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VIDEO: Cleverley and Jones on Arsenal win




 

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  1. denton davey says:

    this is all very good but what about Sneijder, Modric, Schweini, and De Rossi ?

  2. Mikekelly12 says:

    Good lads! The future’s bright!

  3. Doghouse says:

    For anybody here who’s upset about Hargreaves, could be worse, could be Scouse. Meireles just did a Torres on them and is off to Chelski. Unlike Hargo he was actually playing some decent football. Must have really shat on their night because up until they lost him they were looking to have done some good business.

  4. TheCount says:

    Ha!
    Seeing that Becks is his idol,
    I think Cleverley is well chuffed with that stitches below his brow.
    Good lads !

  5. Red Riding Wolf says:

    The futures Red! 8)

  6. bobbycharlie1968 says:

    Nice interview, haven’t been this happy and “feel good” about the club and the players since 99. It’s an absolute pleasure. Both such humble lads, great to see, and class players to boot. I think they’ll be around for quite a long time. And this is much better than watching that absolute shite known as transfer deadline day.

  7. thales says:

    Feel gutted sneijder is nt cumin to OT. Bt any way, av gt cleverly to mk my day Feel gutted sneijder is nt cumin to OT. Bt any way, av gt cleverly to mk my day

  8. aimanunited says:

    Great, just don’t get injured lads…

  9. MAN- DERSON says:

    SHUT UP YOU MUPPET DENTON. What the fuck are you gonna do now that the window’s closed? Right. Shut it or piss off.

  10. denton davey says:

    MAN-DERSON @ 23:53: “SHUT UP YOU MUPPET DENTON. What the fuck are you gonna do now that the window’s closed?”

    Charmed to make your acquaintance.

    Now that the transfer window is closed until January, I’m going to think of new ways to amuse you.

  11. Bajan Boy says:

    Hopefully most of the Red lads get a go on Friday

  12. Kings says:

    Thank fuck the window is now closed. Now I can look forward to our next league game at Bolton on 10th September.

  13. RED_Dakduivel says:

    @ Denton:

    Really mate if you only get excited by big signings instead of young, bright prospects such as Cleverly/Wellbeck/Jones etc. you might as well fuck off to Stockport and support Shitty.

  14. Stretford Dave says:

    Take it that being from the Stockport side of Mcr & the comments DD is a Bertie then? They always get giddy at this time cos they’ve got someone elses money to spend.. Why don’t you amuse yourself by looking back over the last 34 yes before you all bent over for Arab cock just to have chance? You know when you that big pitch & tall floodlights! Now that’s amusin Bertie

  15. george joseph says:

    Hope we dont regret not signing sneijder. think we are still short in the middle of the park. Time will tell

  16. EDCUNITED1878 says:

    Phil Jones may just be Steve Bruce 2.0…looks like Brucey just a bit.

  17. Red Riding Wolf says:

    Come on ffs! Denton was pissing around! Deary me…

  18. JC says:

    Hey Denton how bout that Berbatov sale…. oh that’s right he’s still here and still in the manager’s plans you classless fuck.

  19. berbatunday says:

    ok where the heck is smartalex, l may sometimes find him annoying/weird, but in a good way. what is up with him anyone?

  20. Fred says:

    What a pair of wallies!

    Only joking. Great lads. :) I hope they’re keeping their feet on the ground.

  21. slim says:

    okay thats it what the fuck. New rule, when there’s a new post someone please say so. sat on the last thread thinking everyone’s gone to bed. Happened all week :-(

  22. Kings says:

    Top lads. These are the sort of players I love seeing at United, players who want to play for the shirt and not for the money. Makes me laugh when people say it is all relative when it comes to salaries. Utter garbage, players get more in a week than an average working person would struggle to see in their lifetime. The salary scales are so vast it is a piss take, and when you play for a club like United not only are you getting a good wage, but you are getting incentives and bonuses for winning honours. Anyone who says it is all relative is a fucking idiot. I am glad this is all over now and I do not want to see United sign another player indefinitely, as I want to see the likes of Tunni, Pogba and Morrison make the step up. I have made no secret of my liking of Sneijder, but my lack of comments in recent weeks regarding him was due to my irritance at his fucking piss taking wage demands. He had his chance and he blew it. You don’t get a second chance with Fergie as Gascgoine will testify. If playing for United is all about money then you can fuck off to hell. No cunt is bigger than this great football club. Roll on the next league game.

  23. Red Riding Wolf says:

    Denton’s popular. :)

  24. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    These lads a smart,funny and a good advert for a dating site :lol:

    No joke, I think I love them. They act shy, but there both a bunch of Messrs, you just know when asked about rooney they was actually thinking “help us settle LOL, hes beein playing practical jokes, bullying us and doing everything but give advice yet”.

    Love Cleverley, his partnership with Ando is called the “Clever-son” Double Acrt.

