Cheating bastard.
From The Chelsea Blog: Three minutes later and the boos were ringing around Wembley although whether they were for the departing Mikel or Ballack coming on, it’s hard to tell since neither of them have ever endeared themselves to our opponents. And Ballack was about to cement that fact as he first went to ground far too easily, earning a free-kick from the slightest brush of Evra’s shoulder. It was a nothing challenge and pretty embarrassing the strapping German midfielder couldn’t stand up to it a bit better than that. Still, he seemed to recover well enough to blatantly bodycheck Evra and whilst he was still down, with the overwhelmed Chris Foy somehow seeing this challenge a different way, we’d nicked the ball off them and gone on to score, with Frank Lampard slotting in off the post in the 70th minute. And whilst any goal against United might usually be celebrated with wild abandon, this one was marked with no more than a bit of awkward shoulder slapping. Should we have carried on playing? Well, the rules suggest we play to the whistle so we hadn’t actually done anything wrong in scoring the goal but the incident that led up to it was more ‘sour taste’ in the mouth than champagne bubbles.
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wanker
and i mean that about the chelsea blog
that rent boy in the video doesnt deserve me talking about him
Couple of points about the incident:
· Was an obvious foul by Ballack, very cynical & unsporting but not particularly dangerous.
· You can’t fault the CSK London players for continuing, rules clearly state that it’s the referee who should stop play and the players SHOULD NOT dictate play by putting the ball out.
· Referee was obviously the one in the wrong having set precedent on previous two occasions by blowing up.
· Foster’s attempt at a save was absolutely horrific, I know we haven’t seen much of this guy but he’s gonna have to step it up very quickly or he runs the risk of rattling his own nerves beyond repair.
All-in-all I’m not going to lose too much sleep over it, was an entertaining game, we lost but I think we look decent for the coming season. There are obvious question marks around the field (My three biggest at Carrick & Park as first-teamers & Foster as a replacement for VDS) but I think we’re looking alright.
jig
if its a head injury play must be stopped
as i pointed out earier if evra wasnt that bad and looking for a free kick he would have got up when chelsea got the ball
but he didnt , he was down after been elbowed in the head holding his head and he wasnt getting up
the ref should have stopped it
thats fifa rules
@jig: what do you think is wrong about carrick? besides i don’t think we got something like a regular first team, as sir alex will select especially in midfield to best suit our opponent. and carrick clearly got his qualities.
we should give a shit about those chelsea cunts… ballack is the opposite of a sportsman anyways…
Fucking dickheads
fuckin hell, how did the ref NOT see that!?
The images at the very beginning of the video make it clear that Ballack’s elbow was quite obviously used as a weapon. It’s unclear how the blow to Evra’s shoulder ended up with him holding his face but I guess that the huge difference in height between the two would account for that.
The key to their goal occurred at the 13/14 second mark when Fletcherinho was outmuscled for the ball just over the mid-way line. From that point onwards, the RentBoyz were three on two and Drogba did a fine job drawing the two defenders to him before laying the ball off to PhatPhrank.
IF Foster had saved that shot from Lampard then he would be one fucking great shot-stopper – it was a bullet and all the variables were against him. Sure, he got his hands on the ball but his hands were not “strong” since he was moving across the goal and the ball was shot behind him so that all Foster’s momentum was taking him the other way. In a way, it was reminiscent of Eto’o's goal against VDS in May when he shot point-blank and the big Dutchman simply couldn’t react fast enough.
We all know that retrospective video evidence is only used to penalize UTD’s players so I would imagine that the RentBoyz will get to enjoy their prize without any retribution from the Sweet FA. In reality, of course, Ballack should be given a three-match ban but that’s another story.
I’ve heard some people say the ref didn’t blow his whistle since we still had the ball, but as you can see from this video the ref is not indicating “play on” with his hands, you know when he puts both hands forward (I’m not sure what you call this rule in English, the profit rule?)
the thing is we was clean through ealier, about to score but the refree stopped the game because ballack was down ok fair enough but when chelsea scored evra was down so if his going to stop cause a chelsea playerr down then he got to stop when one of our players down..plus evras was a head injury wasnt it? ballacks was just his rib or something.
