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Class pure class, the first forward pass of the whole game from Carrick, swept away magnificently bye one of my Scottish hero’s.
Get in the there Big man Darren****
Brilliantly set up by Carrick. Hope it’s a sign of things to come.
Nice to see our midfielders offering offensive solutions like this! We’re still losing possession at dumb moments though… And Obertan and Bébé, how awesome is that!!
class finish for all three goals …
Match Report ….
http://www.theunitedreligion.com/2010/11/bursaspor-0-united-3-on-verge.html
What an assist.
what a run by obertan seriously he has the skills a bit like ronaldo and carrick is definately back
clean sheet is just nice i just hope nani is ok.
come on you mighty reds
3 classy goals from Fletch, Obertan and Bebe plus a clean sheet away.
Great result, great to give some minutes to Obertan especially. Really thought Scholes could
have gotten sent off, but it all worked out perfectly.
Anyone have information on Fletch and Nani?
Good result but these group matches just aren’t bringing out the passion in our players.
@FletchTHEMAN
Not a lot. Nani is believed to have a groin problem, but could be fit for Wolves. Fletcher’s was weird. I say rest them both against Wolves and have them ready for Shity.
Great result. Great to see youngsters score.
Felt sorry for Berba. It was one of those nights for him.
How many reds were down there?
What a ball by Carrick. Superb goal from Obertan, glad he and Bebe got on the scoresheet.
Costas, Thanks for that. Agree about the wolves encounter. I would like to win both games. But the derby is definitely the preferred of the two and has to be the focus. I am sure that it is properly on the mind of our manager, and rightly so!
bebe and obertan…. watch out for them both! big things to come!
So now that’s 38 goals in 17 games this season with Rooney scoring just once. 15 different goalscorers. Great stuff up front. Plus, this is the longest we’ve gone unbeaten at the start of the season since Fergie took over.
@FletchTHEMAN
No problem. Fergie didn’t know a lot about the injuries in his interview. Just that Nani has a groin problem and Fletch has an ankle problem. I am more concerned about the latter to be honest. Hopefully they will be ok for City. It would be fantastic if we won the next 3.
Great performance from the lads and another majestic performance from Scholesy. Obertan’s starting to look comfortable and offers great pace going forward. Bebe’s lightening quick, took his goal very well. Looks like we are starting to click into gear. Here’s hoping for 3 points against Wolves at home on Saturday.
I think one should rightly praise all three goals for their superb build up play. A feast of football. Carrick to Fletch was just the appetizer, but still the end of some really nice attacking play. Park to Obertan was a delicious entre. Scholes to Bebe was the desert with chocolate sauce!
Questions: Did anyone get a good enough look at Bebes goal, one of the announcers was claiming it was off the defender. Hard to believe that it wasn’t Bebes given the trajectory, but my feet was poor.
**feed** was poor (Ha ha)
Best thing about today`s game was Carrick`s performance. MOTM. He’s slowly finding his feet again. Hiis poor form at the beginning of the season was a real worry, I am chuffed he is now performing on a much improved level. Lets hope he keeps this up.
Hard to judge that performance, Bursaspor were awful, but you can only beat whats in front of you. Pluses, were Carrick, Obertan and Bebe, the negative was Berba. He needs to step it up again, because his early season form was his best since he joined.
And funnily enough, 4 clean sheets in Europe this season. Our defence only goes to sleep on English soil, lol.
OBERTAN-KENOBI – let the force flow within you (all season, please)
Did anyone see Valdez’s kick on the Copenhagen striker? Ouch!
@ Fze123
MOTM had to be Paul Scholes. Every play we had went through him. Unreal to watch.
Haven’t seen the game, but it’s a great result. Too bad about the injuries. I hope both Fletch and Nani are fine and it was just precotion. Can’t believe that we are still not through. We need at least a point either from Rangers or Valencia. Hopefully we will crash Rangers and get over with it.
Can`t believe Inter’s defence – which arguably won them the CL last season, has now conceded 6 goals against Spurs.. credit to Rafa for this, of course.
