Sir Alex Ferguson has confirmed that Antonio Valencia has flown back to Manchester to receive treatment and will play no part in our tour of the US.
During Ecuador’s Copa América match against Paraguay, Valencia picked up an injury which the team doctor said nearly fractured his ankle again. The initial hopes were that he would just miss one game then be ready to face Brazil, however he hasn’t recovered in time so the club believe Carrington is the best place for him.
“Antonio has gone straight back to Manchester,” said Ferguson. “He got an injury playing in the first game for Ecuador so he is back in Manchester. It is nothing serious but he wasn’t going to be taking part in the rest of Copa America, so there is no point in him coming out here if he is injured. We have the facilities back at Carrington. That is the best place for him.”
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All the best tony v
Get well soon fella, it’d be a shame to not have him for the start of the season, the choice of him, Young and Nani is a great problem.
Gutted for him and us he is crucial player now. Performances at back end of the season were amazing and he returned at the right time for the last push. On the flip side Youngs performance last night showed we have excellent cover now in that position! again exciting times!
The only thing I’m worried about is that this should not affect his tackles. His interview after he came back so strongly from the injury talked about how he was worried about going strong into tackles. But he started going in strongly after a few games of settling in. This might just put him back further with the fear that a serious setback is just one tackle away.
Antonio is a strong character, so I don’t think that will happen, but the worry is still there.
Yeah get well soon Tone. As for the donuts who were questioning why we need Young when we have Nani and Tony, as if those 2 were going to play every minute of the season, well there’s your answer.
Very unlucky, at least we have cover in the wings. Reckon he will come back fresh and determined like last season.
Contrary to reports on Wednesday that suggested United were set to talk with Inter Milan as David Gill was “apparently” in Milan,Ferguson issued a strong rebuttal.
“I keep reading about that”, said Ferguson, to a reporter from ESPN. “There’s absolutely nothing at all to that. First of all, I don’t think Inter Milan are prepared to sell him anyway, but you get conjecture and you get speculation in newspapers every week unfortunately. We have to answer these for some reason. Why? I don’t know, and we have to find a way to answer without insulting a particular club or embarrassing any particular player. We just let it happen. There’s nothing we can do about it.”
Audio file here:
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/100888.html
Tony V will be awesome next year – He takes the knocks and comes back stronger.
I expect he will play right-back more than occasionally next year too.
hope the famous Carrington quacks don’t fuck this one up….
Smartalex – You’ve just made Cedars a happy man!! I still think there’s something going on though……
Rai – I’m sure that CedarsDevil is not surprised by the news, although I can scarcely believe it!
@smartalex and Rai, Through all of this, one thing still strikes me as most important which is that there has never been a denial of interest from either party. Inter have repeatedly said that Sneijder is not for sale but have not really spoken about us. Sir Alex has said that the newspapers are spouting bollox but has never once said that we are not interested in signing Sneijder.
That tells me that there is a lot going on in the background. These deals are going to have numerous roadblocks and may never end up happening in the end, but that doesn’t mean talks are not going on.
I still think there is a lot of executive level talk going on in this deal that will never make the front pages whether a deal is struck or not.
Speedy recovery Tony V
Balaji – I hope it doesn’t drag on for weeks, but as long as the boss gets his man, it’ll be worth the wait. Costas made an interesting point earlier about the type of formation he could fit into….also, if we did get him, who would be best to partner him?
Balaji Sivaraman
Spot on.
With no unified ‘message’ from either side, and clearly nothing definitive from Sneijder either, it’s obvious that everything we’re hearing now essentially amounts to smokescreen. Until progress is made an an announcement is ready, we can expect the same vagueness from Inter and Utd, and the same speculation from the media.
We musn’t forget that overseas transfers are a complex business. Living arrangements / personal terms / the player discussing it with his family etc etc. This isn’t like Phil Jones strolling down the road from Blackburn. Big, international signings take time.
Patience is a virtue.
smartalex. thanks for that and for the rest. THERE YOU GO. we are not signing wes. PERIOD. just have faith in the midfielders we currently have. please do not call barcelona in this because we do not play barcelona every week in England.
@kanchelskis. Precisely.
@Rai, Having followed Sneijder from his Ajax days, he can play the role of the mid-field general and dictating play from the centre of the park as good as anyone else in world football right now. The ideal partners would be Fletcher/Anderson who can do all the legwork leaving him to orchestrate the play. However, this still depends on a traditional, rigid 4-4-2 which is a bit short-sighted. If he comes, there will be a serious change in tactics and formation and I don’t think I’m as qualified as Sir Alex to envision what that is going to be.
@Kanchelskis- well put , it must be mine field trying so sort it out.
Dannysoya – We’ll see. Couldn’t give a fuck about Barca this is about us not them.
Just to be clear, if I hear someone say that spending that much money on Sneijder is a huge gamble and we may not get enough value out of him given his age, I am going to go a rage here.
Jordan Henderson – 16 million
Stewart Downing – 20 million
Andy Carrol – 35 million
Fernando Torres – 50 million
Wesley Sneijder – 35 million
If we made a list of the most-wanted in the world, three of them would be playing for Barcelona and we are linked with the 4th player from that list. We will be getting him for the same price as one Andy Carrol and at about 30% less value than one Fernando Torres.
I honestly don’t care if he puts pen to paper or not because I trust the man doing that job, but if he does sign, it will be a fucking bargain compared to the names I’ve mentioned above.
We won’t sign Sneijder. So Cedars told me. I believe him. Inter don’t want to sell. We move on.
Tony v on the mend.
eveeryone who thought “oh we do not need another winger” can you see how valuable ashley young is now? i wish tonyv quick recovery btw.
Who believes in the words of ferguson if he’s talking about a possible transfer target is defo lost
Balaji – The best is when you hear people say their will be no resale value….Sneijder is 8 months older than Ronaldo ffs
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/934457/manchester-united-bid-for-inter's-wesley-sneijder-in-the-balance?cc=5739
It’s over. Move on.
Willie – If it doesn’t happen it’s fine, we move on. If it does, even better. Either way…i’m happy with the squad we have
http://redflagflyinghigh.com/2011/07/blogs/has-nike-revealed-that-wesley-sneijder-is-a-manchester-united-player
*throws fuel on fire*
kanchelskis – that’s just bullshit. then the nike website also revealed that we signed heitinga
We are in for him.
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/14072011/58/premier-league-fergie-denies-sneijder-interest.html
Willie
Cedars wrote it.
No we’re not!
im standing by Cedars – We are not signing Vesley Schneider.
We have Mr Anderson,3 Lung Park,Cleverley, Ashley Young,Giggs & Mooney for the role as attacking midfielder.
By the way those thinking we are in negotiations over schneider are mistaken. David Gill was in zurich with Moratti & Other Presidents and chief executives in a meeting about euopean blah blah. After this meeting Gill will travel to USA to join United On Tour. I Believe Ferguson when he says its just speculation & is honestly a baseless rumor. Yes Rene Muelensweinsteigersteen has added Coal to the fire but maybe he was asked about Sneijder and he gave a honest opinion on a fellow dutchman.
I believe we are finished in the transfer window but only God Knows the Future and anything can happen. Just don’t be suprised if we don’t sign the inter milan man with 4 years on his contract who also earns £190k+ wages and has a transfer fee of £35M+ with a club that is unwilling to sell and player not desperate to leave a club he only been at for 2 seasons.
Sneijder is a good guy, he will not upset his fans by forcing a transfer or will he express his displeasure with recent managerial turmoils at Inter.
This is the clutching at straws thread. At least the open is on, come on Rory!
Any dream will do.
Willie – I’m just waiting for sachu to come on saying we’re still getting Sanc##z……
Wesley Sneijder:
From Cedars with Love.
excuse my french *cough* my english grammer
Rai – He disappeared, when all the transfer business was concluded. Not sure about that lad…
Looks like Willie has joined the Death Eaters. Bloody Traitor.
It is up to me and Fred to hold the fort till Sneijderman arrives.
Sneijderman Sneijderman does whatever a Sneijder can
Writing liberates the mind
Balaji – Sneijder won’t be coming mate. The numbers, are too much for us. I still hold out hope, we sign someone. That someone though, won’t be Sneijderman.
If we are not signing sneijder, I’m not upset. But we definitely need a defensive mid. Can Jones do that though?
Speaking of Jones, where is he now? Still taking a break? What about de Gea?
@willie, Yeah, I can see where you’re coming from and that was initially why I was averse to the idea of Sneijder, but I will hold out hope on my fave player till the clock turns 00:00 on September 1st, 2011.
read this morning the whole deal is connected to inter signing pastore,apparantly 5 teams want him but the lad wants to stay in italy,the fee being talked about is between 40-45 mill.my guess is inter are holding out for more money than utd want to pay in order to sign pastore.
Fuckloads of people just got MEEEEEERKED
Everything just tabloid and twitter gossip.
Still, can’t help but feel for those who still think we are going to sign him, because after all Fergie always says these things and blablabla
Balaji – Hope springs eternal! Lol.
Boateng leaving Shitty for Bayern after one year. £10m well spent on 16 appearances. God knows how much they’re selling him for.
Another decent player whose career has been fucked around by that club. Hopefully professionals will start to take note of what a disaster joining City can potentially be.
9Wesley Sneijder.
Formation 4-2-1-3:
1de gea;
2rafael/20fabio
5ferdinand/6smalling
15vidic
3evra;
16carrick
24fletcher/8anderson;
9sneijder;
17nani
14chicharito
10rooney
JUST wAIt n’ see…9Wesley Sneijder.
Formation 4-2-1-3:
1de gea;
2rafael/20fabio
5ferdinand/6smalling
15vidic
3evra;
16carrick
24fletcher/8anderson;
9sneijder;
17nani
14chicharito
10rooney
JUST wAIt n’ see…
9Wesley Sneijder.
Formation 4-2-1-3:
1de gea;
2rafael/20fabio
5ferdinand/6smalling
15vidic
3evra;
16carrick
24fletcher/8anderson;
9sneijder;
17nani
14chicharito
10rooney
JUST wAIt n’ see…;
17nani
14chicharito
10rooney
JUST wAIt n’ see…
9Wesley Sneijder.
Formation 4-2-1-3:
1de gea;
2rafael/20fabio
5ferdinand/6smalling
15vidic
3evra;
16carrick
24fletcher/8anderson;
9sneijder;
17nani
14chicharito
10rooney
JUST wAIt n’ see…
Willie – I feared for his sanity when he realised we weren’t getting him…..it’s like he was always about to explode!!!
@kanchelskis hi mate players signing for city only care about one thing otherwise they wouldn’t be there,biggest harem in the world
Double posts! Wtf!
£35m for Sneijder is excessive given his age. Why didnt Utd go for him when Real wanted to sell him? Let’s not forget that he also just had a disappointing season with Inter (granted with injuries) so the money being bandied about makes us seem like suckers. Who’s to say he will reproduce the kind of form we saw at the World Cup. If he doesn’t, it will be another Berba saga all over again. C’mon man, we’re better than this.
Although Modric has expressed interest in joining Chelsea, I’m gutted that SAF didnt make a personal visit to try to turn his head around, If he did, I’m quite sure the lure of MUFC is way greater.
@wayne
The fact that he’s forced a move after just one year, after a lack of opportunities and being played out of position, suggests that he’s not all about the $$$.
Someone obviously convinced him that Shitty was the right place to go. Good on him for realising quickly that it’s not and getting the fk outta there.
Surely we can afford his wages…
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/07/14/2574373/manchester-united-named-as-worlds-most-valuable-sports-team
MancKen – “£35m for Sneijder is excessive given his age”
He’s 8 months older than Ronaldo.
MancKen – “If he doesn’t, it will be another Berba saga all over again”
Think you missed the 2010-2011 season.
@MancKen
Why we didn’t try and get him from Real is a mystery, and the fact that Inter got him for 15m euros really upsets me to this day.
However, £35m, although hefty, isn’t actually appalling in today’s market in the context of
Kaka for £50m
Carroll for £35m
Bent for £18m
Henderson for £20m
Torres for £50m
I actually think the price tag represents reasonable value.
