Tonight, United vs Barcelona at the Ullevi finished 0-0, before the reds lost on penalties. Nani hit the crossbar and Ashley Young’s poor penalty was saved. Xavi and Gerard Pique scored for Barcelona.
United: De Gea; Valencia, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra; Nani, Anderson, Scholes, Young; Rooney, Welbeck. Subs: Lindegaard, Berbatov, Hernandez, Carrick, Powell, Kagawa, Macheda, Wootton, Brady, M Keane, Lingard
Barcelona: Valdes; Alves, Puyol, Mascherano, Adriano; Roberto, Busquets, Iniesta; Sanchez, Messi, Tello. Subs: Pinto, Pique, Fabregas, Xavi, Villa, Bartra, Rodriguez, Alba, Montoya, Afellay, Fontas, Sanchez, Rafinha
Andrés Iniesta and Paul Scholes were awarded with individual trophies for their performance on the night but Barcelona were winners of the Super Match trophy. Henrik Larsson, who has played for United and Barcelona, was there to hand out the trophies to both teams.
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Another goalless match for United.
practice the damn penalties lads!
very very poor penalty from rooney, nani and ashley…. need to buck up lads…
Nani struck his well
Young and rooney are to blame
Haha
Funeral cup
Not at a bad result but I was looking for more from the guys….
I think I like Valencia on the right with Nani they were great together unlike Evra and YOung on the other side who were average.
I think the team will do well in the EPL but I’m not sure about the champions league I think we need an additional spark. either a fighter who can motivate the team or a defense splitting artist of a midfielder.
its only struck well when its a goal…hitting the underside is not good enough….. summer is over lads….no more honeymoon…..
i hope every player still remembers we lost the title by goal difference….. every goal counts regardless its a friendly or a league match…
Is Rooney ever going to shed that extra weight – He was blowing again after 30 minutes
High time he was made to fight for his place as his performances dont deserve an automatic start.
By comparison, look how super-lean and fit Vidic looks after a long lay off.
English are overrated
Anyone see anything to make them think United have closed the gap on Barcelona?
Any news about Robin Van Persie ?! i think it’s not wise to read the newspaper ..i’ll start to believe signings when they are with United shirts.
Funeral cup? Classic mate.
Missing three penalties in succession, that should be some kind of afirst.
Scholes our best player by a mile!
for me Anderson was our Man of the match..i really thought he had a very good game.
Anybody want to still champion Anders as the #1 GK for United?
its so frustrating…. we could have won thsi match and yet we allowed to lose it……a win would have been a real confidence booster…..
some players need to start playing properly for the millions they are paid from poor hardworking fans……
COME ON LADS!!!!……..
Fucking losers !
I blame Rooney,Young,Welbeck,Jones and Carrick for not being there…..
Oh wait this isn’t England and it aint the Euro’s
Well done Vidic,De Gea,Kagawa,Welbz,Scholes,Ando !
Barcelona still playing their usual stuffs….Man u still playing their usual stuffs
papii – Fegie and Feelan out!
Willie
Ignore it mate. I don’t even bother asking anymore
Ontopic, good show from a lot of the players. Namely DDG, Scholes, Kagawa and Valencia. The defence was solid as it been in a while now and Carrick looked like quite the centerback when he came on.
With all this debate regarding young and nani, both were piss poor. Nani had his little flashes of skill as usual but with no end product and Young, well he just looked completely out of it. Fluffed penalties, missed passes. No clue what’s going on with either of them.
Biggest disappointment of the night was still Rooney. Love him, but he needs to sort himself out.
was thinking might be Man U should put Anderson at left back
guess its time Fergie turn on the hairdryer on a full blast…..
I thought anderson was pretty good. We were ok. Nothing spectacular. Nani certainly wasnt piss poor. He had an average game
edcunited1878.
I do.
The Rooney needs to lose weight argument is dead. He’s United 4th top scorer and he’s been THIS fat since 18 years old.
Shut Up !
Anderson however, Joined us skinny and became a fat lump….if he can do a Rooney and become great, who the hell cares how chubby he is?
If anything its more cushioning for the falls the fat lump will take
DE GEA man of the match for me
Imo he was comfortable, and commanded his area pretty well
His passing was fantastic and made a couple of crucial saves.
I’m happy about the lads performance today
Carrick is getting back to his old self
Kagawa, oh my he’ll be a hit, mark my words.
The great ginger rejuvenated again
He’s too good
One more signing away from becoming untouchable again….
But rooney worries me, I tried to save this but he looks out of sort iMO. Coleens falt
@911
Nani struck his well? If the goalie had been on the other side of the pitch, it still would not have gone in. Good idea, sure. Well struck, not a chance. Any penalty not on target is garbage with the amount these lads make.
50 Shades -
Feegie + Feelan turned up in suits….I guess they think this is the Olympics and silver medals where it actually means something.
Bebe didn’t want to be associated with these losers, so he stayed at home to find Ando’s hidden ingredient for cookie dough.
Details of moura transfer : 43 mil euros , salary 250k per week on a 4 year deal agent fees 9 mil.. Total transfer cost 100 mil.. That kis is an unprocen 19 year old. Fucking mental
I heard the new tea lady is having a medical…oh wait psg have out bid us!!!
The barcelona curse is still on unfortunately
But it was a good test for the lads and hopefully if we do meet the barcelona again in the CL then we put an end to this “curse” and go on to claim another CL title
now lets hope whatever transfers are on are dealt quickly and we start a structured rebuilding for claiming back our title from the bitters
that made no sense at all ^above post from me ^
….. I blame Colleen too !
Sara are you a girl?
Well if no you make girlie views
Ha
Manuknited you’re freaking pisstaker
Lucas Moura is shit…didn’t I say I didn’t want the Theo look-alike…fuck RVP too.
Just give us Baines and that will do.
Were there any interviews after the game?
The atmosphere here is as if we just got relegated. A pre-season game people. I generally was satisfied with the way we played. We have to give Nani that contract extension. FAR AND AWAY our best winger. Kagawa is pretty strong on the ball and once again brought more fluidity to the team. Hopefully we see him and Rooney together for at least 75 mins VS Hannover on Saturday. ROLL ON THE NEW SEASON.
manuknighted you fucking idiot change your name and don’t say man u u daft fuck
@ Eric Keane
If those figures are accurate we can lament all we want about not being competitive in the transfer market, but I’m glad we’re not ruining football with this sort of ludicrous money. Moura is an untried 19 year old kid who has achieved zero in his career.
Dannysoya there’s no fucking atmosphere on here
We are just pointing out where we went wrong
And who’s fault was for the defeat
Imo
Bebe
Colleen
And the white shirt
Fucking never saw us win in that one, specially vs the catalunians
It has been cursed, there will be to reverse if we don’t ditch it
We did just everything right today, to win
Haha, ando smiling, smiling, smiling…..
He wants to attract barca with his smiles lol
I really don’t like Ashley young.. 18 mil .. Crazy
We have made a bid. Theyve been trying to negotiate with other clubs. We have to persevere.
Fergie on RVP
Fergie, We’ve made a bid for RvP, they’re trying to sell him to other clubs, but we’re hopeful it comes our way.
Cedars will be a cartwheels down the street at the thought of that!
I dont have a gut feeling about it. We cant get a break through with arsenal. Its hard to know their thoughts
911_DEVIL sorry if I piss you
& Peter cool dude what’s the issue of calling Man U. I am a united fan before u were born and thats what I call Man u from the very beginning…cool babe..
I hope the same thing happens to RvP as it did with Moura and those dirty Frencharab oil fucks sign him for 80 million and fuck off and die.
Fuck them to fuck.
united were good today, apart from messi barca didnt threaten,
scholes, ferdinand, nani and kagawa were class. welbeck, anderson and valencia were very good too.
We will sign only who we NEED. We don’t need Moura which is why we did not go all out to get him. If we needed him trust me Fergie would have met their asking price without blinking. Hopefully these rumours are smokescreens to the real thing. A CENTRAL MIDFIELDER.
Peter – is Moura still coming United
I am so depressed as a United fan right now……we are getting worse!
seriously…..we played quite allrite in the 2nd half…..nani and tony v were quite good in my view…..busquets is a cunt…..fucking drama queen…..rooney needs to buck up…ddg was excellent so was scholesy…..overall i thought the 2nd half performance was quite solid….taking into account barca’sx style of play….i thought we held ourselves nicely….this bodes well for us….
911
How many user names have you got?
I think we need 2 or 3 new signings especially a stricker because we don’t have at d moment….
When somebody is willing to pay 45 mil for a 19 year old you have to say the game has gone mad. The only deterrent is uefa.
Fergie on moura
Fergs on Vin Percy;
“We’ve made an offer, hopefully they read our email and don’t forward it to City or PSG”.
“Its hard to know if Arsenal have read the email, but we marked it as “Urgent Message” and attached a GIF of the Money, so we’ll find out soon”.
“They’ve replied, unfortunately it was a automated message and they are out on a business meeting in Stockport and will be back before the weekend, so we’ll find sometime in between now and Saturday morning.”
“I’ve just received a text off Robben and he said Robin thinks the weather in Manchester is boring, hopefully the forecast is positive for the day of the medical”.
A Draw with against a very strong Barca team ain’t bad. OK the pens were shit but theres no change there. Disappointed that United didn’t pull off the Moura deal but it was clear Moura, San Paulo and his agents was clearly money driven. Shame really as a player you should think that the league he is joining is very poor and to choose PSG over United really can only be driven. I just hope United can pull off the RVP deal now. Rooney for me was very poor last season and although Welz has potential I think to keep up with City and Chelsea we need some serious fire power and not only that it might give Rooney and welz the kick up the arse they need to crack on. Kagawa look great and its far to early to see what Powell can do yet.
Fergie we’ve put a bid in,easy enough to do question is how much.Was it as much as 10mill because if Arsenal are looking for upwards of say 20mill then it would be what I call a fake bid,just saying like.
Must be a lot of slim fuckers on here. Having a pop at Rooney’s weight! Wait till Pippo Inzibbie hears about this!
Only one miudo
Moses – yeah right rooney welbeck chicho are all shit lets see them all and buy over rated fuckers.
Fergie become quite a talkative guy.
Bollocks you’ve used 3 or 4 on this thread.
Danny @ 21:44: “We have to give Nani that contract extension. FAR AND AWAY our best winger.”
I agree with both parts of that statement but I’d like to have seen Nani on the left in the second half with Young on the right, in front of Valencia.
By playing NinjaEvra at left back and AV7 at right back, it seemed to me like SAF has been reading my posts. Or else his cousin in Toronto told him about our conversations.
