VIDEO: Rooney and Welbeck’s Goals vs San Marino

October 13, 2012 111 Comments

Author: Scott Filed Under Danny Welbeck, International, Video, Wayne Rooney

111 Comments

October 13, 2012 at 12:49
wayne says:
Tom going to get a pay rise,this lad has gone about things the right way in his career happy for him and as KE predicted a few years ago beginning to look like the real deal

http://www.caughtoffside.com/2012/10/13/man-united-midfielder-tom-cleverley-set-for-bumper-pay-increase-following-solid-displays/?
October 13, 2012 at 13:11
Corea says:
That awful international break, weekend with no distraction whatsoever.
One week and we will have couple of normal months..
oh, i forgot, we have November fixtures to make things worse.
October 13, 2012 at 14:23
goatinaunitedshirt says:
Im going to bleat on about this untill someone listens. Where are all the regulars, really only 5 posts the past two hours for a blog of th ebiggest football club in the world with an estimated 650 million fans.
It would be like Mrs Johnson being the only one who goes out to vote in the US election and the state of Florida deems her poling card to be miss punched.
If people dont like me and want me to leave I will be more than happy to fall on my sword and let the old swarm back if thats the problem. I would be happier knowing StR’s efforts are of use and that Manchester United fan forum returns to strength than me stay here and have conversations with my fucking self.
This is truely terrible.
P.S The bloody RoM fantasy football league is also fucking boring for a second consecutive year. Ive loved football all my life but RoM is the only place that has turned my back on the game. Why is that?
October 13, 2012 at 14:26
goatinaunitedshirt says:
P.S
Please could someone give me some parting advice to any other football chat forum out there that I could join, hell a scouser one would be better than this half the time. Im not privy to word of mouth as I dont live in England and dont have a vast array of friends who can tip me on sites worth visiting and the like. Any links would be welcome. Sorry StR
October 13, 2012 at 14:37
Zibbie says:
Not you at all Goat!!!

I 8 years ago learned to go on line find football sites to learn more. I have seen now 3 different times a good site go bad. People develop personal ownership to public forums. Like road rage , you are in your car and think your at home. On a blog people are in their home and strike out! And it all morphs and for the most part blows the fuck up.
You are loved by Tony Bee and liked and revered by many. Even I one you have done battle with. We talked it out and like real men, done dusted,next!

Your all good. To many multi users and personal attacks for so many!!!
I wore as you are weeks ago a sad change in RoM!!!!!!!
October 13, 2012 at 14:40
Mash says:
Goat, try footytube, i think you’ll like it.
October 13, 2012 at 15:02
samuel - united WE stand says:
The goal from welbeck typifies his quality. I’ve always declared how technically gifted he is, without imagination and skill you can’t pull those things off. His all round game is getting better and better, if he adds that crucial composure into his game then he’ll bag more goals. He faces a real battle for games this season though. As for rooney, well clearly showing signs that dropping deeper for united has not taken away his goal scoring touch.
October 13, 2012 at 15:08
samuel - united WE stand says:
Goat – sorry, it must mean people actually have a life and won’t spend their entire moments on a blog or on the net. Shit happens
October 13, 2012 at 15:08
goatinaunitedshirt says:
Mash will do fella, cheers for the heads up
October 13, 2012 at 15:12
goatinaunitedshirt says:
samuel
I can respect that point of view but we live in a world that is round and there is always someone who is relaxing in front of the computer instead of working for some spotty tosspot or buying the latest hand bag from Hennes and Mauritz on their day off. I cant see how its reasonable that 6 or 7 posters make all the noise for 650 million. Going to OT sometimes you would think that but my mouth is full of cucumber (not prawn) sandwiches so I dont say anything – dont speak with your mouth full Timmy – swipe!
October 13, 2012 at 15:16
goatinaunitedshirt says:
Zibbie
One gets paranoid. I took a year out come back and had a few hoo has! Fully understandable the reaction of the returning rapist, lol. And then two weeks later a huge group just bugger off and now StRs hits are down, what to 20% of what they were. It could just be coincidence like my finger prints on that knife or my seaman in that body they found in the woods but sometimes you have to wonder or point the finger.
P.S. For all you out there that was a joke, I havent ever raped anyone as No is the new Yes and no ones ever said yes to me, understandably. And as for the knife I was holding it for a friend
October 13, 2012 at 15:19
goatinaunitedshirt says:
Mash
Top story on footytube, Mr and Mrs Rooney expected second tube.
Prostitutes of Manchester lube up – its gunna be a busy month or two
October 13, 2012 at 15:32
Pal Ghai says:
Hi Zibbie.Always love your posts about rooney.Spot on
October 13, 2012 at 15:41
slim says:
Goat

It’s been dire mate. Maybe the calls for “only footy talk or piss off” has tuned ROM into a bit of a grave yard. I’ll be honest. I’m praying the team plays beyond our our wildest dreams. That could get some regulars back. That and the issues STR and the natives have going on doesn’t make things any better. Hopefully we get new posters posting without the intent of winding people up
October 13, 2012 at 15:44
denton davey says:
any injuries ?

Apart from that, who cares about international footie ?

goat, this is a blog for natters (like me) who are fans of MUFC, not Ingerland or any other country.
October 13, 2012 at 15:45
FletchTHEMAN says:
Great goals and a United orchestrated win… all the way. Cleverley was the mastermind all game long and now has the record for most passes in a game in an enland shirt. What a fantastic achievement! Tom was also credited for 2 assists.
Thought he was lambasted again, Michael Carrick did a bang up job at the back. The San Marino game plan didn’t really require his services but he controlled everything from the center of the park.
Absolute disgrace that this was Michaels first England game at Wembley!

As to the goals, the Rooney penalty seems to be Rooney’s first pen for england. This makes him the only english player in the top scorers not to have benefitted from the spot. Hope that changes. Imagine he would be north of 40 goals if he had the pen duties for past 5 years..
Sort of tells you how much air Fat Frank sucks out of the younger players.

That said, just glad there were no injuries.
October 13, 2012 at 15:53
denton davey says:
“Sydney FC striker Alessandro del Piero says he rejected an approach from Liverpool out of respect for victims of the 1985 Heysel disaster.

A 10-year-old Juve fan at the time of the tragedy, Del Piero left the club after 19 years at the end of last season before joining Sydney on a free transfer, but not before Liverpool made a late offer.

But Del Piero said: “I thought about what happened at Heysel.

