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He’s so good this boy. Again, Rooney who?
Genius!!!!!
Absolut stunning Goal from the little pea
So fast. Scott is getting better with age
Great goal by Chicha…. But we can do with 2 more as we tend to concede 2 goals late on in the game.
That’s ridiculous. What a header. Looks good this kid…!
http://i38.tinypic.com/2saaqzn.jpg
Brilliant header! Impossible one! Remind me of this http://i38.tinypic.com/2saaqzn.jpg
Fantastic. I’ve seem to lost count of the goals he’s already scored this season.
that was fast.. now post the other one
Yippee! What a match!
FINALLY! ABOUT F***ING TIME TO WIN!!
btw.. I liked the 2nd goal celebration with the fan on the pitch
chica
lol … wonderful
rooney’s gonna take a while to get back in here – lol … i hate playing stoke – they r so hardworking n irritating to play against
didnt feel good when they pulled one back though … but somehow i felt this would be different … thank god it was ….
fletcher looks tired, n scholes too – we need to rotate better
keep it up Scott we appreciate it! Viva Hernandez! WE WILL NEVER DIE!
Wonder what was the motivation this time that they were able to get back ahead after the equalizer?
CHICHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH, I LOVE OUR MAN UNITED BOYS!!!!!!
UNITED WILL NEVER DIE..
KEEP THE RED FLAG FLYING HIGH!!
Thanks for posting the goal videos and thanks for the live blog Scott. Even being in the woods hunting, I can keep up w/ the team thanks to your hard work!
Why do we have to make it so difficult?!!!!
A win is a win, but there is still along way to go until we see the real Manchester United.
http://i52.tinypic.com/o0ne49.gif
This is a massive goal, a season-defining goal. Hernandez you fucking legend! Finally an away win, though we nearly bloody blew it again. That pitch invader had me in stitches, loved how the stewards let him finish celebrating with the lads before steering him away!
Viva Hernandez!!! The next Ole, or dare I say it – the next Ruud!!! BTW, good was Vida and Rio today? Not one fucking whimper out of kenwine jones…and loved Neville’s stab at Etheroington. On the other end of the spectrum – how shite was O’ Shea? I lost count of the # of times he lost possession or hit the pass straight into a Stoke player….But fucking great result, hope this where we turn the corner….
PS: Who do you think is the best choice for right back next week???
To the tune of Viva Ronaldo
CHI-CHARITO, CHI-CHARITO, CHI-CHARITO
GET HIM ON THE BALL
AND HE’LL SCORE A GOAL
CHI-CHARITO, CHI-CHARITO….
Legend in the making. The lad doesn’t even need a clear sight at goal to score as proved by this shot. Class.
What a bargain he’s been at £7m!
How can you not love this boy? Awesome. 5 goals already.
Hopefully his second goal will be the one that turns around our season. The one that finally makes us get rid of our travels complex.
@Jeet
Sheasy was shocking. Absolutely shocking.
What a signing indeed. Fergie’s unearthed a cracking talent. Again.
Have to disagree about O’Shea. I thought he did well until he came off. Defensively he did what we wanted him to do. Going forward he didn’t offer anything, but what else is new?
I didn’t read anything about Evra losing Tuncay in the build to their goal. Again, God forbid if O’Shea had done that.
This boy will score us lots of more goals.
Fucking bargain. What a signing by Ferguson.
he’s still the master of this game.
some ppl should shut the fuck up about O’shea. He played well defensivly and that was fucking all he should do. Where was Evra when Tuncay scored?
Anyone want to give him a stick?
Shrek come into the team at the expense of Chico and also berba. PLEASE NO
http://www.theunitedreligion.com/2010/10/stoke-1-united-2-well-never-die.html
Imagine losing 10-0 to ure hated rivals…. well PSV beat Feyenoord by that scoreline today
@suhayl
In the form that both of them are in? Highly unlikely. 200k per week sitting on the bench.
Chico is like a young Michael Owen.
Goalscorer.
Berbatov needs a goal, just so he maintains a good level of form. Next week against Spurs will do.
Anyone see Rio during the celebration, arm pumping to the fans. Love it.
Vidic quality.
Viva John Terry. Viva Ronaldo.
O’shea pointless. Absolutely pointless. Needs to go
Only two? Rubbish.
We should have forked out on a player who had his value extortionately inflated… that’s what I call ambition.
In all seriousness, I’m considering going down to Ladbrokes and seeing if I can put a fiver on Hernandez scoring his next goal with his arse. Top signing.
By way GHTT..aka jamsey just called into mutv. Spoke to David May and Lou Macari and thanked him for signing something for emily in a mickey mouse costume. His call went down well
@United4eva: Yeah…I was fucking embarrassed….actually I thot he was just about ok in the 1st 45 with some powerful clearances (I dont even expect technical brilliance to start with, nobody does I guess), but the second was fuckin nightmare.
1. Loved the idea of Evra as LM…he cut in, was aggresive and was always making a nuisance of himself. And how as that not a fucking penalty, I will never know.
2. Scholesy didnt have a great day, even w/o the mistake that led to the goal.
3. Berba to me was MotM…he didnt score but man was he fuckin brilliant, and it was so great to see him busting a gut, looking like he desparately cared.
4. But the biggest takeaway for me was that the boys seemed to have discovered a little bit of passion and hustle, when they pressed, we pressed right back…even the gaffer seemed to have rediscovered his mojo, was sick of seeing him glum on the sidelines. Loved it when he stood up and urged on the supporters!!!
Dear God and Busby, may this please be the time when we turn the tide – I dont think I could live with another squandered lead or another listless performance. AMEN.
excellent composure from the young man.
