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glad to see shinji score a hattrick.many were writing him off after he got injured and all.well take that shinji doubters.
What I liked in today’s match was the pressing game early on and then KagawaBunga !
When you talk about adding a “different dimension” to the team’s play, we saw today how he provides it with stealth, give-and-go, wall-passing and goals that are like a shiv in the ribs of the opposition.
As good as TheWayneBoy’s goal was – and it was terrific – the way in which the team dovetailed for the three attacking moves that resulted in KagawaBunga’s goals was really exhilarating.
AND, AV7′s left-footed pass wasn’t half-bad, either !
i daresay this hattrick guarantees kagawa a place in the first 11 on tuesday…i think giggsy could come on as a sub against real once we get into a comfortable position.his 1000th match appearance must not be delayed any further.
What an awesome game for Carrick as usual.Brilliant.
Suarez top scorer in the league now, 2 ahead of RvP… and I could care less
They were making a deal out of it at half time in the wigan v liverpool game, somehow forgetting RvP is contesting for 3 cups, not 1 (and liverpool aren’t actually contesting the league). Suarez will get PFA players player of the year because nobodsy will give it to RvP twice in a row, esp. now that he’s in a United shirt… but I wouldnt be surprised if Bale takes it instead. It’s a vote afterall.
But on the goal scoring thing, if we go through Madrid Suarez will finish top scorer cause RvP won’t be guaranteed 90 minutes every single week in the Prem, whereas Suarez will be absolutely guaranteed it, he’s the only person who can deliver them any accolade this year and it’s a personal award if he wins it. It will be even more in Suarez’ favor if we wrap up the league early, since Fergie will start playing Chicharito a lot more when the pressure is off I reckon.
But hey, United are top scorers in the league on 68… beat that or STFU!
Roll on MADRID!
First goal resulted from Valencia taking a chance and whipping one in with his left… this should give him some incentive to try that more often.
Also, nice to hear the Carrick song doing the rounds today
Didn’t manage to watch the game, but reading some of the comments of the other thread I thought we lost 4-0. Brilliant goals from Kagawa and great strike from Rooney. When was the last time we saw Rooney do that move of dropping a shoulder to lose a defender and unleashing a shot from distance? It was his favourite move when he was younger, good to see it again. Carrick looked like our go to guy, and we need him fit & on form all the way. Bring on the next game!
Yes we are winning, but Real beat Barca again, with a reserve team for that matter, and they look really dangerous, everyone must be up for it!
Kagawa is living his dream, he reminds us of js park today, work rate, tenacity, honesty and ball distribution. Big ups for roo boy, his goal was a pure class. God save and see us through madrid
SAF: “Midway through the second half, I didn’t think it would end up 4-0 as I think we were a bit ragged for that period,” he told MUTV. “But, when we brought Shinji into central midfield, it made a difference to us and he ended up with a hat-trick.
“It’s brilliant for him. The lad is a good finisher and his second goal was so composed and an intelligent finish while his third was absolutely brilliantly-taken. It’s been a great day for him.”The boss has already expressed an opinion that Kagawa will be even better next season after properly bedding in, which is an exciting prospect on Saturday’s evidence.
“He got that injury around October-November and was out quite a while,” continued Sir Alex. “It knocked him back a bit but he’s gradually coming back and I think you’ll see a really good player next year.”
Virus watch: Ozil and Arebloa wer completely rested. Kediera and Ronny played 30 mins.
@NBI Onion
SAF is a sentimental old fellow starting Giggs against Real Madrid in the middle for his 1000th game.
Would love to hear your opinions about our lineup against Madrid.whatever I am up to wouldn’t work.any thought?!
Off topic
Some people might not like this but Berbatov scored another outragous penalty. Some of our players could learn a thing or two on how to have ice cold blood when taking a penalty instead of trying to just hit it as hard into a corner
Kagawas finishing is magnificent
You just can’t fault it, he knows what he’s doing hence why I think him zaha cleverley and other lads I may even put danny the lad in it, this guys once they get the understanding going in the coming years will twist bloods
nice game.up kagawa, up rooney
I really hope that Giggsy if he starts, he starts as a lef winger cause that’s where he should start.
In the middle? hell no, I hope he proves me wrong, but if SAF screams about Jones to cover Ronaldo and rightly so, why he would play Giggsy in the middle on tuesday?? I can’t figure that out, and that’s why he will play on the left.
IF Giggsy plays on the left, where will Kagawa play? On the right? I doubt so, so it’s Rooney on the right and Kagawa behind RVP, which then leaves the likes of Nani and Valencia out of equation.
I will wait the starting line-up with interest and wishing that Cleverley plays in the middle, Kagawa on the left, Rooney behind RVP and Valencia or Nani on the right, it could also be Young.
DDG
Rafael Rio VIdic/Evans Evra
Valencia/Nani/Young CLeverley Carrick Kagawa
Rooney
RVP
Given how Evra was exposed today, I suppose Kagawa won’t be playing against Real. Most likely Young or Rooney covering the left side while Valencia or Welbeck on the right
I would rather fancy Giggs to be rather on the bench, I don’t wanna spoil his 1000th football professional appearance but Fergie will probably stick the default Cleverly/Carrick combo, that is of course if Jones is not fit to play.the big question to me is whether we will play wingers or not!
@Marq
I could be mate, but I bet that against Madrid he would hav to play more tight and cover more, that’s why I put Kagawa there, it’s a different and a tougher game, so the mentality of players will change, that’s why Kagawa on the left. I trust him to take the defensive job seriously.
STATS – All Competitions
RVP: 35 games: 29 Starts and 6 Sub : 23 Goals and 8 Assists -> Total 31 Points
WayneRooney: 28 Games: 24 Starts and 4 Sub: 14 Goals and 12 Assists -> Total 26 Points
Chicharito: 27 Games: 17 Starts and 10 Sub: 15 Goals and 5 Assists -> Total 20 Points
Kagawa: 17 Games: 14 Starts and 2 Sub: 5 Goals and 2 Assists -> 7 Points
AMAZING stats.
Real’s counter attack is second to none, you give space to Ronaldo and Co and they will kill you.we say this lesson at Camp Nou and we empirically experienced it in the 1st leg.hopefully with Fergie’s witty tactical master mind and our recent domestic success we will exploit their weakness although I genuinely believe it will be a very tough match, but seriously then with the right formation we can out smart any team.we have the right players for the right occasion.
If Jones is fit wouldn’t surprise me to see Sir Alex start the same line up as the first leg.It’s up to Madrid to come at Utd so i think we can figure on a counter attacking line up.Gotta say not a big fan of Rooney playing wide and i think Tony V would give Rafa more support down the right hand side,those 2 work well together
Wayne Rooney was fucking awful. His constant ability to misplace easy passes and miscontrol the ball and still be rated so highly is nothing short of sorcery. I know what you drooling spastics are gonna say that he did “this” or “that” … sure … but any other player would have been given the hairdryer and hauled off at half time for being an embarrassment.
The arrival of Robin Van Persie has made him look exactly what he is the kind of striker in a big game that is told to do a job.
- Michael Carrick was very impressive pinging balls through their midfield into our strikers.
- Anderson was very average was quite happy to see Tom Cleverley come on until he came on and misplaced his first two passes. Problems.
- We really miss Rafael Da Silva’s guile from right back.
The star man … of course … was Shinji Kagawa he looked lost out on the left but in the middle of the pitch he was different class and his second goal. THAT FINISH. Fucking incredible.
I’m a drooling spastic. I would take a player who misplace passes and gets two assists and a goal, over a player who can pass but does nothing else.
