VIDEO: Dynamo visits Rooney, Owen and Cleverley‏

January 17, 2012 299 Comments

Author: Scott Filed Under Just For Fun, Michael Owen, Tom Cleverley, Video, Wayne Rooney

299 Comments

January 17, 2012 at 14:39
lebomanc says:
That guy is amazing
I’ve seen a few of his tricks before and he’s really good
January 17, 2012 at 14:39
falsafa says:
Always loved Dynamo.
January 17, 2012 at 14:45
kanchelskis says:
Is he a red, then? I guess if he popped the shirt on, he must be. Unless he’s like Snopp Dogg, and wears the shirt of wherever he happens to be!
January 17, 2012 at 14:46
@samriley9 says:
The best around.
January 17, 2012 at 14:51
Costas says:
So he’s a magician? I guess Fergie had to resort to this if he wanted Tom and Owen to play again within the year 2012.
January 17, 2012 at 15:05
Dillan says:
I just came on here to sulk.Looks like Chelsea’s closing in on Hazard.Gone are the days Man United can compete for a player of that quality.When last have we signed someone to get really excited about.Let’s face it Man United can no longer lure the exceptional talents.Get the Glazers outta there and fast.Fergie talking about no value in the market,bollocks we can’t compete in the market.Simple as that!!!
January 17, 2012 at 15:06
smartalex says:
Magical!

Myth debunking Rio tweets: “Just dispelling the rumours that I’m a doubt for sunday! Trained with the team as normal since the game saturday! Coaches ran us hard 2day!,”
January 17, 2012 at 15:08
smartalex says:
Dillan

Name the last 3 ‘exceptional talents’ we have lured.
January 17, 2012 at 15:10
Manchuchu says:
Dear Dillan,

fuck off

love,

the skints
January 17, 2012 at 15:10
FletchTHEMAN says:
The Magician must be getting some positives. Rio just Tweeted that he is fit for Arsenal!

rioferdy5
Just dispelling the rumours that I’m a doubt for sunday! Trained with the team as normal since the game saturday! Coaches ran us hard 2day !
1 hour ago
January 17, 2012 at 15:12
FletchTHEMAN says:
Cheers smartalex ! Didn’t see your post!
January 17, 2012 at 15:15
kanchelskis says:
@Dillan

And you know for sure – 100% – that Hazard is a better player than both Ashley Young and Phil Jones?
January 17, 2012 at 15:16
smartalex says:
FletchTHEMAN – I’m watching you!
January 17, 2012 at 15:17
smartalex says:
Here are a list by Andi Thomas of things that exist in English football that he considers to be worse, in one way or another, than waving an imaginary card. In no particular order:

The lack of justice for the families of those killed at Hillsbrough; the unthinking indulgence of reckless tackles; the shepherding of the ball out of play to the point that it becomes obstruction; timewasting; shirt-pulling in the penalty area during a set-piece; the time allowed by referees for free-kicks; racial abuse; the existence of the word “banter”; diving; players wearing coloured boots; Alan Hutton; the over-protection of goalkeepers: the failure of the FA to adequately oversee and regulate the ownership of football clubs; the demise of Darlington; the weird fetishisation of the long slow crossfield pass; the Poznan; the complete and total failure to keep accurate time during games; the relentless scapegoating of officials; the fact that Twitter is the dominant source of news; the mess that is the loan system; Richard Scudamore; the savage assault of the Premier League on memory; the nonsense that is the Man of the Match award; 95% of all pundits, presenters, broadcasters and opinionistas; Sepp Blatter; the ongoing tolerance of homophobia in the stands; the blatant use of lists to pad out football writing; the existence of “banter”; the depressing decline of football in Africa; the plague of agents; the likely demise of Kettering; the wages; the fact that Liverpool fans go straight from the last syllable of “alone” to the beginning of “walk on” without observing the rest; the fact that Manchester United have an Official Responsible Drinking Partner; Colin Murray; the mysterious disappearance of halfway-line flags; Michael Owen’s app; half-and-half scarfs at derbies; Wayne Bridge.

http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2012/1/17/2713149/manchester-city-vs-wigan-roberto-mancini
January 17, 2012 at 15:25
Briggsy says:
Did Cleverly even speak in that video, or has he injured his mouth?
January 17, 2012 at 15:29
FletchTHEMAN says:
Ancelotti also claimed: “There is a lot of choice for this January market. Do you want the names?
“OK, now I tell you the players the agents are offering on the market, officially or not: Carlos Tevez, Fernando Torres, Dimitar Berbatov, Roman Pavlyuchenko, Edinson Cavani, Fernando Llorente.”

Hmmm. Say it aint so Dimi!

From an interview reported by Click
January 17, 2012 at 15:31
gaz says:
@Dillan

what i have seen of hazard he seems a decent player but the fact that we cant compete is bollocks every top club in the league wanted Jones and we got him! we dont need a hazard now he is a winger and we have the best roster of out and out wingers in the league
January 17, 2012 at 15:38
kanchelskis says:
@gaz

Fucking spot on.
January 17, 2012 at 15:46
gaz says:
@kanchelskis

Cheers mate!
January 17, 2012 at 15:56
samuel - united WE stand says:
People banging about several signings that i doubt Fergie will ever go for. I reckon he’d pull a Suprise and sign joe allen from swansea who i reckon is a real quality midfielder.
January 17, 2012 at 15:59
kanchelskis says:
@gaz

No worries.

Just winds me up when people’s ‘thinking’ gets dominated by an agenda of pessimism. Hazard is going to Chelsea… THEREFORE United can’t compete in the transfer market. Sorry, what?

We spent over £50m in the summer. If SAF had wanted to, hed’ve spent that on one player. He didn’t – he strengthened the squad and replaced the keeper. The injury situation means we’ve barely felt the benefit of the squad strengthening, but shit happens. Doesn’t mean we’re suddenly doomed to bargain-basement signings.

Let’s be honest. If Fletcher, Anderson, Cleverly and Carrick are all fit and playing to their best, and Morrison and Pogba are (still here and) pushing for the first team, we won’t even need that MF signing in the summer.

The likelihood of this is sparse, though. But if Fergie wants the money to buy a CM, he will get it. And he will spend it wisely. Not on a winger playing in the lightweight French league.
January 17, 2012 at 16:09
Runcorn red says:
dillon = dildo
January 17, 2012 at 16:10
Dillan says:
@smartalex

Berbatov,Nani,Rooney?Can I get a Amen?Berbatov was the last player I got genuinely excited about?Seems like we only searching for bargains.We the world’s biggest club,surely we should be challenging for the world’s biggest players.And Jones is a very good talent and a player I’ve grown to love but let’s be honest did his signing get you giddy?Did it make you feel like you would have felt signing a Pastore or Gotze?
January 17, 2012 at 16:11
nabi says:
kanchelskis- i doubt he would be as hes from york..baaaaaa
January 17, 2012 at 16:12
gaz says:
i have been thinking over the last few weeks Jonny Evans when he has played has been imense now i have been critical of Jonny in the past for lack of concentration at times but i have unearthed these interesting stats of when Jonny has played aside from when he got sent off against Shitty.

QPR (Evans and Ferdinand ) – Evans hit the post, got cleared off the line once, covered for Ferdinand a lot in that game. CLEANSHEET

Fulham (Evans and Ferdinand) – Solid display from Evans again. CLEANSHEET

Wigan (Evans and Ferdinand) – Solid again – CLEANSHEET

Blackburn (Jones and Evra) – HORRIBLE positioning for second goal….Jones with a blunder to let Yakubu through – Goals conceded – 3

Newcastle (Jones and Ferdinand) – Shaky display by Phil against Shola rounded off with a own goal – Goals conceded – 3

Man City – (Smalling and Ferdinand) once again not so convincing in the second half – goals conceded – 2

Bolton (Evans and Ferdinand) – CLEANSHEET

It seems to me that at this moment in time Rio/Jonny is our most solid central defensive partnership i love Jones and Smalling both are top class talents but this makes interesting reading i taught. Maybe Phil might get to play CM against the quennies on Sunday and rough those bifters up!
January 17, 2012 at 16:16
Lodi3000 says:
Manchester United
* Wayne Rooney had the same number of shots (10) on Saturday as the whole Bolton side. Neither scored. * Rooney’s pass completion rate v Bolton was lower than any United player (including Anders Lindegaard)
at 70%. * Lindegaard has the best save conversion rate of any PL keeper at 84%.
January 17, 2012 at 16:20
LoneStarRed says:
@ Dillan Pull up your skirt mate and take a chill pill. Even with our injury crisis we are second. WoMancini is showing signs of cracking under the pressure and is complaining about how he needs to buy to strengthen his squad. We have world class players coming back from injury and in the reserve funnel. If a well considered target is available we will act. If not, the best purchase may be no purchase at all. The sky is not falling!!
January 17, 2012 at 16:22
gaz says:
@Dillan

Manchester United doesnt buy stars “we make stars” can you honestly say you were excited about a scrawny portugue kid no one had heard of when he was 18 Ronaldo? What about Vida? Paddy Evra?Nani we had endured a few bad seasons from him but now he is a world star! Chicho is another…i can go on!
January 17, 2012 at 16:23
ClaytonBlackmoresTan says:
@smartalex- Colin Arsing Murray and his five star tattoo up his arm for the dippers European ‘efforts’- i like to think its more for the band 5-star, that’s about the level that fucking per-rick operates at.

That list is tremendous and made me think what winds me up…in no particular order:

Craig Bellamy’s screwface; lino’s being called assistant referees; Shit lager sponsor providing shit lager in grounds; fat old geezers in replica shirts; West Ham; Maneesh; Jamie Redknapp’s painted-on trousers; Gervhinio’s head/ spam; no mud on players when they leave the pitch; the chant ‘We’re by far the greatest team, the world has ever seen’ when you’re two-bob (see Villa, Stoke, insert mid-table dross team where appropriate); Andy Townsend’s hair/ voice/ existence; feeling like i’m in a Cinema at a game; The Rent Boys belief that they’ve always been competing; The misconception that Geordies make any noise unless they’re winning; Sue Barker’s flirty exchange with footballers on QoS; The Daily Fail and the stories they love to invent; Thierry Henry- nice guy and legend, no-cheat and twat; Fulham fans wax jacket/ deck shoe attire; Mike Summerbee, are you fucking sure you fat cunt?; every left footed youth team graduate being described as ‘cultured’; twitter spk of playas; Dirty Leeds; shit chips in grounds anywhere south of Wigan; Shit shaved-shape haircuts, Nani- why mate? Why?!?!; The fact that they all loved Tevez when he left us and called us bitter, but now everyone hates the little squat prick and we’re arrogant to say ‘we told you so’; Car-seats in dugouts; Blue ketchup; The delayed train from Euston to Manchester; missing the train back; that fuckin’ knobead ABU in my local who doesn’t actually support anyone he just hates United; Daniel Taylor from the Guardian; stupid big headphones on players getting off the team bus; Steve McClaren for letting us believe he was alright when he’s clearly a proper bell; Liam Gallagher unless he’s singing with Oasis; Micah Richards pretending he’s a Manc when he’s a fucking Brummie; My mum washing my United short with Bobby Charlton’s autograph on it; Kenneth Dogleash.

That felt really good.

PS- Any spares for Ajax away greatly received- nice one Reds.
January 17, 2012 at 16:23
kanchelskis says:
@Dillan

Why would you have got excited about Pastore or Goetze? Let me guess… cos they’re foreign, right?

Who needs a player who’s 19, who’s coveted by every PL club, who’s already been touted as a future England captain, who we’ve seen ply his trade in the league in which we operate… when we could get someone with a fancy foreign name, right?
January 17, 2012 at 16:40
captaink9 says:
Foreigners are the way forward. They set the world a light, who was the last English man to grace the Balon dor?
January 17, 2012 at 16:44
King Eric says:
Like I said on previous thread first saw this geezer on stage with Ian Brown at the MEN the day of Besties funeral. He is fucking ridiculous. How the fuck he pulls off the shit he does is beyond me. He puts it down to having crones disease and being mind over matter. THE best magician there has even been. That one where he walked through a shop window in front of Rio was unbelievable.
January 17, 2012 at 16:45
gaz says:
@captaink9

Fuck the balon dor it means shit
January 17, 2012 at 16:45
Saad says:
Giggs in the 184-strong pool of players available for selection to Team GB.

There’s a good chance Giggsy will be selected. His experience, his ability and the fact that he won’t be involved in Euro 2012 means he’ll be fresh for the Olympics, which should easy considering that 3/4s of the team will be U21s. Or is it U23s?

Downside to that is that Giggsy won’t be available for the start of the season. He’ll no doubt be given a month off after the Games.
January 17, 2012 at 16:51
Saad says:
Poor man’s David Blaine.
January 17, 2012 at 16:52
FletchTHEMAN says:
captainK9 I take your point. But honestly, don’t be knocking United players. “Who was the last English man to grace the Balon dor?” Well mate, he plays for Man United mate and goes by the name of Wayne Rooney.

Only Englishman on the FIFA XI at this years Balon dor (with his mate Nemanja Vidic)
Only Englishman on FIFA Goal of the Year Puskas award podium

English lads/ teams always will have a tough ask at these events. The FA and the 38 match schedule + extra cups keeps us out because of fixture congestion.