  25. aimanunited says:

    arsenal with some decent transfers. I think their fans should be grateful with our beating last week, if not then there’s no new players for them.

    as expected, no sneijder to united. Sir Alex has put his trust on Clev and Ando at the center of midfield.
    Of course you cannot expect them to be world beater straightaway but both are showing a lot of promises.
    And same thing to De Gea, Smalling, Jones, twins, Danny etc…
    I don’t mind if we don’t win CL again this season, our squad will only get better with experience and would be as good if not better than Barca in the next few years.
    Of course if we win both PL and CL it’ll be the best ever achievement by United young squad.

  26. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    Real and Barnacola are saving up their fringe players so when they sell next summer, they can balance the books whilst bringing in the likes of Tevez,Goatsze,Thiago Silva, Pato, Scweinsteiger,suarez,hamsik,Cavani, Ganso & Neymar.

  27. StatesideAussie says:

    Hahaha, TC can hardly contain himself … looks like he’s trying really hard not to start laughing!

  28. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    Very good deals by Wenger to bring back the Arse. He has unceromoniously shown that the defence wasnt good enough and replaced them, all 4. Hes given more quality competition to wake up that lazy cunt Persie and stuffed all opertunities for Rosicky and Arshavin to get a game. They are back and they will take 4th from the dippers, 100% sure of it.

  29. Doghouse says:

    Anybody else see something of a young Beckham about Cleverly? In a good way.

    What strikes me the most about this squad is that they seem like a really good bunch of lads. You can see it in how they play; honest, hard working, but enjoying it, playing with some swagger. They’re good, and they know they are, but they’re not dicks about it. Watching for instance the lack of reaction to the Arshavin fouls on our players, Jones could have pulverised that little muppet, but he didn’t. He took a really nasty little hack, and he walked it off and played his game. When you look at City and how many cards they pick up for dissent, what sort of attitude is that? What we have here is a group of proper sportsmen, in the pure sense of the word. And long may it continue.

  30. Mr C says:

    Glad for the recognition they are getting, but not so keen that those tossers at the FA and England squad are putting their oar in so early…

  31. Doghouse says:

    @Goat

    You reckon? I think the Scouse did pretty damn well out of today too. I think Bellamy will put the hulking failure that is Carroll on the bench and do a job for them. I also think having got rid of the last of the crap that Hodgson signed they’re well set to push on with Dogleash’s plans for the future. And I hate the Scouse, and I hate the Dogleash, but the man has a decent squad and has them playing happy and that could be enough to get them to fourth.

    Arsenal will be very capable when they get their suspended players back in, along with a big wedge of new signings, but they’ll have a fight on their hands to take 4th from Liverpool, and if there’s one thing Arsenal can’t handle it’s a fight. Any pressure on them at all they collapse like a bad muffin.

  32. Devil310 says:

    Fuck me…10 more days of this shit? FFS!

  33. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    Doghouse
    I agree with you that Dalglish has signed some impressive names but it takes years for an ethos and style of play to build up, just ask City. If it was names on paper they may just well win but as United play efortlessly the United way with or without players missing it goes to show familiarity and training make a team a team rather than a group of individuals. I think Dogleish may be able to challenge for a champions league spot but with their woeful defence and make shift laughable midfield and no remnance of what to do on an off day they are along way from being unbeatable. Id expect much of the same as the end of last year. Alot of people talk about the Dalgliesh revolution but what alot of people have forgotten is the last few games of the league campaign they once again took their foot off the gas. I really feel Wenger was frustrated last year at the endless throwing away of results but decided to give the players a pre season and a chance to make ammends. They didnt so hes struck. The playing ethos at Arsenal is still there amongst the youngsters and even though the youth team got demolished by United I actually didn tthin they played too badly against Liverpool the week before. It was a fluke giveaway goal that changed the fortunes of the match and the inexperience of pushing too far up the pitch in search of an equaliser that proved too much for the youngsters. A team of
    Szczesny
    Sagna – Mertesacker – Vermalaen – Santos
    Benayoun – Wilshire – Ramsey – Arteta
    Van Persie – Park
    is far removed from last weekend and infinitely better than
    Reina
    Johnson – Carragher – Agger – Enrique
    Kuyt – Gerrard – Adam – Downing
    Suarez – Caroll

  34. slim says:

    oohhh the newbies attacking denton !! lol

    don’t hurt them too much denton

  35. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    I would rather have Arsenal,spurs & chelsea with us in the top 4 than the other 2 cunts. Chelsea may have spent their way to the title but before money they was decent top 3 side with great players like Hasslebank and Zola,desailly etc.

    Liverpool are shite, they’ve spent crazy amounts under Rafa & Dogshite yet it never gets publicised, That what happens when your a small team in modern football.

    City are just a bunch of beggers. Cheaters can’t change their stripes etc whatever the saying is. Small time club will be exposed when they fail to win a trophy and sack Mankini and their league position will drop like shit till Sheikh Doofy pulls the plug on his toy and sells to Carson Yeung.

  36. Mahesh says:

    I just came across this somewhere, can anyone confirm for me the Zidane is back playing football for Bordeaux?

    I hate the Fascists with a passion, but Zidane has to be one of the most amazing footballers to grace the game. Anyone confirm this story for me!

