Do you remember the days whenever the opposition got in to our half, you felt nervous? I’m not talking about that long ago. The 2004-2005 season was probably when it was at its worse. Our midfield was easily bypassed, with Kieran Richardson, Alan Smith and Darren Fletcher not up to the job, but our defence was alright. Mikael Silvestre left us with our hearts in our mouths at times, but Rio Ferdinand, Gabriel Heinze, Wes Brown and Gary Neville could do a job for us.
But if the ball got behind the defence, heaven help us. I remember tensing every time one of our players even passed it back to the goalie. Whether it was Tim Howard or Roy Carroll the manager had opted for that day, I didn’t want the ball anywhere near either of them.
Carroll played in 2/3 of the league games that season, Howard in the remaining 1/3 with Ferguson chopping and changing between two dependent on who looked the most shaky. The epitome of this indecision was the games against AC Milan in the last 16. We lost the first leg at Old Trafford after Carroll let a Clarden Seedorf shot pounce off his chest in to Hernan Crespo’s path to score. Howard got drafted in for the second leg but the scoreline was repeated after Howard just watched Crespo’s header sail past him.
By the end of the season, with United playing Arsenal in the FA Cup final, Carroll was definitely the favourite. After battering them for two hours and it coming down to penalties, I was certain the manager would use our last substitution to bring on Howard for Carroll, whose reactions were more impressive. But it wasn’t to be, Carroll didn’t come close to saving, and we lost. I’m not blaming that defeat on Carroll but merely pointing out what a total farce our goalkeeping situation was that season, with them being swapped when they shouldn’t and kept in goal when they should have been dropped. It was a shambles and made what was already a depressing season fairly unbearable.
As West Brom levelled the score yesterday, I couldn’t quite believe my eyes. I would have one looked like one of those dopes the Sky Sports camera zoom in on, hands covering my mouth and eyes wild. Van der Sar couldn’t have just spilled that cross, could he? We looked to the linesman, the referee, the players… anyone to give some clue that the goal hadn’t stood, for whatever reason. But that was desperation. Of course the goal stood and it was, like Ferguson said, an inexplicable mistake.
I’m not going to get on Edwin’s case though because the guy is worth lots of points a season in terms of the saves he makes that he couldn’t be expected to. My heart went out to him as the clock ticked down and he stood on the edge of his box, watching the players down the other end, urging them to score and let him off the hook. It was fairly painful. I love the big guy and it will have been excruciating for him when that final whistle went.
But that is the worst mistake he has ever made by a long way. Trying to scan back, there was that poor use of judgement at Anfield a few years back when he came charging out to push a cross in to Wes which resulted in an own goal. That was pretty dreadful. But the fact it’s so difficult to think of his clangers indicates how rare they are.
Gutted about yesterday, gutted that Van der Sar made that mistake, but it emphasised to me just how far we’ve come… and just how important it is for us to get his replacement right!
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Van der Sar hasn’t looked good all season. He could’ve done better on both injury time goals at Goodison, and he started the pre-season dreadfully against MLS All-Stars. He is one of the best goalies in the great history of Manchester United, but in a forthnight he’s 40 and I for one might fear that this is one season too many for the great dutchman.
All I have to say is this
All mistakes mades for nearly all goals scored against us have been OUR mistakes and has nothing to do with the opposition somehow being better
We have let them in – they haven’t done fuck all to merit there points – they have been gifted the whole 9 yards by ourselves.
United better buckle up
Agreed, if Van der Sar calls it a day at the end of this season I don’t wan’t to see Sir Fergie shopping in the bargain store for a keeper.
Spend whatever it takes to bring a proven world class keeper to Old Trafford.
Keeping is the most important and thankless job in football.
Outfield players can make elementary mistakes during a game, but these mistakes are forgotten.
A keeper makes an elementary error….’goaaaaaal’
After watching the game yesterday, I was reminded of the time when Walter Smith had to be brought in to assist Fergie. That said, the choice for replacing VDS is going to be key for the coming seasons.
One more thing win as a team lose as a team do brilliant things as a team do absolutely stupid things as a team
That’s the end of that it really is
The only other memory of a Van Der Sar error that comes to mind was away at Portsmouth at the back end of the 06-07 season, where he dropped a fairly tame long range shot if my memory serves me correctly.
It has to be a concern for United now though that even West Brom push men forward against us and think they can get a result. As pessimistic as it sounds, I don’t think we wil win the league this season. We’ve dropped 10 points and we haven’t even played a team that will finish in the top 6/7 yet! Chelsea have already played Arsenal, City and Villa.
It’s not totally disastrous though as I think we are just one quality central midfielder away from having an excellent team. I think most of us thought that area of the pitch was going to be addressed this summer though…
Everton scores.
I smell relegation for liverpoo
No, there was worse by a goal keeper named Massimo Taibi.
he just proved he’s human too..
It’s never great when you have to replace a solid goalkeeper, but I don’t think now is the worst time. VDS is ready to be replaced but still decent enough to play, so there’ll be no handbags for the number one shirt. Also our defence has looked more than capable since Rio came back of looking after a new keeper.
What I think the lads really need right now is a lift. Something good to happen. Barring the Valencia win, which was followed by another bad day at the office anyway, and the Liverpool win, it’s actually been a pretty unhappy season. Rooney’s personal problems, a pretty poor world cup for nearly everybody (as opposed to a relaxing summer break), the horrible injury for Valencia (who was a key part of our attack) and a run of unimpressive, avoidable, results, topped off with getting booed at Old Trafford. I’d be surprised if morale wasn’t pretty low right now for a lot of the lads.
I hope Hargreaves coming back can be that lift, because right now the lads don’t look like they are enjoying their football as much as usual, and the way United plays, they have to be enjoying it.
Yeah I remember those 2 idiots in the goal -.- but when I think about it, I believe that it’s not a bad thing that VDS makes a personal mistake or two every season. Seriously, I don’t put much of the blame on him because he’s been outstanding in the past 2 seasons. He’s a human being and he’s not expected to be perfect the whole time.
The team were playing home between their own fans and there were no excuses that stopped them from scoring and putting us back ahead. The formation was right and SAF didn’t do rediculous decisions regarding that. The only thing I hate about his decisions is that he always makes his substitutions after the 70th minute which I don’t understand why but still, that wasn’t a reason. This time the reason is not Sir Alex’s starting formation, the ref, injuries, missing key players, the pitch, the weather, or any other crap. It’s the players themselves this time with no exceptions.