Guess Sir Alex made a horrible & terrible mistake of leaving that player on the pitch, he should apologise to all United supporters for the mistake and heed the advice of people like Daniel88
We have only scratched the surface with Kagawa this season. PLENTY more to come from him. A fantastically gifted technical little player. Belter by Rooney. At this time United are one big winning machine.
Kagwa – age 23 – first Asian to score a hat trick in the EPL.
By the way has Hazard scored a hat trick? Ha!
Yeah how shit is Rooney eh. Seen his goal record Daniel? He also offers so much more to the team. Say what you want about him when the big games come Rooney delivers. Sick of cunts making out he is some kind of pub player. Stats speak for themselves. Fact is United are a poorer side without him.
Andromeda. Alright pal. Oh no doubt Madrid are a good counter attacking side but unlike Barca, United can defend. It’s great seeing those cunts lose at minute. They are getting into a nasty habit of losing games last couple of months. Unheard of a year ago.
Daniel 88 is 100 percent troll told you lads that months ago.Trolls haven’t been around for a while noticed Joffery showed his face today same as anti scouser.That crew (or same person) always show up at same time Ninja the cunt completely disappeared,wonder if he’ll be the next to show his face.Always work the blog together,couple of other cunts forget their names off hand will remember them when their names show up.Still think it’s Capt cunt,Red meekler or whatever the fuck his name was and that crew,Joffery was always around with those cunts
Kagawa has to play behind the striker otherwise he is ineffective and this is evident from his dortmund days play him near the box and he will be deadly.
Rooney and Chacharito don’t play well together
Rooney and Welbeck play really well together
Rooney and Valencia play really well together
Rvp and Valencia don’t play well together
Rvp and Welbeck don’t play well together
Rvp and Chicharito play well together (at least better than with Rooney)
I think the only attacking player who plays well with all the other attacking players is Kagawa he Clicked with Nani from the start and did so with RVP no problem and now he is clicking with Rooney.
So playing him in the whole behind the striker is going to help us a lot especially if we play Nani on the right will help because Valencia doesn’t play one twos or involves the other too much
Alonso was not even on the bench against Barca. Their team will be very well rested with their players having come into a good patch of form.
If it rains we will certainly win.
Wayne. Agree pal. Megleeker was a cunt. Captain k9 and Jason park. Wouldn’t surprise me if same lot this Daniel character.
You’d always want Rooney in your team. He plays just like a United fan would do, if given the chance.
If Rooney’s not scoring, he’s making a goal or at least creating chances, and he just hates to lose. He has such an influence on the team, that it’s ridiculous to even think that he won’t start against Real. He’ll probably have a blinder, and drive United on to victory.
I was in Madrid last week, and the talk over there is that Kaka will play against ‘Manchester’. It was good to see the trail left by United fans around the Bernebau. The underground stations were plastered with United stickers.
@ GFS – what planet are you on? When we won 19 which was the pairing that was on fire second half of that season – I think you will find its Rooney and Pea. Rooney plays well with everyone, other than Berba.
This was the 13th consecutive game in which Barcelona have conceded – they have a problem.
Rooney makes our team tick simple as. When Rooney is in form we play better and fuck any trolling twat that cant see that.
Kagawa was great. I m happy about him. He had injurie, needed to adapt…he put lot of effort to get in team.
But Rooney…that is what i m talking about…like i said. He is not just a striker, he is much more. His goal shows what kind of player we ve got. You can always count on him.
Good composure from shinji, anyone can see that the lad has been schooled the dortmund technical style.. Guile, flair and technique, hoping he adapts further and keeps improving.
Sshh, what was that noise??
Oh, it was the sound of a screw tightening!
Good game for goal difference, but I doubt we will need it.
Can’t see us dropping 12 points in 10 games. We will drop 7 max if that.
Versus RM – for me:
DG
RD, VI, RI, EV
MC, PJ
DW, SK, RVP
WR
Kaka ? He is exactly that.
Or more defensive first half:
DG
RD, V, R, EV
VA, MC, PJ, NA
RVP
WR
However as Jones passing is not MF standard this would require Carrick doing a lot of work to defend and link attack, and he had a bit of a run today already.
NBI Red Onion @ 22:24: “By the way has Hazard scored a hat trick? Ha!”
Ha, indeed. UTD missed a very expensive bullet when that guy signed with his dream club.
How good can Kagawa be ? A lot depends on the chemistry he can establish with his mates – I reckon that we’ll see the best out of the main four when SAF plays Nani with RVP, TheWayneBoy and KagawaBunga. That will be a kaleidoscope of talent, speed, skill, and finishing.
Agree with parryheid. Kaka is now fucking garbage. What a fall from grace.
NBI. Oh Barca do have problems mate and it’s great to see. Steroid abusing cunts playing every single game. Not natural. Truth is beyond their first 12 or 13 the rest ain’t up to it. See Valdez got sent off for hounding ref. They do this week in week out yet seem to get away with it. Arrogant bastards.
How can we ensure at OT that it is clear to RM that they are a virus and it is their new name? If I can scalp a ticket and make it on time I need to get a banner made with virus picture – arrow – real marid – arrow – diving virus – full stop.
@ King Eric – you must have read all those reports connecting Armstrong drug guy with Barca medic or whatever he was, now left, maybe they are missing him since Armstrong thing blew up, getting a few injuries too I note. How can the connection not be more investigated? I really do not understand that.
Does anyone know the referee for Madrid match? I hope it’s someone who is experienced and FAIR, those virus flunkeys are going to be throwing themselves to the ground for any reason, especially if they are not getting their way, and they have a few dirty players like Ramos, the ref better have a masters in detecting simulation. And we know the way that classless runt Maureen intimidates ref’s don’t forget he lied about ref Anders Fisk when Chelsea played Barca, the guy then got so many death threats from, Chelsea fans he quit 2 weeks later. The bastard killed his career and never even apologise of acknowledged it. Maureen is a pure ruthless bastard. SAF is actually a very decent man. Those people wanting Maureen at OT have no class or sense of decency or honour, this may be a football Club but gy God we are not at that level yet.
I notice you people aren’t big on addressing the arguments.
@ King Eric
” Yeah how shit is Rooney eh. Seen his goal record Daniel? He also offers so much more to the team. Say what you want about him when the big games come Rooney delivers ”
- Feel free to respond to what I ACTUALLY said anytime.
That was the only response that didn’t descent into ONLY crude name calling (as you know crude name calling is my hobby but one needs an argument to go with … usually ) but detective Wayne makes me laugh. I really enjoyed Plymouth University. LOL.
In the biggest game this season Wayne Rooney was tasked with tracking opposition defenders. He did better at tracking defenders than he did passing and controlling the ball in the first 45 minutes today. Calling him a pub player on that half is actually an insult to many pub players. I dont play for a pub but I didn’t miscontrol the ball in all of 2011 as many times as Rooney did from 3:00pm to 3:45pm.
I really need to find a place to download full matches. Anyone know a place ?.
To be honest mate I have suspected summat is amiss for a while before all this Armstrong medical staff thing. As I say the like of Messi plays every game and never gets injured. He was stretchered off and they said it looked serious. He played 2 days later. Not normal but then surely random testing goes on at Barca?
@Marq
exaclty mate! Better have a player who sometimes misplaces his passes and scores and assists every time than those who only can pass. STATS prove your worth. It’s not always like that, bbut games are won with goals and assists that leads to goals.
If I recall we lost our title with goal difference, and that’s why stats are what matters in the end. If you deliver, you will be remembered, if you don’t, well we will soon forget your name.
