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Valencia: I Am Angry

Antonio Valencia has been one of United’s best players this season, which is why it is so frustrating that he picked up a hamstring injury in his ten minute substitution appearance against Ajax.

After suffering a nasty injury the season before last, which saw him miss most of the season, he admitted he was worried this latest injury would keep him out for a long time.

“After my last injury experiences I feared the worst,” he said. “I was anguished but after tests the medical staff have confirmed a muscle rupture in the hamstring. It’s important but not grave – I should be back in a month. I am angry because it has happened at such a key moment in the season for United. I have developed and played some good matches and that’s the worst consequence of all this. But now the doctors have calmed me down and I have to recuperate and then help the team in our race to win the Premier League and Europa League.”






 

195 Comments

  1. MG says:

    Legend

    The doctors have calmed him down – passion runs deep – every player should have the same mentality and loyalty

    19

  2. Raizzen says:

    No brainer. He’s been on of the most in-form member of the squad. Despite dominating possessions and looking dangerous on the final third. United didn’t look like scoring a second goal against Ajax up until he came on.

  3. REDibro says:

    he’s a top Red. who woulda thought he’d be one of our most important players when he came in after Ronaldo? now its time for Cleverley to step in.

  4. gerkeo says:

    He has developed into a key player in the team. No bullshit about him and rarely plays a bad game. At least he’ll be back and fresh for the run in.

  5. #07 says:

    Antonio Valencia=Top Red. End of.

  6. Pabst Blue Ribbon says:

    Top lad, He seems to heal pretty quickly. After he broke his leg against the gers he seemed to rebound pretty quick. I’m sure we’ll see him back in no time.

  7. The truth says:

    I too was angry at his poor luck to get injured like that. His inclusion in the game was not even necessary which just annoys me even more. SAF though could have not foreseen that, so make no mistake I am not pointing the finger at anyone. With the dire performance from Nani the other day, I don’t think Valenica should be too worried about losing out on his place. I do hope he has a quick recovery and makes it back for the Spurs game (?).

  8. parryheid says:

    How the hell did they figure out he was angry?

  9. Jonny says:

    Anger, fear, aggression… the dark side are they. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.

    Just look at Suarez!

  10. smartalex says:

    parryheid, it might be because Valencia said: “I am angry”

    There is a connection on a deep level, believe me!

  11. parryheid says:

    Smartalex.

    Certainly wouldn’t be because they read his expression.

  12. mikekelly12 says:

    Smartalex
    haha, you should get a job with MI5 with those super sleuth powers!

  13. wayne says:

    Jonny what the fuck are you going on about there isn’t a human alive that doesn’t have those emotions,what the fuck is the dark path? don’t understand the comment or what the fuck it has to do with Tony V

  14. smartalex says:

    parryheid – I’ll admit, I missed your subtle comment completely!
    You are right, it wasn’t through MI5 interrogation screens!

    mikekelly12 – thanks mate, but it seems it was all a test. It’s always a test!
    I failed, and thus will continue to thread needles venously in my cardboard box.

    More MIA than MI5

  15. mikekelly12 says:

    Wayne
    I think Jonny was having a laugh regarding star wars.

  16. wayne says:

    mike thought that was the dark side and why the reference to Saurez,think the comment was serious,if if was a joke i’m to stupid to connect the dots

  17. denton davey says:

    The time has come for Ashley Young to “prove” that he was worth the time/effort/money.

  18. mikekelly12 says:

    Wayne
    That’s what he said, “The dark side are they” just sounded a bit Yoda like to me so thought he might just be pissing about. Might be wrong, I’m sure Jonny will clear it up. Maybe get Inspector Smartalex on the case?

  19. smartalex says:

    denton davey

    Did you get a new drum for Christmas?

  20. wayne says:

    denton setting groundwork for Young bashing,looks like he’s about to become the new Berba

  21. mikekelly12 says:

    Denton
    I agree, he’s looked a little predictable since his return, lets hope he can kick on and show his early season form. Lets hope too that Nani gives us Nani the Great and not Nani the Frustrator.

  22. wayne says:

    mike could be right mate thought the more evil the person the less emotions one has,doesn’t matter i just missed it i guess

  23. smartalex says:

    The evidence before the court is incontrovertible, there’s no need for the jury to retire. In all my years of judging I have never heard before, of someone more deserving of the full penalties of law. The way Jonny made us suffer as he mumbled in some gutter, fills me with the urge to defecate!

    Since, my friends, he has revealed his deepest fear,
    I sentence him to be exposed before his peers.

    Up against the wall!

  24. Gopher Brown says:

    @The Truth

    You are blaming the manager for bringing him on though. His inclusion was justified as he helped produce the 2nd goal and to maintain peak fitness and form he needs to play a part of every game.

    Young is just back from a fairly long-term injury and was short of match fitness. We needed that 2nd goal as it means we can rotate for the second leg with must-win game as Norwich next Sunday.

  25. mikekelly12 says:

    The Mirror say Manchester City are ready to make a £35million bid for Benfica’s Argentine midfielder Nicolas Gaitan…I know it’s rag talk but wouldn’t be surprised at the shit bags bidding for another long term United target.

  26. wayne says:

    mike the article i read said Utd have made a gentlemans’s agreement already for 30 mill,still in Febuary and the papers are going on about summer signings,fucking joke.Mind you way things are going think Torres will be available for 10mill,still might be to much though.

  27. KingOfStretfordEnd says:

    Top lad. It’s nice to see players feeling the same passion as fans.

    He’s important for us, and he’s gonna play a major part when he’s back. Hm, and heard Vidic could make a surprise comeback before the season ends!

  28. mikekelly12 says:

    Wayne
    10 bob would be too much for that blonde mained prancing pony!

  29. Jonny says:

    You can’t win, Wayne. Strike me down, and I will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.

  30. 0161-Jon says:

    If we want Tony back quick best we send him elsewhere for treatment. Hope he doesn’t disappear into the carrington medical black hole.