Who was the last Englishman who won the Ballon d’Or? Plays for United as well and can still score a useful goal or two when given a game.
January 17, 2012 at 16:55
bruce thomas says:
If he was as good with his feet as he is with his hands, that would be the midfield sorted.
January 17, 2012 at 16:56
King Eric says:
Ha. Pastore. Another over rated greedy cunt. The Mail says Rentboys closing in on Hazard. MUST be true. Why don’t folk let fergie get on with buying who he likes? Rarely let’s us down now does he?
January 17, 2012 at 17:33
RedFury says:
what’s the point of buying players from other clubs when we can ‘make’ them? Buying ‘world class’ players would degrade the selling club. Now what’s the fun in playing against a weaken top club when you can battle with all might?

Yes, buying proven players can be crucial. But not buying doesn’t mean we’re rolling into the gutter. Plus, we’re..let’s say the best out there, because we’re made up of home grown players, or at least ones we bought at an early age, not relying on other clubs’ best player.
January 17, 2012 at 17:35
iced earth says:
hello everyone,i watched few games of pastore both with palermo and psg,he is overrated,it s same with hazard he is no cristiano,and his style of play is very simelar to nani or young,we need someone like silva or di maria,gaitan i think is the ansewer,also gotze will fit well in our team but his price tag is an obstacle +35million,maybe fergie will go for uknowen player like rasmus elem,or ki sung yeung,but for sure not this month
January 17, 2012 at 17:36
King Eric says:
Saad. Poor mans David Blaine. Are you serious? Blaine is a fucking clown who sits in boxes for days. Yeah great. Have you seen much of Dynamo mate? He shits all over that fucking ponce.

Kanchelskis and gaz. Spot on. Couldn’t give a fuck about Pastore and the next flavour of the month. Abd yes Jones signing did excite me. Knew he would be top drawer and you can check the archives. Personally and I aint been Xenophobic I would like to see more British quality players.

Smartalex. That list by that lad is excellent. Yeah what did happen to half way line flags?

Clayton Blackmores tan. Top list pal.

Samuel. Yeah good call. I said a while back Joe Allen is a quality little player. Big Scholes fan too is the kid!
January 17, 2012 at 17:36
Ojordan09 says:
Poor Tom never got to do a trick…
January 17, 2012 at 17:38
smartalex says:
Dillan,

you named Berbatov, Nani, and Rooney as the last 3 ‘exceptional talents’ we have lured.

Didn’t we get Anderson at the same time as Nani, for the same price?
Or are you judging purchases by how they turn out? That doesn’t work mate.

Who’s to say that Pastore or Gotze would be in Berba-Nani-Roon ‘exceptional talents’ class?
And for a signing to make me giddy, he’d have to be already the best in the world, which doesn’t apply to either of those two.

Giddy? Probably have to be Sir Alex’s grandson signing, or similar.
January 17, 2012 at 17:43
soren says:
I didn’t know him, he’s good.
January 17, 2012 at 17:43
James21 says:
Who do we need? I keep seeing posts calling for signings yet I can’t see anything wrong with what we have already. If SAF 1st choice team were all fit and getting games together we’d be past shitty and miles ahead of Spurs. You can’t just go out and sign a top class player to cover for the loss of Vidic, he’d probably turn round and say what happens when Vidic is back? Piss Off! SAF wanted to give Tom Cleverly a chance but its been unfortunate that he got injured. Carrick is playing well and deserves his slot in the team. Seams to me some fans are panicking because of the shitty threat and rightly so but SAF won’t go out and buy just because shitty are doing well, we’re only 3 points behind the self proclaimed English Barcalona. Be patient. 20
January 17, 2012 at 17:46
smartalex says:
ClaytonBlackmoresTan – Thousands suffer in mortified silence.

You do not!

Well said sir. There’s even a worthy mantra woven through your angry cry.
Speak out and often, we shall end the squalid tyranny.
January 17, 2012 at 17:47
KingOfStretfordEnd says:
Cahill’s at chelsea. Oh no. We can’t compete in the transfer market. Noooo.
January 17, 2012 at 17:48
gaz says:
Pastore is an overrated shit face and the boss knew that, fuck the rent boys and bitters with there plastic artificial small time clubs throw yer money around we are United and we will never die!
January 17, 2012 at 17:51
CedarsDevil says:
Evening all

On the main page its got this thread as having 47 posts yet when I got on I found only 38, last one by King Eric at 16:56.

Anyone else having this problem?
January 17, 2012 at 17:55
CedarsDevil says:
Ah they now appear…gremlins of sorts

James

Well said pal, all this buy this, but that paranoia is bollocks. Just imagine if some of these nutters were at the club!
January 17, 2012 at 17:58
LoneStarRed says:
@ClaytonBlackmoresTan Looks like that was good therapy to get it off your chest. Enjoyed it. As a proper Yank I didn’t understand half of it but enjoyed it nonetheless.
January 17, 2012 at 17:58
James21 says:
Cedars. Hi mate
I had problems yesterday, but seams ok now. M19ke had some problems last week.
January 17, 2012 at 18:01
CedarsDevil says:
gaz

Loving your rants, seems King Eric & bobbycharlie1968 may have some competition on that front!
January 17, 2012 at 18:02
smartalex says:
KingOfStretfordEnd – Hysterically funny mate! Ha Ha Ha Ha ! !
January 17, 2012 at 18:10
gaz says:
@CedarsDevil

Cheers mate but the rants that those 2 put up are fucking legendary! Bobbycharlie 1968s today was one of sheer artistic beauty!
January 17, 2012 at 18:14
CedarsDevil says:
gaz

Cannot argue with that…. I often wonder what it could be like having a cold one with those two in full flight! Just imagine the conversation…. I would be on my back half the time pissing myself
January 17, 2012 at 18:18
smartalex says:
The Fiver takes a factual but humorous look at Mancini’s card waving:
“The Fiver can be an upstanding citizen. That is why we occasionally roam the streets in search of illegally parked cars before tracking down a traffic warden and frantically waving an imaginary clamp.”

Darlington FC:
“It is a measure of just how stringent the FA’s fit and proper persons test for football club owners is that George Reynolds passed with flying colours despite having spent several spells in the Big House for smuggling watches, safe-cracking and handling explosives before making his money out of chipboard (selling it, not whittling it into the shape of tenners) and buying Darlington Football Club in 1999.”

amongst other targets.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/17/the-fiver-imaginary-cards-darlington?newsfeed=true
January 17, 2012 at 18:20
Saad says:
@King Eric

David Blaine made street magic what it is today. This Dynamo’s got nothing on him!
January 17, 2012 at 18:29
Lodi3000 says:
1. De Gea (age 21) landed in Manchester six months
after Lindegaard (age 27). 2. Only once in his run of starting matches did De Gea
have the same back four in front of him for
consecutive weeks. 3. Now, of the keepers who have played in excess of
900min this year (or ten games): a. Only Wolves Wayne Hennessey, who averages five
saves per game, has had to make more saves than De
Gea’s four. (Some other notables: Howard 2.1, Krul
2.4 .Reina 2.7, Hart 3, Al Habsi 3.5, Friedel 3.7) b. De Gea has the fourth best save % at 74% behind
Schwarzer, Friedel and Hart. 4. While Lindegaard’s numbers look very good, bear in
mind his starts (and clean sheets) for United are
against: Norwich, Sunderland, Villa, Fulham and Wigan
prior to conceding at Newcastle and City. In that time
he averaged making 2.7 saves per game. In short -
Lindegaard rose to united’s no.1 on the back of United’s best defensive performances of the year
(which tie in with Sir Alex re-stabilising the defence
after that hiding from City)
January 17, 2012 at 18:35
Zibbie says:
Hello a fun RoM new threads!!!
King Eric so glad Ruth is well, and spot on about transfers.
James Well said, team looks good.
TC back in training he will be there for the run in for 20!
SAF has a pattern for the transfer market, Jan window not much movement in the past
SAF has long term targets, he has known of Fetchers illness for a year now.
In the summer look for similar action as last summer, he got 3 of 5 targets.
Forget Pogba and Ravel the academy always produces, the pantry looks well stocked.
January 17, 2012 at 18:36
CedarsDevil says:
Cedars, TonyBee & John Terry are all on a plane. its a very small plane with two tiny engines….

Suddenly the plane starts hobbling, the pilot turns around and says ‘Sorry fellas we’ve lost one of the engines and need to lose some weight’

TonyBee with so much baggage with him starts to throw out his suit cases in a nervous frenzy

Cedars with hardly anything on him looks around, grabs Terry and chucks him out..
January 17, 2012 at 18:39
FletchTHEMAN says:
MEN have an article that Ole has been tipped by Fergie to manage United.

Don’t really see it that way, seems rather similar to previous statements from Fergie praising Ole for his work in Norway. Anyway, read it yourselves.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1470887_sir-alex-ferguson-tips-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-as-potential-manchester-united-boss

I think Ole needs another 10 years and maybe do well in Europe. Think he has said he is in Norway for a few years for his kids as well. Anyway, just feel that this is a simple complement from Fergie and not much more in it. Guess we will see.
January 17, 2012 at 18:49
Paul Parker says:
Dynamo is class, how in the hell did he do either trick? Seems a decent bloke as well and im yet to see him in a jersey except United. Some magic on Sunday Dyno if you will? Ta!

Glad I missed the match last night. Saw Gary doing the analysis after and the league leaders looked woeful as expected. City will have a much harder time against Spurs, they’ll be desperate to draw level with us and it should be a top game before ours kicks off. But then again which Spurs will show up? They could go there and end City’s home record, or they could just as easily bottle it, get spanked, and fall out of the top 3 for another 20 years. Soon find out.

As for Berbatov, can’t see him leaving in January as heaven forbid, if we had a striker crisis we know Dimmy can step up and deliver the goods. Beyond the odd appearance or brief run of games he’s never ever had our Squad built around him like Spurs, but his goal return and golden boot tell you all you need to know about the bugger – he’s class.

As for imcoming transfer rumours, Scholes is a top January signing ffs! Who is slagging off Arsenal for bringing back Herny for Europe? Is it the Va Va Voom factor or what? We should all be grateful to sign a player of Scholes’ class for next to nothing, and I’d much rather have him back then rush out and buy “whoever” anyway. United will be in a better position to see what we really need after May so a knee jerk-reaction would be disadvantageous. Thats how FSW and KKK keep fucking up Liverpool, by making popular-yet-stupid compulsive purchases. More importantly, we have a good enough Squad to win it in 2011/12 so lets worry about next season in the summer aye?

@Fletch – All those awards need a pinch of salt anyway as theres no way Nedved had a better season than Scholes in midfield in 2002/3. Thats not to say the winner doesn’t usually deserve it they normally do, but Scholes was head and shoulders above everybody that particular season, and while everyone gushes about him nobody bloody votes for him at the awards – its a strange one. Having said that, considering the unsurpassed money in the English game and the high standard of living in Blighty the English should all be ashamed that more world class players don’t emerge from these shores. Where’s the National English Academy of Excellence? Qatar, probably.
January 17, 2012 at 18:53
James21 says:
Where’s the National English Academy of Excellence? Qatar, probably.
The punch line was well worth the wait. Nice one Paul.
January 17, 2012 at 18:55
iced earth says:
manchini are trying to play mind games,and trying to put some perssure on officials,he should learn from the master,the poor manchini!!no one take his comment seriously,forget about him he is wasting his time,need to focus in our next game,it will be massive,the first difficult match of the series of away match,we must win it,it willgive us boost in all aspect,if we lose it will be hard to conserve our title,many will not agree with me but spurs can t defeat city,mark my word,they will find it difficult to finish in the top4,don t expect other team do us favour &beat shity,rising our game is the key
January 17, 2012 at 18:57
dazbomber says:
Did any one see when he went to America some of the illusions where out of this world the best I’ve seen .

ClaytonBlackmoresTan- superb .
By the way Valencia’s wing performance against Bolton was the best since Ronaldo.
January 17, 2012 at 18:59
FletchTHEMAN says:
PaulParker. Well said about Scholes. But this award is first and formost about team performance and your club pretty much has to win the CL and or domestic league and or WC. At least over the last few years. Messi is a good player, but the reason he is top of the pile is that Barca have been outstanding for 3 years. Actually surprised that Xavi hasn’t done better given Spains performance. Anyway, If United win CL, and England do well in Euros, Rooney will get another look for Ballon dOr. If Scholes wins us the EPL and plays for England and they win, don’t count him out either. Ballon dOr at 38, that would be a laugh eh.

Bottom line, the competition is pretty brutal innit?!
January 17, 2012 at 19:01
wayne says:
Anyone slagging off David Blaine needs to watch some DVD and not the bollocks he does to test his physical endurance,his street magic is fucking brilliant he levitates.Blaine is one of the best out there the shit he does up close never seen anyone else do it
January 17, 2012 at 19:01
Sparkz says:
Go back to the start of the season, when we were flying. The Sky cameras used to pan to our subs bench……..and we used to see Giggs, Park and Hernandez warming up on the touchline, ready to come on.
Sitting down behind them were Fabio, Fletcher and Berba.
Watching from the stands due to injury, we had Rio, Vidic, Carrick, Valencia and Owen.

Now at that time, our squad looked friggin mint. Obviously since then, we’ve suffered a ridiculous amount of injuries so we look threadbare. The fact that we’re still 3 points off the top is a testament to us. But don’t let the injuries fool you into thinking we need a massive overhaul of the squad. Certainly don’t need another winger! Once we’ve got players back fit, you’ll see what a top squad we do actually have.
I genuinely think that we’ve got a squad that’s as strong (if not stronger) than City’s. They’re missing a few players and they’re struggling. Imagine if they had all the injuries we did.

Could we do with a midfielder? Yes. But as I’ve said before….going out and buying a midfielder would hinder the progress of Cleverley, Tunni, Morrison, Pogba etc (if the latter 2 are staying). We could go and buy a midfielder this month….and they may even do a good job.