Nice to see TheLads set up in a 3-5-2, with TheGingerNinja playing the “LotharMattheusRole”. If there’s any way to keep Scholes on the pitch while limiting his running, then I’m all for it. From my vantage-point, Paul was UTD’s best player while he controlled the rear-middle ground and orchestrated things, kicking Busquets for good measure ! He’s an absolute, total FuckingLegend.
Eric Keane @ 21:47: “Details of moura transfer : 43 mil euros , salary 250k per week on a 4 year deal agent fees 9 mil.. Total transfer cost 100 mil.. That kis is an unprocen 19 year old. Fucking mental”
Yeah, for that much do$h you could get Daniele De Rossi.
@ Eric Keane – Cheers mate. When did Fergie say that after the game today?
I never, ever wanted Moura. Not just saying that. I did, however, want us to get Hazard. I think he would have been a great Manchester United player.
CFC
MCFC
PSG
Are going to always try to sign players we are after. This is going to be annoying but the ones we do get will actually really, really have wanted to come so that’s some consolation.
Ironic really that oil money men at PSG tried to buy us first but Malc wanted more money. Not sure which shithouse cunt is most loathsome tbh.
Let’s at least get a fucking left back. Not even going to dream about a central midfielder as we never buy those.
I don’t buy this….
Van persie not coming
How the heck does the club do business this days, we now should wait for the boss to ask from fans advice for whom to buy next..
I know he aren’t interested in Van persie
Like wasn’t in lucas
Just to keep fans excited, I know…
I can’t be fooled like this, this ”we made bids for such and such” aren’t convincing me
Looks like l’arse trying to find anyone but us to sell RVP to.
Ungrateful bastards. We gave them the best defender ever for peanuts in 2008, its time for them to return the favour.
911 = sachu = voice of the voiceless – 2012 = peter venkman
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7974549
Sir Alex Ferguson remains hopeful of signing Robin van Persie but Manchester United are still struggling to make progress with Arsenal.
The Old Trafford boss in July confirmed he had made a bid for the Gunners striker, who does not want sign a new contract at Emirates Stadium.
United’s rivals, Premier League champions Manchester City, and Juventus also want Van Persie but meeting Arsenal’s asking price is proving difficult.
Ferguson is determined to get his man, having already missed out on Lucas Moura after the Brazilian’s move to Paris Saint Germain was confirmed earlier on Wednesday.
But after watching his side lose a high-profile friendly on penalties to Barcelona in Gothenburg, Ferguson said about Van Persie: “We’ve made a bid.
“They (Arsenal) have been trying to negotiate with other clubs. We have to persevere. Hopefully it comes our way.”
The Scot also said: “I don’t know what Arsenal’s thoughts are because they’re not giving anything away.”
More to follow…
Mancdub you deserve a big F
You fucking talking balls now
Which usernames have I been using fool?
NRD – yeah. Post match conference.
IT WAS A FRIENDLY – I frankly don’t even bother watching most of them nowadays because all you can really comment on based on them is fitness levels of the team, and on that front we look fine with who we have – the problem is the fact that we’re playing valencia and right back, and have noone but evra out left. That is is the obviously problem which shows itself from these friendlies.
Oh, and I for one think we could do with Van Persie. Welbeck is good, but still not sharp enough, intelligent enough, good enough…he is definitely not one to last the whole season and maintain form. Chicharito is a work in progress, and Berba is quite out of contention. Get Van Persie in, after all we have struggled to get anywhere near the goal in the friendlies, if they are anything to go by!
911 language mate. He hasnt abused you, why the aggressiveness
It seems Wenger would do just about anything before he sells one of his best players to us. Baffling that the ultimate transfer muppet Mankini isn’t in for RVP.
911/Peter/Manuknighted whatever your fucking called stop being a dick
Peter come up and strip this fool
Aren’t going to respond to your bollocks anymore
If that’s true about the Lucas deal being worth a total of 100 million (transfer + agent fees + wages) then it’s an example of what I’ve been saying for some time: there is no way to compete against these oil-rich playboys because if they decide they want someone, they can always pay more — and they enjoy the feeling that gives them. 100 million is stupid, stupid money, especially for an unproven 19 year old, but it is nothing to these people. Someone with $20 billion in his back pocket can spend 100 million a week, every week for four years. Even without the debt, we can’t compete against that. (That doesn’t mean I am OK with the debt, by the way. I am not. But what I am saying is: even without the debt, we still wouldn’t be able to compete against the owners of Shitty, PSG or Chelski.)
911/Peter/manuknighted whatever your called stop being a dick.
So good to see Vidic back. Hope all come through without major knocks!
Sour to loose on pens but team performed OK for preseason.
@eric keane I’m used to that
Not on a bad way
And screw the Moura deal – can’t, and shouldn’t be competing with that kind of money…and for what? an unproven, albeit hugely talented product of the Brazilian league? That’s insane – but besides, if we were that desperate to get him, why the hell did we not push the deal through with some speed? You sit on your asses letting the media inflate his value with every day, what the hell did you expect?
Let Moura go….Neymar is the new world star !!! Fergie should get him at all cost !!!
Your so pathetic it’s funny
Fuck me side ways
We aren’t attached to this 2 fools who calls our great club as ManU
911 is a dickhead…. …get lost
Another failed bid, another goalless draw, 2 pens missed. Bid for RVP which will mount to nothing.
No one was injured. That’s the main thing. The goals will come.
As for RVP, how dare Arsenal attempt to get the best possible bid for the EPL’s top scorer? What the fuck’s wrong with them?
Like Notorious said, this is their thanks for Silvestre?
Solid performance by the lads tonight. I though we were a bit nervous in the beginning but we settled into the game nicely as it wore on. Have to say our defence was pretty solid to be fair. Love seeing Nemanja and Rio together at the hear of the defence! Tony V is an absolute BEAST! He played at not his best of positions and was caught out a few times but my word, the lad is a machine! Great asset and player to have on your! So strong! Thought Nani was disappointing in the 1st half but did really well in the 2nd. Ash Young disappointing tonight imo. He seemed a bit fazed by the prospect of sharing a pitch with the likes of Messi, iniesta and co. Gutted for him that he missed ANOTHER fucking penalty! Sort it out fella! Have no doubt he’ll have a quality season though. Evra was decent, Welbz as well, Wazza should have buried that rebound but it wasn’t to be, Scholes OK, Ando alright, DDG solid-couple quality saves, decent distribution, was great to see Kagawa in the mix as well! Fucking love watching that little jap play the game. Makes it look so easy at times. Plain and simple. Like it!
All in all, still a long way to go for our lads intil we hit the ground running! Can’t wait till Everton away in acouple weeks!
As for RVP, it looks as if he’s going to be another one to get away! It just doesn’t seem like things are going our way in the transfer window and to be honest its quite embarrassing the way we have made bids for so many world class players and none seem to be coming off! We’ve bid for Hazard, Moura, Modric, Nasri, Silva, Villa, Benzema, Sneijder etc…what the fuck is going on though? Not 1 of those players to arrive at the club???? Its madness!!! Were Man United !!! We should be able to be getting the best and only the BEST! But no!! Its just not happening and its pissing me of now! In a big way to be honest! Why even make a bid then Fergie if you know its prob not enough to sign a player?? Its just getting ridiculous now! Were becoming a fucking laughing stock! Sort it out! RVP can do 1 as well! Never liked him and never will! After Fergies presser tonight there’s no way he’s coming to MUFC! It also makes you wonder why Fergie has been so straightforward about it as well!? He’s NEVER like this!!! NEVER!!! WTF??
@Alpha
Hi mate. To be fair to Phelan (and Lord knows how much I love the guy!), he never said we’ve closed the gap. The gist of his comments was that there is a gap between us and Barca but it’s not that big. It was a fairly diplomatic answer I thought.
Sara you hasn’t answered my question
Are you a girl or not?
@ Costas – Glad someone got the reference!
Just seen the FIFA rankings England 3rd? Greece better than Brazil and France. You have to be chuffed about that!!!
Why would I use more than 1 moniker
Are your insane
What leads you to a conclusion
That’s crazy
I’m being targeted again
Wonder how much longer we’re gonna have to rely on Scholesy to produce performances like he did today. Granted – he’s a one off player, but we need to start making provisions to eventually TRY and replace him!
FERGIE teasing fans again, i’m expecting RvP to be unveiled by juventus soon.
YOU SURE?
I think it’s clear who’s insane here.
Daft to loose on pens but I am just pleased to get another game without an injury. Vidic back is such a positive there are no words to do it justice. I suppose “immense” would spring to mind.
Moura deal seems DOA. Strange to be talking about RVP. Just not my ideal signing as I have nothing really against le Arsenal ATM. I guess we all live and learn . . . if it does happen anyway.
Pretty piss poor if we can’t close a deal like Moura when it was as close as it sounded. Hope he isn’t all that.
As for me, just settling in for a year in Lausanne. Weather has been a spectacular. Hope to get over to OT a couple of times as well but will defo pop in on some of the away games in CL. Well that is the plan. Fingers crossed for a great year.
@Notorious
Ha, for real! I just saw it. What are they thinking? Greece are above Brazil for some ungodly reason, but just behind Russia even though we knocked them out of the Euros.
But even those stats pale in comparison to England’s 3rd place..
Moura signed for PSG…
I’m not really fussed whether we get RVP or not, the only reason I want him is the same reason I want him is to stick it to l’arse fans. That would bring me so much joy.
mara – Bit late to the party?
Fuck off 911 go fuck your self with a hack saw blade, cut through your taint to your cunt!!!!!!
ALL IN A TIE OR LOSS WHO POLLUTE THIS SITE WITH STUPIDITY AND SPITE FUCK THE FUCK OFFF!
Fat Rooney get a grip you fucks who have never had 1 ORIGINAL THOUGHT!!!!! FUCK OFF, THE MAN HAS MORE IN HIS TANK IN THE 88TH MINUTE!!! THEN MOST IN THE 5TH!!!!!! HE WANTS TO RUN BOX TO BOX ALL GAME LONG, HE IS THE WORLDS 3RD BEST STRIKER!!! 4TH MUFC ALL TIME GOAL SCORER STILL 26 BECAME A MAN . how much weight did you sloppy ass cunts gain from 18 to 26!!!!!!! fuck off abu MUFC fans, U-BEEEEEE. 1000 post threads on ties and losses. A win 350 is all. FUCK OFF DRIVE BY SNIDE CUNTS TOSSING BUMPER STICKER COMMENTS, ARE TOSSERS!!!!!!!
That’s a serious accusation mancdub
Where have this peter and manknited pissed off to
I want them to clear it up by themselves
About sachu and 2012 I don’t care about it cause I never saw one post on here.
The username I ever used here was CHIKO MONDLANE but got banned due to scott suspecting that I might be sichu
But after I created 911_devil confessed.
Not this bollocks
911 FUCK OFF.
hello boyz!!!!!!!
