Reports today claim that Flamengo president Patricia Amorim has revealed that Manchester United have agreed to sign 16-year old midfielder Adryan.
After impressing during the South American Under-17 Championship, scoring in their 4-3 win over Venezuela, their 2-1 win against Chile and 3-1 win over Ecuador, United invited Adryan to come to Carrington on trial.
Last week, Amorim apparently said he was in no rush to sell the U-17 Brazilian midfielder and a few weeks ago tied him to a longer term deal, which expires in 2014.
The reports came from Italy today with Juventus having previously expressed an interest in the youngster.
The news won’t will received well by the Flamengo fans, whose club have retired the number 12 shirt for the fans, thanks to their status as the “12th man”.
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Well we keep signing all these youngsters…..when do we get to see some of them in the first team!
Here’s hoping to see the youth of Manchester United lead us to further glories for years to come…!
What do we know about him?
OMG….am I really the FIRST to react to this…
I hope I dont mess up a few people with this post
Well…completely off topic >>>
While we keep on signing players for the future, Arsenal always keep going back to the past
Here’s a look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0Fs1CjVTxU&feature=player_embedded
Please dont laugh!
Hope this is true. Youtube videos show off some amazing qualities which could only be neutered by ourselves or Barcelona. Image right’s alone will be worth the £10 million
WTF red devil, cant you hold your piss
While I do hope some of the youngsters will become big stars and help us win trophies, I think its plainly evident that these signings have more to do with the business model of United. Buy promising youngsters, help them grow to a certain stage, and at the very least sell them with a profit at a nice young age. Your downside is limited because they didnt cost much to begin with, and upside is pretty significant. Sure, you invest a lot, but that’s OPEX, and you dont feel the pinch all that much. Great strategy from a business point of view, though it sounds really hardnosed, but that’s the way it is nowadays. I dont have a problem so long as it doesnt mean we cant sign established stars anymore.
Yeah! Another kid!
Yes but – is he a midfielder or is he a striker? Or am I reading that wrongly?
Hey Man Utd fans. Adryan is a magnificent talent, the best player in the recent south america U-17 Tournament. He’s a midfielder and can play in the wings, However his main position is midfield.
In brazil they have labeled him as one of the most raw talents since Kaka.
Ferguson needs to make sure he doesn’t change adryan’s position like he did with Anderson. I have a feeling he will be special. One more thing Man Utd have a lot of scouts in south america working to find the best prospects. I think this is because of the FFP rules, utd have been investing heavily in that area.
P.S: A deal is almost done for him, I expect it to be completed in the next few days.
Welcome lad. Keep your food away from Bebe.
Great news. Its a great feeling when you hear we get in new players regularly. Any youtube videos though?
I heard his brother Nygel is really uselful too!!
Hi man-Derson.
Here is a video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ZOVUVj3VU of highlights from Brasil vs Equador which they won 3-1.
He wears #10
where are the reports from the chairman ? nothing indexes on google
Another video – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaAn1EOF2Pg&feature=related
He scores the Freekick at 3:48
@Costas
Good one mate
@mattbw
No man…i cant ….and neither should anyone for that matter….said to give problems with erections…lmao
OKAY, BUT UM…. CAN WE SEE A BIT MORE OF ANDERSON PLEASE???
I’d be more interested in this signing if Ando – the oft quoted Scholes replacement – saw more game time. For all our sakes can we please play the kid before he RIGHTFULLY demands a transfer !!! Sorry, but Ando is far too good to sit on our bench when he could walk into any top 4 team tomorrow. We’re gonna have a backlog of Brazilian Midfielders at this rate. PLAY HIM [Rant Over]
Thanks dave. I just found another video of a free kick he scored. ( Brazil’s second goal)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wKa2T0wdLM
Quality.
Thanks Michael
Yo Adryan!
“Ando is far too good to sit on our bench when he could walk into any top 4 team tomorrow”
He isn’t and he couldn’t.
Marcus Bent will be a free agent this summer…….. Please sign him up, having played for over 78 clubs he will bring tons of experience
All I want to know is, can he take a free kick?
wow.Watched Brazil under 17s last week and this kid is top notch. I really mean that. A real playmaker.Scored two including a cool pen. Well pleased.
