VIDEO: Chicharito and Evans’ Goals vs Braga

October 23, 2012 52 Comments

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October 23, 2012 at 22:48
MEXICO is RED says:
Give him more minutes! Chicharito great game.
October 23, 2012 at 22:57
Redbilly says:
One of pea’s best performances. He seems to have nailed the offside problem . Probably could have had three I the linesman had not incorrectly flagged him. Great performance pea.
October 23, 2012 at 23:02
Seanzo42 says:
Pretty horrid linesmen tonight. Always odd to see the Ref have a really decent game, and linesman not being able to get offsides right. its not like I had the advantage of super slow motion or anything.
October 23, 2012 at 23:02
FletchTHEMAN says:
Great fight back…. Heart attack of a defense. United way?!

Anyone know what the “C” like gesture from Chicharito is all about?

Is it just his name? Sometimes he does it an then thumps his heart.
October 23, 2012 at 23:05
Seanzo42 says:
FletchTHEMAN

I believe someone in the last thread mentioned that it was a shout out to his Sister whos name is… shit, anyhow started with a C.
October 23, 2012 at 23:06
FletchTHEMAN says:
Redbilly and Seanzo42 Cheers mates. Thought the Ref was shocking as well. No spine.
But the Lino had a mare. I guess we should be pleased he didn’t pull back Chicharitos first or we might never have clawed our way back.

Chicharito was class, MOTM. Cleverley a close second. Büttner lucky to come out with his skin TBF.

Bring on the Chavs.
October 23, 2012 at 23:08
Chicho the Lesbo says:
The “C” is for his sister. I think her names starts with a “C”, if i remember correctly.
October 23, 2012 at 23:12
Costas says:
Hernandez is back in style. The imrpovement in his all around game this season has been evident.

But goal of the night definitely goes to Jonny. Silky.
October 23, 2012 at 23:14
Seanzo42 says:
Jonny is class. To give the braga defenders a chance by purposely whiffing on the cross, dynamite.

Seriously though, loving Hernandez right now, although not as much as my new man(boy?) crush Rafael.
October 23, 2012 at 23:15
ididnotzeeit says:
@ Fletch

“Lucky to come out with his skin…”

Would it be fair to say he was “blooded” then? Haha Nothing like a welcome to Champion’s League trial by fire. I’m pretty sure he said to himself at 15 minutes “well this isn’t Wigan or Newcastle.”

He’s raw but he seems to have a bit of fight and competitivesness in him. He’s 3 for 3 for what it’s worth.
October 23, 2012 at 23:17
ididnotzeeit says:
Loved the goaling leaping to save Johnny’s bullet!!
October 23, 2012 at 23:23
wayne says:
Every game fucking entertaining shit,lads are turning into real crowd pleasers,spot the cunts a couple of goals just to make it fair lol
October 23, 2012 at 23:32
samuel - united WE stand says:
Sloppy goals continiously conceded have to be cut out, i think a lack of authority and responsibility at times from defenders from united is costing united. I think this deficiency can be worked on, we have to sharp our focus and concentration. Carrick, apart from being easily turned and ran past, had a solid perform ance of intercepting, reading the game and bringing the ball out but let’s be honest, he’s no expert centre back, the sooner some of our defenders get fit, the better. It’s very basic minded to call him “shit” though, because for every rooney, you need a carrick knitting things together.

I want to give a massive shout out to hernandez, he exhibited the hunger and drive which is borne out of knowing chances for him is rare and competition is fierce up front. Ran the defenders ragged, sublime movement, ran the channels, improved on his all round play and his finishing was typical. When he plays like that, the other strikers will know they can’t slack off, hope he keeps improving.

Fletcher was efficient as ever, gradually looking back to his best. Never going to bomb up and down but he’ll sit and solidify in front of his back line. His passing were crisp and accurate, could play a big part this season.

Rafael, again was superb. Does not give anyone coming down that right a breathing space and equally, he bombs up and down supporting. His positioning, reading of the game and tackling has improved. Developing into a top class full back.