But when Cleverley comes back, what’s gonna happen? Will this new signing be happy to drop to the bench? No. What about next year, if Fergie decides that one of the boys from the Youth Team is gonna get more first team opportunities? Again…will this new January signing be happy? No.

That’s why Scholesy is almost a win win situation. He’s not coming with a big contract, nor is he coming with an expectation that he’ll be a first teamer. He’ll do a job for us, but when Cleverley’s back, he’ll be happy to go and sit on the bench.
January 17, 2012 at 19:05
dazbomber says:
Interesting fact , we have scored more goals against Arsenal than any other team in the league 328 in 213 games.
January 17, 2012 at 19:05
Zibbie says:
Paul Giggs, the 2 make one mf player. hehe
January 17, 2012 at 19:08
CedarsDevil says:
dazbomber

Interesting indeed, never knew that…… Hope the streak continues next weekend then
January 17, 2012 at 19:12
dazbomber says:
CedarsDevil- I think it will be another cup final game for them but I hope and think we will have to much for them
January 17, 2012 at 19:15
CedarsDevil says:
dazbomber

If we keep RVP quiet we should be fine, only threat from their team that I can think of
January 17, 2012 at 19:15
smartalex says:
Ryan Scholes will probably be our best midfielder this season, apart from maybe Carrick.
January 17, 2012 at 19:16
smartalex says:
Zibbie – thanks for the idea! Good one!
January 17, 2012 at 19:19
Paul Parker says:
@Saad/Wayne – gotta disagree on Blaine mate, he caught my attention ripping chickens heads off and putting them back on, and throwing cards against the INSIDE of a locked car window, but then he lost me with all that sitting in a glass box bollo. Seemed completely up his own arse once his stock was high tbh. I rate Pen and Teller over Blaine anyday, at least they have genuine shock value and countless acts. Plus they break down their tricks after and thats class, Blaine wants people to think he’s actually levitating!

@Fltech – haha, brutal ain’t the fucking word mate. We’ve done well to consistently have lads in our Squad who are in with a shout against the very best individuals in the world.

@James21 – Boom Boom Tiss!

@Sparks – exactly mate. If we bought somebody now for 30M then saw a return to our early form people would be over joyed. But when we give Tom and Anderson all the time in the world to recover and resign a legend like Scholes people ain’t happy. I’ll never work that one out. Im just patiently waiting to see the same midfield partnership that spanked City, Spurs and Arsenal and beat Barca in pre-season. Even in Summer, I’d much rather see Pogba and Ravel sign 4 year contracts than us bringing in somebody new anyway.
January 17, 2012 at 19:22
CedarsDevil says:
In the 1954 World Cup finals the magical team that was Hungary thrashed West Germany 8 – 3 in the group stages.

Both teams met in the final and the mother of all shocks, West Germany won 3 – 2

Karma can be a bitch, I just hope she’s not around next weekend
January 17, 2012 at 19:23
dazbomber says:
CedarsDevil- I know mate he is quality .
January 17, 2012 at 19:28
Mikekelly12 says:
Dynamo…. He’s not bad but he’s no Paul Daniels. I like him but…. Not a lot!! Hasn’t even got a glamorous assistant like the beautiful Debbie Magee?! Everyone loves Scholes, no surprise Owen was thinking of him, the man oozes class. I however immediately thought of Robbo! So, how the fuck is everyone?
January 17, 2012 at 19:29
wayne says:
Paul Parker difference between Blaine and Penn and Teller Blaine does his magic on street corners 2 inches from people not on a stage.Don’t care about him getting frozen ib ice etc
There is a DVD called David Blaine street magic anyone seeing that,its impossible not to rate him he does shit that is fucked up
One of the greatest magicians ever.Not even close imo
January 17, 2012 at 19:31
Dillan says:
Ok I have a soft spot for Morrison and Pogba wouldn’t mind giving them a chance but its not like United’s giving them chances are we?If they do get their chances than I say sure no need to buy but right now we need some spark in our midfield and for all Scholes class.United shouldn’t be relying on Scholes and with the utmost respect for Paul his signing on just stinks of desperation.
January 17, 2012 at 19:31
CedarsDevil says:
Monkey

Personally I feel fucking great and surprise surprise I thought of Robbo too!
January 17, 2012 at 19:34
dazbomber says:
Mikekelly12-Did you see Pauls wife Debbie on Mrs Merton , she said what attracted you to this ageing millionaire. Laughed my cock off.
January 17, 2012 at 19:37
CedarsDevil says:
dazbomber

RVP is indeed quality, do not need me to sing his praises…. Top quality striker, in fact one of the world’s best
January 17, 2012 at 19:41
Northwalesred says:
Dynamo is the dogs bollocks.much better than boring Blaine. Just wish he’d make KKK and Mancweeny disappear for fucking good.
January 17, 2012 at 19:42
Mikekelly12 says:
Dazbomber
Yeah I did mate. Also saw them on louis Theroux’s weird weekends… And weird was fucking right!!
Cedars, glad to hear it and I had no doubt in my mind who you’d have picked!
Dillan, if they’re not getting a chance it’s because Sir Alex doesn’t think they’re ready and let’s be honest, he knows when someone’s ready. Loved Scholesy’s desperate performance on Saturday and his desperate goal that settled us down! Scholesey asked to play again, how does that make United desperate?!!
January 17, 2012 at 19:46
CedarsDevil says:
I feel naked and desperate at the moment
January 17, 2012 at 19:47
CedarsDevil says:
Northwalesred

Quality!
January 17, 2012 at 19:49
FletchTHEMAN says:
FACup replays:
Hughes has Kiko in the side for QPR v MKDons. Best of luck to Kiko.
January 17, 2012 at 19:51
wayne says:
Whatever I’m guessing anyone not rating Blaine hasn’t seen much of him to call him boring or anything to that effect making yourself look like a idiot to be honest
January 17, 2012 at 19:54
Paul Parker says:
@MikeKelly – Lmao at Paul Daniels, I’ve actually seen him live (everyday I ask how that happened?) and funnily enough he was utter shite and made us laugh for all the wrong reasons. His notorious Cranium is actually bigger in real life as well, defo worth the 5p price of admission alone imo.

@wayne, fair enough mate. I know the old school DVD your on about but between then and now he’s been pretty naff with all these stunts. He’s supposed to be going back to street magic this year anyway, maybe he’s seen Dynamo dazzling the Premier League’s finest?

Speaking of Magicians I wonder if Anderson will make a full appearance this weekend? Say what you want about the fella but he was all over Arsenal in that 8-1 and his delivery for Welbeck’s first was worthy of the Ginger one himself.
January 17, 2012 at 19:55
CedarsDevil says:
wayne

Hi mate – In all honesty I do not know either nor have I ever heard of them so my stance is….

I do not give a flying fuck! hahaha
January 17, 2012 at 20:00
Dillan says:
The fact that United would rely on a retired player.Shows the lack of quality and faith fergie has in our other midfielders and the truth of the matter is we someone special.I think Cleverley is a good player but some people on here rate him way too highly.Based on talent alone.Morrison and Pogba thumps him.This coming from someone who’s been watching Cleverley for some years.
January 17, 2012 at 20:01
Paul Parker says:
@Fletch – cheers for the heads up with Kiko, didn’t even know QPR were playing tonight. Should be more entertaining than watching City anyway!

@Willierednut – Haven’t seen you on here in a while, all the best wherever you are mate!

Laters RoM
January 17, 2012 at 20:05
Gandalf says:
Excellent list that ClaytonBlackmoresTan. May I add 1) skysports half time and post match analysis… how they are more interested in shit stirring and targeting the controversial incidents and miss out on the chances actually made from either teams from their analysis. Really, the time they spend on talking about these are ridiculous. 2) how they zone in on rooney all the time, conveniently forgetting nani, valencia and other top performers – similarly for other english players like terry. 3) arry the top top manager.
January 17, 2012 at 20:05
captaink9 says:
He’s in the nut house P Parker
January 17, 2012 at 20:07
Mikekelly12 says:
Paul Parker
You actually saw him live!!!! I’m in ore of you pal. Did he do the bunko booth!! Way heeey!! Proper shit. Agree with the Blaine comment. He was awesome when he did his street magic, but I think he actually started believing he was magic!! Those stunts were just for self publicity in my opinion and not an attempt to showcase illusions! Anyway the undoubted winner in the battle of magicians is the late great Tommy Cooper…… Jus like tha…
January 17, 2012 at 20:07
Paul Parker says:
@Dillian – just saw your comment about Cleverley, gotta disagree. After seeing him played out of position for England I was pleasantly surprised to see his composure on the ball since returning from Wigan. He’s got bags of talent, and I don’t mean hypothetically or potentially either. When pray-tell have Pogba or Morrison ever performed against the likes of Barca, City, Spurs and Arsenal anyway?

I won’t wait for the answer mate, as between them I don’t think Pog and Rav and amassed so much as 90 minutes of senior football have they? I rate those kids highly put they’ve achieved fuck at at senor level, at least Cleverley has earned and retained a spot in our starting 11.

Laters Reds.
January 17, 2012 at 20:09
roflater says:
the dynamo gary neville one was well good as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fakb8P9mtEM&feature=channel_video_title
January 17, 2012 at 20:10
wayne says:
Cedars first time I saw Street Magic it blew me away and I’m not easily impressed.Some have a problem with his personality but to say he’s boring or not a good magician is like saying Rooney can’t play football.Comments made in ignorance just for wind up reasons
January 17, 2012 at 20:14
Paul Parker says:
@MikeKelly – yeah it was ages ago and they were practically giving away tickets. Walked in late and didn’t stay for the whole show, it was 30 minutes of my life I’ll never get back unfortunately. Blame the missus, I tried to explain he was the shittest magician since Pooter the Clown but she wouldn’t listen!
January 17, 2012 at 20:31
xol says:
Phil Nev’s answering questions on twitter. Who do you think should take over for sir alex when that time comes?? “giggs”.

It’s an interesting one. I think of Blackpool away and other occasions where he’s been inspirational. So many times where he appears to be giving advice to younger players, aware of the boss’ feelings about so many things. He’s there to stop over zealous goal celebrations, a wise head that others seem to listen to.
January 17, 2012 at 20:43
dazbomber says:
roflater- That was brilliant.
January 17, 2012 at 20:47
iced earth says:
macheda in qpr team?is he in the starting line up?if he can t get selected for qpr wonder how he wiil can utd?kiko is good player but i don t think he can make it at united,berba leaving or not?if he don t sign he will leave for nothing,meaning 30million lose.
January 17, 2012 at 20:51
xol says:
haha Paul Daniels’ oversized cranium. What a great band name.

Actually, I used to have a Paul Daniels magic book of tricks and some were pretty good. Don’t like the guy so I’ll spill the beans.

Tell a friend in advance that you’re going to ring at an arranged time. That friend will answer your call and immediately count from 2 to 10 followed by jack, king, queen and ace. The friend will cease the count when you say, “Hi is that the magician?” and will then say ,”Clubs, Hearts, Diamonds, Spades”. The friend will cease when you say, “There’s someone here who wants to speak to you”, at which time you will pass the phone to a member of your audience who has previously selected a random card (for only those in the room to see). Your ‘Magician’ then tells the card holder what card they have selected.
January 17, 2012 at 20:55
Rai says:
He’s magic you know….it’s hard to believe its not Scholes
January 17, 2012 at 21:05
gaz says:
@Dillan

Seriously ” A retired player” that player is Paul Fucking Scholes i would have the ginger prince over some 2 bit shitarse mercenary everyday of the week Scholes is united through and through and if he felt he didnt have anything to offer the team hed have stayed in retirement he loves the club to much to come back just for the cash i and i know a lot of our fellow reds world wide feel its a priveledge to have him back in the squad.As for Tom Cleverly the boy is another united through and through and the kid has bags of ability and will only get better keep him free of injury and im telling you he will be fucking ace Sneijder me fucking HOLE! Tom C all the way. Oh and its Sir Alex Ferguson SAF will do dont want to carry on with “fergie” like those disrespectful apes on the tabloids fucking cunts burn the lot of em…..but id settle for 20!
January 17, 2012 at 21:17
TonyBee says:
any one got a topic….and not fucking sheep shagging again Cedars…….

see Magicians are up for comment….hmmm
January 17, 2012 at 21:20
TonyBee says:
I was at a poker tournament when a gorgeous woman came up to me and said, “Do you know any card tricks?”

I said, “Look love, I’m a professional poker player. I’ve strived for years to perfect my game. I’m not some sort of cheesy gay magician”

She said, “Ah that’s a shame. Magicians make me so horny and wet”

I said, “Pick a card”
January 17, 2012 at 21:21
zelh says:
poor game from kiko.
January 17, 2012 at 21:22
TonyBee says:
What’s the difference between a policeman’s truncheon an a magicians wand?

A police truncheon hasn’t been stuck up Debbie McGee’s twat!
January 17, 2012 at 21:27
Red Nation says:
When I look at Chicharito I see Ole Gunnar, the baby eyes, the smile, the child like happiness, the playing styles even Ole was a better passer and crosser, Chico will get that with age.

This squad is capable of great things, we just need 2-3 signings 5 years ago we called upon Carrick a new era. Now the time has come again.