Reports in the last few days said he was about to sign new deal with flamengo, so I wouldn’t get too excited about this until we get more concrete proof. And while we have pumped more time and effort into our scouting network recently, we have still missed out on the two best young players to come out of south america in quite a while, Lucas Piazon who’s been signed by the rentboys, and juan manuel Iturbe, gone to FC Porto for a miserly 500K. Reports say United have an agreement with porto, we can sign him within 2 years for £10M, but I believe this ‘agreement’ is complete nonsense, I dont believe it for a minute
Dont knock this lad. In the two games I saw he was superb.
@sig
I think you mean “nurtured” not “neutered”.
The first means being fed and allowed to develop; the second means cutting a cat’s balls off
Willie
And hopefully can take a corner as well! lol
Ando-Wank
Carrick-Wank more times than good
Gibson-Wank
Scholes-Legend
Fletch-Good but poor this season
our midfield especialy CM is the worst ive seen in my 20 years of exsistance!
the days of beckham giggs keane scholes a midfield that striked fear into the opponents have gone
We need a big name to get that fear back, not a modric or rodwell but a sneijder or scweinsteiger
Cedars – Yes mate. He has to be good at taking corners as well.
he’s not 18 yet so we cant sign him. And he just agreed a new deal wit flamengo, and his buy out clause is 20m, so i wouldnt get too excited over him.
Ryan – The same Schweinsteiger that has been getting booed by German fans this year?
Anderson was a special talent. The problem with him is he is very lazy and gained weight.
In gremio plenty of fans think he is a mercenary the way he left to porto, It is true he is young but also has had plenty of games to show his quality which in most he hasn’t.
Anderson grew up in a very poor community, so money for him was very important, He now lives the life of a rich footballer and cares less about football.
Ryan90MUFC
Wank? Must be proud of your knowledge of the English vocabulary
I hope he makes the grade here at United. However, I’d still prefer it if we could produce some world-class British and Irish players. I’d be damned if we ever turn out like Chelsea and Arsenal and field an XI full of foreigners.
This is all great and all but I am sure we are hoping for a new signing that could be used for next season.
Red Devil @ 11:07: “Well we keep signing all these youngsters…..when do we get to see some of them in the first team!”
You’ve obviously not been watching Macheda, Rafael, Fabio, Smalling, and – to stretch the point – Bebe and Chicharito. However, you should also consider that kids like Pogba and Petrucci are in the pipeline as well as others.
“Signing all these youngsters” is the other side of Glazernomics – sign kids on the cheap, flog the ones who don’t make the grade and have a pipeline of talent that is schooled in TheUnitedWay. Of course, you could go for Shitty-nomics – sign Barry and Milner for 50 million and so on. It”s pretty clear which “economic system” is viable, self-sustaining, and coherent and which one reflects more money than sense.
@Ryan90MUFC, So what does that mean? Is it supposed to be what you do when these guys play or??? I don’t get it.
I am all for signing youngsters and even though I haven’t heard a lot about this guy, he does seem to be a well-established namea around Italy. United have always bought young players but have also embellished the team with established names from time-to-time a la Cantona, Sheringham, Cole, Berbatov, Hargreaves. I am still guessing we will buy a couple of established players in the summer if a decision is not made on Hargreaves by then.
Our away shirt for next season
http://soccerlens.com/shirts/manchester-united-20112012-away-shirt/8690/
SUCKS!
ahjs says:
“Ando is far too good to sit on our bench when he could walk into any top 4 team tomorrow”
He isn’t and he couldn’t.
___Obviously we disagree.
But I will add, based on the partnership of Carrick and Scholes on Saturday and Anderson’s immediate impact despite us being a man down, Ando was CERTAINLY too good to be on the bench against City. It was obvious (to me anyway) we needed him on the pitch to do a better job than Carrick and Scholes against MOTM Yaya Toure. He shits on all opposite midfielders, not just Fabregas and Essien.