GHTT
Yeah, I agree with you, the ref should have stopped the game. Especially considering it looked like a head injury. Having said that, I don’t think he was hurt too badly but it’s irrelevant really, play should have been halted.
SwissRed
I like Carrick and really enjoy aspects of his game but I think he lacks in commanding the centre of the field against top opposition. Essentially he’s our talisman & should set the tone of the game, I’m just not convinced he has the ability to do so. It’s hard to see how we’ll cope with a two-man central midfield with Carrick at the wheel. I can see Carrick, Fletcher & Anderson as a future 3 but with the current 4-4-2 I’m not so confident. I certainly wouldn’t right-off his ability to do so but would just put a question mark over it.
lazy cheating twat Ballack
I don’t blame Chelsea. But Bollock and Foy are a pair of…
also i think its funny they couldnt be us in normal time when we had no valenica, vidic, brown, van der sar etc..we done well
The ref couldn’t be anymore obvious. P.S. Fabio is great! I can see why people say he is the better of the twin.
The ref did SEE IT. And chose to take no action! If it had been a Chelski player down, he would have stopped play, as he did 2 previous times when Chelski players went down. Ballack was one of those players, who SAF said went down TRULY playacting. However I feel for Rooney, after such a heroic, cracking equaliser, his team mates let him down on their usual nonchalant penalties attempts. SAF should sort this, because moreand more of the trophy games will be closely fought, and end on PK’s.
@Jack
We did have Valencia.
Like the big retarded kid who knocks over the kid who really won the prize and no one has the heart to tell them it doesn’t belong to them
1) Rooney played on despite his “injured” comrade, why should Chelsea kick it out if the Utd player didn’t?
2) Evra faked his head was touched, when he clearly went down due to a bodycheck to his shoulder.
3) It was disgraceful play-acting, you don’t deserve to get play pulled up for rolling around on the ground holding your face when you took one in the shoulder.
4) It was a foul by Ballack but nothing more, but as I said, Rooney played the advantage, the speculative ball forward. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
@micky
i know but he didnt start..he came on later on..cant remember what time it was but it werent for long
Watch the video – Rooney didn’t play the advantage. He had his back to Ballack and Evra when the incident happened. I guess he wasn’t expecting Ballack to charge him off the ball.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfIpOQ0zfqU
Look at Foy staring STRAIGHT AT IT!
Isn’t Foy a scouser?
It was a foul but Evra is abit of a crybaby, he should got up & play to the whistle. Then he starts looking for retribution which could have got him sent off [idiot] especially when there is no experienced cover for is position.
didnt mean to put valenica there anyway..my bad…roll on sunday
whos going to play on the left? park or tosic? tosic loooking good and park does his job well
In short yesterday game showed us the level of refereeing present in England. Double standards everywhere . The ballack foul was deserving of atleast yellow card . But the fucking FOY who was clearly in line when the foul was made chose to carry the play on .
If anything yesterday game showed us a glimpse of what to expect from the english referees the coming season . It’ll be like us against the rest of the world.
up the blues!!!! you lot are all clearly blind, yes it was a foul however there is no contact between ballaks elbow and evra what so ever. stop your roararsing about and lets see what the coming season has to offer.
brettcfc
It’s irrelevant whether Rooney played on or not, the game should have been stopped by the ref not a player. He stopped play on two previous occasions but failed to be consistent and do so on the third occurrence. The fact the first two stoppages were due to Chelsea injuries and the third was a Utd player is bad enough, the fact they scored from play through the injured players position is ridiculous.
@Jig:
In the instance Ballack was fouled and play was halted, I disagreed with it. I also disagreed the ref should stop play for Nani as it was not a head injury.
But the the stoppage for Ballack (which was also a bit of simulation) was in the case where there was a turnover.
In this case, the ball came back to Utd, who played on. The ref has given the team in possession the opportunity to play through the foul, unfortunately they turned it over but Rooney did try to put a ball over the top through.
So the incidents are different. The Ballack incident the play was stopped after the ball immediately went to the opposition side. In the Evra incident, the ball went back to the team that had been fouled, who subsequently lost possession.