I hope we are negotiating our transfers now to sign them in July window, Utd are always 1 step ahead,lets hope the glazers aren’t tugging on Fergie’s shirt and pulling him down.
January 17, 2012 at 21:30
samuel - united WE stand says:
i was sceptical about macheda joining QPR. They just don’t play the style of football that would help his game, he was scrapping for second balls all night, has some way to go before fighting for a place at united. Put in a hapless performance, hopefully his next game will be better.
January 17, 2012 at 21:35
legend22 says:
how shite is macheda? tbh i dont think qpr was the best choice but i guess if your a top class prospect then you should sign anywhere.. for example cleverly shone at leicester, watford and wigan.. even though he was played on the left wing shockingly….

what does everyone think about macheda?
January 17, 2012 at 21:42
Fred says:
Papiss Cissé – remember the name.
January 17, 2012 at 21:49
Lodi3000 says:
As much as I love Scholesy, i agree his signing is bit desperate. It makes sense short term, not panic buying coz we do av quality with carrick and clevs. Fletch was obvs big blow after clev getting injured. But don’t forget the ‘stat’ that Scholes is our first midfield ‘signing’ (ha) since Anderson. Thats pretty poor. Sure we have a group who could come through, but they haven’t pushed on yet and these are names we’ve been talking about for nearly two year now. Wouldn’t say we’re short of money having spent 50 mil in summer, but we do need to strengthen the midfield. My heart loves seeing The best midfielder of his generation back in the shirt, but my head tells me we’re only just papering over the cracks.
January 17, 2012 at 21:52
iced earth says:
papisse cisse,another powerful striker from snegal singed by newcastle,no match today,watched few minutes of qpr kiko have a shoker,fortunetly tomorrow will be big day for football amateurs,real vs barca,hope cristiano will kick there ass,can t wait for arsenal game,i can t stop thinking of this match
January 17, 2012 at 21:56
legend22 says:
yeh tomorrow should be good! real vs barca.. watch messi tear them apart and ronaldo flop again.. come on cristiano!!!!! step it up son.
January 17, 2012 at 21:57
Legend22 says:
scholes!!!!!!!!
January 17, 2012 at 22:03
Costas says:
@Fred

Yeah. We’ll probably bid for him when he’s worth 40 million. Our scouts aren’t daft enough to buy him when he’s worth peanuts.
January 17, 2012 at 22:03
Red Nation says:
Papiis Cisse is Demba Bar’s direct replacement, Bar has clause in his contract that will be triggered and he will be sold once he comes back from CAF and agrees to leave.

This is no shock, Toon fans know it already,you can expect Sunderland,PSG, or Liverpool to sign him.
January 17, 2012 at 22:05
slim says:
samuel – united WE stand

To be honest, i never much fancied Kiko. that goal against Villa stands out as one of the truly amazing goals, the technique, the finish, the time and place.Sweet sweet goal. But i never really fancied him. But if he’s scrapping for balls then i’m sure it do him no harm. QPR’s not a bad side and with Sparky there as well can only be a plus.Danny had to scrap for ball early in his premier league career. I used to watch him. Run round the place stretching every sinew to get a touch of the ball. I swear ti must be like going from ford fiesta to a Ferrari.
At this point its all in the boys hands. I hope he’s realizes its sink or swim territory now. Here’s to the next game
January 17, 2012 at 22:05
Costas says:
I meant *our scouts aren’t daft enough to suggest we buy him*.
January 17, 2012 at 22:06
StatesideAussie says:
Fletch … I may be wrong, but if The Berb is being offered around the market now, it will be for one of two reasons: either the club is prepared to offload him now (in the current window), or his agent is laying the ground work in case he walks on a free next summer.

United have said we will extend his contract by a year, but have not actually done so. That was going to happen by January. Now SAF is talking about March or April. But since the extension is pre-agreed in his existing contract (it requires no negotiation and no new money), the only reason for delaying it would be that SAF isn’t sure he wants Berbatov around next year. In that case, if I was Berbatov’s agent, I’d probably be sounding out the market now, too.

However, if it is Berbatov’s agent (rather than the club) who is scouting around the market, it seems unlikely he would leave in January. The club could sell him now and command a fee. But why would Berbatov hunt out a club now and hand the fee over to United, when he can wait six months and keep it all for himself? I don’t think Berbatov is particularly greedy, but what would you do? If it was me, I would: tell my agent to start looking now for possible options in summer; meanwhile, I would keep trying to get back into the first team at United, always knowing that in this business, fortunes can change in an instant.

Just thw way I read it.
January 17, 2012 at 22:08
slim says:
Newcastle getting some “beasts” in. First Ba and now, another Cisse. anyone have the foggiest. Apart from looking the part , i haven’t got a clue, anyone know him?
January 17, 2012 at 22:08
iced earth says:
i am a bit confused about hazard story,i heard that chelsea have agree term with the player,but many french news paper said that we are in pole position and that we will agree a deal in the region of 30million,and hazard will stay at lille and join us by june!
January 17, 2012 at 22:09
Rai says:
Costas – any injury news?
January 17, 2012 at 22:11
TonyBee says:
oooohhh had a joke or two deleted
January 17, 2012 at 22:13
Rai says:
Costas – Reason I ask you is I know you’re well in with the United medical staff…I hear your best buds
January 17, 2012 at 22:18
Costas says:
@Rai

Normally I’d answer mate, but I am not yet familiar with this new physio called Dynamo. I’ll let you know how his magic on Owen and Tom’s injury works as soon as possible.

And, I read somewhere that Bebe will return in 3 weeks. Hallelujah.
January 17, 2012 at 22:19
Fred says:
Costas – yep, I have a feeling his value will have quadrupled by this time next year, just like Tiote’s, Cabaye’s and Ba’s have in their short time with the geordies. Fair play to the barcodes; a few heads were turned when they offloaded some of their “big names” like Barton, Nolan and Carroll in the past 12 months, but they have replaced them with vastly superior foreign players for relative peanuts.
January 17, 2012 at 22:22
Fred says:
…and perhaps proved that there IS value to be found in the transfer market.
January 17, 2012 at 22:22
Fred says:
proven?
January 17, 2012 at 22:23
slim says:
I think its becoming clearer that the great man wasn’t all that keen on this midfielder we “need” to buy,over the summer. If Fergie wanted his man he’d go get him.
January 17, 2012 at 22:24
Costas says:
@Fred

I am sure Liverpool fans are glad to know that the Carroll money bought most of those players. But yeah, definitely steps in the right direction. The only thing they are lacking (at the moment anyway) is a natural leader out there.
January 17, 2012 at 22:28
Costas says:
@slim

Yeah, the Ashley Young signing proved that. Could have used that money for a CM if we wanted to.
January 17, 2012 at 22:35
slim says:
Sheesh, just reading through the comments – can’t believe anyone took “Dillian” seriously.
January 17, 2012 at 22:40
Rai says:
Costas – Let me know how the magician gets on pal we need something…can’t remember the last time we had a fully fit squad. I know there will always be injuries but we seem to be unlucky quite regularly….which bodes well to your theory that it might not just be down to luck….

As for Bebe…he could be the turning point of the season

In regards to the Barcodes…credit where it’s due…they’ve bought very well. To be fair so have we though…Hernandez was a steal….Smalling I thought was a risk but how wrong was I…Jones I thought would be one for the future but he’s surpassed my expectations too…our scouts haven’t done too bad and playing for Newcastle is one thing…playing for us is a totally different level.
January 17, 2012 at 22:44
King Eric says:
Dillan. Ha. Morrison and Pogba piss on Cleverley. Yeah course they do pal. Course they do. I have watched Tom for seven years and the kid is top class. Pass and move. Work rate. Eyes in back of head. Makes us tick. Tenacious. Can score goals. Can create. Those two at present aint in the same league. Oh and I hate that Scholes desperation line. A thirty seven year old Paul is better than any player we could get in a shit jan window. You sound like the abu s with that line. Scholes is class even now. Its funny at the time he retired everyone said it was far too early. A lad of his quality and experience will be vital in the run in. Tell me ONE player that’s available you would rather us sign than him? Go on. Just one that’s available. I also hate the line “its bad wheb our best players are thirty seven“. Why? Giggs and scholes are still two of the best players around when used correctly. Why the fuck don’t folk cut Fergie some slack. He has a bit more idea than any of us what the crack is. Oh back to the Tom thing. Its not just about ability but the correct attitude. Tom has that in spades. Did you see him at fifteen? About four feet and five stone. He has worked his fucking nuts off to be the player he is without moaning and pissing about fucking agents and contracts. A top top young player.

Wayne. Hello mate. I have seen plenty of Blaine. How much of Dynamo have you seen? The mans magic is astounding.
January 17, 2012 at 22:49
Rai says:
^^^^^^^^^
KE – Top post
January 17, 2012 at 23:12
King Eric says:
Rai. Thanks a lot mate. I just HATE that Scholes desperation line. I also hate when people who have never managed a team never mind as successfully as Fergie and try and tell him when and who he should buy. He knows what he is doing. Oh and when they have a pop about blooding players. There is nobody better than Fergie at this.
January 17, 2012 at 23:14
RalphMilnesLeftBoot says:
@ClaytonBlackmoresTan

“Steve McClaren for letting us believe he was alright when he’s clearly a proper bell”

Loved that list but the one above made me spit my fuckin drink out and thats not like me!!! :p
January 17, 2012 at 23:16
Rai says:
We’re not desperate to have taken Scholes back…we’re lucky he changed his mind!!
January 17, 2012 at 23:17
StatesideAussie says:
King Eric … g’day mate, top post, couldn’t agree more. (Nice rhythm to the sentences, too — not sure if you’ve read any James Ellroy, but he writes a bit like that.)

Before his injury, TC was a fucking revelation this season. The sooner he comes back, the better. If he can put his injury behind him, he’s a lad who could easily turn the world on its head. What impressed me most wasn’t just his own skills and performances, it was that he brought out the best in those around him too. He may be one of those uncommon players who somehow serves as a catalyst for others, and what a rare attribute that is. Anderson has never played better than when he was paired with TC. And not just Anderson, others too. It was like witnessing a great conductor leading a great orchestra through its paces. Maybe I’m getting carried away? Well, fuck it, I’m a fan and I’m allowed to.

As for Scholes and Giggs, there’s nothing to add. How fortunate we are to have them available, and to have a manager who sees their value and knows how to get the best out of it. Half an hour of either one of them on the field is worth more than a season-load of effort from half the plonkers some cunts would pay millions for.
January 17, 2012 at 23:22
King Eric says:
Oh dear. Just shows nowt lasts forever. Abramovich being sued for fucking billions amid rumours of cheychan gangsters and assinations. Just shows these two bob clubs like Rentboys are City are built on fuck all.
January 17, 2012 at 23:28
FletchTHEMAN says:
King Eric
Top post. Everyone except Paul Scholes is agreed that Paul retired 1-2 years to early. That it to say, there is nothing desperation about PS18 coming back, he should have never left. Paul just rightly miffed at how the discussion is changing from Paul Scholes midfielder, to Paul Scholes legend/retiree. 6mo getting his head around his new role was just. In fact. He could retire every year and come back Jan 1 if the youngsters need a lesson in quality.

For my money, Paul Scholes is welcome to his spot. If Tom Cleverley can can stay fit we might not need him. But honestly, Paul Scholes is nobodies idea of desperation.
January 17, 2012 at 23:35
Costas says:
@Rai

I am afraid mate that it will be a long time before we are at full strength again. It’s not just Vidic’s injury. It’s Fletcher’s health as well. Yeah we’ve picked more than our fair share of injuries these season (and that had little to do with bad luck), but the losses of those 2 players are massive. They are the backbone of the team defensively.
January 17, 2012 at 23:38
King Eric says:
Stateside. Hello mate. How’s tricks? No I haven’t read anything by him. Will make a point now though! Thanks a lot a lot and spot on about Tom.
January 17, 2012 at 23:44
Red Nation says:
Scholes NOW is better than 95% of the PL midfielders, the only guys at the moment at old guys level is now;

Silva
Song
Meireles
Mata
Danny Murphy
Lucas
Carrick
Cabaye

Why would it be a back ward step ! Desperate for us yes, but take away everything, Scholes has plenty to contribute as a footballer.

Personally I would have preffered to be left in a state of wanting to see more of him but it was not meant to be.
January 18, 2012 at 00:07
StatesideAussie says:
KE … cheers mate. If you want to try Ellroy, I’d start with American Tabloid, a seedy take on the JFK assassination filled with (in his own words) “skakedown artists, rogue cops, wiretappers, soldiers of fortune and faggot-lounge entertainers”. His style is highly unusual, short bullet-like sentences that he fires out like machine-gun bursts. Most people either love it or hate it, so might be best to borrow a copy from your public library if you can, before spending your hard-earned. If you love it, you’ll get hooked. If you don’t you’ll probably quit early on (took my about 10 pages to start getting it). You could also try LA Confidential, which is equally sleazy but the writing is slightly more digestible. If you feel like a tour through the dark stinking underbelly of American life, there’s no better tour-guide than Ellroy!

(From the author’s introduction to American Tabloid) “America was never innocent. We popped our cherry on the boat over and looked back with no regrets. You can’t ascribe our fall from grace to any single event or set of circumstances. You can’t lose what you lacked at conception …

“Jack got whacked at the optimum time to ensure his sainthood. He talked a slick line and wore a world-class haircut. He was Bill Clinton minus pervasive media scrutiny and a few rolls of flab.

“It’s time to demythologize an era and build a new myth from the gutter to the stars. It’s time to embrace bad men and the price they paid to secretly define their time. Here’s to them.”
January 18, 2012 at 00:08
King Eric says:
Fletch. Cheers mate. Spot on.
January 18, 2012 at 00:41
FletchTHEMAN says:
But both MartinSamuel at the DailyMail & Andy Mitten in the Daily Post are talking about the return of Cristiano Ronaldo. What are they smoking over there lads?