“Juve and Liverpool have worked hard to mend their relationship, but for a lot of people it’s something that can never be forgotten.”

GOTTA LOVE IT !
October 13, 2012 at 15:54
goatinaunitedshirt says:
slim
Shame so few know anything about football then? Im not saying people with a differing opinion to my own are wrong (of course they are but Im not allowed to say so) but there are those that believe throwing 25million Newcastles way so we can have stroppy knickers Tiote stuffing up our sweet passing midfield will put us at the top of the table. I cant subscribe to that, is that really football, is it the content or the quality. The same goes for personal chatter. If it is random outbursts of a tourettes sufferer (no dig intended lol) then maybe that is undesired but generally it has been pretty good. I mean this is a non football related post and it has some meaning to it.
Oh fuck it I dont know, Im tired in the head and am just upset that aquintances have disapeared and everything is getting old hat and dying. Has StR got issues with the “natives”? StR is hardly ever on here anymore, he was a few years ago I remember but not much now.
October 13, 2012 at 15:54
denton davey says:
The central defensive pairing – Cahill and Jagielka – almost conspired to let San Marino have a shot on goal.

I guess that Woy still has “football reasons” for omitting Rio, eh ?
October 13, 2012 at 15:58
goatinaunitedshirt says:
denton davey
“goat, this is a blog for natters (like me) who are fans of MUFC, not Ingerland or any other country.”

Did I mention international football. Probably did but that wasnt my point. Just wondered where everyone has gone and when someone is going to clear up the tumbleweed.
October 13, 2012 at 16:10
wayne says:
goat you know 20 or 30 lads left for ND58,i’m not a member but that site doesn’t get a huge traffic, ave thread there gets less than 20 responses
It’s a international break and England just beat a bunch of amateurs what the fuck is there to talk about
October 13, 2012 at 16:14
goatinaunitedshirt says:
denton
Im a Rio fan like the next man, Ive sung his praises for years and given the choice would take him over Vidic any day of the week. (no disrespect to Vidic) but time is as it is and Rios time is coming to an end. He has back issues and even if he would like to play on – who wouldnt especially as extras in the way of cash comes from sponsors that like to see their players play international matches – but he will only remain effective if he does what all decent players do around this age and that is to walk away gracefully and concentrate on club football. I love what Rio has done for England, Terry wouldnt have been half the player without him but thats life. It ends too soon.
October 13, 2012 at 16:21
goatinaunitedshirt says:
wayne
Ive noticed the numbers drop off even during football week. Come match day the place comes alive even if it is zombie-esque in its content but between match days RoM isnt half as lively as it once was. We dont have to talk international football there is plenty about United to talk about. Like for instance. Are we going with 4-3-3 as our formation going forward. A young Ryan Giggs, Kanchelskis, a younger Nani, a Lee Sharpe and a Danny Wallace, Moose Blomquist etc were all wingers who I would hate in the middle of the park or getting closer to the middle of the park but Valencia plays a central role internationally and can pass in tight areas. Nani is becoming wiser, not bigger but cleverer and looks to me more like one of three strikers than a winger of old. Young can play either flank, willing to tackle back and play centrally. Giggs has matured to move into the pitch more. Is it the end of pure wingers at United. Is it a design to give us the three in midfield we’ve always wanted without playing just the loan striker. Why has it taken british football so long to understand this?
October 13, 2012 at 16:27
goatinaunitedshirt says:
wayne
I knew 20 or 30 lads left but I dont understand the reason why?
October 13, 2012 at 16:29
Zibbie says:
Goat we all know she was already dead by the time you left your DNA behind!
October 13, 2012 at 16:30
Pal Ghai says:
Keep strong lads.Trust me this is the place to be.Anyone who envys ND58 had better popped there and have a look.Same old same old stuff.Stay strong here dont look anywhere else for fuck sake.Kinda reminds me the fergie quote about ambition gate’Sometimes you look at a cow in the field and think’yes glad you all get where im coming from
October 13, 2012 at 16:40
FletchTHEMAN says:
Denton, No injuries reported for United.

I would say that Arsenal fans would rightly worry about their lad Walcott. Reported to have spent the night in hospital, but I have’t heard more. Can’t really fault the keeper as he got the ball, but really sad to risk injury to such inept competition.

Roy Keanes half time assessment was spot on:

Roy Keane: “The team they’re up against are shocking, they should have scored 5 or 6 goals.”
ITV man: “What kind of shocking Roy?”
Roy Keane: “Proper Shockin!”

Henry Winter in the telegraph when so far as to label San Marino, “more plankton than minnows”.

Theo Walcott will be wondering how, exactly, one gets poleaxed by “Plankton”.
October 13, 2012 at 16:42
goatinaunitedshirt says:
You know me too well
October 13, 2012 at 16:48
wayne says:
goat mate don’t forget some of the lads who left kept ROM running it’s pretty funny ND58 gives a running timeline Cedars has already spent 2weeks 4days 17hrs 39mins on ND58,i’ve been a ROM regular for years but not online constant and i think that’s the case with most regular posters who’s left,the dynamic has just changed.Always been the case when nothing negative is happening keeps the trolls and wum away which leads to fewer posts.
I don’t think the club will do away with wingers entirely as you’ve pointed out have players who are capable of playing both formations, interchangeability looks to be the future.I’m personally not a big fan of narrow football and love wingers but can’t argue with the performance against Newcastle without doubt Utd’s best performance in some time.I’m one who believes Nani’s days are numbered unless his form turns around big time,once Sir Alex is upset or has a player tagged as surplus to requirements normally the exit door isn’t far away.Nani had a big chance to prove his worth with Tony V and Young being injured and his form has been dire,fighting with a rookie,asking for a 40k per week pay raise only 2 yrs into a contract already been left out of the 1st team squad twice already this season,futures not looking bright at Utd for him imo
October 13, 2012 at 16:50
Zibbie says:
Hey Fletch!!! The lads look good so far!!

Clevs to double his wage!

Rafa signed for 5 years!