@Costas, spot on. Evra didn’t even bother to make some effort in closing him down after falling on his own arse. Tuncay was given all the space in the world. When Scholes passed the ball to a Stoke player I sensed panic amongst our back four, and then I just knew we were going to concede and we did. It’s weird because we coped really well with Stoke’s threat up until then. Maybe it was because we were in the last 10 minutes of the game and our players had flashbacks of our recent results but we really should have kept calm.
@Zelh
It’s fashionable nowdays. No matter where our team’s problems are, O’Shea is to blame. What got us into trouble today was that our midfield allowed Stoke to take the game to us. O’Shea wasn’t playing there. Stoke scored from the left, only O’Shea wasn’t there either. He was on the bench at the time. As long as keep blaming one or two players, we are missing the big picture.
PS. My last word on Shrek forever.
You insulted betrayed and humiliated our club and manager etc etc. You were gone and had gone. But from tuesday to thursday you realised some very apt points.
Lets face facts.
1. You realised Real didnt want you with their awesome firepower, Ronny, Higuain, Di maria, Benzema, Kaka, Alonso, Ozil etc
2. You realised Barca didnt want you with their debt and also the way they play, the technical genuis of Xavi and Iniesta, the best player in the world Messi and the best finisher in the world Villa
3. You realised the club you chose SHITTY, would have been a living nightmare, the graffiti, the fans at your house, the death threats and you knew you were dead man walking.
So dont make out you saw the light or the error of your ways and then it dawned on you how great utd was.
You were forced you prick. You had no choice. You had already sold us out long long before.
The club may have bent over backwards. But the real die hard fans will never forget what you did.
Happy Birthday Scouse bastard
@Zelh and Costas: OShea was ok when he headed out sopme balls in the first half. But he was absolutely shocking in the second half – I lied when i said i lost count of the no. of times he lost possession. 4-5 times in like 15 min, is my approx. guess, each time without any significant pressure on him. He seemed to be just banging the ball in to the nearest Stoke player. Each of those could have led to dangerous situations. I dont blame him for the goal – that was a Scholesy fuckup, albeit a rare one. Even then, Evra playing the advanced role could hardly be expected to cover up (he hardly does, even when he plays LB, I’ll admit) when the LB was AWOL…I dont have a personal thing against OShea, and I recall some performances by him where he did a very effective (if not pretty) job. But take a closer look at the second half today, he was quite pathetic TBH.
@Fze
Yeah, I agree. I said it in another thread, but after our travel sickness this season, it was natural for the team to be so cautious today. Especially in the last period of the game. Hopefully Chica’s goal will finally lay that ghost to rest. It could be a turning point.
I am a bit worried about Evra. He has been responsible for quite a few goals so far this season. And up next for him is Aaron Lennon…But credit to him for bombing forward in the end and setting up the second.
@Jeet, agree with you about Berbatov. Hernandez did win the game but for me Berbatov was our best player on the ptich today, never stopped working unlike Nani who I thought was nonexistent.
Viva Hernandez. Viva Hernandez.
And Viva Dedrick Boyata
city 10 men
Fuck Citeh.
already down to ten.
@Costas
I didn’t blame O’Shea for the goal but doesnt mean he wasn’t wank. His substitution proved it. The players at fault for the goal were Carrick and Scholes who simply melted away in the face of pressure as soon as Fletch was shunted out wide.
The centre midfield issue must be addressed. Short of Fletch becoming indestructible and never losing form we’ve got nobody in the middle of the park who can cope under pressure, physical pressure. Fletch picked up his game today and looked his old self but what happens next time he suffers a dip in form or has a period out of the side?
When we’re ahead we need to able to keep ball in centre midfield and control the tempo of the game and even Scholesy struggles to do that in physical, high tempo games these days. If I could buy any two players it’d be a class box to box midfielder and someone to come in and do the dirty work when Fletch isn’t on point.
Anderson once upon a time looked like he could’ve been the former and I hope he gets back to being the player who s-t on Gerrard in 07/08 at Anfield. But if he doesn’t bounce back then we really need to fill that void and fill the Hargreaves shaped hole in our squad that leaves us completley reliant on Fletch being consistent and fit at all times.
Hopefully they’ll be money to do that either in January or in the summer.
@Jeet
O’Shea was taken off before the Stoke goal. Evra was back to left back at the time. To be honest, I didn’t see him waste possession anymore than our right backs were. But I didn’t count the times, so I could be wrong. The team in general was giving the ball away. Not just him. In my eyes, I can’t blame him for letting the team down unless he is directly responsible for something.
@Suhayl: Dont waste your breath on him…
@United4eva
My take on O’Shea coming off was that Fergie wanted to being on a midfieldr like Carrick to keep possession. Maybe he wasn’t happy with O’Shea. Who knows?
I’ll agree about Fletch. He did show signs of his old self today. But like the others, I felt that he lacked urgency. The whole team did. We were just waiting for the last blow of the whistle. My hope has always been that Ando will share responsibilities with Fletcher. And he looked ok to me on Wednesday. But he was nowhere today. I hope he isn’t injured or something.
@Costas: Yeah…who was playing LB then? Evra, right, so yes, you are right to an extent…but I dont think you can pin it on him. Watch a replay of the second half mate, Sheasy wasnt quite covering himself in glory…its easy to miss in a high tempo game, I just happened to notice it today…to your pt. around Evra vs. Lennon, what do you think of X vs. Bale? X=Rafa, Nev or Sheasy???
Solskjaer was our baby-faced assassin..
Chicharito is our latin assassin!
is there a fav chant yet for Hernandez
@Costas, Evra does look like a shadow of the player he was last season and he is losing concentration far too often indeed. Overall I don’t think he did do too badly today however I don’t remember him making so many errors this time last season. I think he will gradually find his form back though. Look at Fletch, he has been below par all season up until today, where we saw his best performance so far. Hopefully today’s win could fire him up a bit. The WC disappointment really affected Evra more than we thought it would tbh.
