Sir Alex Ferguson described the FA’s decision to ban Patrice Evra as the worst thing the FA had ever done to us. Of course, United fans are well aware of the one rule for United, another rule for everyone else, where the FA are concerned. That is why our players who miss drugs tests and are sent off in pre-season friendlies are treated much more harshly than the players of other Premiership teams.
Since their decision to ban Evra we have of course been a tad bit more sensitive to the behaviour of the FA. They raised the bar with Evra. Despite there not being any CCTV footage which proves Evra punched a member of Chelsea’s groundstaff (whilst there is CCTV footage of every other reported incident, including the member of Chelsea’s groundstaff swinging for Evra), the FA made the decision to trust the member of Chelsea’s groundstaff’s word, and ban Evra for 4 matches and then release their biased report on the website.
Now, last time I checked, throttling the opposition was something else the FA should frown upon, but I’ve yet to hear if the FA are planning to review the footage and hand out the appropriate 3 match ban that should follow. Watch this space, I guess.
Check out James Ryydel at A Kick In The Grass‘s opinion on all of this.
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I wanna strangle the bloke myself!! Grrr!
When i saw the whole thing on tv one of the commentators said “i wouldnt mess with him if i was ronaldo” talking about pogatwat but people seem to forget Ronaldo is actually quite a big lad he’s bigger than that shitouse, ronaldo might dive about but i reckon he could of taken him.
wonder if the FA will even look at this incident, i also wonder if it will be headline news like when ever Wayne ‘the mad man’ Rooney does anything, nope doubt any of that will happen.
Pogatetz does this and it’s just a line or two in the match report and still, Southgate comes out with his “referees in OT” bullshit. Meanwhile, the media is still hyped up about Ronaldo and Rooney. It seems like the FA cares more about their reputation with the media than justice
Spot on. The FA double standard policy is stuff of legend now.Always,Always against us. Same with the referees.They never book players who foul Ronaldo because of his apparent ‘diving habits’. In that case Pogatetz is probably one of the rowdiest players ever.He is plain violent and tackles like a mad man. But im guessing the FA are goint to coolly look over this.Not surprising.
pogatetz has always been a dirty bastard! what else do you expect from him when he’s marking ronaldo? will he be banned? no. end of. terrible performance again, but another 3 points. move on to chelsea in jan.
Unbelievable quote from The Independent:
“The latest outpouring of indignation from Cristiano Ronaldo was as fabricated as many of his others – an apparent arm around his neck from Emmanuel Pogatetz in the Middlesbrough box as the first half wound to a close. There was little in it, no elbows certainly, but after seeking out referee Martin Atkinson and waving an arm in his face, Ronaldo found the Middlesbrough skipper – remembered here for the ugly challenge on Rodrigo Possebon which saw the Austrian sent off in September’s Carling Cup clash – and their head-to-head argument continued down the tunnel.”
Could they get any more biased against this man?
Oh, n where in hell is Nani??? Park offers very very little creativity, cant cut across people.Giggsy has been coming on for the past few games and the only time ive seen Nani play was in Japan.Where’s the lad??
Ronaldo’s a big lad? He’s an half-wit more like, another sub-standard performance only highlighted by his ability to look like he’d been shot when Pogatetz put his hands on his neck, it’s so pathetic it’s hardly funny. Should have subbed him on 60 minutes. Although the Independent have probably gone a bit far in their judgement, I wouldn’t say they’re too wrong, why couldn’t he just be a man, have a word with the ref, tell Pogatetz to fuck off and get on with it instead of trying to win a penalty he was never going to get.
Jake the only half wit I can see is you
I wander if so many people would be so quick to defend Pogatitz the thug had he actually broken Rodrigo’s legs
‘a bit far in their judgement’
Jake, it was a stupid analysis. My brother was at his house watching it, I was at the game but he said the Setanta lot were saying Pogatitz had no intentions of getting the ball and aim was to bring down Ronaldo in the area. PENALTY. And bearing in mind Pogatitz already tried to break one of Ronaldo’s team mates and (allegedly good friend) legs and got banned for 6 months in Russia, its about time something was done
The sad thing is, that despite Ronaldo being grabbed around the throat, in the penalty area… most headlines were along the lines of “Ronaldo in bust-up…” which to the blind and easily mislead, obviously makes Ronny out to be the bad one.
Anyway, 3 points and the march continues!
Fight, Fight, Fight >>>
RedMojo… people who write match reports for tomorrow’s shite paper, don’t even watch the games. It’s all rushed out to meet the editors deadline.
If that was a United player, doing what he did, the back pages would be swamped. Though, what use is the name of a player who’s playing for ‘Boro?
Haven’t you heard the news?It is ok to shoot someone in cold blood as long as you don’t play for United.You know what really bothers me?Ronaldo and/or Rooney will probably get punished by the FA for the Stoke game and Moron-Tetz will walk away innocent.Oh and the FA who were so quick to feed Rio and Cantona to the wolves have said that Gerrard will keep getting selected.Call me biased,but didn’t Gerrard do something far worse than Rio and Cantona?I am not even going to talk about Evra.They apologised themselves about that one!
It will indeed be interesting to see how the FA “disciplinary process” deal with the Pogatetz choke-hold. It has been highlighted a number of times on the game broadcast and then later on Setanta but, I have to assume, that the referee somehow missed this blatant bit of GBH so, one would assume, that they won’t do anything about it although there are precedents – the referee who awarded the penalty in the Scouse/RentBoyz game last year was “rusticated”. They have often use video evidence to assess the performance of other referees BUT they will not open the door to the use of video evidence when it counteracts the referee’s on-field decisions. So we, the fans, get the short, shitty end of the stick.
This is not ABU bias – it’s just plain stupidity because it maintains the Victorian fiction that this is a “game” played by gentlemen amateurs. Even in the 19th century Preston North End put paid to that non-sense yet it still persists among the bureaucratic, administrative ostriches – who are always ready to dine at the trough – SAF had a lovely jibe on that score last week – and continually show us that their heads are still buried deep in the sand.