That’s why we always back Nani, because his stats prove the inconsistency myth, if the case were about who passes most accurately, well Rooney, even though a very technical player, mispasses alot, but doesn’t get stick. And Nani does. Don’t want to get into another nani thread, but just to point out the obvious.
STATS do matter in these kind of games, HELL, in all kind of games, Look at CHicha, he has improved his all around game, but he’s a poacher, without goals, we would be saying goodbye to him. BUT NO, he DELIVERS and is our golden piece.
respect.
Didn’t realize Evans was on the pitch today. Good thing i guess
Imagine the face of those ABU supporters and media when they realise that Kagawa scored a hattrick in his 15th start.
AMAZING isn’t it. hahah.
B-E-L-I-E-V-E
Troll’s by who they are will never be positive that’s not their point of exsistence.They spread negativity and look for weakness were proper fans get on each other if that happens their job is done.Example lot of discussion about Ronnie legend or not,I called him a cunt so low and behold Joffery shows up saying I was over the top etc looking for others who are just fans to pile on
That’s the way trolls work divide and conquer.Top trolls have good knowledge and are smart so can discuss football with anyone and will pretend to be a fan then throw in negative points
Plz guys,need a gud youtube link 2 watch d highlights of d match.
@wayne
“Example lot of discussion about Ronnie legend or not”
English is not my first language but what you are trying to say with this? That I am a troll? or those that when we discuss properly, they will come into a discussion and cause disharmony, like with Rooney now?
I hope it’s the latter mate and Iagain misunderstood you.
@wayne just ignore the TROLLS any 1 that calls other United fans spastics for thinking Rooney is a great player can go fuck themselves.. you know how you are. Twat!
we’re uniiiiiiited and shinjis on fire!
WeAreUnited no mate I like you you’re not a troll I actually love your passion for what you believe but imo somewhat misguided and naïve
Trolls are the invention of the internet who’s main purpose is to infiltrate a blog and cause havoc whether it be opposing fans or doing for a challenge.Obviously ROM is a great place to come and attack then you get all the plastics and fuckwits agreeing so its a easy target..At the beginning and through middle of the season whole bunch of troll /cunts would show up together and work the blog.Lately because Utd are playing well and have the title wrapped the fuckers have disappeared. Their getting ready because they figure Utd could lose to Madrid so they can start the shit parade
Ferguson said: “There hasn’t been anything to encourage me to think Cristiano would come back here. As far as I am aware, there is nothing in it at all. Ronaldo has got two years left on his contract and it seems to me it is all part of the negotiations that are going on about a new deal. Maybe his agent is playing the game. I think it is false hope.”
Hmmmm.
Times have changed in my day I got into fights didn’t matter who it was or how close they wereI ‘ve had fights with my brother who was 10 yrs older than me and loved to wind me up.In the 70′s I kicked my best freinds head in on the treaces at OT becaue Spurs beat us bad and he was taking the piss.Utd run deep with with me so I don’t belive in plastic flags and wankers
Good article on Carrick: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2287214/Michael-Carrick-sing-2009-Champions-League-final-loss-Barcelona-Rome.html
@wayne I respect your opinion and cheers mate for the kind words!
I thought you called me a troll so I was a bit confused, because of course I know what a troll is, but thanks for the clarification haha
One thing I don’t agree and understand why you’re calling me misguided and naive. I know it’s not in a disrespectful way, but I don’t agree with that.
I believe in my own eyes and perspective and understanding of the football and make my judgement based on that, maybe we see football in a different kind, but misguided and naive I am not. My strong opinions only makes me different from you. The same thing can be said about you.
I am born in the late 80 and you have lived the 70′s and that’s I believe our opinions differ, I just see football differently and maybe more in the modern way.
That doesn’t make me or anyone else misguided or naive, or less appreciated. The late 80′s, the late 90′s and the newer generation have also their voice and should be respected, it’s not only you oldies
respect! and
Cause if we go that way, then I could call you old and that your judgement should be updated a little bit into the 2000 century, but I won’t say that mate haha, cause every opinion is valuable, the good ones!
peace.
@wayne have to ask. What would you class as a plastic fan?
Thing is as far as I’m concerned the world is fucked up,young lads are becoming the wankers and the women are the ones who have the balls
Everything is becoming so fucked up,you know what drone strikes against cunts who want to kill us is not a bad thing
@wayne im only 33 but id say its not the women have more balls. Its just how your brought up and were in the world… But anyways im no plastic. My blood runs red.
Belfast red never said you was plastic mate its good your blood runs red
Hammed abiola f: “Kagawa is living his dream, he reminds us of js park”
– That is a really lazy comparison.
I really don’t mind people calling me plastic, I support my team wholeheartedly and I make no secret of it, I don’t decide who is good enough or not, I leave that to the manager. Yes sometimes I express concern of certain players playing, but once the game starts, I will support them anyway, willing them on to do well
wayne says: “you know what drone strikes against cunts who want to kill us is not a bad thing”
– What the fuck has this got to do with anything!?
Norwich v United – 12 minute highlights:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxwxeb_manchester-united-v-norwich-city_sport?search_algo=2#.UTKzehwvGTw
@ OJM – rumour has it Benitez, Mancini and Brendan met late at night at a Chelsea hotel, it was agreed that drone strikes should be considered if United extend their lead beyond 12 points. The meeting fell apart on what the drone would have written on it, with Benitez wanting his full list of complaints about SAF and statement on plastic flags included while Mancini wanted a picture of Tevez and his scarf, Brendan was lobbying for negro. They agreed to meet again, can we stop it….we need Batman or…Robin….to be continued.
Great result great banter ….keep it up
One thing missing went round to a mates house to watch the game and he had plastic sausages for breakfast…miss the good old English banger …at least no horse meat in them anyway.
Versus RM, I see Christmas Tree:
DeGea
Rafael Rio Evans Evra
P. Jones Carrick Cleverley
Rooney Kagawa
RvP
all for nullify RM’s wingers
This boy Shinji wow! His second was pure genius. How calmly he slotted, dummied the defence
was extraordinary! Oozes class n confidence yet appears humble! His celebrations show it all.
Cld b our ace for tuesday! Quietly I m confident the players will turn up n we shall triumph. God bless Man United!!
Sir Alex Ferguson told the
….
reporters before the City game
that Rooney needs to score more
goals.
He scored 2 goals in that match
and went on to score 12 in next
14 games.
Sir Alex Ferguson told reporters
that he has faith in De Gea before
the Real Madrid clash. De Gea
played his best game in the
United shirt against Real and
hasn’t conceded a PL goal for 447
mins.
Sir Alex Ferguson told reporters
before the Norwich game that Kagawa
needs to improve and he’ll
improve in 2nd part of the
season. Bang, he scored a hat
trick.
Sir Alex effect
Just noticed a frightening sight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo0xpZxFq1s
During the first goal, before the ball fell in front of Kagawa, RVP tried to go for it with a high boot and then clutched his left hip in pain.
Arab commentator calls Rooney “habeeb albi” = “love of my heart”!
Arab commentator calls Rooney “habeeb albi” = “love of my heart”!
Kagawa wrote to us [in English] on his official Twitter page:
“I appreciate your great supports which gave me today’s goals!”
We appreciate your great supports too Shinji, both of them.
A sweet left foot, and a quality right to boot.
Morning Reds! Great feeling this AM!
MOTM for me was Fergie again. First half didn’t work all that well. Then Kagawa shifted into the whole and SMASH *#$$*!! CRASH $^*#@!!! BAMO #*@%$$
It was like a freekin Green Hornet Cartoon
Wayne’s goal has to be up for Goal of the week as well. Unbelieveable skill on that. Also highlights the reason that we don’t sign under 6’2 keepers at this club.