Eric keane says:
Details of moura transfer : 43 mil euros , salary 250k per week on a 4 year deal agent fees 9 mil.. Total transfer cost 100 mil.. That kis is an unprocen 19 year old. Fucking mental
good riddance!
911 – Glad you cleared that up. Happy posting!
911 FUCK OFF GO AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck you zibbie
Don’t ever get drunk and post on here, you twat
Arsenal have been aware of the bid, but reports coming from the training camp ist that Robin wants to give it a go one more time after being convinced by Wenger’s intent.
The fact that Sir Alex actually talked about the bid shows just how unlikely Robin is to signing with the reds of Manchester. Wenger will see this as a classless attempt to destabilize a scary looking Arsenal team, and will surely rather keep an unhappy van Persie than sell to Utd.
Cheers 50 shades
Hey Wolfie loved the Big E.
Well done Zibbie
Damn missed the game. and i doubt those moura figures. 250k a week? Not only sounds unreal its daft and im surprised some have just swtallowed it. Top earners at wastelands get as much,how the fucks a guy like him coming from Brazil going to earn that.
Ronnie is on something like that ill bet and the other guy at Barcelona is too
Those numbers don’t add up.
Either way them French Fuckers must be feeling like big dick French Fuckers right about now
You bug cedars like a lost dog, I am not drunk dick head. If not SHOW SHOE then just a petty prick all on your own. U might mean well, I see a lost dog at the back door,
Zibbie – Go get them fuckers attacking Rooney’s weight!
Rodaldinho, rivaldo, ballack, essien, robben, obi, torres, benzema, sanchez, sneijder, silver, modric, nasri, hazard, moura …that’s a whole team of players who have snubbed us. As embarrassing as it though, WE ARE UNITED!
NRD – I was starting to feel sympathy for arsenal but their fans’ arrogance is unbelievable. Claiming united’s squad is weaker than theirs man for man. We won’t get RVP but assuming we did, i wouldn’t Care.
Nights everyone!!!!
Zibbie I know your secret, just an *ss hole with out notion of what you talking about
Always off topic and how you have been sucking your b*lls you fool.
Jokes are welcome, but you bore to death
Sorry guys for that!
Watching the dvr of the game ROONEYYYYYYYYY MISSED APENeltyyy… fuck
GOOD THE DIE ALLREADY!!!!!!!!
Night 911
Night Peter
Night manuknighted
Is Sara one of yours as well?
@samuel – Their arrogance has always been there, fucking hate them with a passion. Hence why I lay into their fans when they come on here. Always been a smug bunch of gits. Back in the day when the rivalry was fierce the funniest thing I’ve ever heard from l’arse fans was Ljunberg was better than Scholes. Thats just delusion on a grand scale. I’m just disappointed Spurs didn’t do the job on them last season by finishing 3rd. Had that happened they wouldn’t be signing the likes of Podolski and Cazorla. They would probably be after Owen instead. You are right though, we won’t get RVP, but our spending is far from done and even though its not ideal. Would love to be in the hunt for player(s) transfer deadline day just so I can have a vested interest.
If 911 means well then learn, Cedars says quite fucking with him do it! Don’t then repeat every post he make, you fucking brown nosed me for 3 days then, I had to ask 4 fucking times for you to knock it off, yet hu? what? me/ No no better? why you always picking on me, BECAUSE YOU ARE A SCAB!!!!! LEARN OR MOVE THE FUCK ON!!!!!!!!
goes to show what influence absurd money has in the modern era, how the fuck do you choose chelsea,psg over united a club heaped in tradition, heritage and so forth and more importantly stablity, proof is in the offing when these clubs get refferd to has projects,
Yooo easy everyone, i am by no means associated with anyone here, i’m a separate human being and i do apologize for flipping the heck out on the manuknight guy and then at the rvp situation,
its just the frustration that came after we lost to barcelona …..2 min later i found out moura signed for psg.
i wasn’t so pissed that we didn’t sign him, but that some filthy rich bloke can just stroll in and offer insane amounts of money to get some player that he’s probably only seen play in a youtube compliation.
so yeah, apologies once again for venting my anger on here…still think manuknight is a stupid name…
That is sick ass cash, can not blame a 19 year old , fucking agent, dad, mom, sisters, brother, 2 uncles and his 10 yr old coach all get a share as well.
We’d like to think United’s history and tradition would always swing it our way, but in todays market, it just ain’t enough. Then you add the Glazers into that as well. It’s where we are, sadly. One day the Gimps will fuck off, and we’ll probably get the type of owners who can front big money for half decent players. Fergie won’t be here to oversee it all.
dunno why everyone is going wild on the 45m€ PSG paid for Lucas.
We paid 40m€ for Rooney when he was 18 when the market wasn’t “mad” how fergie says.
Seems it’s only mad if it doesn’t work out for us.
We splashed crazy money on Rio, Rooney and Berbatov.
can’t blame anyone for that.
only crazy are the rumoured 9m£ the agent is getting for the deal.
Rooney was 25 million, Ferdinand 30, and Berbatov was around 28.
All of which paid off really well except Berbatov…
But yes, i have a feeling had Fergie upped the offer by 5 million, Moura would have been a United player even before the olympics started
Willie as a MUFC fan who is 50 from the US , has noted that for some time, free agent players in this era, want, sun $, and fun. Manchester not much sun, UK taxes tough, 500,000 people from the NW not London……..
5 mill more pre Olympics??? Great question.
Molde did’nt qualify for CL after drawing 1-1 against basel in the 2nd leg..so gutted for Ole
zelh – Weren’t in debt either. The Rooney comparison doesn’t stand up for me. That was£20mill down payment and the rest installments. Which we met due to our success and Rooney’s. Rooney was already plucking balls out of the air and scoring a wonder goal against the then champions of England. A proven premiership star in the making. Moura might well go on and be a top player. Time will tell. Every cunt knew Wayne Rooney was gonna be big. Hence, we paid the money to get him. Ask Sao Paulo fans about Moura. They don’t think he’s worth the fee PSG are forking out. I wasn’t fussed about this kid anyway. And I won’t hate on him. He didn’t grow up supporting United!
When you taken into account an 8 year gap and a much less inflated market, Zelh is spot on about Rooney’s fee being not all that different compared to Moura’s. The biggest difference is probably in the player’s wages and the agent’s fee. But that’s a different story. So I don’t get why Moura is all of a sudden too expensive at 35 million pounds.
He’s a bargain when you consider that Carroll cost just as much!
The extras Kebab, the extras!
zelh to be fair i get your point if that was your club spending absurd money which enabled your club to bring in top personal, or potentially top players you certainly would’nt oppose it, i can see the attraction with barc, real,bayern, ac milan clubs who offer that glamour, history etc just irrates me seeing your psg, city’s, chelsea having all this handed to them so to speak there’s no affilation from these players minus the ££££££ signs
Evening reds!! In respect of the signings or lack of so far, something isn’t quite right. Firstly, fergie never ever played the public role speaking to press about transfers. He doesn’t Like doing business in that way especially when its done to us e.g. ronaldo/van/Beckham. I get the feeling he that this may be his last season and he wants the players needed to the job to end on a high. Which brings me to my next point! Why can’t we attract the players at the top of the game or at least could be. Think back to ronaldinho/ Essien/robben/villa/moura/osil and even Ramsay!!!! Although I’m glad we didn’t get him, the lad turned us down for arsenal after meeting us all. It begs the question, aside from money and weather in Manchester what are we doing wrong? Are we simply not paying agents ans clubs what they want? Or is there something wrong in the process of recruiting new players? United deserve through the history to have the worlds best knocking on our door wanting to play for us, nowadays it seems like that’s a long way from reality. What are your thoughts guys? Btw, first post been reading for ages ha hi to the usual lot cedars Keane zibby costas etc!!!
Willie I was for Lucas, maybe more for getting the next target?
@WRN – In fairness mate we’ve never really attracted the superstar players from Day 1. The history and tradition of this club appeals to very few foreign players, that only usually works with British talent. In no particular order
Markus Babbel turned us down and years later when he had lost his pace joined the vermin.
Ronaldinho – Need I say more!
Brazilian Ronaldo – Remember reading we could have signed him but wouldn’t pay his huge wages this was right before he joined Inter.
Ronald De Boer – Turned us down for Rangers, he got more money there as well. How are Rangers doing these days?
Roberto Baggio – This rumour was rife when I was at school. Heavily linked with him he went Milan instead.
Laurent Blanc – Fergie was after him for years but he just wouldn’t sign for whatever reason ended up going Barca first then ended up at Inter and we got him right at the end when his legs had gone but his skill hadn’t.
There are others those are just off the top of my head. This isn’t a new occurrence, signings like Veron, Nani and Anderson are the exception rather than the rule. Most our signings are from the PL or foreign players whose nationality isn’t that of a huge nation i.e Spain. Italy, Brazil.
So this “snub” for more money doesn’t surprise me.
It still doesn’t equate! United’s offer for Moura was fare. Then other fees for persons unknown. Makes it awfully expensive. Yeah sure, lets spunk money we don’t have!
To be fair Rooney had an amazing Euros so that fee was more than justified. Its also the reason why England fans get on his back at major tournaments even if he has played 2 World Cups with a dodgy foot that most players would be resting.
@Zibbie
Extra mayonnaise or extra ketchup?
Also to add to my list of players turning us down for money.
Salas chose Lazio over us who were the late 90s version of PSG.
According to this, Rooney would have cost us around 62 million today.
http://transferpriceindex.com/2011/06/the-english-premium-a-2011-transfer-price-index-review/
Moura doesn’t sound that expensive now does he?
Some of those players turned us down because they didn’t want to move to Manchester. Wouldn’t want them anyway, if that’s their attitude! I understand we haven’t always attracted big names. just saying our name alone isn’t enough for signing players. I’d only want players who want to play for United. Like Kagawa. Great attitude. Great player. We’re lucky he only wanted a move to us.
costas does that apply if them glazers tryed buying us now:-)
NRD – Everton fans still complain to this day, we got Rooney on the cheap! Scousers for ya!
@Busby babes
Lol, no. But if he was available today at 19 years old and under that price tag, I doubt we would be able to afford him. Sad but true.
Willie spot, on Kagawa, Powell, Jones, Smalling, Lil Pea…..
Costas – SWP would now cost £48mill? Whoever done those figures must’ve been on the piss! Or pissed.
@WRN – I totally agree that players that come here just to play for the badge, I’m just pointing out that being turned down because its Manchester because of the weather etc and therefore they want more money isn’t a new thing its being going on for years. Some think it’s just a recent thing.
All that happened from 1995-2002 is that we bridged the gap in what we could pay certain players.
Do you think Veron would have come here if he wasn’t on a huge salary? He made more than he did at Lazio from my understanding.