  31. wayne says:

    I have to admit not a huge Star Wars fan but didn’t Obi Wan get eradicated

  32. MG says:

    Lord of the Rings :arrow: Star Wars

    :lol:

  33. MG says:

    Peter Jackson :arrow: George Lucas cash cow

    :lol:

  34. wayne says:

    mike he’s not getting the service and joined and declining team but has to be Romans worst signing ever,today Rentboys looked dire,Luis also proving to be a bust his defending especially his postional play is poor,Mikel is just not good enough and never has been,Lampard,Drogba,Cunt and Essien coming to a end.Rentboys have major problems

  35. MG says:

    Star Wars The Phantom Menace 3D

    Now you can watch a pile of shit enhanced in 3D

    :lol:

  36. wayne says:

    MG no question mate Lord of the Rings is a masterpiece,Star Wars good marketing and mass brainwashing

  37. MG says:

    One final point

    Lucas selling out by Yoda doing Kick Ass was bad enough but Yoda in a Vodafone advert?

    Fuck off Lucas all that you built goes down the drain never to come back

    (one might argue it went down long time ago)

  38. daemondada says:

    hi pals.gotta love tony v.guyz a beast,our beast.and yeah for those who havent noticed yet he is one if not the most expressionless of faces in our squad.good or bad times neva get his goat.sheer mafia.sure we’ll get him back 4 d spurs game deffo.4 me,e best winger on d planet bar Christiano.luv u bro.stay safe and Godspeed ur return.Take care ROM!

  39. MG says:

    wayne!

    Look at that for similar comments above ha ha ha nice one mate

    Truly the force is with us :lol:

  40. mikekelly12 says:

    MG
    Loved star wars as a kid, didn’t even bother watching the new stuff, didn’t want it to ruin the joy i experienced as a young kid . How you doing pal?

  41. wayne says:

    MG on the same page with you on Lucas been soaking Star Wars fans for years,’i know these fucking idiots will watch and buy anything,let’s add 17 seconds and re-release them’.
    Has to be the most overrated director/producer in the history of film and as we’ve talked about before ripped off the orginal Star Wars from the Hidden Fortress

  42. captaink9 says:

    Disappointed about Tony V injured, been super for us, looks like Nani and Young back in.

    Pictures circulating with the new and absolutely shocking home top for next year. I hope its not it…….. CHECKERED!

  43. MG says:

    Mike

    Well said mate I had the same inkling and feeling – I’m fine mate – how are you doing ;)

    wayne

    The worst thing is he Spielberg and Coppola have simply run out of steam – one can only say that Scorcese is the only one hangng in there – shame – only have themselves to blame with the crap they come up with – Lucas keeps on changing the original stuff to an extent where you can’t recognise it any more – the supposed new stuff was a complete waste of time and space – yet fans just lap it up

    Like I said I cringed when I caught Yoda in a mobile advert here in this country – disgusting – hasn’t he got enough? He’s selling himself out – well he did long time ago

  44. King Eric says:

    “denton did you get a new drum for Christmas” Ha.

  45. CedarsDevil says:

    Leeds losing at home yet again, and I thought my weekend could not get any better…..

    Deluded, sheep shagging, Munich chanting hateful cunts

    Oh and I hope they get Costas’ favorite manager, what a match up that would be

  46. King Eric says:

    0161 Jon – To be fair mate the much maligned medical staff didnt do a bad job getting him back last time did they. I love Tony . I posted a quote yesterday but it was on a long thread. He was asked “who has been your most difficult opponent”? He replied “I haven’t met him yet”. Top bloke. Top Red. Will see out his career at United I reckon. No fucking about with him. Akin to Scholes. Plays the game, goes home.

    The Tranny was subbed at halftime after FIFTEEN touches in the entire first half. His last goal was against the mighty Genk back in fucking October. Fuck me.

  47. King Eric says:

    Nah. Star Wars > Lord of the Rings,. Those films fucking bored me. Went to the lot with Ruth and fell asleep at every one. Too fucking long! The new Star Wars films are shite though!

  48. Costas says:

    Beast. I can see him returning sooner than expected.

    @MG

    Hin mate. I love both franshises, but Star Wars still edges it for me, no matter how much Lucas messes around with the original trilogy (in case you don’t know he even made some additions to the scene where Vader kills the Emperor). Watched Phantom Menace in 3D. There were only specific times when you could tell it was 3D. But I won’t hold that up against him. There’s so much you can do with a movie that was shot in 2D 12 yeard ago.

  49. Costas says:

    *years*

  50. CedarsDevil says:

    The original Star Wars, first two to be precise (Now fucking episode 4 & 5 ?) any day for me….

    Like King Eric, I got bored watching the first Lord of the Rings, especially the first one where it just bloody ended with no conclusion! I was left fuming! Good action though it has to be said

  51. CedarsDevil says:

    Costas

    Hi mate…. Question us can you trust the medical team? haha

    Mentioned you earlier with regards to Warnock and Leeds, what a pair up eh?

  52. Costas says:

    The good thing about Lord of the Rings was that the story was laid out ahead of time and Jackson basically created a 9 hour movie that peaked at the right moment. Star Wars (both trilogies) had their ups and downs. Like Cedars said, the original trilogy’s first 2 movies were fantastic, whereas the prequel trilogy featured only one great movie: Revenge of the Sith.

  53. CedarsDevil says:

    Is not us……. fucks sake

  54. mikekelly12 says:

    MG
    I’m fine pal. Just watching my fixed odds go out the window. Should really stop betting on football.

    Never watched any of the lord of the rings films, not my cup of tea.

    The check kit is the new United top? My mate works for Nike and he went to the official launch a few months back. \i haven’t seen it be he reckons it looks quite good in the flesh.

  55. Costas says:

    @Cedars

    Hi pal. No, I trust Antonio in this case! The guy is remarkably fit and he proved it last year. We just have to be careful we don’t stretch some players to the breaking point. Valencia was one of them. Carrick, Rooney and Evra have also played a lot of games.

    I commented on Warnock elsewhere, it’s really the case of 2 piles of crap finally finding each other. I am surprised it took them this long. :lol:

  56. CedarsDevil says:

    Costas

    I do not think I would have found better words to describe that match up! Brilliant

  57. Jonny says:

    @captaink9
    Looks like a pair of bloody pyjamas.