An unfortunate error that cost us the 3 points. But in my opinion, he is the best goalkeeper we’ve had since the great Dane, and a signing that should have been made back in 1999, the moment Schmeichel announced his retirement. VDS will be a hard act to follow. I sincerely hope we get the right replacement with the correct credentials.
Nice callback with the 04-05 season. God that was a nightmare when it came to goalies. I love Edwin and I won’t blame him for the result. Here’s the thing though. Did he make the error because he was caught in 2 minds?Already thinking about launching the counter? Or did the nerves that creeped into the side immediately after 2-1 get to him too? If that’s the cae, things don’t look good. The team is fragile enough. We can’t afford to have VDS get nervous too.
I am not one of those fans who believe we have a divine right to win every game we play and boo the team when we don’t. I quite liked the 2005-06 season despite the fact that we won only the League Cup because, all said and done, you couldn’t fault the lads for lack of effort- they gave it their all and that’s all I really want to see a United side do, tbh. It was clear by March that it would take a miracle for us to win the League, but that was fine by me.
This was the one season where I really hoped we’d win the League no. 4 or CL no. 4. Or both. In Giggsy, Nev, Scholesy and Giggs, we are set to lose four legends by the end of the season. It’d be a perfect farewell for them all if we win the Premiership this season, though it would be an uphill task if we keep defending the way we did yesterday.
Buck up, reds. Do it for Giggsy.
You could name 10 nightmare keepers we had after the Schmeichel era..
Howard, Barthez, Taibi, Carroll, Van der Gouw, Bosnich, Richardo, Andy Goram…
Paul Rachubka, Nick Culkin
The odds that Fergie will get it right, right away after VDS are not good.. not being negative, just saying
that Fergie likes…..experiments…. in the GK area.
It’s not just the goalkeeping situation which is heading towards the standard of 04-05. With Scholes and Giggs nearly finished and Hargreaves future still up in the air, the midfield could be just as bad. Especially if we have fuck all money to sort it out
Our midfield is bypassed the same way it was in the 04/05 season.
it doesn’t really exist and that’s why our defense is always under pressure.
The best example was yesterday in the first minute, when the WBA player took the ball from his own box and ran with it till our box without getting attacked by our midfield.
I am still pissed about yesterday, but I couldn’t resist this.
Liverpool are currently in the relegation zone.
@ Costas
Yeah we should be happy right now.
At least we could be scouse lol
@Zelh
Heh, I guess that’s one value of life that will never change.
The formation was right, until Giggs went off. Then we had no shape and I had no idea what formation we were trying to play. Whatever it was, it sure didn’t work.
I’m not blaming VdS for the result, he’s a legend and has rescued so many points for us over the years. What’s more worrying is that we didn’t have the power to really go for the win after they equalised. We couldn’t get hold of the ball and we didn’t really have any sustained pressure like we usually have when chasing a win, If WBA had a bit more balls they could have gotten a win because we weren’t tracking back quick enough when we lost the ball. They had acres of space, Gibson and Scholes were just nowhere near the ball at times. We have got to strenghten the midfield if this team is to go anywhere. It’s becoming clear that it’s not a strength that Scholes and Giggs are so important to the team. Too many question marks: Giggs and Scholes are still great at their age, but injury prone and can’t play that many games anymore, and when they do play they tire after 60-70 minutes and their performances suffer. Anderson has just not built on some of his great games in 07/08, but is only 22 so he can still come good. Carrick not the same after Barca. Fletcher has been great the last two season, but oddly off the pace this year. Gibson is just not good enough, end of. Slow and poor passer. We always get bypassed in midfield when he plays, even against lesser sides. Hargreaves may never come back, but I hope he does because he’s exactly what we need. Someone with a bit of power to his game who can dominate midfield. Also, we could really use an established left winger.
This “no value” in the transfer market has pissed me off. Either we have no money available for players or Fergie didn’t want to invest in established players. He must see now that something is lacking in the team. Van der Vaart is playing his heart out at Tottenham, and it sickens me. We could really do with someone like him.
@zelh, u are right, when carrick was substituted with 19 mins left, he had clean shorts and hadnt made one single tackle throughout the game.
Off Topic-
Liverpool down 2-0
And Thankyou Sir Alec for not signing Joe Cole.. He is shit.. Just another reminder to everyone that Sir Alec knows the best.
happens sometimes. The shocking part was we still had 35 mins to go at Old Trafford and in that period we hardly created any chances and West Brom looked more likely to score than us. Sure seeing that must have affected the team mentally but you expect the players to recover fast. in the past few years United team’s were mentally very strong. 2 years ago we would have laid siege to the West Brom goal and got the winner. Same team apart from Ronaldo and tevez so dont know why this is happening.
As for the previous post its not just Evra but even SAF has to stop repeating himself. time and again he said said we have ‘lapses in concentration’, ‘its unacceptable’ , ‘its inexplicable’ and it was a ‘bad few minutes’ that cost us the game. happened at Fulham, Everton,yesterday and nearly against Liverpool. Whatever SAF is saying or doing at the moment isnt working and he has to change it around. I have faith he will sort it out but has to be done before it is too late.
aig
Ronaldo on his own could make a team look a lot better. Also the contributions of Tevez in that period cannot be denied.
vds is not to blame. i sure hope fergie sees that we have a big gaping problem in midfield….
Just remembered that we have lived some dark days during VDS’ United tenure. The first 3 months of last season. Foster is a good goalie in my book, but didn’t look like he could handle the pressure.
The problem is our defensiv midfield and people are screaming their arse off for van der vaart and özil.
I don’t get that.
@arjic
Always maintained Tevez did well for us. The way he exited the club dosent chnage my opinion of him as a player. Still a class act. Defenders used to fear Ronaldo. So many times he had quite games but managed to end up on the score sheet.
toffees beat the red shite 2 zip……
@AIG
United usually create quite a few chances, so I dont think we miss those two as players even though they we are matchwinnes. We are missing Ronaldo’s fear factor though. Rooney took over in that department last season, but this season it’s a different story.
It’s not just defensively our midfield is struggling when the midfield can’t create chances against WBA at home.
please O LORD let them red scouse bastards drop ….. and then watch the thug and ladyboy fuck off to pastures new
Liverpool have finally beaten United to No 19. The 19th is theirs
@ Colbert
not enough chances?
there were enough chances in the first half to score 6 or 7 goals.
and it was obvious that their moral would be down, after conceding again two goals.
they were beaten in a psychologic way and i can understand that they couldn’t fight back.