@Jeet
Well in an ideal world, I’d start with Wes against Spurs. But we know that it won’t happen. So I am going with Rafa. He impressed me at Valencia and I think that he is starting to gain composure. Looking at the Spurs game last May, he did well against Bale there too. What about you?
jeet…it was my last word on him. The last word of the weekend
nasri!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
arsenal leading city by 1-0 at wastelands
Citeh trailing by one goal.
massive club.
Good result, mixed feelings. Stoke got their first goal against us in 17 years, but given that they were regularly pinning us back in the box, you never really felt secure. On balance we played better, and had a number of clear-cut chances which we really should have put away – again, the killer instinct is lacking.
Like many other commenters, I feel Berba had a storming game, but I hardly saw him take a shot in the second half. And we seemed to be defending for far too much. Give a team with more skill than Stoke the kind of chances we gave them and we’ll be punished for it. What let us off the hook in this game isn’t so much that we played great as much as Stoke’s lack of genuine footballing quality. We didn’t play badly, but we gave the ball away far too easily (e.g. Scholes’ pass which led to Tuncay’s goal).
Neville, O’Shea and Scholes were probably the poorest of the squad. Neville made my heart stop with that 42nd-minute tackle – we could well have gone to 10 men there. Not really sure what he was thinking with that. O’Shea played well enough defensively (particularly with the constant aerial bombardments) but his passing was poor and contributed to a lot of Stoke’s possession. And Scholes played okay until he began tiring in the second half, and he made a number of mistakes. I guess he’s just getting old. That said, the fact we still have to rely on him for so long and in such a physical game speaks volumes about the lack of depth in midfield.
Anyway: Viva Chichirato!
@Fze
And these two players were really immense for us this time last year. They set the bar high for themselves. The fact that they have underperformed had hurt us a lot this season. Like you, I hope they start finding their footing again. Maybe now that the Rooney saga is over, the whole team can move on and start finding form.
VIVA HERNANDEZ!!an absolute star in the making,great pace,movement and attitude!!are defence is starting to look pritty solid again rio and vidic were fantastic,the whole team looked as though they had something to prove to a certain somebody who thinks he’s better hen the rest of them,good on them!!!!
city are a joke and always will be!
@Costas: Rafael for me everytime mate, I am a big fan of the twins
This is Wenger we are talking about. I am afraid he will fuck it up in the end. A draw suits us better, but I can’t seeing City above us!
*can’t stand*
@Jeet
Heh, me too. I love how mature their play is at times. If only they could withstand playing every 3-4 days!
Re shitty vs arsenal, much rather shitty lose, would make a good weekend for me
penalty arsenal.
Citeh still a small club.
Just a thought, why not start with obertan on the left. He seems decent. Our defence was superb, attack okay. But our midfield is woeful. Dear lord help us against spurs and city. We might get thumped against better opposition than stoke. We lack good balls from the middle to our wingers and strikers.
what a save by hart.
While I have been concerned by the lack of our transfer activity, my wish has always been to find promising youngsters and make stars out of them at United. Like Solskjaer. And like Hernandez. Someone said that he is similar to Michael Owen. I agree. i don’t remember seeing a lot of him during the game, but he was there when it mattered.
Oh and the scene with the fan jumping in among the celebrations was fantastic. I wish that was me.
O’Shea – Evra on the left wing – I hope this is the first and last time that we’ve seen it!
Make no mistake. This was a huge fucking win. Time to kick on now. Vidic and Rio were outstanding. Hernandez is topm drawer.
I’m so happy for Chicha, but something has to be done about the midfield. Piss poor performance again today. Shocking passing.
Despite winning, Liverpool are still in the relegation zone.
http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1346339_chicharito_relishing_united_chance
Favourite quote: “It’s a good goal but the most important thing is the result. Here there are no heroes, it is about the team.”
Worthy to wear the number 7 shirt someday methinks…
this boy scores with every part of his body. left foot, right foot, his face, the front of his head, and now the back of his head.. what a talent…..
Martin Tyler and Andy Gray might be the best commentary duo out there, but they are so fucking ABU it’s unbelievable. One could be forgiven for thinking the commentary box was raided by Man City fans, their support for Shitty is unbelievable. Tyler groaning at every half chance, stark contrast to his indifferent tone towards Man Utd goals. When Nasri scored, he said it almost as a part of a sigh. Tyler is a cunt, he knows a bit about football, but fuck me, he aint as good as he makes himself out to be.
Massive win today, let’s turn juggernaut and fucking silence everyone.
What a great goal from the mexicia warluck. But we need to sign at least three players in january ( alexis sanchez, sneidjer and adam johnson or bale)
I’d urge everyone to check out the comments by Hernandez and maybe a certain Mr Rooney should as well
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6653031
Andy Gray is a cunt*
Hart will be world’s best goal-keeper soon. He is fucking awesome. Why not try a cheeky bid
Despite going down to 10 men I have to say City played well
I have a feeling atleasy one Arsenal player will get a Red and City will get a Draw
hernandez is class. do think we need to bring some midfielders in but dont think it will happen in jan prob have to wait until the summer.
@Moscow is my heaven
I used to think those two were the best but listening to them over the past year or so has shown what cunts they are, especially since city got their sugar daddy. Andy Gray is worse, i tell you the ABU movement is insane. Look at the whole Wayne Rooney saga, if he signed for city for 300K a week the stories would have been, “Power shifts to the blue side of Manchester” or “United finally crumble” even better “City show ambition by snatching Rooney”. But alas he signed an extension and the headlines go along the line of “Wayne holds United to Ransom” and “Big win for player power”. IMO the media are disgusted they didn’t get a chance to really twist the knife Rooney had stuck in United by wanting a move away,Fucking cunts
Who gives a fcuk about the ABU’s? Martin Tyler and Andy Gray are bitter twats.
Not worse than Stan Collybore though. He is the cnut of all cnuts. Bitter cnut cos SAF chose Andy Cole.