If any action is taken who wouldn’t be surprised to learn that Cristiano Ronaldo will be disciplined for putting his head in a dangerous position ?
spencer, how in god’s name did you expect the ref or linesman to see an incident off the ball clearly enough to give a penalty? more to the point why did Ronaldo dive around like a muppet trying to win the impossible penalty? he’s have been better off laughing, telling the ref and taking the mick out of pogatetz. Pogatetz didn’t try to bring him down, he was trying to stop from getting to a possible header, it was a penalty, but things like that never get given, act like a man, don’t embarass yourself like Pogatetz and get on with it. One of the
Re Jake: But it should have been a penalty. And a red card for Pogatetz too. Can you imagine Independent’s, Setanta’s, Alan Green’s, Southgate’s, ref’s, FA’s etc. reactions if it was the other way round – Ron putting his hands around someone’s neck? Btw, he did exactly what you say he should have done: had a word with the ref, told Pogatetz to fuck off and got on with it. He’s a professional footballer, and there’s nothing unsporting in falling down after being blatantly fouled – nobody would have noticed it if he did not go to the ground. In a way, it’s similar to what happened at Villareal, after Capdevila’s brutal tackle on Ronaldo – when media (and even some of our supporters) were vilifying the victim. I find it disgusting.
Jake—He was trying to stop him from getting a header by grabbing him with both hands around the throat?? Get a grip man, thats not how professional footballers should stop one another, and I think its safe to say that almost never happens. But, unfortunately, I do agree with you that Ronaldo did himself no favors by throwing himself to the ground and screaming and rolling around and shit. But that doesn’t take away from the fact that Pogts is a dirty cunt and he committed a blatant foul in the box which should have been a dead cert pen, not an “impossible” pen as you described it.
RedMojo: Saw that report in Independent as well mate. What a fuckin joke, but what do we really expect now from media. There is another one in Independent today about Gerrard and what a “model pro” he is and how he “doesn’t often drink” and “rarely stays out late”. Furthermore was listening to Talk Sport and apparantly they can’t discuss it at all as currently ongoing case etc etc etc. Bollocks. Cunts.
heard there was some fisticuffs in the tunnel at halftime can any one shed light on this rumour?
oh and by the way, if it was Vidic that had grabbed hold of some fuckers throat he would have been castrated by them fuckers at the FA
RE:Jake
He should have seen it, it was right in front of him but he didn’t because he is an idiot. As for stopping him getting a header. yes thats what he did. but his job is to prevent the attacking players from getting a goalscoring chance by FAIR METHODS. Pogatetz is paid thousands a week to do so. He didn’t. He used an unfair method which should have been a penalty and maybe even a red. I mean, Vidic was sent of for less last week
Hey Scot. where did you get that Free Gerrard Now shirt on the end of the video …it,s fucking hilarious….. jeesssuss …hahahah…funnnneeee as fuck ….top quality piss taking….lol
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Yeah the Evening Herald here in Ireland has the same match report and I actually came here to complain about it. I honestly couldn’t believe the part about ‘no elbows involved’. The Gerrard crap as well is just BS
Mr. Jake….it seems like you’re either an idiot or you did not watch the incident properly. How often do you see a player launchin themselfves with BOTH HANDS to grab a player’s neck???? Mate, you are more biased than the independent and are clearly talking out of your arrrse. Pogatetz had no other intention than to mess/hurt ronaldo, and he did it inside the area…and it should have been a PENALTY…end of discussion. And just so you know, Ronaldo did go an complain to the refery and he also went and faced that excuse of a player and got right on his face.
I don’t want to defend the FA but if they start banning players on video reports regularly, Ronaldo’s actions in the last couple of games would’ve been punished too.
So, what would be the matter with that ? IF the referee misses a blatant, red-card offence – and there is an official complaint – then there should be some sort of “commission” with the power to effect a retroactive red card and a one- or three-game ban. This is done all the time in ice hockey, which is a much faster game but much, much, much better officiated.
IF the FA began to employ video evidence for retroactive red cards then why shouldn’t they use video evidece for other crucial elements in the game-action ? Oh, I forgot, that would bring the game out of the 19th century.
Where would it end ??? Would incorrect offsides decisions be reversed ? would penalties be subject to review ? what about balls across the goal line that are not considered to be goals ? All of us have seen far too many of these howlers – sometimes they change a game, sometimes they don’t BUT in all cases there is no excuse to not make a 30-second video replay available to the officials. And if the original decision can’t be reversed in 30 seconds then play should go on. Would that be so difficult ? would that change the flow of the game any more than a goal celebration or any number of other currently-allowed time-wasting tactics ?
In last night’s game – and tonight’s game with Hull/Villa – there were events that called out for video replay. As it happens, an obvious straight red-card offence was missed last night while tonight Steve Bennet was able to sort matters out with his linesman, which added more than a minute to the “time added on” but was the correct decision. Bennet’s correct decision could have been resolved in about ten seconds with video replay.
The Pogatetz choke-hold was, in fact, a double whammy since not only did the ‘boro defender push down on the back of Ronaldo’s neck but he also pushed upwards on his Adam’s apple/throat. This is perfectly clear from the video evidence – and only the wilfully blind can suggest otherwise.
Maybe Jake’s a rugby player???
Denton: Good argument, incidentally another decision could have been made concerning the disallowed goal from Barmby which on evidence was not a foul on Friedal. Just another example where video evidence could change a game.
OTRed
I’m a Rugby player and even we’d probably get a red, if not at least a yellow, for putting our hands around a players throat during a tackle.
Sooner or later Ronaldo will just not get any fouls given against him until he is actually injured during each tackle.
I used to be against the idea of breaking off into a super club league when it was suggested a couple of years back, but if it means we get away from those clueless twats at the FA then I’m all fucking for it! Heck, I’d even take switching to Ligue 1 or Serie A or something and travel the extra miles for away games in Italy or France than take the FA and English press. We’re fucking better than the lot of ‘em anyway – we’ve proven time and time again that no matter how many times they try to knock us down we come out on fucking top!
