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shocking second half performance. Anderson was terrible, Carrick had his worst game in a while. DDG is becoming a liability and with Stoke in for Butland, looks like either ourselves or Chelski are in for Begovic (not the solution).
The ball retention in the second half was the worst i’ve seen it all season. RVP was surprisingly poor by his high standards.
Vidic’s solidity, Rooney goals and Kagawa’s performance and most importantly – 3points are the only positives to take. Just ticking off the games now. We need to up our game for Madrid though.
This must be on of the worst second half performance by United at OT. I cannot believe that we could be dominated like that at OT. We were very lucky to run away with the victory tonight. If I was a Southampton fan, I would be gutted that my team did not get anything out of this match.
I hope this is a wake up call, and will not ever play like. I was Fergie, I would give win bonuses to charity. Most of our players did not deserve them tonight.
Apart from that, table looks nice!
3 points. Thats what counts. I know its been mentioned, and also by Sir Alex, but that Old Trafford pitch is looking well and truly shot. Apart from that Carrick had a mixed performance, but can’t complain. Not sure about the offside for RVP’s second attempt either. Felt we missed Cleverley today, just couldn’t retain possession in the second half and as usual fell back to desperate defending. It feels that this team has only two modes; all out attack, or scrambling in the box. Cleverley alongside Carrick looks a more stable pair. Nani provided a promising and obvious width for the brief time he was involved. Wonder about Rooney, hope he isn’t carrying an injury now. Apart from the freak goal the return of Vidic really has brought a resilience to the back line, we might have lost possession but we didn’t exactly appear panic stricken. Seven points clear.
Got those set pieces down brilliantly this season.
@Costas. Surely Van Persie has a lot to do with that. Evra too looks a genuine goal threat these days.
Watch! this is the real Anderson’ to be honest his last game against Fulham was reach the basic standard for or to be a champions ,but a lot of time he just like this .wake up and give much time to know about football.
How on earth is welbeck playing all the time? And playing jones in midfield is a fucking farce. He has the footballing ability of a turtle. Dominated at home to relegation fodder, the only thing worse than that second half was the pitch.
Thank god for the set pieces. And thanks as well that DeGea held on after some very iffy handling.
Best to say that we survived and that De Gea has had better games. After that, it’s about putting the ball in the net more than the opposition.
3 points. Hope we do better v Fulham. Same team as last time would do nicely.
Rooooney banging in goals like the old himself good to see that he has still got it and he is not becoming an midfielder ,,,,,,and our performance for the second half was awwful ,,,,,
For god sake plzzz go and buy wanyama im fed up of this midfield we have got ,, we need to have an anchora man to soak up pressure and is strong build for that and wanyama is just that ,,, clevs and wanyama for our future ehh ?
@medumtum
Both RVP and Rooney actually. They are among our best dead ball takers at the moment. And the lads seem to have worked on their positioning. Like you said, especially Evra.
The pedants are out in full force. Every man and his dog knows we played really badly in the 2nd half, but for ppl to be talking as though we lost the match is simply over the top. In a long tournament as it is in this league, we are going to have a mixed bag of performances and we shd be prepared for the below-par days like tonight cos it’s getting tedious.
If offered the choice of dominating relegation fodder and leaving with a point (a la citeh v qpr) and being dominated by relegation fodder and getting 3 pts, I know which I’ll take all day long.
There are far better days ahead guys
Wow, UNBELIEVABLY poor possession in the second half, and we had players on with pace who can pass!!!! Anderson was awful, never in space, hardly tracked back or got tight, made one half decent forward run and basically disappeared – he was the missing link between defence and MF as Carrick was pushed so far back and Anderson was not even there as an outlet in space and so we were stuck back and the forwards had to come back and then we had no one to pass to. That said all the team were at fault, it was an unbelievably bad second half, that really took the shine off the win and raises the old questions about the MF. But! With the players we have how could they be dominated like that? Southampton looked like bloody Barcelona, we have pace, yet we were second to every ball and made them look like world class players and us like doggies chasing piggy in the middle.
Yes 3 points are great but it still feels like a downer. Positives, I am enjoying seeing Kagwa, great assist, he actually hassled for possession and can pass, Rooney was good and two good goals, Evra played really well and Vidic and Rio were solid.