    There is a picture with it alongside an Arsenal and Barca shirt too which akes it seem legit.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1067317-nikes-new-fc-barcelona-arsenal-and-manchester-united-kits-for-2012-13

  58. MG says:

    Finally the truth is revealed :lol:

    King Eric fell asleep and thought he was Obi Wan in Middle Earth :lol:

    Costas has turned into the 3D dark side :lol:

    Mike couldn’t find Lord of the Rings tea bags :lol:

    And Cedars is stuck in the 70′s :lol:

    On the new kit: I hope so too Mike – not sure in photographs but might be a surprise in real life.

    :D

  59. CedarsDevil says:

    My weekend is ruined, bastards came back twice to win it!

    MG

    My time machine broke down some time in the late 70′s!

  60. Stretfordborn says:

    Get better soon, watching the cup why has oneils name gone out of the bag of options for next manager, every club he’s been too hes got 110% our of the players! Experienced and got a good few years left in him until ole is ready to take the reigns. He brings youth in, gets young English players playing well and is very much the same sort of manager as SAF! Just a thought

  61. TK99 says:

    Best player for United this season without a shadow of a doubt…I really hope he comes soon …fresh and stronger.

  62. King Eric says:

    That Arsenal kit is hideous. Its like our white away kit from last year but with more red in it.

  63. MG says:

    It’s okay Cedars

    We are all here for you :lol:

  64. Lebomanc says:

    About Valencia… He’s been our key player for a while. Loosing him is such a bummer!

    About the new kit everyone is talking about… I didn’t like it to be honest, thought it looked old! My bro though thought it ‘wasn’t bad’ when I showed him a pic!

  65. CedarsDevil says:

    For me, Carrick, Evans and Tony V have been our best players so far this season…. I could throw in Rooney into the mix as well even though he has had his usual off days….

    MG

    I can always count on it!

  66. WillieRedNut says:

    United and Arsenal must have the same medical team working for them?

  67. captaink9 says:

    @King Eric Arsenals is better than ours id take it, this kit has gotta be the worst yet. whats up with Nikes designers.

  68. CedarsDevil says:

    What is all this talk about new kits? Not seen anything and I do not care…..

    The lads can play in pantyhose for all I care

  69. captaink9 says:

    holy good fuck the away kit is the same but blue….
    click the link above ced

  70. Lebomanc says:

    Will de gea’s kit change?
    I like his current one

  71. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Tony Valencia such a player!

    “I am angry … But now the doctors have calmed me down and I have to recuperate” Love his attitude. Rotten luck with injuries.

    Seems like we should fire the fitness staff, bring in Giggies yogi for the entire squad. We could also hire a team of witch doctors… Yea, then the team could be proper Red “Devils” :cool:

    Here is the interview on sky
    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/7529304/Valencia-feared-the-worst

  72. salvenue says:

    It’s a shame for Tony V but the reds will manage without him now that Nani and Young are back. Here’s an interesting blogpost claiming United have the best midfield in England; just like Barcelona’s.

    http://otmcr.blogspot.com/2012/02/best-midfield-in-england-just-like.html

  73. AntiScouser says:

    new kits are horrible, also prefer the current ones to those of last season.

  74. smartalex says:

    Here is a scintillating read by an incredible writer:
    http://not.my.blogspot.I.promise.com/2012/02/best-way-to-get-hits-like.html

  75. salvenue says:

    Smartalex

    What’s wrong with that?

  76. MG says:

    Cedars

    RVP needs some love here ;)

    Come on Cedars – do some telepathic stuff :lol:

  77. wiuru says:

    Tony V , top Red , a class human being . Will be right up there in my hall of United fame eventually .

  78. Costas says:

    @MG

    I hate the Phantom Menace mate, but my first 3D experience could only have been a Star Wars film. :)

    I am now waiting for some Jenna Jameson classics to be released on 3D. :P

  79. smartalex says:

    salvenue

    It would certainly be a more attractive link had you been upfront about it. If you want us to read your blog, you should first show us over time that you have something to say that is worth hearing. In this instance, as it was obviously too pressing for you to earn our trust over a period of time, you chose instead to be disingenuous by not stating that it was your work that you wished us to see.

    Inspire me to click on the link to your piece.

  80. Utd4life says:

    It wouldn’t surprise me if he comes back sooner than expected. Get well soon Tony V.

  81. smartalex says:

    salvenue – Your powers of persuasion have convinced me that you are unconvincing.

  82. WillieRedNut says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2103031/Wayne-Rooney-watches-Everton-FA-Cup.html?

    Rooney goes back to Goodison to watch his old club play in the cup. Nice one wazza! Healing old wounds.

  83. salvenue says:

    Smartalex – I can’t say that I’m not disappointed but then at least I got to post the link a second time.

  84. WillieRedNut says:

    Post the link a 3rd time and you get a lolly pop!

  85. smartalex says:

    salvenue – ramming your wagging tongue down our throats is not likely to get you to 2nd base.

    It was the kiss of death.

  86. RedHarry4Life says:

    How shite are the Rentboys this season?

    I mean being unable to win a game against Birmingham when it is managed by their pet ref good old Roubles Atkinson. Gave them a penalty and the Rentboys still managed to miss it

  87. WillieRedNut says:

    Bye bye gooners!

  88. RedHarry4Life says:

    LOL Costas.

    Prefer Bree OIson in 3D………….

  89. MG says:

    It’s gunner be hard to get out of this one

    :lol:

  90. salvenue says:

    Smartalex – Sorry mate if I have annoyed you; not my intention.

  91. RedHarry4Life says:

    2-0 to the reserves over the gooners. Just gets better and better LMAO

  92. MG says:

    I’d like to have Amy Green in 3D

    That’s just for starters

    :lol:

  93. Saad says:

    How can one not feel sorry for gunners fans?

  94. WillieRedNut says:

    Cracking win for Sunderland? O’Neill is working that magic again!

  95. RedHarry4Life says:

    Bet you that Oxalde-Chamberline is SO GLAD he choose the Arse over United.

    Smart smart boy.

    Wonder if we should call Sunderland the reserves No 1 and Everton the reserves No. 2 team?

    Anyweay great to see some of our resereve teams in the QFs of the FA CUP.

    Wayne was just down watching the Reserves today.

    What other Classics would we like to see in 3D?

  96. Utd4life says:

    How shite are Chelsea and Arsenal this season and still people say UTD are on the decline. LOL. My predictions are that Chelsea won’t win anything this season and so will Arsenal. Arsenal won’t even make the top 4 considering how bad they are playing. They look absolutely bereft of ideas. If RVP wasn’t playing for them then they would be langushing with the likes of Wolves, Blackburn, etc.