@themufc1999, Scholes was Scholes, but for me, it was Carrick. Just because it’s been a while since he played so well.
Berba was off tonight. He was out of touches couples of occasions and was offside for at least 4 times. He was awful, and never seems a threat. However I would give him the benefit of the doubt saying that because he was a lone striker tonight. I think he is most effective as a support striker and will never be a front man who leads the line.
For Obertan, he was completely out of touches in first half, but it’s understandable because he has not been playing regularly. Completely transform in the second half and deserved the goal, though. I’m happy for him because it was important for his confidence in coming games as we need him as his best while Valencia recovering.
Bebe showed again he is still a raw talent and very inexperienced. Made some wrong decisions prior his goal. However, it was expected what he did. I think next season is the target for us to see the how good he can be. Of course, im happy for his goal as it will do nothing bad for his confidence.
Carrick had good game, but made couple of casual pass back to defense which lost to opposition. He needs to cut it off.
Smalling was immerse along side Vidic tonight
Park also came on and did real well for us too. No doubt he is as his best at the moment. A very different type of midfielder compare to Nani. He stretched out pretty well opposition’s defense by his movement.
Anyone know whats wrong with Fletch? It seems like he twisted his ankle just a little bit there. Hopefully he’ll be ok.
@Fze123 – FSW engineered this perfectly, you just can’t see it. He let the team that were set up by Maureen last season do what they did last time against a slightly better average Spurs side for half of the first Inter v Spurs match, then let Spurs take the ball into their net for the last twenty minutes to give them hope. This was perfect because of what he needed to do – he realised United would win their group and Inter second if Spurs beat them in the second game with more goals against them on aggregate (5 for Inter, 6 for Spurs), giving Inter more of a chance to meet us and capitulate completely.
Return to base, FSW, you’ve done well, my son.
@Fze
KRAP. He never disappoints.
obertan has really buffed up. and what about the strike..
Thanks Scot for making my day… your live blog kept me going…
For me Rafael was MOTM. No one got past him! I hope he will get more regular first-team football because he definitely deserves it.
Really sound team display and great to see peripheral players stepping up. I know Turkish teams aren’t the best, but it’s a damn hard place to go and get a result.
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6483528,00.html
Fletch and Nani out of Wolves games.
Park was excellent when he came on.
And as Fre said, its great to see Carrick of old out there today.
And words can’t describe Scholes. He is sadly irreplaceable. Keep him out there until he’s 40
So UEFA took away BEBE’s goal >:(
It has now been ruled an Own Goal by Ali Tandoğan….That blows!
Well placed strike by Scholes!
Absolutely cracking goal by Obertan!
Bebe’s goal, hmmm…… not convinced it wasn’t an own goal by the defender. If you look at the goal camera angle, the defender;s foot appears to get to the ball prior to Bebe’s foot. I’ve watched it at least 30 times and cannot convince myself that Bebe actually made contact with the ball. Regardless, he was in the right spot at the right time and did what he was supposed to do with the ball. No real complaints here.
Worried about Wolves now with Fletch and Nani out…Fletch injury is the biggest fear I’ve had since last year…no true cover for his role…maybe play JOS in DMF???
WB-Rio-Smalling-Fabio
Obby-Carrick-Gibson-Park
Berbs-Chichi
Carrick is crap shit, 1 good forward pass resulting in a goal doesn’t mean jackshit against such lousy team. It was Obertan and Berbatov who pulled the defenders creating space for Fletcher’s timely run. Even my nephew can do such a simple pass under that circumstance. Carrick was as usual making those same mistakes losing the ball while passing to defense. Sell him ffs!
@Costas
Yeah mate , that was one nasty kick from valdez .. and no card !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4BEqiaYvC8
@Koolburn
That’s some good stuff you’re smoking there. Almost everyone said he was one of our best performer last night. Him and Scholesy. You either just watch highlights or you’re just a hater.
Yeah Carrick was crap again. Oh Lord…
@Jeet
I am hopeful that Ando will be back in time for Wolves. Fergie said that he has a virus, but he’s been missing since the last Bursaspor game..