@Costas
yep. Exactly. Rooney did that last season but as you said its a different story at the moment with him. Also Ronaldo did rescue us from situations like yesterday quite a few times, sometimes on his own.
@Zelh
I was talking about after WBA equalised. Should have made that clear. Sorry.
@ Colbert
i know you talked about the time after the equalizer, but like i said the team fucked it up time and time again and this time the momentum has changed and they didn’t find the way back into the match.
Everyone make mistakes.
I am sure though on Wednesday we will kill the game off.
Pretty desperate at the moment. And reasoning our resent failures by not scoring 5 goals is weak argument.
The most depressing thing is that we looked pretty hopeless at 2-2. And it’s at home against West Brom.
@Moscow..at 15:30 – BWAHAHAHAHA….hiilarious!
May I have your permission to post that on my FB, with your name, of course, this site (ROM)….
@Colbert
COuldn’t agree more. Until a year ago, if we went into the last ten minutes with the scores tied, you just knew that we’d somehow find a winner. These days, I am more worried we’d end up conceding a late one. The VDS howler was unfortunate, but what I find more frustrating is that we never really recovered from it.
@Zelh
I’m not sure I know what you mean. The momentum changed?
A good United side always push on and create chances. Even when we lose. When we can’t even do that at home to West Brom it’s very worrying. In fact they looked more likely to snatch a win and they could have if they had more guts, but they were pretty happy with a draw.
I disagree with people saying ‘uncharacteristic mistake from VDS’… i’m sure at least twice before this season he’s attempted one-handed catches which have completely failed. The difference is then he got away with it. Hopefully he’s learned his lesson now.
I wish the worst for L’pool & if the FSW Benitez is still there, I would have been happier they’re in this predicament & that’s a fact! The new owner must have been wishing he had not bought this club!
I don’t know. Hodgson is not to shabby either…
We couldn’t recover because we are lacking moral after throwing a two goal lead away again.
rooney out of form and not even good enough for the bench.
fltecher is lacking form too.
same with evra.
Tony V is badly injured.
these 4 players were responsible for the success over the last years and last season.
it’s hard for a team to compensate something like that.
Yes, some players are out of form, but we should be able to see off WBA at home anyway. It’s just not good enough. To me it’s a combination of tactics, weak mentality, and too many average players that is the issue. In just 2 years we’ve gone from being the number one team in the world to this, we’ve downgraded and not strengthened when we needed to. But we are not that far away from being title challengers again. We need to revamp the central midfield, the left wing and possibly get another quality centre back.
@ Colbert
Of course you are right, we should still create chances against teams like WBA but sometimes you don’t get things going.
we should just give the young lads like obertan a chance on the left wing instead of putting Gibson or Anderson on the wing. We did not even have a winger on the bench, ffs.
What we need in midfield is a hargreaves in top form what is wishfull thinking or a player like modric who can play in a 4-4-2.
We should give Anderson a chance.
He’s just back after a half year injury and is doing better in every game. he just has to play consistently.
Shocking mistake and it just seems like the luck is against us at the moment. I do think we have to do better as we are manchester united and winning is expected… but we are level with arsenal and are still unbeaten this season. plus its only a 5 point gap between us and top. So all the scaremongering has to stop! I’m 100% sure we will hit true form soon.
Its not just mistakes that cost us, its the fact the players havent got the balls to step it up when they need too like we have so many times over the years, they just drop their heads and let the opposition attack them and bully them. The way we are playing at the mo takes me back to when SAF said he was retiring before his U turn. Makes you wonder if the players know something we dont to be honest!!
Phelan out
@Gee…you took the words out of my mouth…gone are the days when we used to fight and score till the final whistle and that’s what made me so sad yesterday…after so many games with what I perceive as lack of winning attitude, I couldn’t take it anymore. Surely, players must remember that whatever is going on, they still have a responsibility of doing their job…after all, they are paid millions of dollars..
I wish if I were that mediocre that long that my boss would be as forgiving..
@MG at 13:55 ….exactly..
…and seeing a photo of Edwin after yesterday’s game was downright heartwrenching..
@Zelh
Yes, why the fuck didn’t we have a winger on the bench? After Giggs had to go off, we had no shape. Anderson is not a left winger. Completely agree with what you’re saying about what we need in midfield.
Maybe some are just full of success.
we have to rebuild the squad, bring new players in with the hunger to win everything.
@sillysausage
It’s difficult to gauge how much of an impact an assistant manager has, but I don’t trust Phelan. Everything about him just screams “yes man”. It’s useful for Fergie to have an assistant who challenges him and offers a different point of view. I don’t think Phelan is that man.
We know that Queiroz was an excellent organisational and defensive coach. It was not a coincidence that we’ve never been more solid as a team than we were in 07-08. Not a good manager, but great assistant. Miss him.
sorry, off-topic.. WHAT A BLOODY MISS BY BLACKPOOL!!!!! (about same as ours yesterday) .Don’t tell me Shitty is gonna get lucky today.
@ Colbert
I sign your comment about Phelan and Queiroz.
We should bring him back. he’s suspended anyway
Yeah, would be great to have him back.
The big issue yesterday was the lack of width once Giggs went off. If Obertan and Bebe are not ready then we need to find someone that is. They both have potential and I think in two years time they will begin to make an impact. But we need cover now if we are to challenge this year. I do think Chelsea and City will drop points as they have done so far this season but we are making a habit out of dropping two points with uncharacteristic mistakes and sloppy defending. I have a feeling a change of formation is on the cards with a 4-3-3 on the cards in the near future. It seems to me it is the only realistic formation we can use and keep players close to their primary position.
I don’t care if Obertan and Bebe aren’t ready.
It wasn’t Chelsea, but West Brom and they should be ready to go in such am match. At least Obertan shoud be ready.
You can’t play with Gibson or Anderson on the wing. I rather see Obertan ready or not.
Great left foot from Silva. Strangely enough we are in need of a left winger. Anyway..
Give Obertan the chance to step up.
RedGem
Go ahead pal.
@Moscow.. thanks…
So….. we’re f***ed up to the 4th… under citeh… hmmmm -__-
Well I believe the answer is Tom Cleverly and though he may no light up games at first his potential is without question
He should not have gone but no one knew that Valencia was going to get injured
I really hope he comes back
So, people writing Utd off and tipping City as contenders. When despite Utd’s “slump” they are only three points ahead. Go figure. Cunts.
On to the CL game on wednesday, the stoke away on sunday. Wonder who will start now.
Jeez, Tevez is top scorer with 7? I dont even remember his goals this year.
@ MG
You always have to plan with injuries in a season.