Wayne, I know you live in North America and I see your point with DDG, some guys just do not like going over the middle to catch a pass, a hockey player can not shy from hits. DDG almost winches as you say waves at the ball. You must own the space, with courage. Then with a slightest knock goes to ground like a diver and stays down. You can not let them see you hurt!!! These things concern me. Then he saves a ball in open play that is awesome! Send him to a local Rugby club and go through some drills to get his confidence up he will not die!!!
October 13, 2012 at 16:51
Pal Ghai says:
I understand Cedars,lad works from home.He is HR so has all the time to blog/forum.Its a shame i dont enjoy that priviledge
October 13, 2012 at 16:57
Zibbie says:
I am looking forward to see Smalling and how he looks. Has he filled out, lost some clumsy from growing so much so fast! Then some bite with Jones not far behind. Fletch in remission he has fight and bite with sharp bones, knees, elbows and spikes. With Rooney drooping deeper the MF should not get bossed around !!
October 13, 2012 at 17:02
Corea says:
Rainy dire day at my place today. It’s Saturday with no footie to enjoy.
Everything is against us but another match dau is ahead with no activity on here before the game and the next week after the game.

Someone say to me we aren’t having any internationals in November for fu**s sake!

Cheers goat.
October 13, 2012 at 17:05
Corea says:
@Zibbie – i liked Smalling when he played at RB with us.
Yeah, we also have Fletch with Fergie being so patient with him. Hope we have our midfield enforcer. Anyway we have diamond to enjoy as well!!!
October 13, 2012 at 17:06
wayne says:
goat think they were interested in forming a members only club to keep the trolls and wum out and some because they have season tickets just think there better Reds than some of us who can’t make games.
Zibbie exactly mate DDG needs to start taking heads off,while players know he’s a pussy the problem isn’t going away anytime soon has to earn the respect of other teams players,no disputing his shot stopping and distribution is top class
October 13, 2012 at 17:14
Zibbie says:
Goat Wayne is spot on, a troll free zone. I prefer a blog vs forum but they have fun and most threads are 20 to 30 as Wayne said. But last game day 2x’s as many posts as RoM. I have thick skin and enjoy a good row. I can just not read a persons post and move on. At a point most get mad, pissed, the obsess on a few you have no life, but to bother others.
October 13, 2012 at 17:19
Zibbie says:
Smalling is like most all of Man Utd players, able to play multi positions. I love Rafa, at RB, RT WING!
I always saw Smalling bulling Rio out of his 1st team place.
October 13, 2012 at 17:24
goatinaunitedshirt says:
Good to see its sparked into life a bit now. Good to see wayne, Corea, Fletch and Zibbie posting. These are the names Im talking about, dont be strangers.

wayne
I agree with you, I think Tony shares your view about Nani too even though a little more forthright. He is fucking infuriating but I try and look at it as he wont get worse. It sounds funny but we got him as a young man/boy, hes come a long way and should we dump him now then we will see him getting wiser (just like Figo and Giggs) at another club when weve put all the effort of him getting him to that possition. I like the idea of mixing things about, we aren’t Chelsea we have the option of wingers and to change the style of play 4-5-1, 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 where as Chelsea is firmly a 4-5-1 or 4-2-3-1 without real wide players. I think the 4-3-3 should be the base formation for United especially if we are going to have Rooney in the team. He seems to be the key, its all built around him. In a 4-5-1 hes fucking pathetic, he never stays as the last man and in that formation I dont even rate him as one of the top 100 players in the world. In the 4-4-2 Its ok but I feel his passing around the box isnt always the best and thats what youd expect of the stronger of the two strikers. In a 4-3-3 he has the option of dropping deep and have still two ahead of him.
October 13, 2012 at 17:26
goatinaunitedshirt says:
Corea
cheers goat – what for my friend

On the subject of internationals, how many has there been now since the first week of the season? Its getting worse despite Sir Alexs dislike of these silly breaks.
October 13, 2012 at 17:36
Zibbie says:
Rooney’s best to be behind 2, I agree!!! RvP is key a worthy Man Utd lead striker free’s him up to go to MF!!!
A triple 20 man.
20 Goals
20 assists
20 Yellow cards !! OK only 14!!!
October 13, 2012 at 17:38
Zibbie says:
Goat I always saw Rooney and Fletch in the MF mix from like now till 34!!!!!!!!
October 13, 2012 at 17:45
hurr says:
Happy birthday, Wes Brown. You were great in that semi against Barca.
October 13, 2012 at 17:57
wayne says:
Always loved big Wes it was unfortunate he got shitfaced and called Sir Alex a cunt pretty well ended his career at the club
October 13, 2012 at 18:11
goatinaunitedshirt says:
Zibbie
Rooney is a funny one. Ive never been a big fan of roaming players or those that have a free role. I always felt that should they get injured then the team all of a sudden has to find an adequate replacement at home (transfer window closed) or develop a completely new style of play with the players left fit. Ok if your Stoke or Villa happily languishing in mid table obscurity but not if you expect to be challenging. It really does seem to me that Rooney is best in that type of role. I wouldnt want Rooney fulltime in the midfield as that would be a massive waste of talent but at the same time hes too indiciplined to stay forward and wait for the ball. It does seem that Rooney = the end of Uniteds old wing play. Not neccesarily a bad thing either. But I am very happy with a Rooney vPersie Wellbeck 3 at the top. Is helped no end by the fact Wellbeck is so selfless and works his socks off. Would like to see vPersie get involved more as to me it still looks like he thinks (which he has) made a step up and a tad unsure about whether hes good enough. He looks start struck at times.
October 13, 2012 at 18:30
goatinaunitedshirt says:
wayne
I think that was an excuse fans have used to understand Wes leaving the club. I cant believe for a minute that calling Sir Alex a cunt would get you shown the door. Sir Alex is a thicker skinned gentleman than that and players have done worse to him before that. One in Aberdeen punched him (atleast I think he was punched), Scholes always tried to hit him with a screamer during training when he was unawares.
I think it was just a case, he was never fit and therefore couldnt be trusted to form a No1 paring partnership. He had done his apprenticeship and he was too good to spend most of his career on the bench, same with John Oshea. It was time to bring in youngsters and have them sit whilst the number 1 paring plays the majority of the matches. However through a twist of fate both would have been useful to us now.
October 13, 2012 at 18:50
samuel - united WE stand says:
I don’t get the issue, it’s a blog and if people have the time then they’ll post. Regulars this and regulars that, if you find it dull then post something decent to get it moving. No time for nostalgic reminiscing of the “good old days on rom”.
October 13, 2012 at 18:57
parryheid says:
samuel-united We stand.