Secondly, if you reckon Anderson isn’t good enough to walk into any top 4 midfield, are you saying you think Ramirez, Wilshire and Lucas are all better players than our Anderson? You sure about that?
Contract still not signed, is it? It would be nice to finally see the young tallents, we “collect” (found most appropriate word?), getting into the first team – Pogba progressing well appearently
@Denton Davey
I am a big fan of your posts on here…you’re usually a voice of reason and logic among a host of more unschooled ramblings like “wank” midfielders or people wanting to “sod off” the entire squad
As for your point, I have been watching all those kids, and enjoying myself in the process. In fact I have been watching a lot of Tunnicliffe and Morrison to add to that and was also a big fan of Magnus Eikrem with his beautiful passing and movement before he was sold to Molde.
Of the people you mentioned in your post, only Macheda may be said to be from our youth system even though he was bought from Lazio when he was 16.
All the rest were bought by United and put into the team — Rafael, Fabio, Smalling, Chicharito, Bebe cannot be called United youth teamers…because they barely played for our reserve teams (let alone youth academies)
Pogba and Petrucci though might be considered as our youth even though both were bought when 16/17 because they will be spending significant time in our youth academy and reserve teams.
As for the economics, I dont dispute that this model makes sense but I would like to see more of our own talent given a chance….
WTF?
Are we gonna play in the San Siro now?
Red Devil
Fan bloody tastic post mate………….
maybe not…
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6882925,00.html
@Michael, obviously thats your opinion but I think its too easy to write off Anderson like that. As a youngster (he turned 23 this month) I’ve only really seen him under perform against “lesser” opposition. Obviously he should perform at the highest level at all times, but the point is he ALWAYS performs in the big games. I’ve seen him do the business too many times against the top 4 for me to just write him off.
The boy is pure fucking class, he’s been class since Hargo was fit, and with the season not yet finished I wouldn’t be surprised if he leaves alot of fans (United and ABU alike) looking like complete mugs for doubting him. Wasn’t long ago most wrote off Nani and reckoned Anderson was the better prospect. Now Nani is 24 and playing like a Man his same critics bitch he isn’t getting the PFA. Funny Old Game. So don’t hold your breath on Anderson not making the grade at United Pal. Like I said, he’s been class on too many big occasions for me to write him off.
Just read the SkySports report on him signing a new contract so not sure what to make of it now, may just be a case of us having to pay more now.
Am I the only one who quite likes that away shirt?!
Yes.^ It’s horrible. The home top, isn’t too shabby.
@ Kanchelskis
Don’t know if I’d go as far as saying I “quite like it” but I’ve certainly seen worse. Last season’s “Power Rangers” kits come to mind. Bloody hideous!
It could be worse, it could Pink.
Red Devil @ 12:53 – thanks for the kind words. I really appreciate them. About “our kids” – we’d all like to see Mancs and Lancs throughout the starting eleven on match-days but for that to ever happen again, those Nintendos and GameBoyx and such like need to be thrown away.
It’s a sign of the times that so few local lads can make it at the top level – guys like Danny Simpson, Phil Bardsley, Chris Eagles (and so on and on) are all good players but to be a UTD player you need to be more than good. That’s the point that is missing in so much criticism of this “crap” team – it’s not a first-team but a squad iwth only a few players who are real stardust/fantasy; the rest are warriors who can fight the live-long day.
The amount of criticism that John O’Shea gets is just infuriating – sure, he’s not Zidane or Maldini but how many times has he been brought in to “do a job” ? and how many times has he absolutely, completely, and utterly failed to hold his end up ? Same goes for ThreeLungPark – and it used to go for Jonny Evans and Wesley Brown before their mental and physical demons seem to have gotten the better of them. Does Darron Gibson ever absolutely, completely and utterly let down the side ? I don’t think so – and Darron Gibson is most definitely no Zidane but I recall he “did a job” against Bayern in the second leg at OT last year. All of these guys “do a job” – it’s their ability and willingness to be foot soldiers that is one of the hallmarks of SAF’s teams. It’s called strength-in-depth and TheArse, RentBoyz, and the pretenders just can’t compete with that.
off-topic, I really dont know if it turns out that my hero, Ryan Giggs was shagging that horrible slut behind his family’s back…enough to give me a sleepless night. Dear God, please let it not be Giggs.