  37. Mahesh says:

    fuck it, its a wikepedia entry!

  38. miss united says:

    they place well,but many more effort still needed

  39. denton davey says:

    JC @ 0:18: “Hey Denton how bout that Berbatov sale…. oh that’s right he’s still here and still in the manager’s plans you classless fuck.”

    Are you MAN-DERSON in disguise ?

  40. denton davey says:

    Slim @ 1:26: “don’t hurt them too much denton”

    Like Mick and the boyz sung years ago in “Sweet Virginia”, “I scrape that shit right off my shoes.”

  41. Chica Chicha says:

    Looking at the transfer lists of all teams, we are the club with the least transfer in of 3 players.
    Young & Jones already fitted in nicely. Only De Gea needs a little more time to settle in.

    It’s never easy fitting in new players. Look at Sunderland struggling with tons of new signings.

    Arry is a fool to reject 40 mil for Modric.The guy seems to have lost his marbles.

  42. Dragonslayer says:

    RE: Chica Chicha

    Harry needs Modric. Spurs is already in very bad shape, just like Arsenal. Selling Modric in the last minute and unable to get a replacement can be very bad. You have already seen what happened to Arsenal, the result for not trying to get replacement for their defense and midfielders. This transfer window has seen Arsenal buying 3 players, if I am not wrong. But a last minute buy is not the best, most often you do not get the result you wanted.

  43. jeet says:

    Can somebody pls give me a link that summarizes all the transfers? I’m getting giddy following this…

    Many thanks in advance!

  44. Red Devil says:

    Whats with some of the new posters on here trying to act like tough guys just to get a cheap thrill or win some popularity contests….really amusing :D

    Denton..you really are popular with the new batch, aren’t you..! :D
    Happy twat hunting :mrgreen:

  45. rohan19 says:

    @ jeet : here’s one you’d find useful
    well done to arsenal.. they’ll be good now. good enough to take points of our rivals..

  46. robbo says:

    My only concern with not getting Sneijder in is if we get some injuries to Cleverly and Ando. Both these players are quick, run forward with the ball, have good distribution, vision and brains and work defensively well.
    Our cover Carrick – plays more a sitting role (very necessary in certain games)
    Fletcher – recovering from major illness. Has he got the same level of energy to put in as before.
    Giggs – legs another year older, still has the vision but can be a liability against quick midfield.
    Park – Has the legs but lacks in defensive play (second Arsenal goal)
    Jones – Havent seen him play there but will defo have the legs, strength and workrate but question his vision and footaball brain (for now)

  47. jeet says:

    Thanks, Rohan – that was useful!

    Observations:
    1. All arsenal fans, like the dutiful little bitches they are, should suck our dicks in appreciation of the great service we have done them by awakening their manager.
    2. What’s with Chelsea – they seem to be buying youngsters? Maybe they are beginning to think long term (signs of Roman getting older?), or maybe they will just continue to treat youngsters the way they have been treating them so far? But Miereles could be good for them – maybe he will be able to keep Torres happy? BIG QUESTION: How does a bald man with sailor’s tattoos keep a ladyboy happy? :)
    3. Bellamy to L’pool – match made in heaven. Would have been doubly so if they had managed to pick up Barton as well.
    4. Stoke!! How sickening will their football (if you can call it that) get? Of all the dud strikers in all the clubs in all the world, they pick The Lamppost! Delap to Crouch – that’s their fucking plan? Ugh! And a defence with Woodgate and Upson…double ughhh!
    5. Last but not the least, I heard from some Manc guys who claim to be ITK, that indeed, there was a last ditch effort for Sneijder. Both sides had a go at it till late in the evening, once they realized their brinkmanship wasn’t going to work, but there simply wasn’t enough time. Which, if you ask me, basically shows that WS is not his own man, but his agents’.

  48. coomy says:

    So transfer window closed and a big shout goes to the anti wee wes clique and their charismatic leader Cedars.

  49. Costas says:

    Nice to see Denton is as popular as John Terry around here. :lol:

  50. CedarsDevil says:

    Morning all true REDS

    What a terrific video, great couple of lads that also seem really up for a laugh. Tried very hard to remain composed and act all mature for the interview but you could tell they just wanted to mess around… I mean at 22 and 19 what would we expect? lol But I do seriously believe that this is how things are in general in our squad, a bunch of lads that are enjoying themselves, working hard and putting in performances to make us fans proud…… Of course I am biased but I cannot see such a spirit among players at any of the other so called top clubs.

    So Sep 1st is finally here, no more speculation and no more crap.. (Until Jan of course!) I did promise a few weeks ago that I will not gloat if we did not sign the money whore but after all our efforts I do owe it to Costas and myself with at least a Muhahahahahahaha

  51. CedarsDevil says:

    rohan19

    Thanks for that link, makes going through all the transfers simple. No wonder Chelsea loaned out Kakuta to Bolton, I mean it must have been confusing for the coaching staff having him and Lukaku in the same squad!