@at hurs. He is really smoking. Carrick is returning to his best. The MOTM for me is schools, he made a totall number of 107 passes and only 7 goes astray. But i can’t forget rafeal he did a very decent’t job. Smalling was solid thanks to fergie for getting rio replacement. Obertan and bebe have a good game. Park did a good job. We all know that berba cannot play as a lone striker. I never doubted his ability as a striker and i will never be. VOTD FOR CHICHARITO AS PFA player of the month http:// http://www.premierleague.com/page/ Home/
Nani’s injury has been a nightmare of mine since Valencia got injured. And against Wolves, we will need someone with something special to open them up. Hopefully Park, Obertan and Berba will provide that.
And the other worry is to make sure not to rush Nani back because his groin injury could get aggravated.
Costas
Fergie mentioned that Gibson might be back, but he doubts Anderson will be ready for the weekend.
@ Devil310
Uefa have not listed Bébé as a goal scorer on this years list, so you must be right. I can’t find Uefa Dubious Goals Committee, or any other info. Can you link me to your source? Thanks.
Watched our competion Valencia play Rangers – well impressed with Ever Banega the Argie centre midfield – only 22 and reads the game like a 27 year old.
Watched him as a 18 year old here in Canada in 2007 during the under 20 WC and he impressed me then even though Aguerro got the plaudits.
Would hope he is on our radar screen.
VIDEO 3 – BEBE GOAL…. Watch it and look at 16seconds, Fletcher is doing the “Proud Mother” pose!!!! Its too funny!!!!
@arijc
He did? Oh, no Ando then. So it’s either Carrick-Gibson on Saturday or if there’s no other choice, Carrick-Scholes. Which would probably mean that he would miss the City game.
Why was it given as an own goal? Doesn’t make sense.
The replays weren’t conclusive, unless UEFA had replays from other views to refer to.
http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/matches/season=2011/round=2000118/match=2002878/index.html
I thought the rules state that if you have an attempt on goal, you get awarded the goal even if it’s deflected. Look at the goal they awarded Antonio against CSKA last year!
They are doing cartwheels at the Daily Fail right now.
How on earth is that an own goal, it was on target ffs. Every single deflected goal United score always seem to get changed to an own goal, its nonsense.
@manc_sam – Thanks for pointing that out – brilliant!
Koolburn – You are talking shite pal, Carrick was superb last night and played well at the weekend as well.
Do you know I get fucking sick of people ALWAYS looking for negatives every bastard time. If you thought Carrick was shite you know fuck all pal. Just enjoy the fucking result for fuck sake which consisted of periphrel players all over the park.
King Eric
Let’s not go nuts here: Carrick played OK last night against the worst opposition I have seen in living memory; nothing to get too excited about to be honest. I’m not sure what game people were watching but he certainly wasn’t MoM, which has been mentioned.
It was a great result away from home against an awful team; the young players put in decent performances and gained some needed confidence. Nothing incredible, nothing abysmal, just a solid night – lets keep the heads level folks!
@hurr & Joseph & King Eric
Mediocre performance against a lousy team and u guys go mental about how well he did, nice stuff
u smoking too.
Obertan and Berbatov each draw two defenders to the left, while Park crosses the pitch, looking for a pass. Effectively 3 vs 5, Michael Carrick THEN enters the final third with a simple cushioned pass to Fletcher who had acres of space to finish it off. Any fcuking body in his position would have made that pass he did. He was just in the right place at the right time to flick it to Fletcher who had a perfect first touch and score.
Some say he’s calm and passing sets him apart but he often delay his pass taking the sting out of every attack he becomes involved in. He frequently strolls around as if he has acres of space before getting dispossessed or passing the ball back to other team. He always spray the ball back to Edwin Van Der Sar so the keeper can smash it straight back where it came from. Composure is a word used to describe good players who create their own space – Paul Scholes a prime example – and for bad players who are too slow. Michael Carrick is the latter. His ineptitude in last season as well as this season shows he just cant cut it at the highest level.
