VIDEO: Berba Kick About In Bulgaria

June 14, 2011 266 Comments

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Author: Scott Filed Under Dimitar Berbatov, Just For Fun, Video

266 Comments

June 14, 2011 at 19:35
AnomanderRake says:
C.L.A.S.S.
June 14, 2011 at 19:35
Whiteside says:
Here was me thinking he was going to score. Get rid now!

Not really.
June 14, 2011 at 19:40
Jamaican Red Devil says:
CLASS!
June 14, 2011 at 19:41
gerkeo says:
he just gives the impression of being a damn decent, down to earth guy. well done the Berb.
June 14, 2011 at 19:47
Dave Malaysia says:
@Berba: GO TO ZEE BEACH. Put yr legs up ,have lots of sex,be in the zone of peace.
Have some quality time with yr kids.

Then come back to training in July with complete Jedi peace. Score 36 goals for us and 36 assists for us Manutd. Sign a new contract. Retire at our club,becoming a coach at our club.Set up the Manutd schools project for Bulgaria. The audition for De Niro’s Movies. Come to R.O.M ,CHAT with us .

U will wake up and will peace after this message. God Bless.
June 14, 2011 at 19:50
berbatunday says:
BERBATOV DB09 ……. LEGEND ……..
June 14, 2011 at 19:50
berbatunday says:
…….. esp of the pitch
June 14, 2011 at 19:51
berbatunday says:
off*
June 14, 2011 at 19:51
Oldham says:
My wife does not like Dimitar Berbatov. She thinks I’m gay for him.
June 14, 2011 at 19:55
Dave Malaysia says:
@Blackburn: As u know its the duty of our negotiators to figure out what Jones has on his contract,usually his agent knowing what his client wants may also inform our club ,that he is on so and so thingys,so if he comes he wants such and such thingys.

So it looks like in typical fashion of our club,they are paying u 16 or 16.5 million pounds.Then there are add ons for service or trophys won and such and such. So maybe in a few years it cud be 20 million. Steve Kean ,I dun want to sound rude , but I sincerely hope u get it.

Venkys,chicken , NOw u are embaressing , but at least u tried to keep yr best players.
I saw @ZELH say on another article ,using the words ‘those indian bastards.’

I got so pissed off, i posted , ‘I AM AN INDIAN,DO WE HAVE A PROBLEM ,ZELH U BASTARD?

Got no reply! moving on.

Venkys, myself ,Balaji,sachu and few others are avaliable for consults, or please refer to Russel Peters for advice.

TQ.
June 14, 2011 at 19:57
PePiNkA says:
The man with the kid that Berbatov shake hand is the President of Bulgarian supporters club of United, he had a meeting with Berba a few days ago…
June 14, 2011 at 20:01
Sir Shaggsy says:
Gotta Love The Berb !
June 14, 2011 at 20:02
One two says:
@dave..hey am too an Indian.religion ‘manchester united’.GGMU
June 14, 2011 at 20:06
Dave Malaysia says:
@Sunderland: I posted that Darron Gibson was given a contract extension by Fergie , it was a show of faith and trust and also for Gibbo to prove himself. That he did. I have been following this kid and have seen him improve and win the trust to play in big games and he done a good job.

To know hear he going to u,its a surprise. But when skysports say ‘ they understand’ ,they are usually right as is the bbc.

U will be getting a player better then henderson , bit cocky but better. U are getting a good deal.

dun know how henderson will improve but its Fergie’s opinion that I value,so i will be waiting to see his comments. And to see if its really happening this move.
June 14, 2011 at 20:08
Dave Malaysia says:
@One two: hey dude!
June 14, 2011 at 20:12
T4M says:
…
June 14, 2011 at 20:19
Dave Malaysia says:
@Ash: TQ for yr kind comments in the other article.

@Alex McLiesh: Dont know what ur playing at dude,hasent Fergie taught u anything. Face to face ,get it done and over it,and have the common sense to do it right. Going to cross town bitter rivals,ru nuts? Good luck to u ,Fergie’s ardent pupil.

@MG: There u are !

Wait ,where did he go!

No there he is, oit!

Damm hes gone, he like Biscuits ,here one moment ,gone the next.
June 14, 2011 at 20:21
MG says:
Dave Malaysia

Like chocolate ones
June 14, 2011 at 20:25
Fred says:
United legend
June 14, 2011 at 20:28
RedLife says:
i really like sportsmen who take the time out to make a kids day and sign a few autographs and spend a little time chatting. It’s a little effort that goes a long way. Top bloke.
June 14, 2011 at 20:28
Xyth says:
It would be get rid of Berba!!!!!
June 14, 2011 at 20:29
Xyth says:
Sorry I meant to say: It would be mad get rid of Berba!!!!
June 14, 2011 at 20:31
MG says:
Sell him buy next Thierry Henry aka David Bellion
Wait.. didn’t we…
June 14, 2011 at 20:38
dmc3113 says:
@Oldham, my wife says the same thing to me!
June 14, 2011 at 20:38
RedTillImDead says:
Love this guy! DB9
June 14, 2011 at 20:41
Dave Malaysia says:
@Bebe: Surprised at the stories of u moving to turkey. They are people who are going to pay the price for this,do u know who?

The scout that recommended u and Carlos Quieroz. Fergie is loyal to his friends and staff but break that , u pay.

The media cant decide what to do with u. Some want to use u to deride our club and others see it as a story of hope.

For us, its a typical hero story, as most of our Manutd heroes have come from tough backgrounds.

U are tall,tough and powerful, had many laughs seeing the enemies bounce off u like babies.

U are a good guy,the team likes u, can see how hard ur trying to fit in, in spite of stealing Anderson’s food or was it Nani’s?
What the hell ru going to turkey for? have a duck.
u shud be going to a primier or championship side.

Well until Fergie says something , i will consider all this as rubbish .

U stay or i sent Zulu man from Kwa Zulu Natal after yer.
June 14, 2011 at 20:42
Louis says:
lets be honest: the berb is a great guy. I wish he would put away more chances.
June 14, 2011 at 20:44
Dave Malaysia says:
damm my wife dosent say anything, wait a minute , ermm im not married. damm thats sad.

wheres tori black ,hayley mcqueen
June 14, 2011 at 20:51
Balaji Sivaraman says:
Somebody’s been giving Dave too much tuak me thinks. The man’s completely lost it.

On-topic, I said this on another Berba thread but I don’t mind stating this again. If you don’t like Berbatov, then you need to get your priorities on life right. There are not many role-models left in football, or sport for that matter, these days, but I can honestly say Berbatov is one of them.

I really, really pray to God that he figures in Sir Alex’s plans for next season. People with his attitude and skill deserve to play for United for life.
June 14, 2011 at 20:55
Dave Malaysia says:
@Balaji: He stays ,he plays,the magic number is 36. Dont mention tuak, Zulu man took my last stock! sic!
June 14, 2011 at 20:55
captaink9 says:
Id say he would be the worst to play against at 5 a side indoor.. he would take the piss easy ..

He will stay another year for sure.
June 14, 2011 at 20:57
willierednut says:
Balaji – The man has just gone and lost his mind!!
June 14, 2011 at 20:58
Clint-IamYourPapii says:
This guy is soo fucking cool, can a man be any more classier ?
June 14, 2011 at 21:01
Dave Malaysia says:
Evra talking to Gemma:

Some of United’s best performances in 2010/11 came against Chelsea – the crunch league game in May, especially, was a huge result. An injury meant you missed that match, though. Where did you watch it and what was the mood like in the camp afterwards?
We all felt very happy because it was a big result, but we knew that the job wasn’t finished and we still had to get the result against Blackburn. I watched in the dressing room. It was the most stressful game of my life! I don’t really understand why, because we played some great football, but when you’re not out there on the pitch you feel frustrated and a bit helpless. When Vida scored the second goal I was on my knees celebrating, I was so happy.

Which other performances from last season stick in the mind?
Blackpool away was unbelievable, West Ham as well. And Villa, when we came back from 2-0 down to get a point. That was a big result. The league victory over Wolves at Old Trafford when Ji-sung Park scored a late winner sticks out, as does the win over Everton when Chicha scored late on. There have been so many twists. The big one for me, though, has to be the win over Chelsea.

Have you ever known a team that comes back as often as this one?
It’s just the culture of the team and the belief we have, and it shows you the spirit of Manchester United. The manager gives us great belief as well and always tells us we must believe until the last second. Sometimes we just know we will win. I remember a couple of games when we were 2-0 down, but I knew we would go on and win. Maybe we are lucky but it’s also because of the belief we have. When you have that spirit it makes you difficult to beat.

Can you remember the most inspiring team-talks this season?
There are a lot of important team-talks… honestly, as I said earlier [in part one of our interview], the key moment for me was the Bursaspor game. People were saying a lot of bad things about the team and not only did it really frustrate me, it hurt me as well because I love this club. But I was convinced we would be okay and we were.

Who did you vote for as United’s Player of the Year?
I voted for Nani, but I think Berbatov deserves a lot of praise, too. People say things about Berba, but to me he is different class. He’s a good guy as well. People haven’t given him the credit he deserves. Nani got my vote because he has been a very important player for us. He played very well particularly at the beginning of the season and deserved to win.

Wayne Rooney’s overhead kick won the Goal of the Season award…
Of course. It’s one of the best goals I’ve ever seen. Wayne could try that again 100 times and it might never go in. I think he had a lot of help off God with that goal! But he deserves it. He had some difficult times but to produce a goal like that was fantastic.

Chicharito picked up the fans’ award. You know how hard it is to settle at a club like this – how impressed were you with him?
I must give Chicha great credit because it’s not easy in the first year. I remember my first six months being very difficult, but he settled in so quickly. He fully deserves his award. He’s a big professional who works very hard. I think he’s had a great season, not just because of his ability but because of his humility as well. He said in his acceptance speech how when he joined he’d hoped to play a bit with the first-team but had expected to mostly play with the Reserves. That humility has helped him go far and he deserves it.

He makes goalscoring look so easy…
Seriously, he is just a goal machine. He scores so many in training. He reminds me of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer so much.

After drawing a blank in 2009/10, you got on the scoresheet in 2010/11 against Wigan. Talk us through it…
It was good to score, but I still think I should get more goals. My good friend Ji-sung Park crossed for me to score with a header.

Yes, and you said afterwards you were going to buy him a car as a thank-you for the assist…
[Laughs] Ji kept joking with me afterwards, saying, “Where’s my car?” Maybe I’ll get him a toy one instead!