(Perhaps bring Citeh with us just too so we can continue to laugh at them.)
Jake, you ask how the linesman and/or the ref could’ve seen the incident, but isn’t it one of their jobs to actually watch the crowd of players as the ball’s being delivered?
Come on the Ref was Martin Atkinson. The same ref that has given us all the legal DISTIN tackle in the box. If that wasn’t a foul then Podathug is hardly going to get a penalty given for what he did.
As for the FA doing anything about it, remember it was a coke hold on a UNited player = no action. over way round possible life ban
I think real madrid payed those cunts to hurt ronaldo and the referees to not protect ronaldo so that he’ll join madrid =)
I think Pogatetz expected Ronaldo to back off when he leaned into him good to see Ronny has some cajones at least. It was a penalty and who the fuck was not expecting Ronaldo to make a big deal out of it? He’s just been strangled in the clear view of everyone even LEEDS fans in other forums were saying action should be taken against Pogatetz.
If given the chance, I would strangle both Pogatetz and that curly haired manwoman McManaman. If the FA dont react on this, its further proof of their hatred against our beloved Manchester United.
Pogatetz = DICKHEAD
going back to the possebon challenge, that was just as bad as martin taylors on eduardo of arsenal, but recieves hardly any critisism from the press, and now putting both hands around the neck of a player? its a joke.
The rules state if you raise ur hands to a player below the neck it is a yellow card (i.e. push in the chest). Raise ur hands on to the neck or above it is a red card offence. simple.
But will the FA do anything?? Will they try to make sure that THEIR RULES are being followed? no chance.
Its like when RVN’s penalty hit the bar and he was then assaulted by half the arsenal team, and virtually nothing happened about that!
I remember a picture of Lauren with his hand round phil neviles neck and you could see his fingers digging in where he was squeezing….and he never got a ban either.
Nothing will happen to Pogatetz, the Myth that United get all the favorable decisions will go on amongst the media, and therefore the fans of every other team.
The FA are a joke.
And as for Steve Gerrard, im sure the FA will support him too – anything to help the dippers try to win the league!
Lads go easy on jakey boy..this guy or kid has a regularity for slagging ronaldo at every given opportunity. Infact im sick and tired of responding to his ronadlo drivel…and im not going to get worked up, or else scott will have to moderate.
Spencer – to jake – eaststandmanc – otred – ot070506 – Drew me auld mucker ALL SPOT ON.
Yes Ronaldo is theatrics at times. BUT Mr Maddog who nearly decaptited a player in russia and ended his career…the same mad dog who nearly ended our rodrigo’s career…NOT brushes or pushes or barges our ron. He grabs him two hands by the throat ready to break his neck. ISNT A PENALTY and he wasnt gonna get one.
Blimey thats the funniest thing ive heard in years..ha ha ha ha ha ha. thats common assault in my book…..ask stevie wonder gerrard
Ref martin fuckin atkinson is the same prick who didnt see the 100 crude challenges made by pompey players on our ron and others in the fa cup last season. Over which SAF and CARLOS were charged. And surprise surprise..he missed it again.
Anyway Mohammed matadar..was the linesman on monday. Mo matadar lives in the same street as from me…a full time teacher at the local comp…i saw him yesterday and asked him about the incident..ive known the lad for 20 + years. I asked him what the fuck was all that about….he apologised..he missed it and he stated ” both me and martin missed it, if we had it seen it, it would have been a pen and a straight red”. sorry.
hope that clarifies things.
By way Spencer……these ronaldo slaggers wont be happy until he’s found dead. Any comments on my idea of a ronaldo slag forum for these whingers to go to each week and have a girlie night in and slag away all they like???
“United fans are well aware of the one rule for United, another rule for everyone else, where the FA are concerned”
Correct. Probably why nothing happened when Rooney tried to elbow Faye in the Stoke match and why it now appears that Ronaldo is allowed to stamp and kick out at defenders as he pleases.
Hey Suhayl, that’s Breaking News on your conversation with the linesman (sorry assistant referee) admitting he and the ref got it wrong on Pogo-titz’s strangulation of Ronaldo! Ping off an email to one of the papers pronto or somehow get it on the public radar. It’s rare to get officialdom admitting errors like that when it comes to United, so let’s make sure the story spreads. I’m so sick of the slagging off of Ronaldo from all and sundry plus the lack of protection he gets from refs. He’s going through a lean period but he’ll come back eventually, sooner with support from United fans, later with Real without. As for Jake, I’m assuming from the silly comments that it’s a typo for Joke.
Giles mate..true true true….the amount of words comments, essays ive written on republik detailing explain everything on ron, on how yes we do understand what he did…but we should get behind a player who wears our shirt and our badge. Well lets just say im blue in the face and ive spent countless days debating why we should get off his back..yes dont sing for him anymore etc etc..but dont come on here and vilify and crucify the lad at every given opportunity. If it isnt his football its his hair, his legs, his car..etc etc…some ‘ jakers” lol…wont leave the guy alone.
You’re spot on mate….some fans do talk sense…and you always know your stuff, your history and knowledge is 2nd to none. the more comments from you, drew vader, denton davey, failsworth, spencer, north stand, anant, stephen etc the better.
I so agree with what you say. And im sick to the teeth saying it.