I think Modric may be beyond us now. He’ll either stay or go to Chelsea. They’ll be able to offer him more money, AND the chance to stay in London – plus they’ll ramp up their efforts after the injury to Essien.
@kanchelskis,good point must have been seduced by the money at first then came to his senses,most of the cunts there are like bellamy would rather play in city reserves for 80k a week than take a pay cut,got about 6 or 7 players like that i think,its fucking funny whole bunch of deadbeats.
I don’t get you people adding a player that probably will never join into a united’s first team formation, get real before you get egg on your faces, nothing is guaranteed to happened, he is more likely not to join than he will, he may not be the ideal player for idea despite his quality, he’d cost a bomb for his age, lately he has been besetted with injuries.
All i’m saying is, lets all relax and not get ahead of ourselves.
Yeah no one should get ahead of themselves – it’s better to patronise from afar instead
Rai – Lol.
Sir Alex Ferguson denies Manchester United interest in Wesley Sneijder- http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jul/14/alex-ferguson-manchester-united-wesley-sneijder
given sneijder’s age? he’s 8 MONTHS older than Ronaldo ffs.
now we are after one of the best midfielders in the world and people still moan.
this is ridiculous.
Balaji – He’s still 1/5 on to join United. Slight hope for you.
Ooops didn’t realise smartalex posted a link via ESPN.
I already said, fergie will be giving the younger midfield players a chance if he sees no value, he said he wanted to bring pogba (who by the way can potentially turn into a class all round midfielder) to the US, we have morrison who looks outstanding and then tunnicliffe out on loan, obviously no guarantee that they’ll make it but there chances are very high, i think pogba & morrison can solve this midfield mystery, all they need to do is physically develop stronger for the premier league because technically they’ve got it.
This season they’ll definitely get there chances, possibly in the carling cup e.t.c but they should all knuckle down for now.
It’s a gamble to play young players but its also a massive gamble to lavish money on players that are not guaranteed to adapt, we have to believe in our young players.I already said, fergie will be giving the younger midfield players a chance if he sees no value, he said he wanted to bring pogba (who by the way can potentially turn into a class all round midfielder) to the US, we have morrison who looks outstanding and then tunnicliffe out on loan, obviously no guarantee that they’ll make it but there chances are very high, i think pogba & morrison can solve this midfield mystery, all they need to do is physically develop stronger for the premier league because technically they’ve got it.
This season they’ll definitely get there chances, possibly in the carling cup e.t.c but they should all knuckle down for now.
It’s a gamble to play young players but its also a massive gamble to lavish money on players that are not guaranteed to adapt, we have to believe in our young players.
@ kanchelskis
I must admit I am biased towards Modric having seen him at closer quarters than I have Snejder. Modric’s ability to run at defenses through the middle, dictate play from deep, and the fact that SAF has publicly shown huge admiration, makes me wonder why more isnt being done to convince him that MUFC is the place to be. Maybe Gill has, behind the scenes. Sadly it does seem like Chelsea is his next destination.
@ Rai
Maybe I should have been clearer about Berba. He has certainly come off his best season for UTD, and I won’t deny his vital contributions. However, he is not a vital cog in the team, and is unlikely to be. I’m not doubting his talent either but his inability to stamp his authority on games consistently probably boils down to character. That he doesn’t start all the big games says it all really.
So the point I’m trying to make about Sneijder is this. He’s coming in at an age, and at a price where we expect almost instant delivery. He’s just come off a poor season at Inter, has had his fair share of injuries. My main gripe is the price tag. If we had gotten him directly from Real at the price Inter did, then it’s a different story altogether. Not everyone thrives under the burden of such a huge price tag, Kaka anyone?
Lastly, remember all the bullshit about having no value in market for the last 2 years when Inter got Sneijder on the cheap? For us now pay £35m just takes the piss.
Mine and Cedars’ vindication. Damn it feels good.
agree with Zelh everyone is talking about sneijder’s age fucking joke and how does anyone know about injuries,that’s the risk with any player.as other lads have pointed out 35mill for a world class CM is not expensive.let me think 20mill for henderson,35mill for carol,50mill for trannyboy,fucking city spent 25mill on milner and a whole pile of other shit.
Sneijder is in the top 5 or 6 players in the world and barring injuries has at least 5 or 6 yrs left.it doesn’t matter to me what inter or utd are saying,to many rumors for to long for this not to have truth to it,like i mentioned i’m guessing inter are holding out for 40mill to buy pastore,utd holding firm at 35mill.i’d lay money that’s the stumbling block
TalkSport still saying that despite reports to the contrary, Manchester United are still working HARD to get a deal done for Sneijder.
Looks like they don’t believe Sir Alex!!
your sarcasm don’t make much sense buddy but hey lets skip that lol.
Anyway, on topic, it’s really unfortunate that after everything Valencia has been through this year, his summer turned out as shit as it has. The lad shouldn’t have even gone to the Copa America ffs. I know that he will be itching to join the others, but imo at this point he should be given a vacation for a fortnight. We will be ok even if he misses the start of the season. We’ve got cover on the wings. The big picture is more important and we need a fit Antonio the later in the season.
I hope Tony V is ready to play at the start of the season, we need a fully fit squad to hit the ground running….
As for wee Wes, nice to see the tide turning on RoM and more are coming into the ‘light’
smartalex – Thanks for that link, made my day
Afternoon all true REDS
If I learned something from fergie in recent years then take every word with a pinch of salt.
“I wouldn’t sell that mob a virus.”
“no chance rooney will play against bayern.”
just 2 examples.
Well you truly are clutching on straws mate, the chances of him leaving inter are incredibly small .
You keep banging on about this clubs spending 35-50 mill on players but remember fergie buys based on value, he won’t let veron number two to happen either, the club ain’t run by some oil rich billionaire, we have to cut our clothes according to our sizes.
ending 35-50 mill on players but remember fergie buys based on value, he won’t let veron number two to happen either, the club ain’t run by some oil rich billionaire, we have to cut our clothes according to our sizes.
Costas – yeah its a shame but i think he’ll be fit for the season, however how much missing pre season will impact on his performances, i really do not know.
If 35m for Sneijder isn’t value what the hell is value?
Vesley Sneijder is a Dutchman from Amsterdam.
He played for the famous Ajax football club.
his wife is called Yolande.
Vesley Sneijder goes to the same barbers as Ajen Robben.
Some intervesting facts from WRDTV.
HAHA I knew this would happen. a few stumbling blocks for the Wes transfer and its over?. Calm down lads, these things take time. And this talk of being happy with the squad is bollocks. Happy with what? You fellas must be high on something
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@dannysoya
you mentioned you were happy with the squad but had no qualms letting everybody who doubted A.young how good he looks in a United Shirt. Personally i’d rather we spent the 35 million elsewhere – modric maybe, but lets give credit where it is due Wes Sneijder is a quality player and will do well for the squad. Lets just sit and wait,see what happens before we begin to declare how giddy we are about the squad “the way it already is” lol
sachu = RedScottX
Remember how De Gea deal looked like it might not happen?
One thing that makes me think something may happen with Wes is that like with De Gea, other United players such as G Nev are talking about the player fitting into United. I don’t recall and players talking about Modric.
Given the fact that our players have mentioned him there is clearly something going on, whether it leads to anything, as Ronaldo said “Only God knows, in football anything can happen.”
I also think the last thing SAF would want is Chelsea or City barging in, so a stance of Inter not selling and United not interested or finding no way through makes sense.
I am betting against Ceders and Costas on this one. Machaeda twittered it, GNew spoke it, and he will come.
Just to add to the Sneijder discussion, whether we sign him or we don’t, we still need one more midfielder imo. Unless Fergie plans to use Carrick, Fletch and Ando as his first choices with Gibson, Tom and Giggs as back up.
@Samuel
That’s true. And we still don’t know the extent of his injury. Knowing how fit and how strong Valencia is, I bet that he will be ready for the West Brom game if he wants to. But we must not rush him back. Lets give him a proper rest, the same pre season training the others had and he will be flying by October.
WRDTV a subsidiary of WKRP in cincinnati willie ‘dr fever’ rednut
@ Samuel
Re SAF buying value – Berbatov for 30 million with little re-sale value?
If SAF thinks a player can be good for United over 4/5 years he will invest even if their resale value is not there – noting also the youth players will be ready to come through in a few years but we need to win this year. I think personally Wes is a better buy than Berba as he has delivered for big clubs at the highest level and Berba is third or lower as a striker. I can’t see Wes being out of the top two for his position.
Samuel – united WE stand – the players you have mentioned are 17 to 18 years old, now I like united giving young players a chance, but they are no where near ready to play allot of games Giggs and rooney were he only exceptions at 18, but even the likes of ronaldo scholes neville bros and butt were playing 40% of united’s games lin their first senior season’s at the club. they did not get past 25 games in their first season, united got to invest in the engine room, this also brings on the young players knowing they have experience players who can teach the younger generation. That is why arsenal are a mess, expecting rookie’s to go in and win them a championship.
smartalex – Interesting call
Costas – any ideas on how you and I should celebrate?
Jones, Smalling, Cleverley and Welbeck are set to join the team tomorrow by the way.
@Cedars
Lets wait until it’s official, lol. I have a couple of spare kebabs from the 19th title party.
smartalex – from their writing styles alone, it is clear that sachu and RedScottX are not the same person.
@Costas
i’ve been banging on about the same thing. we’ll need another midfielder Sneijder or not , we need another in there. Gibbo could be on his way out and accounting for injuries and the likes. 2 mids sounds about right to me
CedarsDevil
Keep your eye on the ball. Pride comes before a fall.
Think the deals hit the wall? Think again, it’s not at all.
Right now you’re standing tall, but Sir Alex is yet to call.
I do not wish to appall, or to cause you unfair gall,
but Wesley Sneijder is in the hall.
Costas
2 months old kebabs, err no thanks!
Fred
Good call, its just so hard to tell these days with all the WUMS and trolls that keep invading this place
on a early thread redscotx stated he was redscot and was adding the x because he didn’t give a fuck.anyone seen redscot since redscotx showed up
BOFA, the wizard with words, bloody love the guy.
Willie & Rai
Regardless of whether or not the poster in question posts under different names or not, the bugger used to annoy the hell out of me
Fred – your logic is sound.
I do wonder how sachu managed to pass his Medical degree when he seemed unable ever to punctuate correctly. I also wonder how he managed to spell very difficult words without the use of a spell-checker.
F.I.T.B – Like i said, i’m not against the transfer of sneidjer, he is a quality player but there are real possible downside to buying him and there are no guarantee’s that the club is even interested.
You say they’re 18 and 19 but if they are good enough then they’re old enough, obviously i’m not saying they should play the whole season but with experience, this boys can be diamonds but i agree with you that quality experience need to be drafted in but we need to trust and give young players chances or we never know what they’re capable of but yeah experience is needed at the moment.
More chance him having a medical degree than United signing wee Wes
Correction: Yesterday I claimed that the editor of Goal.com, Carlo Garganese, is an Inter fan. I would just like to correct myself; the accusations I came across last year were that he hates Inter, not supports them! Sorry.
Red onion – i’m not against the transfer, he is quality without a doubt but we all have to understand it will be a gamble and again i reiterate, fergie has said he is not interested so i’m just trying to be realistic here.
Red onion – i’m not against the transfer, he is quality without a doubt but we all have to understand it will be a gamble and again i reiterate, fergie has said he is not interested so i’m just trying to be realistic here.
@NBI, I agree with some of your point, remember ronaldo transfer was pretty much influenced by the player’s comment. Giggs and friends manage to convince Sir Alex on how much the player will affect their game and fill what is lacking at United. I think it might be the same case with Sneijder and there’s no doubt that his ability will raise everyone else’s game. 35 millions and 200k salary is very pricey and risky but I think this time it’ll be worthwhile.
That’s not RedScot.
@Cedars
He took a shine to you mate. Half a stalker there.