You’re a player who always seems to be full of energy. What’s your secret?
I don’t know. My son has inherited it as well – I can’t rest when I go home because he always wants to play! Since I was young I’ve always had lots of energy. Louis Saha used to say to me: “It looks so easy for you to play 45 or 50 games a season.” I’m just lucky, and it’s a privilege to wake up every day and come to training and play for this great club.

How do you stay injury free? You seem to bounce back from even the most robust challenges. Is it just luck, or are you an “elastic man” like Rafael once said?
[Laughs] Honestly, I don’t know. I guess it’s down to good physique and I eat very well. I think it’s just a gift of God and it’s something I’m very grateful for.

How hard did you have to think before signing your new contract at United, which will tie you to the club until at least summer 2014?
It was an important decision for myself. I love this club, everyone knows that. I had a good meeting with Sir Alex and I talked to my family. I decided to follow my heart and my heart told me to stay here.

How do you see your next five years at United? Are you confident the club can win more titles?
Definitely. I’m already focused on next season and winning the league again. Some people say to me: “Pat you’re like a robot – you have to enjoy the moment more.” Sometimes I have the feeling that I haven’t enjoyed the moment, but I’m like that, I want to move on to the next challenge and enjoy it all when I have finished.
June 14, 2011 at 21:02
Dave Malaysia says:
@willierednut: U talking to me? u talking to me? oit!

how ur doing?
June 14, 2011 at 21:03
slim says:
DB9 cool as ice, suave like the what? You guessed it, the Aston Martin DB9, pure class. I swear if this guy was English the wankfest would be of epic proportions. I can just imagine it right now. Talksport would become TalkSpunk
June 14, 2011 at 21:07
willierednut says:
Dave Malaysia – Sound as a pound mate.
June 14, 2011 at 21:10
Dave Malaysia says:
@Sanchez: Before all this , u said u wanted to play for us. Then when different clubs started going for u , u stop talking a little and followed yr agent , u said no preference,being diplomatic.

Now yr club has succesfully started a bidding war. Only one man can stop it and that is u. Like Jones did.

city want u cos they follow the hype more than actuall homework.

go there and ur the fucking enemy!

come here and ur becoming a legend.

Of course that is ,if Fergie actually goes for u.

When u wake up this morning ,call your agent under yr bed, tell that fellow ,to call Manutd at this number +44 (0) 161 868 8000 .

Do it .
June 14, 2011 at 21:26
MG says:
DB9 sounds like a very expensive car
June 14, 2011 at 21:28
willierednut says:
So does MG.
June 14, 2011 at 21:40
Warwick says:
just love him
June 14, 2011 at 21:41
Six studs in Bosquets calf, formerly known as T. says:
It´s a bit to soon, but I will say it. Berba is LEGEND! This gut seems like a bloke from the block that seems to easy to hang with.

Let Fergie know that we want him to sign for life at United!
June 14, 2011 at 21:41
Costas says:
He looks so crap in the video. Sell him and buy back Tevass.

On another note, look at him confront the kid. He is getting better at facing his critics.
June 14, 2011 at 21:48
fergie is the boss says:
is it me or is this sanchez becoming like a prostitute
June 14, 2011 at 21:52
slim says:
@MG

You bet it is,
June 14, 2011 at 21:58
willierednut says:
FITB – Na mate, he just playing the game.
June 14, 2011 at 22:05
Costas says:
With all due respect, fuck Sanchez. I’ve seen similar situations in the past (Silva, Benzema, Ronaldinho) and no matter how much we give, someone will give more. Lets focus on the players that really want to play for us.
June 14, 2011 at 22:12
Zelh says:
Sagna confirms that Fabregas wants to leave Arsenal – “Cesc wants to leave Arsenal to go back to Barcelona”

I bet gooners are going mental this summer
June 14, 2011 at 22:13
Rai says:
Costas – agreed mate. Same can be said for any player. If you wanna join United then you will, money won’t come into it (just like with Berba and Citeh).

Bilaji – You’re right about role models in the game. They are few and far between but if you look how Berba has conducted himself at United he has really shown his class. It makes me laugh that over the past couple of years people critisised him for not scoring enough…..then when he’s the leading scorer…..people still aren’t happy with him!!
June 14, 2011 at 22:14
portugueseprincess says:
I LOVE LOVE LOVE Berbagod. Class act…
June 14, 2011 at 22:16
T4M says:
I have just
heard this from a journalist friend. David Gill and
United representatives are in Barcelona today
with Sanchez representatives, Udinese
representatives, and senior Barca representatives.
The deal being worked on is as follows. Sanchez
will sign a 5 year contract with United for a fee of
around 30m. After the 3rd year, Barca will sign
the player for a pre-determined fee. Why is this
deal being developed? Barca cannot guarantee
Sanchez first team football at this time, but see
Sanchez as a long-term successor to David Villa.
United are keen on Sanchez, and they are
guaranteed to get their investment back (other
than salary) , and he is kept out of City’s clutches.
Sanchez “dream” is to play for both United and
Barca during his career. Udinese are negotiating
possible loans moves for United and Barca
youngsters to boost their CL campaign. stick with
the source
June 14, 2011 at 22:16
Zelh says:
Rai – Berbatov could break any goalscoring record in the PL and they still wouldn’t be satisfied. He should name himself berbaninho and he would be the best in the world.
all about fuckin names.

maybe we should rename Young in Youngchez.
June 14, 2011 at 22:17
T4M says:
I have just
heard this from a journalist friend. David Gill and
United representatives are in Barcelona today
with Sanchez representatives, Udinese
representatives, and senior Barca representatives.
The deal being worked on is as follows. Sanchez
will sign a 5 year contract with United for a fee of
around 30m. After the 3rd year, Barca will sign
the player for a pre-determined fee. Why is this
deal being developed? Barca cannot guarantee
Sanchez first team football at this time, but see
Sanchez as a long-term successor to David Villa.
United are keen on Sanchez, and they are
guaranteed to get their investment back (other
than salary) , and he is kept out of City’s clutches.
Sanchez “dream” is to play for both United and
Barca during his career. Udinese are negotiating
possible loans moves for United and Barca
youngsters to boost their CL campaign.Don’t shoot the messenger.
June 14, 2011 at 22:17
Balaji Sivaraman says:
@Rai, Balaji

I agree. People will always be short-sighted. I’ve heard every argument from a large portion of his goals came in a few games to he doesn’t do it in the big games. When I confront them with Scott’s perfect stats, they have no answer other than spewing hate on Berbatov. It really is a pity though that such people cannot get past their bias to look at a class, class player and person.

As I said, I really hope that Sir Alex can fit him into the team and get him back to his best. It is clear he loves the club and I would love him to stay till he retires.
June 14, 2011 at 22:24
manutdisadream says:
Berbaclass rigth here! You wouldnt think a modern day footballer would take his time playing with friends and chating with children. its magic, its so pure love for football and its most important costumers; the children. who knows, that kid behind the fence migth become a star one day, and he will remember the moment berbatov joked around with him.
i do not believe people that say they still think the berb sucks or whatever. He has and will always be a class act.
June 14, 2011 at 22:31
TonyBee says:
BREAKING NEWS……

LIVERPOOL have announced their shirt sponsors for next year….TAMPAX .

A Tampax representative said earlier today that it was their intention to show to the world that they can help even the biggest cunts over a particularly bloody awful period.
June 14, 2011 at 22:35
CedarsDevil says:
Oldham @ 19:51….. LOL brilliant

Berba is simply a class act both on and off the pitch, love the guy to bits
June 14, 2011 at 22:38
CedarsDevil says:
TonyBee

Ahahahahahaha……. bloody cracked me up

No smiley I see?
June 14, 2011 at 22:40
Zelh says:
looks like citeh can’t splash cash due to FFP.
won’t pay over the odds for sanchez.
that increases our chances immensly.
June 14, 2011 at 22:45
Che's Red Reaction says:
Dimitar Berbatov…. Dimitar fucking Berbatov – A fucking class, a fucking extraordinary gentleman, I havent seen in any football player (unless his name is Paul Scholes), This guy scored more hattricks then no of goals rooney managed at one point of the season, was made third choice striker, dropped from the run-in games, dropped from the fucking champions league fucking final, yet when on vacation, instead of giving statments like “I need regular football, I dont know where my future lies, I appreciate milan is interested in me, I am not too confident on my position at united, and any chance of transfer is quite open”……… BUT NO FUCKING WAY, instead of that this guy wears united (outfit), talks united, behaves united, what more you want a footballer n not much when this fucking genius is playing for your fucking club.

Sir Alex, I respect you on par with my old man, but if you make berbatov go somewhere else, you will just become another great football manager in my eyes, that respect will never be the same which I have got for you at the moment, not that you care, but thats how it is.
June 14, 2011 at 22:48
united.george says:
The Berb should be in movies after United…Just too cool with the entrance wearing the glasses and no sleeves.

Great player and individual….hopefully he goes nowhere this summer!
June 14, 2011 at 22:51
Clint-IamYourPapii says:
TonyBee Nice

T4M – Who’s the journalist Piers Morgan ?
or did you hear it from Gullible-Balague?
Then again maybe the spies from News Of The World Told you?

If this is true i will bite my arm off & sell it to armless bloke from Vietnam in exchange for his balls
& rename myself Clint-The4BalledPapii
June 14, 2011 at 22:57
Alom says:
DB9 is uber cool!!
June 14, 2011 at 22:59
Zibbie says:
A 3 way, well normally I’m not an orgy guy…hhhuuuummmmmmm 3 years then hitting his prime Barca and Tapas hhhuuummmmmm…. No chity nice hhhuuuummmm WTF?
June 14, 2011 at 22:59
Utd4life says:
How can anyone possibly hate this guy? He is the epitome of coolness and Class..I would be shattered if SAF sold him but then it would break my heart if I saw him relegated to the bench next season.. I wouldn’t blame the guy if he decided to leave us because a player of his calibre and quality does not fucking deserve to warm the bench.. He should be on the pitch running rings around the opposition and mesmerizing the crowd with his silky 1st touch and deft flicks..