I don’t think it has to do with which team gets the ball after the foul. Foy might have played advantage United, ok. But what if Evra had a concussion? You have to stop play when you see the player down for a long period.He sees Chelsea get the ball and he sees them attacking our depleted defence. When was he going to allow Evra to get some treatment?
@Scott the Red: point taken, not Rooney. Howeverthe midfielder who can sees Evra on the floor (can’t tell, it looks like Carrick but may be Fletcher) – he doesn’t stop the play, he plays on even though he is facing in the direction and can see Evra on the floor, and he attempts to play the ball over.
Given he didn’t pull up play for his team mate, it’s hard to argue that Chelsea were overly unsporting not to pull up play when the United player had attempted to put their striker through with a ball over the top a second ago.
Secondly, it was a bit of simulation – let’s be fair, Drogba rolled around, Ballack rolled around, but Evra rolled around in this instance.
You can’t say it wasn’t fair play wasn’t pulled up when a player clutches their face. Evra was fouled for sure, but he was simulating a head injury and trying to con the ref for a stoppage.
How can the ref be right if the players a gaming him? It’s a bit rough to play the victim card. Some players are great, they don’t do it. Giggs, Scholes, Ferdinand, Vidic – I don’t see them do it.
@Costas – it’s clear if you see it on replay on a big screen (in my living room) Evra’s head wasn’t impacted. Maybe you’ve only seen the grainy youtube video?
Let’s give the ref the benefit of the doubt – it’s clear that Evra didn’t suffer a head injury.
I am mystified why he stopped for Ballack, who looked to have a rib injury, or for Nani – but maybe he was treating it as a friendly.
I think the issue that the ref might have had in his mind, even if you disagree, is that Utd attempted to play on and didn’t put the ball out for their own player.
It isn’t identical to the Ballack situation because in that case Chelsea hadn’t ignored Ballack on the ground and continued playing.
Off topic – Good news on Nani, he is hopeful of playing the friendly match for Portugal on Wednesday. That must mean the injury is not serious. I think he should rest and be ready for the game against Birmingham.
@brettcfc
Yes i know. The concussion reference was a general example. Regarding the Ballack-Evra clash, Evra might have suffered some chest injury at the time. The referee can’t be a doctor and judge how seriously a player is hurt. And even if we continued, it’s up to him and no one else to stop play. He has been given that authority. I think this is something that has to be addressed at some point. It can easily turn into a double standard situation.
It was a foul, but it’s not really an elbow, is it?
Ballack is fucking scum.
The fact we played then lost possession makes foy a moot point. Let’s stop crying about this one incident and talk about how we bottled it in the shoot out.
There is something really fishy about Foy’s performance yesterday based on the latest information. The FA is taking no further action as Foy’s report says he saw the incident and didn’t think anything of it.
Huh? A player first impedes – foul. The impeding is done by raising an elbow to players face/neck area and doesn’t think anything about it?
It’s a charity shield game yet he saw fit to award Berba yellow for silly blocking of a free kick yet that deserved no card? A silly hand ball by Owen deserves a yellow? Evra taking the ball but, then Ballack out deseved a yellow but, Terry taking out Nani from behind even though he got the ball – forget not being a yellow, not a foul?
This guy was on absolute crack … how the FA can expect respect to be given to such crap refereeing is beyond me.
Now – the refereeing wasn’t the reason for our loss. Some bad penalties, good goal keeping Cech (during regular play) and poor goalkeeping (Foster) lead to us losing but, I’d seriously ring up the conspiracy theories based on Foy’s performance yesterday.
this charity shield shit is boring now.
Off Topic. I got the re-mastered Stone Roses album today. Absolutely perfect music. Best music ever. Fools Gold greatest song of all time and I will always love This is the One because it’s played at OT. Ian Brown and Manny legends.
@Mj
Evra was still clearly feeling the effects of the head injury to hit such a lame penalty….errrrr
MUFC the Religion, I bloody love that album. My favourite is probably I Wanna Be Adored, but they’re all gold to be honest. You’ll do well if you get hold of all of the Roses’ b sides and non album tracks, some gems there. I can safely say I love every track this band did that wasn’t backwards.