Costas – i agree, with young and nani in the team, i suppose we can afford to wait till he is fully fit, can’t blame ecuador for taking him, he is the best player they’ve got.
didn’t think he was willie just what the poster said initially
sir alex said the tony v injury is nothing serious
Willie
Bloody weird, bugger kept copying how other posters addressed each other here, such as ‘hi cedars hope you are well’ or ‘hi cedars mate’ All in lower case mind you!
Just heard from the info man in the forum. United will sign a CM, after the tour. Wages don’t seem to be the problem. Agreeing a fee, is the main problem. Don’t shoot the messenger!
wayne
Our original and hilarious RedScot uses one T at the end of his name…. When this new fella appeared he started posting as RedScott i.e. with a double T at the end… He later added an X as well!
Cedars – Yeah, I thought that was weird as well.
willierednut – who is this bloke? Sounds like a WUM to me.
@Cedars you notice all the small details mate,i wouldn’t remember little things like that but if i remember when redscottx first showed up he did claim to be the original with a changed name didn’t he?
Fred – He’s no wum. Smartalex posts in the forum, he can confirm this. All the lads in there, vouch for him. He’s been posting in the forum for a long time now.
wayne
No he never made that claim my friend, mind you when he first posted and addressed me I did not initially notice the double T and replied with a greeting…. I think King Eric was the first to notice it
When RedScottX first showed up he accepted the many generous welcomes afforded to ‘our returning friend’ without advising us that he wasn’t RedScot. Later, once he had been outed, he claimed that it was a coincidence that his name was similar. He listed other missing posters as friends, yet he was lying, and spelt their names wrong. He started posting immediately after CedarsDevil stated that sachu irritated him, and we never heard from sachu again. We have heard from Sachu, probably a different person, the one who’s every comment only contained hatred for me. Since I stated that fact, Sachu has posted 1 comment, not mentioning me in it for the first and only time.
They’re all lying cunts.
Fred, the bloke that willierednut is referring to is not a WUM.
Further, he doesn’t make wild claims, and he isn’t looking for attention.
He is a quality source, and is likely correct.
More like cunting cunts (Trade marked to King Eric, payment on the way)
Fuck with RoM and you are well and truly fucked! Love this place
Alex Fergusons very seriuos comments during the press conference:
Aiyah, I say oredi not going for that player woh, some more u stupid journos ask,and ask!
U wan me kick u isist?
If he turn up in Carrington ,so what? So I play play with u lor! Of course mah the player goot,he goot he come to us lor, aiyah you all stupid fuckers!
WHERE got 190k ,u think we casino ahh?
110 k only lah ,aiyah ,u want to pay more u donate la !
Dun hack my phone hoh, Then i sue yr arse and ask cameron to kiss u,then u know, taiko!
“Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson says his side will probably not sign Inter Milan player Wesley Sneijder because the Italian club won’t sell him. (00:38)”
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/100967.html
“Manchester United have agreed a £35.2 million club record fee with Inter for the transfer of Wesley Sneijder, Goal.com can reveal”
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/07/14/2574429/manchester-united-and-inter-agree-352m-fee-for-wesley
Take your pick, believe what you like!
@smartalex: brother zulu! has someone pissed u off? come lets do magic ,make his dick drop!
@Cedars: why chop yr toes off? u silly bugger, how is meg going to suck on it?
damm ,me so hungry, me go hunt,kill deer,make roast ,eat ,drink tuak, fart the alphabet, then me come back.
I will be Bak!
@Cedars ok thanks mate my mistake,thought his very first post he’d said something about that and was adding a x and declaring war on the clique,must have dreamt it.
Wilshere ‘You have to be a real man to stick it out at a club like Arsenal’
What the fuck now? Boy only been farted out a few weeks ago and talking big…. Ugly bugger could have walked into any Lord of the Rings movies without any make up…. Bloody hobbit
Willie – Well who is he talking about? Sneijder? Nasri? Tell him to be more specific!
wayne
No you are right my friend, he did declare a war on the so called ‘clique’ but he never claimed to be the original RedScot
Fred – He didn’t say a name. Just that it’s a big name.
@Dave Malaysia – All is good my friend! I’m not at all pissed off. Just bringing wayne up to speed on the curious case of sachu vs RedScottX vs Sachu!
Have a tuak for me!
Fred
I will try to be gentle, well as gentle as I can
No more signings will take place this summer………. Need a hug? I bet Balaji would as well!
Wille & smartalex, thanks for the reassurance – I sincerely hope he’s referring to Sneijder!
Let me just remind people that lawman10 was getting a lot of credit as a top “ITK” on here after he broke the news about the De Gea medical a couple of hours before it was reported elsewhere. Then he made a claim about Nasri’s medical being set to take place on July 5th. Needless to say, neither Nasri or the lawman have been spotted since!
Moral of the story? You win some, you lose some.
@CedarsDevil
Compare that little brainfart of his with what he was saying on Twitter about Modric a few weeks back. Along the lines of “If he’s ambitious and wants to go to a bigger club then you should accept it.”
One from Arsenal’s “special academy” for sure.
Willie – A big name? Sounds like it could be the Dutchman! http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V68DeOxdKAY/TVXsRxDQTlI/AAAAAAAAArw/o7p3Atlxgig/s1600/jan%2Bvenn.jpg
Lawman posted on here for a while now. You get info, you pass it on. Some times it’s true and some times it doesn’t work out.
Fred – That’s a real big name.
Acts of desperation going on here, further more I thought Willie has already defected?
Fred – Sneijder isn’t a big name. He’s too old
Fred
As willierednut said, he is not specifically referring to Sneijder, but rather has consistently named Modric, Nasri and Sneijder since before the window opened. He does not guarantee that we will get one of them, only that we want one of them.
lawman10 may have been ‘getting a lot of credit as a top “ITK” on here’, I didn’t read it that way. Some considered that he was correct once, and wondered if he was ITK. It was not the same as the person willierednut and I were referring to.
In fact, the situation with lawman10 was actually an attempt by some here to identify a wum in the hope of attacking him.
Wake up boys there’s a light at the window
I can here someone knocking on the door
There are voices in the street and the sound of running feet
And they whisper the word…………..
Tell me what the ‘word’ is and you will receive a freshly made lollipop
Here’s a big name that could join us:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ric_Rab%C3%A9sandratana
Cedars – I didn’t defect, I called your bluff. I lead, you follow! he he
You want to join the RedNut faction? We’re a splinter group, who broke away from the “Clique”
Come on Cedars, we can watch the babes walk by and get exclusive interviews on WRDTV, with the ladies?
I was just checking out our 25 man squad. With Fabio, Rafael, Jones, De Gea, Welbeck and Kiko still considered under 21s, our squad is made up of 21 players. So there’s still room for Fergie to satisfy the masses and buy Nasri, Modric, Sneijder and my personal favourite, Djemba Djemba.
Willie – You sly bugger, trying to break up my own clique with Costas, nasty I tell you….
For a while I thought about subscribing to WRDTV now I have second thoughts…. As for watching babes, I am in Lebanon, all I need to do is go to my balcony
Traitor!
Just overheard a bloke in WH Smith telling his mate that:
1. The dippers are ‘a joke club’
2. Tevez is a cunt.
3. United are signing Sneijder.
Obviously he is right on the first two things so no reason to doubt him on the third. So there you have it, from a reliable source. Sneijder will be swinging into action for United next season.
See you next time, true believers.
Costas
Beware and take cover, too many under cover agents here trying to break us up….. Trust no one I tell you NO one
ITK guy? I put more stock in the ITN guy. Trevor Macdonald.
Trevor McDonald says we’re signing Sneijder. It’s on.
Balaji – I still believe we’re signing Sneijder. However, I still believe in Father Christmas, so MOTWYW.
Best name in the british open golf, Bo Van Pelt. Sounds like Sneijder’s agent.
Right Im going to have my say on Scneijder (however you fucking spell it) now. Schneijder is the nearest thing out there to what Paul Scholes was in the early days of his career. Sure hes no Paul Scholes but hes no bad player. He is a vast improvement in what weve got in terms of passing. The continentals as we know are vastly superior in terms of reading a game, passing, controlling a ball than our English counterparts. They are more diciplined and even though they look like theyre out having fun, a few glasses of champagne and a fuck is the high light of their evening. Our boys get fucking shit faced, fuck a prostitute, piss in the street, get escorted home by the police turn up late for work and generally act the complete ignoramous cunt. If I had to have a choice over Schnejeder or Rooney then Schneijdererarr would easily come out on tops. He is a decent player and well worth 35 million schmacker.
Hes diciplined, can pass, follows the managers instructions to the letter, and is a harder fish to find. Playmaking midfielders are far harder to find than Center forwards that drop too deep run around and burn up endless energy and doesnt seem to have the breath and composure in the final third as often as his skill would suggest he should have.
My opinion is that a team should play as a team and once a teams play seems to channel down through a handful of players then a complete overhaul needs to take place. I think thats why players like Scholes, Xavi, Iniesta are so much more revered than players like Gerrard and say Lampard. Its not that there skill set is much higher than that of Gerrard and Lampard and not by any measurable degree in any case but Gerrard and Lampard are their own manager, They are shit for a team game.
I remember the champions league final last and I remember Fergusson shouting instructions to Rooney time and time agaian and also having a touch line bust up of sorts. Mouthing words like “Im still the boss” to him. So please dont complain about 35 million for Schnejederijder even though hes here late in his career. Thats more a matter of bad timing and him moving club too often. It hasnt allowed us to see the very best from him as yet, as every season for him seems to be a bedding in season. Either new team or new manager and system. If he was 23 he would be worth 60 million easy at his current way of playing.
End of confusing rant.
P.S. A big FUCK OFF to all Swedish fans and the Swedish people as a whole (circle jerking bean flicking helmet sucking viking haemaphrodite child raping tsunami tackling shemale taint sniffers, socialist prostitutes cheese eating surrender hide in a cupboard and try not to get noticed monkeys. Big mouthed and no trousered animal rapists).
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/video_audio/100967.html
That’s good enough for me. Time to close the warchest for another year.
for those that still think Sneijder can’t play the CM role.here is what his national team coach has to say about Sneijder’s position.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2011/07/14/2574412/netherlands-coach-bert-van-marwijk-encourages-wesley-sneijder-to-
@ Willie,Cedars,Smartalex and co….
What most of y’all dont realise is that,during free hours at work,most peeps still read posts to know the current states of things with regards to Manchester United…
I thought this whole bull crap about my username is dead and fuckin buried..
Smartalex mentioned sachu..what ties do i have with that poster,guys?
That RedSot is Scottish,am fuckin American..
I thought Scott doesn’t want this shit to rear its head..
Seriously guys,am not gonna go into that with you guys on this wonderful blog..Thanks
Willierednut
July 14, 2011 – 14:02
Fred – He didn’t say a name. Just that it’s a big name.
Big as in big name or big as in Schweinsteiger cos he’s got a big name..???
Never wanted Sneijder anyway. We’ve got Anderson, the £20million man.
RedScottX – don’t have a cow, man! That’s totally wack, bro! I mean, come on, y’all really gonna playa-hate like that? REALLY? Aw hell no! I think y’all need some Haterade or suttin! Yeahhh that’s right, I said it! But yo, listen up and listen real good: da boy Sneijder has got mad skillz. I saw him bend one right into the upper 90 last season – this kid could be our new Becks! That’s real talk!
Seriously though, y’all need to squash this beef yo. Need I remind y’all of a certain 2Pac and Biggie? (Rest in peace, homies.)
Anyway, gotta split. Cowabunga man!
Don’t we already have Sneijder? If not, who was it last night that split the defence for Owen’s 1st after a sick little interchange with Anderson? Couldn’t have been that useless plug Carrick could it? I thought he was supposed rubbish? I thought he had the “creativity” of an air conditioner? Who was it that laid the 2nd on a platter for Macheda? Wasn’t Carrick was it?
Huh, so confusing, I’m stumped here, any help lads?
Rooney > wee Wes * 1000………
Fucking ugly cunt runs his socks off for the team, covers up at left back when needed, your wee Wes will just stand there and wonder what on earth is going on. Let us not put them in the same bracket please, unless we are comparing hot wives!