Daily Fail will print anything. But Andy Mitten? What do you lads thin? Not going to give it the time of day. But Andy is usually a bit more circumspect. Only God knows

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/sport-news/man-utd-fc/2012/01/17/ex-man-united-star-considers-paul-scholes-esque-return-55578-30144784/
January 18, 2012 at 00:42
FletchTHEMAN says:
Here is the same story with a bit more scull and cross bones from Martin Samuel

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2088036/Crisitano-Ronaldo-Manchester-United-makes-sense–Martin-Samuel.html?ITO=1490

Bit of night time reading for the late night lads.
January 18, 2012 at 00:58
dannysoya says:
Impressed with Newcastle’s team building they’ve signed cisse. that dude is SUPERB. he was superb in the bundesliga. If Ba somehow stays Oh shit they can be very good for a while.
January 18, 2012 at 01:13
StatesideAussie says:
I can’t see CR coming back. Though I do hear he has been getting stick from The Virus faithful, despite scoring 53 goals in 54 appearances last season, and being firmly on track to repeat the feat this season with 26 from 27 so far (so what the fuck is up with the fans over there?). But I can’t see him coming back. Love to have him, but I guess it would have to be at the expense of WR — just the way I see it.

Off topic but hilarious: a company down here in Australia has won a court battle for approval of a trademark for their new line of snacks, called “Nuckin Futs”. The trademark had been rejected by the trademark examiner, who deemed it an “obvious spoonerism” of “fucking nuts” and therefore was scandalous and offensive. But the company successfully argued in court that the words “fuck” and “fucking” could not be offensive because they are commonplace in everyday Australian language, and were “now part of the universal discourse of the ordinary Australian”. The court agreed and ordered the trademark to be approved. Bloody right, too.

However, the court ordered the product cannot be marketed to kids.

I think this is a company called Nobby’s Nuts, whose ad slogan has always been “Nibble Nobby’s Nuts”.
January 18, 2012 at 01:18
StatesideAussie says:
Fletch … well, to be fair to Martin Samuel, who does do a decent job of hedging his bets as to the credibility of the story, which stems from a rumored “meeting” between CR7, his agent Mendes and david Gill at the Les Ambassadeurs club in London:

“At no stage has this meeting been confirmed by any of the parties, but the talk will not subside, either. Of course, there are some fevered imaginations in football; in the press box, too. Equally, Ronaldo, Mendes and Gill might have come together entirely by chance. Les Ambassadeurs is a common haunt for football people. All three men are acquainted and are known there. If Gill found Mendes and Ronaldo having coffee, why wouldn’t he join them? Newspapers often get tips about supposed clandestine discussions that turn out to be nothing more sinister than old friends bumping into each other on familiar territory.”
January 18, 2012 at 02:14
keano86 says:
@SMARTALEX – have a word with whoever sent you that list and politely remind them that Africa isn’t in England…

@FletchtheMan cheers good article from that horrible cunt Samuel. Nice to dream of it but we won’t get Ronnie back for a few years yet.
January 18, 2012 at 03:09
Sparkz says:
I wouldn’t have Ronaldo back tbh. Brilliant player for us, but his attitude in his last season stunk at times (think of Rooney at certain times this season and multiply it by 10!). Remember even Fergie had to give him a dressing down on a couple of occasions that season for his attitude during games. And was it vs Sunderland where he subbed himself? Since his move to Madrid, his ego’s gone up a few more notches as far as I can tell.

If we were to bring him back, it’d be a very different move to Scholesy’s. Scholesy’s here for 5-6 months, and once the injuries heal up, he’ll basically be a squad player. Ronaldo’s young enough for it to be a long term, 4-5 year signing. And he’ll be a pretty much guaranteed starter. Considering we’re tryna build a new team…and the likes of Nani and Rooney have stepped up to the plate since he left….it’d be a bad bad move to bring him back IMO.

In any case, as someone above said…it’s tabloid rubbish lol. Worth debating anyway though, just for the sake of discussion.
January 18, 2012 at 03:56
JC says:
Red Nation – not to be a dick here but I almost pissed myself with laughter when I saw you include Danny fucking Murphy in the same sentence as Paul Scholes… And Song… really now taking the piss are you… great joke mate, unless of course you were trying to be serious to wit I would say put the crack pipe down before you write next time.
January 18, 2012 at 04:10
KingOfStretfordEnd says:
@smartalex

a belated wink at ya mate. lol.

Ronny. Ah, it’s nostalgic even when i write that. It’s not about whether we want him back, I doubt it’ll even happen, but if it does, I’d be glad! Got nothing to do with whether he’ll be useful, too old etc, it’ll just be awesome if he comes back. He’s just a big part of the Manchester United history, and it’ll be like reliving the memories he’s given. It’s always nice to have a unique character back. And everybody hates him (except United fans), everybody hates us (except United fans). It’s like we’re fated to be.
I’m in the romantic era now. Heh.

Can’t see it happening though. BUT. Only God Knows.
January 18, 2012 at 04:14
KingOfStretfordEnd says:
I always wonder if i’d able to love the next United manager as much as i love Sir Alex now. It’s just impossible. Loving United, that’s permanent, it’ll never change forever, but you need that sort of ‘thing’ with the manager too, to make it a whole package. That’s why it’s been pricking me, it’s just going to feel so wierd and terrible when Sir Alex retires.

BUT. Not if it Ole.
January 18, 2012 at 04:15
KingOfStretfordEnd says:
Damn my typos.
January 18, 2012 at 04:46
Saad says:
Bad game for Kiko, and that’s against the Dons ??!?!?!

It’s all going downhill for the lad, poor fella. Ah, the curse of the hype.
January 18, 2012 at 05:10
Dillan says:
StatesideAussie

You misunderstanding me on this.I’m saying Scholes shouldn’t be our go to guy not to the this day.Scholes is not the player he used to be and Pogba and Morrison are more talented and could turn out to be true world class players.Morrison especially,you making his bad boy image cloud your judgement.His only 18 and knocking on the 1st team door surely that should be an indication.Where was Cleverley at the age of 18?
January 18, 2012 at 06:16
Zibbie says:
TC is ready to become GB’S best MF player.
Carrick, Jones, TC and Ryan Scholes in MF for the run in……
January 18, 2012 at 06:26
Zibbie says:
Tunni will show up next training camp looking like his older brother, with maybe a PL team loan after a full training camp and early season at Old Trafford.

Shhh Shhh meetings for CR7? The Madrid fan sucks, the Spanish press are cunts.
When he left he new a colon camera was to be inserted when he left. No goals against Barca, Messi player of the last 3 years, Ronny 3 time 2nd best.

If and a big if welcome home show pony!
January 18, 2012 at 06:40
smartalex says:
I yearn for no player.

Christiano Ronaldo would improve any squad you care to suggest. Only proven track record could keep him out of an all-time world squad. His natural ability, physical form, technical aptitude and application, his desire and his mentality force him to be included.

I yearn for no player. If Christiano returned I will welcome him as I would any player.
United would move up a level, to be bracketed with Barcelona on paper, and on the field.
January 18, 2012 at 07:25
smartalex says:
“All the talk at the top of the club over the last few months has been of a three-year plan,” a United source told Goal.com. “The Glazers were not sure of Ferguson’s plans so asked David Gill to tell him that his achievements over all these years would be recognised with a deal that would make him the best paid manager in British football.

“There have been a few rounds of talks and the club want it sorted before his annual holiday to the south of France at the end of the season.

“It makes good business sense for the club and the Glazers. Ferguson has always been loyal to them and they feel it is time he was rewarded for the job he has done.”

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/01/18/2852211/manchester-united-in-talks-to-reward-sir-alex-ferguson-with

Goal. com suggest that:
“Sir Alex has been offered a £6.5 million-a-year basic contract supplemented by up to £1m worth of bonuses for a trophy clean sweep. His deal will remain on the same one-year rolling terms that he first committed himself to in 2004 but the new offer represents a 60 per cent pay hike on his current £4m-a-year contract rising to £5m. The structure of the £1m top-up bonuses would remain unaffected by the new agreement.”
January 18, 2012 at 07:26
Zibbie says:
Why does it yearn when I pee? Hehe.
January 18, 2012 at 07:28
Zibbie says:
Pay the MAN!!! Awesome 3 more years of JOY!
January 18, 2012 at 07:29
Costas says:
This has turned into a piss take.
January 18, 2012 at 07:34
smartalex says:
keano86 – I had a polite word with the gentleman concerned. He asked me to thank you for going out of your way to help him. I said that he needn’t bother, as I’m sure it was nothing major in your life. He replied: “keano86, thanks for nothing, mate!”
January 18, 2012 at 07:38
Rai says:
John Terry claims Chelsea can still win the title. Yeah right you big headed cunt. You, your fat friend Frank and your tranny superstar will win fuck all. You’ll look back on your career knowing the highlight everyone remembers is you fucking up that penalty. Your clone of Mourinho hasn’t worked out too well either. No history. No pride. No class. Chelsea FC.
January 18, 2012 at 07:46
StatesideAussie says:
Dillan … how could I misunderstand you? I didn’t read your posts, didn’t respond to you at all (except in the most indirect of ways — I was responding to a post from King Eric, and he might have been responding to you, but I wasn’t).

If the boss isn’t giving Morrison or Pogba (or others) first team time, there’s a reason for it. It’s been said many times on here: football skills and talent alone aren’t enough for a club of United’s stature, quality and ambition (yes, ambition). Indeed, in some ways the obvious skills of a footballer are almost secondary — there are plenty of players in the world who have amazing ball skills, but very few of them are suitable for United, and there have been many United players over the years whose skills were less amazing but who were United players all the way.

But, whatever the reason, SAF obviously thinks they are not ready. I am not privvy to his thinking, but I’m not going to second-guess him. Ask yourself this: do you seriously think SAF would keep them on the sidelines if he didn’t think it was the best thing for the club?

As for Scholes, I am not going to go there. Scholes has more of that “magic United stuff” in him than Morrison or Pogba combined. He farts out what they haven’t even learned to breathe. Does he represent a long-term solution for United? No, of course not. No one is pretending he does — least of all him or SAF. But the thing is, SAF’s job is uniquely difficult, because he has to juggle multiple interests which are often in competition with each other. He has long-term objectives, like rejuvenating the squad, catching up to Barcelona, that sort of thing. He has medium-term objectives, like winning our 20th English title. And he has short-term objectives, like winning the next match. The return of Scholes is clearly aimed at achieving the short and medium-term objectives. The emergence of players like Morrison and Pogba is, in SAF’s mind, more of a long-term thing. And who can say he’s got it wrong? You? Puh-lease, gimme a break.
January 18, 2012 at 07:49
Rai says:
Dillan;
“Scholes is not the player he used to be and Pogba and Morrison are more talented”

Mate you really do need a reality check. That’s a very silly comment.
January 18, 2012 at 07:53
StatesideAussie says:
Zibbie … g’day mate. Why does it yearn when I pee? or how about, “Why Does It Hurt When I Pee?” by Frank Zappa:

Why does it hurt when I pee?
I don’t want no doctor
To stick no needle in me
Why does it hurt when I pee?
I got it from the toilet seat
It jumped right up
N grabbed my meat
Got it from the toilet seat
My balls feel like a pair of maracas
Oh God I probably got the
Gon-o-ka-ka-khackus!

Cheers mate!
January 18, 2012 at 07:56
Dillan says:
I’m not saying their more talented than Scholes?I’m saying their more talented than Cleverley and I stand by that statement.Pogba and Morrison are players the world can fall in love with like rooney.Exceptional talents.Cleverley will be a loved by many but just don’t think he could be as amazing as Morrison
January 18, 2012 at 07:57
CedarsDevil says:
Rai

Morning pal, CLLC actually said that? How deluded is this fella? Had KK Kenny interviewed by a local station last week and he said he believed that the dippers were still in with a chance for the title!

WHAT?
January 18, 2012 at 08:06
FletchTHEMAN says:
60% increase for Sir Alex. Ya baby. Thank you Mr Glazer!
January 18, 2012 at 08:08
CedarsDevil says:
FletchTHEMAN

In his salary?
January 18, 2012 at 08:09
StatesideAussie says:
Dillon … but the question isn’t whether they are more talented (whatever the fuck that means anyway), it is whether they are better able to deliver for the team NOW. That they have talent isn’t in doubt. But if SAF isn’t giving them time in the first team, then obviously what’s in doubt is whether they are ready.

Why do people feel the need to start open warfare by stepping on some players while bigging up their own favorites? Silly question, really, so I’ll shut up.
January 18, 2012 at 08:14
Rai says:
Cedars – Yeah I saw the interview this morning. What a horrible sight at 6am. A close up of that cunt. I seriously wanted to throw something at the TV I’ve never hated a player as much as him….
January 18, 2012 at 08:15
Dillan says:
I’m not slagging off Cleverley just saying I think they’re better talents but on merit Cleverley deserves first team far more and Morrison and Pogba still have a whole lot to prove…Case closed!
January 18, 2012 at 08:19
smartalex says:
Rio on Scholes making a seamless return following a spell in retirement:

“Only a handful of players could do it,” Ferdinand said. “Iniesta, Xavi, Messi – they’re the type of players who look as though they could play football at the drop of a hat at the top level. It’s natural to them.”
January 18, 2012 at 08:27
Zibbie says:
Stateside hello mate! I have turned a bunch of young lads at work to Zappa! Nite out all.
January 18, 2012 at 08:31
CedarsDevil says:
Rai

I think you pretty much summed it up on Scholes, we are indeed lucky that he changed his mind. Cannot argue with your feelings towards CLLC, I would however put Suarez in the same category.
January 18, 2012 at 08:45
CedarsDevil says:
An old one and I am sure most have seen it, still worthy of another look. Full of legends, especially the one at the end….Au Revoir

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOM1k4oLGJU&list=FL0KwenJu1uL1x1ti-WLdhPA&index=91&feature=plpp_video
January 18, 2012 at 08:47
Rai says:
Cedars – Suarez won’t hand around long enough I don’t think…he’ll fuck off to Spain within a year or two. Terry we have to put up with long term…after football he’ll end up a fuckin pundit
January 18, 2012 at 08:47
FletchTHEMAN says:
CedarsDevil That’s the claim. A raise to make SirAlex the highest paid manager in Britain.
Well deserved!
January 18, 2012 at 08:54
CedarsDevil says:
FletchTHEMAN

Well deserved indeed, I am surprised he was not the highest paid manager in Britain already, do you have a list of sorts on manager salaries?