Buttner is still rough and too eager with his play. His positioning needs to improve but the talent is there. Works hard and is very determined but hope can improve, not ready to displace evra but he’s not that far off.

Van persie was van persie. Holds up play, great first touch and control, fantastic movement, very good passing, skillful and inventive. A pure dutch artist of a footballer plus a constant goal threat. That 24mill is looking well spent for,a ready made world class player. For all his ability, he does work very hard.

Rooney was industrious. Always part of the key moves. Creative force and looks sharper every game. He and RVP are on the same wavelenght, two world class players. Hope to keep seeing good things from wayne.

Kagawa was disappointing in my opinion. Maybe he was carrying an injury i don’t know but he showed that moment of class that can decide games with that assist, he’ll get better though hopefully, still adapting to our style. Fergie said he twisted something, hopefully he’s fit for chelsea clash.

Nani gets a lot of stick. Some fairly but some vastly exaggerated. He came on and added that potency and drive needed. He does try to over complicate things at times but he was inventive (watch his combination play with cleverley and then a crafty pass to van persie. He can still be a top class player, if only some aren’t hasty to get rid.

Cleverley was good but i’m looking for him to be better. Energetic all night but he does tend to look like a rabbit in headlights in tight spots on the pitch. His passing as ever was short and forward thinking but he needs that something extra to be a top player, whethet he has it on him, time will tell.

generally, another mixed bag game. Hate the fact we’re making things difficult with sloppy defending. Really need to eradicate that bad habit because against top teams, in the the premiet league and champions league like chelsea comingup,it will be a tough task. Need to improve and work harder defensively but going forward, we’re playing superb free flowing football not seen for a while but got to get the othet side of the game right, stop leaking goals.
October 23, 2012 at 23:54
redangel says:
Ferguson’s pre match chat:

fuck the defense. Just outscore them!
October 24, 2012 at 00:01
WeAreUnited says:
Chicharito the man. So humble and diplomatic

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Oct/javier-chicharito-hernandez-says-he-has-nothing-to-prove.aspx

btw, the pass to his second goal by Clevs, was simply a memory from the past. David beckham esque.
Related to your comment SAMUEL, Clevs is bringing his game on, but I aagree with you, that he needs to put an extra shift to become the best,

and at the moment I believe that with those assists and goals, he is slowly doing so.
October 24, 2012 at 00:21
Den says:
That cross from Cleverley as good as they get! Thought he played very well as usual these days! Kagawa played poorly for most of the first half but he did get an assist and could have had two if not for the linesman. He can produce when given space so I hope he’ll be fit for Chelski!

Nice game by Hernandez, hope to see him start against Chelski also, they can’t handle him!
October 24, 2012 at 00:37
Den says:
Also I see many fans using Hernandezs performance to bash Welbeck, on every site. It’s incredibly annoying that people can’t see that they have different qualities and use ones performance to bash the other one. They’re both good forwards and both united players so just support them! Don’t understand the hate!
October 24, 2012 at 03:15
Adeez says:
again today the importance of headers in big games especially with the players we have
October 24, 2012 at 04:31
Marq says:
Hernandez could easily have scored a hattrick if not for two incorrect calls by the linesman when he was through on goal. Best game from him for a while now. What Chelsea, Arsenal & Liverpool would give for a player like him, and he is our 3rd/4th choice striker! Goes to show our strength of choices

Special mention to the cross by Cleverley, as good as you can get, even Beckham would be proud of that. I remember Clev hitting a cross like that before, can’t remember when, but if he is capable of a cross like that, he would probably be quite a decent freekick taker. As it is now, Rvp is the only direct freekick threat we have, even though Rooney has shown glimpse of it
October 24, 2012 at 04:49
Doghouse says:
Saw a new side of Chich tonight. He was great, really got into and about the opposing defence, timed his runs better than he got credit for from the linesman, took his chances with deadly aplomb. He looked superb. Playing Rooney, RvP and the Chich, that’s proper fucking potency up front. Shame Kagawa took a knock, he was great too, very creative, really hard for them to pin down.