It’d make my season if Hernandez banged a few more goals in over the next 3 weeks and kept Rooney on the bench for the next few months. Rooney shouldn’t just be allowed straight back in to the starting eleven. His form has been shocking and he needs to earn his place back and take his chances when he gets them just like everybody else had to.
@Moscow
I find Tyler okay, but can’t stand Andy Gray. The twat was delirious when Hart saved the penalty and actually argued that thug de Jong’s tackles were often clean and was only a case of his reputation preceding him. I wouldn’t be surprised if Citeh paid these knobs to defend the thugs they have playing for them.
Does anyone know how many penalties Arsenal have been awarded this season? It’s fucking ridiculous, they seem to get one every game. The one today was a definite peno I admit but the others given in the past few weeks certainly weren’t, at least most of them weren’t. I am sure they have been awarded the most.
Fze123 – Yeah mate. Summat to do with that fairy ponce Chamakh. A cheating fucker.
adam johnson? You must be dreaming if you think city will sell to united especially one of there major players, signing bale won’t be easy as spurs are trying to build around him but i don’t think its impossible if we put a good bid in, he’d easily sort our left wing play out, he is a replica of giggs, sir alex can work magic on him but we also have obertan, bebe, welbeck, they’re meant to battle for the left, if they all fulfill there potential then it will be good news for united.
Our central midfield is weak, it needs strengthening, scholes can’t play every game so i’d imagine the manage has some central midfield players in mind that he’d want to recruit plus promote some young player from within, e.g tom cleverly? (who i think will be a regular when he gets back, he has rare outstanding technical ability that england players lack) pogba,matthew james, magnus eikrem, corry evan e.t.c, young players do excite when they’re coming through and when they stay in the team, it beats spending 30mil on another player.
Off topic. Power is shifting in Manchester. SHITTY 0 ARS 2. 34 YEARS AND TICK TOCK-TICK TOCK…………….
Can’t help but notice.. City v Assnal is the battle of thugs..
Arsenal were kind of lucky to get a break like that early in the match. But I won’t complain. Lets laugh at SHitty, lol.
Ecstatic about the result. Thought our defense was solid and the attack was interesting, even fluid at times. Fletch had the bit in his teeth. Thought Scholes was strangely out of touch. Still, both goals from Chicho were magic. Out of nothing, a cloud and whisper of a chance. Baring injury, I expect Michael Owen will not see much action from here on out. Chicho has arrived.
Costas, That fan is lucky he is a United supporter. He was embraced!, Remember Bellamy for Citeh?
the best citeh is achieving this season was the second place during the early fixtures.
Fergie on the game and other things surrounding United. I have to say not too thrilled about some comments but intriguing still
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={F9E570E6-407E-44BC-800F-4A3110258114}&newsid=6653035
Let’s all laugh at CIteh. Even Bendtner’s scored against them.
CIteh gets a battering!
what a great feeling this is.
let’s rub that in their fucking faces.
@FletchTHEMAN
Oh yeah, lol. Thank God we don’t have lunatics like him in the side. I always love seeing our players celebrate with the fans like that. Like Beckham scoring at Anfield and then running to embrace the fans behind the goal.
And will commentators please stop referring to United as man u. Fuck its doing my head in
@slim
I know. Football365 keeps referring to us as ‘Manyoo’. Twats.
This MASSIVE team is full of ambition
@King Eric, yeah he’s a ponce alright. He established himself as a cheat pretty quickly, hasn’t he. Soon enough the refs will realise his true diving self, well they better anyway, because Arsenal have had 8 penalties so far this season. They’re playing their 9th game today. Fucking staggering this.
SHITTY….MASSIVE….
..loss..
…massive humiliation at home..
sweet…
So us and Arsenal are level on points. We are currently in a decent position. Hopefully from now on our away form will improve. Our neighbours have lost then, couldn’t even score today, oh dear, oh dear, and Wayne wanted to join this ‘ambitious’ lot eh.
chico the ultimate predator
fze…arses usually collapse later in the season so if we keep on winning we’ll be above them..
@dela and slim
Yeah, most of my comments were aimed at Andy Gray, I corrected myself afterwards.
WE WILL FOREVER BE IN THE SHADOW OF THE STOCKPORT MASSIVE
before the game a stoke fan told me that i was stupid to think chicha could score with abdul faye marking him
@RedGem, actually, their annual bottlejob usually takes place January and onwards but yeah, I agree that we shouldn’t be too worried as they may well collapse again. Though Arsenal do have pretty much all their players back from injury now, and this is a major boost for them. Who knows they may give it a real go this season.
Hello Slim. Which comments arent you thrilled about? Just read the link “Sir Alex – I am in charge” and cannot really see what you mean. Do you mean about Nev and Scholes?
what happened to blue moon rising…more like total eclipse now, eh?
the attack was interesting, even fluid at times??? rofl??? our midfield was running out of ideas and kept back passing or square passing, giving away the ball in the midst. It’s frustrating watching the team play even when we are winning, we barely scrape through with a decent win. The team cant string together 5 passes before giving away possession in the 2nd half. It was until Stoke score the equaliser that we step up a gear and wake up fcuking idea. Some of the midfielders really need to start performing or they should be shipped out in the summer.
surprised at Sir Alex comments today…usually doesn’t single out a player for mistakes but did that with Scholesy..
Utd fought today against a dirty physical side and won, just need to sort out these silly passing mistakes that kept putting us under unnecessary pressure. Well done Chicharito some fantastic runs if he starts putting away all his chances He’ll be seasons top scorer by Christmas, class player.
I saw an Ugly fat Troll hobble off to be replaced by a Donkey at wastelands lets hope he’s out for 4 weeks, Whore.