As for mo matadar…a teacher at beardwood high school. PE teacher who is now getting more bigger prem games. Some of our lads really had a go at him and i did give him a piece of my mind…hence he admitted he was wrong and shouldnt have missed it. Bump into him all the time…as he lives 5 seconds away. I may tape the nest convo i have with him
Take it easy mate
nice to know I’ve sparked such intelligent debate on an ROM forum, job done then. I’ve said it was a penalty but you can’t do what Ronaldo does and expect refs or linesman to care, it’s counter-productive. Suhayl’s mission to try and label me a Ronaldo-obsessed Ronaldo FC fan is a little bit silly as the blog is about another Ronaldo incident and once again the streams of vitreole seem to point that you, in fact could be the Ronaldio-obsessed one so desperate to not see him leave we should forget all his antics and new-found ability to look so disinterested in games. The idea that you can tell me you know the linesman, claim the rights to United supporters intellectual property and make it so seems a little silly when you’ll find that there are a significant number of match-day fans (as you are no doubt one too) who wouldn’t mind seeing the back of Ronaldo, never has a player done so much to drag United into his little petulant gutter ever since about a week before the final in Moscow. As United fans we are supposed to pride ourselves on rewarding loyalty and never forgetting slights until they’ve been dutifully made up for (i.e. Rio), Ronaldo hasn’t got anywhere making up for what he did and he’s now making it worse and I, for one won’t be pandering to his petulance for a while yet, Pogatetz is a thug, the linesman should probably have seen of it, he didn’t, so get on with it.
yawn yawn yawn…you’re right and everyone who opposed your views…eg me, giles oakley, spencer, east stand manc, otred, ot070506, drew vader are ALL WRONG..LOL…
why dont you have a go at that them..how they laughed off your comments….scroll up and read them again…
Its always you who responds and chats about rona..whether it be a ron thread or not….NOT the other was around…its your vitriol people respond to…eg read spencer and giles comments..infact most of the guys above.
you bore people…ive been posting on here for years…no one poster has ever made objections to anything ive said bar you. Yet youve come on here 5 mins…and most of the lads tend to disgree with what you say….wake up and smell the coffee lad…maybe you need to look at that big ronaldo chip on your shoulder. Its you who should be getting on with it after 7 yes 7 posters all laughed you out.. ” job done” ??? too late to save face…we all know you meant it..thats why giles, spencer, ot red, ot070506 said what they said about you…now jog on
and im not going to use harsh language and keep wasting my time responding to drivel. Ive got face and respect on here..some you you lack…looking back at all your comments on other threads….its been endless disagreement and you losing face..thats fact..not personal stuff.
by way…i would never insult utd fans intelligencia. Mohammed matadar is asian muslim..32…studied at beardwood comp…now a full time teacher there, has 2 sisters, his dad is very religious in the blackburn mosque area. Ive known this lad for years. He lives on 3 bold street…now if you dont believe me, ill prove it if not i couldnt give a fuck less. Cos all that matters is genuine intelligent utd fans who talk sense and who ive become great friend with and have gained respect and vice versa over the years…eg drew vader, failsworth, north stand, giles, king eric, anant, suli, roovez, peejay, olusanjo, ot red, tom f, denton davey, toney bee….list goes on ad on pal. All these guys back my argument up all the time.
Anyway as i said..i aint gonna argue..we just stated facts. Keep thinbking what you wana think..you’re right…and we whole all ridiculed your comments are wrong..ok..happy..
HAPPY NEW YEAR..give my best wishes to the ronster..bye bye
You’re point against me seems to be that seven people have posted against me which isn’t really a point in itself. If that was a point, you would find yourself indicted as wrong by the same standard when several people have been posting against you so try and move on from that and reason properly. I think if you read my earlier post you will see I said it was a penalty but that Ronaldo diving around is pointless and is indicative of his attitude of recent. I want him out, but I am not totally rational so i can accept people saying we should give him time and a chance to turn it around but by the standard of the last 6 months I’d say £40-60 million pounds wouldn’t be the end of the world. The speed of you’re reply is telling mate, consistently waiting for an opportunity to attack an opinion that doesn’t agree with yours intead of accepting that you don’t hold the rights to the truth and that it is a matter of debate, quashing the debate irrationally does you no favours so have another go and tell me why Ronaldo diving around like he’s been shot is going to help him to win penalties in the long run?
7 people have NEVER posted against me…so jog on. If consistently on a regular basis people..yes people keep ridiculing YOUR comments and laughing them off..calling you a kid etc…then thats time to look in the mirror and smell the coffee. The amount of posters that have called you obsessed, a joke, a jaker,a muppet etc defies belief.
As i said i aint got the energy and time to piss around and keep answering your inane arguments and ron “love in”
As i said you’re right…and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US ARE WRONG..OK..HAPPY LOL
happy new year
i’ll agree to disagree..ok..
Suhayl just leave it mate….this kid has no credibilty here…his arguments prove that. There’s always going to be muppets like him that post on here. By way loved what you failsworth and knightsmith and red bangladeshi did on the stevie me thread…CLASS AS USUAL MATE…LAUGHED MY SIDES OFF..piss funny
Have a good one tonight
Hahahaha, keep clubbing together lads…. The kid clearly has no credibility….don’t bother forming a decent argument, just stifle it irrationally…..
cheers pal…wished my best to Failsworth and knights..you too whatever you have planned….HAVE A GREAT ONE
Listen joke….most of the guys have laughed of your arguments..discussed your ronaldo obsession until we ve been blue in the face…talked about it rationally…reponded to your claptrap. But each and every one of us has found…you just dont seem to get the message..yes everybody has an opinion..some agree…some disagree. BUT You just seem to have this weird fascination with one of our players…..its kinda sick really. I mean i could understand if you were a girl. But just get over it…you seriously are embarrassing yourself…that kind of ignominy to u from most on here is no good.