Happy for Evans too. He’s always looked sharp in front of goal, has had a knack for bringing the best out of keepers for a long time. Now he’s getting that bit of luck. Hard to say he took his goal well, given the first try was an air shot, but very quick feet to recover from that and tuck it away. With the firepower we have from the corners he picked a good time to grow into a goal threat.
October 24, 2012 at 04:49
Ash says:
Really happy for hernandez. Boy is real class. Should have stayed on.I can bet if he gets regular game time he will score 20+ goals every season. I am really glad we have got 4 strikers. It is just matter of time before all of them starts to score on regular basis.

Cleverly was great. He gave his 100%. He defended well and his passing was great. He has to start against Chelsea.No excuses. He is our best central midfielder currently. He has to start.

Carrick should not have started at CB. Wooton or M.keane should have started. I saw someone say their confidence would have dented if they had conceded 2 early goals like yesterday. I say you cannnot learn unless you play regularly. Wooton is 21 so he either is good or not. Also it was quite surprising that neither of them were in the bench also. They should have been given some time atleast. I hope we seal the group satge and let youngsters play some game. Youngsters need to play. Period

Overall quite happy that we got 3 points. We need to tighten our defense. Don’t want another 6-1 this season. Let us keep on scoring 3-4 goals every game without conceding silly goals.
October 24, 2012 at 05:12
chicha chicha says:
Chicharito is the master of the 6-yard area. And his speed of turn leaves defenders gasping.
4 great strikers in our side allows Sir Alex to switch around against different teams.
October 24, 2012 at 05:56
The One says:
Costas,

….But goal of the night definitely goes to Jonny. Silky….hahaha!!!
October 24, 2012 at 06:30
mig78 says:
Ash, Regarding Carrick starting at CB, it could just be the case of SAF do not want 2 rookies at the back four with the other one is Buttner. This was also pointed out by somebody in the previous thread.

The line-up of rafael, wooton, evans and buttner would be too inexperienced and add DeGea in there we might be exposed beyond repair. It was an OK gamble in a league cup game but a definite no-go for CL matches.
Carrick’s experience was needed. But then he wasn’t a natural CB so that backfired, luckily the whole team regrouped and with our lethal strikeforce the damage was fixed.

Samuel, good analysis mate. Completely agree with Carrick. After the 2nd goal, he woke up and held on brilliantly till the end. Some of his intercept in the danger area was excellent.
Fletcher was superb too but he was obviously tired past the 70th minutes. Chicarito MOTM for me. Pushing for a regular starting place for sure.
We’re definitely developing a fear factor with our goal threat. If only we can keep things tight at the back.
October 24, 2012 at 06:50
Red Robin says:
Well done Chicharito!

Great determination by the mexican. I like his spirit.

Only thing has been proved last night: Carrick is not a central defender and should never play him there again. Why didn’t we throw our youngsters out last night? We have Wootton and Keane. I think them, as proper central defenders, would have been done proper job than Carrick.
October 24, 2012 at 06:52
Ash says:
mig78