  52. Utd4life says:

    Looks like the wee anti Wes clique won in the end.. Congratulations to Cedars and co.. Honestly, I thought we needed a player of his calibre after the defeat to Barcelona but the performances of Cleverley and Anderson show that the current MF has the ability to absolutely annihilate teams.. Finally, I would much rather see SAF bringing in Pogba, Tunni and Morrison than the likes of wee Wes.. Bringing in youth is the way forward and I’m glad that I am about to witness the emergence of a new United built firmly on youth.. A new, rampant United packed with power, pace, vibrancy, commitment and never say die attitude.. GGMU!!!

  53. bayobuya says:

    I will not miss the wee wes rumours, very distracting now as someone said we wait for Bolton.

  54. bayobuya says:

    Our youngsters gave Wenger a RUDE AWAKENING!! gooners should thank us!

  55. Mrad_leb says:

    did anyone notice that jonsey looks like jack swagger for the wwe :P two big monsters lol

  56. CedarsDevil says:

    Hi Utd4life, how are you good friend?

    Thanks for the congratulations but I think they should actually go to the club and especially the young players that will now certainly have their chance to come through and shine as described by you in your post….

  57. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Good Morning Lads!

    Feels great to be waking up in the knowledge that we’ve finally signed Sneijder. He’s going to be a very important player for us this season and he can only help Cleverley in the long run.

  58. Costas says:

    I knew all along that Sneijder would join. :D Cedars, gloat away mate, lol. I don’t remember how many times I heard that it was a done deal…

    @Mrad_leb

    He really does. :lol:

  59. Utd4life says:

    @Cedars.. I’m doing fine buddy.. How are you? I’m sure the youngsters will take whatever opportunity comes their way.. Looking forward to seeing some of the members of the FA youth cup given a chance in the carling cup and FA cup matches..
    @Balaji.. We don’t have to look beyond a certain Ginger Prince to mentor our Cleverley.. God, I miss Scholesy..

  60. CedarsDevil says:

    Costas – Seems the symptoms of the aftermath are worse than first feared, look at poor Balaji…Wonder how the ‘inside info man’ The Fly is feeling? lol

    Utd4life – Doing great buddy…. Excellent call on Scholes mentoring Clev and co, who better eh?

  61. Petey Red Red says:

    Has Sneijder signed yet? 

  62. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Also, will Cedars and Costas reveal where they were holding Sneijder captive until the window shut. And whether Yolanthe was with him at the time? :lol:

    On a more serious note, it feels fucking great to be waking up in the knowledge that we can finally start discussing only football from now onwards. At least, after these idiotic, good-for-nothing internationals are over. :roll:

    I am loving these lads. They are both so down-to-Earth and appreciation of the fact that they are getting their chances to prove themselves at the highest level for United. Tom reminds me of Scholes in so many ways – both from a footballing perspective and off-the-field as well. He is going to be a legend for us, no doubt. Also, note to self, do not watch Phil Jones interviews in HD. ( :shock: )

    BTW, for people worrying about our mid-field ( Sigh! ), which other team do you see that can really trouble us with the strength and depth in their squad. Going through Rohan’s link (Thanks!), none of the transfers really worry me to any great extent.

    I am with Jeet that it seems the 8-2 has finally woken up Wenger. More likely, he would’ve realized that no new signings would mean the fans would arrive at his doorstep demanding his head on a platter. His hand was forced by that thrashing, and he has bought more wisely than I would’ve expected him to be capable of. Looks like those 20 people he has working on transfers really proved useful. I don’t think they are anywhere near capable of closing in on the top, but should be challenging for 4th which seemed unlikely on Sunday.

    As for Chelsea, I expected them to finish second and still do. City have the better squad, but the rent boys have the know-how to grind out results in the months following December. But, both City and Chelsea, still don’t have the strength in depth that we have. Their first-teams are really good and can probably go toe-to-toe with us, but this is a squad game over a 38-match season. I think a few injuries here and there could leave them scraping for leftovers within their squads.

    As for Liverpool, I fucking hate them. Apart from City, they are the ones ruining English football with the money they shell out on transfers. Always paying over-the-odds for over-rated, underperforming British footballers. In fact, I would go as far as to say that they are the main reason we had to pay a bit more for Young and Jones. Of course, in our case, it is proving to be worth it. In Dalglish’s case, I think a large percentage of his transfers are going to turn out to be duds. It will be interesting to see what happens when Liverpool start having a rough patch and the new signings don’t prove as useful. How will the owners feel about money thrown down the drain?

    So, yeah, there you have it. Personally, I am not worried about our mid-field, maybe our fullback slots, but definitely not MF especially if Fletcher can get himself fit and back on form. Even if I were, I am not worried about the threat from the other teams enough for it to be a cause for concern.

  63. theboogeyman says:

    Cedars- Morning sir. Jones is only 19? Bloody hell, that’s only two years older than me.

  64. CedarsDevil says:

    theboogeyman

    Hi there, I knew you were 17, but that seems like 2 years ago now! lol Anyway not too late for you to consider a change in what you’re doing and go for football!