@ Fred,LOL
Seriously bro,i dont get where all the playa hatin’s poppin from:.
U wanna tell me,man?@ Fred,LOL
Seriously bro,i dont get where all the playa hatin’s poppin from:.
U wanna tell me,man?
If Gills in Italy finalising a deal then where is the photo at the airport or for that matter anywhere in Italy let alone Milan?
Photo someone.
smartalex
Nice link to espns interview with sir alex. Unfortunately what he is rebuffing is “the possible question that was put to him” You dont hear the interviewer asking sir alex the question about Wesly Schneijedi” but he just mentions Inter in his reasoning. He could have been talking about Milito, Cotinho etc etc.
Its something but not conclusive.
Wee Wes to United is a myth that kept RoM going on in the off season……….. NOT gonna happen
Goat – he’s wearing a mask…..covert operation
Fred – Much respect to the homies, pac and big. May they rest in peace.
A moment of silence, then carry on.
Pour out a little liquor.
Cedars
Im not saying Rooney doesnt run his sox off and i commend him for that and have huge respect for those that do do that for the team. BUT Someone in midfield running must keep within his area of play for if someone else was to win back the ball there has to be an outlet for a breakaway pass. When park runs around like a twonk you see him diciplined and keeping to a particular area you dont see him chasing balls all the way to the bylines. More often than not Ive see us retrieve the ball after a period of pressure and then we just hoof it clear because Rooney (when playing as the lone striker) too deep to give the ball. Who would you rather pass the ball out of defence Carrick or Rooney. Rooneys passing generally is pretty poor, he has great passes to his game but his percentage passing under pressure is not all that. Rooney has to be more diciplined. Schneider is diciplined and I watched a reasonable ammount last season to see he does run around and chase for the ball.
Click
Blaaa blaa blaa …… Sneijder…….blah blah blah
Click.phhhhttt
Blah, get it right!
Maybe Fergie is playing mind games by the denial? Who knows really. Guess we’ll see in a week or so…
Hopeful that we sign Sneijder, but won’t be broken hearted if it doesn’t happen. Our CM’s looked great last night. As did the wingers (Young!).
Cedars. Getting a bit boring now, pipe down.
Twatter rumours going mental with Sneijder stories. Personal terms agreed.
FletchTHEMAN says:
Click.phhhhttt
_________________________________________________________________
Trying to light a fart or summat?
Fred…
good to see you talk about 2 pac..
i am an Eminem fan and i love..
but i love nothing more than my UNITED and Sir Alex..
as for sneidjer gate..if he comes i would welcome him with arms open and if he doesnt i dont give a shit..
and homies stop this bloody beef or u guys wanna make diss rap
I got problems now everybody on my blocks got ‘em coz of ROM babes beef..
I’m screaming like those two cops when 2pac shot ‘em
Holding two glocks, I hope your doors got new locks on ‘em..
coz i m coming to make to peace between u folks coz the reds are UNITED and there aint any beef..
UNITED
The Fly – Wash your fuckin mouth out son. Don’t speak to good people like that
I personally cant see Wes coming to OT after the way Fergusson talked IF the full interview can be shown as his rebuffle isnt clear and in a definable context. I will defend Schnejederis play as he is a very good player, in the Scholes mould and would fit in absolutely seemlessly. Would I personally pay 35 million of somebody elses money, YES, would I pay with my money for a 27 year old NO. Do I think hes value for money, YES and NO I dont know what value for money is anymore. Transfers always seem to go up in chunks. The first 1 million transfer, the first 5 million transfer then came the double figure and quickly to 30 million, then the 30 million plus player and then the silly Ronaldo deal, ka-ching!
Anyone having a go at the fee should write down a definitive table of what is a the going rate for the world best player taking into account the different ages and different wages and different wage structure and taxation. Then he must implement a law that stops teams from breaking such limits set within the table. If he cant then maybe there are no guidelines and its all governed by if theres a market theres a price.
Personally I have said before, if it was me I would want to find another Ronaldo or Rooney. Another face we see blossoming here at OT. We do not neccessarily need a world superstar to come to OT because we are not a million miles from winning it all anyway. Our team is excellent as it is. I would like to see the new Ronaldo/Ronaldhino/Raul/Aimar/DelPiero/Rooney/Zidane come into the team. Just that spark of excitement will lift the other players a notch and his play will be just as effective as a world superstar. I would prefer to see Gill sign Coutinho of Inter. He is a much better use of the money.
@sandeep – Eminem is the only thing I love more than United – well, him and Lady Gaga.
Wee Wes = Big Foot just a myth?
Tell me a story daddy, one with monsters and gobbling. Oh and Trolls and ogers. It is a long summer.
OHHHHHH they fucking played last night!!!!!!!!!!!! Fucking AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.
Wow what a team, what a club, what a gaffer!!!! Have watched it 2x’s on the DVR!!!!!!!
Tony V. were he needs to be. Get ready lad.
You love eminem and Gaga more than United. How is that possible. That doesnt make sense, does it?
@GoatinaUnitedShirt
spot on goat. it seems however that the superstar tag is the way we’re going. Personally i would go a different route , but hey what do i know. This bloke would have been gold if we didn’t have to fork out that much money and its a shame really but its what it is right?
He’s Gaga, about Eminem!
its a fuckin rap game all up in this muthafucka..
@ Sandeep,thats whats up..
@ Willie,u aint doing badly yourself..are u in the states?
@ Fred,seems to me like you and I just lit a torch of street vibes all up in the paradise called ROM..
Well,it ain’t bad to mix football with some lyrical swag..
Always thought willie and Smartalex were british,IMHO..
One love,One ROM,Onee United..
Hey – I just happen to think Gaga is a phenomenal artist.
I love M&M’s the green ones make girls horny. I want Eminem mum in 8 miles, what a MILF. In her younger dayz she was on my fantasy footy team, with Haley Beary, Diann Lane, the Pharmacist at Hy-Vee, Kathy Pike and Heather Tesh of the Weather Chanel.
Is RoM on acid today? This is not what I signed up for. Where the fuck is Sneijder?
Howard Nurse on Twitter says…
#Sneijder update shortly #MUFC
oooooooh
*stir*
White Boy Rap Rock is my specialty. A steam of conciseness that grows into a symbiotic mash of a hip hop happening.
There ain’t nothing like the old school!
why didn’t sir alex just say we were not interested just like nasri all these talk just keep getting me confused
Sneijderman, Sneijderman if can’t do it nobody can. Wait a minute their is Fletchanator he will be back. Bigger and stronger.
Zibbie that’s fucking dire, mate. The worst kind of music on the planet.
East-coast or West-coast?
@Wille – I agree, old skool Gaga is the best, but her new stuff is also phenomenal. She’s such a legend.
South coast.
I do not listen to rap, with my friends in band’s I sit in and we free form and for the most part we bring down the house. James Kind a 65 year old blues guitarist calls me the Hillbilly Rapper. heheheheheheh
I’m more of a North coast rapper. A
At 16 in 1977 my first concert was AC/DC and UFO. Must shower now will read before I go.
Have a great day to all Red’s! With Bohn Scott and Michael Schanker wow we!
http://twitter.com/howardnurse This man claims to have a Sneijder update soon. He is our new God. Praise Howard Nurse.
Afternoon, lads. Haven’t posted in awhile due to all the bile that I’ve seen on here recently. But, from a very reliable source (who called Ashley Young, Henderson, and Downing weeks before they were official):
“Sneijder to United look’s like it will happen, no idea of time frame or where the deal is at currently.”
willie, King Eric, et all can confirm that I am not a WUM….
I’ve had confirmation that Manchester United are NOT trying to sign Wesley Sneijder from Inter Milan and never were in for him #MUFC
-Howard Nurse
For the records,i started all this rap shin dig on ROM today..
Not bad for a “troll”..For the records,i started all this rap shin dig on ROM today..
Not bad for a “troll,WUM,C**t,Rag”..
Didn’t Eminem say GaGA got a penis?.
We touch I feel rush, it isn’t much
But its enough to make wonder whats in store for us from this
Gorgeous UNITED and ROM and the god Sir Alex you must be sorcerous,
Don’t play games with UTD and ROM, it will be dangerous if u fuck us over,
Coz if I get burnt, I will show u what its like to be hurt,
For all who those who snub and hate us,
Just promise me you will think of us,
Every time u luk up in the sky and see a red star rising and shining coz
We are UNITED and we rise from the ashes and we make history..
UNITED and Sir Alex, from birth to death and in rebirths..
Sanj – Bloody hell mate. Long time no see. How are you?
@Sanj
http://twitter.com/#!/howardnurse/status/91526422430101504
Yep. Wonderful.
Wow. Sounds pretty definitive from Nurse…
Fergie said we were in for him. Inter don’t want to sell! End off.
@King Eric haha, I’m doing well, mate. How are you? Don’t worry, I’ve been scouting the posts, see you are still fighting the good fight! This Sneijder business is really killing me… didn’t think it would be possible to see a more annoying saga than Fabregas to Barca….
@Cedars
Dont worry mate. No one can break the clique inside the cligue.
Besides, today is our vinducation on the Wes issue. The Nurse has spoken!
Fred that is what Howad’s nurse said what about Cedars nurse?
Those guys don’t know who we’re in for anyway.
Posting some tweets from very reliable (see: correct about previous transfers) sources:
“In my opinion, Nurse is incorrect. #MUFC have been / are in for Sneijder. Difficult to agree a deal like I’ve always said.But Nurse is wrong”
“staff at a certain level are now ‘making preparations’ for the arrival and subsequent promo work of Mr Wesley Sneijder.”
Sanj – Yeah good thanks mate. I dont post as often as I did but still read all the comments. Been some fucking scum on here of late.
Who the fuck is this Howard Nurse?
I’ve had girlfriends less tempremental than this Sneijder pish.
Shit this contrived you’d think we were trying to sign motherfuckin Batman..
for my mate Zibbie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98I85ceICRM
Never wanted that bald-headed, clog-wearing, pot-smoking mercenary cunt anyway. Giggs can play on till he’s 48 anyway.
Sanj – Long time no see mate! There’s more trolls on twitter, spreading shit, that on this blog.
To me the clique is like the G-Spot, a mystery rapped in an enigma and is part of a bigger riddle. When you see 3 of anything pick the one in the middle.
Also, if Nurse’s info is correct, why would Sir Alex have ever said “It’s difficult, as Inter don’t want to sell.” I think he’s completely wrong in my completely uninformed opinion. If his source is a United rep, they will obviously deny it just as Sir Alex has.
I come from the valley of the rising Moon.
Where serpentine highway’s and byways lead me to the town that I call home.
Familiar sights sounds and smells, like my mom mas lasagna and the girls I grew up on.
From the land of Milk and Honey have a blessed day all.
Sneijder not coming to United. We were never in for him.
http://twitter.com/#!/howardnurse
@willie
yes, I know, hope you are well, mate. I know there are tons of idiots on Twitter, but these two guys have been spot on with everything (@Darren_Can, @Fourth_Official). Check their timelines, they aren’t just spreading tosh.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/nosneijder.jpg/
Sanj – Aye know mate. Mark Ogden is usually spot on about United stories. When most of the papers were claiming our deal for Jones was in tatters, he said the lad would still sign for United. He called the Joe Cole transfer last season. We were never in for him, when even I thought we’d sign him. I think he might have broke the Bebe signing as well.
OK, it’s now lead story on BBC Sport that sources at United have denied the whole Sneijder thing.
As much as I was optimistic before, it seems a long way back from here. Don’t know when BBC have hedged their bets so firmly before and ended up being wrong.
Who the fuck are we gona get if not sneijder? We can go into the new season with Carrick and anderson!
I believe I can fly
I believe I can touch the sky
I think about it every night and day
Spread my wings and fly away
So Sneijder signing is no problem
This is ROM Management 2011/2012
keano99 – That’s Carrick, an unfit Anderson and a 38 year old Giggs, thankyouverymuch.