I would love to get hold of a gif/video of VDS’s throw that reached Berbatov, who crossed it over to the back post for Hernandez whose shot only was only just wide earlier today against Stoke. It was absolutely brilliant, if only it resulted in a goal. Fantastic attacking move.
http://paimages.s3.amazonaws.com/categories/sport/480×385/9665613.jpg
Viva Hernandez…
And Fergie says there’s no value in the market, I beg to differ. Who knows what that win might do for United, a real big 3 points and without a few players as well. I see some mentioned Berba had a great game, not in the first half, but he upped it in the second, with great control and delicate chip to the back post for Evra, who miss hit his shot, but thanks to the little pea, who was there to tap in. A scrappy win, but they all count, we really need to go on a run of wins and with Rooney still to come back, things are starting to look good.
Berbatov was great defensively today again, his headers to clear the ball during corners and set pieces are never really mentioned, but this whole season, he has helped out vida and the other backs.
As bad as O’Shea was today, gareth barry was even worse, and he cost 25M???
@RedGem
I noticed that too. Poor Scholesy had a rare off-day but I didn’t expect the gaffer to single him out. Then again, at 35, after all that he’s achieved, confidence shouldn’t be much of an issue for the Ginger Ninja.
the chicharito chant (as per Livin La Vida Loca)
Onside, inside, out
He’s livin la Chicharito
He’ll sprint and wear you out
he’s livin la Chicharito
His shirt is devil red
and his skins the colour mocha
He will put you down
livin la chicharito.
@Fze
Yeah that was brilliant. Shame it didn’t go in! Is it me, or has Berba gotten quicker this season?
i was at the game hernandez was quality all game, fking top notch… and so was our fans singing throughout!!!
@Fze
That was possible the best move in the entire game. There was another counter involving Berba, Nani and Hernandez which should have been a goal- it’s a good sign that we are looking threatening on the counter for the first time in a while.
@united.george
Boateng and Barry seemed to be having a competition of sorts going along- for who’d screw up the most.
@ King Eric
Meant to say wasn’t thrilled about 3 years of scholes and Giggs. Sounds weird but i was hoping their replacements would be drafted in next season . These guys are top players but shouldn’t be forced to rely on them if we’re challenging for titles
@Manchuchu
Viva Chicharo, Viva Chicharo, VIVA CHICHARO
Give the lad the ball and he’ll score a goal
Viva Chicharo…
Perfect for the tune of Viva Ronaldo and accurate for spanish speakers (mi wife is Latin American), “ito” is the affectionate dimunitive for “Chicharo” (which was his Dad’s nickname). And Chicharo fits in nice with the syllables of Ron-al-do.
@united.george…. I noticed Berba’s defensive contributions today as well as in the past games… they usually go unnoticed by others..
but, I hate Berba’s haircut!
fze…was that a throw? I forgot….good lord,… but that was an awesome counter…only a goal was missing..
Are we ever going to get rid of the 3rd kit? can we at least get rid of the stripe on the top? just all black would be great!!
On another note, glad to see rooney using his financial acumen. He cancelled his 90K birthday party and opted instead to take a 10K vacation in Dubai.
Is Dubai the new destination for couples to go when they are trying to reconcile?
@RedGem
Get used to it. That hair is getting less every year.
Maybe he should ask Mark Clattenberg some advice about getting hair plugs, lol.
Slim – I think Fergie is being coy with those comments, he understands the three amigos are coming towards the end of their careers.
@costas…actually, I like bald, I find it sexy…
I liked the count dracula hair Berba had when he first arrived…but have to say too much time was spent constantly fixing it during the game….you have to say that ever since he cut it things have begun to get better for him…….you listening Anderson?
@united.george….lol…but at Spurs he was magnificent despite the long hair..
is anderson injured again? I didn’t see the bench today..
@ willierednut
Hmmnn indeed. I have to say i’m curious as to what he has planned when he said you’ll see a different United team in 3 years. Good times up ahead (i hope)
Is it just me or does the Archy guy from Rocknrolla look exactly like Berba?
Look at this, for proof: http://www.firstshowing.net/img2/mark-strong-rocknrolla-gun-vert.jpg
He is so much like M.Owen when Owen was in his prime.. Maybe even better.. His positioning.. His determination to get into the position.. Immaculate..
And that backward header.. wow.. Stoke players were shocked.. You see how Kenwyne Jones react to the goal.. “well, nobody would have predicted that.. ” kind of reaction.
He is going to give Sir Alex a much more preferred dilemma than the newly-ended one.. haha..Chicharito links with Berba and Nani better than Rooney does.. Maybe Rooney will have to play left again after this..
@dela, Berba and Andy Garcia are one in the same…
I think I read that Berba like Garcia and models himself after him:)
@Dela
Wow, he does look exactly like Berba. Berba at 45 mind you, but still:)
@Dela if u tell me that is berba in the pic, i will believe u
what we did learn from today
- when brown ferdinand and vidic are in the back 4 they defiantly look more balanced at the back with the possibility of getting more yellow cards, downside that point may not have much of a point when the defence did let in a goal
- evra’s improved attacking game the past phew years, has given fergie more options out wide especially on the left
- evra has almost become an extra CF, because he is right in the box when we need a goal badly
- rooney has a tough time to make the first 11, flipside of this is? if rooney returns to form united have strength in depth again upfront
- hernandes has proved come a year or maybe 2 years time he will be one of the best CF’s in the business
- only downside, today showed we need a new CM badly
- strange how scholes give the ball away quiet a phew times
we’ll do what we like, we’ll do what wee like, we’re manchester united, we’ll do what we like, fuckin top atmosphere today, even for an hour before the game, scott i sent you 2 emails on facebook with tickets for today, u should of come it was awesome
well I meant was with a less possibility of having yellow cards when brown ferdinand and vidic are part of the back 5
Best part of Hernandez today was his post match interview – The boy may not be made in Manchester but he was certanly made to be here!