Dimitar Berbatov, took one look at city and said fuck off..
June 14, 2011 at 23:01
TonyBee says:
cedars….just for you… xx

night night all
June 14, 2011 at 23:03
CedarsDevil says:
Utd4life

Hi mate, good post, especially the last line….. Loved it
June 14, 2011 at 23:03
Zibbie says:
I was awesome reading all the posts today and to witness the love of a brotherhood of like minded men, expressing heart felt feelings for Cedars, Smartalex and Willietherednut !!!
ALL HAIL RoM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 14, 2011 at 23:04
Zibbie says:
@Cedars my dick is so happy to see you!
June 14, 2011 at 23:06
CedarsDevil says:
Cheers Zibbie….. You are a true RED my friend and thanks once again for your regular mentions
June 14, 2011 at 23:08
kiccha says:
@tonybee : that was genius was searching for the like button !! @str we need a ‘like’ button there
June 14, 2011 at 23:09
CedarsDevil says:
Zibbie

Not too sure about that last comment of yours! lol But I know what you mean hahahaha
June 14, 2011 at 23:09
Zibbie says:
You are so welcome. A true RED thanks mate you as well a true RED !!!!!
June 14, 2011 at 23:11
Utd4life says:
@CedarsDevil

Good to have you back Mate..For a player who LOVES playing for us and considers himself to be a guest here, its amazing that so many UTD fans hate the guy..Its really baffling..
June 14, 2011 at 23:11
CedarsDevil says:
Before anyone gets the wrong idea here, Zibbie in my language actually means ‘my dick’ lol
June 14, 2011 at 23:11
Zibbie says:
Cedars LOL mate no gay intentions , not that being gay is bad. Just think what others will think and that makes me laugh. My I just say Zib Head heheheheheheheh
June 14, 2011 at 23:13
CedarsDevil says:
Utd4life

Cheers buddy……….. 2 words for such fans, fickle and spoiled
June 14, 2011 at 23:13
Zibbie says:
@ Cedars I have like 3 or 4 mates calling me Zib Head now. I should have keep my fucking mouth shut! Any way. Cheers mate.
June 14, 2011 at 23:14
wayne says:
TM4 are you having a laugh mate utd are not some 2nd rate club that’s going to be a feeder club for barca,
June 14, 2011 at 23:15
Zibbie says:
@ Cedars LMAO thanks for explaining again. LOL !!!!!!!!!
June 14, 2011 at 23:16
CedarsDevil says:
Enjoy this once more lads, I cannot take credit for finding it as someone else already posted it here…The interviewer is Ian Payne who is a Leeds scum fan, must have hurt the cunt talking to a United legend

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6WbFfovNy4&feature=related
June 14, 2011 at 23:17
Dandivine7 says:
Hello everyone, just saw this: http://m.mirror.co.uk/;s=bq7M-FLB9Nc9shhtAGiLpw03/article?a=fb:746952&lc=11236253&ls=99999002&lo=dd
June 14, 2011 at 23:17
Zibbie says:
And Zib means Dick !!!! Ah shit the Pasta is done. BBL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 14, 2011 at 23:20
fergie is the boss says:
Dandivine7 – we will have to wait and see if the story has any legs, or if the story is nothing but a wheelchair story
June 14, 2011 at 23:20
Utd4life says:
Spot on Mate..We have been spoiled rotten for the past decade or so..But fans like you deserve to be spoilt considering you have been following Utd through thick and thin for the past 3 decades or so and had to endure the sight of Utd being dominated by L’pool..
June 14, 2011 at 23:22
united.george says:
STR is losing it on Twitter….lol, I guess the boredom of no football and relentless transfer speculation is getting to him and everyone:)

@cedars – I am waiting for the day that “Kissi” joins the ROM forum.
June 14, 2011 at 23:24
RED_Dakduivel says:
Zibbie where’s ya clackel at?
June 14, 2011 at 23:28
CedarsDevil says:
Utd4life

Too true my friend, watching them dippers win everything in sight for years was painful, Best we could hope for was a good run in the FA cup……. Mind you back in those dry years we always had a good record against them, most notable of course was the 1977 FA cup final when we beat them 2-1 and prevented them from winning the treble ….

The last 19 years or so have been sweet though!

Sir Alex, we thank you
June 14, 2011 at 23:31
CedarsDevil says:
united.george

Kissi? hahahaha I would not be able to contain my self then buddy! lol hilarious
June 14, 2011 at 23:34
Zelh says:
it’s all over the media now that we are going for sanchez and that he still want’s United over any other club.
June 14, 2011 at 23:37
Dandivine7 says:
@Fergieistheboss, agreed, however its all over major news outlets and also all over the web, I think there’s some truth to it…
June 14, 2011 at 23:42
CedarsDevil says:
Zelh

Any links to that rumor buddy?
June 14, 2011 at 23:44
Zelh says:
Cedars – That’s the one from the mirror. http://goo.gl/ACY6c
June 14, 2011 at 23:55
CedarsDevil says:
Zelh – Cheers for the link mate… Never watched the guy play just heard great reviews on him…. Can anyone enlighten me please?
June 15, 2011 at 00:00
Zelh says:
I’ve watched him regularly since the WC. definitly knows how to use his body, great speed, tremendous skills on the ball, good shot, can cross, cut in, isn’t that bad as a header and can play on both wings, behind the striker and in the centre.
June 15, 2011 at 00:04
Rai says:
Zehl, Bilaji – Very true gents. I’m sure Berbatov last season bettered his previous years even at Spurs (I might be wrong but can’t be arsed to research it) and people were raving about him then. Now he’s actually ours people somehow expect more. When he signed people had it in their heads that he was going to be a Cantona type player…that was never going to be the case (not just because Eric is truly unique). It took Teddy a year or two to find his feet and no offence to him but Berba has a lot more potential. I really will be disappointed if he’s not wearing our colours next year. I’m sure if given the opportunity he’ll have another impressive season. He’s unpredictable in his play and against certain opposition his guile will be needed more than Chico’s pace.
June 15, 2011 at 00:08
Zelh says:
Rai – I would be extremly sad to see berba go. he’s united through and through. Against teams who park the bus I would use him, cause he can keep the ball, structure the game, play a killer ball or score.

I can understand that Hernandez is 1st choice, but neither welbeck nor Macheda has the quality to fill the gap, berba would left if he has to go. There couldn’t be a better striker off the bench.

plays his best season and not a bad word that he’s only on the bench. such a kind person.
June 15, 2011 at 00:11
aimanunited says:
I don’t think Sanchez rumours are true but if it really happen then it’s impossible for Nani to stay.
Why are we going for wingers when the most lacking role is CM?
The only explanation is Sanchez to replace Nani which will be use in Sneijder’s deal…
Sounds ridiculous but it could just happen…
will be sad to lose Nani though…
June 15, 2011 at 00:13
CedarsDevil says:
Zelh

Thanks for the info buddy… So do you see him as a potential midfielder? Playing in the hole so to speak, although we have had Wazza play there recently?

Rai

Well said on Berba my friend, hopefully he will end his career at United and further stay on in some capacity
June 15, 2011 at 00:14
Zelh says:
aimanunited – doesn’t have to be that way. Giggs could retire and Sanchez is capable of playing in centre-mid. besides that maybe fergie is trusting in Anderson and he’ll be the starter for the new season.

we’ll see what fergie has made up in his mind.
June 15, 2011 at 00:17
Rai says:
Zehl – That’s it mate. If he was to go, the current back up strikers are not at his level. If we were to buy another striker of the same quality (fuck knows where from) I couldn’t see them sitting on the bench without whinging. People creamed themselves senseless over Tevez and look how he behaved when he wasn’t in the team!!
June 15, 2011 at 00:19
fergie is the boss says:
Zelh – If united want him and he wants to come to united, no one will stop united signing him. Maybe united signing these wide players, to compensate how loss in CM, has ferhgie does not seem able to find the right guy to play in CM. I think next season fergie will look to get the player he wants, does anyone know how many years modric has on his contract?
June 15, 2011 at 00:21
fergie is the boss says:
Maybe fergie is building his CM around carrick anderson and fletcher
June 15, 2011 at 00:22
Rai says:
Cedars – I reckon he can go on for as long as he wants. He doesn’t rely on pace just his vision, so hopefully he’ll be around for a long long time. If Teddy could do it, why not Berba?

How does it feel to be back on ROM mate? Was it hard not to post when you saw stupid comments? (i.e, “Giggs should retire he has bought shame upon our club” ) lol
June 15, 2011 at 00:23
united.george says:
Sanchez eh?

A Chilean winger on one side, an Ecuadorian on the other and the Mexecutioner in the middle!

The the back would be comprised of one Da Silva on the left, the other on the right and Anderson in the midfield

South American feel to United in the years to come:)
June 15, 2011 at 00:24
Rai says:
FITB – He signed a deal last year mate until 2016!
June 15, 2011 at 00:26
fergie is the boss says:
here is the sanchez rumor from the sun

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3637951/Man-Utd-swoop-for-27m-Sanchez.html
June 15, 2011 at 00:28
wayne says:
@fitb modric just signed a 5 year deal
June 15, 2011 at 00:31
CedarsDevil says:
Rai

It was hard not to post buddy, but in all honesty that impostor left a sick feeling in my stomach… I have to thank STR though for dealing with it, he and I exchanged a few emails yesterday and he assured me that the problem was sorted……..

How is the pregnancy going buddy and when is the baby due? Again thanks for your efforts during my absence….

Regarding Giggs, ya we should just shoot the bugger!
June 15, 2011 at 00:33
Zibbie says:
Zelh spot on about Sanchez
June 15, 2011 at 00:33
Zibbie says:
Zelh spot on about Sanchez
June 15, 2011 at 00:35
wayne says:
Is young signed
June 15, 2011 at 00:36
Zibbie says:
Fox Soccer has Seri-A as well I had watched 4 or 5 games of his the year before the WC and you could see he was a star.
RoM world knows I’m a Sanchez fan, he Rooney and Lil Pea with Nani, Young, Tony V going forward in the interchanging positional attack wow !!!!!!
June 15, 2011 at 00:39
Costas says:
@wayne

That’s what I am wondering too. Maybe we are hoping to sign Sanchez and then call off the Young deal? I’d go with Young myself. No way that transfer will get fucked up.
June 15, 2011 at 00:42
Dandivine7 says:
@Wayne, from indications, He’ll sign this week. On Sanchez, IF ITS TRUE, We might see a 4231 With Rooney, Sanchez and Young behind Hernandez, Carrick and Fletcher playing deep and Valencia as a Wing back occasionally with His overlapping runs. As it stands, its still permutation, its going to be an exciting summer no doubt…
June 15, 2011 at 00:44
Utd4life says:
Why the hell are we signing Sanchez when we are getting young? Something’s not right..
June 15, 2011 at 00:45
Dandivine7 says:
Hello Costas, hope You’re enjoying the summer…
June 15, 2011 at 00:46
Zibbie says:
Zelh as well I can see him at cam with Young, Nani, and Tony V blazzing the wings Rooney in the hole and Lil Pea on the last shoulder. As well I see him playing well with Berba he can cross over and play the short passing game as well. SAF must have his ideas he might try him in all 4 spots. He is awesome, he has the X factor or what ever you want to call it.
He improved a lot from one year to the next. If that applies again this year look the fuck out !!!!
June 15, 2011 at 00:47
CedarsDevil says:
Off topic (not sure what the topic is to be honest!!)