Rai

I suppose you’re right pal, but CLLC as a pundit? God help us all
January 18, 2012 at 08:58
Rai says:
Cedars – if that happens i’ll definitely smash my TV up!

On SAF, I thought his contract in the early part of last decade stipulated he would always be the highest paid manager in the Premier League???
January 18, 2012 at 09:37
iced earth says:
good morning,cleverly is a good player,but don t think he will have the impact that all united fans are waiting from him,he just played 7 games,many of us expecting a lot from tom,puting him in huge perssure,the most important thing is he don t get injured again,and for scholes it s clear that his best year are behind him,he was the best of his generation&my favourite player,but for now?i am not sure he can solve the md problem,pogba&raveal?? let them go,they aren t the class of united
January 18, 2012 at 10:00
CedarsDevil says:
Slow morning on RoM and I really miss Willie, where are you pal?
January 18, 2012 at 10:46
smartalex says:
United’s bid to retain the FA Youth Cup continues tonight (Wednesday) with a difficult tie against highly-rated Derby County.

The victors on the evening, following extra-time and penalties if required, will face a trip to either Portsmouth or Swansea in the fifth round.

http://www.manutd.com/en/Players-And-Staff/The-Academy/Academy-News/2012/Jan/manchester-united-fa-youth-cup-v-derby-preview.aspx
January 18, 2012 at 11:08
King Eric says:
Morning.

Iced earth Cleverley IS a top player and would rather see him all day long than rentboys like Pastore and flavours of month who everytime I watch them with baited breath they are fucking shit.

Rai. Alright mate. Yeah saw that cunt. Why was he being interviewed infront of a Charlton FC advert? Cunt. He did mention Scholes though. As he would being a United fan!

Cedars costas fletch etc. Morning lads.

Stateside. Hello pal. Oh did he write LA Confidential? Not read the book but seen the film.

Oh forgot. Morning smartalex.

Do Spurs need any motivation after Lescott`s claims this morning? “United are our biggest challengers“. Fuck off you nomark prick. United ARE Champions therefore they are OUR biggest challengers. Knob. As I have said all along their arrogance will be their downfall.

Bit of an odd claim from Rio on Scholes and Messi etc. IF messi is still producing at thirty seven then fair enough but he is still a kid. Looking forward to the bitch fights and slaps tonight in the copa del ray. Come on Ronnie turn it on against Barca.
January 18, 2012 at 11:19
CedarsDevil says:
King Eric

Morning pal, seems some on here have been claiming that the re signing of Scholes is some sort of a desperate act by the club, utter bollocks in my opinion how ever I would love your take on the matter and should you chose to respond I expect nothing less than a proper rant.
January 18, 2012 at 11:22
King Eric says:
Hello Zibbie.
January 18, 2012 at 11:26
Rai says:
KE – hello pal, didn’t hear what he said about Scholes…but he’s still a cunt!!! Hope The Virus win today that tip tap shit is over rated
January 18, 2012 at 11:30
smartalex says:
Norwich have sent Ritchie de Laet back to Manchester United after cancelling his season-long loan deal. The 23-year-old Belgian has been hampered by a back injury, which limited his impact with the Canaries.

Boss Paul Lambert said: “Ritchie has gone back to Manchester United. We thank Sir Alex Ferguson for loaning him to us and wish Ritchie well for the future and hope he goes on to have a successful career at Manchester United.”

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/transfer-news/Norwich-cancel-Manchester-United-defender-Ritchie-de-Laet-s-loan-article854978.html
January 18, 2012 at 11:32
smartalex says:
Good morning King Eric!

And Rai, and CedarsDevil, and all Reds listening or not!
January 18, 2012 at 11:35
Balaji Sivaraman says:
Cedars, That is actually nonsense and those people are probably not looking at it logically. I think Sir Alex gave the perfect reasoning to it.

The first reason why Scholes is a better option than any new signing in January is that he doesn’t need time to bed in with the squad and players. He already knows every one at the club inside out. He will start performing immediately. Any new signing will need time for all of the above and looking at City’s form, that is time we don’t have. That is arguably the single greatest reason why re-signing Scholes is better than signing a new player in January.

The second reason is that this is short-term fix. Sir Alex probably has earmarked Cleverley, Tunnicliffe, Morrison, and Pogba as the future options in the middle of the park. Of those four, one is injured, one is on loan and two are not ready according to Sir Alex Ferguson. If he says they’re not ready, then they’re not ready. As simple as that. Some people on here think they can second-guess Sir Alex and say that Pogba and Morrison “are” ready and why are we not playing them. IF they were ready, they “will” play. Period. IF they are not playing in the first team, then they are not ready. Period. Any new signing will need to be tied up to a long-term contract and will eventually curb the development of those four players.

When looking at the above reasoning, then Scholesy is exactly the best option at this point of time. He can provide the helping hand here and there and then be off when the youngsters are ready to take over. No frills, no complaints and he will return to his coaching role. I don’t get why people can’t understand this simple line of thought and have to put this move in a negative light.
January 18, 2012 at 11:35
CedarsDevil says:
Rai

Tip tap shit? fucking hilarious. He’s on steroids pal

Hello smartalex and good day to you
January 18, 2012 at 11:39
Rai says:
Hello Smartalex!

Cedars – Don’t get me wrong Xavi, Iniesta and Messi are awesome….but sometimes I get bored watching their build up play…they’ve got caught up in their own hype and try to walk everything into the net.
January 18, 2012 at 11:41
NotoriousRedDevil says:
@ Stateside Aussie at 22.06 Good post that. I will keep that in my head when I read all Berba speculation which quite frankly up until I read your post was worrying me and simultaneously pissing me off!!! How the move go? You settled back in yet?

If people had said Scholes signing was desperate prior to the Bolton game I could have seen where they were coming from, wouldn’t have agreed with it but would have thought it was a fair argument. The fact after 6 months + out he starts and scores a goal vs Bolton, a very important one I might add, means anyone who calls that signing desperate doesn’t know what they are talking about. He still had IT at his testimonial and we all thought he retired too early. Lets just enjoy the ride.

Have to remember people its January so therefore Championship Manager season. Evans is back, if we can keep our players fit don’t need to sign anyone. Summer…thats a different story. The sooner January ends the better!!!
January 18, 2012 at 11:44
NotoriousRedDevil says:
Who needs newsnow when you have smartalex!!!! Cheers for the De Laet link, once he’s fit another option for our defence. Thats for me is a boost. Thought he played well for Norwich at the start of the season.
January 18, 2012 at 11:45
smartalex says:
Balaji, your plaintive cry echoes through the barren chambers of derelict minds.
We call out, again and again, all to no avail.

Each and every butterfly flap sends quivers of discontent through paranoid fans.
As the rain and the sun, our life cycles inexorably from heaven to hell, to heaven to hell.

Shine on, Brother!
January 18, 2012 at 11:46
CedarsDevil says:
Rai

I never watch them full spot. In fact since the Milan team of the early 90′s I hardly watch anything outside the PL, just find it too boring and that is one of the reasons why I cannot debate about players on the Continent, I am just clueless
January 18, 2012 at 11:47
iced earth says:
if the like of de leat,king,kiko,bebe,and others can t make it at team like norwich or qpr,wounder how they will can utd,diouf can t even get in the senegal team of the afrquen cup,no chance he is able to play for us,we should let those players leave,we need there wages for one or 2 confirmed talents
January 18, 2012 at 11:48
smartalex says:
Old snow, new snow, there’s a blizzard of United news out there, I catch the best snowflakes.

Icy fresh news, served daily.
January 18, 2012 at 11:49
CedarsDevil says:
Balaji

Great to have you back and back with a belting post. I do not have the skills of smartalex to offer you a proper greeting so I will just say this…….. Welcome back!
January 18, 2012 at 11:51
Dillan says:
As soon as De Laet’s fit.He’ll be a good option for United.I ask again where on earth is Petrucci?Smartalex how highly do u rate Josh King?
January 18, 2012 at 11:53
gaz says:
Scholsy is gold its impossible to buy that talent/ability and love for the red jersey and he still shits on any of those twats like fucking Pasturised of what ever the overrated cunts name is. I hate when people get there cocks out over a fucking name of some overrated fool who plays in Serie Shit.

Cleverly will be top class needs to get a good run going like at the start of the season when we were spanking teams his release of the ball to our devasting wingers was one of the main reasons we smashed in so many goals! special mention to John Cockend Terry your fucking alarm clock is ringing you dirty Chlesea cunt go fuck cahills wife you horrid haired fag.
January 18, 2012 at 11:53
Dave Malaysia says:
Tom Cleverly, is a United supporter playing for his club, thats just for starters.

He is level headed,so far everything points to it, matured for his age, like Wellbeck.

Trusted by the manager ,sent out on loan,did so well people outside United have been so impressed with him ,as with Wellbeck.

Those of us following his career,know how good this kid is but only expected him to start from the bench ,maybe on the wings .

But lo behold, the kid is thrust straight into that midfeild, as like a duck to water is impressed us so much. Kudos to Fergie and his team.

By the way ,Tom,like Wellbeck are part of the rebuilding of our football side of United.
Thats why Fergie hired Rene and others, to change our system to a Euro/Dutch/Brazillian style of coaching.
These kids are product of that system.

Tom has now been clearly earmarked as Scholes replacement. He only needs to continue the right attitude,learn,gain more experience.
He is a good kid.

We have gold here, support him, encourage him, be critical without destroying someone special to us all, he is going to bring us so much joy and happiness.

Lets hope this injury does not dogged him, cos ankle injuruies are tricky, difficult to be precise with comebacks.
Paul Scholes in the meantime helps us cover that midfeild.

Have Faith.
January 18, 2012 at 11:56
CedarsDevil says:
gaz

Quality post! Cracked me up

Laters RoM
January 18, 2012 at 11:56
iced earth says:
i heard that petrucci was called by ferara to italy under 21
January 18, 2012 at 11:57
Dave Malaysia says:
I spy with my telesscope, a camel 2 hump Alongside Thamby Balaji Silverman!
January 18, 2012 at 12:03
smartalex says:
Dillan – I can only rate Josh King by what i read on him. It’s best to ask King Eric, and other fans that might have seen him up close. I’ll learn, and then agree with what they say!
January 18, 2012 at 12:06
Balaji Sivaraman says:
smartalex and Cedars, Cheers! Good to be back!

Dave, I think your telescope is deceiving you. I am back in India, so it should probably be a two hump buffalo.
January 18, 2012 at 12:07
parryheid says:
NotoriousRedDevil.

I thought Scholes return was a desperate measure when it happened and still think it’s desperate.That apart I still want him playing vs Arsenal for part of the game as our options really are poor but hey that’s maybe just me. The window is still open so we may yet get a couple of mids in yet.
January 18, 2012 at 12:09
gaz says:
@CedarsDevil

Cheers man it does my nut in people pining for overrated expenisve fuck wit mercenarys when we have talent like Clevs and Welbz! i wonder how much those 2 would be worth if they were on the transfer market? If Jagerfarts and Bendershit went to the dippers for 55 mill our two kids must be easily double that!
January 18, 2012 at 12:14
iced earth says:
any news about arsenal game?any fresh injuries?or surprise comeback from cleverly?will vermilen be fit?heard that henry is doubtfull,hope we win,this week willbe crucial both for us and shity,a bad result wil afeect us for the remiinder of the season,lescot said that spurs can t win epl,but if they manage to shock theme,shity will be wounded
January 18, 2012 at 12:24
Dave Malaysia says:
@smartalex: We need to do an intervention for @Balaji Silverman!

The poor chap has discarded his beautiful camels for buffaloes! It must be an ass thing.

Thanks for bart,hunting last night.
January 18, 2012 at 12:25
bobkoh says:
If the Dynamo can teach Roo some magic with the ball….I got it, no Welbeck’s got, hey Scholsy’s got it and its now in the net!
January 18, 2012 at 12:34
Dave Malaysia says:
@Balaji ‘Buffolo’ Silverman : Hows settling in going on dude?

This comments about Tom, then pogba/morrsion dosent seem balanced. Me thinks the guys commenting maybe just dont understand the club.

Pogba/morission itself have differences, huge differences in thier personal lives and attitude.

Sure skillful but definately not ready yet for the first team. They might surprise us,since pobga is on the bench few times now.

Well, keep up with the comments bud.

@smartalex: thks for ze articles on Fergie. arigato.
January 18, 2012 at 12:41
Balaji Sivaraman says:
Dave, All settled in and doing great. Since I joined back with the same office, work is also going smoothly.