  97. Utd4life says:

    The rentboys are a bloody joke this season. One of my chelsea mates was telling me that they are atleast in the CL unlike us. Well, you ain’t gonna win it son not with that squad.

  98. Jonny says:

    Arsenal – play within their means, don’t spend massive fortunes on transfers or wages. Have history. Develop young players.
    Chelsea and City – Buy their success. Complete lack of class and little to no history of success before the last decade. A cancer on football.

    I really hope Arsenal come out of this decline.

  99. Jonny says:

    Wenger spent 120 million in the last 5 seasons, and sold 168 million worth of players.
    So basically a net transfer spend of minus £48m.
    Not bad for 4th place in the league.
    City and Chelsea have probably spent the best part of £500m in that time and not really won much either.
    If Chelsea and City never came into that money, transfer fees would not have been so inflated. Some of the youngsters that have gone to those clubs would have been signed by Arsenal or United, and for lower prices.

    While we have managed to compete with those two due to our massive income, Arsenal have not. That is the real cause of their decline.
    Don’t forget Wenger won them the double, and built that invincibles team, so he is by no means a bad manager.

    What I am saying is that even though they are our rivals we should support their philosophy, based on football, not money.

  100. Jonny says:

    @salvenue
    Everything about that blog seems pretty crap to be honest.
    It’s all blurry pictures and non-sensical headlines.
    I’m not surprised you didn’t admit it was yours to start with…..

  101. WillieRedNut says:

    He inherited the famous back 5 though? So, he didn’t entirely build that team. He’s struggled to replace those players. Granted, it is difficult, but you still have to try. As for supporting their philosophy? I won’t be doing that. I’m happy with our way of doing things. Arsenal play lovely football. no one is denying that. I feel the difference between them and us, is we’ve always had a plan b in our locker. You can’t play everyone off the park. Off the pitch, Arsenal are doing it the right way. It’s on the pitch though, that their fans want too see things happening. 7 years is far too long without a trophy for a club the size of Arsenal.

  102. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Smartalex

    Must say mate disappointing how you treated Salvenue above. Poor lad was just posting about United and offered up a read. If he has took the time to blog and offer it up then we don’t need to shoot him down.

  103. Saad says:

    A report on Soccernet saying that Vida could be back before the end of the season coz his recovery is apparently ahead of schedule. Personally, I’d prefer it if they didn’t rush him and let him recover slowly and completely.

    Better for him to target 1st September 2012, 1st October at the latest.

  104. WillieRedNut says:

    I posted the Vida story last night Saad? Hell of a boast, if he makes it before the end of the season. More likely he’ll make the start of next season.

  105. Jonny says:

    If he was fully fit would Vida get in the team ahead of the excellent Evans right now?
    Evans, Smalling and Jones. Great set up we have in central defence!
    Fabio and Rafael at either side and De Gea in goal. Brilliant.

  106. smartalex says:

    Giggs12Gerrard0 – if you are disappointed, then your expectations were not sound.

    I dealt with salvenue in a very fair way, and did more for his career as a blogger in my 2-way conversation with him than he’s likely to have learnt in months had I refrained from showing him how obvious and silly his approach was. I spoke clearly, politely, accurately and was absolutely focussed on his blogging career. I also opened a door to easy redemption on this thread by asking him to inspire me to click on the link to his piece.

    My responses appear at 17:59 ; 18:10 ; 18:32 and 18:51 on this thread.

    Responses.

  107. smartalex says:

    Giggs12Gerrard0 – if you are disappointed, then your expectations were not sound.

    I dealt with salvenue in a very fair way, and did more for his career as a blogger in my 2-way conversation with him than he’s likely to have learnt in months had I refrained from showing him how obvious and silly his approach was. I spoke clearly, politely, accurately and was absolutely focussed on his blogging career. I also opened a door to easy redemption on this thread by asking him to inspire me to click on the link to his piece.

    My responses appear at 17:59 ; 18:10 ; 18:32 and 18:51 on this thread.

    Responses. Just like this one.

    Otherwise, you well mate?

  108. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Smartelex

    I’m good mate, I just thought above was a bit unnecessary that’s all I was saying. If people just to click it sound, if not leave them to it. I just think we can be a little hardcore on here sometime.

  109. MG says:

    Hardcore is good

    Of another kind

    :lol:

    What?

    I was talking football support was there something else?

    :lol:

  110. bobkoh says:

    I’m getting an away United shirt with ‘Valencia’. He is dedicated to our cause each and every game and is the spark of our team.

  111. King Eric says:

    Jonny. Absolute myth mate that Arsenal develop young talent. Who? Ramsey has gone backwards. Walcott dogshit. Wilshire spends half his time injured or boring folk on twitter. They have developed fuck all. The media spin this myth they do. They don’t. Walcott was bought for big money as was Chamberlain. Nasri, fabregas bought in. Rosicky. Van persie and so on. They are fucking awful at present and its time Wenger got the brunt. They are lightweight but have fuck all quality now. Its ok balancing the books but which fan cares? Mertesaker, arteta, benayoun all poor replacements. Squillaci. Fuck me. What a poor side. Arshavin bought for large ish money. Djoure shocking. Wenger has made a real fucking hash of things down there and is taking them backwards. Not to mention Chamack and that Park character.

    Gotta say loved Keanes comments abour half the Arsenal team turning up in gloves. Wonder if he was still our captain what he would make of Rooney, Nani etc wearing them. No fucking need. Soft cunts. Especially today. Was like a spring day. Also said worst Arsenal side he has witnessed. Ouch.

  112. smartalex says:

    Giggs12Gerrard0

    It’s not okay to start a blog and post links on Scott’s blog without talking to him first.
    Alternatively, a polite and honest explanation attached to your link is the minimum.
    Even then, this is not the place to advance your blog.

    If you yourself start a blog, we will all support you. We know you. You won’t take the piss by posting a link here each time you write a blog-post, and the links you do post will be worth visiting.

    We are not fodder for budding bloggers, we are members of a respected community.
    There are tens of thousands of United bloggers.
    When one appears from nowhere and posts a link as if it’s a random piece, I chat.

  113. smartalex says:

    Write off Arsenal at your peril!