    Balaji – Well said my friend, you only have to look at Andy Carroll….. 35 million and can only make the bench, the dippers really got conned with that piece of trash

  65. Costas says:

    boogeyman is taking the piss now. He was 17 about 5 years ago. :P :lol:

  66. Utd4life says:

    35 mil for Caroll.. What the hell were Liverpool thinking?? But nothing can be compared to the 50 mil purchase of Torres.. A good player but he has regressed rapidly ever since he joined Chelsea.. I expect Chelsea to give us a tough fight for the title since they know how to grind out victories.. Ultimately, as Balaji said, it’s the squad depth which separates us from the rest..

  67. axelred says:

    Fergie,Gigsy,Patrick,Smalling and Chico having a good time.

  68. Mikekelly12 says:

    Morning fella’s

    Well, hate to say it but told you so……..berba will stay! Ok, I might have mentioned something earlier about Sneijder’s visit to a school for the hard of hearing, which may have been missinterpereted!!

  69. CedarsDevil says:

    Utd4life

    I agree on Chelsea, I have said that they will be our main challengers again, the bitters will face problems mainly of their own making but I fully expect them to finish 3rd……… As for your question, what were Liverpool thinking…. Well, that’s it you see, they don’t!

  70. Utd4life says:

    The funniest transfer has to be Mereiles to Chelsea. Just how pissed off must Dagleish be feeling now? Anyways, with Bellamy back, they must be getting that feeling that this could well be their year.

  71. Troy says:

    1. We didn’t need Sneijder. We already have a player who plays in Sneijders favourite position, and that is Rooney. Rooney gets injured, then Berb’s or Giggs can step up.

    2. Suprised we didn’t get back up for Fletcher. Going into a season with only one enforcer, and one whose recent fitness hasn’t been the best, is a huge gamble in my opinion. Ando’ and Clever’ are doing well together, but there WILL be games when more ‘steel’ is required. PAST EXAMPLE: those finals against Barca, both of them, we were without Fletcher. Ball winners, can’t do without them.

    3. Arsenal buying Arteta … damn, that is a quality player, even if he is 29years old.

    4. Scott Parker to ‘Spurs … if he plays, he will be holding Sandro back.

    5. Meireles to Chelsea … big loss for Liverpool. I’ll take him over Adams and Henderson any time.

    6. Hargreaves? … GOD 4gives, I DON’T

  72. Utd4life says:

    @Cedars.. LOL mate. They really do not think when they buy players. Of all the transfers they have done do far, only Suarez looks good for the money they shelled out. As for City, they have started out well but I remember Goat making an excellent point about how they will struggle during the winter period due to the weather and their ability to maintain their form in both CL and PL will be severely tested.

  73. Costas says:

    I have to admit that I was surprised that Berba (along with Diouf, PIG and Kiko) stayed. Nonetheless, imo we have to make a decision by January. Either extend Berba’s contract or sell him then. He can agree with any club after January 1st and leave for nothing in the summer.

    Gibson staying gives us one more option in midfield and I like that. Who knows? Maybe Tom’s success will spur him on.

  74. Samuel - united WE stand says:

    Costas – gibbo aint good enough simple as, he is slow and cumbersome and i doubt he would slot into this high tempo energetic game we’re playing, his all round game is lacking too and at nearly 24, and not having already broken through into the first team as a starter, i doubt he ever will.

    I think its good we have abundance in strikers, injuries may occur, we play in cup games e.t.c, you can’t ever have enough quality.

  75. CedarsDevil says:

    The club wanted to sell Gibbo, the manager said so himself, its obvious that his injury put any sort of move off… Might see him leave in January. As for PIG I am surprised we heard nothing all summer about him, I mean surely he is 4th now in the pecking order

  76. jasonpark says:

    Thats the window closed we did not get the midfielder WE needed . So lets get behind cleverly & Anderson and hope they can get a good run of games together and take us to no 20

  77. Zelh says:

    what?
    Where was the Fergie Time in the Window? :lol:

  78. GG says:

    Is it just me or does Clevs sound like Becks?

  79. jeet says:

    Fuck me, the Arsenal fans are gloating about Arteta like he is the second coming of Zidane. All talking about how they will get their revenge at Emirates, completely missing the point that a 8-2 scoreline is incredible amongst other reasons, for the fact that it cannot be avenged! I shut them up though when I reminded them that they still had Bendner…that got them seriously worried! :)

  80. Zelh says:

    Which midfielder did we need?
    I’m fine with watching performances like against arsenal and Spurs.

  81. Zelh says:

    isn’t Bendtner off to stealth united?

  82. CedarsDevil says:

    Zelh

    Yep he joined on loan

  83. james says:

    @ EDCUNITED1878 – agree mate, Phil Jones is the new Brucey. He is great, future captain of club and country maybe. Its not very often signings can walk into the team and play as outstanding as he has.

    He makes me wanna get naked and smother body in camo paint.

  84. red says:

    off topic, but the one place we needed strengthening and its same as last season.

    One of them gets injured and we screwed, CM needed sorting for me.