@Sanj, spot on. @Costas lol very funny post. Think of this also, if nothing was happening on Sneijder, He would have at least put out some message on His twitter account to quell the speculation, Rooney, Nasri(when the news first surfaced), And one serie A player, (dont remember His name atm) have used Twitter to quell unnecessary speculation too. That would go a long way to stopping the chaos online. Whether a bid has been made or not, there is interest from #MUFC. @Sanj, spot on. @Costas lol very funny post. Think of this also, if nothing was happening on Sneijder, He would have at least put out some message on His twitter account to quell the speculation, Rooney, Nasri(when the news first surfaced), And one serie A player, (dont remember His name atm) have used Twitter to quell unnecessary speculation too. That would go a long way to stopping the chaos online. Whether a bid has been made or not, there is interest from #MUFC.
keano99 – Err what about Fletcher and Cleverley? Just because we may not get Sneijder doesnt mean there is nobody else out there. Had you heard of Hernandez?
Double comments! How do You stop it
Fred – Unfit Anderson? Did you see the game last night mate?
BBC Sport are generally pretty reliable tbf, they’re not some red top…as someone pointed out above me….they wouldn’t hedge their bets this strongly if they weren’t sure..
Joey Barton is still available.
For every Sherlock their is only one Moratti
This shall end one way or the other – I shall have to get my best on it – where is Watson?
The same BBC that said United bid for Nasri and then the next day, disputed their own story? Lol. No one knows whats going on, bar the clubs involved.
If it doesn’t happen- don’t be surprised if Pogba or Morrison are given more of a chance than we expected. I know they didn’t make the US Tour (I think Morrison’s exclusion may have been for legal reasons tbh)- but Fergie did refer to the Youth Cup winning side in his press conference the other day
King Eric – I didn’t watch that shite. I was going off the boss’s comments about Anderson putting on weight over the summer.
This sneijder saga has even seperate the media, those who say its done and those who say we are not in it. who to believe???????????
I think we’ll get someone, but not wee Wes.
It was said in jest anyway.
Oh aye? Spill the beans, Wille. Who is it, Marvin Martin? Scott Parker?
Bert Troutman.
Who’s he, a fucking fish? FFS. Signing washed-up ex Bitters now, are we? Terrific.
@ Fred
Anderson and Carrick were terrific last night, joint motm honors for me. The first goal was a result of a bout 6 or 7 quick passes in the midfield with ultimately Anderson feeding Carrick onto a streaking Owen for a sweet goal. If I didn’t know better I’d have thought we already had midfielders at this club and not a dog’s breakfast.
Granted, it was New England, which, really, is like beating up on Leeds.
Darren_Can “As three people have pointed out to me, Howard Nurse once believed and ran with a story courtesy of our good friend @TransferUpdate”
Fuck off Nurse, you fucking fatheaded cunt.
Didn’t watch last night’s game, but I was hoping Ando would have lost weight over the summer. I don’t see how there’s room for any more anyway. Bring back Bebe to eat his food.
@Sanj
Long time mate. Good to have you back!
Think im gonna cry ffs
Overrated player anyway.
Costas – You said, there’s a few players joining the squad tomorrow. What about De gea?
Why did I allow myself to get so excited about signing Sneijder, set myself up for a fall fuck it
@willie
According to the Daily Mirror reporter, De Gea will join the squad in Seattle on Sunday.
A player Leeds United cannot afford anymore because they are literally fucked up the ass
And long may that continue.
Fuck me! One crack on Leeds and out pops the genie from the lamp. Bequest my one wish and kill yourself.
Cheers in Advance
When you go to manutd.com’s newspage, there’s a picture of De Rossi just before Young’s picture pops up. Let the rumor mill begin.
Peter Risdale
My Hero
Inter aren’t stupid, they wouldn’t let their best player go for £1.2m. You’d have to be a stupid fuckin team to do that
Lets ask Ashley Cole how overrated Valencia is.
Costas – Cheers mate.
@Costas
Thanks, mate. Been dying without your trusty stats! Bring on the new season and please end this transfer nonsense…
That Leeds fan, must be one lonely bastard.
Lionel Messi spotted in the Bishop Blaize
@Costas
funny you mentioned that cos i thought he’d lost a bit of weight
If no Sneijder then it’s got to be Boa Morte.
My reading of the situation is that the Sneijder deal is OFF, but that this Howard Nurse is a fatheaded cunt who has never played sports in his life, so I’m not really sure how he is qualified to write about it for a living.
@Sanj
Heh, funny you should mention that, because I was just thinking that last night was the 7th consecutive game where we conceded a goal. It’s just a tiny stat, but I am too bored for more.
@slim
I’ll try to have a good look during our next game mate. I was just going by what others said. I hope he’s trimmed down a bit, because his weight was a problem in terms of Ando getting a big run of games. Or even lasting 90 minutes sometimes..
Why are we taking the word of “Howard Nurse” as gospel. Who is this guy? Fuck him, I say Sneijder seal is still on. United just leaked that it wasnt so they can negotiate in peace
That would be deal not seal
Arf!
Well I want to say something about Howard Nurse. Everyone on twitter here will remember who @TransferUpdate was. Well, Howard Nurse once believed and ran a story by that guy
that’s how genuine he is
ha bollocks to him.
Fingers crossed on Wes
Don’t listen to that Howard nurse fella. I know what the craic is. Sneidjers signing will be announced tomorrow. Just feel it in the bones.
Old school gaga the lady was a stripper,let it rain
I’D LIKE TO GIVE A PERSONAL THANK YOU TO THE AUTHOR OF THIS BLOG FOR WRITING THIS ARTICLE–http://thefaithfulmufc.com/2011/07/13/manchester-united-glory-fans-not-so-bad-after-all/
PARTICULARLY AFTER MY RANT EARLIER ON SPARKED SOME GOOD NATURED DEBATE ON HERE. WE ARE OF THE SAME MIND IN THAT ASPECT.
Some parts i particularly appreciated:
I’ve spoken with people all over the world claiming to support United, particularly since the creation of my United forum, and I cannot say that all these people are ‘glory fans’. Whatever their initial reasons were for supporting United, the way they live and breathe the club, this one I’ve inherited supporting, is enough to convince me.
So United fans will always be tagged ‘glory supporters’ if they’re found outside of Manchester, and if they speak with a southern accent, there is no saving them. However, what is really important is how someone supports their team, not why. But the chances of that opinion being adopted by the masses is slim to none and whoever follows the team at the top, whatever the reasons behind their support, will be branded a ‘glory supporter’, sadly.
Support shouldn’t be dictated by your post code, rather your love and commitment to the club. The sooner people realise this, the better.
Fuck this, I’m going to listen to some Gaga.
Sneijder was injured in Inter’s friendly today.
A pretty informative piece of writing from Mark Ogden traveling with the team on the US tour.
Bit for the WS is coming camp, bit for the WS can stay in Italy camp, bit of news about Wayne.
Interesting that he thinks the wage demands problem is solved?! Mark usually is level headed about these things.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8635937/Manchester-United-believe-Inter-Milan-president-Massimo-Moratti-holds-the-key-to-35m-Wesley-Sneijder-deal.html
Still, you can put me down with Cedars as SneijderSKEPTICS.
Much as I rate Valencia, I think starting the season with Nani on the right, Young on the left, sees us all right. Watching Young last night against the septics was great. He’s got enough skill, he’s strong and fast like an ox on a skateboard and his delivery is great. He’s a powerful weapon for us going up that wing now.
Have to say I really love United’s use of powerful wingers. Fast and tricky wingers are a fine and established tradition and obviously we all remember Best and Ronaldo and the young Giggs and so on, but Valencia and Young are bruisers. They bring a physicality to their play that will really be a problem for a lot of lightly-built attack-minded wingbacks. An old school wingback like Nev or Irwin would be able to handle guys like these, but the likes of Ashley Cole and Clichy, they can’t compete with their strength and they get beat.
Unless City and Chelsea spend some real money fast this season is in danger of being a no-contest. Especially with Essien just crocked for six months and Tevez digging his escape tunnel.
Interesting fact. Some months ago Fergie vehemently denied a deal for De Gea but we later signed him. that gives me hope i guess
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12040_6868527,00.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/alex-ferguson-denies-manchester-united-have-agreed-deal-for-david-de-gea-2267110.html
Sneijder just got fucked!!!!
He’s injured…
Glass balls,i assume.
That’s why the deals off.
“digging his escape tunnel” hahahahahaha
Price just went down 10 mill
Oh dear, you couldn’t make it up!
We don’t want another Hargreaves. Fuck off slaphead.
That’s some tunnel. Starts Manchester, ends in Argentina!
I’m not buying the denial from the club. It seems fairly clear we have been interested in him and there was some move that’s been made as even SAF seemed to suggest at least an enquiry was made.
Since the Glazers took over United have used the shroud that being a private company allows them so i think that is all we are seeing here and either the deals done or it’s still being hashed out (or maybe it’s even a move to keep Inter honest). Remember even with signings like Berbatov and De Gea bids were officially denied at the time. Even some deals that didn’t go through were denied initially and only confirmed when the talks had broken down
lets get Tiger Woods to fill the ‘hole’…he seems good at it
REDHOUND – the irony is, I wondor how so many liverpool fans in their 40s became liverpool fans, they say football did not start in the 90′s for united fans. I wonder if football started in the 70′s for the vile scousers
I told you transfer fiends that the sneijder interest was concocted by the media who’d love to see him replace our legend.
Eurgh Fred serious LadyBoy Gaga is Hideous – Gaga Ooo Lala !
You sir need to throw away your Gaga CD’s and get some Jedward in yo Life 
What this twitter source crap going on here? Im going to make a Twatter now and make up BS rumours.
First Tweets: – Kaka Welcomes Interest from Arsenal -
- Tottenham make £14m Bid for Bayern Munich striker Mario Gomez
- Real Madrid Left back Marcelo hands in transfer request immedietely after £27m Coentrao signing -
- Samir Nasri has agreed a free transfer to Barcelona next summer -
- Arshavin & Pavlychenko posied for Russia Return to Zenit St Petersburg and Lokomotiv Moscow -
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Fred. You were wanking over the Sneijder deal, now the boss is trying to disguise it you’re saying you never rated him anyway. You were probably like this during the Nasri rumours.
This saga has dragged on so long I’ve actually learned how to spell his name ffs!!!
First it was Nasri sending RoM a bit funny, but he’s either a greedy so and so, or he’s a grade A bottle job for jumping ship on his Club like they’re facing relegation. Personally? Don’t want that at the Club, I’ll rather have Ashely “where do I sign?” Young thank you very much. Really happy we signed him. Much better than Nasri, and could’ve started a bidding war leaving the villains but didn’t. Classy.
Then theres Sneijder. Brilliant player but we shouldn’t pay Inters fee OR his wages. I don’t care how much Liverpool paid for Carroll, I know I take the piss but Carroll’s actually half decent and on the right side of 23. When his 5 year contract ends he’ll be Sneijder’s age NOW ffs, so plus the English premium its not actually that bad a deal. I rate Sneijder but 35M? We may as well tap up Schweinsteiger.
Fantasy football aside I’d rather just start with what we’ve got. Always said that. We’ve done brilliantly getting Jones, De Gea and Young. Our midfield was strong enough to win us a 19th and get us to a 3rd European final in 4 years. Plus, look at the wealth of talent around the world. I’d be happy if we brought 2 promising players like we did with Nani and Ando or the Twins. Im sure Alex has his eye on a million options. Thats probably what will happen, and if so… DON’T WRITE EM OFF FFS!!!
Ravel Morrison anyone?
Lmao @ Gaga Ooo Lala
Christ on a moped read it all now
To TheFly,
No, I wasn’t. Now fuck off.
Yours sincerely, Fred
WHAT ??? – I totally disagree, the midfield was not strong enough to win title no 19, it was the defence and at times our attack. Reason, the way united got overrun away from home to teams such has west ham despite winning 4 2, wolves and sunderland away, and the lack of verity when united play a 433, this is food for thought on the need of a quality CM. The midfield has not been strengthened since 2007, that far to long for a club like united.