    I still think that they will win the FA Cup this year.

  114. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Smartalex

    I generally don’t see any beef with it mate, many a folk have posted links and blogs on here. Tufty and stretford end flags, the boys from Busby Way and even links to newspaper articles etc. If I posted a link to another news source I see no difference. Anyway pal don’t want to drag it on like I say I just thought it was a wee bit unnecessary.

  115. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    King Eric

    Mate as I text you last week Arsenal do have a myth around youth development. They buy all their youth in Walcott, Ramsey, Chamberlain, fabregas, songetc etc the only one who has genuinely made it through is Wilahere. Wenger is a lucky man to still be in charge.

  116. NBI Red Onion says:

    Vidic, Valencia, Cleverly & Scholes with Welbeck, Rooney and Hernandez – a damn strong end of season and hopefully we can pip those cocky little ewoks at City – it will be tight but with these guys back given their skills and mental strength and influence – I would back us to shade it…how damn exciting would it be to get to TWENTY.

    @ King Eric – been travelling and working like mad and on here sporadically but I did catch you are now a daddy – may I add my very belated congrats which I have had at the back of my mind to convey for a while. Will be at OT sometime in April so hopefully catch up with a few ROMers then if can co-ord it.

  117. NBI Red Onion says:

    As far as superstitions go – we do well with V’s:- Van der Sar, Vidic, Valencia – who else…if only Wesley was Vesley…

  118. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    On a footballing note Valenica missing is a massive blow, om hoping he will be back for Spurs away.

  119. King Eric says:

    NBI. Hello mate. How`s tricks? Thanks a lot mate. Just about to do his last feed which luckily takes him right through till morning. He is two month old today! Oh sound mate you will definitely have to meet us all in April. Bit of a clan gathering now. Not in the Ku Klux type I hasten to add!

  120. redevil_82 says:

    top lad valenica. get well soon ecuadorian prince

  121. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Arsenal to win FACup …………….. :lol:
    If United can’t do it, let’s be having it from UnitedB?! Get in Kieran Richardson! Get in Black Cats!

    Off topic: I enjoy doing a bit of research now an again on lads who are linked with us.
    With Rio and Vidics injuries one always has to consider we will have to go and get another. If only for back up to Smalling/Evans. Not saying I am interested in that particular discussion, but with both of our first choice CFs spending significant time injured you do need to keep an eye open for talent. I recently got sent a link to a compilation on a 24yo french lad Mehdi Benatia, now playing for Udinese. Height 6’2″. You will laugh, but this video might change a few minds. Level tempered, good in transition. Shows him handling Pato and a few others in Serie A.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4K3NlfYJKs

  122. Mikekelly12 says:

    NBI
    Cocky little ewoks…. Haha, made me chuckle that!
    Arsenal, the only thing they develop is their corporate schmoozing!! Haven’t seen a conveyor belt of young talent come through, which goes some way to explaining why they win fuck all!! Peterborough develop better youngsters than Arsenal!!
    King Eric
    A Right little clan developing (with the exception of Deano, he’s massive). We’ll have enough to fill a mini bus soon, get some RoM away days!!

  123. JC says:

    If anyone watched the Everton match Gibbo had an absolute beast of a blasted volley from 20yrds off a cleared corner that skipped twice (and probably left scorch marks on the grass) before somehow finding the legs of the Bpool keeper. Would have been a stunner.

  124. Mikekelly12 says:

    Can anyone tell me what and why that wank tune is played before every game at Chelsea?! Sounds like the theme tune for a fuckin kids programme!

  125. Jonny says:

    I more meant that they buy young players to develop rather than buying expensive players at the peak of their game.

  126. Mikekelly12 says:

    Jonny
    I think the difference is yes they buy young but no, they don’t develop them on the whole.

  127. WillieRedNut says:

    That header Chisora wearing a 1985 United top before the fight started. :lol:

  128. Jonny says:

    Fabregas? Van Persie?

    You can’t say that those players didn’t develop at Arsenal.

  129. Mikekelly12 says:

    Which is why I say on the whole. The press would have people believe that the club churn out player after player.

  130. Jonny says:

    Well the point is that’s what they TRY to do, even if they aren’t always succesful.

    Not just buying success.

  131. Mikekelly12 says:

    An interesting piece on Wenger, including his supposed ability to develop youth. Given from an Arsenal perspective.

    http://www.thefootballnetwork.net/main/s378/st171546.htm

  132. King Eric says:

    Mike. Hello mate. Yeah we will have to get a minibus with no roof so Dean can get his swede out!

    Willie. A United shirt? Oh good grief. Another mug who is gonna embarrass United fans tonight. He has no right even being in the ring with Klitzhko. What’s he done career wise? Are you paying for it? Wouldn’t waste my hard earned on it. Amount of times I have paid for fights and have been dogshit. Last Khan fight was decent though. He got a shock.

  133. King Eric says:

    Is the fight even being televised?

  134. Mikekelly12 says:

    Willie
    Haha, what a nut job. Always reminds me of Sparky that top!

  135. Mikekelly12 says:

    King Eric
    We could use the popemobile for Deano!!

  136. King Eric says:

    Just realised it was on boxnation.

  137. FletchTHEMAN says:

    BreakingNews:
    Suarez planning on coming to OT for the Ajax fight….. er “match”. Right, I meant the Ajax match sure!

    Does this lad have a brain cell left in his body?

  138. WillieRedNut says:

    King Eric – It was free on Boxing nation channel, because of a subscription problem? Didn’t watch it myself though. He lost on points.

  139. denton davey says:

    SmartAlex/Wayne – both @ 15:00 (a conspiracy ?)

    I didn’t get a “new drum for xmas”; in fact, I’ve always been sceptical of SAF’s purchase of Ashley Young. I just never understood why – with Nani and Valencia, backed up by ThreeLungPark and a fair-few talented wide-players in the reserves – he was deemed worthy of such a large investment.

    He’s now 26/27 so he’s unlikely to get much better and has no-re-sale-value, he’s one-footed and somewhat “lightweight”; on the upside, he’s very fast and can whip in a free-kick/corner. Still, i remain a AshleySceptic – he started out OK while the team was playing very well but he just doesn’t seem like there’s “another level” in his locker – and he sure doesn’t look like a player who can carry the team.