    Bit disappointing we didnt get anyone

  85. kanchelskis says:

    @james

    You still got that rod on from Sunday?

  86. jeet says:

    @Cedarss, Zelh: really? still, they got Chamakh, not to mention koscielny, djorou, sagna and chamakh… now dont tell me chamakh is gone too…!

  87. kanchelskis says:

    @red

    Anderson
    Cleverly
    Carrick
    Fletcher
    Gibson
    Giggs
    Sometimes Park
    Sometimes even Valencia

    We’ve no shortage of players who can play CM. It’s just the stellar quality that isn’t really there… yet.

    I say ‘yet’ cos I have a good feeling about the Clever-son partnership!

  88. MG says:

    The midfielder that WE needed couldn’t be asked to make the transfer happen

    Breaking News

    As Jack Bauer finally found Sneijder locked up half way between a Lebanese restaurant and a Greek take away :lol: time finally ran out for our hero – in not finding Sneijder in time United were left without a midfielder however the outbreak of WW3 was duly stopped in it’s tracks and therefore world order was once again restored.

    Well done Bauer you saved the day

    :lol:

  89. CedarsDevil says:

    MG – :mrgreen:

  90. Altonian says:

    Future of United, seem like nice down to earth lads.

  91. MG says:

    Afternoon Cedars in your part of the world

    I knew that would make you smile

    :lol:

  92. Red Riding Wolf says:

    So, wee Wes says he felt good at Inter and that’s why he didn’t leave? Nothing to do with his excessive wage demands, eh? The reality is Wesley, United didn’t want you and that’s why your dream move collapsed. Wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up at City next summer.

  93. rat1p says:

    Speaking to Holland’s NU Sport, the Dutchman apparently said: “We have had several talks [with United]. I just felt it came near, it was not by coincidence. Manchester United is one of the biggest clubs in the world, so it does not seem so bad. But Italy is great for me. For me it was not a financial issue.”

    not financial….

  94. Vishal S says:

    United Financial Results are also out!
    We’ve posted record profits this year.
    Glazers have also repaid a part of the debt.
    Net Debt remaining around 300 Million. Looks like by the debt would be off quite soon!! New DHL not included and we’ve managed record turnover!
    Future looking good:)

  95. oneloveoneunited says:

    Wow, finally that madness is over.

    Just did not see SAF getting involved last night, can relax now with United having a great future.

  96. King Eric says:

    Kings – Morning mate. Spot on. Belting post.

    Have to laugh at Spurs. Sold half their team but no cunt came in. Fucking idiot Beetroot.

  97. DreadedRed says:

    Loved the video, thanks! it would seem that the lads have been given a lot of stick by Rooney. They both seem perturbed, to say the least, rofl!

  98. King Eric says:

    Denton was taking the piss lads.

    Fucking Meirles? He is just a fucking ponce full of tatts and daft hair. Not a bad player but wont make much difference to the Chav’s. Glad they didnt get Modric,

    Who are these good players Dogleash has bought? Downing? Henderson? Enrique? Adam? Average at best.

    Doghouse – Yes mate Tom does remind me of Becks in his naievty and ways. Said that to a mate last year. The innocence of youth. He is a top pro by all accounts and doesnt even play on the computer or games consoles. He would rather practice and practice and become a top top player, which he will. God I am excited by this season.

    Oh forgot abouit Arsenal. Ballsack is a lanky cunt, good in air but decent forwards will terrorise him on the deck. I like Arteta but he has a very poor injury record and as sky like to make out he aint a fucking leader. They still need that steel. Oh and Benayoun? Not bad. Not great.

  99. captaink9 says:

    Great news about our financial figures.
    Well done Glazers and once again full backing of Sir Alex in the transfer window.

  100. Red Riding Wolf says:

    I’m glad they didn’t Modric. The lads a class act. The dippers got good money for Meirles. Don’t see that being a big loss for them. Arsenal lose Fabregas and Nasri and replace them with Arteta and Benayoun. Says it all.

  101. Red Devil says:

    Well the initial reports on the accounts look good.

    Am looking forward to going into the details of the cash flows and the nitty gritties…
    I hope its not the exchange rate effects and one-offs that has caused this kind of a result.

    Cause otherwise it looks fantastic….And if the Glazers can reduce just a bit more debt using the proceeds of the IPO, then I will take back all my criticisms of them….

    I must admit I was very wary of the business model and the tremendous risk it posed on us…And a HUGE AMOUNT of credit must go to Sir Alex for almost winning a 5-peat and getting to 3 Champs league finals and a semi-final in 5 years…that kept the money rolling in, in the midst of recession…
    Some credit must also go to the Glazers with their deals to raise the commercial profile and the fee-based commercial income of the club…

    Get the debt back to within a 100m pounds, and with the kind of talent coming through as well, the next manager will not only have a fantastically talented squad at his disposal, but also cash to tweak around if he wants to….

  102. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    @ Tom Cleverly. Speak up lad never heard a northerner so quiet!!!

  103. IVAN THE TERRIBLE says:

    lovely stuff lads!!!

