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VIDEO: Berbatov & O’Shea Goals Against Stoke

Manchester United go top of the league after beating Stoke 2-0 away from home. Ryan Giggs grabbed both assists after coming on as a second half substitute, with Dimitar Berbatov and John O’Shea scoring.

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    Assiduity = hard working.
    A bit like the Devil, work has many different names to trick you.

  2. theboogeyman says:

    I re-read your post,Isaidso,and I just imagined how that would feel.He probably feels left out.But then he didn’t rape Fabregas and Gerrard in his 1st season.And it’s quite difficult to get a chant that rhymes with Nani.

  3. theboogeyman says:

    Thanks.Assiduity can be my word of the day.

  4. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    And i ask you to read he discripsion i wrote months ago

  5. Googoo56 says:

    Anyone have a .gif of that Scholesy pass to Giggs?
    Would be appreciated, thanks. :)

  6. Satz13 says:

    Love the way Berba points to Giggs and urges the crowd to cheer for him….Berba his biggest drawback is his price tag; But the fact that I dont see him expressing a wish or saying “I dream of playing in Spain one day ” makes me feel he will become a United legend one day



    Thats why we are a great club mate. All the fans are improving every week as well as the team.
    The only thing I can think of that rhymes with Nani is Fanny.
    You do know what a Fanny is dont you ?
    It is a bit like Torres only Girls usually have them. Some people call it a Benitez or a Tevez in Spanish.

  8. theboogeyman says:

    HAHAHA!!Nice one!!

    PS:Watching India play cricket is a bit like Nani.You never know which one is going to show up,the crap one or the ultra awesome one.

  9. KungFuKick says:

    AIG – GHTT- Isaidso
    Perfectly understand how you people feel about nani. Its sad that when you feel frustrated about a very promising player`s poor performances and when you criticise him, other`s like Isaidso consider you to be ‘Nani Haters’ and all these stupid names.
    Its not about hating a player who underperforms. Its about the frustration you feel when such a promising and very talented player fails to thrive on a very good first season.
    You cant compare Fletcher with nani.
    We could afford to be patient ,in fact we had to be very very patient with Fletch because we had world class midfielders in Scholes, Carrick,Hargo and Keane previously!!
    We DO NOT have such a talented pool of left wingers where nani can afford to have an ‘off-day’. We are indeed very lucky to have Giggsy who is still able to make the difference when it really matters.
    Imagine Giggs out for 3 weeks in December(Pray to God this doesn`t happen) and nani fails to perform to the best of his ability. What will happen???
    We rely heavily on wingers and our wingers need to be there whenever we need them.
    Did you guys notice how Rooney was pissed off with Nani?

  10. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    thank you
    im not hating the guy i just know he can do better
    supporting nani as a united supporter i can imagine what liverpool fans feel like supporting there team the last 20 years
    Liverpool coulda won the league last year
    the could win it this year
    but they didnt
    and they wont

  11. theboogeyman says:

    Again,I maintain:In 2004-2005,we had Keano till December,Scholes,and Alan Smith,Kieran Richardson,Liam Miller and Djemba x2 as back up.

  12. Long John O'Shea says:

    Top of the league….. Fair Play!!!!!!

  13. andsolskjærhaswonit... says:

    Isaidso, Barcelona lol, easy mate.
    Every single one of us including u and me want to see Nani do well. He has the ingridients to be a superstar, hes at the rite club under the best manager but what he don’t have is a footballing brain, his decision making is awful at time.

    King Eric, yeah noticed that mate Rooney was rightly pissed off with Nani which further proves my point. ;)

  14. manutdchampions2008 says:

    look at berbatov who gets praised for doing so little, yes he scored but he did not exactly look like a 30 million pound player. I mean 2 goals scored in 7 or 8 games.

  15. Gudjohnsen says:

    Ryan Giggs – 5 assists in 2 games? And only played a part of the second half today…

    That guy is a living legend, amazing!


    Yeah, Rooney was seriously Fucked Off with Nani.
    When Wayne Rooney has a bigger brain than you – even if it is only a football brain- then you really need to sharpen up the synapses.

  17. andsolskjærhaswonit... says:

    Gudjohnsen mate, Giggsy has 7 assists n a Goal in the last 4 premier league games.

    GHTT, luvd what ya said a couple of days back mate,
    ‘i’m not a Nani hater but he is a human frustrater’ lol.
    Quality mate.

  18. theboogeyman says:

    Right guys,it’s 12:15,I’m off to sleep,I’ll see you tomorrow.

    Good night!