*realy dont know what I will do*…sorry
“how many times has he been brought in to “do a job?”…”
You mean like starting in midfield versus the almighty joga bonito of Arsenal?
Off Topic: I hate everything that even resembles Liverfail, but how sweet was it yesterday watching KK telling Wenger where to go? Fuck me that guy loves to whine. Poor hard done by Arsene Wenger, a collective ROM “awwwww” might be in order.
A silver lining to an otherwise fucking dreadful weekend.
think WHAT??? is ando in disguise on every thread he talks him up,i’d like to see him played more aswell since signing his form has been sporadic,want to see him showing up for every game.no doubting his ability needs to get his head right.
Agreed on Ando. He brought that flair, energy and drive into the team when we were playing like City is some Gods of Football or something last Saturday. I love Scholes, cross my heart but what he did on Saturday was just.. I dunno Scholesy why why why. Like somebody mentioned in the other thread the tackle was just uncalled for and what he did was just unfair to his teammates.
Give Ando his rightfully deserved playing time.
i don’t know anything about giggs cheating on his wife is this bullshit?
Get a load of this guy! He finds time to slight Giggs but not even a mention for the real victim (Nani).
http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,25212,16708_6882694,00.html
Jeet – if Giggsy shagged some bird behind his family’s back it makes him Human pal. Beyond his heroics on the pitch and his tireless charity work, who said he owed any of us a duty to adhere to OUR moral standards and expectations? I’ve been watching him since his debut mate, he’s just a Man.
So if the rumours are true, the shit storm brewing will only made possible because WE put football players on unrealistic pedestals, but dont bat an eyelid at the debauched fuckry conducted by politicians and the aristocracy. Funny that. Anyway, if it turns out to be true don’t lose any sleep aye?
Life Happens.
Adryan is a good talented player, I watched the U-17 and he was quite impressive.
But, he is a diver/cheat and a South-American so naturally his work-ethic and personality must be questioned, doubt that he will make it in England.
I’d prefer if Ravel Morrison, Tom Cleverley, Corry Evans, Ryan Tunniclfe, Oliver Norwood, Paul Pogba and the other Reserve/Academy/Youngsters players get a chance to prove that they are talented and quality player, because that’s the United way.
Stoke, a terrific rugby team, will batter and defeat shitty in the fa cup final, mark my words, I don’t lick where I have spat.
VIVA MANCHESTER UNITED !!!!!!
@wayne
I’d agree, im just pissed that moment wasn’t against City. LIke Raizzen said we showed them WAAAY too much fucking respect when we should have gone for their sodding throats while they were still marvelling at what the inside of Wembley looks like. But back to Ando, like all good players looking for form he needs that ONE performance to set him off. Shame it wasn’t Saturday (last time I’ll type that promise) but we’ll see what the Manager is thinking tomorrow. Alex is talking as if he’ll go for Newcastle’s throat, and for me that means a FIT Anderson HAS to start. We have nothing else like him in our squad atm, and he could still play a huge role in the CL. Fletcher is a while off, so why not give our Box to Boxer a decent run before Schalke? I hope we see him tomorrow.
@WHAT???
I know, mate, I know – it’s just that he was my hero…it’s not logical and I know it, but it’ll be one more step towards me becoming a completely cynical sonovabitch
I’m afraid we’ve jump the gun on this one, it appears that he as sign a contract extension the see is buy out clause go up from 2 mil to 20 mil. This looks like another douglas costa situation.
But on a brighter note, i found out the reason why SAF is so brilliant, its because of is better half just wonderful story.
I’m afraid we’ve jump the gun on this one, it appears that he as sign a contract extension the see is buy out clause go up from 2 mil to 20 mil. This looks like another douglas costa situation.