Got my stomach checked with a specialist and it seems I have something called Acid Reflux at the highest grade (grade-III). I’ve been given tablets for 10 days and asked to go an oil-free diet for the same period. After that, I’ve to go back to him and we’ll see whether a non-invasive laser surgery is needed to repair the damaged cells in the stomach so they don’t go on to become cancerous much into the future. Before that, I am planning to get a second opinion on whether the surgery is mandatory or is just a way to milk money from me. Either ways, it is not as serious as it sounds but it definitely has made my life uncomfortable over the past year and still doing so. So, the sooner I get it fixed permanently, the better.
January 18, 2012 at 12:41
Costas says:
Good to hear Ritchie is back. He could come in handy when the Da Silvas get injured again.
January 18, 2012 at 12:43
Balaji Sivaraman says:
Costas, I love that there is no “conditional” in that statement.
January 18, 2012 at 12:43
NotoriousRedDevil says:
@ parryheid – How you feeling mate? Remember you were in a bit of bother around X-Mas/New Year time. Hope you’re better.

The transfer windows restrict trade, add to that the CL and Europa and the whole being cup tied fiasco, and us not being in the CL. These are all factors you have to take into account when signing players in Jan. Leaves us with very few options and the types of players we would go after would instantly alert all the other European super powers and then starts a bidding war, a war we simply cannot win. Essien, Benzema, Robben and Nasri all lay proof to that.

Scholes signing is simple, manager would have told him on your bike if he wasn’t good enough and vs Bolton although a tiny rusty at times still looked better than our current number 8 and many other players in the PL. His goal vs Bolton won’t be his last, he knows he’s fortunate to get a second bite of the cherry and I’m sure he’ll play like it till the end of the season if not beyond.
January 18, 2012 at 12:47
Costas says:
@Balaji

Didn’t know about your health issue mate. Hope you get over it soon.
January 18, 2012 at 12:49
Costas says:
And yeah, I fully expect both twins to come down with something until the end of the season. 5 months with both guys completely healthy sounds too good to be true.
January 18, 2012 at 12:53
Dave Malaysia says:
@Balaji: Good to hear. As for the acid thing, well its good ur finally found what the problem is.

I wud recomend u try ayurvedic or siddha medicine first, cos its a standard ailment. Meaning there are herbs and a vegetarian diet u can follow to help.
Its not easy with the standard oily diets in south india. But I gurantee if u get the ayur or siddha consult, no need surgery. Ur afterall in the south, the land of ayur /siddha.

I am glad its not a crtitical illness.
January 18, 2012 at 12:55
Costas says:
I’ve been on the fence about the Scholes issue for a while. Even though it’s very weird that we’ve lured a player out of retirement instead of signing someone on loan, there are a few parameters that make this signing a good move for us short term.

If we hear talks about offering Paul a contract extension for 12-13, then I’ll start worrying if we are ever going to strengthen the midfield area. similar to that, imo it will also be a mistake if we put our eggs into Fletcher’s basket and hope that his return will solve the problem.
January 18, 2012 at 12:57
Theyalwaysscore says:
@iced earth
Definitely think Tom c has all it takes to be a massive player, without a doubt, he looks the business, let’s not get on his case, early season he was fuckin class, I know it’s not many games but he’s definitely got it, energy, vision, attitude, he brings pace & style to our midfield, the players buzz when he’s on the park, our game flows fast.
I’ve got faith in our boys, for me this is a transit year, fukinell we’ve been blessed with trophies year after year, personally I’ll take a year of fuck all if it means we come back stronger with the united philosophy, i have no doubts we have the makings of another world class team, football taught by Matt Busby, w’ell never die
January 18, 2012 at 13:02
Balaji Sivaraman says:
Costas & Dave, Cheers guys!

Dave, Yeah, that is why we are getting a second opinion from someone we know. My mom’s a big fan of homeopathy and it has cured a lot of other illnesses in our family in the past. So, we’ll probably go that way to get over this in the long term irrespective of whether I get a surgery or not.

As for the vegetarian diet, I don’t think that’ll be an issue since I am a Vegan anyways (don’t even eat egg).
January 18, 2012 at 13:03
Dave Malaysia says:
@Costas: I feel da Boss is up to something in the transfer window. Maybe now or in the summer
he might buy someone.

But he needs to decide who to let go. If pogba/morrision sign,are they ready?

Right now its all Tom, he is the one , he steps in with Carrick/Jones.

Anderson, what do u make of him? For me this is his season ,make or break. Fergie has trustedhim with key games and in return we have got hot/cold performances. If he dosent run that midfeild by the summer, I beleive he is gone.

Danny Drinkwater,Matt James,Oliver Norwood are the remaining midfeilders of seniority right now.Outside comments from thier loan clubs suggest these guys have something about them.
But wheather they got a chance for real ,difficult to say.
All thier colleagues have been released already.

So the list actually gets smaller. Scholes extending for next season wud be a shocker.

Any stats on injuries comebacks this week?
January 18, 2012 at 13:07
Dave Malaysia says:
@Balaji: When we meet up, u gonna be sitting at the other end of the table.

All these guys, Costas,Cedars,smartalex,James and all these fellows are mean meat eaters!
January 18, 2012 at 13:11
Rai says:
Balaji – get well soon pal
January 18, 2012 at 13:19
Balaji Sivaraman says:
Dave, You left out Ryan Tunnicliffe. King Eric has been singing his praises for some time now and believes that it is Tunni and not Pogba who will become our mid-field enforcer in the future. KE thinks he is a top player in the Keano mold who can put in a great tackle and be a proper B2B MF. Even Ole has been singing Tunni’s praises for a long time and he is also set to follow Tom and Danny’s footsteps by being sent out on loan to build his first team playing time. Unlike Pogba, he is also a proper Red if you see his tweets. He does seem to wear his heart on his sleeve. We’ll have to see whether SAF is planning to bring him back in the summer or will give him another year on loan before putting him into the first team.

Rai, Thanks a lot mate!
January 18, 2012 at 13:23
Dave Malaysia says:
@Balaji: Yup missed out . Tunni is in pogba.morrison group of players. Yes, K.E is right, Tunni has a better chance at the first team then the other 2.

Fergie trusts him , sent him out on loan, Kids United Thru and thru.

But have to wait till summer , see him on tour and hopefully in the first team.
January 18, 2012 at 13:27
Pratyush says:
What people don’t realise about the most skillful Engliah player ever, Scholesy, is tht unlike Pastshit and Gotshit and others, he has fuckin experience, something that we have missed a lot of this season. We had Scholesy, Van der Sar, and Rednev retire. That’s three top footballers with tons of experience behind them gone all of a sudden. Now with Scholesy back, we not only have a MF of rare talent, but a level head on the field too. When we got thrashed by City, the player that we needed was someone like Scholesy, someone to keep the ball and who knows what to do with it. I doubt they would have scored more than three even when we were a man down if he was on the pitch. He has seen it all and done it all. There’s a reason there five Barca players, yeah those magical beings loved by pundits with backsides for brains, were clamouring for only his shirt at the end of the last CL final. All those who slate Scholesy’s retuen clearly have a low IQ.
January 18, 2012 at 13:31
gaz says:
id like to add Robbie Brady to that mix lads looks a great prospect also on loan at Hull he was doing well until he got himself sent off over the christmas period but hes on a great learning curve and the manager that was there before Barmby came in said he was top class, he has also been the outstanding player in the Irish U21 teams qualification capaign and has notched a few goals aswell!
January 18, 2012 at 13:34
Dillan says:
Tunni is good but Fergie clearly expects Pogba more to be the 1st choice.Don’t kid yourself just cause his english you seem to back him more.Tunni is a workhorse but Pogba is so much more than that.The boy is actually good on the ball and has a eye for goal.
January 18, 2012 at 13:36
Pratyush says:
@ Gaz

yeah, Brady’s nice, I watched a match of Hull’s last year ( I was getting bored, nothing on TV), and all their attacking play came from him. he also scored a wonder goal that match. I have a feeling that it’s these players, who aren’t in the spotlight, that will make it. Tunni, Brady and the like.
January 18, 2012 at 13:39
Balaji Sivaraman says:
Dillan, Nobody’s kidding ourselves. I’ve made it ample clear that when it comes to youth matters, there’s once voice I trust on ROM and that is King Eric. I am not fortunate enough to watch our youngsters in action but if King Eric gives his backing to someone, then I know he will be good. A long time ago, King Eric said that he expects Tunni to become our enforcer ahead of Pogba, and I see no reason to doubt that opinion, unless it is actually proved to be wrong.
January 18, 2012 at 13:44
gaz says:
@Pratyush

You know these kids will be patient as they will get a shot and a fair shot at that. Gibbo being the most recent example he got a go and he did score some belters but its not enough at United. I have to say Pogba looks good on the ball but seeing his very early first team appearences he has a bit to go imo but no doubt he is a talent and when he is ready SAF will know.
January 18, 2012 at 13:45
Dave Malaysia says:
@gaz: Robbie is a talent isint he? I wonder if this tenacious kid will return and make it.

@Balaji: Good answer. Nobody, at least the main people in here who follow the kids, are kidding themselves.

They have been about right with thier thots.
January 18, 2012 at 13:46
Pratyush says:
I feel that when young players get caught up in their own hype, they are the ones who usually lose out. If they can buckle down amd put in some hard work, they’ll prolly be great. Just look at TC amd Danny welbeck. They worked their arses off and are now reaping the rewards. Tunni and Brady seem to be going the same way. Hopefully for them amd United, their story is as successful as TC’s and Welbeck’s. It’s not just about talent, but also attitude.
January 18, 2012 at 13:52
Mr C says:
Whether of not Schole’s recall smacks of desperation is neither here nor there, particularly if it is the case is that the injury situation has caused us problems. If it is accepted for whatever reason that our midfield needed an urgent injection of quality, albeit in the short term, then the simple issue is who do you get in?

Do you go to the market and take a punt on some expensive ‘Carlos Kickaball’ who’ll needs time to settle, meaning that you’re no better off in this year’s title race? Or does SAF risk kids he believes for whatever reason are not ready yet? Or do you take the chance to resign a quality player like Scholes, albeit perhaps a short term fix, until our MF gets sorted out? Granted, its a long term solution but right now resigning Scholes was a no brainer…
January 18, 2012 at 13:52
Pratyush says:
I liked Gibbo and was excited when he played In the League Cup (back when we could win it =D) . I remember everyone raving on about a thunderbolt that he scored. Sadly, he couldn’t impose himself on our MF, and it was good for him to go when he clearly couldnt get a game with us. I think his best game was against Schalke last year when he got that amazing asist For Tony V and also got a goal against the keeper that everyone wanted Neuer.
January 18, 2012 at 13:52
Dave Malaysia says:
Ok guys ,time for dinner, going hunting.

Balaji ,eat yr veggies.

bye.
January 18, 2012 at 13:53
Mr C says:
typo: ‘Granted, its NOT a long term solution but right now resigning Scholes was a no brainer…’
January 18, 2012 at 13:54
Dillan says:
Well I beg to differ.Pogba is a superior player to Tunni and of course I hope both succeed for United.But clearly Fergie believes in Pogba more by keeping him and not signing a player fearing another midfielder would stunt Pogba’s growth.
January 18, 2012 at 14:00
gaz says:
@Dave Malaysia

He Certainly is i think his problem breaking into the side might be that we have a great array of wingers at the moment. He is only 19 so next season a loan out to Mid-Lower tier prem team would be the next part of his development i actually expect that this will happen for Tunni aswell next season. Its done a world of Good for Danny/Tom not to mention Sturridge at the rentboys and Mr Odd Body at the Ponces!
January 18, 2012 at 14:14
LoneStarRed says:
@ Balaji I hope all goes well with the acid reflux. I had it for a spell and it healed without surgery. It was definitely stress related. At the time I was wearing many hats and had to produce. Hope that helps.
January 18, 2012 at 14:16
parryheid says:
NotoriousRedDevil.

Leg much improved thanks.No problem with Scholes the player that was. M y problem is the player he no longer is.Not looking for superstar buys but am looking for competent midfield buys two of,we need troops now granted Jones can give us cover for Fletch and will be able to work the right side of mid with Tony V and Rafael while partnering Carrick so will settle for one incoming mid and I will take Giggs and Scholes sharing one mid position I would even take a short term loan player at the moment as I consider the right one would be cash well spent.
January 18, 2012 at 14:17
iced earth says:
no way pogba is better than tunni,if pogba stay with us,he will be sent on loan next year,tunni will be very strong player cause he is focused on his football and always try to learn,pogba is intersted in earning more money,i think he is not ready for a loan move that s why fergie refuse to loan him,c palace game tell you evrything about his level
January 18, 2012 at 14:28
gaz says:
@Dillan

Sir Alex said he didnt want to lean Pogba out as “its more difficult to loan a young boy from France out” basically meaning he is not ready yet. Tunni is further along in his development as he has been sent on loan this season. However my viewing of both Pogba and Tunni has been limited but what i have seen Tunni looks more ready then Pogba and bear in mind i am not denying the lads talent can you give reasons or examples why you think Pogba would Top Tunni? i am curious
January 18, 2012 at 14:32
parryheid says:
BalajiSivaraman.

Few years ago I was talking to somebody and my mouth started to have excess saliva and I knew I was going to vomit, did so and it was like spewing vinegar which made me shudder.Happened a few times and a Biopsy which found bug called Heliobacter Pilorus doctor prescribed ten day course of tablets called the triple and from the first day of course my problem was solved instantly. Not acid reflux but the symptoms seem very alike.
January 18, 2012 at 14:44
smartalex says:
I find my knee hurts when I change light-bulbs, any ideas?
January 18, 2012 at 14:47
LoneStarRed says:
@smartalex Take the arrow out of your knee and see if that helps.
January 18, 2012 at 14:52
smartalex says:
That’s much better LoneStarRed, thanks! Now if I can just get someone to move this steamroller, I’ll be able to cure my flatulence.
January 18, 2012 at 15:02
smartalex says:
Nothing on show, not hide nor hair will

ie Red nut cannot be seen.
January 18, 2012 at 15:07
kanchelskis says:
Look at this slapdash shite from the BBC

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16613641.stm

Claims Smalling hasn’t played since Fulham. If I’m not mistaken (and I’m not), he played against City. According to the story, he ‘sat out’ the match against City.