    Good Night Boogeyman – Sleep well our team is top of the League.
    “Today was a good day” – Ice Cube

  20. Isaidso says:

    Kungfukick – But Nani isn’t a left winger – HE IS RIGHT FOOTED, and came to us as RMF. So he is not left footed, and that is what slows him down, that he has to keep pulling the ball back onto his right foot to cross. The season he got all the assists – he was playing on the right (1st season with us.)

  21. Isaidso says:

    Rooney had no cause to be fucked off with Nani or anybody today – because Rooney couldn’t pass the ball and find a player in our team with it. All his passes short or too long. So his contribution was just as bad as anybody he wanted to shout at. Just glad Rooney is not Captain of United like he wants to be, because players around him need encouragement and not a bollocking every time Rooney has a poor game.

  22. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    no reply for my chant message
    thats alright i wouldnt like toadmit to been wrong either
    im right 99% of the time
    its the other 2 % people remember

  23. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    thats what made keano such a fantastic captain
    the pats on the backs and the chin up smile
    instead of shouting at the player that did wrong

  24. aig alex is god says:

    nearly 1am.good night everyone.happy tonight that we are top of the league.hope we stay there till the end.

  25. JD says:

    there is just something about nani okay.
    I missed alot of the first half unfortunately and saw some mixed things but plenty of possession, some decent moves by Nani but no killer ending

    2nd half, started watching and he had a bad 10 minutes and Giggs came on…

    what happens next? 2 minutes the lad’s on the pitch and he does something Nani never does, the simple stuff which makes the difference. Finds space, uses it intelligently and we are 1-0 up.

    We can all pat nani on the back for his work but we will still write about him the way we do until he shuts us up, not you Isaidso. Theres no point defending now when theres clearly better alternatives to field instead of him, I’ll gladly shut up when he gets higher up the pecking order.

  26. JD says:

    an notice no ones suggesting that we buy a replacement for him, just that with what we got we can do better until he is that man.

  27. Isaidso says:

    TinyTears – it was shouting at players that was the undoing of Keano in the end. Also he didn’t need to shout at most of the players he was playing with, because they were HIS equals, and some were better than him! He admitted that himself.

  28. Isaidso says:

    Jd, see that’s the trouble isn’t it? Giggsy has had years of that thing called EXPERIENCE – YEARS OF IT, although that probably escapes you right, when you talking about a player who has played half of his first season, hardly any games in his second season, and only just got started in his 3rd season and the snipers are out! Tell me how many seasons has Giggsy been playing then mate. Yet you want to compare Nani to him – most unfair and stupid I’d say. But I’m not telling you what to do, any of you, I am just telling you what you are, and if you don’t like it, then you don’t have to answer my posts. Just leave it alone, that’s fine!

  29. Isaidso says:

    andsolskjaerhaswonit – so you are not up to date then with United news. It was all over the media, and Nani was interviewed during the run up to the internationals whilst in Portugal, and they asked about Barca wanting to sign him, and Nani said on live tv that he knew about that, but would stay at United for time being. Barca NEVER denied wanting to sign him, and neither did the Spanish media – which there is always a quick denial if something is not true. Nani would not confirm on TV if it wasn’t true and make an idiot of himself now – would he?

  30. thedevil85 says:

    glad to be sitting where we deserve to be – ON TOP, kicked right on after early defeat, looking back from now it was maybe a good thing! starting to kick into gear now,wolfsburg will be a test but keep nemanja on grafite all nite and shud get comfortable win, hope foster keeps clean sheet as today, even tho he didnt have to fuck all but all confidence coz without that hel be more shaky than he already is. top of league any way so FUCK THE DOUBTERS!!!!HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  31. JD says:

    Isaidso thats bull reasoning, I mentioned Giggs because it only took him 2 minutes to better Nani’s performances. Just because he’s at 36 u dismiss that argument? great talking with ya… when you call us unsupportive then your just being an idiot, ignoring actual points raised and just saying “wait and see i was right with fletch i’ll b right with nani!”
    What your saying is that he’s ready to play now and THAT my friend is idiotic.
    well I was very against Nani last season and so was SAF, he admitted himself that Nani is slower to Mature than Ronaldo was. Has he matured yet? not on this evidence, but theres definitely potential it’s just a matter of “will it wont it, or will it too late” when u have others sitting behind him in the likes of Tosic and Oberton who can play either side.

  32. JD says:

    theedvil, grafite is immense, he’ll take Vidic in a 1on1 just hope that never happens.

  33. Kevin says:

    When I saw Berba’s celebration I knew everyone would jump on Nani’s back. He needs games for it all to begin to click. Ronaldo needed games for it all begin to tick. He needs a consecutive run of games but he has to earn it. He seems to think to much on the ball rather then just play. He could and proabably should have made better decisions on the ball but comparing him to Giggs or Ronaldo is crazy. He isn’t them and he might not reach those same heights but he isn’t crap. He could become a great but it takes time. He is still young and the jury is still out. Giggs came on and was fantastic. If he had played poorly Nani would not have looked so bad. We have some talented young players that can play on the left so he needs to pick it up soon or he will surely find the door in favor of giving the youth a chance.