True that but ther’s still a place for dreams.My own favourite was to be on the top of the pops set with Marc Bolan playing Who likes to Boogie and me in the middle of Pans People,great dream which sadly never happened.
October 13, 2012 at 18:59
samuel - united WE stand says:
Denton – woy could face the consequences of leaving rio out when they face poland at warsaw. Rio has had to adapt his game but he is still a top class centre back and added with his experience, i’m only left baffled as to why he’s left out but i guess the terry scandal has something to do with that, subsequently highlighting the shambles that’s the football association. I’m not sure rio can handle numerous games these days anyway, needs that break, it could benefit his career and united in the long run.
October 13, 2012 at 19:16
samuel - united WE stand says:
Nice to know smalling is returning back, a big boost i tell you. He’s potentially a top class defender, he has everything in his game to be the first choice. Hopefully he gets more fortune in terms of staying fit.

In terms of jones, hope he returns soon but he’s still some way off in terms of being trusted at centre back, rafael is first choice right back and i don’t see him as a midfielder. His dilemma will be nailing down a starting place in one position. Centre half is his best bet and to do that, i hope he’s been learning the trade off more experienced players in that position. I don’t want him turning into a jack of all trade and master of none..
October 13, 2012 at 19:23
Gigg's magic left foot says:
@Pal Ghai,16:30

Seriously, mate. Are you kidding? You were cutting and pasting posts from ND58 over here and claiming them as your own, and got caught red-handed. So, which one is it? Moron…
October 13, 2012 at 19:32
denton davey says:
Samuel @ 18:59: ” i’m only left baffled as to why he’s left out but i guess the terry scandal has something to do with that, subsequently highlighting the shambles that’s the football association.”

My “guess” is that EBJT is reckoning on the FA coming on their knees saying “pretty please” so he can come back as the new-sherrif-in-town.

Woy has made a rod for his own back with his treatment of Rio – that lame excuse (“footballing reasons”) for calling on Martin Kelly (a part-timer for an 8th place club, no less) was just pathetic. If I were Rio – and, of course, I’m not – I’d just get on with my club career, for the club that pays my wages and treats me with respect.

Rio cannot expect to be a regular, first-choice player any more – his niggling injuries, his declining foot-speed AND the challenge coming from Evans and BigManSmalling must mean that when/if CaptainVidic is match-fit that SAF will rotate all four. Maybe he’ll go with Rio in “big games” but maybe not. IF Nemanja, Jonny, Chris, and MrJones are all match-fit then I reckon that Rio’s days as an “automatic choice” are numbered (and it will be a very small number, too).

goat @ 17:24: ” I think the 4-3-3 should be the base formation for United especially if we are going to have Rooney in the team.”

I’m on record as being no fan of “formations” since even that 4-3-3 “base formation” will actually work out differently depending on which guys are in the “midfield 3″ and which ones are selected for the “front 3″.
With TheWayneBoy as the key player – I’m with Zibbie on that ! – then the others will be selected to play around him. The only certainty, it seems to me, is that there’s going to be less dependence on old-fashioned “traditional wing play” and much more emphasis on interchanging, what I like to call the “whirligig” which worked a treat in 2008 and should do so again with RVP and KagawaBunga.
October 13, 2012 at 19:32
Proverb says:
Rooney regrets engLands mistakes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/mobile/football/19917398

Smalling nearing his return
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/mobile/football/19852677 exciting!!!!!! Little angels return

Our following games after the piss taking internationals!!! Fucking hate it
http://news.bbc.co.uk/mobile/bbc_sport/football/teams/12/fixtures/index.shtml.

Finally, our internationals boys makes us proud again!!!!
No link
But kags, swags whatever you call him, despite some confusion as to who actually scored the winning goal it has now been confirmed that kags was the one who nicked it a couple of minutes from final whistle.
Welbeck fucking “navigator walker” just stay on your feet you bustard, again scored for england but so far non for his club which is crazy, crazy, the ingerland fans will still bash you even after that double. As I said, and it happened as I said it. The fucking twats will never ever praise any united player, it was all: you could of scored more than just 5, I mean.. Really!!! Just recognise and move on…
Rooney staying true to his words, the rejuvenated shrek filling the new role to incredible effects hopefully he keep up, cause on that form he surely ganna win us trophies, tom setting a new record which’s great. And that fucking funny moment: shelvey’s introduction! Uncle loy lost right there for me… Earning england caps its sooo easy this days, that thug managed to screw the fun jus like heskey did, but good for the humour fanatics cause english jokestars will not let the chance escape unnoticed.

Chacha, what can I say…
Star always good never gone back only’s that he’s missed a lot of games to keep him moving..
Also missing the olympics might have impacted his performance in a bad way, but recovering just fine. I love the kid to bits.. Smile chicha smile!!!

Heard that flecharinos scotland were robbed last night just don’t know how
But good to hear he played 90mnts.
Van persie’s holland lost to wales but as long as he still score for united its fine by me!!!!

Evening ROM!!!!
October 13, 2012 at 19:38
denton davey says:
Samuel @ 19:16: “Centre half is his best bet and to do that, i hope he’s been learning the trade off more experienced players in that position. I don’t want him turning into a jack of all trade and master of none.”

I completely disagree – I’m not sure that MrJones can ever become a top-notch central defender or a top-notch central midfielder BUT let’s not forget that John O’Shea was one of those jack-of-all-trades kinda guys and he played more than 400 matches for UTD. I think that SAF was a touch precipitous in showing him the door – if O’Shea would have accepted a more limited role then I’d be happy to have him in the red shirt, last year AND this year.

I don’t know how old you are but the great Leeds teams of Don Revie always benefitted from Paul Madeley’s versatility; more recently, Massimo Ambrosini was a key player at ACMilan although he was never going to get into the first team if the eleven, first-choice guys were fit. AND, that’s the issue, the other eleven guys are almost NEVER all fit. I reckon that a trophy-challenging team needs at least six/seven guys who can come in and keep the ball rolling. IF that’s what MrJones can provide then he will be a very valuable member of the team.
October 13, 2012 at 19:52
samuel - united WE stand says:
Shinji Kagawa has rubbished talk of the Manchester United midfielder playing for Barcelona, Real Madrid or Paris Saint-Germain in the future.

The Japan international has scored twice in six appearances for the Red Devils after completing a switch from Borussia Dortmund to Old Trafford this summer.

The 23-year-old was in top form for Japan on Friday night, with the attacking midfielder netting the winner in a 1-0 victory over France.

And Kagawa insisted he is fully focused on establishing himself as a first-team regular at the 19-time English champions.