Don’t forget Reni and John Squire as well though!
@ MUFC the Religion
Awesome work and i think i might listen to it on the way home from work….roll on 5 for some madchester action!
On the cheating catergory,compare Evra and Ballack,what Evra ‘said’ at the end of this video sums up where Ballack is.
Well I can’t blame Chelski for not putting the ball out since the rules state that they don’t have to but Foy… christ he was horrible… it was a farse.
No more pens for evra that’s for sure! ;o)
And I think we’re to quick to judge Foster, the boy needs games to gain the confidence he needs. He did some good saves (although I’m not too convinced he should’ve gone out against Drogba for that first goal… he seemed to think about it for too long) and just need to get up to speed… I’m having faith in him!
Chill out, guys! It’s just an unimportant match. Karma will hit back just like it hit tiny tears when he spit on Judas in the CL final. 4 in a row! =D
heard some good news…nani could be fit for portugal on wenesday.
gotta hate tiny tears get over it united had d ball and if they were
that worried they would have played the ball out. Im a united supporter
but Im not a sour 1 like all of you. Fans like you that give out about these stupid things is what gives us real united supporters a bad name
Diego Forlan,you are saying GHTT is stupid??And he’s not a real supporter??
Are you a regular here??I don’t think you are.So you are saying all of us are sour??Get stuffed,mate,you’re crazy.
Diego we’ll see you in Platts this sunday then?
Boogeman Im not a regular here because I hate listen to idiots like you that know nothing about football. Would you all be given out if it was the other way round. If evra hit Ballack and we went up and scored, no so shut it
What a cunt! How the fuck do Chelski players keep getting away with shit like this?
Jeff winter has Foy down as his villain of the week . When did winter start becoming so observant ….
Diego Forlan-First off,you are insulting his name.
Second-What did I say about football that brought you to the conclusion that I know nothing about it?
Third-Why are you assuming that I would not have complained had we scored?
Fourth-No one is forcing you to read the blog or the comments posted.If you don’t like it,leave,don’t crib about it.
But United played the advantage. Thats the simple fact. You didn’t lose the ball, why should the ref blow for that when the ball is gone and still in United’s possession? If you’d gone on to score then you’d obviously have no problem with it, but you gave it away and Foster flapped uselessly at the shot. To claim that this was the deciding moment of the gane, the moment that swung it in Chelsea’s favour, is sore losing of the highest quality. You fucked up in the shoot out, thats why you lost, not because of this. Jesus christ, you’re always the victims eh?
Lads,
This is a total grey area, although i feel the referee did make the fundametal error on not stopping the game during the chelsea attack.
It is a certainty that the only reason lampard scored was due to Evra not being in postion…. Chelsea got an advantage because of the foul!
I bet the ref has looked at the replay and regretted the decision!
They are human!
What i would really respect is if he looked at the replay and said” I knew it was a foul< i decided to play on as i thought United had the advantage. In hindsight i should have stopped the play after their attack broke down as chelsea has scored. its one of them things. I have apologised to Alex Fergusion & explained my reasons & thats all i can do!”
The respect thing for referees has to work both ways. They have to have the respect for the clubs they are refereeing for. If they make decisions at least they should comment on why they made the decisions they have!
In honesty, some penaltys look penalties from certain camera angles so must be just as difficult for the refs…
In this case you are supposed to let the ref give the advantage to the attacking team.. Which he has done!.. Unfortunitaly the play broke down and chelsea has broke up the pitch and scored…
if the referees were professional enough they would attend after match interviews and explain their decisions.. Maybe if they did we as fans might respect them a bit more!
@Jonny
All due respect, but what are you even doing here?
The ref should have stopped play, them’s the rules.
Just interested in the general opinion. The rules state that its at the referee’s discretion whether to stop play or not when the fouled team keeps the advantage. The referee judged Evra not to be seriously injured and you played on. Can’t understand why Ferguson was so angry, this sort of incident happens so often for any team.
MUFC The Religion – ” The Stone Roses” debut album is in the top three debut albums of all time in my opinion. Perfect. Remember the day I bought it on cassette when it first came out in 89. Superb. Ian Brown is a legend.