So pleased for Shinji. Looked the business second half …. well v Norwich!
Also Vidic. Think fergie new a shutout was vital and Vidic is the man. That was his 36th straight result for United! INCREADIBLE. United are also 4 straight EPL shut outs in the EPL. Top marks for De Gea and the defense!
FletchTM – great post mate! Your INK is very READABLE, it’s quite ‘INCREADIBLE’ !
Cüneyt Çakır (Turkey) is referee the CL tie according to sources in the Turkish FA.
Cakir loves his cards and his favorit color is Yellow. He sent of Gerrard in one game and is not affaid of that.
Anyone know the best UEFA site to follow for the actual refs. Seems they don’t publicize until last minute.
DreadedRed Cheers mate. What do you think about that Kagawa account? Not convinced myself. I followed it for awhile then saw some stuff that just looked wrong. Consigned it to the bin heap after that.
Not very useful to follow players accounts at United. Only Rio ever really says anything interesting. And all my mates will RT all the other stuff that comes in. Lean and mean if you know what I mean! HA!
Great day to be a red. We are cruising on WHITE GAS!
Everyone is watching Benitez and Mancini to see who is sacked first.
All is right with the world then
FletchTM – I think it’s genuine, because the news site I read it on has always been reliable.
I find them quick-on-the-uptake, especially with quotes. It’s not a football-specific site, and tends to be a little opinionated/sensational; but for an ‘offshore’ media outlet, they update United news and quotes quickly and accurately.
http://www.supersport.com/football/barclays-premier-league/teams/man-utd?view=full
It IS another GREAT day to be a red!
Benitez first, surely? He’s on borrowed time.
Just caught some of the Rooney bashing above. Rooney has had a quite 2 years, but his win percentage this year has been second to none. Plays anywhere the manager puts him. Covers every blade of grass as well. Man is is a horse for us.
You lads who care about history will also know that Rooney is creeping up on some amazing numbers as well
Wayne Rooney . . . . 8.4years at Manchester United 392 appearances, 194 goals (.49 goals per game)
George Best . . . . . 10.3years at Manchester United 470 appearances, 179 goals (.38 goals per game)
Yup, Rooney IS all that!
@Proverb said”Sir Alex Ferguson told the
reporters before the City game
that Rooney needs to score more
goals.
He scored 2 goals in that match
and went on to score 12 in next
14 games.
Sir Alex Ferguson told reporters
that he has faith in De Gea before
the Real Madrid clash. De Gea
played his best game in the
United shirt against Real and
hasn’t conceded a PL goal for 447
mins.
Sir Alex Ferguson told reporters
before the Norwich game that Kagawa
needs to improve and he’ll
improve in 2nd part of the
season. Bang, he scored a hat
trick.
Sir Alex effect……”
Well said mate.this surely has made my day.
@Fletch
Thanks for your amazing statistics.always love to read your comments mate:)
Andromeda, Cheers mate.
Rooney, Stayed at the club, Ronaldo didn’t. That says all it needs to for me. Don’t know why people bash Rooney and say in other posts that we should sing to Ronaldo.
Nuts on that says I! Rooney is our player and that makes him the on only R name I will be singing during the full 90.
Less ofcourse Ronaldo is having a nightmare outing and we want to REALLY piss him off
………. Well Rio and Rafael as well to be fair. Ha!
…….. Well Robin and Ryan as well.
Sheesh! Guess we have our share of R names!
hello everyone
another step to get our trophy back
i think 5wins will be enough
kagawa touch id sublime he is a world class player he just need to adapt to epl and play a central role
madrid game will be the most difficult game of the season
we must be on the top of our form to beat theme against barca they were perfect there counter attacking play is second to no one
sir alex should select the best possible team giggs is a true legend but i prefer him to come on in the match.jones if fit will start but i doubt he will be ready
ddg
rafa evans vida evra
young carrick tc nani
rooney
rvp
Rrrrrrrrrrr!
FletchTHEMAN
agree with you about rooney
for me he is a legand
George Best had more talent in his left testicle than Wayne Rooney has in his entire useless transfer requesting flabby body,
George Best could get the ball and leave three people absolutely for dead. Anybody left one versus one against Best was cannon fodder.
Wayne Rooney struggles to control the ball.
This Daniel88 is a self-centered cunt, and a fucking useless troll.
He starts his wind-up by describing our player as “fucking awful”, and then immediately calls us “drooling spastics” for responding to his taunts, in the very same first comment where he cast his bait. Way to out yourself as a wum, it becomes patently obvious to all that he feeds on sorrow caused.
Obviously he was expecting harsh responses, and therefore he was on a deliberate wind-up. He is a wum. A wind-up merchant whose attendance here is only to revel in any discomfort he can cause. A self-centered cunt.
His second comment starts “I notice you people aren’t big on addressing the arguments.”
All he wants is an argument, to use as a platform to hurt any true red he can lure.
He is undoubtedly a selfish, trolling wum.
http://thepeoplesperson.com/gifs-shinji-kagawas-brilliant-hat-trick-vs-norwich-city/
u are a wum dreaded. some cheek from you to criticise others for exactly what you do. and rooney aint fit to lace besties boots
red joey – do you not understand what a ‘wum’ is?
Whose shoes might you be fit to lace, I wonder.
sorry dreaded you are not a wum, you are just an average loser bully. all u seem to do is pick on people who have different opinions. i bet you wouldnt be so tough away from your wee laptop. i know that you wouldnt be fit to lace mine anyway chump
internet bully is the most pathetic kind of bully
I didn’t call people “drooling spastics” for responding to my comment but from your track record. I fail to see that its my fault that several responses to my comment none of which addressed any of the points brought up. I think calling people “wums” and “trolls” is an cheap was to dismiss an argument you cannot counter.
What here is actually wrong ?
- Wayne Rooney was fucking awful in the first half.
- His constant ability to misplace easy passes and miscontrol the ball and still be rated so highly is nothing short of sorcery. Did anybody watch the World Cup of 2010 ?.
- Any other player ( especially Nani ) after that performance in the first half would have been hauled off.
- In the biggest game this season Wayne Rooney was tasked with defending against opposition defenders.
yay
fight fight fight
DreadedRed
You’d be wise to realise that this forum is dying because people just bitch and bicker and never discuss the issues at hand which is football and more importantly United. As soon as a new person comes on here it stab the new comer in the back and kick him down so he knows his place. Along time ago this place turned from a football blog to a big boys club were the local 10-20 have taken control of this blog and decided to shout out any undesired opinion no matter the way it is put across.
Somehow the voices of these 10-20 count for the entire passion and reason that is the manchester united fan.
Its the reason why I fell out of love for football and Manchester United isnt as dear to me as it once was, because when discussing this great club we have the shittiest fans in world sport.
Daniel88′s attempts to engage in intelligent discourse is as a siren on the rocks.
There is no joy or learning to be had with devious wums.
could not agree more goat. ive been looking over this site for the past few years. this site gets worse by the day. every fucker thinks they know as much as sir alex and if you dare contest them then they will try and degrade you. absolutely pathetic. and the ones who usually slander others as trolls usually are trolls themselves
red joey
Bully for you.
@DreadedRed
Look at the comments of Goat and Red Joey.
Do you think its a coincidence they say this while at the same time I accuse you of not addressing the arguments ?.