Special thanks from all United fans to Mr Pearson and Mr Greenhoff….. As I posted earlier United prevented the dippers from being the first English club to win the treble….

I thank both those gentlemen because they scored both goals against them in the 1977 FA cup final and in doing so made a child like Cedars a very happy boy!
June 15, 2011 at 00:48
fergie is the boss says:
Costas – I wont be suprised if united sign both which the club seem to be hinting. I could see united fielding rooney and sanchez upfront. Has fergie did say he wants to give hernandez a break

Like
De gea
rafeal ferdinand vidic evra
valencia/nani carrick fletcher young
sanchez rooney
June 15, 2011 at 00:48
Zibbie says:
Why would getting Sanchez mean Young is not coming?
June 15, 2011 at 00:50
Rai says:
Guys isn’t Young on holiday for a few weeks hence the reason the deal isn’t completed? Can’t see us getting into a bidding war for Sanchez when Young will be half the price and already is proven in the Premier League (I feel like a right twat two months ago I was dead against him coming!!)

Cedars – Hello mate. Yeah all is well mate baby due in October so as soon as the new season kicks off it won’t be too long before there’s a little red born!
Glad the problem got sorted mate…..some people have nothing better to do than go on other teams sites and invest hours of their time into trying to wind people up….pretty sad that their teams are so dull they can’t focus their energy on them instead!
June 15, 2011 at 00:53
Zibbie says:
SAF and Gill to blow our minds and get Young,Sanchez and Sniedjer…. evil scientist laugh here…..
MMMMMUUUUUUHHHHHHAAAAHHHHHAAAAAHHHHHAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 15, 2011 at 00:54
CedarsDevil says:
Rai

Best wishes my friend and I hope all goes well….. I remember when my daughter was born I wrapped her up in a United scarf and those were the first pictures I sent to family and friends!
June 15, 2011 at 00:55
Costas says:
@Dandivine7

Hey mate. Yeah, I am haiving fun. Hope you are too.

@Zibbie

Because imo it’s too much of a luxury to have Nani, Valencia, Sanchez, Young, Giggs and Park in the same squad. We’d have more wingers than CMs ffs. Unless either Nani or Valencia gets sold.

@FITB

Maybe, but I still consider it a luxury to buy 2 wingers while other positions need new faces as well. In your system, I’ve thoiught about using Nani next to Rooney. Better there than on the left imo.
June 15, 2011 at 00:59
Zibbie says:
38 league games I ask you all why can’t 5 new players can’t come in ?
Com. Shield
FA cup
The Carlin Cup
The CL
Players out
1) G. Nev
2) Scholes
3) Hargo
4) VDS
5) Gibbo
Probables gone
1) PIG
2) Brown
June 15, 2011 at 01:02
Zibbie says:
Costas maybe Nani is gone? Who knows why Gill is there and he is.
June 15, 2011 at 01:02
Rai says:
Cedars – Thanks matey I appreciate it!!

What are your thoughts on the new season? Who so you think will be the main threats? I think it will be Chelsea again if they get Hiddink….
June 15, 2011 at 01:03
Zibbie says:
And I have said I think he can play CAM as well.
June 15, 2011 at 01:05
Zibbie says:
Chelsea for sure, 75 million last window 100 million this and if Guus comes all the more of a challenge.
June 15, 2011 at 01:06
nat says:
im a little bit in love with db9.
June 15, 2011 at 01:07
Zibbie says:
Movie time all the best to the world of RoM. With Cedars back all is well.
June 15, 2011 at 01:08
Costas says:
@Zibbie

Maybe he is on vacation, who knows lol. The way I look at it, if Sanchez and Young join us, then it has to signal the end for one of our current wingers.

Anyway, yeah you are right that we will need about 5 new players. Other than the ones you mentioned, O’Shea might be another one leaving. Lindegaard, De Gea, Jones and Cleverley have replaced VDS, PIG, Brown and Gibson in the squad. So it’s now time to look for a CM and a defender that plays across the back (in case O’Shea leaves).
June 15, 2011 at 01:08
fergie is the boss says:
Costas – young is much better on the left than nani, maybe young playing through the middle and young playing off rooney is better. But maybe fergie cannot find the right player in CM. So he is spending the cash on players he cannot miss out on. Maybe if fergie wants to go cheap, go for de rossi.who plays the deep lining mindfielder or worser yet charlie adams LOL, and have our wingers and forwards score the goals, it has worked well for our last 4 title victorys, keep this model going. Anderson was scoring a couple of goals, so we never know
June 15, 2011 at 01:10
CedarsDevil says:
Rai

Pleasure buddy…… Chelsea will be the main rivals depending on who comes in and how much they spend of course as they do have an aging squad, and we cannot dismiss the bitters either depending who they add to their group of mercenaries. Arsenal will just be that i.e. play fancy stuff and fade away as usual…..

I am terrified by the Liverpool factor though with KK at the helm! Fucking delusional cunts
June 15, 2011 at 01:14
Costas says:
@FITB

At the moment I am not sure if we can find a midfielder that will make a big difference in the team. If Fletch and Ando have a good pre season, then 2011-2012 could be a big one for both players. But in my opinion, we do need a 5th option besides Carrick, Fletcher, Ando and Cleverley. That option may not necessarily be a high profile name. But I do hope it’s not Adam, lol.
June 15, 2011 at 01:16
Manchuchu says:
The central midfield elephant is still in the room
June 15, 2011 at 01:17
CedarsDevil says:
Costas

I think Sir Alex may just let Kenny have his joy and sign Adam!
June 15, 2011 at 01:18
T4M says:
Costas,Adam is off to liverpool.I share your fears,we might not find the right player,we can’t just sign any player with Centre-Midfield in the CV.we need someone that will improve us.Its a really difficult task replacing scholes.
June 15, 2011 at 01:20
T4M says:
Liverpool and spurs will miss out on the Top4 again next season again I’m sure of that.
June 15, 2011 at 01:21
Clint-IamYourPapii says:
CRAIG GARDNER !!!
June 15, 2011 at 01:21
fergie is the boss says:
Costas – maybe we should stick to the tried and tested formula, non goalscoring midfielders, and let our wide boys do the buisness and our strikers, maybe de rossi could be a cheap option. for about 11 or 12 million.
June 15, 2011 at 01:22
Costas says:
Really guys? Adam is off to Liverpool. That’s good to know. From Alonso-Mascherano to Henderson-Adam. How have the (ex) mighty fallen.

@T4M

That’s true. Best case scenario in my opinion would be if we managed to find a bargain like Hernandez for the CM position.
June 15, 2011 at 01:24
CedarsDevil says:
SCOTT PARKER

Papii you nut head!
June 15, 2011 at 01:25
Costas says:
@FITB

I wouldn’t mind that formula to be honest. There’s plenty of talent up front and the main priority should be conceding less goals next season. Not sure if De Rossi would ever join us or if he would be the answer to the problem though. I have my reservations.
June 15, 2011 at 01:25
T4M says:
Exactly Costas,I don’t know what Sanchez signing means for Nani.We just have to wait and see.I don’t want him out.
June 15, 2011 at 01:26
wayne says:
@Costas lol i was thinking exactly the same thing all forwards and no midfield,don’t think tony v is going anywere same with park,could nani be used in player plus cash for W.S. inter have a definite interest in him,sir alex is going to sign a midfield player defour would come alot cheaper than modric or W.S.if utd sign sanchez and young it’ll leave me a little confused.
June 15, 2011 at 01:26
T4M says:
Gill and Fergie have a job on their hand.Sanchez signing definately spells the end for Obertan.our Spending could reach 100m but the net spending is what we should look at.
June 15, 2011 at 01:28
Rai says:
Cedards – Yeah we should be terrified mate. With Henderson, Goofy Cunt and Tail Head it looks like money well spent(!)

FITB – Mate do you really think De Rossi will add to the current midfield? I can’t see him getting in ahead of Fletcher. Playing them both together i’m not too sure about. I’d rather give Tunni a chance before we spend on a DM. Although Hargreaves will be gone I think Fletch and Carrick between them can fill that role comfortably as they have done the past 2 seasons………
June 15, 2011 at 01:31
smartalex says:
Coming through from Manchester Airport right now is news of a possible CM for United having just landed! I only found out by luck as I’m on twitter following the adventures of a false moustache in Joey Barton’s hand luggage. Follow him @tachécase
June 15, 2011 at 01:31
fergie is the boss says:
Costas – bargains are always out there with fergie and their scouts. The united scouts put arsenal and barca to shame these days.
June 15, 2011 at 01:32
CedarsDevil says:
Costas

I know you are a big fan of Heskey as I am of Marcus Bent, I say sell Rooney and Hernandez and land those 2, we would have a strike partnership to terrorize the PL and Europe

Rai – LOL
June 15, 2011 at 01:33
fergie is the boss says:
Rai – I was playing devils advocaat, with united wanting to spend so much on de gea jones young and possibly sanchez, was looking for a cheap alternative to replace hargreaves
June 15, 2011 at 01:46
smartalex says:
That Advocaat sure can be lethal!
June 15, 2011 at 01:50
Rai says:
FITB – That’s what I mean mate, do you think he needs replacing? Carrick has played well as a holding midfielder and Fletcher has all the attributes too…..It’s been two years now and Fergie hasn’t gone out and bought an out and out holding CM even though we all knew Hargreaves was injury prone – I think if it was a massive cause for concern he would have bought in cover when Hargreaves was undergoing his operations…

It’s a massive shame that he never got over his injury problems, he’s a beast of a player when he’s fit.
June 15, 2011 at 02:02
Zelh says:
Loved the curly hair. such a shame that he’s made out of glue.

If we should really sign sanchez that would trigger a chain reaction. maybe giggs retirement and the sale of berba or nani.
The thing is Sanchez can play almost everywhere over the pitch so there are limitless tactical options to use him.
We shouldn’t forget, that Giggs is in his last year if he does not retire and Park also reached 30.

I think Ferguson has faith in Ando, Carrick, Fletcher Cleverley and the 3 youngsters emerging. Maybe we see a bargain. who knows.
but what I’ve seen from Sanchez since the WC is that we shouldn’t miss out on him.
June 15, 2011 at 02:08
Toms says:
Rather Valencia go than Nani.