But on a brighter note, i found out the reason why SAF is so brilliant, its because of is better half just wonderful story.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1378080/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-My-wife-doesnt-let-medals-house.html
….but it’ll be one more step towards me becoming a completely cynical sonovabitch
WELCOME TO THE PARTY PAL !!!!!
@WHAT??? i read were fletcher could be out for the season that virus must be serious,i’d like to see anderson get a run, before his latest injury strated to show why utd paid the money for him.i agree about the semi final aswell should have gone for city’s throat utd should have started with 2 strikers hate it when we don’t.
don’t know if the giggs thing is true but when someone is getting pussy thrown at his face day in day out it would take a saint not to eventually break down.in todays world of internet,cameras,sluts trying to make easy money by ratting guys out players are better off staying single till their career is over.
Thought you didn’t blog about rumours? Or is that you just don’t blog about the Glazers any more?
@JEZZ09
I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss the ‘Iturbe to United’ rumour. I remember reading Tim Vickery’s (excellent) blog on the BBC about a month of so back, and he mentioned numerous reports from South America stating Iturbe would be moving to Porto before an agreed move to United.
Something worth thinking about.
There goes “Sir” Ryan then
A lot of people wonder when we will see all these youngsters. Most on this board also expect maybe even demand that SAF buys players ready to get into the first team and strengthen the team this summer.
the question most need to ask themselves is – will we be happy if SAF doesn’t buy any player this summer but instead includes Cleverly and Welbeck into the team. Both U21 England players, both proved and played will in the PL this season. Welbeck should replace Owen and Cleverly should replace on of the retiring players. United also has a very good prospect (my words and I’ll stand by them) in Obertan. Fast, big and a good shot. If Obertan is going to develop he needs games – are we willing to accept him and his growing pains?
The good thing about buying young players with potential is that you get loyal players who actually want to play for United and not guys comming in in their later years looking for money.
As Vihelm28 says.
Bringing young players into the team guarantees they are loyal. The united way has always been about nurturing young talent.
@What ???
I’m not writing Anderson off, I think he is brilliant and has the pace.However he needs a big man next to him. Ferguson should target M’Villa in the summer.
regards.
If you want to look at upcoming talent lads:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be8lk5WMV8M
We do see young players through all the time. Most just don’t impress when they get their chances. Couple of seasons ago it was Obertan. OK fair enough, now, who would put Obertan in front of Park, Chicho Nani or Giggs? Enough said. Nani is actually one of our youth succesess, as was ronaldo. As is Evans, as are the twins, as is Anderson. As are Chicharito and Smallings but most won’t recognize them as such. The club does give these lads opportunities, some can take their openings, some can’t . It is not a criticism of the club or the player really. Many times it is down to bad luck or bad timing. You think youngsters don’t see opportunities now? You just wait to see what the next manager does. You will likely be reminicsing about the “old days” when a nani or a ronaldo or a smalling could break into the first team.
We do see young players through all the time. Of those that eventually move on, few enough think that their time at United was wasted.
We keep signing yopung player when are we gonna see them play?
ANSWER ;- Wednesdaty night semi final of the FA Youth Cup against the rent boys.
Watch the three princes in midfield POGBA, TUNNICLIFFE & MORRISON, and William Keane up front. These kids are great talents and hopefully have a great future,
Kids can look brilliant at youth level and never progress beyond that – Adryan does look a good prospect better than the one Chelsea signed. He is a midfielder/winger creative more than free goalscoring, but does score.
If there is one Brazilian we should try and get it is the LUCAS that plays for Sao Paulo starred for the brazil under 20 team was better than Neymar looked pure quality
WOW!! 16 years old? Thats crazy, young talent for sure. Dang! I hope that he gets to play and not just warm the bench up. Is he even like physically big enough? In any case, congratulations!
WHAT ??? says:
“But I will add, based on the partnership of Carrick and Scholes on Saturday and Anderson’s immediate impact despite us being a man down, Ando was CERTAINLY too good to be on the bench against City. It was obvious (to me anyway) we needed him on the pitch to do a better job than Carrick and Scholes against MOTM Yaya Toure. He shits on all opposite midfielders, not just Fabregas and Essien.”