- with hargreaves and scholes have left the club, gibson will be following the exit door it looks like
- fletcher seems to be heading down the hargreaves route
- carrick seems to have gone backwards since 2009,
- and there is a big chance anderson will pick up a few injury’s, and he will miss overall possibly 3 or 4 months, has he always does.
So no, united have to sign a midfielder, maybe not scneijder but a midfielder
@ Red Hound – Are you the same fella with the rant the other day?
I think Morrison will feature at some point next season. Now that he’s beaten his case he just needs to keep his head down till January, so maybe after Crimbo? Im not reading too much into absences from the tour. Giggs was the first Kid and he’s still standing as the last, so im sure Alex will start bringing in the new guard this season. Cleverley is the one I’ve got my eye on. Gibson as well, if he manages to stick around. Younger players step up when big players leave. Not long now, we’ll soon find out.
I wont write united off no one can, but let us not underestimate the huge fact, united have to sign a CM, especially after the way barca and arsenal exposed this weakness
WHAT ??? our midfield didnt win us the 19th title. you will find that our defence and strikers did.
what ??? – Gibson has no future at this club. Doesn’t even feature on the tour.
Well done Macheda good finishes, Park move and finish was excellent.
Valencia- need you back soon.
They’re will be no midfield signing I hear from my mate, he’s a good source in the football world.
Well done Macheda good finishes, Park move and finish was excellent.
Valencia- need you back soon.
They’re will be no midfield signing I hear from my mate, he’s a good source in the football world.
@WHAT ??? yes iam. was letting off a little steam
@captaink9
tell ur mate i said he should suck a penis.
Oh shit, son!
fitb – Hello mate how are you? Have to disagree on a couple of things. I do think we need another midfielder BUT why is Fletch heading the same way as Hargreaves? He has had a nasty virus not tendonitis. Also Carrick the last 4 5 months of the season and into last night has been excellent in that role.
captaink9 – Yeah course he is pal, course he is.
@ Floyd are u offering I’ll let him know. He likes knobs
@FITB – Easy mate
Course our midfield was strong enough to win the league. Park was brilliant whenever he played, and think back on how many crucial assists Giggs provided from the middle. Also, when you say our defence saved us, was Carrick not a huge role in that then? Our midfield ain’t as bad as people make out. Jesus.
More to the point, Fletcher was absent, and from the sounds of things the only reason he didn’t go to America was to get ready for the ELP. He will be like a new signing. Also, Anderson didn’t feature prominently till the end of the season, and just turning 23 now, look back at his performances in April/May. Im tipping him to have a brilliant season now that the Prince has vacated the throne.Then theres Cleverley, back after a decent loan spell with it all to prove.
So thats one new player in Cleverley, and two players back to fitness. Hargo, great player, but he’s been lost since forever, we’ve only lost Scholes since last season, and with those three players I’ve mentioned we’re actually stronger than last year in the middle. Plus, when Tonys fit im looking forward to seeing Alex try Young in the middle where he does the business for England. Same spot everybody wanted Nasri in. Christ, last time Nani played centrally was against Bayern and he was electric, maybe Young on the left signals Nani behind Rooney. Who knows mate? I just can’t be asked with all this transfer bollocks like our midfield is shocking. Like I just said in the last post – if we bring in more midfielders great, but if we don’t I ain’t slitting my wrists pal. We’re United, we just get on with it with what we’ve got, and what we’ve got is a bloody good squad. Fletcher, Ando and Cleverley… and if he can hang on, Gibson. Plus Park, Giggs, Carrick and either Nani or Young? Doesn’t sound that bad to me mate!
mahadev – Nonsense. The whole fucking squad won us the nineteenth including the midfield.
captaink9 – we know he does, he hangs out with you!
WHAT?? Hello mate, hope you are well. Some good posts from you as usual.
Fuck me we have a lot of well connected pundits on rom,amazing really when the club doesn’t even tell the players what the fuck is going on
@fergie is the boss
Is that really you FITB ?
“the way Arsenal exposed this weakness” ? hmmmmmmm
when was this if i may ask ?
Has this Captain K9 just popped up?
@ Redhound – no worries, just asking.
@ mahadev – right so it wasn’t Giggs securing all those vital assists? or Park scoring against Arsenal and Chelsea? And like I said to FITB, are you aware that Carricks midfield role is to protect the back four and he does it very well? I think you’ll find your not giving credit where its due.
@ Zelh, im not taking the line up of the Yank tour too seriously mate. Its not the be all and end all of what happens once they get back. If Gibson goes so be it, but with the Prince gone I think he should should have another shot. He’s only 23. People on here talk like he’s 30 and needs to be moved on. If Fletcher was moved on at 23 we would’ve missed his best years.
slim – the away game against arsenal, we could not get the ball off them
He means in May, mate. Aaron Ramsey, 1-0 Arsenal (No Fabregas)
I hope the team doesn’t go to fucking Yankeeland again next summer. Give us a break, please!
Blah!
Exactly Wayne so to all those fuckers that think they know all, no one is signed until he’s sitting beside Gill or Sir., ball shitting knob jockeys on here yeoooooo………..
@King Eric, all good Bruv, yourself? Glad to get some football in the system. We’re looking good in the States, Kiko looking sharp, Young and Ando etc. So far so good mate.
Whatever happened to that story about us literally having a talent factory in South America or something like that? Douglas Coasta was in the mix but the trail died off somewhere. Adryan is the only link from those rain forests right now.
Otherwise man for man, apart from the central midfield, we are better than Barcelona and am looking forward to that rematch this month. i hope Ferguson starts Smalling in Left-back and hopefully a midfield of Sneijder and Fletcher.
MG Holmes …I am here everyday just laughing at some on here….real summer wankfest over Sneijder…
I think I will let SAF get on with it ….he aint done bad so far methinks…. will reserve judgement on the Sneijder Sanction till he walks out of the tunnel at OT….
I rate Ridsdale too ….took the scum to where the bastards deserve ….hahahaha
Sneijder wouldn’t know a tackle if it dressed itself up to look like Lady Gaga, and his defensive skills are very weak and have been, going as far back as his days with Ajax. He is strictly an attacking player who can play the role of AMF like nobody else and who can also slot right or left if need be. That makes him ideal for our attacking needs but still, United need to find a box to box guy. Thank goodness we stopped looking at Nasri because he has even less defensive skill than Sneijder. We should seriously test Spurs about Modric or go out and look for another defensive-minded midfielder.
I also have a feeling Anderson will stake his claim among the best midfielders in the world (yeah laugh). Every player needs consistency in the team and that means a good run of games which Anderson has never had. A prime example is Liverpool’s Lucas .He is far inferior to Anderson talent-wise but a run of games has made him a regular both for club and country. And Fletcher in his earlier days! Easily the worst player I had ever seen, almost as bad as Djemba Djemba. People used to think SAF was probably a very close relation of his and thats why he was at United. A good run of games, and SAF blamed our loss to Barca in Rome on his absence. Alex Song, Nuri Sahin, Lassana Diarra, Bastian Schweinsteiger, hell our very own Luis Nani, are all players who grew due to consistent game time, not coming on for 15 minutes, or a game every month.
Also this will be the first time since Anderson arrived that he will have a full pre-season with us. In 2007 he was injured, in 2008 he had that Olympic Games thingy, in 2009 he didn’t join until we left Asia, and last season he was out injured again. Hope this will help the lad.
Must be the first time in years that Rio also gets a full pre-season!
HopeTony V all back to full health before seasons start dont have much luck on the old injury front
done really well on his return 4 us last season
glad 2 see Kiko bagging last nite hope he can push on always gonna love that fucker after that Villa goal
WHAT ??? – not the wide positions, it is the central position. That is where united have come up short away from home, there is a lack of players in the middle who can keep and pass the ball at will and get the wingers into play, and even the lack of aggression that is where fletcher is missed. And there is a massive chance he may not be fit for the start of the season, and if not, fuck knows when he will get fit and hit the ground running, cleverly is a player where does he play? what is his best position? Carrick again played good but he is picking up allot of injury’s for a year and a half now, giggs like I say his personal life and he is another year older, we are asking allot. Now is the time to fill the scholes gap, because next year if we do not replace scholes in some shape or form, we will need to spend double replacing scholes and giggs not like for like, but still replacing their quality’s.
The Sneijder Sanction….sounds like a good story for Cyril Sneer
*fzzt*
FITB – That was a prelude to the Barcelona game. Couldn’t get the ball.And no, our midfield isn’t shit. It does need strengthening though. It’s a numbers game and we need one more. Gibson will probably leave. Tom is unproven at this level. that leaves us with Carrick, Anderson and Fletcher. You’re then depending on none of those players getting suspensions, loss of form and most of all, fucking injured. So yes, I’m hoping for a CM.
I have happened upon some information pertaining to a certain dutch midfielder, the same dutch midfielder most of this blog has been tapping up for the last week.
HE’S GOING NOWHERE YOU ASSHOLES.
Man for man we’re better than Barca (except midfield!)
Please don’t start this deluded shit again. We got taught a lesson at Wembley, as admitted by Sir Alex and Paul Scholes. After the third goal went in I was just hoping they didn’t get any more.
If only there was some way we could bypass the midfield entirely, seeing as it’s our only weakness against them. Perhaps Rio and Vidic could just hoof the ball over those midgets’ heads straight up to Rooney and Hernandez? Quality.
REDHOUND – you are right, pound for pound united are better at the back and more quality going forward, but at the end of the day the midfield decides who wins and losses. Rooney hernandez valencia VDS ferdinand vidic evra were useless, when the CM is struggling
captaink9 + RedMegleeker
funny how they both pop up one after another
@Fred
my exact thought.
You ain’t nothing but a hound dog!
willierednut- I agree its not shit, but for united standards its not good enough overall in terms of strength in depth, when the united midfield can be very injury prone, and that is one of my main worry’s, the overall physical condition we pick up allot of injury’s. Yes in seasons 1998/99, we only had keane scholes and butt, and seasons 2006/07 seasons we had only scholes carrick and fletcher to choose from. So it shows we need another in there, even maybe a good one, but for me the dream would be a top class one
FITB – exactly
@fergie is the boss
that was just one game, i didn’t see anyone panicking when we failed to pick up maximum points against West Brom or other games we drew or lost. Your point is valid though. And this is question i’ve been asking my self and fellow ROMers. Is it the system that needs fixing or the personnel ? My two pence worth without going on about what “quality player” to buy is that both need serious looking into. When something goes tits up in an organisation, some serious brainstorming is done to get to the root of the problem. Football may be different than other works of life but the similarities are there and i don’t think enough thought has been put into this “problem”
Its almost as it we’re thinking “shit, we lost another European final” we need to splash the cash. I’m secretly hoping Fergie was as serious as cancer when he said we aren’t going in for Sneidjer. That can only mean he’s thinking outside the box, way way outside the box and that can only be a good thing
@ tony dee & Floyd
Go fuck.
captaink9 / RedMegleeker….wonder which one is more despised on ROM
prick…. grow up you fucking twat and disappear up your own ass
LOL thinking way, way outside the box? Like what, fielding two goalkeepers?
@Fred, a midfield of Xavi and Iniesta does certain things to an opponent team. I couldnt believe the start we had to that game and for a moment i knew we were going to win the game,everyone was pressing upfront and all that. However when the barca midfield trio started to actually string together a few passes to each other, i noticed we started to drop back, we started(i assume) to fear Messi getting the ball, Rooney became a midfielder and suddenly Chicharito was rendered void. The Barca players just increased in confidence knowing they could pass around for all the time they wanted knwing we would be kept at bay in defence. All am saying is that a great midfield and attack will make your defence and goalkeeepers look like the great wall of China because your opponent will fear to venture out.
Am probably grasping at straws here and as Rooney says we should let go of that game and look forward but it doesn’t hurt to think about what what went wrong that night
we’re not better than Barcelona in any shape or form. Do i love United more? You bet your nuts i do, hell i can’t stand them. But credit where it is due, at the moment they are better.
damn you for making me say that, just tasted my own puke as it threatened to come up.