Infact you and ron issue…has become like a nasty rash that wont go away….please do us a favour wont you…and DO ONE. Thankyou
sounds like you could be a Suhayl clone mate?…..less of the insults, form a proper argument, Ronaldo obsession haha? I occasionally write on ROM about his attitude and obviously have done several times in the last few weeks but it’s harly an obsession mate, it’s a bit of a debate and apart from Suhayl and now you, not many people have disagreed with some of the previous things I have said but each to their own, it’s not a problem. Every week there’s a story from a match which is about Ronaldo, no-one can get away from him. I shouldn’t have to say things like this because no-one can prove it and it’s an irrelevance in terms of the debate but I will in the vain hope that adds some weight to my argument in the face of the petty slights. I’m from Wythenshawe, I’ve been a season ticket holder since I was 5 years old with my dad and I go to games now with a few mates and I can assure you that there are a plenty of fans out there who are getting a bit sick of the Ronaldo show rolling through Old Trafford every week to the detriment of the team and the club. I’m off out now but good luck to you and your ROM world in which blog posts seem to be the problem in you’re life. ‘Ignominy to you from most here is no good’ – anglais s’il vous plait? …..Happy new year
ignominy..humiliation laddy..yawn yawn yawn blah blah blah..didnt even read most of what you said…too mundane and tooooooo predictable..same old same old…ron this and ron that.
Why dont you give the guy or his family a call..talk to his mother or someone how ron grates you soooo much. If not visit your GP lad..or a shrink or some counsellor. You seriously need some OCD ron tablets.
And off out, dont make me laugh???? surely that should be bed time?? huh???
Ive been a season ticket holder since 5…my dad took me..ive heard of a place called wythenshaw..so i’ll use that. Heard that chesnut many a time before…yeh mate..we all know you’re from the midlands..you’re 16…17th birthday in march and youve got some spots and some bum fluff has grown on your chin. ta ra
And please god…i pray..please dont let this vermin post on here again..please i’ll do anything god
Pogatetz is a complete disgrace, shud be banned from the EPL b4 he does some proper damage to someone. Will the FA bother to look at the video for this one? i doubt it. As for the debate boys, I have to say that i don’t agree entirely with Jake but he makes some gud points and tevez32 and Suhayl seem a bit angry, u need to calm down fellas! lol
Just out of interest, tevez32, how old are you? You cast aspersions on Jake’s age, but judging by your own post(s), you can’t be much older, surely?
Jake, we might’ve disagreed in the past, but I welcome and encourage a diversity of opinions/perspectives as they’re the propagators of healthy debate. FWIW, my earlier post in this thread was a genuine question, not in any way intended to undermine your post.
@ Suhayl Re: your little dig in the other thread, I’m sorry I posted in the heat of the moment, now. With a little more time I’d've just ignored it. But since it can’t be deleted, why don’t you construct a proper argument as to what exactly it was in my post that was wrong and why it makes me a ‘nagging woman’?
Or am I expecting too much?
I think tevez32 on the other thread and on here puts it brilliantly…seriously lad, ive written many a long paragraph on ronaldo…blimey spent hours responding to drivel. BUT 1 final time i’ll detail it all again. These are things ive said before a million times. But here goes again seeing you keep missing the bloody point and gloss over and read what you want to read.
1. As a season ticket holder since the mid 80′s…i love and die for man utd..me dad and grandad before me were seaon ticket holders. SO I WOULD NEVER LET ANYONE OR ACCEPT ANYONE DISRESPECTING MY CLUB.
2. What ronaldo did in the summer was dick behaviour….ive said that many a time…something you seem to forget.
3. i accept he was a twat..i accept he was a dick..i accept he ruined our summer..i accpet he acted like a prima donna…things ive said a million times.
4. I hated him and still dont love him as much. i accpet his theatrics, his mistakes….i was angry and livid in the summer so much so that i even came to punch ups with guys.
5. i dont sing ronaldo songs now and grit my teeth when in the stands. I dont wear 3 kits i have with his name on it anymore….instead wera other players names that i have.
I ACCEPT ALL THIS AND MORE AND I AGREE HE ACTED AND CAN ACT LIKE A TWAT. AND I WILL ALWAYS LOVE MY SCHOLSEYS GIGGSY ETC MORE.
however:-
1. The boy stayed…he admitted his mistake..so i accpet and understand that too
2. Scott produeced a brllliant article 6 months ago on what valuable service he has given us…hence after 5 years we were livid he wanted to leave. Scott acknowledge what he had given us, how a continental european lad didnt grow up supporting us…most south americans and southern europeans do support real. thats a fact. I ACCEPT AND UNDERSTAND THAT. that this boy from madeira always wanted to play for real before he retired…thats what he’s family wanted…are we too greedy and selfish to ignore that. We all move jobs dont we
3. IF he had gone..i would have been upset and abgry how he did BUT understood…..maybe there would be no statue of him outside OT…..but i wouldnt be blind to see what he acheived with us and did for 4 us…which is more than any player in recent history.
4. I agree he shouldnt have gone about it in the way he did….ive said that a million times. But the players got behind him, manager backed him to the hill…SO IF THEY CAN IM HAPPY TO LET DOGS LIE…and not keep bitching about it. SAF said he was naive young, real manipulated him, im happy wth that. SIr bob, sAf, gilly and the players all said the same. So why should i disagree.
5. My energies and efforts and anger NOW are towards that bastard club..who want to play with us.
6. My energies are with our players..our team, our aims of lifting trophies. And the last time i looked Ron was part of that team. He is the best in the world…why marginalise him????? Cos it aint gonna affect you and me…it’ll affect him and the team. the lad is moody and needs to be loved…whether you like it or not SAF puts an arm round him all te time, so does rio and giggsy etc. why????? because they need him to fire. With him have the tools and weapons to be unbeatable…without him we lose alot. We are no one man team, before you jumped to that conclusion. BUT 42 goals, ability to win change games etc etc etc etc. MEANs he is one valuble asset.
7. Why keep moaning and bitching about him at every given opportunity. Why not support that player who wears that shirt that badge. Dont support the man the character. But Ron the man utd footballer, I do that.
8. Im happy he stayed..is he goes i wont lose any sleep over it. I dont scrutinise every single one of his quotes. Every second pointing fingers at him, he’s done this and that and he’s off and he’s this. I like the clubs stance and the managers stance. That gives me enough contentment.
9. I respect others opinions. And i know some fans will always hate him..even if he stayed his career here..which he could weel do…even tho some cia fbi fans have their own conspiracies on things.