It can happen to everyone and that’s why i couldn’t understand why SAF sent Cleverley on loan, if he knew Obertan wasn’t ready. that’s absolute careless.
I think it is a team thing. The whole club has got to take the blame in the rooney mess and the squad fucking up, not just the team the lot. To much complacency has crept into the team. And I will go through the lot
first the club – from the glazers to gill etc they all have been doing a piss poor job with rooney and failing to pour more cash into the strengthen of the team and it is coming back to bite united hard. They took the decision doing the most stupid decision to delay rooney’s contract till after the world cup. He scored 34 goals, he was huge has he took the ronaldo load and drove us to an almost 4 titles in a row. We have gone from almost winning the title last year to a team who may fight for 4th place at this rate, this team could not keep a 2 goal lead even if their lives depend on it they have become a joke.
the management team – The decision from fergie to use this mentality if players out there do not match ronaldo’s class we will not strengthen. And in summer 2009, there was players out there that could have done a job, united are signing players who may take 3 years to make it, not just 1 or 2 – the club are cutting corners to sign rookies where a phew may make it. That is a 20% chance they will make it. And now fergie is saying until scholes giggs VDS and neville retire they will not buy. That is a dangerous road to lead, what if these players decide to all stay on another year, united do not strengthen.
rooney – Wayne himself has got to take the blame also, to risk his whole family life for what has gone on has had lead to bigger consequence’s for the team. He is mentally shattered, to much on his mind and his game is totally out of sorts. But rooney is not the only one who has to take the blame
ferguson handling of rooney – we all know rooney has made a mess, but fergie should not be so damn stubborn by making rooney and example and make their relationship almost on the road to collapse, which is costing united points, but to only bring him on after 70 minutes is doing a beckham against real madrid in 2003. Fergie is not getting any younger, and the possibility of selling rooney because fergie’s relationship is breaking down is a bad road to go down when fergie may retire in a phew years time. The last thing we need is the need to replace rooney when our midfield needs strengthen.
We need all the best players at our club not lose them. Scholes giggs and VDS have not got long, let alone lose wayne. I think rooney will be gone in the summer, I have seen it with beckham van nistlerooy keane etc, this another example and I am worried. The club statement did nothing to suggest he will stay next year, and fergie is not looking to see rooney here any time in the future.
Zelh
No I don’t think that was the case – the gaffer trusts his team to do a job – he instills them with enough ammunition to get the job done – when they don’t they are to blame for not accepting a challenge – it’s obvious this is the case after 5 draws in 8 matches of the season/
In all seasons players have gone on loan and some make it others don’t.
Cleverly is at the stage that he just needed some experience on a regular basis and again he himself has been injured at Wigan so one could say that maybe at the moment it doesn’t matter.
Thats why I think he will come back in January unless we click and Hargreaves is back…
City lucky again. Blackpool goal ruled out when clearly on, City goal given when clearly off and city second followed a foul by tevez which took a deflection! How I’d love thier luck!
ive just witnessed a daylight robbery!!!
City for champions? Behave!!! Liverpool have a better chance!
Oh and we wont win the title… you see i can tell this after 8 games played.. we might as well not play the remaining 30 games!!! fuck off! United havent even hit form yet! the title is very much in our sights! and city will struggle to make 6th if they keep playing like that!!! BELIEVE!
rooney the king..
“The whole club has got to take the blame in the rooney mess ..”
whooaaa..the staff, management, other players also to be blamed for Rooney screwing ho’s leading to his mess? That’s what it reads to me…better clarify that…I did read the rest of your post, but, I still don’t get the above statement.
BTW, FYI, I didn’t trash him for what he did off the field..what matters to me is if they do stuff like that then their performance on the field better not be affected whcih obviously is not the case.
Reports like these make the Rooney situation a lot more worrying. Hopefully this is completely baseless…
http://j.mp/az2YMi
I agree with everyone..please play obertan or bebe on the flanks..it’s really simple..
bebe or obertan on the flanks>>>>>>gibbo/ando on the flanks..
And please play a 3 man midfield..be it at home or away..we are going to get slaughtered if we play with 4-4-2 with none of our midfielders(apart from scholesy) in any kind of form..
The defense is looking solid..finally..though i wish fabio is given a run instead of the still-thinking-about france-debacle-evra..
Fergie must now pick what he thinks is his best 11 players at present and let them play week in, week out, regardless of the results.
I believe only then will the right results will come.
all these changes are the problem, how can a team form any understanding when there are 4 /5 changes every game?
I also think its time to fuck mike phelan of as his number 2! he maybe a very nice man, but as a number 2 he brings nothing to the table, bring back carlos Queiroz…
RedGem – yea the whole club that is true. It is the same gill who decided hey this is a good idea delay rooneys contract till after the world cup, and still nothings sorted, fergie looks like doing a beckham and not using rooney when united need him most. It was 2 2 and it was 20 minutes later he brings him on. Fergie has got to make rooney feel like he is at home, and the way rooney is now being used is only making it worse, rooney fucked up but fergie should let it go and play him and he is not.
@arjic
I just read that article mate..hope its not true..But IF it is, then sell him and use some of that money to buy a proper defensive midfielder..
I think Fabio would have gained a run if he would stay fit.
he backed ronaldo when ronaldo complete twat in summer 2008. What I am saying is, if fergie can forgive ronaldo for ruining the double success he should let this go, because fergie could create a mentality for rooney fuck the press and let him do what he does best. benching him and getting angry over what rooney has done is not going to solve the problem
utd4life – united need to strengthen the midfield, let alone replace rooney. James milner and lescott cost nearly 60 million. And if players prices are sky-rocket, how are united going to replace rooney without looking at the midfield and a GK. Selling rooney is a catastrophic mistake, hernandes is not even 6 months into his united career, and berbatov is only this season finding his form. Some PPL have no idea it is a horrible mistake selling the guy
@rooney the new king… thanks for the explanation but I still ain’t buying it… Peace…!
@zelh
Is fabio not fit??