We really need cover for Carrick, he looked drained. Jones was not bad at RB but he is nothing more than average there, Rafael different class. De Gea….worrying. He will cost us wins, he is a few years away from getting his weaknesses sorted.
Not seeing how the experiment of Welbeck on the wing is working out as a good one, Nani from the start for me. No way is Welbeck a better winger than him.
Rd5454 says:
Watch! this is the real Anderson’ to be honest his last game against Fulham was reach the basic standard for or to be a champions ,but a lot of time he just like this .wake up and give much time to know about football.”
Form fluctuates and players will have good and bad games just like anderson was superb in his last game (of course you won’t mention that, your idiocy and hatred for the player clouds any true analysis) but your consistency of coming out with RUBBISH never ceases to amaze.
I know i am gonna get a lot of slack for this but christ welbeck is a shit striker. Try as you might to justify him but one goal for a striker is a joke. Today he was not even a goal threat though the whole team was terrible. If people like nani had the same sandards applied to them theen i would not complain. The guy doesnt look like scoring at all. There are times he holds onto the ball for too long and then plays a poor pass though he runs back to win it. We need him to be a scoring striker not a defending striker..
In terms of people who are just coming on this site to bitch at people who make critical comments about our performance – go wank and fuk off. This is a discussion blog. People have every right to be unhappy at how players performed, that does not mean they don’t support the team. You can bet your bollocks that SAF was going to pounce on them, he looked like he was ready to strangle them from the sidelines.
@ samuel – to be fair, Fulham were also far more shit than Southhampton and did not even try and gave us space to play. However, they played better today, I am not expecting the league match this weekend to be as easy as the FA game.
@ Robin – Welbeck has not been looking a striker this term, there is no point denying that, his decision making and sometimes passing without looking and costing us possession was not great to see, but don’t forget last season. He has not had a run in his preferred position. I think he will be like Walcott and come good but that will take games and experience. SAF is clearly trying to give him more experience.
Carrick has taken full responsibility for that Southampton goal. Of course that won’t stop more reports about De Gea leaving from tomorrow and on..
Can’t dominate every game, united will have games in which it will be on the back foot, it will have to graft and scrap to pick up points and tonight was exactly the same. Possession wise, united need to improve but credit southampton, they weren’t ever going to be pushovers (even though some fools will claim they are an easy team). They went for it and pushed united all the way, they play great football and have added determination to match it. Some people highlighting individuals rather than looking at the overall picture of the team. It’s always pointing the hand of blame at the least favourite player.
A strange game indeed,
first half we were superior, Rooney scored 2.
Second half is one to forget. But it was a second game in 4 days. So no problem.
We shouldn’t be happy to be pressed that much and only defend, but at the same time, it’s rush hour for games at the moment with the upcoming games and all our rivals lost from their game 2 points and we got 3points.
This tells us that, we are doing good, it was not a preformance to remember but we got the points, happy with that!!
Next game, we should go stronger. It’s just that kind of a season. 13comebacks already guys!
decided to put the second half performance aside, cause I would be only nitpicking, and I cannot do that when we win.
3 points, 7points ahead, not happy of the performance, but happy with the result, should get better.
NBI – it’s always tough at the cottage, small pitch and good atmosphere. Some resolute defending will be needed.
De Gea will get some grief in papers, to be honest, Carrick made a mistake, but I think he was also at fault for trying to kick the ball rather than stand still , spread out and block or dive on it. He is a better kicker and footballer than most goalies, he is a great shot stopper, but we all know he needs to work on catching and using his upper body more effectively. His dealing with crosses has improved. He will no doubt improve at the catching, punching and decision making when one on one with a player where he looks weak. But I cannot see that happening for a year or two he is still learning. He will likely be a great goalie in 3/4 years, but for now, it is seat on edge stuff. But as long as he comes good for the long term, does not cost us too many points and is loyal to United, I am happy to see us blood him.
Costas – you can see the editors at the A.B.U. factory aka media rejoicing in their latest articles on de gea. When it comes to the spaniard, they make a special exception, their microscope is firmly fixated on him, they don’t thoroughly analyse games, it will be another lambasting for de gea regardless of what carrick has to say.
Carrick needs some rest. Key matches coming thick and fast now and the swine Citeh are out of the CL so we will be more stretched than them.
Madrid are also looking sharper now, drew with Barca and did a decent job of neutralising their attacking threat. It also has to be taken into account this was a different formation for us with a number players played out of their usual position. Worked first half. But we had no outlet second half and were camped in our own third for so long we might has well have done some gardening on the pitch there.