All thats changed now is that, back in the day everyone went Italy and now players want to play at PSG, cit-eh, chelski, Anzhi and Madrid because they can pay more than us and can afford to. It’s just the same as the mid to late 90s except the names of the teams have changed. We had a 4 year period in which we had the chance to sign “World known Superstars” like it was Football Manager and the only one we got was Veron which didn’t work.
I’m not bothered, if players want to play for Manchester United brilliant, if they don’t we’ll find someone else who does. Those 5 teams can’t sign all the best players between them. If it was the case of weather why aren’t top players moving to the Fiorentina’s Valencia, Atletico Madrids, and Romas of this world like they used to?
@Willie
2 million less than what Torres cost. Sounds just about right doesn’t it?
unfortunately m8 i beleive you’d be right
45 mill Eruos equals 30mill pounds that doesn’t sound right Rooney was a much bigger talent at 19 than Moura he’s done fuck all,250k a week anyone thinking we missed out must be having a laugh,he could turn out to be a total bust
NRD – Oh yeah. It’s been happening to United throughout Fergie’s tenure. Young players today though, they’re obsessed by money. Remember Keano saying it, when he was at Sunderland. And people said, Keane moaning again, but he’s right. That’s modern players motivation. The money, fancy car and fucking bling! Not for the love of game anymore. Hoping for FFP to bring some normality back into football is wishful thinking. Great idea by the powers that be, but it’s doomed to fail.
Thought United should have won it, defended solidly albeit for a few inevitable chances Barca created, and played very good football at times. Dissapointing penalty shootout. I knew Rooney wouldnt score, he looks out of form, lets hope he hits his scoring run in time for Everton. Wasnt sure about signing RvP but its about time Rooney had to fight for his place. Nani looked great but he was selfish at times and as per usual his final ball was poor. Great to see Captain Vidic just hope he can start to play full matches soon as he makes everything feel more secure.
@WRN – That is definitely true it has infiltrated through to the young players but that is part down to the new rules of football.
The whole 18 players have to be based/trained from the home nation has put all the power in the young players hands. (Or whatever the new squad rules are, you know what i mean)
I bet the people who devised these plans didn’t see that one coming. That last sentence isn’t meant sarcastically either. I genuinely think they missed that when they came up with the rules.
Not all young players are stupid, especially if they have a legal beagle in an agent in their ear. I
The thing is if you’re earning £75k at 20 years of age, the wages are going to go up as you get older not down.
It’s going to get worse before it gets better. Not sure how long that will be though.
Highlights here guys:-
http://thebusbyway.com/2012/08/09/video-barcelona-spot-on-as-united-lose-on-penalties/
At least Rooney knows when he can miss those damn penalties. And the rebound shot was even worse.
zelh says:
“dunno why everyone is going wild on the 45m€ PSG paid for Lucas.
We paid 40m€ for Rooney when he was 18 when the market wasn’t “mad” how fergie says.
Seems it’s only mad if it doesn’t work out for us”
Pretty daft comment comment mate.
Comparing Lucas to Rooney is ridiculous! Wayne at 18 was way more accomplished than Lucas is today.
By the time Rooney left Everton he:
- was proven in the league, 67 appearances with 15 goals under his belt
- was part of England’s starting eleven (senior team), impressing at the 2004 Euro Cup with 4 goals (only Milan Baroš scored more than him).
What has Lucas done? Yes, the kid has shown some sparks of brilliance but comparing him to Rooney or justifying the 45mil price tag is completely ridiculous. Sir Alex is right on this one, and suggesting he is having double standards just because we got outbid is insulting
Skanked it
Honestly lads, I couldn’t give a toss Rooney fluffed a penalty. Keeping everyone fit and ready for the toffees was my biggest concern. These games are for building match fitness. Night Reds!
i do not want us to sign van persie because he has gooner blood running through his veins!!
even is he signs for us deep down he will have regrets he could not of continued with arsenal he would rather win the league with them but knows it will be extremely difficult so he comes to us hoping to get an easy league trophy
AND INFLATED WAGES!!
Didn’t we beat Barca last season in a Red Kit?
If we get van Persie I will eat my own feces. Joyously. Don’t know why Ferguson has suddenly turned into Goal.
Foogies gone senile…he played on a ps3 for the first time and thought it was real.
HELP WITH FANTASY EPL, PLEASE.
I’m setting up a fantasy league for some friends and wanted RoM’ers advice on the best one. I’ve used the Facebook one two years ago and found it to be shit. I did Barclay’s official league last season and was satisfied but not thrilled. SkySports has one as well.
Can anyone help me decide between SkySports and Barclay’s? Or add a new into the mix?
Also, a league for all us RoM’ers would be a fun idea. I’d be happy to admin…
@WillieRedNut
Wasn’t even 20mill upfront. As my post which is currently awaiting moderation (I shouldnt have linked to the proof) pointed out Rooneys total fee including Agent Fees and FAPL fees was £25.65mill. £11.5mil was paid upfront the rest in installments. At that point there was £20.326mill outstanding on all transfers and the accounts state that 14.8mill was due to be paid in the next 12 months months and 5.4mill wasn’t due within the year. How much of Rooneys fee make up each of those is unknown as they don’t get broken down to show that but would imagine some of Rooneys makes up part of the 12+months figure
A further £4mill of conditional fees were included which we may or may not have triggered them all (and we may have even negotiated on these to pay less as clubs will often sell ‘addon’ fees back for a discount to get a quick cash injection)
The official barclays one is the best mate,stick with it.You prob weren’t thrilled with it because you finished mid table last season, ; )
Dude do barclays…..
pick;
Szszney, Bardsley, Koscielny, Vertonghen, Cole,Song, Yaya, Bale, Kagawa, Rooney, Kun Aguero
….
btw your fucking loser
Im gonna do mine on Aug 16 like a real Pro
@i love manchester united
Completely agree with you…
real just raped milan…
NRD snub for money? You’re forgetting the best one, Mikel. You’ll never get this again, a player signs for another club and nets us 14mil. I can’t see it happening ever again, though we can wish for it.
@mybloodismetal:
What’s the score pal?
5-1
Went to sleep after final whistle yesterday. Never thought they would decide to give it a go with penalties.
If 35mln for Moura is ok, then i can’t see why 12-15mln for Baines who is a proved player is that much.
And some say the player is overrated.
But anyway. It was only a friendly but already we saw the constant exposure at our left defensive wing.
But anyway, the real games count so we must just keep our fingers crossed. 
I even heard Rio screaming something.
@Clunt
You sure are a clever one. You do realize that you can transfer players as much as you’d like before the season starts, right ol pro? I ask about a fantasy league and you take shots, what a giant tool you are. “Your fucking loser” is not even close to a sentence anyway, don’t know why I’m bothering with a response.
@emyoueffsee
Ha, no I won my private league. I just didn’t like the lack of custom settings/features in private leagues… like setting your own point systems, transfer limitations, etc. I play with my friends, unlike Clunt who hasn’t any, and want to be able to set up our league however I’d damn well please, like ESPN or Yahoo! for fantasy American Tackleball.
Morning all
I feel absolutely gutted for Molde and Ole, they lost 2-1 on agg against Basel……Missed a penalty last night that would have taken them through to the group stages….
FUCK
Corea 35 mil is too much for moura imo. As far as rooney fee was concerned he was playing in epl at 18. Moura plays in the brazilian league and cant make an olympic first team. He is a prospect im glad we missed out on.maybe we willget rvp now
Not hoping for a CM we aint buying one for another decade
Cedars – missed in on 90 mins too. Ole must be gutted
When some of you folk talk about things like fantasy league or FIFA games etc, I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about! ha ha…….Never tried them and never will.
mansuy united
Relax mate, Papii was only taking the piss as he always does and we love him for that…..
@Eric keane – i can draw a conclusion mate on this one annoying thing – transfers and us getting the best player on a _fair_ price.
There are not enough great players available or TOO many clubs that every year snatch the players from under our noses.
Who knows, maybe Fergie’s insistence playing “value-for-money” game and so-called FFP (financial fair play) would give us dividends at the end of the day. WE shall wait and see.
And hope hope hope. Scholes gets 25-30 top games for us. Cleverly develops and stays injury free. Andreson fullfils his long-awaited potential. Wellbeck signs and gets to 20 goals a season. Chicharito plays his 3rd season with us leaving behind his last season’s dissapointment. Nani plays his best season with us. And our club implementing highly sucessful and thoughtful rotation policy with young players like Petrucci, Tunnincliffe, Powell etc getting some important minutes on the pitch.
I am not sure if everyone out here noticed how Fergie brought on Pogba everytime we were 2-0 ahead at OT just to have an idea how badly Fergie wanted to keep the player. Of course standing ferm on his principles about the financial and moral side.
Eric keane
I know mate, I am seriously feeling sick about it……..God only knows how Ole must be feeling. He is my second all time favourite United player after you know who and he will always be my first choice to take over once the great man calls it a day
CedarsDevil – first one ? Just to have an idea.
Why the fuck are Arsenal playing hard ball with us over RvP? Fuckers want 20 million for him, yet if its us then its an extra 5 million! Bastards
Corea
You lost me mate!
Corea
Oh now I got it, you mean 1st all time favourite? ha ha ha I ain’t telling coz I am sure you know
thank God we were nt held to ransom by sum raw kid.. we r man utd FFS not mugs like chelsea, PSG n city..
anyone remember denilson.? he was another wonderkid from sao paulo..
Cedars- he is one of my all time favorites too.. Felt bad for him!
Also i believe now we’ll be ready to pay25 mil for rvp. Moura’s gone.. Donesnt look like we are going to buy anyone else apart from rvp. So maybe just maybe fergie will pay the 5 mil more..
Just imagine kawaga lining up behind rooney and rvp. It will be a nightmare for most teams. Really hope we get him, not that we need him, who’d say no to a striker of his calibre at 20-25 mil? I certainly would not!
PSG have now spent around 150 mil in the past month. Something needs to be done. These city chelsea and PSG type clubs are ruining the game.. Platini is a massive bellend am sure nothing will come out of it. We can only hope.
Right on, Cedars. I spend plenty of time on here and have seen his antics. Just felt more like a pop and less like a piss, for no good reason. Saying “You’re a fucking loser” to someone you’ve never once addressed is childish at best.
Right, let me pull the panties out of my ass…
In other news piers morgan has decided to jump off a bridge if united sign rvp..
I met a fairy today who granted me one wish. “I want to live forever,” I said.
“Sorry,” said the fairy, “I’m not allowed to grant wishes like that.”
“Fine,” I said, “I want to die when Liverpool win the premier league.”
“You crafty cunt!” said the fairy.
Sign Witsel please! His transfer to Real has stalled.
A am pretty desperate you know
Morning reds around the world,
so i see still Scholes keeps getting man of the match awards?