Slipping standards or what?
January 18, 2012 at 15:25
wayne says:
Morning Reds don’t see the relevance in the reasons Schole’s has returned,thought Sir Alex said Paul had regretted retiring,anyway it doesn’t matter,what does matter whether he can do a job and based on the first 2 games back looks ok to me.As long as he can stay injury free will only get better as he gets fitter
Seen it happen in the NHL,top player coming to the end of his career comes back for the money part of the season don’t see why it would be any different in this case.
January 18, 2012 at 15:32
J.H says:
pogba and morrison both overated!

sorry but way to bummed by people on here.
January 18, 2012 at 15:58
LoneStarRed says:
BBC …. If they actually had to compete for survival they might actually have standards but looking at the mainstream news outlets I could be wrong.
January 18, 2012 at 16:02
Sparkz says:
People are also forgetting how good we’ve looked in the handful of games Carrick & Jones played together. Like I said, its only been a few games so its difficult to judge….but that has been a very promising combination. Even better than the Cleverley & Anderson combination IMO….coz as fun as it was watching them at the start of the season, they were still leaking too many chances the other way. Carrick & Jones gives us a good balance between defence and attack, guile and energy.

With Anderson returning to fitness, and Cleverley back soon….these are all players who’ll play more regularly than Scholesy. So people worrying about our “over reliance” on Scholesy are a bit out I’d say. I don’t expect him to start every game, just do a job from the bench and come in now and then when rotating.
January 18, 2012 at 16:03
LoneStarRed says:
Wayne…this link actually does an excellent job in showing all the way Scholes’ return impacts the team present and future.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1026076-paul-scholes-10-reasons-his-comeback-means-a-20th-manchester-united-title
January 18, 2012 at 16:03
gaz says:
christ can people please lay off the “re-signing Scholsy is desperation fucking shit” Scholes is maybe not the same player he was ten years ago fair enough but he sure as hell is still better then all those fucking wannabes that are in the PL now i still rate him in the Top 3 passers in the league even now so get fucking over it and support the bosses decision its a great deal for us to have him back and remember Scholes WANTED to play the boss didnt beg him to play big fucking difference. Scholes DID NOT come back for money fuck that he came back for the love of the red jersey he eats/shits and breaths United and if he felt he couldnt contribute then he would not come back. Id much rather have Scholesy now then a fucking injured 35 mill pot head Sneijder a fucking airy fairy queen like Plastered or any other shit for brains mercenary. lets get on with number 20 shall we?
January 18, 2012 at 16:06
kanchelskis says:
@LoneStarRed

BBC’s web sports coverage varies widely. I’m a fan of their live texts, and match reports are concise and helpful. Lawro’s predictions are entertaining inasmuch as you feel he’s been instructed to cram as many cliches in there as possible.

But their ‘blogs’ (Tim Vickery’s aside) are poor, as are their rubbish guest columns from the likes of Hansen and Dixon, which are nothing more than transcripts of their witterings on MOTD.
January 18, 2012 at 16:10
ClaytonBlackmoresTan says:
smartalex, your written drops of United scented honeydew doth warm the most arctic of cockles. Keep on slaying the savage beast of mediocrity with your witterings of wonderment.

If you don’t receive payment of some form for your published linguistic gymnastics then there is something wrong in this world.
January 18, 2012 at 16:34
LoneStarRed says:
@kanchelskis Point taken. They are excellent on some things and absolute crap on others.
January 18, 2012 at 16:35
smartalex says:
ta
January 18, 2012 at 16:36
ClaytonBlackmoresTan says:
nada
January 18, 2012 at 16:38
smartalex says:
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January 18, 2012 at 16:43
ClaytonBlackmoresTan says:
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January 18, 2012 at 16:44
ClaytonBlackmoresTan says:
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January 18, 2012 at 16:44
smartalex says:
Short and sweet, or long in the truth, words work wonders.

I agree with ClaytonBlackmoresTan, it’s time to publish. Write my own ticket to Old Trafford.
Thanks for the vote of confidence!
January 18, 2012 at 16:45
Lebomanc says:
Sir Alex might sign a new 3 year deal

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2012/01/18/2852846/sir-alex-ferguson-looks-to-the-future-as-he-prepares-to-seal-his-
January 18, 2012 at 16:45
smartalex says:
I get your point!
January 18, 2012 at 16:49
Balaji Sivaraman says:
LoneStarRed, Cheers for the advice buddy. The problem with me was that the doctor told this is Grade-III which is pretty much the highest. The actual acid reflex can be fixed with tablets and lifestyle changes. However, the stomach cells already damaged due to the acids need to repaired, otherwise they might become cancerous in the future. Hence the necessity for the surgery. As I said, I am getting a second opinion on whether it is mandatory.

parryheid, My situation is not that bad but somewhat similar as you say. At times I can almost feel the acid moving inside my stomach and you do have severe heartburns from time to time also. But I just have to motor on until it gets fixed.
January 18, 2012 at 16:55
FletchTHEMAN says:
Ritchie De Laet has returned to from his loan move to Norwich. The loan was terminated after Richie developed a back injury. Hope he gets fit and can fill in from time time.

Welcome home Richie.

http://www.manutd.com/en/Fanzone/News-And-Blogs/2012/Jan/today-at-old-trafford-manchester-united-blog.aspx
January 18, 2012 at 17:02
James21 says:
gaz
@ 16:03
Here Here. I get fed up of reading about it. Its been well documented that Scholes wanted to come back and play. So how does that meke Utd desperate? Most premier league teams would have snatched his hand off including Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs. I left one small club out because they aint fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Scholes. Like I said yesterday, why do we need to sign anyone in the transfer window the team we have is fine.
January 18, 2012 at 17:14
RedManWalking says:
Interesting conversation between Rio and RedNEv

VaughanCricket: How good is Ravel Morrison @gnev2 @fizzer18 @rioferdy5. !!!

GNev2: @VaughanCricket @fizzer18 @rioferdy5

A huge talent!

rioferdy5: @GNev2 you what??

GNev2: @rioferdy5 pardon Rio? You don’t think he is?

rioferdy5: @GNev2 never saw what u were talking about,apologies! got huge potential. I’ve told him what I think of him+what he needs to do to fulfil it

GNev2: @rioferdy5 i wasnt talking about me!! yes he has got potential. Youth cup winners produce players. Hope he can do it.

rioferdy5: @GNev2 so do I,Love to see young lads come thru the youth system.Would b a big waste if it all goes tits up. Got some good 1s coming through
——————————————————————————————————————————————-

Great to see how the seniors at the club are always worried about the young players. How they look out for them. Hope Ravel gets his head straight.
January 18, 2012 at 17:28
PLT says:
Hope Ravel gets his head straight too. His careers going down the pan if he leaves us. Hopefully Scholesy and the other seniors will have a word with him and sort him out.
January 18, 2012 at 17:36
FletchTHEMAN says:
Here are some stats from the first match with George Best, Bobby Charlton and Dennis Law

Jan 18, 1964 Saturday
WestBrom 1 – United 4
The Hawthorns (25,624)
Goals: Best 1, Charlton 1, Law 2
Team: Tony Dunne, Noel Cantwell, Paddy Crerand, Bill Foulkes, Maurice Setters, David Herd, Graham Moore, Bobby Charlton, Denis Law, George Best
Coach: Sir Matt Busby
January 18, 2012 at 17:43
Sandeep1878 says:
Good evening red devils around the world,

I m worried after reading that De Laet is back to United with injury
January 18, 2012 at 17:45
parryheid says:
Balaji Sivaraman.

As it was explained to me the body defence mechanism overproduces acid in the stomach not to digest food but kill the bug.It doesn’t do it and produces more and then causes damage to the stomach lining.Like I said first days treatment problem solved bug dead no need to overproduce acid,and they can tell by a breath test now if you have that bug.good luck.
January 18, 2012 at 17:59
smartalex says:
My toe throbs when i eat gherkins, do you think I have pickled bunions?
January 18, 2012 at 18:01
parryheid says:
James21 /Gaz.

As I recall Scholes was convinced to play on after wanting to retire a couple of years ago,you think he just volunteered to come back and wasn’t asked?Maybe but that is not important you and gaz think maybe I and countless others shouldn’t query it? You think maybe it makes us lesser supporters because we do question.sorry but I don’t see it and you wont see me criticising your held views either
January 18, 2012 at 18:44
Sandeep1878 says:
LoneStarRed,

Thanks for the ink on scholesy mate, its a nice reading..

@ Balaji,

welcome back buddy..

do take care of your health..is it anything related to acidity?

Hope all is well..

@ Parryhied,

Hello mate,

One way or the other, Scholesy return has already influenced the team a lot, that is what precisely we needed when we got knocked outta Europe and cup and with so many injuries..

He is fit enough and will hit the top gear in coupla games time,

Its a win-win situation, be it him playing in midfield and influencing the players or be it schooling the youngsters around him..

I also think that it was Scholesy who volunteered to return and thats the best thing Sir Alex had wished under the circumstances..

Lets hope he gives a good year..

Cheers pal
January 18, 2012 at 19:06
James21 says:
Parry
Where in my post does it say you or anyone else is a lesser supporter? I also read through Gaz’s post and he doesn’t say it.
Fair enough but why can’t fans believe Scholes asked SAF if he could play again, I mean didn’t SAF, Giggs and Gary Neville tell him he was making a mistake to retire. I’m supprised after 25 years of SAF certain fans still don’t understand how the man does things. Its all Doom Doom Doom never bloody happy some folk.
January 18, 2012 at 19:28
slim says:
Fuck it Paul Scholes is class player, a Manchester United player. I’ll have him irrespective even of bodies dropping like flies . I mean what the fuck, no one moaned about Henrik Larsson in 2007.

with some of the players and i fucking can’t believe i’m saying it, the form of Carrick. I see Good times ahead. i think i’ll particularly enjoy watching the abu brigade squirm when we retain the title
January 18, 2012 at 20:16
parryheid says:
James21.

Doesn’t say it anywhere mate,your reading my thoughts re I query something others comment as if I and my like are somehow being disloyal by not accepting things at face value.I also state whether he did or did not get asked is of no importance.As for doom doom doom and some never happy,got nowt to do with it I happen to think we need players in and that means buying or loan.What Gary and Giggs say means nothing Scholes knew some time ago he was overdue for retirement as did the supporters.question you should be asking is why wasn’t his replacement bought in 2 years ago what’s the explanation?I haven’t seen one yet but this is a pointless debate as I am looking at the likely cost of not others are happy to mark time hope in a month or so you are not going to start complaining if things go tits up because we would not buy in cover this month because I will.
January 18, 2012 at 20:21
parryheid says:
While I am at it we are currently in a position of strength with players coming back hopefully,wouldn’t want to ruin it because we don’t strengthen our midfield and the steamrollering starts again.
January 19, 2012 at 11:51
james21 says:
Parry. I’ll not be complaining weather we win or not. I just can’t see why fans can’t accept that SAF has faith in Cleverly. We have to give him time like we did Ronaldo. Injuries and illneses are unfortunate and have been a problem of late but we’re up there still where other teams would have fallen away. The doom comment was aimed at those who moan even when the team is 3 up or have won also those who keep banging on about Sniejder yet have never seen him play or any other player for that matter, just because the papers say we’re interested doesn’t mean to say we are. I trust in a man that has delivered so much glory and has been written off so many times. He always proves them wrong.
January 19, 2012 at 12:29
parryheid says:
James21.

SAF has faith in Cleverly,I also have faith in cleverly along with the whole of our back line and front line + most of our mid field especially if Jones is alongside Carrick but that is not my point we have a lot of injuries and our midfield is poor and needs strengthening.You may disagree and that’s the way it goes.
January 19, 2012 at 19:40
James21 says:
Parry
The Midfield doesn’t need strengthening the midfield is well covered with capable players. Scholes wanted and has come back so he is our signing or Loan player that fans keep banging on about and he’s the cover for the players who are injured. If not Scholes then who? I can’t think of any situations where SAF has taken a player on loan except for Larsson and at the time I didn’t really think we needed him. Fans who have been moaning on here keep bleating on about Pogba then in the next breath say we need to sign players, hang on ,they say give Pogba a chance then we need to sign someone? Doesn’t make sense to me. Give Pogba a chance by all means but if we sign some top player how will he fit in? Will this top player want to sit on the bench while we develop Pogba or enjoy getting substituted halfway through a game so Pogba can get a run out. Personally I havn’t seen anything that tells me he’s worth a place but time and further development might. If SAF puts Pogba in the team for a few games and has a torrid time these same fans will come on here and destroy him. Some fans have no patience and reqire a signing now when I think we can wait till the summer. No Utd team has ever been built in a day and only shitty can afford to build a team in a day and that has nothing to do with the Glazers or our finances its to do with Monsour and Monsour alone. I remember the 70′s and 80′s when Utd teams offered but never delivered some fans have been lucky to only know success and I find some of these fans to be very impatient when SAF tries to build new teams, even going as far as calling for his head. We’ll obviously not see eye to eye on this matter but a decent debate none the less.

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