No way we can be in for Sanchez if we paid over the odds for Young.

Not quite sure what ot make of all of this.
June 15, 2011 at 02:12
Rai says:
Zelh – Can’t see Giggs retiring. Don’t think he should to be honest he still has a lot to offer and I think he was instrumental in winning 19. I think if he stays fit and performs like he did last year, he’ll still be around to win 21

Also of we got rid of our leading goal scorer and our player with the most assists – I would be very worried.
June 15, 2011 at 02:15
Zelh says:
Rai – can’t imagine what Ferguson is planning with his big interest in Sanchez. we lack a really good cm,but I can understand that he doesn’t want to lose out on Sanchez. Nevertheless I would hate to see the topscorer or the best player of our season to be sacrificed for a new player.
June 15, 2011 at 02:21
smartalex says:
I’m new on twitter, so I thought I’d start small. Follow me @om
June 15, 2011 at 02:29
King Eric says:
Seriously lads! Sanchez is coming here BUT only for three years then we he is in his peak then we will sell him to barca as its ambition to play for both. Oh do me a fucking favour. Do people actually believe that? Costas is spot on. Fuck him. If he doesn’t want to come and his agent wants a bidding war fuck em. How many wingers do we need? We won’t get him and young. Folk really are talking like he is the saviour. We have two damn good wingers anyway. Aint seen much of him. Saw him in SA and he looked ok but is he just another step over king? I would rip Seria A up. No Costas is spot on. Just get players who want to play for the club. It would be bizarre getting Sanchez and selling Nani. No need whatsoever.
June 15, 2011 at 02:37
berbatunday says:
May be Gill is in catalan to bring in iniesta???????
June 15, 2011 at 02:41
toshe says:
i hope berba stays
June 15, 2011 at 02:44
Rai says:
There’s nothing worse than signing a player knowing that one day ‘he aspires to play for Barca’. I wouldn’t want another saga with the VIRUS and I don’t want us to go through it with Barca. If he wants to play for us he will, if he wants money he’ll go somewhere else. No point getting into an auction. I can’t comment too much about him because I haven’t seen him play…but his agent will be having a field day with all the fuss.

Maybe it’s a decoy to sign Shaun Goater…
June 15, 2011 at 02:49
sandeep1878 says:
If sanchez is in..then nani is out..may be to Inter or Madrid..

or are we going with 4 wingers?
June 15, 2011 at 03:14
Kusa says:
hey guys, turns out the dippers could count.

http://liverpooltees.com/
June 15, 2011 at 03:17
Rai says:
Sandeep1878 – I think we should trust the player himself. He has said that he wants to improve next season and help the team win more trophies. I don’t think he’s initiating a transfer and I can’t see the boss selling him when he’s finally fulfilling his potential…
June 15, 2011 at 03:32
sachu says:
@rai
mate i agree nani should not be sold but the boss seems to be in love with sanchez
we are linked with him everyday
so maybe nani might go that would be sad his best years are ahead of him
also nobody here seems to men tion park
i wont be surprised if fergie sells him i know fergie loves him but he loved oshea as well
he is aruthless person and a great coach and did say earlier that he will make tough decisions in summer
also i dont know abt others and i am certainly not as good as fergie but i have tosay i have watched 15-20 matches of sanchez and the guy looks a realy fab player
June 15, 2011 at 03:34
Zibbie says:
Why would SAF call him ? Hey I here Chile has kick ass wine lad, what do you recommend?
June 15, 2011 at 03:39
Zibbie says:
@sachu spot on mate, I have seen him that many times as well going back the year before the WC. He has IT what ever IT is. SAF warned of a bloody Red summer of good servant’s. Like P. Nev and Nicky Butt.
June 15, 2011 at 03:42
Zibbie says:
@King Eric with much respect and no dish on Nani love his game. Sanchez had a good world cup even if he plays in an inferior league.
June 15, 2011 at 03:45
Zibbie says:
Could be Gill like Tapas or tapping ass? or passing gas. I like passing gas.
June 15, 2011 at 03:46
sachu says:
@zibbie
mate i dont know but everybody remember that park is above 30 like oshea and also has only 1year left in his contract
now thats a possibility nani valencia on right and young and sanchez on left
i dont count giggs as a winger these days
if fergie sells park then there is definetely space for sanchez
suppose if we get sanchez and sneijder WOW
June 15, 2011 at 03:47
Zibbie says:
O my good night all and what ever SAF does I will be so fucking happy for he gave us 19…….
Palms 20:4 all sign along….
June 15, 2011 at 03:48
Rai says:
Sachu – I haven’t heard the boss speak of Sanchez so I couldn’t comment on his admiration for him. For all we know they could just be reports. Until he says himself that he is interested in the player I wouldn’t read too much into it. We’re always linked with players and time and time again the manager surprises us by buying someone who we’ve never heard of or didn’t expect!!!
June 15, 2011 at 03:49
Zibbie says:
WOW, is right and we may be WOWED and how!!!!!!!
June 15, 2011 at 03:51
Rai says:
As for Park – no chance he’s staying with us.
June 15, 2011 at 03:52
sachu says:
@ZIBBIE
i dont iknow but since gill has flown to spain iam getting confident we will get him
barcelona only have 40-45 budget and they want rossi as there top target
and so they are trying toget sanchez on the cheap by offering bojan
well i think its either us or city
i dont hink sanchez will go to city
if he does the noisy neighbours willget realy noisy
June 15, 2011 at 03:52
Zibbie says:
Rai after the world cup when asked I remember a positive response. He responded after a widow of speculation.
June 15, 2011 at 03:54
Zibbie says:
Rai Park is awesome in Europe and some big BEPL games and sells a ton of kits in the East. He could be. Surprises ahead.
June 15, 2011 at 03:56
Zibbie says:
@sachu spot on mate, he’s not there for Tapas.
Even if it is just to cock block Chity and keep him from them, I’m all for it.
June 15, 2011 at 03:57
Zibbie says:
Peace Out…
June 15, 2011 at 03:58
sachu says:
@rai
mate fergie did say about sanchez a year ago that he could reach ronaldo level
i dont know whether he said that but there were quotes i am sure i read it
regarding park well iwas certain of oshea so i dont know
just remember park ha s only a year in his contract
if sanchez arrives and nani leaves then i have no doubt sneijder could come as well
sanchez is vaued at 30 million nani is definetely 25 -30 million
and inter seem to be in the hunt for a winger too so nani for sneijder is a strong possibility if we get sanchez
June 15, 2011 at 04:01
Rai says:
We’ll have to agree to disagree on this one fellas….
June 15, 2011 at 04:59
JC says:
I have a feeling we are offering Barca to ignore our matching clause on Rossi if Barca drop their pursuit of Sanchez, and he doesn’t want to go to Chity so no matter if they double our transfer offer I have the strong suspicion that he will be a Red.
June 15, 2011 at 05:53
rohan19 says:
United have now gone in hard and official for Sanchez – despite City sending a two-man delegation of Garry Cook and Brian Marwood to Italy over the past few days.

City were hoping to blow all of the other bidders out of the water with an offer, but they have been told again that Sanchez prefers to go to the red half of Manchester.

Boss Sir Alex Ferguson wants Sanchez as his next major capture, a race that sped up when Paul Scholes announced his retirement. United had been watching the exciting Udinese ace but really got serious as that vacancy appeared.

Sanchez is waiting on United and Udinese sorting out the fee. He is in Chile but has been given permission by his national team to fly off and sign for a new club before Copa America begins in July.

The gifted and speedy star wants to go to United as he believes he has a better chance of a game than he would at Barcelona who have been on his trail for weeks.

Barca failed to match Udinese’s asking price – despite offering cash and various player swaps – and they will now switch their search elsewhere with Arsenal’s Cesc Fabregas still high on their wish list.
June 15, 2011 at 06:02
Rai says:
Rohan 19 – Where did you copy and paste that from?
June 15, 2011 at 06:04
Kings says:
Breaking news: United seal double deal for Trevor Putney and Jason Dozzell. Fergie’s next transfer target is Chris Kiwomya. Exciting times ahead.
June 15, 2011 at 06:31
Rai says:
Kings – Quality mate!!! Although Peter Ndlovu is a good alternative…..
June 15, 2011 at 06:50
zino says:
Kings- lmao… Quality!

Tbh, i don’t think sir ryan will feature much this season (that is if he doesn’t call it a day) and neither do i rate him a winger anymore. So i don’t believe that the purchase of sanchez is the end of nani
June 15, 2011 at 07:20
Oeybrattli says:
Berba is so foooockin cool!! Love it!!
June 15, 2011 at 07:22
zino says:
http://footybunker.com/manchester-united-chiefs-on-whistle-stop-tour-to-seal-deals-worth-65m/4454
June 15, 2011 at 07:23
Balaji Sivaraman says:
@Kings, Big LOL!

Seriously, what is it with people who are saying Ryan Giggs will retire? Is something wrong with you all? You have no idea about his personal life. He hasn’t even come out and made a statement yet. You have no idea how his family is dealing with all the fucking attention in the press. Yet you all think he might call it a day just because of some stupid allegations in a media who have made their name for doing the same. Get a life.

Giggsy hasn’t been a winger for some time now. The purchase of Ashley Young, if it comes through, is to cover for the absence of left winger. Nani cannot play on the left and Valencia can only play on the right. So, Young covers up that issue.

As for Sanchez, let some official details trickle in, then we’ll start thinking about it. So far all we have is gossip in the British media and twitter. In the other two cases, we knew Sir Alex was interested but in this case we cannot be sure of that. Anyways, if Sir Alex deems it necessary, then I am sure he will do everything in his power to get his man.
June 15, 2011 at 07:26
Devil310 says:
you know what would be cool? If we buy sanchez and don’t buy young

Damn…that would be nice alright.