I tell again, the only missing piece in our midfield is Fletcher…
Untill then we have to move on because at this moment of time we are not sure how long Fletch will be playing professional football..I dont see us investing on another midfielder this summer, have been telling this since the window..not gonna happen..
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Good to see some new skills by the Beast..looks like the number 7 shirt is driving him crazy
Cedars, Corea, Eric Keane
Morning pals,
that Moura thing has been ridicolous with many conditions regarding the agent fee and player owning subsequent sales percentage etc etc..
I m just glad we dint burn our ass, this aint the fault of Glazers anyway..
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We live in a funny word,
still the posters who insult the legend by calling him C*nt dont get banned, and others get banned for fuck all reasons..
Double standards!!
Not my blog anyway..
Corea if madrid do get witsel we’ll bid for modric. After all luka > lucas
Losing out on Moura is painful TBH, and that’s because I believe no one wants to lose out on something they want. However, I’ll love to view the thing as a dodged bullet. It’s one thing to be talented, and another to have one’s head right.
Sandeep – good morning mate.. I doubt sir alex would have bought him for that price even if we had unlimited cash. This nineteen yearold is going to make more in a week than about 1200000 indians do in a year together. His mind will be off football and i sincerely doubt his twmperament if he can the french
Eague over epl.
If I were Arsene, I’d rather continue feeding Man $ity instead of selling my best player to Man United. RvP would at least become a mercenary bench-warmer at $ity, but at United, he would become success and that would be classless act.
Anyway, it seems Sir Alex is not that INTERESTED in buying RvP.
mansuy united
Ha ha, make sure you wash them panties afterwards mate!
Eric keane
Loved that joke mate……epic oldie but goodie
Sandy Baby
Morning mate
Bale, Ballack, Benzema, Essien, Hazard, Modric, Moura, Nasri, Obi, Ozil, Ribery, Robben, Ronaldinho, Sanchez, Silva, Sneijder, Torres, Villa and the list goes on…
It’s not like they are English players whose fav club is Man Utd, it’s just weird to say that their attitude sucks or they are money grubbing whores who chose other big clubs over us.
In fact many of them have joined their new clubs and won major honours with their respective clubs.
We need to relook at ourselves and the market condition instead of putting the blame on the players who snubbed us.
If nothing can be done with the transfer market then something has to be done with our transfer policy to address the issue.
Platini is a cunt of the highest order, I have a history with him…………Snide cheeky useless cunt
Bloody typo—– World
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Eric Keane,
Lol at your mathematical figure of how much hez gonna make in a year
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Cedars,
not gone yet with your usual walk pal?
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Mutusamy
Understand your point mate,
but what we also need to look as fans is that, historically we bring in academy players, we are maintaining it,
we have spent reasonably in the last 2 seasons if i m not wrong,
the money is spent on young lads, we should also give them some time..
as i told, Fletch is the only missing link in our midfield right now,
I m not sure how many Fletch type players are available in the market right now..
the ones like de Rossi stick with their club and loyalty..
The most important thing, we have been lacking a commander in midfielder, we need a leader, we have become a lil softy there, In a way i m really glad Vida is back..
but we need one such leader in midfield..if he comes from the current crop i will be more than happy,
or we will have to wait for a player like keano to come out of the blocks..which is very rare..
Those on here old enough to have followed United in the 80′s will know that Platini was the most hated player among United supporters……..Dear God, we detested him with a passion…and still do
Oh, so you all want to know why? Right here is the story……..
The whole thing flared up in 1984……….We had just knocked out Barca in the quarter final of what was then the Cup Winners Cup, Robbo raped shit and completely nullified Maradona of all people in the process….. We then played Juve in the semi, who the cunt Platini played for at the time. Now they did beat us 2-1 on agg however over both legs Robbo made Platini seem like a school boy….
What happened afterwards was that every time the cunt Platini opened his gob he kept urging Robbo to leave United and join him at Juve, and that was on a daily basis…….Eventually Robbo told him to fuck off and shut his gob
May be to get the goals flowing Utd need to have a look at Lewandowski (hope its written like this) instead of chasing a mirage in RvP (unless Cedars does the “daddy”‘s task of convincing him
)
With Lewandowski we will have a young player and also a good understanding between him and Kagawa
as for platini he’s playing the blind in the PSG case and having a good laugh as well it seems, where’s his rules now???
my wisdom tooth hit a glass ceiling and decided to grow laterally…just got it extracted
Grooming academy players into first team starters are far and few, investing in potential players is of course the right way to go given the Glazers austerity.
But on the few occasions that SAF has identified the established player to buy, be it holding mid or winger, it seems to be be always doomed.
It didn’t matter back then because the team was already awesome but now i just try my best to move on from the disappointment.
Best I do not do shares any more and stick to transfer rumours……..So that Moura kid will eventually cost PSG over 100 Million………Great bit of business for a player only two weeks ago I had never heard of
Jeet
Must have been painful as fuck mate!
Mutusamy-Spot on
Morning everyone
Have to piss off but before I do……
911
You do realize that everyone on here has you figured out right? The way you intentionally misspell sachu as sichu is hilarious………..Oh and do say hi to Sara
Instead of going for Moura, i think we should have gone for Munain, He’s 19yrs too and proven . And i also think we should go for Llorente instead of RVP, I’m scared of his injury record and this might be another Hagreaves in the offing!
Cedars – hey hey hey dont forget Cheiko! He-a feel-a baaaad!
@CedarsDevil
Cheers for that insight into Platini (prick).
Robbo was my hero as kid (still is). Sadly I only got to see him play at OT in the twilight day of his glorious career.
Haha
Cedars
Its about time until you realize
What bad image you created of me in here
It all started with you
And aren’t getting out of this before you tell the fools that I’m not sara neither I’m sachu or 2012…..
This is crazy
You screwed my sanity cedars
I blame it all on you
But aren’t backing off just yet until I prove your fools that I’m not what your’all label me to be
And enough with slating the management
We can only get what we afford
If the money grabbing whore chose money above success it aren’t our clubs fault
Where’s Iced Earth?
Hibernating
So, seems like Arsenal are the stumbling block here. RVP apparently keen to come – terms almost agreed – but AFC holding out for more money.
If it’s £20m they want instead of United’s proposed £15m, I can’t see us being THAT tight-fisted that we let this one slip away.
I still find it unbelievable that nobody’s come in with a £5m offer for Berbatov. If they had, this safa might’ve been wrapped up some time ago.
Time to include Berba in the deal me thinks. He is clearly not in SAF’s plans so it might just be the sweetener Wenger needs.
All united need is a defensive midfielder to complete the squad
If the RVP deal does fall through, I hope it falls through ASAP instead of stringing it out til deadline day. The sooner we know it’s not happening, the sooner Fergie can look to invest the money elsewhere.
SAF’s not into players like that
I know he said he haven’t used ond in 25 years at united but its clear that’s the missing piece
@Cedars
Why did you all hate Platini?
Ok. Just saw your post!
Sigh* honest truth is, The team what we have now we all know won’t make it… Whether they remain fit or wateva else, the talent jus isn’t there… You can’t win the EPL or the CL without bumping into a top team and right now, our best 11 has Scholes in it, and tht midfield will definately be outrun by almost any team. We HAD to keep Pogba for whatever reason cause he was by FAR our best yung talent(forget TC etc) but o well…
I’m tired of people ALWAYS talkn about lack of funds etc etc, without lookn at facts! We spent 50m last season u forget!! Ozil cost 12m, Sahin cost 8m, we bort ‘superman’ Jones for 18! Marin cost 7m we bort ‘olympic-diver’ Young fo 18m(def a senseless buy)! Afellay cost 3m we got Bebe for 7.5! In all honesty e prob is WE have a negotiating prob! not as bad as Livpool, but bad all e same! Its easy to always blame e players calling them greedy etc, yes we r UNITED but we still have a duty of givin a decent sales pitch to foreign players! Yes 35m is a lot fo a 19yr old, but if thts wat e auction figures r then all we can do is try match or miss out!
All I’m saying is, if we continue adding people of the Baines calibre, we will find ourselvs NOWHERE NEAR any European title! Jus lukn at e Chelski project is terrifyn, yung talent thts world-class already!! Even Arsenal is lookn lyk they headin the right way. To the powers that be: PLIZ find us someone OUT THERE(not academy) for WHATEVER price to fix us, before we have anotha disapointing season reliant on our aging legends….its really not fair on them
Arsenal do not want there captain sulking about for an other year , they will not want him to come to United for free . He wants to come to United it’s a game of poker we are holding all the cards
diablored says:
Sigh* honest truth is, The team what we have now we all know won’t make it… Whether they remain fit or wateva else, the talent jus isn’t there… You can’t win the EPL or the CL without bumping into a top team and right now, our best 11 has Scholes in it, and tht midfield will definately be outrun by almost any team.
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Right… So let’s get this straight…
Last season we were ravaged by injuries
City weren’t
Last season we lost out to City on goal difference
This summer we’ve bought two players
City haven’t bought anyone
And you seem to be writing us off for the league…. Do explain…
Papii – You’re crazy!
Wanna Fly that by me again?
Maybe I misread Fergie’s comments last night. According to the Mirror, Arsenal are asking 20 mil for RVP. However, the fee is 25 in United’s case. Bitter twats. I’ve lost count of how many times they’ve opened their legs for City and now all of a sudden they are playing hardball with us.
First off, dont rationalize by saying ” we are better off without said player” SAF actually rated the player and was willing to pay alot. Goes for most of the players on these lists. The thing is, the Glazers say no. SAF isnt permitted to buy any player without the Glazers consent. The Glazers will not tell SAF who to buy, but they always have the finale say, when it comes to spending.
As for all the people on this board critizising other teams for spending and what players cost. United is the most valueable team in the world and our turnover is third of all clubs. Last year our wages where 46-49% of our turnover, best in the PL. We have the biggest stadium and a well run club. We yearly broker record breaking sponsorship deals, and every year we loose out on the players SAF deems worthy of wearing the United shirt. SAF has now tried 4 years in a row to replace Scholes, he has identified the player he wants, but ended up empty handed. He must be furious.
United have the money, more than enough. United should be signing some of these players SAF has targeted, scouted and scrutinized. United have the financial backbone and stability to sign a Modric, Schneider, hazard or Nasri, but we dont. The Glazers want the money for themselves. Now if we were av small club like Liverpool or Villa, I would agree that these fees are crazy and would ruin our club, but thats not the fact. I really feel sorry for SAF and the fans.
diablored – where do you think our aging legends are from? Yes, that’s right! The Academy!
I wasn’t unhappy with United’s performance at all except for the penalties of course. De Gea was sublime in goal. United kept Barca quiet all game, even when they had the heavyweights in goal, We were very unlucky not to have won the game in ordinary time. Keepers played a blinder, basically.