@ FITB
Good analysis and as for Scholes well I guess he is human after all!
Hello mates…
His goals are alright (just kidding they’re great!….who needs scouse bastards when he’s in that kinda form) But what really pleases me i his attitude…always respectful and a great team player even though he is so young, he shows all the maturity you’d expect from a senior….
Fantastic talent….So much for lacking ambition….
@ Giggs11Gerrard0
Spot on, humility is something you are raised with and instilled in you from a young age and this kid has plenty of that…..Early signs are he really reminds me of the legend that is Ole
Red Devil – lets see what happens in the jan transfer window and the summer if the club really are skint because of the glazers
@cedars… chichole…
I read news over the summer that when chicha came on board Mikey Owen’s been giving him lessons/tips..
@ RedGem
Evening, morning, or afternoon! Great name you have for him and if he ends up nearly as good a finisher as Ole was and equally as important preserving his humility and love for the club then we have a legend in the making…. I love also how he bows down and prays before kick off (Not a religious person my self but its nice to see)
@FITB
I know how strongly you feel about the glazer issue mate….I am not a big supporter of their business model myself if you’ve read my comments and articles here….But I will say this, our club is NOT SKINT….we’re just having to …..how can I put it….RATION our resources lemme say….
When the time comes, we will spend, no doubt…but the moot point is that all that money will be United’s internal generations anyway….I mean just look at our net spend every year….
People say that we bought Smalling and Henandez and Bebe, but despite that our net spend is very less if you look at the cash we made from player sales in the clubs accounts…
I would be delighted if we sign good players, but we need too many to be honest…Maybe a goal keeper, A good central midfielder to take over from Scholes, also a back up for Hargreaves if he cant make it….but I still feel there is enough talent in the club…Cleverly and Eikrem are two players I am really fond off and I also have high hopes for Pogba and Ravel Morrison and John Cofie…
I might get some stick for this but I dont think Gibson and Welbeck are United class….I would absolutely love it if they threw it back in my face and went on to be great players, but its just my opinion.
correction its, we DONT need too many to be honest…
@Cedars…thanks, btw, it’s 2PM where I am…
I like it when footballers pray..just a personal thing with me. did he do that today? it wasn’t shown here.. and I also didn’t see Rio’s celebration mentioned somewhere here..SAF wasn’t focused either after the 2 goals..i hope there’s alink somewhere..
@ RedGem
10 PM here and close to bed time, wife nagging me away from the PC LOL…..
He did do it today a few seconds before kick off…….. Nice to see Fergie smiling today, brought a breath of fresh air to my heart, simply love the man who I was lucky enough to have met once
Red Devil – it is what I call a balancing act when buying. I am all for finding gems like javier and chris that is what I like and that is what united pay the scouts for, but what I am not a fan of is? buying young players for the sake of it. and then they are of no use to us and they get moved on. Look at obertan, not being funny he has not exactly taken united by storm and he is about javiers age, and already hernandes is making the talk of the town. Look at what united could have signed instead of obertan, adam johnsen who went to shitty, and schneider both players transfer fees totalled together 20 million. So it shows if the club looks a bit harder there is always that quality out there.
Cedars…better listen to the wifey…you’ll be happier that way…lol..
I met Fergie, too, and I have a picture with him. Isn’t he just awesome?????
also red devil, if united sign a world class midfielder who is the complete package most of our problems will be solved. a left sided midfielder I would also like, but to reform the spine of the team united get that gem who can dictate and create this team will blow everyone out of the water. But at most united 3 players, a GK, a top class central midfielder, and a left winger. That is it for what united need for to complete the squad
fitb..didnt you see our new left winger today?
FITB
I’ll agree with you on the looking harder for quality part…let me add Van der vaart to that list as well….
But I think you’re being harsh on Obertan….He’s not really had a chance is he…I mean last year was his first year and he was injured for 4 months of the season. Of the few ocassions he got his chance, he showed glimpses of hi talent, (remember the Wolfsburg game..!)
This year, he did really well in pre-season but the poor guy again got injured…So he hasnt relly got many opportunities to shos his talent has he? I mean look at him when he came on against Bursaspor….he looked a fucking monster…he’s bulked up so much and the EPL defenders will no longer shrug him off….I think he can go on to be a big player…let him at least have his chance before writing him off..
@Costas, I don’t know if it’s possible for a 29 year old footballer to get faster, lol. I would say that he is making decisions quicker this season, though. He is passing and taking shots more quickly, unlike last season, where he would keep the ball for 10 seconds or so, unnecessarily holding up play in situations where there’s a great oppourtinity to shoot for example, and then releasing it. Imo his vision and ability to calculate passes doesn’t require him to be a fast runner, a bit like Scholes in this aspect. Anyway, its great to see this consistency from him.
apologies for the poor spelling….its really late here and am a bit tired
@ fergie is the boss
ahem, i beg to differ on the obertan issue, the boy is simply a class act. The staff at the club are top noth but i believe they are missing a beat by not playing this guy more often. Granted he only had a few minutes today but his close control, off the ball running, passing are fantastic. In addition he’s bulked up too , maybe SAF feels it’ll send out the wrong message if he starts him ahead of other wingers, then again the only winger to start todays game was Nani. IMO we’ll be seeing more of him soon and i rate him to be just as good as adam johnson at shitty
RedGem – long term united need a new left winger, evra I still rather at LB. Bale would be a dream imagine nani and bale out wide that would make defenders shit their pants.
Red Devil – maybe it was but he lacks the cutting edge and end product, nani and ronaldo took till the end of time to deliver so maybe he needs time or in better terms he does need time. But what ronaldo and nani had was time, ronaldo had giggs and scholes to look up to, nani had ronaldo scholes and giggs to learn from. Obertan does not have that luxury, and with giggs coming to the end a LW is needed badly.