“I have never thought about Barcelona or Madrid,” Kagawa told L’Equipe.

“Paris are a great team that will continue to grow this season. It is also a very nice city, but I am focused 100 per cent on life in Manchester.

“You never know what the future will hold.”

He added: “I am now a Manchester United player and the fans and my team-mates expect more from me.

“Since arriving in Manchester I have had to watch my behaviour on and off the pitch. In Japan and Dortmund I didn’t have so much pressure.

“Three years ago I couldn’t have imagined evolving so quickly and Bbeing at a great club like Manchester United. It is proof that you never know what can happen.”

I’m not sure i like the sound of this, kagawa has barely adapted to united yet and he’s talking about barca and psg and saying “you never know”. some way to go yet and needs to prove himself but he does have the potential to be a top top player. good finish against france last night, showing he’s a big game player. He should be looking to emulate park in terms of staying long ar united.
October 13, 2012 at 19:52
wayne says:
goat Wes’s final season though Utd had plenty of defensive injuries but he wasn’t getting a look in which made it odd if Sir Alex wasn’t mad at him,i remember at the time a lot of talk on ROM why Wes wasn’t getting to play
October 13, 2012 at 20:08
Proverb says:
I don’t know where do they get from all the negativity towards Jones, I mean, the lad came into the scene almost as an unknown footballer and fergie bought him so early only because the other rivals were starting to show interest in him “maybe taught the kid would get some ridiculous offers and end up accepting hem” the likes of liverpool and on were all on his back.
But the kid despite all the bollocks of ‘one for the future’ he came and almost planted his position in the team on his first season
The kid was bombing up and down, breaking up plays, and it seemed to him like the reshuffle didn’t affect him at all, his positional were terrible at times but that’s bound to improve since he’s still young and improving. The only only downfall for him is the recurring injuries which seems to hunt him down even when in the dugout..
All this trying to understand why has he suddenly became a victim of criticism, what has he done to deserve this.
And there’s no prove he’ll be the next O’shea, the kid is more talented than the latter only time will tell, but sureLy jones will become a better player, the talent’s there the stamina, skills, determination all required to become a top lad is there.
Fuck it, save the lad while he recovers, all this bullshit weren’t rounding whilst he could prove week in week out.
Judge the lad on the pitch, not off it
October 13, 2012 at 20:15
wayne says:
samuel wait untill winter hits in Manchester Barca and Psg will be looking even better lol,he’s a frail lad let’s hope he adapts to the vigor’s of English Prem and cold dark Manchester winters,not every player can
October 13, 2012 at 20:23
Proverb says:
@Samuel – United WE Stand
In the first paragraph he was coming good
Until he said, only time will tell
That in its own says a lot about what next move he may take
It may take a few year but apparently he won’t retire here
IMO one who will realize he’s passed all the tests in england and threaten for a move.
Can’t blame him, its the trend this days.
October 13, 2012 at 20:25
Zibbie says:
Nice stuff.

4-3-3
4-1-2-1-2
4-1-3-2

I am with Goat with out CR the 4-5-1 with Wazza up top sucked!

4-3-2-1
October 13, 2012 at 20:27
Corea says:
goat – for some 50 or so posts i guess.
October 13, 2012 at 20:29
Zibbie says:
Wayne , I do think this winter window is the one in 5 that SAF adds quality to the side.

I have a feeling about a real strong cup run team. FA, CL

The lads who have missed out Smalling, Jones. Look at Clevs proving a point!!
October 13, 2012 at 20:33
Zibbie says:
I know he scored goals but when he went down, no other goals and fucking Inter beat BM!!
October 13, 2012 at 20:42
Proverb says:
The christmas tree formation the way for me
4-3-2-1

Rafael – smalling/rio – vidic/evans – evra/buttner

——fletcher———tom———carrick

- —-rooney——- kagawa———-

————————-van persie——-

He (cleverley) was doing very well vs newcastle, recycling the ball, really keeping the play ticking from the back, and it was from the the where we started our attacks at most with rooney dropping back collect to feed kags and kags to pick one final ball to release RVP while on the back we are steady and full backs providing the width
October 13, 2012 at 20:43
wayne says:
Zibbie still a long way to go,i was thinking about that Sir Alex took a lot of stick for not signing CM,with Tom C coming through,Fletch getting over his illness,who knows with Ando but has always had potential,looks obvious Rooney is going to play a deeper role do we need anyone else.Think it will depend on Nani’s future,what position do you think needs to be strengthened
October 13, 2012 at 20:49
Zibbie says:
Wayne have no fucking clue, just a feeling. SAF in the last 2 years went for a type, Sanchez, Nasri, Hazard and Lucas and missed. Rodriguez from Columbia?
October 13, 2012 at 20:57
Zibbie says:
Powell will be awesome. Let him grow learn and soon he will win games.
October 13, 2012 at 21:04
wayne says:
Zibbie think it will depend on circumstances,most January signings don’t have a huge immediate impact i’d forgotten about Powell who also has to be put in the mix,when everyone’s fit Utd have a very strong squad
October 13, 2012 at 21:18
Zibbie says:
Oh sure team we have with returns of injured!! Can go deep. Wazza just back SAF to match people together. The a basic strong 11 for big games!!!
October 13, 2012 at 22:27
dannysoya LOVES USAIN BOLT says:
FINALLY Chris Smalling returns.
October 13, 2012 at 22:34
Red Neck says:
Dannysoya LOVES USAIN BOLT
What’s the latest on smalling. I haven’t heard anything yet.
October 13, 2012 at 23:37
samuel - united WE stand says:
Denton – what i’m trying to say is jones has more potential to be a first choice, i would imagine he has more ambition to be more than a utility jack of all trade. O’shea might have settled for the bit part role but he wasn’t the most gifted and was never going to hold a regular place, hence why he played that role. Jones surely would aspire to be a mainstay, he hopefully can if he continues to improve.
October 13, 2012 at 23:49
samuel - united WE stand says:
Wayne – he’s japanese, they do tend to adapt to difficulties. I think he needs to get stronger and get used to the speed of the premier league. The manager has taken him off in much earlier stages of games, showing he needs time. I think psg and barca talk should be the last thing on his mind but i’m not placing hopes on him or any player, the game is filled with mercenaries. All i can say is, kagawa should take a look at park, he’s not as talented as shinji but he was fully comitted and that brought its rewards.
October 13, 2012 at 23:52
samuel - united WE stand says:
Proverb – it would be an absolute piss take if united have to go through another ronaldo type saga but hey, that’s the game for you.
October 14, 2012 at 00:25
Adam says:
I love seeing young blood, Cleverly has done well so far, but I think asking to double his wage is a bit much. I think he still has a lot to prove for demanding that..Let’s see how/if he plays and what impact he will have in Europe, and against the top 4 this season.
October 14, 2012 at 00:41
wayne says:
Adam the way i read the article he hasn’t asked for the raise club is giving it to him because of his progress
October 14, 2012 at 02:06
LoneStarRed says:
I for one am still here and check ROM everyday. Don’t post much but if I have something of value to add I shall.