  104. bayobuya says:

    I dont understand the hype surrounding the transfer deadline. It seems like on deadline day unlike on any other day during the summer or season an ordinary player who couldnt make it into the first team for Shitty(Bellamy) or a midfeilder from a less than average team Arteta, on deadline day they are superstars who will turn around the fortunes of a team?? None of the entire lot being celebrated last night would make it in our reserves!!

  105. Costas says:

    Read that the debt is around 458 mil. That’s all in bonds I assume?

  106. wayne says:

    @Costas morning mate that article i posted said the debts down to 308 mill

  107. NotoriousRedDevil says:

    @ wayne. Thats good news something to throw back in the ABUs who say we owe a billion.

    @ Red Riding Wolf. Mick Harford? Thank fuck that didn’t happen.

  108. Red Devil says:

    @wayne

    That 308 mn figure is the Net Debt figure…the Gross debt is bound to be much higher than that as the club has got a bit of idle cash in the books…but no doubt the situation is much better seemingly than what it was a year ago…i Still cant find a link to the detailed accounts though.. :(

  109. Red Riding Wolf says:

    NRD – Big Mick at OT? Sounds like Fergie had one of those moments. :)

  110. Costas says:

    @wayne

    Hi mate. That’s taking into account the money in the bank (around 150 mil) isn’t it? I prefer to think that that money will be used for Heskey, Bendtner and co. :)

  111. 90+UntilWeScore says:

    I think lot of people are missing the Paul Pogba in the midfield setup, I don’t know if he can play the enforcer role, but have heard great things about him here, and would trust him more than M Vila or De Rossi and this includes Phil Jones can also play there. Thank fuck wesley is staying in Inter, please love more of your Italy, I don’t think TC is there yet but the more he plays he is going to get fricking good

  112. wayne says:

    @Red Devil oh ok mate still those figures look really good,if the Glaziers go ahead with the floatation Utd could be soon debt free.No question the business plan put in place is working.

  113. wayne says:

    @Costas yes it’s disapointing Arse and Stoke got all the ‘top players’ deadline day and Utd got nothing,same old story Utd always miss out and we have to make do.

  114. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    Mr Papii is in the hizzza-house 8)

    Even though we didn’t sign a midfielder this summer, I don’t think we need one
    now but maybe one next summer or the year after. why?

    We got Carrick, Fletch,Giggs,Ando,Clevs,Park, Gibson.
    Carrick has realistically 2-3 years left at United. Giggs-its his last season. Gibson is leaving next january & I genuinely believe this is Park’s last year at United after signing a 1 year extention.

    This leaves us with the opportunity to bring in Pogba/Tunni. To replace giggs we bought Young, but we need a experienced head to lead the young midfielders and plus replace the ability of scholes and giggs.

    Hopefully we target a quality player in the same bracket as Sneijder. Im sure we will.

    ( Does anyone think we’ll sign an Asian lad to replace Park? With our fan base – why not?)
    :lol:

  115. kanchelskis says:

    Has Andersred had his say on the figures yet?

  116. Red Devil says:

    Well, I’ve finally got my hands on the full set of IFRS accounts and the numbers make for fantastic reading.

    Costas: You’re right, the gross debt still stands at 459 mn.Net debt stands at 308 mn with cash on the books almost 151 mn. However the purchases of Young, De Gea and Jones nor the sales of Wes Brown and O’Shea are included in the year ending accounts, so you can say reduce the cash by 45m approx.

    Operating Profit is almost flat from last year 64.4 mn vs 63.1 mn last year….although EBITDA is up almost 9 mn, it is offset by the reduction in profit on sales of players.

    Profit before taxes is 29.7 mn including an unrealised forign exchange gain of almost 16.4 mn. My hunch of Dollar fluctuations affecting the profit figure turned out to be correct. remains to be seen whether such gains will actually materialise into cash in the future, but nevertheless even after deducting that, we have a PBT of 13.3 mn as against a profit of 5 mn last year (again net of unrealised losses/gains)

    A fantastic cash position of almost 151 mn (approx 106 mn after the current year purchases and sales of players)

    Gross debt by EBITDA is almost down to 4.1x, which is a decent multiple but still a bit on the higher side (my personal opinion)

    Wages will be on a continuously rising trend as players contracts are re-negotiated upwards in light of Rooney’s contract, players graduating from reserves to First Team squad, as well as the wage inflation brought about by City and Chelsea. So we need to be continuously successful on the pitch to keep the wages to revenue ratio under control. the full effect of the wage re-negotiations with Valencia, Hernandez and Smalling and others will come in next year

    I Hope some of the proceeds of the IPO are used to buy-back even more of the debt by the Glazers in addition to paying down the funds borrowed to release the PIK’s

    If we can continue to increase the commercial income, future financial position looks much better than it did a couple of years back

  117. Costas says:

    @wayne

    I do agree that there seems to be an ambitious plan in motion. I believe a couple of years back the debt was around 760mil. So well done to the Glazers on that front. Getting rid of the PIKs helped immensely. However I have to admit that I am a bit concerned about how that happened and whether it’s something that will come back to haunt us in the future. I hope not.