@dela, yeah that counter attack was delightful too. I assume the formation we will be consistenly playing this season will be 4-4-2, which means we’ll see plenty of counters again. We have played plenty of fluid, quick football this season as this formation had allowed us to but too many goals have been leaked as a result of this.
but the real priority is a GK and a CM, a winger should be last piece of the midfield jigsaw
@ RedGem
Well spotted on our left wing situation, could actually be a striker as well! I was not lucky enough to take a picture with the great man, I just ran into him in a Manchester hotel and chatted with him for a couple of minutes, to me it felt like eternity!! LOL
As for listening to the wife, you are spot on, YES DEAR is my fav statement and it works like a charm every time…..
Now let us go on a run of successive wins and hopefully do to shitty what Eindhoven did to Feyrenord today……. That would make my year
@Fze
I know it sound weird. But I look at him bursting forward and he appears to do it faster than say, last April at the Wastelands. I agree about his decision making.
When united need a spark, enter the peitit poi, lol As natural a finisher as Micheal Owen in his prime.
The boy with electricity in them there legs.
The first goal for me was like a salmon leaping and turning and twisting it was magnificent.
I also enjoyed seeing his pleasure and his team mates collectively embrace as a group.
Just United through and through.
Fitted in at this magnificent club like “Its meant to be”
@fergie is the boss, we do have someone who can play on the left side of midfield, I assume you have forgotten about Cleverley. I have a great feeling he may be brought back in January, if he wasn’t on loan I honestly doubt we would have had to resort to playing Evra on the left flank today. It’s a shame he didn’t stay because with Nani taking Valencia’s place on the right, he would have certainly got games on the left.
CedarsDevil – your defiantly whipped with the wife there LOL.
na a striker is the last place united should be looking at
Cantona 7 @ 19:25: “He is going to give Sir Alex a much more preferred dilemma than the newly-ended one.. haha..Chicharito links with Berba and Nani better than Rooney does.. Maybe Rooney will have to play left again after this.”
This underlines an ongoing problem for the post-CR team – what is the best formation/tactical organization to best take advantage of the available talent ? For the past 18 months we have seen that DimitarBerbatov and WayneRooney don’t mesh well together; now, we see that Chicharito/Nani work much better with DimitarBerbatov. These three guys work well together and it might just make sense to stick with them. So, I think that it migtt be time to dust off the plans to re-cast WayneRooney as a box-to-box midfielder – today, for instance, the midfield lacked aggression (which is strange to say when DarrenFletcherinho is snapping at heels but neither PatriceEvra or the GingerNinja were really up to much – Scholes, in particular, was pretty dire).
I know that a lot of you just don’t like that idea but, really, it’s also a question of necessity – which is, after all, the mother of invention. Look at it this way, SAF tinkers too much with the manpower so there is a certain lack of synchro-mesh in the play of the guys who should be “regulars”. What is it now ? 140 EPL games with a different first team. I know that he does this “Tinkerman” act because he wants to play a “squad rotatiion” but I think that he’s gone overboard. What works best in central defence is having a stable tirangle of Edwin, Rio. Vidic; what doesn’t seem to work is having a constant rotation among the attacking players. Or, consider this: UTD should be doing whatever possible to make sure that the team-sheet/formation/strategy that is employed for EPL games makes use of the best players – and, from an attacking point-of-view, that means WayneRooney can be re-deployed elsewhere. He might have been a real horse’s arse this week – and for about two months before that, too – but he’s a real talent.
The manager needs to find a way to get his best players together on the field. And, if that means changing WayneRooney into a box-to-box midfielder then so be it. It might not make the maximum use of his own talents but it would allow Nani/Berbatov/Chicharito to build on their attacking success. But, more significantly, it would address the quality that is lacking in his midfield options.
I’m just HUGELY IMPRESSED with Chicharito – as someone else noted, he has that “nose for goal” that used to characterize the YoungMichaelOwen. Great anticipatiion, great timing, great finishing, and an ability to live off the shoulder of the last defender so he stretches the field.
For all the talk about “ambition”, it has seemed to me that the manager’s “tinkering” has rather undermined the quality of his first-choice, first-team. Since the departure of CR, SAF has tried all sorts of combinations to try to find his best one. I think that “thinking outside the box” and using WayneRooney/DarrenFletcherinho in box-to-box midfield roles – ahead of Scholes or Carrick who can either be the “quarterback” or the “defensive shield” (hopefully both) might be a way to unleash the talent that is presently firing fitfully.
Fze123 – I have not forgotten about cleverly. Unless cleverly is given enough games then the midfield is still in need of surgery. But a world class CM and a GK is the priority
@Cedars…lol…I can see you’re well trained..anyway, if you need tips on what to say to keep a woman happy, let me know…
I hope today is gonna be the real start of our wining ways and mentality! I am just so relieved…
Who is writing gabriel obertan off? The boy has hardly played for the first team, he has being affected by injuries too, but he always showed glimpses of talent.
Now he has got back, he looks powerful and strong, added with his blistering pace and trickery, he’ll cause mayhem for defenders, just give him time, he has the required technical ability to make it, just needs to work on end product as that’s what seperates the best wingers from the rest, he should learn from giggs and watch how nani has developed.
FITB
I wan not saying we need a striker, if you read my response to RedGem, I was simply implying that Evra could play there………… Cheers
FITB…agree w/ Cedars and also re my post, I also wasn’t suggesting that we turn Paddy into full time winger…it was more tounge-in-cheek tho’ in reality it could work.
Have to say it must be pretty disheartening for the likes of Obertan and Bebe if your left back is given the nod on left wing ahead of you.
Now I’ve said many times Evra has the skill, pace and ability to play on the wing, but his form has been pretty woeful at times this season, and Sheasy has hardly covered himself in glory either.
If the coaching team are happy with the depth of the squad then I’m not sure why we need to shoehorn players in to different positions… however they have a lot more experience and success than I do.