Funny that isn’t it.
intelligent response dreaded troll
many have disagreed, but seeing kagwa yesterday I was right, he is best serving from the left, and playing the david silva role, his technique, movement, and creativity, it gives united a different dimension using kagwa just off the left, cutting inside.
red joey
You’re welcome to put your views across to me. I dont degrade people on here unless they are personally abusive. I wont make friends with you but treat you like an individual with a point to discuss. (Cant make friends as I have an anti social disorder that makes me not remember faces, names, much about previous conversations unless Im in the middle of it, dates, times or where I took my last shit – sorry dont take it personally).
The best way to get yourself “excepted” is to keep at it. Be yourself no matter how agressive or outspoken you are. The usuals will just have to put up or shut up. A year ago we had a right group of bully boy numpties in here but they all pissed off and no doubt the bully boys this time will up tail and run for the hills. That or they become civil.
@In David We Trust
Kags seemed quite effective from the left yesterday. He is a very good technical player. When playing at Dortmund did he not play in the hole behind Lewandowski? I think he was more successful at Dortmund because Dortmund presed higher up the pitch than United do and also as SAF has already mentioned the English game is more physical than the German game.
I quite like the lad Kags. He has certainly given SAF something to think about before the Real game.
@Goat Peticoat
Amen to that…!
How many times have we seen posters putting across well reasoned arguments making pertinant points? Only in return to get personal insults and called a troll just because we are not all wearing rose tinted spectacles. It’s about time somebody poster something like that.
Goat Peticoat – good day to be a red huh? Top of the league, and all that.
I’m not sure why you think this forum is dying. The readership is higher than it’s ever been, the comments section has largely lost the off-topic tendencies it had, and the quality of the articles has steadily improved.
I don’t see new people being stabbed in the back so they know their place. That was very prevalent up to about 6 months ago. The general air on RoM is welcoming and conversant.
Of course, being in the public domain, and existing in the passionate all-consuming arena of football, the blog is oft besieged by those with malicious intent. Let’s face it, if it repeatedly behaves like a wum, it likely is a wum.
Reacting to a wum’s taunts by identifying him to others, is a sensible response.
Engaging the wum to discuss his views is foolish, when there are so many intelligent, passionate reds on this forum who want to share United.
In David We Trust
Are you saying youd like to see Kagawa on the left of a 4-4-2 as an orthodox winger? left of a 4-3-3 and in which case the midfield or forward possition.?
FletchTHEMAN – Rooney has been the best bit of business the boss has ever done, remember the famous quote since 2009, value for money, rooney has been sensational since joining united. The records, the big games, his ability to give everything for the club, by far Ferguson’s greatest signing
Goat Peticoat – no not an out an out winger, but more of a floater on the left, where he interchanges with the frontline, and even get involved in the CM, but he tucks on the left. He starts on the left and moves around, it gives us more variety, we have one out an out wide player, and we have someone like kagwa, a floater, who moves about
DreadedRed
Great time to be a red if your not one of those that believes success is spending 30 million every week to be as big as City, lol. I love the way we do it and it still leaves me scratching my head how our so called cut price transfers are heads and shoulders above those at City and Chelsea and even comparable to Real Madrid. Sir Alex certainly does know his football. < understatement of the year.
In regards RoM I am still amazed at its incredibly low turn out. You may be right, it may be getting better, I have kept away on purpose only making brief cameos to put my two pennieth in.
I dont want to be rude to you my friend but you sound like a copper (policeman). You have passed judgement on people before they have had a chance to really make themselves known, based on past experiences of WUMS as you put it. If there are those that come in with malicious intent then they will surely soon go. Its a bit like when I get picked up at a bar after an altercation and the police assume because I have a football shirt on that Im to blame because I look like a football thug or hooligan. I find it hurtful, Im a cunt not a hooligan.
In David We Trust – Giggs wasn’t a bad signing either
http://www.footballfancast.com/football-blogs/why-wayne-rooneys-concern-is-simply-football
I still call giggs a product of the academy, never a buy
In David We Trust
Thats the problem isnt it. If you pick Kagawa as a left sided midfielder say then you say goodbye to playing with orthodox wingers. If we play the 4-5-1 then we are too short upfront. If we go 4-3-3 then that fits. A midfield 3 of Carrick DM and Kagawa left and Cleverly on the right. BUT that means we generally go for the three forwards. Rooney Wellbeck and RvP. That means the death of the orthodox winger. If you play the Young and Valencia then you have the same problem as the 4-5-1 and only the one recognised striker.
nicely put goat. this is before all a blog about our beloved team and thats all it should be. not a playground for ignorance and slander, its about having our own views and sharing them with others. agree with kagawa being a “floater”. he is a wee gem of a player and will play a big part in the red of manchester united for many years to come i reckon. also has anybody been keeping up with henriquez’s loan at wigan?
No folk like you joey think they know better than Fergie. I will put my mortgage on it you was slagging Carrick and Evans not long back.
Again Daniel take a look at Rooney s goals to games. Not bad considering he plays ALL over the park too. Mark my words United would be a FAR shitter team without him.
Look at cunts yesterday. ” Kagawa is poor and needs to get fit” Then proceeds to bang in a hat trick. You never have owt positive to say Daniel. First hint of United in decline and a lot of you lot would desert the club like rats on a sinking ship.
“im a cunt not a hooligan”. quote of the year lol classic
haha fuck are u king eric? why would i slag two of our best u idiot. looks like dreaded reds bum-chum has arrived to back up his little bully sweetheart. *pathetic
wish i was a real fan like you king eric. you are inspiring
wish i was a real fan like you king eric. you are inspiring
Goat Peticoat – I feel united’s best side, despite how wellgiggs hasplayed,united’s best 11 which gives us great control of the ball, and working hard is?
DDG
rafeal ferdinand evans evra
carick cleverly
valencia kagwa
rooney
RVP
We have valencia has our out an out wide player, and kagwa has a floater, I feel we do not need to play 2 out an out wide players, just one, and a more crafty player like kagwa, who can offer united different things, yes kagwa looked better in CM, but tactically he is best served on the left cutting inside, heck evra always gives us width is well
ROM is getting better and better and the articlers also show that,
I think at the moment we have a group of people that wants to discuss United and the players without insulting one another. There wil lalways be those that insult when they don’t agree, which I think is very cheap. We just have to know who are those that are sincere and those that are so called trolls.
And every new and different opinion doesn’t mean they are trolls. But of course if you come every time insulting players and the team, well that makes you crazy and delusional and NOT a troll cause we are at TOP OF THE LEAGUE BABY with these players you insult, of course4 there is always room to improve, but when you lead with 12points, I don’t know, you should be happy
or is it just me?
Anyway this is the Internet so, but we have less bullys and it’s up to us make this site good and clean.
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King Eric
Dont we all feel that we could do better than Fergie. There hasnt been a single person on here that hasnt had some opinion on who we should spend the Glazers hard earned cash on. And as for slating Carrick. Three years back he had all United fans on his back, with fans screaming we need another Roy Keane.
Its just passion, its not opinion. In the heat of the moment havent you inadvertantly not pulled out when your other half wasnt taking control of her ovaries. Yes we all have, morning after pill, coat hanger etc etc But its not your wish every time to have a bloody kid is it. Let it slide my friend, the world is a bigger shittier place with far more to be concerned about than one person coming on here slagging off our very own tsunami magnet.
WeAreUnited at 14:41
great post mate
Daniel88 Cheers son, just got back to your point. Only put up the comparison of numbers to suggest that whatever one wants to say about the “Transfer requesting c*nt”, in the end, he is our “TRC” and not anyone else’s. AND that his numbers stack up with some proper legends. Just saying that like it or not, 20 years from now, it will be Rooney topping some serious stats list at United and beating some proper legends on the way.