You should have Ferguson’s job, then. At what point did it become obvious to you? Before the game? During the game? Because it was only during the match where Toure played further forward. Anderson, as a supposed attacking midfielder (I say supposed because he lacks a lot of attacking qualities), would surely not have much influence vs. Yaya Toure? Toure was the spearhead of their MF, I fail to see how Ando would have countered him. He offered energy but that’s all too common in this squad and midfield; lots of energy, little craft.
“Secondly, if you reckon Anderson isn’t good enough to walk into any top 4 midfield, are you saying you think Ramirez, Wilshire and Lucas are all better players than our Anderson? You sure about that?”
Ramires and Lucas play more for Brazil than Ando. Again, maybe you should be Brazil boss? Is the world conspiring against you from being the new Ferguson, Dunga and Menezes rolled into one? Ramires looked decent for Porto and in the World Cup. I fear Chelsea have a decent player on their hands, given time.
Anderson is 4 years older than Wilshere. Who would have thought?
ahjs says:
You should have Ferguson’s job, then. At what point did it become obvious to you? Before the game? During the game?….
Ramires and Lucas play more for Brazil than Ando. Again, maybe you should be Brazil boss? Is the world conspiring against you from being the new Ferguson….
__You on your fucking period or what?
My point was simple, looking at the line up I didn’t fancy Carrick and Scholes in midfield against Toure and Co. I thought Anderson would have been a better counter-weight to their most experienced player on the pitch. I also said im not second guessing the manager, not in the slightest, just sharing my opinion that Anderson should have started the match, and Scholes should have seen it out, not the other way around. Thats all I was saying in my post at 12.52, so what is it your PRATTLING on about exactly?
Also, on the question of if Anderson can walk into any top 4 team, or not, you still haven’t made it clear what your opinion is despite ranting about mine. You only mentioned who currently plays for Brazil, and that doesn’t necessarily address the question. For what its worth, Barry and Milner have far more CAPS than Scott Parker, but that certainly doesn’t determine who the best midfielder is of the three, does it?
As for your doubt that Anderson could have contained Yaya, I guess you don’t have fresh recollections of him doing similar jobs against Essien and Fabregas (to name but two focal midfielders he’s completely out played before even turning 23)
With young players, it’s impossible to tell who will make it and who won’t. No-one can do that with a consistently high degree of accuracy — not even SAF, even though he is better at it than anyone else. Players that young are still developing, and that development doesn’t follow a linear, predictable path. So you scout around for the youngsters who seem really talented, the ones who look like they might have what it takes. You buy a bunch of the best ones, those you can afford, and who haven’t been snapped up by anyone else.
Then you bring them to Carrington and put them into the mix. You provide coaching and facilities that are the equal or better of anything on the planet. You put them under pressure, find their weaknesses, polish their strengths. You become the major influencing force over every aspect of their development. Remembering that skill is only part of it — that character and attitude and personality are also essential qualities.
Those that don’t make it, you can nearly always sell off for a profit, given the inflationary market. Those that do “make it”, will at least be useful squad players (in the United sense, which means more than it would with any other club) and may turn out to be absolute stars, genuine first-teamers.
Or you can go with Plan B: pay a fortune for older players who have already developed, are set in their ways, may have flaws that you don’t discover until it’s too late, are no more guaranteed to “fit in” than anyone else, and generally can only lose value in the longer run.
Plan A doesn’t seem so bad, to me.
@Cedars Devil
Thanks and Cheers mate!
@Denton Davey
You’re right in that some of the criticism goes OTT. But some of it is true as well and criticism as long as its constructive should be taken on board. There’s no denying that this midfield doesn’t even come close to the one we had in the treble season or even the 2008 season when we had carrick and hargreaves on song with scholes and giggs both 3 years younger…and ronaldo on the wings
All teams need players such as O’Shea and Park to carry them through the tough games and I can recall a few occasions this season where their contributions have been absolutely vital. But I’m sure when we see our midfield struggle so many times this season as has been pointed out by Scott repeatedly in his post game analyses this season, we all wish for better quality somewhere in our hearts….