Re Welbeck: A few less spectacular goals a more routine ones please.

Watching the England vs San Marino it was clear that the United players an Chamberlain were used to one touch passing and the others were not.
October 14, 2012 at 03:27
LucasUTD says:
I really don’t see what all of you guys (and Fergie) see in Welbeck.

I read an article that described Welbeck as having touch, control and technique unlike any other English striker and my insides were laughing really. All he has is pace and he’s willing to work hard.

But is that good enough for Man United? I hardly think so.

Of course, he’s only young and I really do hope he proves me wrong and becomes a great striker. But for now, he kills me everytime time he’s on the ball.
October 14, 2012 at 04:14
Ash says:
Welbeck only needs to improve his finishing other than that he has everything that a 21 year old upcoming footballer will ask for. I am very happy we signed him for a long term. Give lad more time and then you will see the results will show. We have great 4 strikers who can help us win many trophies. No need to bash them. Patience is the key to success.
October 14, 2012 at 04:25
Harish says:
Goat

Appreciate your concern about thiss blog but honestly I prefer the current state of the blog. There are 70-80 posts of which almost everyone is worth a read. Earlier there were 700-800 posts in a thread of which more than 60% were useless to read. I am not able to comment that because of the shit internet connection I have. But call me crazy for the past 1 hour or so I have been reading all the comments in previous 5-6 threads. Now I wouldn’t have done that when there were 100′s of useless comments.

And also I visited ND58 and saw people badmouthing the ROM. Now this is not correct. Its like after you leave the club you badmouth about it. I will not want those guys on ND58 to return to this blog. As much as I enjoyed cedars presence here it was shocking to see him badmouthing about this blog.

Yes it would be nice if we see some new posters posting in this blog. But have to say there are still many great posters here. I still rate this as the best blog and scott as the best writer.
Cheers
October 14, 2012 at 06:48
utd_fc says:
all this talk of ND58 got me curious to say the least. I googled it but didn’t really find anything related to United or a blog called ND58. wouldn’t mind checking it out if anyone has links

I agree with the above saying that 500-600 comments tended to get a bit much at times. since this is a blog, it’s not exactly easy to keep track of who commented on what or who replied to whom, but this place does tend to get quite dead at times. That was rarely the case with ROM a couple of months ago. And not all that was said was crap.A lot of it was interesting or fun to read just for some laughs.

I come here for all my United related news, and i check this blog everyday, and go through the comments too. If I have something to add I post, otherwise I don’t really find it very easy to hold full conversations with anyone here simply because they can be a little hard to keep up with. Still my primary United related website though
October 14, 2012 at 07:20
Imran says:
@utd.fc,
its never die 58 its a forum i think
October 14, 2012 at 08:06
Corea says:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4588471/Ryan-Tunnicliffe-nicked-drink-driving.html

Not good:(
October 14, 2012 at 08:09
Costas says:
I was going to say that one of the reasons why this site is less visited these days was Sachu and his crap, but Gigg’s magic left foot at 19:23 exposed him perfectly. It’s natural that comments will decrease when the cancer itself isn’t getting addressed.

Anyway. Nice to see Danny get off the mark. Hopefully he will do the same in a United shirt soon.
October 14, 2012 at 08:17
Ash says:
Costas

I have always rated Danny. He is far better than Carrol,Henderson,Sturridge,Walcott etc and is almost equal if not better than Ballotelli,Pedro etc. Lad is humble unlike many mercenaries and gives 100% on the field even if it doesn’t work out properly. One for the future. Once he starts scoring regularly then see his impact.
October 14, 2012 at 08:19
Ash says:
Speaking of ND58 , bothered to visit that once , biut don’t know why I was denied registration. Never bother visiting again. I prefer RoM. No hard feeling towards those ND58 guys. Good luck to my fellow indians on their blog, I am comfortable here.
October 14, 2012 at 08:32
Robbo says:
I haven’t posted on here for a while now, just like a lot of others I was put off by trolls, wum’s and dual/triple/quadruple/multi personality users.

@Imran
yes it is “Never Die 58″ and it is a forum, a bloody good one at that.

@ Harish
I don’t need to stick up for ND58 or anyone on the forum, but there are some non truths you speak. Firstly no one has an issue with ROM, the issue is with certain posters on ROM, actually one with multiple user names, who comes on ND58 and cuts and pastes from it on here. He gets bad mouthed not ROM. There a numerous people who post on ROM and ND58 and there is no issue with it. As long as the talk is about United and in a civil manner, no probs.

@Wayne
I had a dig at you a while back and called you a name. I apologise for it, but one of the reasons you did get my ‘goat’ up was at your constant and negative comments about a United player that did not deserve any crap. It was your opinion and I was out of hand to bag you for it.
The main problem I had with your posts was an attack on a fellow ROM poster and a fellow RED supporter. You and another poster bullied him and that was, I felt, out of order. He was only expressing an opinion different to yours so I do not think iy was warranted. Maybe it wasn’t my fight to fight but I couldn’t help myself. Again apologies for it.

ND58 is for United supporters to talk about their passion and love for United. We have different opinions but it never gets down to verbals only serious debate.
I do occasionally read thru ROM but I won’t post again, unless the ‘user’
October 14, 2012 at 08:36
Robbo says:
*unless the ‘user’ starts cutting and pasting again.
October 14, 2012 at 09:00
Costas says:
@Ash

Don’t know what happened with your registration mate, but I doubt it was anything personal. Maybe something went wrong at that moment.

Back to Danny. I agree that the boy is very talented. And something that gets overlooked is that he works a lot without the ball. Welbeck has faced a problem this season though. While everything lined up perfectly for him in 11-12, he’s not in a comfort zone anymore. A couple of summer arrivals plus the change in system have thrown him off his game a bit and it’s taken him a while to find his footing again. That’s why I was glad to see him score, even if it was against San Marino.