    I was puzzled by the transfer in the spring – was he really the guy to help this team come to grips with Barcelona ? – and I remain so nowadays. I’d be happy to be proven wrong and, as you know, I’m willing to admit it when I am proven wrong although it has to be pointed out that I’m not hearing too much these days from the BerbaLovers, am I ?

    Turning to more pleasant subjects – RentBoyz can’t beat Birmingham at home so the CrisisAtTheBridge continues: will JT become the player-manager ? TheArse follow up their awesome Euro adventure by going down in flames again – with Kieran Richardson scoring the winning goal for Sunderland – gotta love that; apparently John O’Shea completely blanketed van Persie, too.

  140. denton davey says:

    King Eric @ 21:12: awesome post. Almost “invincible” argument.

  141. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Denton Davie Right mate United B team did a job on Le Arse and knocked the londoners out of the FACup. Would love to see Sunderland go on and win it since there are so many United lads in the side. Be sweet.

    KingEric. Chisora actually wore an 85 United shirt into the ring. Showed some good heart but outclassed in the end. Guy is a bit of a loose cannon for me. But I guess he does need to sell himself.

  142. FletchTHEMAN says:

    The new kit isn’t bad…… its freaking awful!
    Sadly hoping it was the sleep wear section for the scots support

    Someone should tell the Mirror, parents will save this year….. No one in there proper mind will ask for this…

    http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Parents-slam-Manchester-United-over-new-shirt-profiteering-article867144.html

  143. kev e says:

    actually that article highlighted by salvenue is worth a read… good points well made. and puts forward an argument that SAF is quite clear about what he is looking for from his midfield regardless of the whinging about needing either / or a creative playmaker or midfield enforcer… agreed.

    on a related note and @bobkoh… it’s got to be carrick on the back of my away shirt… understated, quiet, the dogs bollocks!!

  144. slim says:

    Someon’s gotta say it. Kits looked dire for a bit now and that tops the lot

  145. Red Nation says:

    I like the new kit for 2013, its a change and trust me looks better than the images suggest.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-hQ5Bq5bIuM#!

    Im with Denton Davey on Young – he’s a unneccary addition to the wings. He not my cuppa.
    Valencia & Park are 3x times the player he is. Imagine Nani and Young are identical twins. Nani is the angel + Young is the devil but not a “red devil” type.

    Chisora is a disgrace to those affiliated with him. Slapping and spitting . KMT. Unlike Dogleash, Frank Warren disciplined his stupid dog right afterwards in the correct manner.

  146. MG says:

    Let’s throw the spanner in the works

    Love the home kit

    But the away kit being the same? Oh no…

    Ah well goodnight United

    19

  147. King Eric says:

    Denton. Thanks mate.

  148. utd_fc says:

    Read on ESPN’s site that Vida’s supposed to be back before the end of the season? Now I’m not one to believe the regurgitated bullshit that ESPN’s writers come out with but I’m really hoping they got one right this time. Any truth to this lads?

  149. CedarsDevil says:

    Feels weird to be posting at this time, its 4.30 AM here. Got up at 3 and had coffee, cannot sleep because of this frigging storm. The sound of the wind and thunder is driving me insane!

    Read some posts regarding Arsenal here. My take is they are a proper club, I would rate them higher than Chelsea or City any day. As for producing talent I agree with King Eric and Giggs12, it is a myth.

    Liverpool were a proper club too until KK Kenny came along.

  150. CedarsDevil says:

    utd_fc

    The Daily Fail reported the story yesterday as well. If true then its fantastic news

  151. CedarsDevil says:

    So its the dippers v the seagulls later today, how ironic. I am sure KKK and Poyet will enjoy their post match glass of wine, probably have Suarez in there too for some giggles

  152. lununcle says:

    he will be alright real soon…he is a real fighter…maybe 3 weeks…

  153. Indian Devil says:

    Pathetic design the new kit is I must say, well the designer I am sure is a shitty fan as only they can come up with this piece of shit :lol:

    Agree with cedars that I don’t hate Arsenal as much as I hate Chelshit, Bitters, dippers and the leeds scum, the rivalry with them was always great and they are also a club of principals when it come to finances unlike chelshit and shitty.

  154. Majestykizo says:

    Antinio valencia is my muscule man and he has been united best playes so far,so his one month absence will really affect our partern of futbal. I dnt always trust Nani. AV can be usefull on both flanks.

  155. Mikekelly12 says:

    I obviously can’t speak for everyone as I do not and will not ever know their real reasons, however, a lot of people professing their love for Arsenal (ok, not love but respect) do so in the knowledge that they are not a threat to us. It wasn’t so long ago when they, as we did, bought in big name players and challenged us for trophies and people weren’t so complimentary about them. I remember people not having an issue with Chelsk until they became successful (although be it short term). A lot of people don’t mind the spuds, but mark my words, if they started challenging (purely hypothetical) regularly I’m sure an intense dislike for those boys would manifest itself in some.
    On a weird note, I had a dream about George Graham last night! He was cycling with a young child on the back and I nearly ran into him on my bike! He asked me how things were going at school. I could be wrong but it may be a sign that Wenger is on his way out!!

  156. samuel - united WE stand says:

    I cannot believe poyet and so many blinkered fools out there are actually believing that all these uproar was only about a mere handshake and not the fact that suarez is a racist.

    “Goose” poyet seems determined to back his muppet compatriot which clearly shows they’re both two peas in a pod. People like gus poyet and his clans who don’t take matters seriously because they’re evidently ignorants themselves is what is wrong with world.

  157. samuel - united WE stand says:

    It’s just a kit, i don’t get all these emotional outcry like a bitch over it. What’s the issue? are people upset that their pretty patterns aren’t sewn on it?. OH DEARY ME!

  158. Costas says:

    Looking at this thread’s title, I can’t help but wonder when a “Anderson: I am hungry” thread will pop up.

    As for Arsenal, as much as I hated them back in the day, at least it was nice knowing that we had a rival that didn’t buy their success. In that sense, even to this day I’d rather have them as our rivals over Chelsea and City. Unfortunately, I think Wenger’s time has come and gone. I mean, how many of us got a case of deja vu this week? Everytime February and March arrive, Arsenal drop out of every competition within weeks. I am not an expert on their finances, so I don’t know if the cost to build the Emirates is still limiting their transfer funds. But even so, Arsenal can surely do better than Djourou and Squilacci in defence? Wenger’s problem isn’t the roster itself. It’s that he’s as naive in his tactics now as he was 5 years ago. The game has passed him by and unlike Fergie, he is not adapting.