I agree with you,lawman 10..that SAF’s gotta play the best team week in,week out..but with the fixtures coming so thick and fast..we have got bursaspor on wed,then stoke on sun and wolves on tue..that’s 3 games in 7 days..he needs to make sure that everyone in the squad is in some kind of form when we come down to the business end..but if he’s going to change then play players in their preferred positions..please don’t put ando/gibbo/park on the flanks..
bebe was in the squad for valencia.. but hes not ready to play against west brom at OLD TRAFFORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??? and obertan? he comes on against chelsea/mancity last season but the following season he cant start against west brom? also.. please please bring in fabio or oshea in for evra… oshea does better at left back and even if he doesnt.. he’d still do better than evra at the moment… evra’s performances are absolutely shocking
p.s i dont see where the mistakes are?? the first goal was NOT a mistake.. was just lucky from west brom’s point of view.. and the second was a goalkeeping mistake.. nothing to do with the defence at all.. defence was solid uptil we gave them 2 goals… i couldnt blame them after the shocking draws we’ve bin giving away… they must have all felt like shit
bebe had a knock Sir Alex said he didn’t even want to risk him on the bench
These are not easy decisions but have to be made and at times they pay off and lately they are not because the whole team is stuck in groundhog day
@rtnk
I would never want to sell rooney..NEVER..but if he’s trying to manufacture this move on his own as the media suggests then we have no choice but to sell him..no use in keeping an unhappy player in the squad..I also agree with you on the point that SAF needs to play him in every match from now on till he regains his form..his 1st touch was woeful yesterday..he still needs another 4-5 games to get back his true form..better still, let him score a match winning goal ala berba and we will see him back to his best..
People thinking Bringing in Obertan, or Bebe will suddenly cure all our ills, are sadly mistaken. If those players were ready, then they’d already be in the team. The players need to stop waffling in the press, and start producing the goods, or we’ll not even be in the title race this year.
@ urd4life
don’t know if he’s injured right now but he always has these niggling injuries which take him out for a few weeks.
Please all don’t go the media route…
If United were winning then no one would be talking about Rooney moving
It’s only because we are shooting ourselves in the foot that the press are making life a little bit difficult for us
Don’t fall for it – that’s what they want
Divide and conquer
And it ain’t going to happen…
RedGem – the club has got to take the blame for allowing rooney’s contract to get closer to the 1 year threshold. abd look at it now he may be sold so united can get cash so he wont go for free. That is bad club management and arrogant to think he will sign no matter what because he is British.
@willierednut
No one’s saying that playing obertan or bebe will solve our problems..because our problems are in the head and not physical in my opinion..but these guys give us something different to what ando/gibbo/park offer on the flanks..do you seriously want ando/gibbo/park on the flanks rather than obertan or bebe??
@ willierednut
Neither Bebe nor Obertan can cure all our ills but i rather see an unexperienced Obertan who played against Chelsea, City and against the former german champion in the CL on the wing than Gibbo or Anderson.
You can’t sub a winger off and bring a centre midfielder.
our game depends on strong wingers and we did not even have one on the bench for an emergency.
fucking careless.
Haven’t read all comments,
Everybody,wake the fuck up,
City are fuckin class!!
We are shit(ty)!
I fear our big era has now come it’s end, (maybe just vibes i get)
Any goal conceded is due to bad defense.
utd4life – MY grandmother loves the game, but I am falling out with my passion for the game more and more and so is she. I am sick and tired of the way the ownership is crushing the clubs ability to compete. I am sick and tired of the united players think they are better than they actually are by talking and talking to the press and taking the fans for granted. It is coming to a point where I just do not care any-more about the team, I feel sorry for season ticket holders of united who are being pissed all over by the club itself. They got away with it between 2006 and 2009, but now the glazers are being exposed has the snakes they are. The current squad is exactly what they have done to united cutting corners and failing to strengthen the team when it was needed.
I know but selling rooney is going to lead to huge problems, that means united has to buy right replacing VDS scholes giggs rooney. Does anyone have any idea how massive of a task that will be, PPL say we cannot replace ronaldo, how in the fuck are we going to replace rooney VDS scholes and giggs inside 2 years if all leave in that time period
to it’s end,
Please,no rage
call me crazy but I have a better chance winning the lottery than replace VDS scholes giggs and rooney with just has good players
@ redguy (18.26)
I totally agree, in fact no point watching games any more with only 90 points to play for, just give the trophy to Chelsea next week and grant shitty a CL place……….. United are simply crap and whilst we always won titles in October it seems that is not the case this season.
Some fans are soooo fickle it sickens me
RTNK
You are not crazy
The way I see it we have been shite in 2 matches..sunderland and bolton..the other draws happened because we sat on our leads and consequently got bit in the arse..2-3 minutes of complete lunacy or laziness,call it whatever you want and we dropped crucial points..it’s time to put such complacency to bed..why the hell do we sit on our leads??that’s what baffles me..when were we suddenly happy with just scoring 2 goals??as I said the problems are in the head..it worries me as to why our players have developed such a fragile mental attitude..
@R-R
CIty was really lucky today and Blackpool was the better team.
I don’t care if they are above us right now. It only matters at the end of the season where we are and where they are.
Let’s wait till Boxingday and if we are 10 Points behind we can all be hysterical.
Lets wait till Boxing day and if we are 10 points behind we can all be hysterical, that’s not as far fetched as it sounds.
Hey fellas, Haven’t read all the posts but the way i see it is that the juggernaut has taken a turn and like warriors on a giant monster are swaying all over the place. I’ve detached my self from the result at the weekend and i find my self worrying more about the state of the team instead of how we are doing on the table, but hey thats just me and my opinion. But my opinion says that no matter which way you look at it something is required to bring back our team that we know and love. I’m not talking about just getting injured players back or weather Wayne want to sign a new contact or if he want to Fuck to Spain. We are being asked a question in the league and champion league but we aren’t answering yet
@willie…but I wanna be hysterical now.. it becomes me..
@willierednut
I’m not joking either
Just to reiterate, I am all for objective criticism, as fans it is our right. I do read lots of great posts here by some very good posters but what annoys me is those who just appear when we have a bad or poor game and simply bash the team and the boss with no objectivity whatsoever.
‘If stupidity hurts, there would be lots of cries in the world’ (Not sure who the quote is by)
Maybe our team just needs a workout with James Corden
Whats all this about vds? We were at home against a newly promoted team and they were bringing on a center forward in the 80 min looking to score a winner….. if we dont get champions league football this season we’ll be rightly fcuked. Fcuking disgraceful this team will struggle big time. rooney carried the team last year nd now he’s life is a mess he needs to get his shit together fast. Every man and his dog could see this midfield needs players but fergi cant wtf is that about?????????? GIBSON CARRICK jesus its sad. fergi is going senile fuck all ye with fergi knows best and fegi is god. I support manchester united football club not fergi
@ jon0077
This ain’t the bitters blog.
