.
Tiny Tears is a cunt & a press whore. Anytime there is something like this, you can bet he will have something to say about loving England and stuff like that. Can’t believe he said that he would love to serve his country, put his life on the line and do what the soldiers do. Shut the fuck up and do it if you love it so much, do what Pat Tillman did. He was an NFL player that turned down a $4 mil contract over 3yrs to join the US Army Rangers after Sept 11. He died while serving in Afghanistan. Also during his career, he turned down a better contract from another team out of loyalty to the team that drafted him.
After taking so long to decide on staying at Chelsea after being courted by Shitty. You can tell that he loves $$ more than Chelsea or England. So for him to give up his fat pay check for serving his country in the military, that wouldn’t happen until a day I become as rich as Ronaldo.
Is it the scrambled pixels of the photo or does Gallas have lazy eyes?
R8devil – Tiny Tears would probably give up his two balls for $$………
Actually when i knew about this news, i was thinking why united couldn’t want to do it. Sir Alex and Sir Bobby could surely wants and when seeing Sir Alex press conference, he wears it. It’s quite bizarre why they couldn’t do it on match day. However, if not wearing it means we disrespect? What the hell. We do many stuff off the scenes and don’t want to show it out. It’s weird really, imagine those who donates a lot of money to charity in private and when the media wants him to wear something to respect, he don’t want and he is disrespecting?
there is a fine line between patriotism and mindless chauvinism
I guess the DM is so obsessed with their agenda that they fail to see what they are doing is actually against the initial stance of the war which the troops fought in….. I’m not surprised really as journalism these days is a joke……
Anyways, any chance for a new thread Scott?? a match preview perhaps??????? I’m so sick of seeing the word POPPY in almost every UTD site i visit……
Anyone wanna take a wild guess on tonight’s line up????? If Anderson and Vidic and VDS start tonight, i will be a happy chap…… my line up would be….
VDS
WB NV JE PE
AV DF Ando RG
WR DB
Subs: Foster (Kuzz needs to be taught a lesson), O Shea, Scholes (In for DF if injured), Owen, Obertan, Carrick, Kiko
DB to score one from a WR assist. Kiko and Obertan on for DB and RG after 70….. Obertan to dribble past the uni-brow and whips in a cross which lands perfectly on the right foot of Macheda and converts to a goal in the 80th minute. Drogba trips on a strand of grass at the edge of the box and falls over as if hit by a typhoon. Terry puts down his poppy products and protests fiercely to the ref to win a penalty and Chelsea is rewarded a consolation goal. United hang on to win 2-1.
I love the lad nani, but I think the people on my bench are more reliable atm……..
News of the world front page this morn… “terry’s dad deals coke’
Viva john terry
Viva john terry
Englands golden bloke
but his dad sells coke
viva john terry
I agree with Scott on this. Terry could have said it in another way.
But of course he isn’t the only one and this shit just happens in today’s and not only today’s world. Empty words.
“Deep inside, in the world of empty words…
No escaping from those haunting
empty words…”
@Laos Red. DB playing tonight?
A bit off-topic but it’s worth it:
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/premiership/manu/news/story_get.dor?STORY_NAME=soccer/09/11/08/SOCCER_Ferguson.html&TEAMHD=manu
The man is GOD!
Where are the poppies to comemmorate the thousands unlawfully killed by British forces around the world throughout history? Where’s the Daily Mail campaign for that one? Theres nothing wrong with comemmorating soldiers who died but it shouldn’t be shoved in peoples faces who might have different views!
Where are the poppies to comemmorate the thousands unlawfully killed by British forces around the world throughout history? Where’s the Daily Mail campaign for that one? Theres nothing wrong with comemmorating soldiers who died but it shouldn’t be shoved in peoples faces who might have different views!
Jesus died to save us all too – why aren’t people wearing a poppy for Him?
I knew United would be torn apart for not having one embroidered on the shirt.
Who gives a fuck – it’s us against the world.
The Mail struggle to show respect to the dead full stop(stephen gately). It’s shit journos with shit respect for any norms or otherwise. Frankly they’d rather have Thatcher back with hitler and Mousolini in the cabinet. So fuck them and pay our respests through doing and not a token gesture of 11 shirts with poppy’s.
irwinisalegend
of course with a user name like urs its obvious what your talking about regardin british forces “unlawfully” killing thousands..ur a FUCKING PRICK..why dont you start a campagin for what u say, and design a wanker badge to put on your clothes because thats what you shouold be wearing
Barab
your comment is laughable..im ashamed you “support” united
Ulster Red
You never fail to surprise me with your outbursts! Free speech not allowed in the north is it? Why do you have unlawfully in inverted commas by the way?
your just wrong … all clubs should have worn the poppy… not about what others have said and done its about your club not doing whats right … simple.. stop being like fergie and blaming every one and everything when its you that are wrong ( on this occasion)