10 . i just dont like fans coming on here and ruining it for everyone else. why keep on going on and on and on about the same old over and over again. Just get over it.
11. I dont know about you..as youve just popped up on the radar. But every time Jake posts an opinion on here…its the anti christ…anti ronaldo brigade. The lad never talks about other issues, or the team, or the result, or other threads which are non ron, never talks about the manager, the other players. every posts he makes has a rona dig in it. Whats that?????? Surely you can accept that is a tad ott..a tad weird. Im all for constructive debate…but c’mon that sponge has dried up and worn out soooooooooo much theres nowt left to use.
12. As i said i respect all opinions…in the heat of moments you say things and get angry….i was born a true die hard..tatoos you name it. Hence anybody who disses my club i get peed at. dippers , bitters, rboys..that leads to fights and punch ups and a night in the cells. UTD fans constantly dissing one of our players…i just cant stomach that
13. As the posters above said…they al respect banter and opinions..but jake or whatever seriously does make some inane comments at times…as pointed out by 7 yes 7 posters just on this thread. Infcat look back to other threads and you’ll find the same story. Someone may disagree with you from time to time..ok. But this lad…lets just say he’s comments are ones ive read from bitters and gooners and dippers on here.
Apologies for any spelling mistakes..havent got the time today…to read it through.
Today ron came out and said he’s happy. im ok with that…i dont want to psych analyse it and start spouting its untrue, he didnt mean it, look at his eyebrows, look at this word etc, look at his bad language. In my book woman do that to men…i know…my wife does it often when i come in late from a game…..thinkin ive been upto no good.
We should all be united behind our club, team, shirt and badge. And ron is still…yes still part of our family. YES i admit and accpet his dick behaviour and im with you 100% on what he did. But now is the present and future. time to get behind him for all the AMAZING POSTIVES HE ALSO HAS…AND YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO THERES PLENTY. If the club and the fans pull and support in the same direction..thats the way to go.
So when wilkinson chops him….i wont claim ron was petulant..i’ll get behind him. when poggy starngles him….i wont like jakey boy…ake out ron went down easy…i’ll call pogggy a BASTARD.
I respect your opinion, debate, banter etc. but sometimes this ronaldo bashing incessant bashing is way tooooooooooooo much and jakey boy does it with a passion.
i supportes robbo, duxbury, stapleton, phelan, moran, bailey, davenport, moses, anderson, sparky, gibson, beardsmore, blackmore, whiteside etc etc
I supported shitbags like prunier, kleberson, dejemba djemba, cryuff, fortune, richardson, bellion etc etc
And i’ll support ron…aybe not love him as once was not yet anyway. But i will….and i wont keep bashing him for all and sundry every every given…white boxers, his hair, his face whatever.
Because all the players wore our badge..our crest and our shirt. If Ron had gone ok…but the last time i saw….he still wears it….so he’s our player
Hope you understand where im coming from…giles oakley in his last 2 sentences out it nicely…why not just get behind him…accept his faults and mistakes….and if and until he goes just support him….AS A MANCHESTER UTD PLAYER….and a great one at that
I post on plenty of other things and who are you to decide what I can post on and again, it’s in a Ronaldo blog? Read something else if you don’t like hearing about Ronaldo but it’s a big issue at the moment for plenty of fans that our star player looks like he couldn’t give a toss. I think that’s something worth posting on, when it isn’t an issue, there will be no blogs by Scott and posts by me on it. The point about Ronaldo is he’s doing nothing/has done nothing on the pitch where it matters to rectify what he did in summer and he’s actually going the other way. Suhayl’s mission to stifle a bit of debate is telling, with monumental posts contradicting his slight against fans like me that we are the obsessed/nagging women. I’m the one that woudn’t mind seeing us sell Ronaldo where as some fans can’t bare the thought of United without him. I’ve seen two other United football blogs in the last 5 minutes which go just as far as me in their opinion on Ronaldo, if not a bit further questioning his motives for his most recent statement and I wasn;t looking for them, they just came up. So give it a break Suhayl/Tevez (same person) beacuse for the first time in your life apparently someone disagrees with you and makes a good case (as do many others) which is opposed to yours. Glad to see you’ve settled down a bit, consistently comparing us to women was becoming a little disturbing, like women are the worst things, unable to form opinions and should be suppressed into coffee corners.
tevez32- wasn’t asking for your translation of ignominy but clarification on the sentence construction hence why I quoted the sentence….not just the word…as for Wythenshawe, there’s a pub called the anvil there which my dad used to be landlord of in late 80s when we lived there, so just ask in there who Mike Ryan and his son Jake were, will that do? We are all fans on here as Suhayl states with his generational history of his United support so it’s not an issue but I was just trying to stop you from hi-jacking United fans intellectual property with your petty slights.
Eaststand- cheers…and I reckon you’re expecting too much, we’ll all be nagging women again soon enough, must’ve taken him all his energy to suppress the insults in that monster…oh and tevez and suhayl are one and the same so no need to address them seprately, read it back with that in mind and their interactions are put into a new hilarious context.
So suhayl/tevez Ronaldo blogs by Scott for Ronaldo posters, maybe you should read something else because there will be United fans for a good while yet who aren’t satisfied he’s re-earned the respect that was so readily given in recent years.
that was not a strangle. maybe a minor grapple. nothing real serious.
No Mike Ryan at the anvil sorry laddy
No jakey boy either
Tevez32 is a good pal of mine on here..Correction NOT the same person
I dont stifle anyones debate…..hence ive had and do continue to have great banter on here woth sooooo many guys….infact 99% of guys and have done for years.
Whatever and however you construct your argument over and over again, the facts are you bitch and moan about ronaldo like its going out of fashion. Like i told you if you hate the fella so much why dont you do something about it….peaceful one man march, placards, tie yourself to some trees, picket, chain yourself to the goals posts, tatoo i hate ronaldo on your arse and do a streak.