Can somebody please remind me why are we buying Young again?
June 15, 2011 at 07:29
Dazbomber says:
I just don’t understand where all this money is coming from.The Glaziers? spending up to 80 mill something is a miss it doesn’t sit right .Any one got any ideas
June 15, 2011 at 07:41
zino says:
@Devil- that’ll be cool only if we can un-sign young cos he’s as good as signed
June 15, 2011 at 07:52
sachu says:
@dazbomber
money has been there mate all the time
fergie is not stupid to overpay on everyone like shitty do for milner dzeko etc
fergie always has targets for example we made 30 million bids for villa and benzema
its not the glazers fault that the players dont want to come
yes we have not made marquee signings but we rarely do
fergie is willing to break the bank for players like veron berba benzema villa
and he is no willing to do it for dzeko milner balotelli
and it seems to me that sanchez is a player that fergie is willing to spend big
he is linked with us every day
so wat iam saying is as much as i hate the glazers i wont blame them for transfers
June 15, 2011 at 08:16
Dazbomber says:
sachu- if we get a top c m player As well it could take the spending to over 100 mill
June 15, 2011 at 08:24
zino says:
http://www.footylatest.com/man-utd-confident-of-beating-man-city-to-alexis-sanchez/22764
June 15, 2011 at 08:25
T4M says:
LOL twitpic.com/5bousb
June 15, 2011 at 08:33
sachu says:
@dazbomber
mate i dont think so
because we are going to sell as well
ithink if we get sanchez we will sell nani and if kiko stays as his agent said then berba will be sold i am sure that will be sold
following will be sold
wes gibbo oshea 12 million
kuzcak obertan diouf 9 million
nani 25-28 million
berba 12million
so we could raise 60 million
plus we have lost scholes hargo neville also so a massive clearing of wages
and we have bought de gea young jones 55 million
sanchez 30 million sniejder 40 million
so total is 125million maximum say 130 million
so net spend will be 70 million and we did spend close to 60 milion in 2007
so we have done it
clearing of wages suggest fergie is looking for a big fish
June 15, 2011 at 08:44
T4M says:
The signing of Sanchez makes signing young strange.Question Marks on Nani and Park’s futures.
June 15, 2011 at 08:48
Dazbomber says:
sachu- I agree , but I think some thing big is going to happen
June 15, 2011 at 08:49
sachu says:
@t4m
definetely mate
park has only a year in his contract
if sanchez comes and i think he will because fergie seems hell bent on getting him
then nani will be sold also with kiko and danny staying berba will be sold
those 2 sales can generate enough money for us to sign sneijder or anyother midfieder
thats direction i think its going
June 15, 2011 at 08:51
sachu says:
@dazbomber
well yeah signing sanchez and wesley could be huge business
OH HELL YEAH
June 15, 2011 at 08:51
T4M says:
Sachu …and we’ll become the first club to sell the PL top scorer and top assists.Selling park would be a big mistake.Selling Nani would be a pity.I know nani won’t finish at utd but we should sell him when his value has peaked.I’m very sure he’ll have a better next season.
June 15, 2011 at 08:59
T4M says:
This would definately mean Giggs stays in the Center permanently.I really hope we get the 2 CMs(scholes and hargo’s replacement).we should get De Rossi he’ll come on a cheap.
June 15, 2011 at 09:02
sachu says:
@T4M
i dont think park will be sold
sales of berba and nani will generate money for say sneijder
but thats if we can get sanchez and i think we will get him
well gill has gone to spain for it
i hope he gets sanchez and then flies to italy to get sneijder
sales of berba and nani will be hard to take as they played major parts in our 19th ttitle win but
there sales could limit the net spending to about 70-75 million
June 15, 2011 at 09:07
sachu says:
@t4m
MATE I THINK YOU ARE BECOMING GREEDY
you seem to want every one like me
June 15, 2011 at 09:08
andoooooooooo says:
I cant bear another season of Carrick and Fletcher in central midfield! Sort it out Fergie!
June 15, 2011 at 09:09
sachu says:
@t4m
mate berba going will be sad but i think macheda and welbeck have talent and can make up for his loss
well if we do sell berba and nani then i have tosay fergie realy is a ruthless manager and a great one
June 15, 2011 at 09:11
Jeet says:
Optimistically, it could be that SAF thinks of Nani/Valencia on the right and Young/Sanchez on the left. Park playing a central role, and coming on in highstakes matches where a more disciplined defensive approach is required.
Else, it’s probably curtains for Nani, which would be a huge shame.
Else, we are really not after Sanchez.
Else, we are after Sanchez, but not after Young.
Too many alternatives – we can only guess…
June 15, 2011 at 09:12
Passe says:
andoooooo, most of us can’t take another post from you.
June 15, 2011 at 09:15
Balaji Sivaraman says:
@Jeet, Not a Manchester United player until the fat lady sings.

Paper talk, twitter gossip, commenting on blogs is all fun for the people speculation but doesn’t have one iota of relevance on whether the player is coming or not.
June 15, 2011 at 09:16
Balaji Sivaraman says:
*people speculating*
June 15, 2011 at 09:19
dela says:
I haven’t been on RoM lately, but I’m glad I wasn’t. The Football Manager brigade seems to be out in full force. Sell Berba, sell Nani, sell half the team and spend half a billion on Sneijder, Sanchez and a dozen other players who are brilliant on FM. Sigh.

I think I’ll stay away from RoM until the Community Shield.
June 15, 2011 at 09:20
Jeet says:
@Balaji: yes, of course…same in any walk of life, or business….we have an old superstition in our family about not talking of any good news till its 100% done. E.g. we dont buy baby clothes till the delivery is done (when there is a mad scramble of aunts trying to get the best things ). I will always remember the day when a client of mine gave an email OK to what would have been the biggest deal for my company. I couldnt resist the temptation to forward it to my boss and I was the hero for a few days. As it turned out they had a reorg, and the new guys wanted to “move in a different direction”. Same reason why I never talk big before an important United game.
June 15, 2011 at 09:21
sachu says:
@jeet
mate we are after sanchez
i dont think every newspaper will get it wrong and young is done definetely as he is still the best left sided winger we can get
sanchez can play right left and behind striker but his favourite position is right sided winger
so if we get him then nai will go which would be a big shame yes but fergie knows best
also sales of nani and berba i think will generate money for say sneijder
i dont think park will be moved to midfield mate
you have made a good observation there but i think fergie wants ABSOLUTE QUALITY
June 15, 2011 at 09:22
Jeet says:
@Dela: funny, but I dont see anybody saying we should “sell Nani”…in fact, consensus seems to be that it would be s shame to let go of either him or Berbatov. People speculating about transfers is normal – I really dont understand why a lot of you need to be so militant about it.
June 15, 2011 at 09:25
Balaji Sivaraman says:
@Jeet, Sorry about the deal you missed, must’ve been followed by a few underwhelming days at work. Looks like you’ve learned it the hard way.

@dela, You can get back once pre-season starts (July) and you hear the fat lady (Sir Alex) sing. Once that happens, the Football Manager brigade will probably get back to playing their game. Real life transfer talk is only interesting as long as the real Football Manager is quiet.
June 15, 2011 at 09:28
Balaji Sivaraman says:
And, BTW, Before my last comment is mis-understood, I was making a case against people coming out with cut and dry comments like “I can’t stand another season of Fletcher and Carrick.” and so on. Not the actual transfer speculation regarding targets we are after. I personally don’t see a point in speculating about what Sir Alex is going to do but I don’t mind reading the speculation at all.
June 15, 2011 at 09:32
Dave Malaysia says:
@sachu @T4M @Dazbomber: How u doin?

About the money: suggest u go to redcafe and look up the thread on the club finances,it will give u an idea.

The club has thru its management and some luck (i.e ronaldos 80 mil) created a cash pile in the bank.
Also always remember that Manutd have strict financial rules it set for itself (before the glazers) and still follows. Add to the fact Gill and out finance guys are shrewd.

The last spending spree was financed by selling bout 6 players bringing in about 30 to 36 million pounds, this was contra to our spending in that similiar range.

The manner which the club manages the transfers ,is that theres is approx 30 m to spend a summer. Now after all thats happen we have a cash pile.

Fergie has said when the time comes with the scholes ,giggs retirement we will need to spend .

So it begins……….. .

Like I said earlier , our club manages the numbers well,not just how much we spend, it has to be spent wisely but also the number of players we have on our books need to be balanced.
That means with incoming ,theres outgoing.

But its teambuilding, Fergie is very particular about team ethics and club culture. So O’Shea ,Park are key players with the seniority, they stay. Nani is part of this team,he stays.Berba just showed us last season he stepped up,he stays at least for the next season.

And we need to be careful with this reports in the media, a lot of rubbish,sorting out the truth is like finding hayley Mcqueen in my bed.

when skysports or bbc say something like “they understand” then something is likely on track.
June 15, 2011 at 09:32
aimanunited says:
valencia, Nani, Young, Sanchez
all of them are very good wingers with different approach down the flank but all of them are starters and close from reaching their peak so they’ll be unwilling to come from bench most of the game.
We can only get Sanchez if we can guarantee his first XI status which Barca couldn’t and Sir Alex looks like he prefers Valencia over Nani.
If Nani wants to move then I think I can understand his reason although I hope It’ll never happen.
Moreover, to be used as a bargaining chip for other player is worse.
June 15, 2011 at 09:39
andoooooooooo says:
@Passe
How rude…Im only saying what everyone is thinking, otherwise why is everyone crying out for a CAM to be signed? If you dont like my opinion keep it to yourself next time.

You arent the moderator and i dont appricate comments like that directed at me.
June 15, 2011 at 09:40
Dave Malaysia says:
@Balaji: Agreed , wud be better if people just gave thier views on the carrick and fletcher or similiar situations without degrading them and using harsh cruel words.

These guys have done so much for our club. Picking just one instance, our huge 7-1 win over roma.

Our midfeild in that game was carrick-fletcher.
June 15, 2011 at 09:42
Rai says:
Sachu – you’re obsessed.
June 15, 2011 at 09:54
Rai says:
Andooooooo –

You can’t expect to criticise two of our players and expect no one to say anything. It was a stupid comment. Champions of England isn’t good enough for some people. So much talk about getting rid of our players or hoping they retire – it’s pathetic. Ungrateful.
June 15, 2011 at 09:58
Balaji Sivaraman says:
@andoooooooooo, I know Passe was also “only saying what everyone is thinking” when he said that. If you are going to come here and say “I can’t stand Carrick and Fletcher in mid-field” than you are going to be beaten down so hard. By principle, we don’t hate on our own players here especially when they have been as critical to our success over the past few seasons as those two have been.

@Dave, “So it begins.” Lord of the Rings reference, “And so it begins, the great battle of our times.”

One Man to Rule Them All
One Man to Find Them
One Man to Bring Them All
And in the lightness, bind them
In the Theatre of Dreams, where greatness lies
June 15, 2011 at 10:03
dela says:
@Jeet

‘I can’t stand another season of Carrick and Fletcher. Sort it out Fergie!’