  159. Costas says:

    Speaking of Anderson and other players that mysteriously vanish for months, where’s Michael Owen?

  160. Mikekelly12 says:

    Costas
    He’s on twitter!
    Here’s a great advert for british boxing!

    http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/haye-and-chisora-after-fight-fight

    Fucking two bit punks, what an embarrassment!

  161. smartalex says:

    denton davey

    You may have always been sceptical of Young, but it is only recently that you have beaten him regularly, in the same manner as your previously selected target Berbatov was addressed. Apparently, it is your way. You had one drum whose incessant beat drove many to desperate distraction, now we hear the ominous sounds of another drum being played. Hence my short comment at 15:00

    denton davey – Did you get a new drum for Christmas?

    Of course you’d be happy to be proven wrong about Young. Your snide interjection at 14:56
    “The time has come for Ashley Young to “prove” that he was worth the time/effort/money” was designed to create a platform for you to shred your target. You want to expound verbosely on Ashley’s deficiencies (real or not), and intended to be enabled by the dismayed responses you were hoping to generate. It is your way.

    That won’t change, recent years have proved that categorically. Which is why I make no attempt to change you. Instead, I point out my harkening ears, as your new drum warms up.

    So many wonderful rhythms stem from your nimble fingers that your strange habit of disrupting the melodies of others with turbulent off-kilter drum solos was greeted by me with only a mild shrug and a playful question. Of course, that was enough for you to throw a few more barbs at Young. More to come from you in that regard, no doubt.

  162. LoneStarRed says:

    Tony V. is awesome. NO team intimidates him. He is willing and capable to take on any and all comers. I love watching his warrior mindset on the field. The look of calm self assurance without being cocky is exactly what you want to see before battle. His directness and single minded attack of the opposing box unnerves defenders. Get well soon.

  163. Costas says:

    @Mikekelly

    Ah, good old twitter mate! At least it relaxes us when we wonder if a player has secretly retired and we haven’t heard about it!

  164. King Eric says:

    Red Nation. Frank Warren? He is a fucking cunt mate. Dodgy as they come! Then I suppose when you are dealing with boxer in the East End you have to be.

  165. King Eric says:

    Costas. Hello mate. Anderson: I am hungry. Quality. Superb pal.
    Also spot on about Arsenal falling apart in Feb! Remember Gallas crying on the pitch against Brum in Feb!

    Mike. Hello mate. What a come down. Been up all night. Top Rave. Spot on about the rivalry business.

  166. smartalex says:

    Mikekelly12

    Thanks for that link to an Arsenal fan’s perspective of Wenger. In support of the theories discussed here on Arsenal’s youth development under Wenger, here is an edited excerpt:

    “Wenger’s amazing youth policy? The 1989 league winning team featured Merson, Rocastle, Thomas and Adams, all products of the youth team. Wengers invincible team, on the other hand, featured Ashley Cole. In fact, all Wengers’ trophy winning Arsenal sides comprised almost uniquely purchased players, most for quite large sums of money.

    “Yes, the team now can boast Schzesney, Gibbs, and Wilshere. But it is also the worst Arsenal team for fifteen years. Where are all Wengers’ other fine youth products? Well, they are rattling around the lower divisions, mainly. This summer represented a hugely embarrassing climb down for AW, where long term projects like Denilson, JET, Eboue, Bendnter and Traore were suddenly cut loose, following in the footsteps of Senderos, Merida, Barazite, and Nordveit. You can’t’ argue that Wenger doesn’t give greater EXPOSURE to his youth project, largely through his pioneering approach to the Carling Cup. But does our first team profit from a spellbinding array of youth team products. Any more than Liverpool with Gerard and Carragher or United with Fletcher, Welbeck, Giggs? No, it clearly doesn’t. Do his cut price buys at age 16-20, with the exception of Fabregas, turn into club legends? No, they don’t.

    “Several of our player releases look ill advised, from the refusal to extend Pires’ contract, to letting Toure, Lehmann, Hleb, Flamini, and more recently Gael Clichy walk away. We were always told that someone else better was round the corner. But it has not proved so.”

  167. CedarsDevil says:

    Mike

    Morning pal……. You raise some valid points regarding the rivalry. To me personally its not about having a soft spot for Arsenal, far from it, however as Costas said I would rather be going head to head against them then any of the other so called big clubs. There are a handful of clubs that disgust me, the likes of the dippers, bitters, Leeds and Milwall, Arsenal on the other hand do not. I do not have any lost love for them and would hate them again as I did back in the days of Keown and co…

    King Eric – Looks like I was not the only one without sleep last nigh my friendt, albeit for different reasons!

    Morning all

  168. slim says:

    samuel – united WE stand

    its not just a kit, ya tit :-) . Its United kit and to be fair we’ve had to endure some terrible ones in the past. The AIG one looked like it was designed with Microsoft paint program

  169. CedarsDevil says:

    Really great to have my TV back, just in time to watch my favorite Sunday lunch time program, The Looney Tunes !

  170. CedarsDevil says:

    Mind you, Tom and Jerry still edge it for me as well as Road Runner, that coyote cracks the hell out of me, what a dumb fuck! haha

  171. Costas says:

    @King Eric

    Hi mate. I think this sort of curse begun right after they played in the Ch.League final in 06. The following season, they dropped out of 3 cup competitions within 10 days. Like you said, in 08 Gallas’ tantrum led to a horrible run of form that cost them the League and the Ch.League (and before that, in February they got dumped out of the FA cup and the carling cup by some heavy scorelines). In 09 they got picked apart by United in the Ch.Semis, in 2010 they got outclassed by Barcelona, last year they sensationally fucked up the Carling Cup final and this year they’ve done it again. It’s hard not to have some sympathy for their fans. Not for Piers Morgan though. His reactions after every costly defeat are cure against depression. :)

  172. King Eric says:

    Cedars. Ha. Got a bit of respite though as ruth taking tom out this aft so gonna get my napper down. To be fair he kips from ten till six now usually so no complaints.