Go fuck what?
slim – if you read my posts I bitched all season long, for the need of a CM. Heck we have needed one since the crushing blow of the barca defeat in 2009. You look at guys on here who also highlighted this glaring weakness, the likes of willierednut, Costas, etc etc many have said the midfield needs a body or 2. I like carrick fletcher and anderson, but you need variety and a bit more strength in depth, when united have also sold oshea who would be an alternative in CM, you are looking through the bear bones of a midfield that is prone to injurys
IMHO our squad is good enough as it is to win the league but without a world class central midfielder we can not expect to beat barcelona again. THAT is the benchmark that has been set.
my choice would be sneijder
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First on my list is Wesley Sneijder. Then Boa Morte.
Whether Sneijder comes or not, it won’t make a blind bit of difference if we come up against Barca. I’ve said this a few times
We didn’t lose that final coz of a lack of creativity. Fergie packed his team with creative, goal creating players (2 up front, Giggsy in centre mid)- yet it didn’t matter. We lost coz we missed bite, energy and the ability to win the ball back.
And no, that’s not me saying we need to sign a De Rossi or something- coz we’ve already got 2 players who give us bite, energy and ball winning- Fletcher and Anderson. Just a shame they didn’t play.
Overall last season- yes we missed creativity in the middle of the park (except for when Giggsy played, but he’s 38!)- but that wasn’t the problem vs Barca.
@ Slim…
u make a very sensible point, i will have to agree,
we should not jump the ship of changing personnel..
a serious thought has to be given to the system we play as well…
one has agree barca have bee having their best footballing cycle, that doesnt mean we should sign
the best players in the world thinking that we will catch barca or reach the lite in a overnight, then there wont be difference between us or the virus or the dirty blue half of manchester..
however one point i would like to note is that,
hands down we have been awful when it comes to attacking play or ball posession in most of the away games last season..
whether it was just one season off or more is yet to be seen..
IMO, last season our opponents feared us less in the away games..it was due to the goals and leads we conceded..but u can straightway link that to our ball posession and control in the midfield..
so ur debate makes a good sense to me..
i m sure Sir Alex knows it better than any of us here, so i m not worried abour wesley or anybody..
UNITED..
@REDHOUND
I think thats the sticking point. The first time we played them in the final and lost, every one said lets forget about it and move on, we lost again and its now “well we don’t play them every week, lets move on”. Even Rio echoed this when he said before the game that he hadn’t watched the game because it was to painful. My heart sank when i read that and the feeling of dread started to creep up and reached an amazing crescendo when Berbatov wasn’t even named on the bench.
@ united daft
That’s a solid post right there mate….couldnt agree more…Ando is the Neymar of today when we bought him(i mean how people are excited about a young talent)..ITs jus that everything hasnt clicked right for him…but ts gonna come together hopefully this season
I think the addition of Ashley Young to the squad means that even more of our creativity this year will be coming from the wings. We’ll hopefully be able to rotate Nani, Young and Valencia to keep them all fresh and on top form throughout the season. Last year there was a time when Nani and Giggs were our only wingers, and the latter isn’t best used on the wing anymore.
With our wings remaining fresh, deadly and creative throughout the year we just need to add steel to the middle to ensure we’re not overrun. Our midfield needs to be able to actually win the ball away from home and get it on to our more attacking players. The return of Fletcher will help with this considerably (and he can chip in with the assits too – 7 of them in the league in 09/10 and a place in the premiership best XI) but with the departure of Gibson almost inevitable after his exclusion from the pre-season tour, we need more numbers.
I’ve got my fingers crossed for a shock swoop for SCOTT PARKER!
Now, before you castrate me, bear in mind how good he was for a bloody awful team last term, the fact he can add steel to the midfield and a box-to-box style that we sorely need from more than one player than Fletcher. I know he’s not young, but that could be a good thing as he can provide two good years before giving way to the young talents coming through. A stop-gap, perhaps, but a talented one and one who I think could improve us for next season.
Plus Anderson will come good this year, I can feel it! So we could have a core midfield 4 of Anderson, Fletcher, Carrick and Parker, with support roles from Giggs and Cleverly and even Park and Jones if need be. That’d do for me, and we could always sneak Nasri on a free next year =P
can somebody seal a deal for Joey Barton..
@REDHOUND – “@Fred, a midfield of Xavi and Iniesta does certain things to an opponent team.”
Yeah, normally wipes the fucking floor with them! Don’t forget Busquets in there and Messi dropping deep to link up… oooff! Liquid football.
(I realise I’ve changed my tune since yesterday’s “I’m tired of these Barca shitheads and their annoying passing”, but I love playing devil’s advocate.)
@sandeep – Barton can be our Xavi – I mean that sincerely.
Better team won by far in the final..
It was a lesson, be honest with yourself
Stop stealing my suggestion of joey Barton!
@sandeep1878 says:
can somebody seal a deal for Joey Barton..
would willingly seal a fucking coffin for the cunt….. nasty horrible bastard
yup hope we sign our new xavi after we lost the Iniesta to Liverpool who was personally driven by the cunt legend of anfield…
Barton is a top player, who just happens to be a top cunt
@slim – you’ve got a point mate, about Alex thinking outside the box. Our midfield is only a problem if we’re talking about Barca, and thats because our current system/personnel doesn’t have an answer for their particular brand of football. As far as the answer goes, only Alex has that, but I’d personally be happier if we didn’t spend 35M on Sneijder trying to play catch up, even if that means our midfield isn’t too far removed from last season. The squad got stick at the start of 2009/10 but I was happy to see us grind out results with what we had and we nearly did it. Last season we were written off, until Berbatov won golden boot and Hernandez and Nani proved their critics wrong. This season I’ll be happy to continue in similar vein while Alex develops another Champions League winning team. If we do get another midfielder, I’d probably be happier if its a player I’ve never heard of.
@fergie is the boss
mate, i’ve been reading your posts on this blog for at least a year now. Your comments and those you mentined kept me sane on long boring nights in rainy wales. Sorry to welsh posters. Loved the place sometimes but damn it could be rough some times.
I’m with you man, i’d go as far as saying i’ve been calling for a midfield change even before that. So you can imagine what is was like during the Euphoria of Ronaldo. I guess the message behind my cryptic posts these last few months is i’m actually surprised we’re in for this transfer – sneidjer. I’ll put it out now so remove doubt : I want us to spend. But i can’t shake the feeling the club is just realizing the magnitude of what they have to sort out. It sounds crazy i know. I mean the noise has been going round about Giggsy, Nev and Scholes. But i don’t think anyone in their wildest dreams thought the season would end the manner it did when we lost to divalona and that shit has got to hit home hard.
What are we going to do? Spend 35m on a player and build from there? Get in one or two youth players with a couple of signings in the middle ? Who knows, SAF hasn’t really be vocal or forthcoming about it i’m not expecting him to now. Those interview probably remind him of going to the dentist anyway.
slim – I do think we have more potential than barca, lets ook at the 2 lineups hate to compare the 2 lineups again, but we have a hell of allot more talent, it is xavi iniesta and messi, these 3 make barca better than they are actually are.
Barca vs united wembley 2011 how many would get into the 2 teams
VDS
fabio
ferdinand
vidic
evra
carrick
xavi
iniesta
messi
hernandez
rooney
those 3 are the only 3, has valdes alves pique mascherano abidal busquetes villa pedro would not get intot he united 11
WHAT??
agree with you 100 percent
slim – I was not on ROM during the crazy time of the ronaldo saga years 08/09, so I guess there were assholes on the site. Sorry if I go a little bit mad sometimes, wales can be a brutel place hate it, I live near the swansea area so I will be trying my best to get an away ticket for that game, it would be awesome to meet some ROM readers in the away end
i should also point out that it probably doesn’t help bleating on about Barcelona, for me the opponent was irrelevent. I’d still be making these points if we played as we did against another European team. Take your pick – Bayern, Inter, Madrid – that would SUCK big time. You thought Ronaldo winking at the world Cup when Rooney got sent off, people would have been calling for his head Al- Qaeda style. The truth was pasted in front of us, i’m just curious to see how we’re going to deal with it
Are FITB and Slim the same person?
What is going on here? 
The issue isn’t really losing to Barcelona at Wembley. Their midfield is world class. And they showed that night. the bigger issue for me, was the way our CM got over run at times away from home in the league. The likes of Villa, Sunderland and West Brom running our lads ragged was disturbing. That should not be happening imo.
Sandeep @ 19:56 agreed mate.
Sparks – your assessment with the final is exactly how I saw it.
Its easy to talk shit in hindsight, but in hindsight… Ando should have started the match, with the sole task of destroying everything Barca created. As much as the boy can pass and carry the ball, people over look his ability to win it back. Hernandez is a brilliant player, he was the wrong tool for the job, and perhaps Park and Ando destroying everything in midfield with Rooney up front on is own would have been better? Still, even though we lost I don’t think it reflects that badly on us per se. We are a proud club, and thats two finals we’ve attempted to play proper football against a team like Barca. Im confident it would have been a closer match if we just packed the midfield and found Rooney on the counter, but who knows? Hats off to the manager for trying to play them at their own game when millions would just shut up shop. But that game screamed out Anderson for me, he’s a ball winner, and he knows what to do once he wins it. Looking forward to seeing him in 2011/12. God-willing he stays fit!!
I can’t believe some of you think we’re ok in Midfield, when we just lost one of the best midfielders in the world.
Aside from that, Fletcherihno is a big question mark. I know some of you maybe making the argument that there is no reason why Fletcher wouldn’t come back strong (and i hope he does), but there’s the same chance he comes backs playing like he did last season (below par).
Hargo – gone. We only can rely on Ando and Carrick at the moment….and yes, 38-year-old Giggs, which I still believe will contribute, but won’t play week in and week out. Cleverly? might get a couple of games just like Obertan did last season, but I don’t think he will become the new Beckham overnight.
YES – We need a Midfielder. Sneijder would be perfect and we would be lucky to have him. Rooney deserve his wages, just as Messi, Xabi and Ronaldo deserve theirs. They are not ordinary players, and Wesley falls in that category, whether some might not want to see it or admit it.
Fred I like that idea 1-4-0-6
@fergie is the boss
i’m glad you picked up on that. My point echoes what Scholesy said a couple of days agao- i wish more people in this country would actually listen to what the man has to say. He spent a majority of of career keeping mum and playing some of the best football the country has seen and now he saying something people are bitching and moaning, i digress. They play very unselfishly. Now we work hard but its not the same thing. For them attacking starts from the very first touch. United do so as well, they just do it better. The difference is the unselfish vs hard working , add to that those fucker do work their socks off. FFS they they have 6-8 players working on and off the ball like JS Park does for us. There’s no “his style” and “his touch” i have to consider.
No questions, every one playing to the strength and maximum to the man next to him.
Evening all true REDS
Have I missed anything? I see I have been asked to ‘pipe’ it down, so here it goes….
WE WILL NOT BE SIGNING ANYMORE PLAYERS
Ah, that felt good
willierednut – and what you said is one reason why I have problems with the midfield, even the newcastle game away was another example, has we really did struggle.
Fred – Is it the twilightzone, maybe LOL
@Fred
lol, na fred. Then again that what i’d day if was messing about. I think its a case for?
Sherlock Holmes. Anybody ?
Pipe down Cedars.
@willerednut – Easy mate, yeah like FITB said we did look thin at times on the road, but im putting that down to Fletcher’s absence/form. Also we missed Park in Asia, then he got injured. Ando was out at times, so it was a bit like the season before with the shocking defence – poor performances were moreto do with absence than personnel. It would be nice to bring in another new midfielder, but in case we don’t, our numbers will still be up from last year. Cleverley in for Scholes, and Fletcher and Anderson fit from the beginning of the season, thats already stronger. Plus, when Tony is back on the right im hoping either Nani or Young drops into the centre while the other stays on the Left. Plus, people forget, Jones is a midfielder as well – so him, Cleverly and Young are three new options, to add to Park, Carrick, Giggs Fletch and Ando. Its not exactly screaming out Galactico but its better than last seaso mate
Im looking forward to another scrap while the Manager’s new team takes shape.
also willierednut, lets not forget the catastrophic collapses of everton fulham and west brom away, we almost did it against liverpool at home, when united took a 2 goal lead in all 4 of the games
sorry my bad I mean west brom at home in the 2 2 draw, when united threw away the 2 goal lead
@ Cedars i hope you’ll be eating your words soon!