Speculation?
June 15, 2011 at 10:10
Mr C says:
Berba is the most talented player in the Premiership bar none. It follows therefore that he has to remain a United player. There is room to accommodate Berba, Hernandez and Rooney in the starting lineup as Rooney has the talent and industry in his game to play behind the front two. Tired of all the sell Berba haters out there -its the midfield that needs sorting. Hopefully Fletch will be back fit and well after his summer break to give us more bite and industry. Every man and his dog has been linked with United so far but it might be better to try and bring through one or two of the kids. After all SAF proved that you win nothing with kids is bollocks as far as United is concerned.
June 15, 2011 at 10:12
Dave Malaysia says:
@Balaji: Gandalf = Fergie
June 15, 2011 at 10:16
GoatinaUnitedShirt says:
Bloody Indians everywhere, I blame the Karma Sutra, is that what they meant by Karma.
Only joking shitheads, Jewel of the crown and all that. lol.

Looking forward to this coming season I think Fergie is going to adopt the three winger system full time.
We’ve come to a stage where football has changed yet again and a great manager has to come up with a great system to beat the change. As did happen when defences where three in the middle, then the christmas tree, sweeper system, 4-5-1, 4-4-2, barca and their 4-3-3.
I reckon its going to be 4-1-1-3-1, HOWS THAT!
4 along the back as usual.
1 DM zonal coverage ala Carrick
1 Rooney not exactly in midfield but rather a center forward that comes into space to retrieve the ball and spearhead attacks in midfield, something even Berba can do.
3 Wingers all of which can chop and choose their possition, all with pace. Nani left right and center, Young left right and center, Valencia right and center, Giggs left right and center, Park left right and center and even Sanchez can play anywhere at the top.
4. Chico loan striker, the absolute No10 goal poaching machine, also Owen fits in. As will Wellbeck.

You could write this just as well as 4-1-3-1-1, but I wanted to show Rooneys importance in the set up and the importance of coming deep to get the ball and start up attacks.
How to beat Barca and their midfield, easy, take the battle to them, god no they are too good, the option, move the battle field.
June 15, 2011 at 10:20
Dave Malaysia says:
U know just to share a point, i had said this in the past.

Everytime we work on signing someone,we find out a lot about them during the process , on top of the homeworkwe have done.

And when it seems we missed a huge signing,after the dissapointment,time passes ,we find out it was a lucky miss.

Reference here to KarimBenzema.
June 15, 2011 at 10:28
0161-Jon says:
the definition of a ringer!
June 15, 2011 at 10:31
Jeet says:
Ahh, but then direct it at the specific guy, no, Dela? You mentioned Nani and I thought it must be two do with the dialog some of us were having re; Sanchez and Nani…

Having said that, I do believe that a lot of these unlikeable comments belong to 2 classes:
1. The supremely crude and vicious – e.g. there’s a cunt called “Carbangrick” that comes on here for the sole purpose of ranting against Carrick. They are the same guys who abused Gibbo on twitter
2. Some who say similar things to what many of us think, but are new/infrequent posters and not familiar with some of the forum ettiquette/values that we have informally built for ourselves – e.g. we criticize, but dont abuse.

I remember a new poster (Mr. C???) a few weeks back saying something like “our tactics were wrong for the CL final” and “we need to have a succession plan” for Fergie. I think he also said that Fergie was wrong to allow Rooney to hold the club to ransom and it would have a negative impact in the long run, as a precedent was being set. He was immediately denounced for being a “dipper cunt”, “knowing better than Fergie”, etc.etc. Sadly, I think i joined in. Later, it turned out he has been supporting the club for 40 yrs, and all he had really said was what he had said, i.e. we need to have a succession plan for Fergie. Pretty obvious, that, isnt it?

Frankly, as much as I am finding the abusive trolls tiresome, I am finding the vigilante, for want of a better word, just as bad these days. I like to call it as I see it, so if I think fergie got it wrong, I will say it, without losing an iota of respect for the great man. If I admire a player who plays for a rival club, I will say it. If I think we are being hypocrites to defend Giggsy and abuse DJ-beating StevieMe (both off-field incidents), I will say it, and defend my right to say it (my biggest defence of Giggsy would be that he is being considered guilty, till proved innocent, and not that it’s got nothing to do his football performance). If I think United should try and do something to take on Barca and the rest of Europe, I will say it. If I want to talk of transfer speculations, I do believe I have a right to do it on this blog. And I dont like being called a “barca obsessed cunt” for my pains, thank you very much. By that token, we could very well be called “ABU obsessed whatevers”, incidentally. There are some other things which I don’t like – a lot of posts about “argie cunts”, “Indian chicken farmers”, and similar racist-leaning comments. Political correctness is boring, but what is good, harmless banter in a pub or the terraces, is not always appropriate on a leading United forum like this. Sorry – but just the way I see things.

Sorry for the long rant – not directed at you, but at the current atmosphere on the blog that has been my love for the last three years. Sadly, I am also reaching a stage in my job where I wont be able to devote much time to defend a lot of what I just described as my stance. So, over a period of time, I am indeed afraid I will be reduced to just reading a lot of United news, and stop posting – its all moving in a direction I am not sure I am very comfortable with.

If you still have time, read this:

http://www.runofplay.com/2011/05/05/your-stupid-rage-2/
June 15, 2011 at 10:38
Dazbomber says:
Dave Malaysia-I am good Thanks what about you? These are exciting times I hope Sir Alex get who he wants , I think he has a cunning plan
June 15, 2011 at 10:39
peposhi says:
Hey, Scott, I’m sooo happy you’ve used the video link I’ve sent you! He-heee
we gotta love The Berb
June 15, 2011 at 10:47
Ash says:
Berba should stay.He is a Class player.Only a fool will hate him.
A bit off topic-I hope we don’t sell macheda.I have a feeling he will be a better striker than rossi.I still feel Rossi is a bit overrated and can’t understand Why Barca are signing him ?
June 15, 2011 at 10:56
sachu says:
@ash
mate berba should stay yes i hope does because i love him
but rooney chicho and owen are certain
i am sure bruce would hve already got sunderland if he was available
and kikos agent said 2 days ago we want him to stay and not loan him
so if rooney chicho owen welbeck macheda are staying
how can berba stay
i dont think any team needs six strikers
it will need a massive injury crisis for the sixth choice striker to get a chance
June 15, 2011 at 10:59
Dave Malaysia says:
@Dazbomber: I m ok, just trying to figure out why my bookmarks in favourites keep dissapearing.

@Jeet: Understand where ur coming from. Agree with most.

The arguement thats kids shud not have footballers as role models is an interesting one.I dont think parents have a choice. And i dont think the kids are copying thier off field antics en masse either.

For example if we sign De Gea, theres goin to be an explosion of kids wanting to play keeper and be that guy when playing in the schoolyard.

Giggs has inspired so many. Now when most have grown up,they know the difference with the off field stuff.
The famous Fergie going to his flat which he shared with Lee Sharpe for example. The 2 different paths they both took.

Now the good guy is turning out to be an awful decision maker of the field according to the media.
For me until some truth is actually confirmed im not getting into it.

But its true what u said , if any of its a truth , he deserves the critique.
June 15, 2011 at 11:16
Balaji Sivaraman says:
@Jeet, Most of the criticism is reserved for people who post baseless opinions with no reason at all. For example, Giles Oakley criticized Sir Alex’s decision of dropping Berbatov for the final. It was not a simple Fergie got it wrong, it was a long-winded post with a clear reasoning as to why he felt Sir Alex was wrong.

Now, I am not saying everyone on here needs to be as eloquent as Giles, denton davey or StatesideAussie. But you should at least try to get your opinion across in a manner that doesn’t make you seem as the enemy. You should especially put a lot more effort into the above if you know your opinion is not going to be popular like talking about Sir Alex’s successor.

I personally don’t like Nani’s character at all (not talking about his talent) and FITB has made the argument that Young is a better player than Nani. And neither of us can claim to be as thoughtful as the aforementioned 3, but we put a lot more effort into our posts than simply saying Nani should be sold. That is all I am asking for.

If you are asking other people to take time to read what you post, then you should at least put as much effort into writing it as is required in reading it. It doesn’t matter that you mean well if you can’t get your point across without antagonizing yourself.
June 15, 2011 at 11:36
parryheid says:
passe,

why would you hope someone doesn’t post their views on this site?Are you hoping the sites self appointed internet cops will recruit you into their ranks? It’s a forum man wise up
June 15, 2011 at 11:37
One two says:
@jeet..oh man that was fantastic post.the best for a long time.every single word u said is spot on.thanx for the post.
June 15, 2011 at 11:39
Balaji Sivaraman says:
@Jeet, Oh, and I agree with what you are trying to get at, my last post was more a generalization on why certain people are consistently beaten down because they don’t get their point across properly.
June 15, 2011 at 11:46
Ash says:
@sachu
Macheda will go out on loan to an english team.We will have 5 strikers
Rooney
Chicho
berba
welbeck
owen
Owen will not be a regular striker.And welbeck is more of a second striker and not an out and out striker.So in actual we willl have 3 pure strikers which includes berba.
Berba is 30 and can easily do well for another 2 to 3 years.I hope he retires as a united player.I am hoping he scores 100 goals for united.He has already score 47 goals so if he plays for another 3 seasons he could score 100 goals.
But whatever happens My love for berba will always stay.
June 15, 2011 at 12:16
Jeet says:
@Balaji: My point being that:
1. When someone says “fergie should step down because he has grown senile and is an old fart”, he should be have his bollocks cut off and fed to the pigs a la Snatch.
2. When someone gives an eloquent analysis of why fergie got it wrong, its of course, OK.
3. If someone posts a one liner “I think fergie did get it wrong yesterday”, at most he deserves, “I disagree, why do you think so?”

In a nutshell, just as people have an obligation to try and be reasoned/articulate (I agree with you there, but also believe that it’s something that people pick up over time), we also have an obligation to engage in dialog, and more so with new posters with divergent views, instead of routinely dishing them. That’s how dialogs, fora, groups, organizations, nations grow – through inclusiveness. The post I referred to – it was pretty well reasoned & non-abusive – it didnt deserve the reaction it got.

And think of it – if it hadnt been THE Giles Oakley but a first time poster who wrote that after May 28, dont you think there would have been at least one comment about how this guy “thinks he knows better than Fergie”? I would love to be wrong, but sadly, I do.
June 15, 2011 at 12:58
Lloyd™ says:
@Jeet

well done man,you said what’s in some of our minds.
June 15, 2011 at 13:19
Jeet says:
@Lloyd & One Two: thanks, I thought it needed saying. Without kissing my own ass, just my rotten luck that STR put up a new thread just when I was writing that
June 15, 2011 at 14:38
WHAT ??? says:
@ Jeet – just catching up on what been said

I agree mate – Its a good thing we don’t all agree on everything, otherwise we wouldn’t come on here in the first place. I think the weight of a persons opinion balances things out at the end of the day anyway. Like the example you made about Giles, I was MIA before and after the final so I missed his comment, but im sure it was as succinct as we’ve come to expect. But if a new poster shared the same views as Giles about the final, even if people had a go, it doesn’t matter mate, because if the new poster was half has lucid as Giles, the weight of his words would carry the day with whoever agreed with him. You can’t speak out against prevailing ideas AND expect popular agreement.