@Vilhelm28
We do have money but we dont have kind of money which own by citeh, chelsea, psg, etc. Are we clear enough?? I mean spent almost 100 milions euro for an unproven Brazilian kid how on earth u can logicaly explain that?
It seems hazards & mouras agent are just the same kind of people. They asked more money for agent fees & United told them to fuck off!!!
@Dela
Drawing with Barca in pre-season certainly beats losing to Oldham. (City)
Our squad is readily good
And we will win both UEFA CL and Premier league
Write us off at your own peril
Your will regret ever not believing in our squad
You GH!!
No matter how much money the club offer, those bastards at citeh, chelski & psg could’ve always double our bid. Fuck!! Frustating indeed…
Costas – Yeah. £25mill for United. Can’t see Fergie paying it.
@WRN / Costas
If the discrepancy is £5m and RVP is desperate enough for the move, he could well foot the difference himself…
Went to the Oslo game – Rooney and Anderson both looked like they had been eating donuts all summer!
Well, frankly I think that if we didn’t have the debt to think about, we wouldn’t have blanched at paying a few mill in agent fees, if we had made up our mind that we REALLLY wanted the player. It’s not as if the responsibility of saving the world of football from overcommercialization is United’s, or any one single club’s for that matter, responsibility. And we have done it in the past with Rooney and Rio. Whether Rooney at 18 is comparable to Moura at 19 is a different matter altogether – it’s about whether The Boss wants the guy or not. We would never have gone crazy like a sugar daddy funded club, but if we wanted the player, if Fergie really rated the player, a few million in agent fees were usually not dealbreakers – just don’t see it as Fergie’s style. So, I repeat, if we didn’t have the debt to think of, and if SAF really wanted the player, we’d have paid what it took. Of course, BIG difference would have been the fact that we’d have had the money earned off the club’s hard work and success, not “helicopter-dropped” by some billionaire.
Don’t take this as me weepy eyed at Lucas “snubbing” us…I liked what I saw on youtube, I think he has dramatic upside if he works very hard, but if he’s a puppet on his agent’s chain, or if he fancies The Crazy Horse to Manchester United, then well, good luck kid! I’d rather we buy a decent midfielder who can defend a bit and get stuck in, and a LB and be done with this bollocks ASAP.
Vilhelm28
Did you miss the quotes where SAF said that he has not been restricted by the Glazers?
Your statement:
“The thing is, the Glazers say no. SAF isnt permitted to buy any player without the Glazers consent. The Glazers will not tell SAF who to buy, but they always have the finale say, when it comes to spending” makes a mockery of Fergie’s oft repeated statement.
Either you missed all the quotes, or you are calling SAF a liar.
Either way, wake up or bugger off.
@Warick: Didn’t see much of Ando on the highlight clip someone (whoever it was, thanks – darned if I can remember who, sorry) put up here, but Roo looked fat as fuck – something that a pack of wolves would struggle to get through in one sitting!
911_Devil.
bit optimistic there methinks re our current squad.I will still wait to see what is coming in.Wrong players in and I think it will be a desperate season.
DreadedRed – I am saying that when Fergie says he’s not restricted in spending, I don’t believe him – I don’t think he’s telling the truth. And I see nothing wrong in that. He’s doing exactly what a very astute person in his position would do. And I don’t think I am calling SAF a liar – there’s a subtle difference here beyond the dictionary definition, which I am sure you will appreciate!
With the 2players we bought we still can’t match the City midfield, even with all our players fit! toure n silva are beta than ANYTHING we have to offer, Kagawa comes close but definately not Ando etc! PLIZ dnt tel me u think otherwise
Have ya heard the rumour?? “what rumour george?? the new tea ladys having a medical!!!!
@diablored
Silva is exceptional on his day, but suffered a massive dip in form late in the season. Carrick, although not as brilliant, was more consistent.
Agree re Toure though. I think he was more important to them last season than Silva. Dude’s a machine.
Lol at warwick
The donut dou
Would prefer United to sign younger lads and mold them into the club traditions to keep the heritage and history of United alive. Than sign some old established player in this twilight years or a overpriced primadonna mersinary! I would rather sign nobody until the start of the season than sign any of the above. It’s not Armageddon fellow REDS.
Or I’m I biting my nose off to spite my face?
jeet – and I am saying that if Sir Alex asks us to believe him, I do.
What I don’t do is call him a liar, especially in this open forum.
I accept that you are not calling him a liar, as you have stated that to be the case.
I know that all the ABU latch onto any view that diminishes Sir Alex. Let’s not feed the cancer, especially with suppositions that directly oppose his oft-stated views and opinions.
I’m sure that good owners would not want to over-pay for anything. Our owners let Sir Alex/Gill/etc decide on fair value, and do not unilaterally alter those valuations. If SAF says “Offer 50 million for XYZ player”, we do. If PSG then offers 80 million, we do not match their offer as it exceeds SAF’s maximum valuation.
@kancheskis: just goes to show that I am wasting my life doing what I am, when I could have been the World’s Best Football Manager – I was crying myself hoarse for us to sign Yaya (something I very, very rarely do), and was pretty much laughed out of the the room! Fuck me, how difficult is it for the world to recognize a genius when it sees one?!!
DreadedRed – I think we understand each other…fuck the ABU, they all need someone, to hate on!
Eh up dick swellers
I’m off to Cyprus no so all play nicely. I fly back after the Everton game which will involve 2 goals from RvP, a penalty from Baines and an assist from Martin Skrtel! Be good.
It’s soon one week left till the season starts and it’s about time for Ferguson to analyze the situation with the strikers. 5 strikers who expects and wants to play in every game is too much, especially when Ferguson occasionally likes to play with only one striker. Particularly the Berbatov situation needs to be sorted. Do Ferguson want to play him often like in 2010/11 or is Berbatov in for a 2011/12 again? It won’t favor anyone if he stays and the manager chooses not to play him. It’s up to the manager to think about this and make a decision.
If united employ a midfield of quick passing technicians then toure would by-passed and united dominate games. We were slow and pedestrian last season. Giggs and scholes should never start regular again but that’s up to other players to step up.
Arsenal always spread their legs for city, why the fuck are they so uptight this time..
There’s no such thing as ‘having too many good strikers’. Can’t ever have enough quality, have to keep improving. add more to the strike force i say, those that are in better form will start games. Got players relaxing and getting comfortable.
Another season beckons for hernandez. If he doesn’t improve, people will start getting skeptical about his first season being a flash. Looks erratic and lacking ideas at the moment, time to step up.
Not blaming Moura for going PSG, 250k/week is insane for someone so young and inexperience. Paying such amounts would probably make a young player think he has made his mark in world football, and might make him try lesser, hindering growth. Not something Sir Alex would have allowed.
Say goodbye to another talent ruined by money and greed
Samuel i think a midfield of anderson cleverly kagawa nani valencia can be that. The big thing is for anderson to step up in a big big way
Likelihood of FERGIE buying the midfielder and left-back people clamour for = zero. It won’t happen, rumblings on ROM won’t persuade him. He probably has the idea of trying to utilise youngsters to solve the issue.
Pity there is only one Kagawa – asian born.
If there had been 2 more Kagawas (a midfileder and a left back) there would have been a chance of luring some more “value-for-money”.
Mad world. (c)
@samuel – united WE stand –
>> He probably has the idea of trying to utilise youngsters to solve the issue.
yeah, except the ones who left the club already.
Eric keane – exactly, if we have mobility and move the ball quicker with intelligence in midfield then toure, a powerful player himself isn’t going to keep up. He’s the only city midfielder that can worry any team when he starts motoring up the pitch. Those players you’ve mentioned can all do that, we have to out-wit those blue bastards. We gotta start using the ball efficiently.
We should have trIed out a 3-5-2 formation during pre- season. We we short on defenders.might have worked out well.
De gea
Rafael rio vidic evra
Valencia cleverly anderson nani
Kagawa
Rooney!
This according to me is a lineup that can produce fast incisive passing with good movement on and off the ball..
Any of the above posters who think we have a weak team think this aint talented or good enough? Bellends.
INTRESTING TO SEE THAT LUCAS MOURAS AGENT HAS NOW SAID THAT LUCAS TO UNITED WAS A DONE DEAL HE WAS GOING TO SIGN AFTER OLYMPICS.BUT THEN LEONARDO CAME IN AND TALKED AND CHANGED THE PLAYERS MIND.ALSO SAYS PARIS IS A BETER CITY THAN MANCHESTR
Fuck that Samuel lets sack SIr Alex and bring in Graham Taylor for the long ball tactics
I do hear what your saying I can’t help and look back on the community shield when TC Nani Welbeck and Rooney passed them off the park for Nani first. That’s how good our lads can be. TC needs to stay fit!
@ERIC KEANE
MATE THATS EXACTLY MY STARTING ELEVEN FOR HANNOVER AND EVERTON I THINK IF ANDO STEPS UP THEN THAT TEAM CAN DOMINATE
Corea – i’m guessing you mean zeki fryers? that guy seems to take the cowardly backdoor out of the club. Club or fans haven’t heard anything from him but he’ll turn out for spurs. Warming the bench and getting that fat paycheque. Let’s be honest, he never looked like seriously challenging for a regular spot.
@samuel – united WE stand – Pogba as well, no ? Aren’t we in the need of midfielders ?
I liked Zeki Fryers and he has a potential. It’s his choice, i dunno what were the exact reasons but with Assou Ekoto i think he has every chance of succeeding their and getting regular spot at the left back.
And of course he could have provided cover for Evra. Right now who can substitute for Evra ?
Yeah, i heard a couple of names Fergie mentioned during the South Africa trip.
Samuel we were doing exactly that till that lumbering oaf screwed up cleverly’s season. If anderson does not perform we can switch to a 4-1-4-1 formation with carric shielding the defence and cleverly kagwa nani valencia playing behind rooney.
Petrucci scholes giggs tunnicliffe can provide back up when necessary. As far as the left back situation goes im sure there is a clause in fabio’s loan agreement which allows him to come back if evra is injured long term. In the meanwhile evans blackett brady can substitute when necessary, that is more preferable than spending 16 mil on baines. So i dont think we really need any emergency signings , a midfielder would be great but we just do not buy those.
If you’re joining a team because the city is great then you gotta question the player’s motives. I think he’s been brainwashed by leonardo. Fellow brazilian, promising to take care of him added with a ridiculous amount of salary. I’m sure the brazilians at the club (thiago silva, alex) played their part. It’s a project, oil project.
Markynorbs – at the beginning of last season, we out-passed teams with our quick incisive and inventive football. I think we should aspire to returning to that but we must not neglect our defensive duties.
@corea
mate that should be our priority
its a huge RISK going into a season wih just one left back.
pls sign anyone expect CASHLEY COLE
@SAMUEL
mate i know money can change peoples mind but FRENCH LEAGUE thats not realy much better than brazil. i think he wants to take it as a step for madrid or barca later.ANY WAY HE IS FUCKING GONE.