On a lighter note, I am sure most here would know that Usain Bolt is a huge United fan. He recently said that it would be a dream for him to play football and of course for United…. Far fetched I know, but imagine him sprinting down the wings…. BLOODY HELL …….. lol
@ RedGem
I think we all wish we could perform as badly at work and still have the boss on our side!! If it carries on I’m gunna be outside carrington and kicking their cars as they drive out, at least it will be easier to take the shite performances then lol!!
@ Zelh
Well spotted, worst crap sky blue disguise I ever saw!
CedarsDevil:
Now bolt listen we are going to give you a position on the left wing
Bolt:
Ok
So what you have to do is this – you get the ball and you run like you’ve never run before
Bolt:
I can do that
And don’t forget to keep the ball with you at all times
Bolt:
Sounds easy
And if you get a chance on goal bloody shoot or pass it to the nearest guy in red
Bolt:
Got it
Great Sir Alex sign him up lol
MG
lol great one.
sound authentic. lol
Hold on:
Listen Bolt when you don’t have the ball
Bolt:
Yes
You have to stay in your position and run back like lightning and get the ball back from the opposition – can you do that and run back up again?
Bolt:
I’m Bolt – not the Disney cartoon but the real deal – I get it
Sir Alex sign him up
Still feeling distraught after yesterday’s draw – coming to OT is becoming more stressful every time we play! Just a few observations which means stating the bleedin obvious!
1) Our midfied is just not good enough – Carrick, Gibson and Anderson should be sold and we spend big on a world class midfield player
2) What has happened to our succession planning – who is replacing Scholes, Giggsy and Edwin VDS? I have no idea.
3) We have no natural left footed player other than Giggsy so who will play on the left when he retires?
3) After some crap performances this season I think we need to question the quality of our coaching and consequently overall our coaching staff. I am pissed off hearing Mike Phelan’s platitudes after every match. Just as the midfield isnt good enough nor is MP!
I am trying to remain positive but if we dont buy big in the January window then that will speak volumes about our precarious financial position (ironic now that the scousers have £2/3m of debt and we are left as the only club with massive, unmanageable debts) and the lack of ambition at the club.
LUHG!!
@ MG
I’ve got a better idea.
Sign him up and build a tartan track on the left wing!
@ MG
Hahahahahaha fantastic mate
Zelh
I have an even better one
Bolt you run up with the ball and make sure the defences wet themselves watching you coming like a mf train : )
And then run back scaring everyone that you are coming for the ball
Bolt – the man that bought fear back into the opposition and gave United there mojo back
@MG and Zelh…HAHAHAHAHA… keep ‘em coming coz I’m slipping back into my depression state from yesterday’s result..
@Gee…yeah, literally coz I’d be kicked out of my job very quickly..
Can we stop blaming the Glazers for the performances this season, the players arent playing to their abilities and to use the Dipper excuse is lame. We have dropped points against lowly opposition and done well against the so called better opposition. Its a motivation issue and concentration issue. It seems the players are more interested in getting back in their cars as soon as possble after the game put on their fuzzy D featuring beat penguin cds, going on and getting tanked up on their 50/50 alcho pops. Fucking coke whores with pancake tits and faces like smacked arses. The players we have are a fucking disgrace and are a mirror of society at large. The introduction of too many foreign players has not, as many suggest, stiffled the creative ability of our home grown boys BUT instead turned them into homos. They have lost all ability to fight for a lost cause and weve become domesticated. Rooney has been a twat in knobbing a whore, especially as his wife was pregnant. But the twat has out twatted himself by sulking over things hes caused himself. If I wear him i would have said Nani drugged him and kicked his arse on the training field. I mean how un English to admit responsibility.
Bolt
He is not a man
He is def not a disney cartoon dog
He is just fast as lightning
@ RedGem
No mention of me? Now I am really sad, I did start this Bolt thing after all
I think we need 50cent to start rapping up every time we are winning
You know to make sure the opposition are too busy dancing than trying to play football and wait for our mistakes
Will that do?
lets go back to the roots.
lol
fergie time and owngoals
@Cedars…LOL..sorry I must have missed your post…are you sure you wanna talk to me..I’m in a bad mood…LOL…
Fuck that, show some heart.
I would think the best position for Bolt would be goal keeper, I mean no ball coming his way would be faster than him surely? LOL
@ RedGem
I am the master of dealing with bad moods, once you have tried me you never wanna go back
@cedars…at 20:33 and 20;36…HAHAHAHA…i have tears running down my cheeks laughing…
talking of minor celebraties that careers are over in a flash leeching off the name of a world known and loved brand Manchester United. How about Mick Hucknell, hes a ging, replacement for Scholes. He could serenade the opposing players at their hotels the night before matches keeping them awake, getting fruity and shagging whores laid on by Rooney Clopper and Co. No, Bolt it is then.
@MG
We could also use a ozzy osbourne pep talk
GoatinaUnitedShirt – the glazers are to blame for not giving fergie the funds to go and strengthen the team which is a world class CM and a left winger. If the team is not strengthened then performances are not going to improve Anyone with a brain knew this midfield aint good enough to compete and win the league. unless carrick anderson and hargreaves returned to form united would struggle in that area.
it is like maths
if the team is not strengthened = poor performances
anderson and carrick have not been the same since the CL final 2009, they had a poor season last season, and nothing has changed this season. hargreaves has not completed or started a proper game since the chelsea game back in september 2008. Scholes is coming to the end of his united career, at most he may have 2 years left in him if we are lucky.
So yes the glazers are to blame for sucking dry funds to go out and improve the team.
@ RedGem
Pleasure my United loving friend….. Cheer away
I thought united could get away with it. because of rooney berbatov hernandes owen upfront, add our defence which has always been rock-solid. We would see united win games at a canter especially the way united destroyed chelsea in the Community shield
injury Time:
Here goes
I tell you what if I was manager of Manchester United I’d tell my Sharon to get the fucking vindaloo from Brum – at the balti headquarters and make those fuckers eat it – I mean what are they fucking playing at? They need something up their backside and I think I honestly do that they are way beyond a kicking – a little bit of fucking chilly is what they need – that will soon get them fucking stopping this shit that they are on. I mean have they no fucking manners – they get paid more money than what I used to get paid – they’ve got houses the size of mine and at that age? And then they go and play like that with no passion and no feelings for the gaffer or the fans? I tell you what if I was manager of Manchester United I’d be fucking teaching them a lesson like I used to be taught when I was a kid. I’d take away all the money all the fame all the fucking glory and make them fucking work for absolutely everything – that’s what I would do and I’d make sure that Sharon would make it all happen. They’d soon be fucking on the straight and narrow – none of this pussy stuff that they are on. Fucking unbelievable – Sharon! Where are you Sharon? We’ve gota fucking job to do at Manchester United – I think that team needs us.