    @Red Devil

    Thanks for the details mate. Yeah the summer signings and the subsequent net spending will appear later on. However, I believe that the total amout spent on wages will be down this season. Some players did sign new contracts, but we also saved about 205k a week in wages. So all in all the total amount spent in rebuilding the squad wasn’t excessive. Not by Man City standards anyway!

  118. King Eric says:

    GG – Its just you. Cleverley is a northerner, Becks is a cockney.

  119. Kings says:

    King Eric – Hello mate. Thanks.

    Yeah he is a fucking idiot. Giving it large about the players he took a fancy to and none of them fancied a move to that shit club. Instead of that, half the clowns he bought have now fucked off. Wasn’t that baby head cunt Lassana Diarra supposed to be close to a £9m move before the close of the window? Well it certainly got all his lickspittle mates at Sky excited. Nice one Arry you silly cunt.

  120. King Eric says:

    willie – Ha. Remember reading in Fergies book that he went in for Mick Harford. When we play at shit grounds now we could have done with big Pete Crouch!

  121. denton davey says:

    90+ @ 13:15: “I think lot of people are missing the Paul Pogba in the midfield setup, I don’t know if he can play the enforcer role,”

    At the moment – subject to SAF’s tinkering – UTD don’t play with someone in “the enforcer role”. For a terrific analysis of how TheLordOfFerg has set up his team see:

    http://www.unitedrant.co.uk/latest/why-fergie-may-persist-with-youth/

    Meanwhile, the point made by Troy @ 9:45 seems spot-on to me. “We didn’t need Sneijder. We already have a player who plays in Sneijders favourite position, and that is Rooney. Rooney gets injured, then Berb’s or Giggs can step up.”

    I would add that “Berb’s or Giggs” are warming the bench, keeping that spot warm for Paul Pogba. This is part of SAF’s policy of “evolution not revolution”.

    Assuming that the golden trio of Pogba, Morrison, and Tunnicliffe ALL come good then what’s the point of splasing-the-ca$h on the likes of Sneijder (or Modric or De Rossi or Schweini) ? Instead, the money not spent on these veterans will be used to keep the troops happy which is why we’ll be seeing announcements of contract renewals (with huge wage increases) for Antonio Valencia, Chris Smalling, Chicharito and others. This, too, is part of Glazernomics – wages can rise because income is also rising yet the wages:income ratio is still under 50%.

  122. King Eric says:

    Kings – Nice one pal. Yeah babyhead Diarra was close to a deal last week according to sky. Beetroot must have told them through his car window. Tell you mate . If he spent less fucking time talking to those cunts and concentrating on his squad they may be doing better then being rock fucking bottom. Cheeky cunt even asked Vida and Rio what they thought to Adebayour? Do your own fucking scouting you chancer. His strikeforce is absolutely laughable. I have never seen a greedier player than Defoe. Next time you watch Spurs just watch that cunt. All he does is shoot no matter where he is on the park.

  123. RedWhiteGreenGold says:

    @Red Devil – thanks for your insight into the figures. Could you please share the accounts if possible.

    The numbers do make for good reading and certainly show that we are headed in the right direction. Hopefully, the picture is as rosy as it seems. We are yet to know how the PIK loans were financed as also the status of the interest on the 500m (?) pounds bonds issues 1-2 yrs back.

  124. Kings says:

    King Eric – Exactly mate. That’s why that cunt will always be a loser. You don’t see Fergie sniffing around Sky, licking up to the reporters and joining Stelling in advertising the Sky Fantasy Football. My mates old man knows Barry Silkman and he said that he, Venables and Redknapp are all the fucking same – wheeler dealer cunts always looking for easy money and are happy to fuck people over. Yeah if he actually dedicated more time into managing the club rather than whoreing himself for a job at Sky, he might make Spurs a half decent team. Yeah fucking hell, I have never seen such a greedy cunt like Defoe. He must have had about 5 shots on goal in 2 mins during their game against City game last Sunday. Watching him and that other egotistical cunt Adebyor should be good for a laugh.

  125. Red Devil says:

    Costas, RedWhiteGreenGold

    Cheers mates

    Here’s the link to the accounts

    http://www.mufplc.com/pdf/Q4%202011%20Report.pdf

  126. Zibbie says:

    Yes the window is shut!
    SAF does great and early business. Time to settle.
    TC and Jonesy wow what a future. The mention of Rooney mad them smile, playing golf cool. What a leader.
    Now for the real business of RoM and the great discussion of knowledgeable life long fans who have played the game growing up.

    My humble pie has a hint of rhubarb… nice Mrs Cedars or Costas must have made it.

    You guy’s know I went through free agents with the break up of the 85 Bears and went through many of your same feelings, and over time I excepted contract stuff that pissed me off and would rather have the player have the $ then the owner. Rooney fucked up but is worth the $ and the lads love him. See how they lite up by the mention of his name. Priceless………………

  127. scan74 says:

    top fucking lads the futures looks good with these 2

    both started season really well jones is a fucking monster

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