    Costas. Spot on.

    “Wengers pioneering in the Youth Cup“? MYTH!! Fergie introduced kids well before he rocked up on these shores.

  173. CedarsDevil says:

    Just read that Gus Poyet feels sad for his friend and fellow country man Suarez… Sighting that the race row with Evra could eventually drive Suarez out of England…… No shit? Good riddance

    King Eric

    Enjoy what I am sure is a much needed nap!

  174. smartalex says:

    Roy Keane on ITV at half time:

    “You’re on about trying to do well for your manager and once again they’re letting him down. This is probably the worst Arsenal team I’ve seen in all my time of watching football. From the first minute when you see five or six of the Arsenal players wearing gloves, you’re talking about a reaction, you’re sending signals to the opposition. I don’t think a footballer should wear gloves when they’re playing a professional football game.”

    “They’ve been sloppy, which led to the goal, there has been no focus to their passing. It’s been slow it’s been sideways, it’s been backwards.”

    Roy takes the gloves off!

  175. smartalex says:

    Gary Neville on Boas:

    “I watched Villas-Boas’s hand movements during a press conference last week and, while I don’t know the guy well, I know what a manager under pressure looks like. He was twitching and shuffling and his statement that the players don’t have to back his project was alarming. A manager does need his players to believe in what he’s doing, which is why either the sceptics have to go – or AVB will have to go himself.

    “By his pronouncements, Villas-Boas must be thinking of making changes quickly, with stars such as Frank Lampard, Didier Drogba, Fernando Torres, Michael Essien, Florent Malouda, Petr Cech and John Terry all at risk. The key question is whether he gets the time to make those changes. Abramovich’s record at Chelsea doesn’t give Villas-Boas much cause for hope and he looks to me like someone swimming against the tide.”

  176. Red Nation says:

    Whats gloves got to do with anything? Keano is a crazy pundit LOL

    Henry wore them
    Ruud van nistlerooy wore them.
    Pires did too.
    Evra does.
    C.Ronaldo + Ronaldinho wear gloves.
    30% of footballers in cold areas of the world wear gloves.

    What next? long socks make you less dedicated.
    Shirts should be tucked in or you put in a scruffy perfromance?
    Long sleeves are distracting, rolling them up takes time off the game.

    I like Keane as a pundit but Neville is 19x better.

  177. smartalex says:

    Keane’s keen understanding applies to all manners of contest.

    Displaying weakness is commonly frowned upon in sport, business, war and other arenas.

  178. samuel - united WE stand says:

    fuck off. Although the kit isn’t my all time favourites and i would like it to be eradicated but The style of a kit in my view does not alter what united stand for, its history or traditions (Which is uge most important). The club run by businessmen whose sole aim is to drain every penny out that they didn’t put in so why are you Suprised that another style kit has been issued to continue this ploy?.

    Clearly united aren’t prepared to change it so what are you gonna do? get over it, it’s life. Weeping like some disgruntled demented walrus ain’t going to change Shit, that bastard malcolm glazer will still be blazing away on huge cigars wherever he is.

  179. samuel - united WE stand says:

    That’s uge typical british mentality from keane there. “Let’s show how macho by playing with flip-flops in a freezing country and that should bring success” – Yeah, all the british national football teams can testify to having success can’t they?. One wonders what wearing gloves or a russian hat has to do with your abilities or non abilities as footballers.

  180. CedarsDevil says:

    Samuel

    You seem upset my ever nervous United loving friend… What’s wrong?

    Do not worry about this whole kit crap, I said before that I would not care if our players played in pantyhose. We are a football club after all and not a fashion house….. It is sadly a state of affairs though

  181. CedarsDevil says:

    I made a promise to my good friend Willie that I will no longer have snide digs or otherwise towards Keane but I do reserve the right to say this

    Robbo>>>>>>>>>>Keane

  182. WillieRedNut says:

    Whats all this soppy bollox about feeling sorry for Arsenal? Fucking sure I Don’t! Fuck em. I’m sure they were gutted when we departed the CL! Also, I remember listening to talkysporty when we lost the CL final in Rome. The vast majority of callers were Arsenal fans. Not city, dippers, or rentboys. All because we spanked them in the semi final. Evra made the comment about men against boys. Anyone who feels sorry for Arsenal is a mug.

  183. WillieRedNut says:

    England haven’t won anything Sammy, because they don’t posses enough quality players. Fuck all to do with gloves, hats and willy warmers! Lol.

  184. CedarsDevil says:

    Willie

    I think your use of the word ‘because’ is racist…… Please offer an apoligy

  185. Red Nation says:

    looks like Chicharito is our weakness.

    http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_sow_experts__17/ept_sports_sow_experts-224832833-1299023310.jpg?ymOnxoEDIMSksPXU

    Damn Gloves, its because of glove wearers like Ronaldo + Rooney we’ve underachieved aswell.

    LOL Keano makes me laugh.
    Samuel the russians are weak, they feel cold in a cold country.

  186. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Cedars – i’m relaxed mate. I’m just trying to make a point that regardless of alterated kits, united will still possess its history and traditions.

  187. Costas says:

    Well personally I am not a fan of changing our kit each season. I’ll wait and see what the new one exactly looks like, but having a new design each season leaves less room for creativity imo. But what can you do? We have a debt to pay.

    As for Keane’s comments, players have every right to wear gloves, lol. I can see where he’s coming from though. When he was in his prime years, seeing an opponent wear gloves because he felt cold was perceived as a sign of weakness. Times have changed since then. Arsenal aren’t the softest side in the world either. Remember our game at the Emirates last month.

  188. WillieRedNut says:

    There was a soft center to Arsenal yesterday. Sunderland bullied them. That will be a stern test for United, when we go up there.

  189. Costas says:

    I’ve thought a lot about that game willie. It’s on the final day of the season. If Sunderland need the points to achieve some type of goal, it will be a very hard game. The ideal scenario would be for us to wrap up the title by then (the E.League final is also 4 days earlier), but I think it will go down to the wire.

  190. WillieRedNut says:

    Costas – It’s the last game of the season? Hope it’s tied up before then.

  191. King Eric says:

    I happen to agree with Keano on this. I fucking hate seeing players in gloves especially on a mild day like yesterday. Would never happen on Keanos watch. Fags.

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