Ozzy Osbourne – Manchester United needs you
@Cedars…next time I’ll watch out for your posts…
Bye all…thanks for the laugh and I’ve had plenty today…all coming from this site!
@rtnk
I really don’t want to defend the glazers but how do you wanna know that ferguson would have bought a left winger and a central midfielder.
A central midfielder okay but i think he trust the squad with all the players and i don’t know if we really need another winger.
Just give Obertan a chance to play regular and then we can talk about reinforcements.
HAHA!!
Here we fckin go then, all doom and gloom. Citeh are 3 points in front of us and still in second place,
two points behind chelsea, we are sliding down the table slowly but surely, we have no money to spend (£165 mill under the floor boards?) top striker cant score and wants away. Berbaflop one good game and thats it. SAF dementia setting in. Up to our eyes in debt.Top international players snubbing us. Citeh taking the piss. pass me the cyanide please. Oh well, it was good while it lasted.
Zelh – fergie always strengthens the squad, since the glazers have come in that has not been the case. yes he done it in 2007 and 2008 but things have changed since those years and all teams have to keep up to date. The results of the year is evidence where the money is going and its not on the team
Like I said at the time, shit happens.
On we go.
rooney the new king.
I said that the Glazers shouldnt be blamed right now as the players that are playing at present are good enough to beat the likes of west brom. The same players beat Chelsea in the charity shield, dominated and returned to win against Liverpool and beat Valencia away. Yes the Glazers are held responsible when later on in the season we look decidedly dodgy against the likes of Milan or Barcelona but against the teams we dropped points against so far, the excuse isn’t there.
About your comment
“it is like maths
if the team is not strengthened = poor performances”
Being a mathmaican or atleast some one who has studied maths at University I can say that your equation is somewhat ambiguous anyone with a brain knows that.
MIDDYRED – do not start that BS statement, fans would have their heads up their asses if we all said everything is fine. 2 0 up at OT against west brom ends up in 2 2. that happened 3 times this season, and we dropped 3 pts when united were 2 1 against fulham, united miss a pen and it ends up 2 2. Now if that is not cause for concern I do not know what is
GoatinaUnitedShirt – that maths statement was meant to state the obvious. the glazers are responsible last year for united failing to win the league. If united are leaking goals against west brom, what in the hell is it going to be like against better teams. If united had the funds from the club to strengthen the team like fergie has always done before the glazers arrived, this would not be happening and I am sure united would be a hell of allot closer.
this team destroyed chelsea in the community shield.
The quality is there but it’s just a mentality problem and as soon as we don’t get a confidence boost I personally see no change.
i havnt read the comments here, apologies for that…ill argue to im black n red that i do think we are lacking in every possible way, just finished reading an article from the sunday mirror, usually the media shit doesnt bother me one bit, but it all made sense, even tho i didnt want it to….we will not win the leauge thus season and it will take big changes for us to do so in the future…i accept i will get negative comments from the red tinted specs, but im being realistic….ONE LOVE MUFC
I agree with you that the glazers havent helped, but i would also like the blame put at the feet of the players. Last seasons game at Burnley, this year at home to west brom cannot be put at the feet of anyone other than the players being lazy. The chelsea defeats can be blamed on the glazers but last year if it wasnt for a woeful 0-0 against blackburn then the league was ours.
How predictable? That old chestnut. Blame phelan. Fergie going fucking senile. Fuck me.
Zelh – In terms of our starting eleven, there’s definitely quality, but beyond that, It’s very thin.
Who said Fergie is going senile? WHO?!?! (Sorry)
GoatinaUnitedShirt – the players need a lift, and they need help if any team wants to win trophy’s, squads need strengthened. If I did not maintain my house it would be in ruin, before I went on holiday I needed the roof fixed I left the roof it would only get worse because it was raining badly in september. The glazers cost cutting is really fucking fergie’s plans they done this in tampa. I said this last week, until united see ownership change we are going to get frustrated. I just feel the debt is to much for this club, how can we compete if united are paying record interest, and even try and pay for players when already the price’s are already overpriced we need all the cash we need, not see it lost to debts that we never asked for.
I’d say that part of the blame(if not most of it) goes to the manager in cases like this. West Brom wasn’t a one off where our players lost their focus. It has happened more than once this season. It’s up to Fergie to set them straight when this happens time and time again. United hadn’t wasted a 2 goal lead in 6 years, and we’ve done it 3 times in the last 2 months.
I trust Ferguson to get it right, but perhaps he has to do more than what he’s done until now.
I am not angry anymore I am just frustrated, that a money grabbing soulless family is taking money out of the club at the expense of winning.
willierednut – is there a complete starting eleven? I don’t think so. Every game Fergie is changing the midfield and that is a problem for me. With the steady exchange of our central midfielders no routine is going to emerge.
And imo there’s quality on the bench.
Costas – well in these rare cases I think the ownership not given funds is to blame.
Zelh – Like who?
@RTNK
Last summer I mentioned that the rebuilding work with our squad wasn’t happening in the manner that it should. And that can be attributed to the financial situation. However, the quality is still there and these players can play better than that. They sure as hell can defend better than that.
I mention phelan as wasn’t he number two when we a poor performance in rome and a missed pen and ninety minutes away from a quadruple?
Costas – it is not and that is the worry, if you do not maintain a house its going to cost more if its not maintained right. I think uniteds midfield not protecting the defence is causing the goals to be leaked. The quality is there but they need help. It is a good squad but it needs more help and at times you got to feel sorry for the players
Yeah, the Micky Phelan theory, another scapegoat.
Allright,let’s speculate in coming matches a bit,
Bursaspor(H) Cancelled due to turkish fans invading le pitch,United win 3-0.
Stoke(A),what a nugget,hard one,BUT, rumours are that stoke may schock everyone by lining up with ALI DIA in goal!!Stoke win,1-0,sorry, An inconvenient truth
willierednut – hernandez is pure quality. O’shea is one of the best backups we have. He plays wherever whenever. Smalling is a great talent and if he’s able to remove the tension he still has, he will be 1rst choice backup for Rio and Vidic.
Our problem area is the midfield. we have lots of players especially in the center but the quality is lacking due to long term injuries, players who aren’t able to recover their former strenght or just not good enough.
Ando is having good games after his injury, but was overwhelmed defensively because carrick was invisible the most time.
@ Costas
That’s what I think.
The problem is not the defensive 4, not the attack. It’s our engine room.