NOW FOR ROBIN VAN PERSIE
but all i want is a fucking left back.will be pleased if we call fabio back
Morning to those who like fromunder cheese on there bagels.
BIG$$$$ playbozs fuck off, at least we are not Milan selling Vida and Rooney with no replacements.
Kagawa was the key this summer. The rest is nicotine and gravy.
Corea – i’m sorry but when player’s that haven’t proven anything starts asking for ridiculous wages then the club did the right thing by sending them packing. Why, because at some point, we’ll be facing the consequences of giving wages player’s demand. The likes of pogba are fueled with greed, their bank accounts are more important, we’d be struggling to keep him in the coming years. The manager did all he could.
Fryers is decent but time will tell if he is that good. Assou ekotto is a regular and experienced, he won’t give up his place easily.
Sign Baines for fuck sake! Of course if he wants that move.
But i admire the player if what he says about him being happy at Everton and not necessarily forcing the move is what he exactly thinks. At the end of the day Everton gave him the breakthrough to the England setup and with Moyes at the helm provide him with good enough conditions.
In Russia they say “leave well alone” but they could well force a clause in his contract to have the first chance of bringing him back to the club he respects. If he fails to win over that left-back spot.
But he isn’t going to fail.
@kanchelskis, willie
If RVP wants to pay that extra 5 mil, then I wouldn’t be against us buying him. But Arsenal charging us more than they do the rest of the parties interested is pathetic.
We better brace ourselves. Unless a rich club comes along and makes a tempting offer, I am afraid the RVP saga between us and Arsenal will go on for the rest of the month. It’s a real shame that we will once again focus on a luxury player and ignore the gaping holes that we have in other areas of our squad.
@samuel – united WE stand – imagine another 10 Pogbas doing exactly the same thing.
The rest is lyrics.
Our upcoming season shall give us some answers.
Uniuted till I die!
Kebab a defender has to come in , don’t you think?
IPO goes on sale today????
If we had some equilibrium then it would have been easy.
10 Pogbas leaving for money and us discovering 10 Chicharitos.
If Berba was 100% altruist Rooney Wellbeck Chicharito Berba would have been enough in attack.
But it all depends on other areas of course, It’s not enough having 10 forwards.
Sign Witsel!
I am beginning to soud a bit pathetic.
Some emotions creeping in.
Japan coach Alberto Zaccheroni named Shinji Kagawa among his 23-man squad for the home friendly on the 15th of August at Sapporo Dome against Venezuela.
@costas
MATE I THINK SIR ALEX KNOWS ABT THE GAPING HOLES YOU MENTIONED
I THINK HE IS TRUSTING THE YOUTH TO FILL THE MIDFIELD PROBLEMS.
PLUS I STILL BELEIVE WE WILL SIGNA LEFT BACK .MIGHT NOT BE BAINES.DNT THINK SIR ALEX WILL SPEND 20 MILLION ON HIM.
I THINK THIS SUMMER SIR ALEX HAS BEEN ON THE LOOK OUT FOR THAT MAGICAL PLAYER
HAZARD MOURA NOW VAN PERSIE AND I THINK IF WE MISS OUT ON RVP THEN ANOTHER NAME WILL PROP UP
Eric keane – i acknowledge the left back problem but i just don’t think baines can solve it. The only way united can entice him from everton is by promising a regular place (and money), he won’t come as a back-up. I personally don’t think he has it in him to compete against the very best, i don’t think FERGIE has even shown interest hence why the rumours have evaporated. It would be nice to get someone quality to be back up but great left backs are scarce these days. Might have to rely on youngsters or someone like evans (not keen on players being played out of position though).
Regarding the midfield, i believe we have options there. i can’t see the manager getting all these players the media keep rolling out. we have good youngsters in central midfield, play them with experience and we’ll benefit in the long term.
@Zibbie
Yep, a full back had to join us yesterday mate.
That’s what I’ve heard about the IPO. But I don’t have any more details.
Costas – I agree, 3 players are needed, 2 defenders and a midfielder are needed, unles smallen jones vidic rio cleverly carrick fletcher anderson stay fit and powel along with kagwa make a huge impact, we will need to sort out the holes in the squad, which cost united last season.
KOP for sale.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1131178/liverpool-owner-john-w-henry-may-sell-anfield-naming-rights?cc=5901
ARUN
Are you aware that on this blog capital letters signify emphasis or shouting?
You seem to post mainly in capitals. Any emphasis you may wish to impart is lost.
In fact, it appears that most of your views are being shouted at us.
Cheers.
Arun – i don’t think PSG will be a stepping stone. With their philosophy, It’s only a matter of time before they become a powerhouse, it’s all about the money. Moura would probably stay there for a long time if he justifies his transfer fee. Huge pressure will be on him.
@ARUN
It’s probably Van Persie or no one mate. Our transfer policy after Kagawa and Powell signed indicates that we are just looking for the icing on the cake. Doesn’t seem Fergie shares some fans’ concerns about the lack of depth at full back or the lack of a replacement for Fletcher. If we were looking for a player in those positions, it would have been a priority ahead of RVP.
@fitb
mate i think we will do fine with one more left back
in 2008 wen we won the double we had 8 defenders rio vida pique evans evra oshea wes and gary.and gary almost missed whole season due to injury
right now we have 7 defenders in rio vida evans smalling jones evra rafael.fabio has gone on loan will come back next season and i think he will be the long term choice. we need a stop gap arrangement . if we dont get a left back then i think we will bring fabio back in january.
i would be happy if we sign just 1 more left back
wouldnt mind VAN PERSIE ALSO.
If FERGIE signs a player, it won’t be a defender or midfielder. I’m certain of that. He’s not a quick fix type of manager and won’t bow to media pressure. He’s building a team of youngsters for the long term when he retires. The solution to the midfield in particular are already at the club.
Samuel in regards to our defence. We do have issues on the horizon which will be more apparent maybe not this season but defiantly the next. Rio and Patric aren’t getting any younger that a given. At least Vida is back.(thank fuck) But IMO a box 2 box DCM with all the trimming is more urgent. Just cant see one who is available. Is turncliffe the answer?
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/08/09/3296058/lucas-moura-had-agreed-manchester-united-deal-claims-agent
You have got to be kidding me. Can’t really blame the agent now, can you?
Is it just me, and it might be the fact that I do follow developments at United with much more scrutiny, but United’s transfer activity seems to get more and more shambolic as the years go by. And the icing on the cake now is SAF coming out to give press conferences mouthing the most ridiculous things like “oooh Hazard and Moura too costly” (yeah, we weren’t too far from that 30+ million fee!), or “oooh Arsenal want more money, and I really don’t get why they would do that” (d’uh!!!). Meanwhile this squad’s depth is getting shambolic. The summer’s getting painful by the year, just begin the bloody season already.
@costas
mate i dont think there is a problem with right back i think rafael is first choice then smalling
even wen we won the double in 2008 we had wes at RB and he is actualya centreback.
but we do need a left back.would have been happy if fabio hadnt gone on loan.as far as mid feild is concerned i think fergie is looking at younger players to take over also we might see a change in style of play .we have good technical players . i think we will see a lot of quick one touch passing and goals.
@FITB
I hope we don’t ask a lot out of Rio and Vidic. The centre back position is one where we should be fine. But that depends on the young players. Hopefully Evans is over his ankle issues for good. And if Rafa stays fit, Jones can also provide cover there. The biggest question mark is Smalling, who’s seems to have a worrying knack for getting injured or sick when you consider his age.
Fuck signings,what are we doing about keeping the ball better. Small wonder the ginger prince looked at retirement and said Fuck that. Not doing enough in that department. It’s where the game is at now and imo we’ve got some catching up to do
@ZIbbie; “This is NOT Anfield”
@mahesh
i agree mate.we are MANCHESTER UNITED a great club but we have missed out ona lot of players.
i just hope if we are realy serious abt RVP then we do sign him . i defnetely agree with sir alex that we should not spend 45 million plus agent fees on moura but if its 25 millon that arsenal want then pay it.other wise dont bother bidding.
Just to clarify how much is the moura transfer. In pounds? Anyone
Guys, i m cent percent sure that we are not gonna sign a left back..
Call me a pessimist,
It’s over to Evra and his back ups Evans and Smalling now..
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considering if Evans, Rio, Vida, Smalling and Rafael remain fit for the most part of the season, its really difficult to drop any one of them..
assuming Vid and Rio will get paired in most games, we are left with Too much quality on bench in the form of Evans and Smalling..they will be backing up Evra..
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also we need to give a thought about Evra regaining his form..let’s face it, i wouldnt put it behind Evra..he can bounce right back from this slump, but we need to make sure he gets enough rest..
if we are really bringing back fabio after the loan, signing a LB will not make any sense at all..
so until then its all about Evra and the back ups and may be if we sell fabio, then i assume a LB will be coming next season, but i dont think we will sell Fabio..
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All said and done, can somebody enlighten me if rafael is good enough as left wingback?
Zino i couldnt care less about the events that led to Moura changing his mind, either way i hope his career goes down the drain.
Slim,
True that,
in the last 2 seasons we have been pretty unlike United when it comes to ball posession..
I mean we may be good, but we used to be the best in that department..
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Now that Vidic is back, hope Carrick can play a bit upfront and on the attack..
@slim 35 millon pounds plus 9 million pound agent fees plus 250000 punds a wek wages
all and all iwoud say THANK GOD WE DIDNT SIGN HIM
What’s been going on? I see our Mike is off to Cyprus, hope he gets his arse burned in the sun, bet he wears thongs on the beach….ha ha
Mike
If you ever make it to Limassol please let me know, my mum would love to host you for a special Lebanese home cooked meal
markynorbs
Glad you enjoyed the share mate, its something that every modern day United supporter should know
I concur cedars!
A history in captain marvel should be in the national curriculum!
A+ to you sir keep the knowledge alive. Thanks again.
ARUN – we do not really need RVP, do not forget we still have berbatov on the books. Kagwa not only provides the cover for rooney, but he will play off rooney, we have welbeck and hernanez, and if fergie plans to play kagwa in the heart of the midfield, we could ruin a possible and probably world class player in kagwa. That money is better spent on a midfielder who can control games, pending if cleverly and by chance fletcher get fit
mansuy united says:
@Clunt
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Alright darling, Sorry if my joke made your uterus bleed, but read the post again and I advise you with a website to use and even a fucking squad, you ungrateful finger licking thumb fucker. You obviously did not understand the emoticons because they are key to my antics so pay closer attention. Btw Princess, I play the fantasy league too……so your a right fucking loser…..put a tampon in Miss Poppins next time you feel, you feel I’ve been mean to you.