These were also Rooney’s first goals of the season. Just goes to show how valuable RVP has been since we haven’t missed Rooney’s goals this whole time.
October 14, 2012 at 09:22
Andooo says:
Morning people

Let’s talk about Nemanja, I love the guy and he has been a great servant for the club and for me he can go down as one of Fergies best pieces of business. Rumours of a 30m+ bid for him don’t seem to be going away which suggest to me maybe there is some truth in them.

He isn’t getting any younger and injuries seem to be getting more and more frequent, so that money must surely be tempting for Sir Alex. He sold Stam far too early and he has admitted his regret over it but the money been banded about and the business approach United have to transfers I can see it happening.

In the summer he will be 31 for the price we sell him we would be able to buy Hummels who will be 24.
October 14, 2012 at 10:05
Diego says:
If we could get Hummels as a replacement, then maybe. Can’t see why Vidic would want to go to Russia.
October 14, 2012 at 10:35
Ash says:
Andoo

Hummels would be a great buy. You are right we need replacements to vidic and Rio but I feel it would be unfair on the part of Jones,Smalling and evans to write them off. Smalling especially has great future ahead of him. But I agree we need one defender. Won’t be surprised if Sir alex buys one this winter.
October 14, 2012 at 11:08
samuel - united WE stand says:
Who in the right mind will.buy a crocked vidic for 30mill? Never going to happen, the rumours are well rumours, you can’t stop them. He’s still not finished as a centre back though, his experience is priceless, i still think the likes of smalling, evans, jones (if he improves in that role), michael keane and wooton would push him for his place, really needs to hope he avoids recurring injuries. I don’t see the hummels deal happening, potentially a world class centre half and all but he’s going to cost massive fees plus he’s probably barca, madrid or bayern bound, if united pull a deal like that off then great but it will not happen. Fergie has seen the younger players coming through in that role, i think he’ll want that to see their development while hoping they step up.
October 14, 2012 at 11:09
samuel - united WE stand says:
Who in the right mind will.buy a crocked vidic for 30mill? Never going to happen, the rumours are well rumours, you can’t stop them. He’s still not finished as a centre back though, his experience is priceless, i still think the likes of smalling, evans, jones (if he improves in that role), michael keane and wooton would push him for his place, really needs to hope he avoids recurring injuries. I don’t see the hummels deal happening, potentially a world class centre half and all but he’s going to cost massive fees plus he’s probably barca, madrid or bayern bound, if united pull a deal like that off then great but it will not happen. Fergie has seen the younger players coming through in that role, i think he’ll want that to see their development while hoping they step up…
October 14, 2012 at 11:34
parryheid says:
Smalling certainly has everything needed to fit smoothly into Rio’s place it’s just a pity he’s a southern softie.
October 14, 2012 at 11:39
samuel - united WE stand says:
“I really don’t see what all of you guys (and Fergie) see in Welbeck.

I read an article that described Welbeck as having touch, control and technique unlike any other English striker and my insides were laughing really. All he has is pace and he’s willing to work hard.

But is that good enough for Man United? I hardly think so.

Of course, he’s only young and I really do hope he proves me wrong and becomes a great striker. But for now, he kills me everytime time he’s on the ball”

Each one to his own i suppose but i totally disagree with this comment, it couldn’t be further from the truth. Welbeck is just not about pace but of course it’s is one of his assets and he’ll damn well use it to good effect. His all round game is only only behind rooney and vanpersie in the united. His touch and control is good, he’s imaginative and creative hence why he’s always part of the one touch intricate moves around the box or scoring classy goals. He holds up play well and puts in a lot of shift up front which does encourage the entire team to follow suit. he’s still learning the game and will hopefully continue to improve. His main issue is composure, it’s something he really needs to work hard on, he’s getting into key positions but rushing things, something i’d imagine the manager/coaches are helping him to sort out. Look, it’s likely not everyone will have the vision to see his potential which is fair enough but he does possess a lot more skill/ability than just pure running, i think i’d be amongst those to point that out if it was the case.
October 14, 2012 at 11:42
samuel - united WE stand says:
“I really don’t see what all of you guys (and Fergie) see in Welbeck.

I read an article that described Welbeck as having touch, control and technique unlike any other English striker and my insides were laughing really. All he has is pace and he’s willing to work hard.

But is that good enough for Man United? I hardly think so.

Of course, he’s only young and I really do hope he proves me wrong and becomes a great striker. But for now, he kills me everytime time he’s on the ball”

Each one to his own i suppose but i totally disagree with this comment, it couldn’t be further from the truth. Welbeck is just not about pace but of course it’s one of his assets and he’ll damn well use it to good effect. His all round game is only only behind rooney and vanpersie in the united team. His touch and control is good, he’s imaginative and creative hence why he’s always part of the one touch intricate moves around the box or scoring classy goals. He holds up play well and puts in a lot of shift up front which does encourage the entire team to follow suit. He’s still learning the game and will hopefully continue to improve. His main issue is composure, it’s something he really needs to work hard on, he’s getting into key positions but rushing things, something i’d imagine the manager/coaches are helping him to sort out. Look, it’s likely not everyone will have the vision to see his potential which is fair enough but he does possess a lot more skill/ability than just pure running, i think i’d be amongst those to point that out if it was the case….
October 14, 2012 at 12:04
van the man says:
@diego

vida spent two years at spartak moscow there, gg back shouldnt be a problem.
honestly, if replaced by someone like hummels, i wouldnt complain!

welbeck needs to stop backheeling so frequently, everybody knows now!
October 14, 2012 at 12:08
mig78 says:
@LucasUTD, if you can’t figure why we’re being patient with Welbeck and his missed chances. Then you should watch the review of ManUtd’s 95/96 season and the amount of chances AndyCole missed. It was even miserable. But hey he was instrumental during our treble winning season.

One the of the reason we bought RVP this season is to bring experience(and confidence) to our strike force and Welbeck (and other young strikers) will benefit from playing & training alongside him. In a couple of years he’ll be deadly.

So please hang in there, a treble winning season could be just around the corner, just in time before Fergie retires.

My boss used to say, treat every idea royally (don’t shoot them off right away just because you think it’s stupid), for one of them would be a King someday.

In this case, we should treat every youngster that’s making his mark at ManUtd royally, for one of them would be a King someday.