Facts are you do and are obsessed by him…i took the same to go through all your posts and believe it or not you mention ronaldo 9 times out of every 10 posts you make. Facts jimbob
Plenty of fans????? Why make yourself look vindicated when no less than 7 posters laughed you out of 1 thread.
Women hater???? blimey scraping the barrel now to form an argument
Nowt wrong with Ron debate…but you go on and on and on…psycho analysing every word…his life, his demeanour, his appearance. Which obviously would pose the question..is there something wrong with you? All this hate on one man? Or are you gay and just fancy the fella so much?
2 blogs you just saw huh? lol. wow do you want a blue peter badge?
Intellectual property??? lol. Tevez and suhayl the same person …have you heard yourself. Seriously you’ll do anything to appease your own obsession…make me laugh so much joke..sorry jake.
As i’ll keep telling you mr anti christ anti ronaldo…or whoever you are…you are obsessed…many many a guy have said that..thats another fact. And you do moan and bitch so much….nothing positive ever comes out of your mouth ever.
So jog on…blimey lucky you’re not rons mum…he’d be seriously whipped each second or each day. Infact seeing he OWES us so much forgetting what he’s already done for us in 5 years. Why dont you try to get hold off him and he can take you out to the seaside…hence you can stop your he owes me lines and your constant ronaldo itch and winge.
Anvil..mike ryan..lol..lol…
funny kid
And dont bring Eaststandmanc into it. Making out he’s your only buddy on here..oh…no friends..arghhhhhhhh.
I clarified my argument and debate with eaststand.
So you stand alone joke..( sorry not a petty slight)..mistype it happens lol
bye bye until next time
666 lol
I can’t believe the drivel you write to boost your own inflated ego. I couldn’t care less if I don’t have ‘friends’ in the virtual ROM world, for me it’s about opinions and debates….9 out of 10 on Ronaldo? are you mental? you’ve looked at every post i’ve made…well you clearly haven’t….nothing positive? another indication you haven’t read all my posts…You’re an absolute lunatic mate because I can guarantee you 100% Mike Ryan was the landlord of the anvil in the late 80s and I am his son. Love the way you’ve taken up Tevez’s argument because you are the same person. Stand alone? hahahaha…like it matters….I suggest you go back to the anvil and ask about Mike Ryan if you have (haven’t) already because you’re wrong mate, not a matter of opinion or debate…you are just wrong….oh, and I have never mentioned Ronaldo’s appearance, life or demenaour, just his performances and words when it has been an issue, you’re a master of making stuff up and telling yourself it’s true, I’ll give you that mate…The obsession seems to come from the man who thinks 5 years of Ronaldo has been all that matters at United and that we can’t possibly carry on without him…keep knocking back the medication Suhayl because you’re absolutely crazy with ‘years of great banter’ and 99% fans on here….
I never said 5 years of ronaldo is all that matters…never said that laddy jim..so whose making things up?
lunatic mental medication.woooooooooooooooh lol ha ha ha…something you need to tell us?
And dont call me mate….i aint ronaldo obsessed …thats you..i just respond to ur drivel
by the way Facts are still facts no matter how much you deny it…you make ludicrous comments everywhere you go…surely everybody and thats alot of people cant all be wrong and you’re right.
ja ja ja ja lol.
I heard ronaldo had a haircut….you could make a story out of that…he snipped it too much, the cut can be misconstrued for the letter R..for real and not ronaldo..lol
ahhhhhhhhhhhh
until next time jake ryanaldo..hmmmmm lol
PS. Still no mikey down at anvils…lol
I could really get into having these battles with you on here Suhayl beacause people like you really get on my wick but my degree beckons so I’m going to have call it quits after this because it’s too taxing to try and get through to people like you but you’re clearly a bit unhinged, occasionally masquerading as tevez32, both mysteriously on ROM at the exact same time, even now commenting simultaneously in two separate debates as tevez and Suhayl yet both maintaining that I am truly the idiot (clever, nobody will work it out then)…give it a break mate, managing to question the validity of someone else’s actual history from you’re medical chair and straight-jacket in Singapore or wherever you are. happy new year or whatever it is you celebrate
Seriously i do not for the life of me understand where you get these spurious accusations from. I state facts like many have said that you bitch about ronaldo 24/7 and you hate him with a vengeance which is true. i dont like lieing. Just state the facts that you are ronaldos alter ego…which you are..lol. FACT
Get on your wick??? blimey if i saw you in real life and you wound me up like this…..believe me you’d be popping daisies. FACT again believe me lad.
Tevez32 is a pal of mine on here…he posts what he wants to posts….if he has similar views and sticks up for me thats his own prerogative. MANY MANY MANY fans on here do agree with my opinions UNLIKE YOU. FACT AGAIN LADDY. And if he was posting at same time…then that kinda answers the question…how could i read scotts threads..post my own comments and yet be tevez32 at the same time???? lol Are you a pagal???. Im good at doing a few thkbgs at once…but believe me not that…i wouldnt be so sad and so weak to do that. I can fight my own battles…swatting flies aint hard.
Medical chair? Singapore???? ha ha ha ha ha. Comments gooners and rboys and dippers use on here. Bit derogatory and insulting and a tad racist in nature that comment. As there are a few people with disabilities who use this forum and quite a few people from the far east india japan singapore who post on this thread. Very insulting to them.
whatever i celebrate???? Again is that some kind of racist cultural creed comment???? Without knowing my race, colour or religion.
I am born and bred here in mancs..32 years and counting.
Im not going to reply anymore..you seem to be going down the racist xenophobic road. Which i find sickening.