To quote Football365.com, “we watched Michael Carrick do his best ‘if I do absolutely nothing ambitious then nobody will think I’m rubbish’ schtick.”
I really do think some people just don’t get what Crarick brings to the team (on form) . His positional sense is excellent, his one touch passing is, he makes vital interceptions, keeps the ball moving and sweeps up time and again. He will not grab a game by the scruff and win us games outright but he is a vital cog. When he plays well United tend to. He also played well at Wembley.
Jig3000 – Who is getting carried away mate? I aint. simply saying Carrick played well and so did the lads. Why people ALWAYS have to find negatives baffles me. Just negative in general i dare say. Believe me mate I have seen FAR worse opposition than last nights. They were poor but ya can only beat whats in front of ya as the cliche goes.
Koolburn – “Cannot cut it at the highest level” Well that there alone pal says it all. What the fuck do you think he did from 2006 to present? Last season excluded? Oh bet you say the team carried him. No he has been a VITAL central midfielder to United. As I say over and over you cannot play in the engine room at United if ya shite, you will soon get found out.
CORRECTION…
Apparently UEFA did give the goal to BEBE after all:
http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/matches/season=2011/round=2000118/match=2002878/index.html
Yesterday it was listed as an OG by Ali Tandoğan
@Koolburn
You keep mentioning the pass and nothing else so I’m gonna say it again. You obviously did not watch the match and only look at highlights. Almost everyone said he was one of our best performer last night and it wasn’t based solely on his assist. And yeah you knew better about him than our gaffer and the coaches who watch him play everyday but then you formed your opinion from the nobheads on Football365. I wouldn’t even bother if I had known earlier.
He is overrated simply because of guys like you. Yes he has positional sense but his so called 1 touch passing are just simply short back or square passes. He always delay or take one two many touches when going forward. Tell me someone who doesn’t keep the ball moving in the team esp when he’s playing in midfield. If you mean he’s a clog, yes i agree. He doesnt make his presence felt esp. when the team is losing. Always seems to need more time on the ball but gets put under pressure too easily. The reverse is true, he plays well only when United is winning. He lacks the speed and skill to take the ball past opponents, and ninety over percent of his distribution either goes backwards or sideways. Does not command the center nor does he hustle like Fletcher. Always look lacklustre, rarely plays with any intensity or energy. Trundles around the middle of the pitch looking totally at sea at times, and for a guy known for his accurate passing his shots on goal are often woefully inaccurate. I could keep going on.
It’s people like Carrick, and the overall lack of quality in midfield over the last few years, that have made United suffer against the big boys.It’s the lack of real creativity or scoring from the engine room that has made United one dimensional and predictable – virtually all the scoring opportunities are provided from the wings. Teams like Barca, with their superlative midfields, simply eat that up, completely dominating play and possession from the center of the pitch. He was bamboozled by Xavi and Iniesta during that Barca CL final and woeful again against Bayern Munich last time round.
Prior to that, having someone like Ronaldo actually made Carrick look better than he is, as all he really needed to do was knock to him and the rest was done.
Finally i honestly dont know him betta that the SAF or the coaches but the fact is he’s no longer the automatic first choice for both England and United aint it?
Koolburn – Carrick was playing with a broken toe in Rome mate. “one dimensional and predicatable” the last few seasons? Yeah aint won much have we? As for Barca don’t see them getting to two Champions League finals on the trot.
A broken toe that never healed huh? Carried by Ronaldo and then Rooney stepped up after he left only to lose by 1 point. Did we get to finals after Ronaldo left? ROFL @ 2 CL finals, it doesnt equal 2 CL title dude. Your point is moot so stop trying so hard to justify shyt.
“Patrice originally wanted to leave in January but now he is happy to sign a new contract and leave at the end of the season,” a United source told Goal.com. “He is concerned about where the club are heading and is attracted by the possibility of playing for Real, a club he really admires.”
If Carrick is top class along the rest of midfield why does such stuff keep surfacing? Surely the team wouldnt need any quality addition to show our ambition. No wait, u know the team better than the likes of Patrice Evra.