Patience & Believe…
October 14, 2012 at 12:35
Hamzah says:
@mig78
Top post mate
I remember I felt frustrated with Darren Fletcher early on in his career, I couldn’t understand what SAF saw in him, a few years after when the same Fletcher was sent off against Arsenal in the CL semi final, I knew we were doomed against Barca, in that space of time, Fletcher proved me wrong and hopefully Danny will do the same as the lad has huge potential, he is a Thiery Henry type of player yet Henry was not as good as Danny is at this age, if he improves his composure and finishing he could be an absolute beast of a player, the complete striker and a truly great player for us.
October 14, 2012 at 12:50
Marq says:
If we could combine Welbeck’s strength & height with Hernandez’s finishing & in-the-box movement, we’d have the perfect striker! =)

Welbeck needs to be more composed, not just his finishing, his decision making as well, many times we see him running through the middle only to refuse to release the ball to team mates out wide, and runs into traffic losing the ball. Composure & awareness comes with experience unfortunately, so we jus need to be patient
October 14, 2012 at 12:50
WeAreUnited says:
Is someone really complaining about Welbeck. For me he is a top lad and a United prospect.

I never forget his first goal, and the first time he played, immediately thought that why SAF doesn’t include him more.

Of course he is in a bad spell, but the guy is a genius. Just watch his goals. His movement and touch. And @Hamzah very well said. He is better than Henry was at his age. But somebody saw something in Henry (Wenger) and someone sees something in Welbeck (SAF).

He will be our future and present! Same as Cleverley, Powell, Smalling and Jones, the ones who doesn’t understand this, will be surprised in a good way after 2-3 years!
October 14, 2012 at 12:53
WeAreUnited says:
@Marq, I agree with you, but remember that Ronaldo was also a bit selfish at his age, but developed his decision making and started getting goals.

It’s hard to compare these two but one was a United player and one is so they have the similar experience. Let’ss hope DannytheLad gets his head right, and starts getting those goals.
October 14, 2012 at 13:24
kel says:
Once the action is back, we will be back.
October 14, 2012 at 13:29
goatinaunitedshirt says:
Rooney will be captain of England once Gerrard hangs his boots up after the 2014 world cup.

Am I the only one that sees problems in tis sentance.
1.Gerrard is a foci for a team full of clueless football players. Only a non international player uses another player specifically in order to get the ball forward. An international player has the ability and range of passing to pick out a number of targets and do some of the work himself. Gerrard is a small clubs big time charlie. Gerrard is the reason England has failed, Gerrard is the reason Liverpool have failed and for the latter point I am eternally grateful. Rooney was the foci of all of Uniteds play last year and because of that myopia we failed against European competition and at times looked woefull on the offensive.
2.I wouldnt have taken Gerrard to the 2010 world cup let alone offer him a place for two years time when he should have hung his boots up along time ago – except for Liverpool.
3.If Rooneys good enough then England should go with youth and the future and throw the golden generation to one side.
4. Rooney is the new Bryan Robson for England and could well be for United too. He strikes me as the third midfielder or 3rd striker running into the box but more importantly utilising his size and strength and running abilities.
5.What type of manager is Hodgson if he regards old experienced players as having an automatic foot in the door. You play if your good enough and even Rooney has to prove himself on a weekly basis.

This is the reason I dont watch England anymore, I have absolutely no pride in the setup.
October 14, 2012 at 13:52
van the man says:
@goat

So true, the gerrard lampard conundrum was what kept ol’ england from developing the pass and move football, lagging behind as the rest of the world evolved.
As for hodgeson’s age bias, that guy is ridiculous, kelly in the euros instead of rio was my last straw for that loser, and as for his latest attempt at carrick, i say thanks but no thanks i’d rather carrick not get injured. you’ve had your chance with carrick!

Anyone else notice how it was rooney welbeck carrick cleverley in the squad? once powell jones and smalling goes into the england setup, it’d be just like old times again!
October 14, 2012 at 14:46
denton davey says:
Proverb @ 20:08: “I don’t know where do they get from all the negativity towards Jones”

From me, it’s not “negativity” but a realistic assessment of his up-side ability. Besides, I think that you seriously under-rate John O’Shea – when he came into the first team he looked like a super-star but he never kicked on to that level BUT he was an extremely valuable asset and, I think, was cast aside too soon. Of course, it might have been the case that O’Shea wouldn’t settle for a lesser role BUT you have to think about the number of times that he would have started matches over the past 18 months to realize that his absence has seriously under-manned the first-team squad.
October 14, 2012 at 15:23
Zibbie says:
Great read!!
Costas and Robbo are spot on !!! No RoM hate just the wurms and cunts that make up 7 names and have a go at people.

Love RoM and the blog!
October 14, 2012 at 18:42
five says:
John O’Shea’s departure was financial mismanagement I read he was on 70K towards the end? that’s a lot of cash and we needed to free up the wage bill and Sir Alex couldnt know that Smalling and Jones would break so easily.

He was a true servant though, so many great moments. Miss him and miss Wes Brown too..Sunderland are lucky to have both.
October 14, 2012 at 19:56
denton davey says:
five @ 18:42: “Sir Alex couldnt know that Smalling and Jones would break so easily.”

Or Rio or CaptainVidic or Jonny Evans – all of whom have been among the walking wounded in the last 18 months.

Having “deep depth” is a luxury – but it’s one that a team of UTD’s ambition should be able to finance.

John O’Shea is now 30/31 ? That’s not old for an experienced defender.

In my view, SAF pulled-the-trigger too quickly on O’Shea as well as Phil Neville. I don’t know the reasoning behind their departures BUT I do feel that this team with those two experienced veteran back-ups would be much more convincing in the quest for EPL, CL, and a couple of minor English trophies.
October 14, 2012 at 20:54
MEXICO is RED says:
Chicharito scores versus Guyana, also he made a good pass for the second goal by Oribe Peralta.
Mexico 5 – 0 Guyana.
October 14, 2012 at 23:33
Adam says:
“Welbeck needs to be more composed, not just his finishing, his decision making as well, many times we see him running through the middle only to refuse to release the ball to team mates out wide, and runs into traffic losing the ball.”

That’s it really. it’s not that he’s selfish (Ronald0) he doesn’t even pound the ball towards the net, he just simply seems to lose himself and wastes precious opportunities to either shoot or pass, his running straight into defenders as if he’s still thinking what he should do next, or fumbling over his own feet is so frustrating to watch.

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