By way i remember doing my degree long long time ago. How do you manage the time to study and comment so much?
what and where do you study??? ( serious question lad)?
medical chair…means mental asylum chair to me so sorry for the confusion, was obviously continuing from the angle I made about you being a lunatic so let’s not try and take the moral high ground because you are just about the most abusive person I have ever come across on ROM. Plenty of people have agreed with things I have said on ROM in various blogs concerning tactics/transfers and all the usual chatter but it doesn’t matter if someone doesn’t, it’s not an issue because I stand by my opinions anyway. I like to think I’m relatively knowledgable about the game, one blog with a few fans who contradict me isn’t going to change that is it? I’ve played football to a pretty good standard, I know what I’m talking about and that isn’t going to change because you say so.. Popping daisies? are you simple? 32 and you come out with that and considering you’ve never met or seen me…you’re words get on my wick, that’s a fair comment…racist? I don’t think so, more to do with the point that a man from Singapore probably knows less about Wythenshawe, United or the fact that my dad Mike Ryan was the landlord of a pub there for a while in the late 1980s when I was young which you seem to ridiculously contest, stereotypical maybe, racist, I wouldn’t say so…maybe you should try not telling lies? tevez is a virtual pal? maybe, but he may as well be a clone coming out with the same mis-quoted, mis-interpreted spurious stuff that you do….you seem to have this un-contested belief that if a lot say you’re right, then you are…well you’re wrong, occasionally finding the angles, or seeing the things that others don’t is what sometimes cuts the wheat from the chaff in evrything including footballing opinions, sometimes people will agree with you, other times they won’t but it is no indictment on the opinion made if they don’t, especially if they don’t by using made-up points about an argument like you do about mine…Leeds-History-doing my MA, it’s been the holidays hence the surge in my posts, it will dwindle over the next few weeks…32, I can’t actually believe you’re 32 and you’re still so angry, I gave up being that angry at about 18….
oh and just to clarify my girlfriend’s sister has cerebral polsey so I wouldn’t call anyone who was disabled because I am well aware of mental health issues and what is pretty sickening that is that you, a 32 year old man try to label someone as attacking disabled people when I obviously would have said wheelchair in that sentence if I was referring to disabled people, not medical chair followed by straight-jacket, clearly referring to the point that I think you are an angry lunatic as I said previously…right, that’s me done now, enough battling with the hyperbolic Suhayl
You keep saying enough enough..im going to to do this and that…and yet keep posting time and time and time again. You ‘re the one who makes spurious comments, silly inane comments. Then once it looks like youve landed yourself in shit over the words you use, you make a million and one reasons to deny and try to worm your way out of what you stated initially. Whether itd be Ron, berba, tevez32 or mental illness, dissing another country. I mean you can retract all you fuckin like.Once its said, it has been said. You might aswell admit to what you instead of trying to dig yourself out of a hole.
Contradicting yourself at every juncture. I have always stated Facts about you and your constant ron whinge. You you’re the one with the asylum jabs..singapore jabs etc etc.
In my 32, yes 32 years of experience, i have learnt that when you do scrape away at the surface…people tend to show their true colours. And you boy have just done that. And its tooooooo late jimmy to start retracting one the horse has bolted.
Lunatic…asylum…singapore…monster…simple…blimey theres no need for insults like that. I mean banter…a little bit of needle yes…disagreements ok…arguments ok. but insults c’mon lad…there is a line we shouldnt cross.
Maybe you’re going down the road some gits have done on here dissing peoples families and race.
You say You were implying about looneys as you call them in straight jackets and simple people. IN my book thats just as worse…..those people themselves are disabled and have not been blessed with capabilities. they’re just as ill and disabled as you state about your gfriends sister. and people with psychological issue require great assistance and help too. In my book they’re all under priveledged and require sympathy and empathy. Anyway you’ve said what you said. to me i personally wouldnt go down that road or even broach a subject like that. as you say you know someone with disabilities. I know too well to after having worked for the NHS. and unlike another spurious coment you made..i DIDNT AND WOULDNT ATTACK a decent comment. Your sentences connoted enough for me.
Enough with the insults…and anyway if i was soooo angry and a lunatic…why is it that facts tell me that in 3 years of reading and posting on ROM…i have NOT once had any argument or been given insults like you have with any other poster..banter yes, disagreement…little sarky comments. But nothing of the likes with you. If i was all the things you say…why have i made so many mates on here..people who respect me and vice versa…guys who ive met up with at OT in real life, guys who i have phone numbers for….guys who ive had banter with for years…many many a poster. So if what you say is true, how do you explain…that i get on soooo well with everyone else…genial..kind..laughs..jokes etc.
Yet youve come on here 2 minutes…and have already ruffled feathers and have put the cats amongst the pigeons. Thats just a fact lad
hyperbolic idiot
And if i was the PERSON YOU KEEP MAKING ME OUT TO BE AND INSULTING AT EVERY GIVEN OPP. Then surely scott would have barred me and moderated me years ago.
Anyway lad i do feel you should respect you elders…thats the way i was brought up, seeing that you must be in your early or mid 20′s.
Anyway, i asked you a serious question about your degree..as i studied in yorkshire too…used to go clubbing loads in leeds in the 90′s evolution, majestiks, heaven and hell etc. Was gonna bury the hatchet as this is tooooooooo draining and time consuming for me. My free time should be dedicated to 1 sole purpose that is MANCHESTER UTD.
I respect everybody’s opinion even though you state the contrary. But i will stick by what i say you ronaldo whinge toooooooo much. sos lad, thats how i feel. Anyway no more petty squabbles…ive said my bit and youve said yours. As your elder..i should know better hence im offering out an olive branch for a truce a ceasefire. As i said i may not agree with your ron hyperbole….but i suppose you’re a utd fan…and utd fans should stick together..atleast that. So i hope you accept lad..and stop the insults..and we can live in peace on ROM. Maybe even become pals on here????
Or is that too much to ask???
Your call
Good luck in your degree by way…great days uni days…wish i could go back
There you go again..im offering out the olive branch and you revert to type and insult me again. Tare ma idiot ne rundy?? i know. But c’mon no need for that.
I’ll try again…read my last comments above. I’ll leave it to you….
As i said im happy to draw the line and make peace..be bigger man..and maybe become pals. ( and im not being sarky either).
what you say?
will leave it to you..your call