Cedars …..its seems I bring out the pussy in some people
Arun
35million for the transfer I can swallow but those wages don’t add up and I’m surprised by how easily swayed ROM posters have been on this.
Only the elite get 250 thousand pounds a week. Roo doesnt earn as much, Tevez gets just about that much along with messi and ronnie. What fucking manager would sanction a move that could cause such obvious disharmony within the squad. Story is bollocks,o don’t believe it . Transfer isn’t far off from what we were willing to pay and on that I don’t get the fuss. If SAF reckons it was worth paying his club that amount, I’ll take his view over any fan on here who thinks otherwise. Make no mistake we’d have got him if the Brazilian contingent didn’t intervene plus the heavy agent outlay didn’t help matters but that’s nothing new. Pogba and his agent screwed us over not long ago so I’m surprised SAF/Gill went into this thinking they wouldnt have to deal with the agent.add to that the money we paid to roo,rios and bebes agent in the past,its quite puzzling.
Anyone notice if pettruci is still with the senior squad
wtf the season has`nt even started and the defence is depleated again.Fergie ready to deploy carrick in defence.Begining to think hargraves is right.Our medical team is not upto it.
How can we not do with a player like RvP? Do some folk on here think that Fergie is daft for wanting him?
Oh and enough with all this moaning about our midfield, Fletchy Baby is back so we should be fine….
Who on earth in Kagwa by the way? Have we signed another Japanese player?
anyway, once the olympic is over, all our midfield problems will be solved,
after all Bolt is signing for us…
as he makes those rocket runs, Kagwa can pass through the legs of Bolt for a dummy
markynorbs
Cheers pal………..Platini was far worse than how most United fans feel about Terry these days
Sandeep
That the problem isn’t it. We keep looking to one player to be that player who helps the team do that and today it just isn’t possible. For this reason alone have I staunchly defended berbatov. He’s another one schoolef in the arts but we just can’t seem to do anything with him. People are quicker catching up to our game plan of spraying passes to the wings so a cross can come in for Rooney to head in. Fucking hell when was the last time we saw a through ball threaded through for our strikers setting up a one on one with the keeper and yet we castigate Danny for not scoring enough. How’s that gonna happen when we keep playing him like we would a fox in the box striker.
It’s a team effort and im not seeing enough of it. Hopefully players like Cleve,kagawa,powell and Danny give the gaffer something to think about
Well….
There you go sir alex…
Van persie’s agent want £4m pound wonga..[Goal.com]
Knowing how much sir alex detest greedy agents, there’s NO WAY he’ll pay £4m + just to get van persie. No way.
This transfers are bitterly ridiculous
Fuck off dear agent
Try and convince man cini, maybe you can get that, and more from him
Not from us, there’s no ways in hell we are being held to ransom by any IJRY PRN player
Sorry to those who loves him.
Papii
I know you too well mate, you’re mad as fuck and I for one love you for that
Enough of the players missed list its pointless and stupid and most lists are inaccurate because Utd never had a chance or never made a bid,you cunts are just throwing out names that Utd have been linked with over the years,guess what that’s just about everyone
If you feel the need to point out a player Utd didn’t sign then also send the details with quotes from the club with the point you’re trying to make
Stop just making up lists,its fucking stupid and annoying getting right on my tits
Cedars and papii,
all right pal, stop it right there before you both have man crush on each other
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Slim,
we are traditionally strong on thw wings,
I m for one that is against the opponents catching our wing play tactics, nope,
in the last season, 50% of the goals and goals created have come from the wings and wingers..
agreed that we gotta fins some magic with through balls etc..for me kagawa is the answer for that, his vision is brilliant and he is real quick..
I just have a feeling that this time around our team will have better counter attacking pace and options..
Anyone that’s read my previous posts know I love Paddy of old but hate his performances of recent.
He’s become an absolute liability.
Like a Striker that doesn’t score, like Centre back who can’t tackle, like a midfielder scared to pass and and winger too slow to sprint.
He’s a shambles defensively, attacking wise he’s a good option but nothing else. In 10/11 his form was put down to a tough year, burn out and a one-off, he got the benefit of the doubt. In 11/12…it continued despite SAF giving the fella more rests, he was terrible throughout the whole season and combined had 4/5 good games,( Everton,Liverpool, Swansea,Sunderland and a Europa game)….I’ve followed his form quietly and have barely scapegoated during or after games but this is getting pathetic.
Fergie only took a hard line with him after the City battering and it seems after that month Paddy forgot about his duties once again…I don’t know why we persist with him now as first choice. Is it not enough we have inexperience on the right side that we also want incompetence down the left?
Many believe Paddy has the experience to put this poor run behind him and is by far a better option than Baines or a 25 year old replacement ….but maybe this is it for Paddy? He’s 31…its the end of the road for him, he ain’t going to get any smarter or any faster is he if he’s been poor since 2010.
Its best we find a replacement in our own interests….another season of 40+ games for Evra and we’ll suffer defensively.
Imo, I hope Paddy proves me wrong with the return of Vidic, chemistry with Young improving and return of Fletch could all contribute to his return to form. I hope he makes me eat my words but I don’t see it happening.
Ashley Cole adjusted and adapted his game after losing his edge with age, Evra has struggled tbh. I stuck by him last season because he was our stand in Captain but this season like Heinze and Phil Neville….he’s going to get the raised eyebrow from my direction.
Slim:
Last through ball…can’t remember but I do remember some when Clevs was in there earlier last year.
I thought the squad looked pretty good and dangerous last night vs a strong barca team in a frigging FRIENDLY.
wayne
You are with out doubt one of the most sensible posters on here mate………Not sure why, but I always seem to agree with you…..Must be an old school thing
Sandeep
Obviously I don’t agree with you but that’s the beauty if the game we love isn’t it. We’ll see I guess. I’m just of the opinion we could and should be doing a whole lot more with and without the ball. That invariably means shifting emphasis away (not entirely) from wing play. A much better,efficient modern system is required. In my opinion
Cedars my first hatRED (Scouse twat) was KKKenny I hated that fuck more then than I do now.
Wow clint
I second that, 3rd, 4th…..
He was short of ideas last night attacking wise and got easily stripped by barca’s fast attacking move
Valencia is a winger but did quite well as compared to paddy
He nearly let sanchez score if were not for an out-standing save by david.
IMo would take baines with arms wide open
markynorbs
Cannot argue with that mate, although the bugger was a cracking player, mind you our very own Martin Buchan always had him in his back pocket and made him shit him self
Slim
Great read @13:56
I always dreamt of writing the way you do.
Not being snide now
Just enjoyed the read
Cantona got me here
To be honest i missed the game so cant comment about it. That said we were pretty much full strength ourselves
You’re right about clevs. See my post above. I’m hoping him along with shinji,Powell and co give the gaffer sleepless nights about how we should set up going forward.
Phrase from last summer. “We need to get to the next level”.hehehe
Cedars thanks mate I’m tried of seeing these lists with players who had made their intentions clear like Ozil,some still go on about WS all those years ago when Maureen paid him 250k a week ffs
Most North American sports have a cap of around 50/50 split which is what Utd budget and seems fair to me.
What the fuck don’t some posters get no matter how many times its explained just go on making no sense and talking bollocks,drives me potty
Clint like your analysis on Patrice.
Sad but true. Not sure on Baines?
911
If you’re serious about it. You’d do better following more eloquent posters. Denton, sir Giles when he graces us with his presence, MG,Costas to name a few. Word of advice,these guys have no time for mucking about and I gather you have a knack of rubbing people off the wrong way. Just thought I’d let you know
Powell is a great hard ball player @slim
I love how he contained the midfield last night. after he was introduce…
I feared the worst but we started taking over the midfield and our overall game started looking exciting and kagawa begun having those required little spaces which he uses it very economically to create chances for counter…
Infact I saw two fluid interplay after he was introduced, unluckily we had little time time to cause an sort of damage.
But the boss was happy with our play like I was
New thread up for all you phone using fuckers!
wayne
Mate if I allowed some of the shit I read on here to get to me I would have thrown my self over the balcony ages ago! ha ha
Markynorbs – a centre back might be purchased if any quality player is available but the continuous inclusion of wooton might point to the fact he might be getting games this season (not sure how much people rate him). smalling will hopefully recover, jones needs a fixed position and needs to focus on the craft of centre half, evans looks accomplished but he also could do with taking more responsibility. We have good prospects at the back, gotta hope they all step up. Add michael keane to that, always impresses.
As for a defensive midfielder. It won’t happen, FERGIE prefers all round complete central midfielders. The days of the likes of roy keane are long gone. Yes, tunnicliffe is a bright prospect, looks to be developing well. He can be that energetic terrier but looks more composed and uses the ball well. He won’t get intimidated in games but i don’t think he’s ready for the pressure of being a regular, we have to play these younger players with experienced ones, they need to be guided until they can fend for themselves. Add that petrucci who i think is a complete classy player. He’s gotta be knocking on a first team place now, he’s ready to compete with the likes of anderson but again, has to be introduced gradually. We have powell, cleverly, anderson (could come good and played well against barca) and larnell cole who looked outstanding again last night. We’re stockpiled with quality youngsters, is it really a suprise that FERGIE isn’t out there desperately trying entice midfielders?.
Ha slim
They misunderstand me
They always do not catch my drill
Like I dd not know how to get the right side of jokes
But learning just fine, now will understand them better
if you play a system that relies mainly on creative midfielders then you’ll see more through-balls.
@Slim
250k may be accurate. French Tax is higher so just as wages were higher in England than Spain for a long time for the same reason. There is also a chance that all earnings over €1mill will be taxed at 75% so that will more
Rio Ferdinand @rioferdy5:
Me to @NPowell25 last night on the plane “what type of music u into”?…”some old school,90′s & early 2000′s”..haha! Instant old age set in!
Nick Powell @NPowell25:
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Great post Samuel would love to continue this conversation but sadly I’m drunk now and it’s bed time in Sydney. Peace out ROM
When critisising Evra, please look at his winger. Valencia and Nani are far superior defensively to Young. Thats why Valencia and Rafael look good, because they have a good winger ahead of them. A player that can tackle, intercept and that is willing to back track. In the game against Barca, Nani was covering, back tracking and often winning the ball around our box, how often did Young cover for Evra? Please check facts and analyze the games before critisizing Evra.
As for my transfer rant, I made a point of praising SAF, he is god and the only reason our “ok” squad does so well. SAF can cover and hide weak squads.
I also made a point of United being one of sports richest clubs and that United should be the club winning transfer battles. When SAF finds his man, we should be getting him and not other teams. In my rant I didnt say if a certain player is worthy of the fee, all I said was we should be winning.
If the money the Glazers have taken out of Uniteds coffers had been used in the transfer market, SAF could have had any one he wanted and more.