When I did leave my opinion on the final, I said in hindsight we should have had Anderson in the middle instead of Hernandez up top. Ando would have seen 100x more of the ball. Hernandez probably had 3 touches all game not including the offsides. Probably would have been the same with Berbatov. But Ando could have thrown his weight around and did a job where the majority of the game was played, the middle.

I was half expecting some form of criticism, didn’t get any mind, but if I did I wouldn’t have cared, because thats my fucking opinion im not typing for the hell of it. If I was challenged on it I could elaborate. So if you feel like United should be concentrating on beating Barca, and the majority of lads on here think thats obsessing, stick to your guns mate, because if you’ve made your point well, people who agree will agree, and if your views on that topic are worth anything at all, you’ll be proved right in the long run. Its all about opinions on here, and if your opinion is anything less than Canonical expect to be called a Heretic, but THAT shouldn’t bother you mate.

Also, I was having a laugh on here the other night with a couple others about the Chicken Farmers wanting 20 odd fucking million for Jones. There was no racist – leanings on my side mate, to me it was just calling a Dozy Chicken Farmer a “Dozy fucking Chicken Farmer”. What would be sad is if we’re all sitting here knowing full well those two twats are Comedy Gold but we can’t laugh about it for fear of offending some misinformed liberal. Racism is that Kid getting his head split open with an Axe in Liverpool because he had a white girlfriend. Or the Government leading people into thinking Asylum Seekers are robbing the country, when the truth is they contribute more than they take, by doing the SHITTY JOBS English people don’t want to do, and working off the books so the economy can run without paying those jobs the normal wages and English person would receive. Racism is a big word thats used to often for my liking.

But thats my point, I agree with you we should all speak our mind but I disagree about the Blackburn comments being racist, and thats how it works on here mate, we’re never gonna all agree all the time, but as long as we’re all speaking our minds it doesn’t matter.
June 15, 2011 at 14:58
Balaji Sivaraman says:
@Jeet and What??, Perfectly agree with both of you guys.

When Jeet said, “That’s how dialogs, fora, groups, organizations, nations grow – through inclusiveness”

That is exactly how I came to be a part of this wonderful community. I am by no means a veteran here but I feel opinion has been generally accepted. And I have criticized Nani when others have said he is the most important component of our team, so its not like I have always agreed with general opinion.

I also feel the regulars on here don’t always antagonize unless the person demands it with completely inane posts. However, I must put my hands up and say we all have been guilty of it from time to time. And we all could do with less of it certainly.

So, I think we can all agree then that bedding new members into the community by giving them a chance to explain themselves is the way to go about it.
June 15, 2011 at 14:59
smartalex says:
WHAT ??? at 14:38

The truth clearly stated, thank you.
June 15, 2011 at 15:06
Jeet says:
@WHAT???: Ohh, mate, I quite enjoyed the chicken jokes myself! I dont count then as racist at all – we Indians do it all the while, making jokes about the white expats who cant handle the traffic, and various communities within India! I don’t like comments like “The stupid Indian chicken farmers dont understand football!”.
And yes, when I do post, I do plan to stick to my guns. What I pointed out is that there is a lot of OTT reactions to divergent opinions which can put off new posters – and it need not be that way.
June 15, 2011 at 15:22
WHAT ??? says:
@SmartAlex – Cheers mate.

@Jeet
Easy mate, yeah it shouldn’t be that way but it is. Its all about passion and sometimes you just wanna tell somebody fuck off for saying something you disagree with, so new posters do get it in the neck sometimes, but they’ll live.

@Balaji
Exactly, I’ve read you say your not exactly crazy about Nani a couple times, while my stance on Nani is probably crystal clear by now, but that doesn’t mean we can’t agree on other things, and we do. That what makes RoM work.

Fuck me, we’re gonna have to all sit down crossed legged and sing Kumbaya after this.
June 15, 2011 at 15:25
smartalex says:
Jeet

How about divergent reactions to OTT opinions?
June 15, 2011 at 17:28
keano99 says:
Jeet its not being racist they are indian they are chicken farmers and they are stupid end of.
June 15, 2011 at 17:48
CedarsDevil says:
Jeet – I understand the essence of where you are coming from mate and also great responses by Balaji and WHAT???
June 15, 2011 at 18:50
Rai says:
What??!!

Gotta agree with you mate. I’m of Indian origin myself and if someone says “stupid fuckin Indian chicken farmers” – I have no reason to get offended. If someone said “I hope the Indian race gets burned alive” – (extreme example I know) then sure that’s racist!!

Name calling and actual hate for a race are different things. If I call someone a “fat bastard”, it doesn’t mean I’ll seek and destroy every fat cunt!! I had a brick smashed against my head a few years ago because someone wanted to go “paki bashing”…now that’s when you call start using words like racist!!

Sticks and stones lads…no need to create a fuss…
June 15, 2011 at 20:20
rohan19 says:
@ rai great post. like it..
off topic… there seem to be tons of people seemingly let down by giggs..
can’t understand this.. its personal. just lay off. footy players are human and they cannot all be idols..
actua;y very few of them can be considered so.. cut the guy some slack.. he’s done great things for our club.. post this on a city blog
June 15, 2011 at 23:21
WHAT ??? says:
@Rai – Easy Mate, bet them thick Cunts don’t go Politician bashing do they? Nah course not.
And I bet they don’t hunt alone. Fucking Cowards. But they’ll learn tho.
June 16, 2011 at 05:42
Rai says:
WHAT ???

Hello mate. Yeah they definately don’t hunt alone!!!!!! Fuckers!! It’s life though shit happens. I just don’t like people using the word racist at a drop of a hat. If people get that easily offended then maybe they should join the manutd.com forums where people can live in peace and harmony…..lol
June 16, 2011 at 10:48
Jeet says:
ahh…comeon, Rai & WHAT???, I didnt mean to say a lot of guys on here are actual swastika branding racists. To be fair, I remember a lot of criticism when some cunt asked Balaji to “keep to selling calling cards” or shit like that. And I agree, true racism is more dangerous and violent than banter on a blog. The trouble is – it starts with ignorance, prejudice and lazy stereotyping. To give an extreme example, Hitler didnt wake up one fine day and think of gassing the jews. It started with the sterotype that the jews were all evil misers, looting the country and controlling the economy. So, saying something like the “dagos are all cheating cunts” etc. makes me a bit uncomfortable. In the end, its about individual sensitivities – I recognize that. As I keep saying, living with a woman has made me a sensitive soul (and her, an insensitive hole ). And just to make the point that it’s all relative – someone can see that joke as being offensively sexist.
@Smartalex: I am all for divergence, so long as it’s not stupidly blinkered, arrogant or abusive.
@All who participated in this dialog: We retain our subtle points of difference, but I am happy we understand some of the margins. Thank you for hearing me out with patience – I do feel we have taken a small step towards making this an even better place for all Reds.
June 16, 2011 at 12:56
willierednut says:
Here come the RedNut, with his two pennies worth. While Jeet makes some valid points, I would have to ask why, there is a section on here, that get pissed off at 6/7 posters having a good rapport with each other? even if you’re new on Rom, why be worried at all? I don’t get that one. Now, Jeets point about being allowed to have an opinion, without being shouted at by all in sundry. That shouldn’t be the case. This blog should welcome all opinions, just as long, as it isn’t personal attacks on the manager, or the players. I’ll defend anyones right, to constructively criticize the staff and players. I’ve done it myself ffs. I love this for the open ended debates. It’s always fun. We get differing opinions on players and on other subjects. Back to the clique issue. I really don’t think it’s an issue at all. I for one, I’m never worried about voicing my opinion on the RoM. From the Rooney debate, to talk about Modric. We don’t always agree on those subjects. I won’t change my mind on Modric, because KE, or Costas don’t rate the lad. Fuck that, I stick to my principals.

Jeet is right in one aspect, we shouldn’t take the piss out of anyone, because their thoughts don’t concur with our own. As I’ve already said, I’ll defend anyones right to have an opinion on the republik. The flip side of that though, people shouldn’t worry about 6 or 7 of us, having a rapport with each other. What you have to understand is, we’ve been debating on here for a long time. We like each other, but don’t feel left out. Engage in the discussion. Don’t be a passenger.
June 16, 2011 at 13:48
Jeet says:
@Willie: Don’t want to be misunderstood – I have nothing against good friends on the blog. I actually believe I have a few of them as well, as far as online “friendships” go. I don’t think I mentioned anything against that either. My point was against something diametrically opposite – dismissing he “lone posters” out of hand.
June 16, 2011 at 13:59
willierednut says:
Jeet – I wasn’t brimming with friends, when I first posted on the Republik. You have to build that rapport over time. The problem with lone posters, as you put it, is we don’t know if they’re playing devils advocate, or looking to get a rise out of said people. For my part, I don’t really give a flying fuck if someone disagrees with my opinions. I didn’t come on here, to get a slap on the back(well done son) Na, I just wanted to hear and read other United fans thoughts on United. Sure, if my post gets a good response, that’s nice, but it ain’t the be all and end all for me.
June 16, 2011 at 14:18
willierednut says:
Jeet – I wasn’t saying, you had a problem with posters being friendly. I know I addressed you, but I was making a wider point. Sorry for any confusion.
June 17, 2011 at 01:09
Rai says:
Willie – I know what you mean mate. When I first posted on here (think 2007-2008) I think I was very unpopular with some of my opinions. I got loads of shit for my stance on the Glazers (as they had just forked out for Nani, Ando, Hargreaves, Tevez) and my continuous support for FC United. I was told to fuck off to a FC forum!!!! If people have an opinion there’s no need to shy away from it, you should have enough confidence in your view to express it and not worry what other people think!

Jeet – I don’t think anyone dismisses lone posters out of hand. I chat a lot of shit and people won’t reply (this probably won’t!!!) but it doesn’t mean I’ll stop posting. If I’m thinking it, I’ll post it. Simple as. No matter how unpopular. I don’t mind who I upset if I feel strongly about my point, whether it’s someone I get along with or if it’s STR…

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