Lets just hope this next batch of youngsters is the real deal so that our wish of better players as well as ‘Home-grown’ players gets fulfilled !
@stateside
yeah…Plan A doesn’t seem too bad at all
Except you do need experienced and settled stars sometimes to provide the stability and experience and the mentality required at crucial moments in the season — else they end up like arsenal’s pansies without anyone to guide them through the tough times…
A few experienced signings here or there wouldn’t go amiss you know…
With young prospects, there are two factors to consider.
Firstly, scouts aren’t perfect. Sometimes they think they see a talent in a player and think he might turn out to be a great player. I can’t think of any example right now, mainly because I don’t get to see Reserve and Academy players play. I’m sure other RoM members can answer this question.
Secondly, even if a player is genuinely talented and has all the makings of a great player, then comes the even bigger question of “is he good enough to play for United?”. “Can they make the first team?” etc. etc. And this doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with talent. It has to do with English weather, the food, the lifestyle, the United way of playing, the style of football in England, etc. etc. SAF usually knows when a player can make the grade and thats when he throws him into the first-team like the Fledglings, Evans, Smalling, the da Silvas, etc. I have never known SAF to be wrong regarding this, at least not with players developed in-house. Kleberson, Djemba-Djemba and Obertan were NOT developed in-house. Their formative years were outside United.
The reality with United is that we need a constant influx of young talent to keep knocking on the doors of the first team in the hope that we’ll hit the jackpot. We cannot afford to go a half-decade or decade without any new major young talents coming through. It would be disastrous for us. We’d end up like Chelski. Inevitably, this means that a lot more young players will be exiting United than those making it through to the first team. And just because they do well outside United (Forlan, Rossi, Shawcross) does not necessarily mean they’d be any good at United.
So, all the best to Adryan. I hope he makes it to the first-team. Who knows? Maybe he’ll be the one to truly inherit Scholesy’s number!
Red Devil, oh, I do agree, and that’s usually something I point out when I do my rants about the youngsters. (This time I didn’t, because I was already waffling lol.) And with our older legends leaving over the next few years, it’ll be even more important than ever. That’s why I hope to see one or two experienced imports this summer. I don’t like to throw names around, but that’s why I think someone like de Rossi would be good … class, quality, experience, plays a position where we could use a boost, apparently wants to come and (apparently) not that expensive, and is at an age where by the time the youngsters have learned to fly on their own, he’ll already be winding down. But we’ll see…
Lots of good posts here. I also agree that United need to bring in some experience, hopefully in the 5-27 year bracket. But I don’t think United need to bring in that many. Maybe (hopefully) a midfielder. Most likely because Hargo is done and Scholes will retire (hopefully not).
But I firmly believe that United have most of the players they need on their books, in Welbeck, Cleverly, Obertan. A player like Fabio also will need more games next season. Given that young players have the right mental attitude, willingness to train hard and follow SAF’s instructions as well as tactical knowledge – playing games is the single most important factor in creating world beaters.
But SAF knows all about this and has done it a million times before, I just think it will be important for all the fans to be behind our future stars next season and accept that Welbeck could go 10 games without scoring (just like Rooney did this season) without demanding him sold or his head on a plate.
Sidenote: 19 could be resolved tonight (or pretty darn close)
Seriously people going about “will fergie buy a big player” and “Youth is this and that”. I think the old man has some idea what he is doing don’t you?
“Also, on the question of if Anderson can walk into any top 4 team, or not, you still haven’t made it clear what your opinion is despite ranting about mine. You only mentioned who currently plays for Brazil, and that doesn’t necessarily address the question.”
Jeez, YOU brought up Lucas and Ramires. And Wilshere, who I said plays like he’s four years older than Anderson, not vice-versa.
We’ll agree to disagree. Sounds like I offended you, which I didn’t mean to do.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but Carrick has been on form and Scholes has been arguably United’s best player against City in the last couple of years. I’m sure Anderson has countered good players in the past but I don’t find him reliable. And Yaya Toure is a powerful player, I’m not sure what Anderson would have done (I know Carrick didn’t do much but he defends with intelligent positioning etc, something which Anderson hasn’t really developed yet).. What I’m saying is it would have been even worse with Anderson in the side. Perhaps he could have played instead of Park, but Ferguson might as well have pushed Park further back.