    JD you summed it up well and agree with a lot of your final points. But I do think it is unfair to compare him to Giggs. Giggs is a legend. If Nani is able to have 3/4 of his career he could be good for United. He does need to start showing the goods as you pointed out though.

  34. ManU says:

    Giggs is in top form and so did Fletcher but their form will slow down when injuries happen and MU needed someone to replace them. As for players who should rightfully retire Scholes and Gary have got no impact or sting anymore.Replacement for them are already available with players like Hargreves,Johnny Evans,Rafeal and Fabio and MU dont need the service of John Oshea also because he is the worst player MU ever had and should be shown the exit door.Why did Fergi sold off Gerard Pique instead of Oshea and that is the worst mistakes he did during his career at OT.Its Fergi stupidity and Barse gain as what they said…….. Vellncia and Nani are not as good as Giggs and need more exposure and experience.The player that has got Giggs potentials is David Silva and has admitted he wish join MU.

  35. andsolskjærhaswonit... says:

    Isaidso, i am aware of that ‘Nani to Barcelona’ thing, it was just in the Telegraph n Nani did came out and pledge his future to us but c’mon don’t make me laugh there was nothing serious about it, u dön’t belive everything the media shows u.
    There were rumors of Scholesy to Stoke, did ya belive that.? No. Stoke also denied making any sort of approach. It was all bullshit just like it was in the case of Nani.
    I do have my reservations over him n Valencia but i’m willing to give them ample time.

  36. Isaidso says:

    Andsolskjaerhaswonit – do me a favour mate and read my post comments properly before you respond. It was in more than one paper, AND as I told you, I heard the Nani interview where he HIMSELF came out and said he knew of the Barca interest and wanting him. So if a player comes out and says that (especially a United player in fear of SAF wrath if he is speaking untruth) then yes I do believe the PLAYER. Surely he should know what he has been offered! Anyway, you just go and enjoy your partying with all the others in your Nani is shit club!

  37. MUFC the Religion says:

    Obertan. Apparently he can play both wings and has awesome pace. If he really is a speed merchant, we could have sorted out a lot of “problems”.

  38. Isaidso says:

    Jd it’s VERY OBVIOUS reading your posts that you are STILL VERY AGAINST Nani this season, not just last. If you want to respond to me posts please don’t misinterpret them. I didn’t say anything about Giggsy’s age, I talked about Giggsy’s years of experience, and I am certainly not wrong there. Giggsy started playing at 17 years old, and he is 35 now. So he has 18 years experience on Nani and of playing with the very top players. That’s why I said it was unfair to compare Nani with Giggsy, considering the few games Nani has played for us in two seasons. You need to stop calling people idiots as well because they DONT AGREE WITH YOU. I will never agree about Nani, because I do think he has a lot to give and needs his confidence built up, not torn down.

  39. Isaidso says:

    MUFCthereligion – yeah mate, but Obertan has a history in France of being very injury prone. So it will all depend whether he is fit and stays fit!

  40. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    still no reply to the chant

  41. King Eric says:

    ManU – PLEASE Fuck Off. O’Shea got the decisive goal yesterday and Scholes was probably the best player on the pitch. Muppet.

  42. cantona7 says:

    hi all
    we won 2-0 and most of the comments are negative on Nani.. that’s all i want to say, hope everybody gets my point.

  43. James says:

    Giggs well done you reds are …

  44. Isaidso says:

    Tinytears – No reply to the chant, but if that’s your little girl, she is just so cute. Bless her! She can sing too.

  45. Darius C says:

    Whats this shite Tevez and Zabeleta are spewing now? How United fans arent genuine? I hope in the return match someone sorts out this arrogant bastard once and for all!!!!

    Tevez I had respect for you, but you are a fool…….. HOW DARE YOU!!!!

  46. Gotta hate tiny tears says:

    thank you for those words about my daughter
    but ya cant say i dont support nani
    or over look him when chants come up

  47. Isaidso says:

    Tiny tears – Well I just got a new born daughter, and I am a novice to Fatherhood lol! I won’t call you a Nani hater then – that’s fine. You seem to be the Numero Uno chant composer though – so keep up the good work!

  48. theboogeyman says:

    Congrats,Isaidso!!Bringing her up as a full-fledged United fan,I hope?

  49. Isaidso says:

    Boogeyman – you can bet on it. I will make sure she is Man Utd fan thru and thru!


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