Diego – Fuck off!
When Nani went down the ref didn’t stop play because the tackle was clean and there was no head injury. Rules state play on. It now appears Nani bruised himself and dislocate anything. Faking poofta.
When Evra and Ballack first tangled, Evra stamped on Ballack’s ribs (technically a foul, but accidental) so the ref stopped play, but it turned out Ballack wasn’t injured so he got up before the ref even reached him.
In the supposedly controversial clash, Ballack is shown in your video to be running backwards and Evra runs into him to claim a foul, gets pushed in the chest to reduce the force of impact, then dives shamelessly, claiming contact on the chest is really in his face. Clear dive from Evra, looking to get Ballack penalised. Ref should really have carded Evra for simulation and trying to get a player sent off, but he certainly didn’t signal any advantage being played. Evra got up quickly after the goal was scored so he could join several other Utd players surrounding the ref, for which, amazingly, the FA haven’t charged United for trying to intimidate the ref.
Do you remember Rivaldo in that infamous World Cup incident by the corner flag, faking contact with his face when the ball hit him in the shins? That’s what Evra reminded me of. Amazing hypocrisy that people here claim it’s a sign of ABU bias. Especially when Rooney was so fa roffside for the last goal. I was sitting in line, so there’s really no argument – Rooney was offside all the way by up to a yard. The camera wasn’t in line, the linesman was well behind the play. I wasn’t.
So, in spite of repeated cheating by United players and ref bias on their behalf, Chelsea still deservedly won. Live with it.
@squiddy, i think u should go to spacsavers mate. r u watching sundays com.shield match or different one? evera with red shirt bolloks with blue shirt. now look at it who aproaches whom u cockney cunt. its a fucking foul just get over it scums. just dont come here and defend that u have done a great thing with german nazi whos is disgrace to the game with his cheating. if u want i can show u 100 videos of bolloks cheatings in international and league matches. bolloks should be playing wrestling not football. after he admited that was a foul and u still coming here and pretending to b genius. bolloks will get a good defensive answer this season then come here to defend.
If at all we had beaten them in the penalties the whole discussion/debate on the controversial goal wouldn’t exist. Lets move on..
Somebody come up with a ‘Bollocks’ chant for the Nazi, please…
Not a 100 other occasions. This one. Ballack is retreating from Evra at all times. Evra charged him and fell down. He dived. Cheated. Faked injury to his face. He’s a confirmed liar already. It’s what Evra does. It was fakery on the same level as Rivaldo. Look at your own video up top. There is no other interpretation.
Also it looks like SAF has got away with slandering the ref AGAIN. And players have got away with a charge of intimidating the ref AGAIN. Not satisfied with cheating all day long, the FA excuse the disgraceful, shameless, classless behaviour of utd AGAIN. Do you want jam on it?
Like Mourinho, a liar and a classless cheat you should be used to it, along with Drogba who everyone knows is a disgrace, Terry a overrated donkey who wanted to leave the rent boys for more money, Ashley Cole, Mikel are all scumbags ect.
@Squiddy
if you feel that way u shud get urself checked.ballack has no pace at all.evra can walk and beat him.he did the same at camp nou to prevent iniesta.he is a cheating asshole.He admitted himself that he was lucky.
as for SAF dont forget how lightly the chelsea players got off for abusing the ref after the Barca game
Drogba and Bosingwa shud have been banned for atleast 10 games.how the hell can u swear on tv?
Ballack showed his true colours there too by running after the ref wanting a penalty that was never there.
Oh sorry!forget that your fucking owner paid UEFA money to reduce the bans.
As for SAF he ahs been punished time and again as have the United players adn we dont get away with it as easily as u do.so shut your mouth and Fuck Off
manutd4eve and bobkoh, you’re both twats.
Ballsack has a rep for being a dirty nazi cunt. an elbow to the face is a foul full stop. obviously not to the cockny bastards that come to a manc website to give their useless two pents of a comment. obviously the rules in london are different to everywhere else. not worried lads, we’ll beat em where it counts!!!!