I don’t think that’s where the game was lost, though. Missed chances and mistakes.
No not offended, not at all, just wondered where all your Sarcasm stemmed from. Needless to say, Supporters CAN state their opinion without trying to “have Ferguson’s job” or even “be Brazil boss” – As You put it, thats all.
In response, im guessing Anderson will start today and if so his performance (hopefully) will ease your doubts as to his reliability. I said earlier he has certainly underwhelmed against lesser opposition on some occasions, but in big title deciding games with Chelsea and Arsenal (for example) I am yet to see him put in a poor shift. SO my faith in him based of his best performances against the best, his age, and the fact he’s adapted to playing COMPLETELY out of his natural position in a foreign country. I think he’s underestimated at United because his best is yet to come.
Also, on those occasions where Anderson kept Fabregas and Essien in his pocket, home and away, it had less to do with his positional play per se and more to do with his energy, skill and strength. Anderson is too dynamic a player to base his game on defensive positional play alone. I won’t labour the point because its all semantics anyway, but WHEN he shat on those players he did so by pressuring them off the ball, keeping tight to them, and closing them down, which all required an ability to read the game. Once he got broke up possession, he used his pace and passing to counter attack and feed the forward line and wings. Anderson is a small fella with a good engine, but watch his play, he is also very very strong on and off the ball. He holds off players bigger than him all the time, funnily enough many attribute that to his large arse. I just think he’s a tough little Bastard with an eye for a ball.
But your right, we’ll agree to disagree, that is, until we’re all demanding to know why he hasn’t won the PFA next year. I’ll happily remind you of our conversation! Cheers.
He is doing wonders at the u-17 world cup in mexico. . . Scott plz blog on this guy
Guys,
Let the Adryan be in my team for a while.. I’m Flamengo and I want to see he playing with the professionals for some time…
Dont buy him now… I hope Man Utd wait some time.
Adryan is looking as good as a 16 years old can, bu still, he’s only 16 years old and by that age even Anderson looked like a world beater.
Buying Adryan now would be risky to United I believe, $20 million is just too much to risk for a 16 years old, and Flamengo would also be stupid to let him go by such a small price when in 3 years from now he could easily be worth $50 million (if Torres is worth $50 million, ANYONE can be too.)
“”jezz09 says:
Reports in the last few days said he was about to sign new deal with flamengo, so I wouldn’t get too excited about this until we get more concrete proof. And while we have pumped more time and effort into our scouting network recently, we have still missed out on the two best young players to come out of south america in quite a while, Lucas Piazon who’s been signed by the rentboys, and juan manuel Iturbe, gone to FC Porto for a miserly 500K. Reports say United have an agreement with porto, we can sign him within 2 years for £10M, but I believe this ‘agreement’ is complete nonsense, I dont believe it for a minute”"”
By the way, that Piazon kid Chelsea got, although good and talented, is far from being one of the best young players in South America in recent years, he’s talented for sure, and could become a great player, but he has never shown anything to make us believe he is special like Adryan is doing or Neymar and Anderson did.
“WHAT ??? says:
Secondly, if you reckon Anderson isn’t good enough to walk into any top 4 midfield, are you saying you think Ramirez, Wilshire and Lucas are all better players than our Anderson? You sure about that?”
Ramires and Lucas Leiva are in the Starting XI of the Brazilian National Team, while Anderson is not even considered in here (Lucas and Ramires are the first team holding midfielders, Sandro and Elias are the substitutes [Elias is in because he can play as offensive midfielder too].
And we still have Hernanes, Arouca and Willians who are way ahead of Anderson, Fernando of Porto is also doing very well.
All in all, yeah, Ramires and Lucas Leiva are waaaaaay better than Anderson, there’s no sense even comparing them.
Sorry.
I want united to sign more young players that will help’ like tom,jones,welback,and othersI want united to sign more young players that will help’ like tom,jones,welback,and others