@ WHAT- I hate crying over spilt milk and that- but I really thought Fergie might change it at half time.
Rooney’s goal was a lifeline, we were all square again- so I expected Sir Alex to take that opportunity and tighten it up. Even if it was just moving Park infield to make it 3 vs 3 in the middle…and put Rooney on the left. He could still come infield and link up with Chicha- but when we lost the ball, he could get his backside out to the flank again (Barca were pretty slow in getting the ball to Alves anyway). Anderson on for Giggsy at half time would’ve been a ballsy but good call IMO.
A midfield trio of Park-Carrick-Anderson gives far more solidity than a midfield 2 of Carrick & Giggsy, with Rooney dropping in occasionally.
@Cedar’s Devil
Well if you say it, it must be right.
@Sparkz
I agree totally. It’s so hard to question Fergie about anything and I was of the idea of going 2 up top and taking the game to Barca because we had been playing so well with that formation, but I was shocked he never changed it at half time after Rooney’s goal got us back in a game where barring the first 10 mintues we very much second best. We’ll never know if it would have made a difference but I was of the idea at half time that he would go 5 in midfield to stem the Barca flow.
@Devil310 – In all honesty, its not a slight on Scholes to give credit where its due. Our existing midfield is not as bad as is being made out. In fact, our new look squad looks bloody promising. For starters, Jones can play Carricks position, and Young can play the position everybody wanted Nasri to play. So think about it now mate – we’ve ALREADY signed a DM (who can play CB) and an AM (who can play LW or RW). Don’t know about anybody else but personally I think our midfield is looking pretty bloody strong after those signings. Like I just posted, add in our existing players and thats enough progress for one window, well for me anyway Pal!
Red_Devil_in_DC
I will be ready to face the music IF needed
Willie
My nipples were so cold they started talking to me….
Don’t forget that we fucking got leathered by Liverpool at Anfield. Dirk Kuyt hat-trick FFS.
Kings – Pour some boiling water on them, the screams of pain will make you forget that delusion
Sparks your bringing it all back mate! It was painful. but just goes to show the side of our manager that makes him a winner. Thats twice he’s refused to do an Inter or a Chelsea and successfully park the bus. He actually tried to play them, and thats why im not judging our whole season on one match. If we DID go with a tighter formation, and strict instructions to stop them playing, it wouldn’t of been pretty but I doubt it would’ve ended 3-1 either (or flipping 2-0). So as much as we’re not the finished article, losing to an on fire Barca because we started the match 4-4-2 isn’t exactly the end of the world. Not for me anyway.
FITB – I forgot about those games mate. Evans was the scapegoat then. The midfield was as much the blame, for not protecting the back four.
@Fred – come on mate, context,
we’d just lost to the Rent Boys at the bridge with a late goal and we was at Anfield. Furthermore, it was a bastard of a game in its own right anyway cos at 1-0 down it wasn’t that bad a deal, but Nani’s freak header put us at 2-0 then Carragher took him out the game, and well we all know the rest. Two bad results, felt like shit, but I wouldn’t read too much into either game. Without GBH we battered them at Old Trafford, and we knocked the rent boys out of Europe. Swings and roundabouts.
@WHAT?? – Do you believe our current starting eleven is as strong as the one we came out in the CL FInal of 07-08?
Last season wasn’t just about the 19th either, GLORIOUS as that was. On a much smaller note, we FINALLY beat those DIRTY rent boys at the Bridge!!! Rooney did himself proud against Chelsea AND City, Berbatov taught Liverpool a lesson, and might I add, our midfield played some bloody good football in Europe before we played the team people reckon is the best EVER. So dry your eyes mates! Can’t win it all, just enjoy it when you do!
Laters
Fred that’s unfair don’t remember exactly but wasn’t it utds 5th game in 15 days all on the road and didn’t we have injuries
Fred that’s unfair don’t remember exactly but wasn’t it utds 5th game in 15 days all on the road and didn’t we have injuries
Double trouble.
Using the famous word of my friend Willie…………….. Echo!
Echo!
All due respect to the Ginger Genius- my favourite player of all time. But games like Liverpool away where we got overrun was coz him and Carrick were paired together in the middle. Scholesy just didn’t have the legs for it, and we got outfought in there.
Same thing had happened a few days earlier at Stamford Bridge. Scholesy helped us control the first half- but from 50 mins onwards he was shot, and Carrick was having to do the work of 2 men, hence us getting overpowered in the second half. (same thing happened in Moscow as well where Chelsea dominated the second half- then we took Scholesy off, put Hargreaves in the middle, and wrestled back control during extra time)
Devil310 – alright mate, just posted and seen this. Course it bloody wasn’t! We had two of the best players in the world playing in the same team and Scholes and Giggs were younger. But the thing is, what made that team so special? We didn’t buy Rooney in the summer window before that, he’d been here years developing. Ronaldo didn’t jog out the best in the world, he’d ben here developing for years. Giggs and Scholes weren’t super shocker summer swoops either, we developed them. That pretty much explains my attitude, its not about buying another class of 99, or buying another “Trinity”,or instant success, because when you look back, our success is largely developed with a few big signings along the way. We’ve already made 3 top signings, and im much more excited about seeing Young, Kiko, Welbeck, Cleverley, Anderson etc. I want to see them play more than I want to see us spend 35M on one player. If we sign another midfielder or we don’t, im not bothered, I just wanna see existing players play. Just thats me mate.
Take it easy.
Kaka on a years loan.
Using my blackberry had problems with using rom for over a week
***trust the players we’ve got is all I’ve been trying to say.
fair play we lost to the best team in the world
but our lads got to a 3rd final in 4 years and brought home the 19th ffs. So regardless who we bring in, Chin up lads!
Laters.
willierednut – evans was one weakness in the backline, but when fletcher and scholes do not offer protection to the back 4, and scholes energy level’s draining because of age, then it is a big problem, and these games like everton we had a 3 man midfield and still united were getting overrun
@WHAT???
I’m also exited to see both the Da Silvas own those full back positions, as I am exited to see Cleverly get the opportunity (just like Gibbo got his last season), but my point is mainly that our depth and quality is not like it could be. The same argument could have been made before we purchased Hargo, and this is when we still had younger Scholes and Giggs, but we still bought him for a nice sum of money from Bayern, and yes it was worth it.
I’ll be ok if no one comes in. Wont be loosing any sleep, really. All we have here are opinions, and I respect where you’re coming from, but we won the league with 80pts. Look back at previews season when 2-3 teams (including us) were surpassing that. All I’m saying is that we shouldn’t get complacent. Didn’t mean to come off as cynical. Cheers!
WHAT??? – It’s not about about trusting the players we have. I think, bar a few headers, most do trust the players and the manager. It’s about accessing, what some of us think we need. If we were to get that CM, I wouldn’t care if we went the next 2/3 transfer windows, without adding anyone.
WHAT ??? – yes the midfield played some good football, but when the team went up against a stellar midfield, that sets the standards in Europe, then the united midfield should look to be improved, when it has let itself get older, and picking up more injury’s. If the youth players come in and become top players I will be delighted.
But for the time being, we need the quality for the here and now, heck if united improve the central midfield, then it gives the boss the confidence to play a Morrison welbeck cleverly or a pogba with an already established midfield, look at the likes of sharpe giggs butt beckham scholes break through, they learnt from the likes of keane ince robson kanchelskis mcclair, established experienced players they could learn from, not throwing them into the lion’s den, and expecting them to be the solution.
Papii
I am gonna celebrate!
Go Ahead Cedars
Operation: Get Sneijder Out has Suceeded
Mission 2: Mutiny on RoM, Make it Bill Bob’s Blog and He shall be named BillBob The Knob
Hahahahaha
Some folk think lashing out top dollar on players would bridge the gap with Barca. Would it fuck imo. Those lads have been playing together for time. You cannot buy that. That’s why I hope in the next couple of years morrison pogba and tunni will have that telepathy with each other. You cannot attribute defeats at anfield just down to the midfield. It was one of those days. Think newcastle and southampton drubbing in ninet five or six. We had keano in there bit it didn’t fucking matter. Shit happens.
Sparkz. Could not agree more about Scholes and Carrick in the middle. I didn’t like that pairing the last season or two. Carrick did suffer in form but he was always to blame for some. In reality he was doing two peoples jobs. Look at him and ando together. A good pairing I think. Blackburn and brum at home for starters. We cut them to pieces.
Oh I thought that fucking scum cunt megleeker had corked it. Apparantly not. No cunt likes you or captain cunt so do us all a favour and fuck off. Cheers.
@King Eric
Lashing out top dollar is necessary and it is pretty much a norm on any big club. Yes, others are more spoiled than other (City, Madrid), and it has been ineffective for them, but that doesn’t prove that you shouldn’t spend big at all.
The reality I see is that there has to be a balance between spending big and using your youth, and what you already got. We haven’t bought anybody in CM since Hargo and Ando. That’s was 4 years ago. Plus we just lost Scholes, and Hargo is gone. Yes, we can cope. But we need a CM.
@King Eric
Lashing out top dollar is necessary and it is pretty much a norm on any big club. Yes, others are more spoiled than other (City, Madrid), and it has been ineffective for them, but that doesn’t prove that you shouldn’t spend big at all.
The reality I see is that there has to be a balance between spending big and using your youth, and what you already got. We haven’t bought anybody in CM since Hargo and Ando. That’s was 4 years ago. Plus we just lost Scholes, and Hargo is gone. Yes, we can cope. But we need a CM.
I agree Anderson could have brought something to the table against Barca. Same can be said for a fit Fletch and that rarest of things – a fit Hargreaves. It’s as if the boss already had the pieces in place but fate denied him the chance to deploy them.
I do think though, as I’ve mentioned before – the twins could do a decent job on Xavi and Iniesta. They’re not your typical DM build, but they have the acceleration, speed, tackling ability and attitude to get in their faces. Fuck Busquets, he’s shit. Leave him unmarked to try to do what the other 2 do and that carousel is fucked.
Devil310. Hello mate. Oh I think you have misunderstood. I would love us to get Sneijder and yes we do need to spend relatively big. What I meant though is signing a nasri (perish the thought ) or sneijder wouldn’t really make a blind bit of difference against that current barca team. As i say you can’t buy that chemistry.
Sneijder isn’t coming – at least I hope he isn’t. Another £200k a week player in the dressing room isn’t worth the potential aggro, particularly if Sneider’s as injury prone as suggested. The midfield certainly needs strengthening but I hope SAF can do that by reconfiguring the players we’ve already got. Hopefully Fletcher will be back (and strengthened up a bit), there are promising kids coming through and we can always drop Rooney deeper.
@ Devil310 – no worries mate, is that balance between not being complacent and not being over reactionary I guess. With so many youngsters in our squad they all get better every year anyway.
@Willie – I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised, because I think we will get a midfielder, but then I’ve thought that before and it didn’t happen. For the last two seasons I’ve gotten used to scrapping it out with what we’ve got, so if we don’t get an out and out midfielder, I’ll be happy with Jones (DM) and Young (AM) as potential options that will give us the depth we’ve lacked. But a Hargo all rounder would be perfect. Still, lets see what Fletcher looks like in August, plenty of time to get some Scots Oats down his neck Lol
@ FITB – your guess is as good as mine Pal. We’ll soon find out, but like I said to Willie we have already strengthened the middle of midfield with Jones and Young. A player like Sneijder would be brilliant its just the cost and the value im thinking about. IMO its too much money, and when Alex says Inter don’t want to see, im assuming he means at a reasonable price. So maybe we’ll look elsewhere. Still, even if we stick with what we’ve got, Jones and Young are both proven in the middle, and even though people don’t seem to see it, we have much stronger midfield options now with those two transfers
King Eric @ 22.47 Spot on mate.
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