Finally, my point was that Ronaldo is the definition of TRC and I wouldn’t sing his name if paid money. Well I might do in spite………… or if he pulled a U-turn ala Sparky…….. but definitely NOT during the game as it would be a proper p*ss take on any proper player.
Anyway, hope we turn the virus into proper mugs. That game and the Derby are the 2 games on the current schedule that look absolutely amazing!
Goat Peticoat – SAF certainly has an eye for an acquisition. Yeah, he knows his football.
Your view that I “have passed judgement on people before they have had a chance to really make themselves known, based on past experiences of WUMS as you put it” is quite off mark.
The thing with Daniel88 is that he has been here on a wind-up more than 50 times. It starts becoming real obvious when his modus operandi is repeated on each visit. So obvious, that dozens of RoM readers have identified him as a trolling wum. I realise you haven’t been here much, and taking into account your condition, have possibly forgotten any boring ‘arguments’ you happened to witness. I don’t bother to argue with him. He has called SAF and many of our players by the filthiest of name, and always attacks United in his opening comments.
His comments are vicious attacks on our club because he structures them as such, in a deliberate wind-up. Other contributors have no difficulty in airing their discontent with our players, because they are not couching their comments in barbed bait.
One might say: “Jimmy was very poor on Saturday, he contributed nothing” – a debate ensues.
Fantastic! That’s what a forum is for.
A wum says “Jimmy’s useless! Get rid! Another crappy signing ala Bebe, SAF’s lost it!”
No debate should ensue. A selfish trolling wum has baited his hook.
@iced earth
cheers mate!
let’s get into a new discussion.
I went to read the ManUtd.com forum and a user had one of the best subjects in a while which make you really think the outcome, he goes by the name @nemanja.fikri, so if you’re here, great subject.
QUOTE: Next week can be the ‘Best Week’ or the ‘Worst Week’ for man utd fan..
The Best Week
We beat real madrid and chelsea, and man utd go through to the quater-final UCL and semi-final FA cup.
The Worst Week
We lost to real madrid and chelsea, and man utd are knock-out from two competition in just 1 week..
WeAreUnited…. We are still missing a couple of elements. We had a good group a couple of years ago, but the trolls destroyed that. Some broke off and went to other sites.
Hope you are right as I like this open formate better than many. We have conversations and start to recognize the worth of individual posters. And, we often agree to disagree. The really really negative elements are few and far between thankfully. We had some proper racists on here as well. I just ignore all that negative stuff. Who has the time! Life is too short for that. Support the Reds, love your family, all else can just float off to the sea.
In David We Trust
That formation would work against narrow teams like Chelsea or City who dont have out an out wingers but against Madrid and teams who adopt wide players we would be pulled apart. But then thats the futility of picking a best 11, there is no such thing. It depends if its home or away, the opposition, the fixture schedule, fitness and injuries and form etc etc.
But for sake of argument I think our best team is generally.
DDG
Smalling Vidic Evans Evra
Carrick
Valencia Kagawa
RvP Rooney Wellbeck.
I feel the tall FB in Smalling gives us the heads up in games when we face a bigger team afterall our midfield doesnt generally offer big bodies (Kagawa, Cleverley, Anderson, Scholes, Nani, Young etc all these are no bloody use at set pieces). I realise Rafael is good but Id like to see him swap and change with Valencia and give him a slightly more forward role. I chose both EVans and Vidic because I chose Smalling. When defending Valencia would normally drop back and Smalling come in more centrally (Smalling is naturally a right sided CB). Both Vidic and EVans are naturally left sided CBs and it feels more natural for them to both shift slightly to the left and Evra is a bloody liability when defending. Kagawa and Valencia are not orthodox wide men but can do a job supporting the fullback or forwards on the wing. So distancing ourselves from the orthodox wingers with over lapping fullback to a system where there is more width as three players can get the ball, the fullback, Kagawa or Valencia or the left or right forward in RvP or Wellbeck. When Kagaw and Valencia help it leavse a gap for Rooney to exploit and come and collect the ball.
so in defending we look like
DDG
Valencia Smalling Vidic Evans Evra
Carrick Kagawa
Rooney Wellbeck
RvP
Going forward we look like
DDG
Vidic Evans
Smalling Carrick Evra
Valencia Kagawa Wellbeck
Rooney
RvP
red joey is such a hypocrite!
He says: “haha fuck are u king eric? u idiot. looks like dreaded reds bum-chum has arrived to back up his little bully sweetheart. *pathetic”
Meanwhile red joey’s FIRST comment on this thread was submitted 6 minutes after I addressed Daniel88′s trolling nature. He said “u are a wum dreaded. some cheek from you to criticise others for exactly what you do. and rooney aint fit to lace besties boots.”
Fucking hypocrite.
DreadedRed
Point taken and no offence meant. I have kept away and so dont know the full story. Appologies.
@FletchTHEMAN
great great post, on point mate and cheers also!
Like I said I followed this blog for 2 and I liked thee posts. so and then started commenting and now I fought my way here and proved that United is where I stand and maybe some have recognised that, hopefully! BUT
At the time there were many, that didn’t allow you to say a single word without calling you a plastic, and now I think it’s a more open place + some delusionals and I repeat NOT trolls, but, I don’t count them, cause I concentrate on commenting as you said those worth of individuals .
This howewer doesn’t mean that every new poster should be called a troll, just because of his views, because if we do that, we will never go forward and let people come in into the blog. That’s not fair for anyone new, that wants to become part of United. We should let them discuss, and if we notice that they are only dissing our players and team EVERT FREAKING time, well that means they have another agenda.
Until then, let’s let peopel come in and pick those worthy individuals and respond tho them, because every one of us is sometimes guilty of being harsh towards the team, when our main purpose is to get United stronger and the family of supporters!
I hope it made ssense.
WeAreUnited
even if we don t go through to the quater-final UCL and semi-final FA cup.it will not be a disaster
the top priorite in epl trophy. but if we go through we will have a real chance of winning the treble
i can t see anyone ahead of us in the ucl.maybe bayern is a strong team but we can beat theme
2wins at home and we can make history
FletchTHEMAN
Those that went to the other sites were using this place as a bully boy forum where a simple blue joke or slightly racial joke (meant as a joke and absolutely not racist) was blown out of proportion and the argument kept on for weeks and months. It was shite with them here.
And as for proper racists I think that is slightly exagerated. There isnt anyone on here Ive read that has shown anything other than an ill timed jest (nothing worse than you would hear on comedy central) or general ribbing of nations. Real racism is a bit tougher than that and by calling what we have as proper racism is trivialising real issues not that dissimilar to the press and FA with whats happened on the pitch in the past year.
You want to know real racism then ask yourself how much of what you own is from the sweat shops of China, ask yourselfs how much you give to african charities, has your wife got any diamonds. Now thats racism.
WeAreUnited. As to your point about the importance of this week, we have been talking about it for some time. Mostly 2 weeks back when we progressed to the second round. It is just that the Madrid game has been sucking all the air out of the universe for the past week.
Big week for the club no doubt. But this club has had these weeks in droves. Biggest was in ’99 for me. That final 10days was the biggest heart attack-euphoria cycle you could imagine. It was just the last 2 years, getting knocked out of FA and CL so early that makes it feel like a new thing. But if you go on back there were many late season weeks like this. All are going to be big games when you get this late into competitions.
But this is the history of this club, our players, and our fans. THIS IS what we do.
… more hypocrisy from red joey.