You have a point but it never works out that way. It didn’t work out last year against blackburn where we played rafael and park in midfield. It didn’t work out against fulham where we lost badly some season ago. That day we played carrick and fletch in defence. You have to take gambles. I remember when evans started in defence at stamford bridge 4 seasons ago. He did quite well. Youngsters can only learn that way Rafael started at emirates where he scored also. No point playing a midfielder in defence or a defender in midfield. Honestly it never worked and it will never work in future also.
Wooton or keane had the opportunity to play. as we were short of defenders so it was right time to start with them. If all goes well then by end of november all of our defenders would be fit then chances of wooton or keane featuring will be very less.
October 24, 2012 at 07:11
Bobby Charlton's combover says:
I don’t blame Carrick for the first goal, ok he got turned and looked like a chump but it was a great bit of skill from the forward and it happens now and then. The defence though needs to be a bit more agressive and attack the ball when it comes into our box. We’re a bit standoffish and tend to react rather than be proactive to balls into the box.
October 24, 2012 at 07:12
theredderdevil says:
This was like a thriller.
But unlike movies this is real life and so conceding early on so that you can put up a winning and heroic performance is not the way to go. My Conclusions from that game;
- Don’t play carrick ever again in defense, please try the young ones in that position.
-Chicha has improved immensly and the boss should figure out how to rotate him with welbeck. Chicha is a finisher to boot, welbeck on the other hand is best at his all round game but will squander 15 chances to get a goal.
-Sorry to say this but potential and talent that hasn’t matured in 4 years is equivalent to zero and so i think mr Nani’s time at old trafford is up. Like someone noted earlier, an injured and limping kagawa had more to his game than the fit Nani.
- Lastly i think we better play the two formations in every game, begin with the diamond then change to 4 4 2 to add pace and a different dimension through wingers
October 24, 2012 at 07:31
Redbilly says:
Butner no doubt the unfinished article at the moment and last night was an eye opener for the lad, pressure and all. What I like about him is he’s a tough player, yes he needs to watch out for mistakes but he has real cure in his belly. He’s a scrapper and I like that. If he makes it and matures with us he could be a tough lad to have on our side . Hope he makes the grade.
October 24, 2012 at 07:36
calebkzh says:
Loved Hernandez’s fighting spirit. Shortly before we pulled ahead, there was a moment where he was cornered on the byline by two defenders. He showed real drive to wiggle out of that situation, and then deliver a fantastic curling through ball with the outside of his foot to Nani. Pity that chance was saved, but it’s exciting to see him evolve from the old Chicharito who only camped on the shoulder of the last center half.
October 24, 2012 at 07:41
calebkzh says:
By the way, I can’t express enough how rubbish the linesmen were last night.

Kagawa’s square back to Chicharito was definitely onside; the replays show that Kagawa timed his run to perfection, and Hernandez was behind him, so he’s definitely not the one caught off either.

Some pretty desperate defending by
October 24, 2012 at 07:41
calebkzh says:
By the way, I can’t express enough how rubbish the linesmen were last night.

Kagawa’s square back to Chicharito was definitely onside; the replays show that Kagawa timed his run to perfection, and Hernandez was behind him, so he’s definitely not the one caught off either.

Some pretty desperate defending by Braga too, appealing for offside whenever they could, even though our strikers timed their runs.
October 24, 2012 at 08:10
Costas says:
5 goals from corner kicks this season. That’s probably more than the amount of goals we’ve scored from corners in the last 10 years…
October 24, 2012 at 08:24
Olesrightfoot says:
There is a very real chance we won’t win anything this season but frankly I couldn’t care less. Since 2008 we’ve been treated to league titles and European Cup finals playing a brand of football which is the antithesis to the United way. Turgid, laboured and untterly uninspiring, I’ve been bored to be honest. Last season’s early flurry gave us a glimpse of what could be but was soon replaced after the 1-6 with the functional approach. However this is “not” a dig because things take time and it’s not about this season or the previous 4 it’s about 2013 onwards. This is when the “Rome” lesson will have fibnally been learned. That glimpse last season when went nap and the recent games of this season are hopefully a sign of the United to come. A dynamic midfield that appears narrow in set up but is actually anything but in realit. Intricate interplay and mesmeric movement off the ball is what we’ve started to see. The fact we’re leaving the back four isolated at times and we have a changing goalkeeper scenario doesn’t help matters but returning personnel and time will sort that out. In other words f*ck it. I’d much rather see us playing the way we used to (albeit through a different approach) and hitting some road bumps along the way than the previous offering. A key purchase or two in the summer is neccessary but by then the young element in the team should be fulfilling potential and the time it takes to change style/system should have arrived. I’ve enjoyed the last 4 games more than I’ve enjoyed most of the last 4 seasons but maybe it’s because I’ve reached 40 and I’m a miserbale c*nt!
October 24, 2012 at 08:27
FletchTHEMAN says:
Ok here is what I have on Chicharito’s Goal Celebrations:

“C” is for “Chimol” Javier’s nickname for his little sister (Ana).
So the Dad is Chícharo (Pea)
Son is Chicharito (Lil’ Pea)
Sister is Chimol (Salsa)

Couldn’t make it up if I tried
October 24, 2012 at 08:59
bounce says:
Personally, I’m beginning to like going behind in games. This brings the best out of us. Our games are actually really exciting to watch. For a long long time it has been dire. We would score one or two then we’d switch off or sit back. This allowed other teams to get back in the game, many times we would end up conceding wich resulted in a draw or a defeat. On another note, the little pea was really up for it lastnite, I hope he continues with that form,it reminded me of his first season. I’m sorry but bringing on giggs lastnite made me nervous. He’s a legend of a man,but I think he should call an end to his glittering career. I think the boss is keeping him there for his influence in the dressing room mostly, and maybe a few records. Like playing the most games ever.
October 24, 2012 at 09:02
bbqbod says:
Little Pea had a blinder. Showed massive determination. aggression, skills – well he had it all didn’t he last night. Very happy for him.

We were robbed by the linesman on two occasions.

Wish SAF would try out some of our young defenders in stead of Carrick back there but SAF knows best.
October 24, 2012 at 09:56
meatnpotato says:
for chelsea why not

ddg

rafa ferdy evans evra

anderson cleverley

rooney rvp nani

chicha

nani and chicharito always seem to have good games against chelsk and i think nani deserves more of a chance this season to find some form and chicha deserves it after last night (if hernandez doesn’t get some recognition from the manager after last night then i dont know what will)
October 24, 2012 at 10:20
slayer says:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1199768/man-united's-alex-ferguson-states-he-is-flabbergasted-by-defence?cc=4716

If Ferguson has no answer to our defense woes, then what solution does United have? Can we keep fighting from behind and conceding goals at the same time?
October 24, 2012 at 10:27
samuel - united WE stand says:
People bang on about youth centrr backs. Who’s to say they wouldn’t have been made to look foolish by the experienced alan and eder? This is the champions league, real football not EA sport’s fifa game. As much carrick isn’t an expert centre back, his experience carried him through.
October 24, 2012 at 10:34
The One says:
Don’t blame the defence alone. We’ve been too casual in our approach to games, in pre-season mode when we start games most of the time. Go back and watch some of the matches, especially the ones where we lost and you’ll see what I mean.
October 24, 2012 at 10:43
samuel - united WE stand says:
Olesrightfoot – bit too early to describe who will anything but i agree, we’re playing free flowing inventive football. No playing in strenght lines or rigidity, which makes it difficult for opponents to mark the attacking play. Don’t think the gung-ho style is sustainable though, the defensive side has to be sorted. More players need to take responsibility and need to be more focused in games. United are in for a tough test against chelsea.
October 24, 2012 at 10:44
samuel - united WE stand says:
Olesrightfoot – bit too early to describe who will win anything but i agree, we’re playing free flowing inventive football. No playing in strenght lines or rigidity, which makes it difficult for opponents to mark the attacking play. Don’t think the gung-ho style is sustainable though, the defensive side has to be sorted. More players need to take responsibility and need to be more focused in games. United are in for a tough test against chelsea.
October 24, 2012 at 11:03
Ruudboy says:
I won’t swap Chica for Falcao… Chica anytime, any day…
October 24, 2012 at 11:03
Ruudboy says:
I won’t swap Chica for Falcao… Chica anytime, any day… Lets go and deal with the rent boys
October 24, 2012 at 11:07
samuel - united WE stand says:
Mig – agreed about the fletch’s assessment. Tne more games he gets, the sharper he will be. I’m not sure he has it in him to be previous fletch or maybe he needs more games to return to that energetic player but he’s fulfilling that anchor man role very efficiently. Sits there cutting out attacks and he may not be paul scholes in terms of passing but he is still more than holds his own in that sense. Could be crucial this season. Agreed on the fact that the defending needs improving though, i think all our players need to take more responsiblity off the ball, regularly players seem to go to sleep. Hopefully all these can be ironed out, this current below par defending/forwards coming to the rescue is unsustainable. We need to be more compact and organised off the ball. Chelsea will test united severely though, we haven’t won there for years. Victory would be a dream but let’s just not make things difficult.
October 24, 2012 at 11:10
samuel - united WE stand says:
Strenght lines? Fucking hell, Typo has cursed me
October 24, 2012 at 12:04
parryheid says:
samuel-united We stand.