And that’s why i can’t understand ppl yelling their arses off for people like van der vaart or özil.
Will they help us to break attacks up and put our opponents under pressure?
I do not think so.
Colbert. Jonoo seven. And middyred. Zehl. Agree. Apart from your comment on carrick and ando. Carrick wasn’t invisible he was sat breaking play up and made a couple of decent challenges on the edge of box. Ando was the liability. He looked immobile yesterday.
Zelh – Hernandez is a no brainer really, but O’Shea? I’m talking about young players mate, not established ones. Anderson is an enigma, don’t no what you’ll get from him each game, but I live in hope. The two players that we’ll most definitely need to spend money, to replace is Scholes and Giggs, Sir Alex has already said this a few weeks ago. Smalling is just potential atm, but the signs look good at this present time.
@Zelh
I don’t see a lot wrong in the final 3rd either. I wanted us to sign Ozil, but in the summer I did say that our priorities should be elsewhere. But then again. after the recent unbalanced displays, I am beginning to wonder if one player would be enough to stir the ship.
@RTNK
The squad isn’t perfect. That I agree with, even though in numbers it’s quite large. My actual concern is if our current squad is getting the ideal preparation before the games. No, I am not joining the Phelan debate. But it does concern me why the players’ psychology is so fragile and why the defeding(of eash player individually and the team’s) has actually gotten worse as the season has moved on.
willierednut – I didn’t know you were talking about young players.
Of course we have to spend, to replace scholes and giggs and that won’t be cheap.
But we should not forget that we still have Tony V who had a tremendous season and if he’s in form there’s no way he can’t play.
Are we going for Bale again? Will be an expensive adventure. And I’m not sure whom to put on the bench.
I still have the faith in Sir Alex to bring Modric to United. He would be the perfect replacement.
But Redknapp would be an idiot to let them both go.
I’m surprised no one has mentioned Silva, he scored a cracking goal today ya know.
Willie. How very dare you mate? Stealing my word from last night to describe anderson. An enigma! Only messing mate. I have been very harsh on ando but with hindsight I will wait till he has a run of games as we all know I wrote nani off prior to jan and many wrote fletch off. He is still only twenty one or so. Got to keep rooney. A fit rooney and united are a whole different animal. Its that simple. Just need our top players to perform and we will be ok. Still a long way to go. So far we have dropped points by sinply conspiring to fuck up ourtselves. Take our chances yesterday and we would go into half tine five up. Game over. We will sort it.
Zelh – We could have signed Bale for 8 million. God knows what he’d cost now. Modric is a player I like a lot, but Spurs won’t sell us any more players after the Berbatov fiasco.
Willie – He refused to play for us, because he wanted regular playing time and he wasn’t sure if he’s capable of gaining it at Manchester United.
Like i said they would be idiots, but they would be the perfect players.
willierednut
Silva was my pick for the previous summer as a transfer target. Always thought quality players can play in any league and he is quality.
According to twitter world, the Rooney-Fergie rift is going to be top news in all the papers tomorrow. So brace yourselves.
ok guardian and telegraph are both “breaking” news about rooney refusing a contract and wanting out and falling out w/ saf.
IF…IF there’s even a nugget of truth to this stuff and we end up selling him…what’s your best plan?
i’d assume it’d be to real madrid or barca…rather it be real madrid if we were to get someone back because theyd be more willing to part w/ higuain or benzema than barca would w/ iniesta who is class as fuck…but yea…potentially sad days?
King Eric – The Anderson debate will rage on until he finds some sort of form. On our form, I wish I could share your enthusiasm mate, but with another tough game at Stoke, on Saturday, I do wonder if we’re good enough to go there and get a result. As Costas said, we’re so fragile atm, that even if we get the first goal, I’ll still be biting my nails.
Depressing times friends. When a 2 goal lead seems like nothing you know there is something fundamentally wrong. Is Fergie pushing Rooney for the exit á la Beckham, Ruud etc or is that just what they want us to think? Surely there is something wrong when Rooney claims he is fit and then only gets 20 mins when we have been on the recieving end of some WBA domination (almost) for the whole second half. The only way Rooney will get back is by playing, quite exactly what Ferguson is trying to achieve is beyond me.
The Fulham draw was hard to take, The Everton one was quite unbelievable, the one against Bolton was deserved as was the one against Sunderland. The draw this weekend felt different, as if one could see it coming watching our players making sillier mistakes by the minute as the game went on. I wasn’t angry when the final whistle went. It was almost expected. I think most of our players feel the same at this moment. They are mentally weak. Even teams playing in leagues much less competitive than the EPL have doctors that work on the mentality of the players. I’m not sure if United go down that route but I would like to know if anything is being done about it.
Modric is not the player united need. What is he gonna do to enforce things stop us getting over run and putting a foot in? Nowt. If hargreaves aint gonna make it we need a ball winner. A rodwell type. A tough tackler. I actually like heitinga. We haven’t a problem creating chances.
I’m talking about a Scholes replacement and not what we need right now.
Now we definitly need a defensive midfielder. Will be interesting if ferguson goes for martinez.
2 Years ago, We would not be panic even if we go 2-0 down, because we knew that the team would somehow come back to win Ex: vs Spurs at OT
Last year, we believed that the team will atleast came back and draw. Ex: vs Sunderland at OT.
This year, even if we are leading 2-0, we will still be panic every time opposite team attack..
Nani is very impressive, but he needs to stop going solo and pass more. Free kicks and Corners are not threats from us anymore.
I really want to see a team where every player of our team play well. Hopefully, this draw will be a motivation to get our first away win at stoke.
Start of the season ferguson says the squad is “good enough”..we buy chicharito smalling and bebe to add to the squad. 3 young talented players who are not expected to make an impact straight away! Thats 2 forwards and a center half. You and i know that uniteds problems this year would be scholes nd giggs are 35+ carrick gibson and anderson are either desperately low on confidence or just plain not good enough (cant make up my mind) those players would not get on citys chelsea or spurs midfield not one of them when there was talk of gibson and carrick leaving what clubs were mentioned? inter? real? barca? none of them it was fucking stoke and sunderland!! The midfield is where games are won and lost yet mr ferguson says that that lot are good enough?? He says there aint no value in the market no??? ozil, van der vartt, the year before that snijeder and if you think that united dont need a player like that i’ve just mentioned than you too are senile. People on here blaming mike phelan get a fucking grip ferguson hired him.
Manuel Neuer is the obvious choice…we should somehow manage to rope him in…..there could be no arguments against him coming to Old Trafford