Four minutes after Goat said “… this forum is dying because people just bitch and bicker and never discuss the issues at hand which is football and more importantly United”, red joey said “could not agree more goat.”
Meanwhile red joey has been bitching and bickering all thread. Hypocrite.
@iced earth
Definitely, the top priority is regaining the title back, no matter how, just get that honey back! haha
It’s just that, in a week, things can go from treble to 1 trophy, and it sounds so harsh when the truth is
,that we have fought so badly in the FA-cup that I want the FA-cup also, I don’t want to lose to Chelski again, like we did in the carling-cup, it still pisses me off, we played so well that evening. Juts want to scream!!!!
CL is maybe the trophy that wouldn’t mind to lose, but damn, we have beat Madrid and get Cristiano back! yes I said it
haha
ONE WEEK and everything can change. Football. Bloody hell
DreadedRed
I think he felt his back was against the wall and he wasnt making any way in any discussion he put forth. I came along tried to create peace and he used it as support.
Lets just drop it, does it really matter?
@FLETCH
exaclty, when this heart-attack weeks will end with us? I HOPE NEVER, because this is why we live, I hated when we lost to Munchen that year, aaaaaaaa
and as for the 99 season, mate, can’t even describe it.
I put the topic on, because as you said, again JUST one week that will change everything into good or bad, in the sense of it. Can’t wait for it. I have been prepared for this over a decade haha, BRING IT and
BELIEVE½
No offense taken at all, Goat. Please feel free to express as you did. You are an asset to this gathering. And there’s plenty of top quality contributors, so I hope your distaste for the unnecessary off-topic behavior is overwhelmed by the excellent debates you participate in with others.
Goat, you right! It doesn’t matter at all. Consider it dropped.
Goat, Well said. Probably all true. I just recall the posts that got a couple lads bounced. But fair point that it is bloody hard to pic out from posts of a few dozen words what a lad really is about. Also we get folks popping in all the time who follow other teams. Sometimes, regular posters have a go at them. Many seem decent enough after you here them out. Sad truth is that 20-200 characters is a bloody injustice to any discussion.
@ King Eric
I used to slag off Carrick and Evans because they weren’t playing well !!!. Its a simple situation you play well you get praise and you play poor you get abuse. I have been critical of Kagawa thus far too because he has under performed. As far as me never having something positive to say you are just demonstrably wrong look at my first comment on this thread at 21:15.
I dont see from this exchange how you are have not been wrong on everything.
@FletchTheMan
Yeah. I accept that Rooney will have some serious numbers to put up in the final reckoning. I just dont fucking like him. It all stems from him being nowhere near as good as people and Wayne himself seems to think. The arrival of RVP has shown him up for what he is.
My “trolling nature” … well not one of you have defeated a point I have made some of you (DreadedRed) have not even tried.
Then some of you cunts have to cheek to imply people aren’t real fans. I am willing to bet good money that the pricks that say that haven’t been near Manchester or OT in their worthless fucking lives. I have. I am a bigger fan than you glory hunter plastics. I have been to home and away matches, fights with riot police in Rome and CL finals in Moscow. Fuck you.
Talk about the arguments I make. Cowards.
WeAreUnited
Isnt it the heart attack weeks that push us to the next level. The year of 99 had such weeks where we seemed to rise to the challenge and get better with every passing game untill essentially we built up such a momentum that we were unstoppable. Yeah but saying that I remember quite a few years where the press would be saying quadriple one week, then the following the treble and within a matter of days we were only in the league. Its these weeks I enjoy the most, more so than the final game to win the league. We win both this week and we should be favourites for the league (almost a done deal anyway) the FA cup and favourites or joint favourites at worst for the champions league. My heart pumps so bloody hard that my blood feels and flows like water with anti freeze. Fucking love it.
Joey. Who am I? Just a United fan who has been on here from day one. I apologise in that case then if you haven’t slagged those off. It’s just shit loads did a year or two back and are now hanging out their arse. People at OT used to groan everytime Carrick got the ball. Now folk realise just how good he is and frankly the bandwagon is laughable.
Alright Goat you well? As you know I have always liked your humour.
Folk don’t have a problem with criticism it’s just when cunts don’t even back it up. Like my example of Kagawa yesterday. Few on his back then he bangs in a hat trick. We have even had “fans” on here saying they think it’s time Fergie fucked off and even hoped he would collapse on touchline. I could name them but won’t. For someone who has smoked weed for 23 years I have a pretty good memory.
Not wanting Rooney in the team is fine, but not accepting that he has been integral to our success (and failure) is ridiculous. Has he lived up to every man’s expectations? Who does?
He has definitely been a tremendous signing. For the last ten years there has been hardly a manager in England whose first draft pick would not have been Rooney.
@Goat yeah these are the moments we live one, already 13 comebacks and now this heart-attack week, and when we go through both, YES, I repeat, WHEN we got through, there will be more of these weeks, but that’s why I love this team, it’s the fighting spirit that got me fall in love with United.
Never say die attitude and, that when it seems to be the worst, it probably is the best for us
CMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! bring it MADRID!
@DreadedRed
I remember me having a firece conversatin witt NINJATHEsomething, and put some stats about Rooney producing when it matters, and after that Rooney scored 2 goals against City and WE NEVER EVEER EVER saw NINJA here again
I will pick up that comment I made and put evidence abotu Rooney being the talismnan
well i can’t bloody wait for this tuesday…
however its too soon to talk about even having a remote chance for the treble.
personally i would be happy with a domestic double..
for madrid, the most important thing is to prevent counter attacks, hence we need to use the ball well and make sure each attacking move leads to something before being broken up/cleared..
we need a player like park ji sung who can run all day long.. i sure hope phil jones makes it..
i would go with the following line up
ddg
rafa vidic/rio evans evra
jones/cleverly carrick
nani rooney kagawa
rvp..
i chose nani over valencia because of the spark and invention that he provides,
also kagawa rooney cleverly/jones are capable of harrowing the opposition and also get back to prevent a fast counter.. we could probably replace nani with young, however nani is more effective on the right than young and also better at playing triangles/switching with rooney and kagawa..
Daniel88
Let it go fella. You have to understand that peoples backs are up, yours included, so no one will back down. There is no one person who is solely right so no grounds on which to assume liability for the argument. Its best to sweep it under the carpet, reboot and start a fresh. Anything else will only continue the argument and no one gains from that not even yourself.
We all have our opinions and mine are more controversial than most. I too despise Rooney. I dont hold King Erics views that we would be a worse club without him as I would presume we would use what money we get for him to rebuild the way we play with a couple of signings. Not to replace the man but replace the system. I do agree at this present time to just dump Rooney would be suicide as he has done a job BUT IM not one to believe that success will only come if Rooneys in the team. City didnt have him last year, Barca never had him, nor did Madrid last year. He is a member of a squad, cerainly not invincible and certainly not immune to criticism and being dropped.
Daniel. Ok then pal will meet for a pint Tuesday night yeah? I usually just go Platts. Not keen but it’s on way.
Alpha RS. Alright pal. No I don’t think those that make decent pertinent points do get shouted down. Just the wankers that piss and whinge about everything! Like that idiot yesterday who said we should accept 20 million for Rooney!
rooney is bloody unlucky. first he had to contend being compared and slated by using tevez/ronaldo.
now he has to contend with van persie…
he gives it his all for the team, am sure he would turn up and play left back if necessary..
the problem with fans is that everyone expects players to dribble past a dozen, dink the goal keeper and score in every single match…
all players are not the same, consistency wise or style of play wise..
rooney has been one of the most important players for united since about 2006 now… so the argument of him not being world class is bloody stupid.