paid particular attention to Fletcher last night and I think he is even further back than I thought, some good passing last night and that’s it Not one tackle,energy level meh( the manager will be happy though he now has his ready replacement excuse for Pogbha and Morrison and not dealing yet again with the midfield) now I really don’t ever see Fletcher returning to a fraction of as was sadly.
October 24, 2012 at 12:59
MarkoWire says:
Yes he played very well. I have had my doubts about him this season because hes been a bit off, but guess as most have said he needs game time and hopefully the goals last night might get his confidence back. As the the match its self…. Shockingly bad!! WTF is going on with our defence. If we play like that against Chelsea we will get punished. This is a our first big game away from home where you can bet Chelsea will have the better of the possession, we need to sort out our game and show the league we are contenders to regain our title. I’d take a 0-0 draw now……
October 24, 2012 at 13:07
samuel - united WE stand says:
“paid particular attention to Fletcher last night and I think he is even further back than I thought, some good passing last night and that’s it Not one tackle,energy level meh( the manager will be happy though he now has his ready replacement excuse for Pogbha and Morrison and not dealing yet again with the midfield) now I really don’t ever see Fletcher returning to a fraction of as was sadly.”

Parry – he’s been out for 10months with a serious illness, He was always going to be eased back, i don’t know how you can expect instant,return to form. Even if he doesn’t,get back to his former self, he can still be an effective anchor-man of sitting in front of the back line, which i thought he has displayed since returning and can forge a role in that style. No one, no sensible fan or the manager have said he is the definite answer but he offers something different compared to the other midfielders and perhaps you should consider the idea the answer to the midfield may already lie at the,club, whether they be coming through or in the squad but yet ro get opportunities. Pogba and morrison are still not established, seriosusly don’t get what you’re talking about, thought and as do many think fletch put in a solid performance, he may not run around as much as he did but he can be a quality anchor man.
October 24, 2012 at 14:54
The One says:
samuel – united WE stand, well said!!
October 24, 2012 at 15:59
denton davey says:
Diamonds might be forever.

From what I’ve seen so far this year, UTD’s best formation would be an “attacking diamond” with Chicharito at the tip, KagawaBunga and RVP behind him with TheWayneBoy assigned the position in the hole. But the very notion of a “formation” in regards to these three is misleading because they can – and have – rotated and interchanged to great effect.

The other thing I’d like to see is much more movement from the front players – I was struck how often the ball was shuttled from side to side by the midfielders without seeing the forwards move towards the ball or away from it. There is still way too much waiting-for-something-to-happen rather than making-something-happen.

The other side of this coin is that UTD simply don’t play enough wall-passing one-two’s (or give-and-go) – I hate to use Barcelona as a reference-point here but the contrast between their “triangles” and UTD’s hopeful crossing is painful to see. I understand that not all great players have the astonishing close-control of Lionel Messi or Andres Iniesta but it’s just frustrating to NOT see UTD’s great players giving each other these kind of chances.

Possession without penetration makes it relatively easy to defend against UTD’s rather staid ball-movements. Going back to my first point, playing Anderson/Cleverley would make for a much for incisive passing game with drive coming from midfield. In contrast, playing TheGingerNinja and Michael Carrick almost guarantees that we’re in for a match of side-to-side ball-shuttling.

Finally, getting the best out of Chicharito requires the incisive passing system whereas, by way of contrast, DannyTheLad seems much better suited to playing along with Scholes/Carrick.

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