To kind of contradict what I have just said, Rooney playing in the middle would be interesting to see… Fletcher seems to be struggling this season, he gave the ball away needlesssly at times again today, and I think he suffers without someone who can put in a good shift alongside him in the middle and Rooney will vertainly do that… though he is far from forgiven yet!
@ RedGem
Thanks for the offer my fellow red devil, will keep that in mind….One last share before I hit the hay, an ex boss of mine once told me ‘ a person may change jobs, change countries, political opinions and even wives/husbands but the one thing people NEVER do is change love for a football club’……
UNITED for life
Night all
@DentonDavey … I agree that Berba, Chicha and Nani all work well together, and have thought so for some time. I also agree that Berba and Rooney do NOT work well together — there seems to be no chemistry or understanding there at all. And never has been. (And as I have said in the past, that isn’t necessarily a criticism of either player.)
I hadn’t thought of Rooney playing in the midfield. He certainly has the energy to go box-to-box, as you said. I am not convinced it will work, but perhaps it is worth a try. Wonder what Rooney would think of that? Hahaha!
Anyway, Chicha is hot right now — and long may it continue. I thought had some long stretches today where he went missing. Berbatov was excellent, causing havoc and creating chances in and around the 18-yard box. I would like to see him keep scoring himself as well, though. If these guys keep it up while WR is injured, that is going to give SAF a lovely little problem to deal with: drop one of the in-form guys for the out-of-form WR, or leave his highest paid player on the bench.
Or, as you say, do something completely different.
Cheers!
@statesideaussie…completely agree with your post..
so did you watch the game at 5:30Am today? if i recall, you are on pacific time.
@Denton Davey well i think that is a brilliant idea. The closest we have seen in the whole league that can ping a pass almost as good as Paul Scholes is, Wayne Rooney. Wayne Rooney has the perfect mould to become a midfield libero, and i also think he actually does not look natural upfront. Rooney is not so talented in positioning, he took long time to hone it, and when he loses form, he will again need long time to regain the positioning sense. Maybe “not so talented” is not the most suitable phrase but he does seems to be thinking too much.
I would also like to see Rooney practice more on his freekick, and he can be our main freekick taker. He scored from a freekick on his debut for us. I mean, he can ping a long ball cross the field with deadly accuracy, freekick should be simple for him..
StateSideAussie/Cantona7 – thanks for the “props”; it’s good to know that some other don’t think i’m daft-as-a-brush.
On a related issue, “CaughtOffSide” is reporting (or should I write “reporting”) that Fergy’s #1 target is Sebastian Schweinsteiger for 35 million. He was the best player at the World Cup and even at 25 he is immensely experienced. Schweini would be an absolutely perfect addition to UTD’s first-team. Operating behind WayneRooney and DarrenFletcherinho and we’d have a truly awesome midfield – as good in its own way as the FabFour at the turn of the millenium.
@denton davey
His name is “Bastian Schweinsteiger”. I would love to see him here, because he was absolutely immense at the World Cup and is a fantastic player, but it won’t happen in a million years I think. He’s way too expensive for us and seems like he’s well settled in Bayern.
ridiculous header and then a textbook poacher’s goal..he’s got great positional sense, pace and heading abilities..I fancy him to score 15 goals this season..The team has to exploit his pace a bit more because he leaves defenders for dead with those well timed runs..He had made such 1 run but was wrongly flagged offside.. I simply love the trio of Nani-Berbatov-Chico..Hope SAF plays them regularly so that they can build up their chemistry..then we will be devastating on the counter attack..
All SAF has to do is just sort out the midfield because it lacks creativity and urgency..As Denton Davey and Stateside Aussie mentioned..Why not try Rooney in the midfield??It could just work..Another experiment I wouldn’t mind seeing is trying out Fabio on the left wing..but i hope obertan gets more games because I believe he will come good once he starts playing on a consistent basis..
caughtoffside = Bullshite
willierednut @ 12:49 – you’re probably right BUT I hope not ! I used to be a huge fan of Daniele De Rossi but Schweinsteiger’s performances against UTD in the CL and then at the World Cup changed my priorities.
Colbert @ 4:46 – actually, his name is “Sebastian” but his nickname is “Bastian”. So much for the inventiveness of nicknames in the present game. When I was a kid – a long time ago and far, far away – I used to select my teams-of-choice (Rams in football, Dodgers in baseball, and les Canadiens in hockey) BECAUSE they had players with nicknames like “BIg Daddy” or “CrazyLegs” or “Tank” or “Deacon Dan” or “Night Train” or “Preacher” or “Duke” or “Pee Wee” or “The Rocket” or “The Pocket Rocket” or “Boom Boom”. Now, what do we get ? “Giggs-y” or “Scholes-y” are just lame so it’s not a failing that is confined to other teams’ players, such as “JT”.
But, be that as it may be, as UTD4life @ 8:37 writes, the Nani-Berbatov-Chicharito combination seems to have real chemistry which has to raise questions about what to do with WayneRooney. I don’t think I’m alone in believing that he might be better used (as far as the team is concerned) by deploying him in “the engine room” where his drive, energy, and new-found sense of contrition might be best exploited. The guy is, first and foremost, a footie-player – a street football player – who would be a marvellous “replacement” for the GingerNinja – and at almost no cost (leaving aside the monstrosity of his contract !).
It seems to me that if we’re looking for a new, updated version of Bryan Robson then we only have to take another look at what is already in the squad. But, then, what do I know ? I thought that Alan Smith would have been a good replacement for the great Keane-o (and he might have been IF he hadn’t had that horrendous broken leg…….)
U ar still leading to score big up u ar self chicharito…
o my god this cute and sexi guy is an awesome player…………..
besides bieng cute and hot he is a really good athlet……………. love you chicharito!!!!!!!!!!!!