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Well I dont think Jones even if fit would play anyway,his use against Madrid is over a destroyer is not required for the return leg.Nani over Valencia for this game Never to puny and I dont get this spark and invention he apparently has.He seems to have kept it hidden for a few years imo.
King Eric
Through the haze that is my mind – not drug enduced more the pitty – I remember many a great chat with you. Hows the boy, is macca pacca still the character of choice or has the boy moved on. Thankfully mine has, he makes a cameo but he doesnt stand a bloody chance against Sweep. And I bloody love sweep.
Fans that want to see Sir Alex colapse on the touchline need their fucking heads examined. Admittedly I do to but in a completely different context. I believe he will peg it in the hotseat because he will never leave the job. For him he is Manchester United and to give that up is as fundamental as giving up breathing or the ability to turn on the box and watch match of the day. I dont want him to die like some fans but I would be honoured if he died on the battlefield for us. – never giving up – never relenting.
A sad day when that happens and not one that Im looking forward to. I’d morn him more than I would my own father.
I found my comment about Rooney and what made NINJATHETROLl leave this this place and after Rooney scored his 2 goals against City. and YES he’s not at his best, but the lad scored 1 and assisted 2 in his bad day haha.
Here you go
2012/2013 28 Games: 24 Starts and 4 Sub: 14 Goals and 12 Assists -> Total 26 Points
2011/2012, 16 goals and 13assists. Only 39 games. That’s 29points in hockey.
2goals against City FACUP, 2goals Liverpool, 2goals Tottenham, 3 goals Chelsea, a hattrick against Arsenal, can’t say anything about CL, cause as a team we were really bad, but he did score 5 goals in europe. All are big games.
Season 2010/2011 34goals and 5assists -> 42games -> 39points in hockey.
CL Final against Barca, semi-final against Schalke a goal, quarter-finals against Chelski CL a goal, so in the way to the CL final, Rooney helped us and scored 3 goals.
In the league scored against Chelski 1goal, FACUP Arsenal, ManCity the bicycle kick? DO you remember Shinji?
Season 2009/2010 33goals and 6assist -> 42 games -> 39points in hockey. Got injured against Bayern.
CL: Semi-final against Bayern 1 goal, Quarter-finals 4 goals against the STRONG AC Milan. Without Rooney, we couldn’t manage to go into the final. Though we fought well, but we needed him.
League: 1 goal against Liverpool, 2 goals against Arsenal, Tottenham 1 goal, ManCity 1goal.
In this particular season, he won games for us and scored important goals that are in real life, not only in CL, those goals got us points. ALso he contributed like you can see in CL, but got injured.
As a striker he has done his job, you can see that, when he has played as a second striker or in a different role, the assists are higher, when he’s been a lonestriker his goalrating has been amazing.
So, not saying he is doing extremely well, but great players rise their games when matters and Rooney has hit 11goals in his last 12 and he’s not even our main striker.
peace.
Anyway got to cut down a tree, I may be back later. Laterz and peace.
Goat. Good thanks mate. Still likes macca Pakka but rapidly losing interest. He seems to like Rastamouse now!! Laters fella.
WeAreUnited – I think his name was Shitzu Jujitsu, good riddance indeed.
@DreadRed
haha SHITZU will be missed
anyway, have a good discussion guys, later!
gotta say goat thanks a lot for trying to be civilised and respect others views i really appreciate kt.
dreaded red the only reason i commented is to challenge u to stop bullying people on here. like i say i always come on here and never comment because jerk offs like you slander anybody with differing views. go fuck yourself i dont need your approval
king eric no problem i hate all the carrick/evans haters too
this blog is getting ridiculous i mean cant we all have opinions for fuck sake. dreaded once again go fuck yourself
red joey – I actually don’t slander anybody because of differing views.
Calling our player vile names is not a ‘differing view’, and is in fact the very slander that you speak of. If you have a dictionary, I suggest you look up ‘hypocrisy’
if u have a dictionary i suggest u look up ” dreaded red you are a fucking spastic with no clue about football so you just pick on others who you dont agree with or that are not in your little group of blog friends” you really are such a pathetic turd that i really am wasting my time even communicating with you as its pointless. you are a batch of sperm that should have ran down your mothers leg
dreaded red survived by crawling out of the abortion bucket
if you want to be the big man bully dreaded red go ahead! just realise that i will torture your fucking head if u are you plank. now forget about this childishness and go back to raping children
red joey – put the mirror down, it’s an ugly sight.
enough is enough
your picture doesnt show up in my mirror faggot face
Raping children? Abortion buckets? Torture my head? Fucking spastic? Pathetic turd?
Slander?
Hypocrisy.
Daniel88 is just a proper troll there’s no reason in trying to protect him, the fucker will pop up ranting at our players once his balls gets hot
aye but hes not the first “troll” is he!!?
wow looks like you’ve got me there dreaded with your superior psychology and lack of ability to respond to criticism. hahaha im loving how retarded you actually are. i bet that you’re a fully grown man too which is much worse haha tit
thats enough now dreaded you’re busting my ribs with laughter here cant take much more
thats enough now dreaded you’re busting my ribs with laughter here cant take much more
@JT1zzle shitting @themichaelowen on twatter jeez this trolls have no limits
@ All – Dreaded Red is NOT a United fan, he is a shit stirrer who sucks up to some naive people who are easily flattered and abuses others, in this way he plays with peoples egos and many are foolish and engage him. He was formerly @ sm*artalex @ Al*ertRoss – who Scott BANNED from this site, if you put in those user names your post won’t come up. He a SCUM PSYCO has put more people off this blog than everyone else combined and was at the heart of what @ Goat describes as the period where a gang of bitch bullboys tried to dictate to everyone. For a while I got fed up and did not even bother coming on here.
That said, in the last few months the quality of posts and comments on this blog has improved significantly and I think it is getting back to what it should be. A year or so ago it was just a bunch of people talking off topic shit to each other and abusing everyone else but Scott got rid of most of those scumbags except dreaded WUM who has stuck his new ugly head up. Either up peoples asses or in peoples faces.
That is not so,Dreaded Red is certainly an United fan and has been on this site for many years.And he has had disputes with other fans ,had a few myself what’s so unusual about that it’s a blog for fucks sake.
Hahaha, United 15 points up.
If City don’t win away to Villa tomorrow they will be in a dog fight with Spurs for 2nd place with only 2-3 points of separation.
City have to play solid opposition away in the final 11. They have Everton, Us, and Spurs away in the run in. But United and Spurs away will be cup ties make no mistake! They also play a couple sides in relegation fights at the bottom. City might not made 2nd if they don’t watch themselves.
Parry I agree AGAIN. Getting too often this!! Dreaded is a United fan. The stink kicked off with Cedars etc getting pissed off with dual posters so they formed a “breakaway” blog. I still keep in touch with James21?
, mike42 and Deano aka giggs12 Gerrard 0 and meet them at footy. I miss those lads and balaji, Willie etc. It did get a bit daft though with all kinds of topics apart from United.
Yes NBI the quality of Scotts threads has been top drawer of late.
King Eric.
Hah yeah but no doubt one of us will get on the others tits at some point in the future and it will be hammer and tongs.You’ve brought up some names from my own arguementative past there but all United fans.Tuesday will be my first game since the Schalke game almost two years ago when I had my accident.Still fucked leg but I aint missing this one pain or no pain.
Parryheid. Ha yeah probably so pal. To be honest we have never really had a proper go at each other, just odd disagreements here and there! Glad to hear you’re making game. Cannot wait. Full day off work so a nice lie in.
Thanks for the quality references lads!