Hopefully De Gea cannot read English so will just see his picture in the papers and be happy. Relax with a donut and focus on next game. Some huge games coming up for him there is a lot of pressure on his shoulders to learn fast.
@Samuel
The writing was on the wall as soon as Southampton scored and the cameras kept showing David. One of the commentators (Ian Darke I think) also blamed him. And it’s really funny because my live coverage wasn’t in English and those commentators blamed the goal entirely on Carrick. The whole thing has become so embarrassing, that Carrick had to come out and acknowledge his part, because he and the manager knew what was bound to come from certain idiots.
7 points up am satisfied though shitty second half performance…we have to improve
i was watching also el classico to see my opponet it seems the virus have the same problems of
shitty defence…but us we are improving a bit than em..Cavalho was shitty,though varanne was bloody good at 19…he is good. Who said tick tacka is entertaining?
Its bloody boring and Barca were shitty today..Back to our lads Kagawa is making the difference…technically he is so much good. Rooney also thats 250 k a week and we want to see week in week out.
Real beat Barca 2-1 – level on points in cup but win on away goals.
Sorry that was only first leg 1-1.
Feb 13 we play Madrid, can’t wait! It would be good to get a sense of what the settled team will be. Back 4, Carrick, Rooney and RVP pick themselves. SAF will need to decide who of the rest he will take to Madrid.
Pals we are the first sport team to be valued at 3bl if am not mistaken………
Is that bloody pitch match our standards???we cant manage that bloody pitch?
Its awful really and its joke…and it is getting worse day in day out…They manage to sort out Carrington kick your team mate enjuries….now they need us to shout
again about this
Also heard Pea was left out of squad with head injury, if its true, it is a worry that he gets these head problems, I hope it does not affect him badly in the future as he is going to keep getting knocks and headers as a player.
Southhampton had no problems passing on the pitch.
Evra is a rigt menace on our set plays. Keeps sneaking in and got a goid leap too.
Totally loving it. Couldnt score from set play last year so its great we are doing well in that area.
its not the matter of passing, am talking about pitch quality…it is becoming like a rugby ground pall
kagawa was brilliant in the first half, welbeck was very average.
As always, most of the people to shout angry words on the internet, are the most stupid and ignorant of all! People here are finding everything to cry about, not only the below par performance we saw tonight! “The pitch is fuckin’ shit, why can’t they fkn manage it!” Well if you knew anything more about United than the results you’d know the grass will be changed after the end of the season! It’s been there for record time because how well it’s been managed, but as clueless as some of you are, you wouldn’t know or care about that! You just need something to moan about!
Again “Welbeck is a shit striker, why do we keep playing him”! Do you even watch games? He hasn’t been playing as a striker for a long time! Tonight he was a winger and did his job better then our other wingers have for some time now! How about you realize that this club isn’t run by idiots but by human beings who know a shit lot more about what they’re doing than you lot! It’s players are also human witch means they can’t always play 110% on top of their form like machines! We maneged to get a victory despite having a bad day on the pitch! Celebrate it, don’t cry about it! It’s what makes champions!
NBI Red Onion
Fergie said Chicharito was out with a HIP injury not a head injury. Said he should be back for saturday.
As good as our performance was on Saturday todays was very poor. Though Carrick was a bit caereless at times and it seemed to infect the whole team. Anderson was very good Saturday tonight he was poor. Maybe he should not have played as he is just back from injury.
Not looking 4ward to the Real games. They looked very good tonight against Barca. I am concerned that we will put in a couple of performances like tonight and get spanked. Tear me apart to watch that, hate the virus.
On Tonight’s game most important part was 3 THREE POINTS.
Might be the worst second half we have played since the 6-1 thrashing by City. Just shocking all round. It was in the second half that the true value of Cleverley to the team showed. He works extremely hard all round unlike Anderson who is only ready to attack and forsake all defensive duties. And it is clear as day to see that Phil Jones is simply not a right back. I am tired of seeing this man played out of position frequently. I know Rafael needed a rest but christ play anyone BUT Phil Jones at RB. And we have praised Carrick all season so it was almost inevitable that he would have one off game and today was that day. God help us in the champions league when Real Madrid’s forwards pressure the ball. Carrick needs to learn to release the ball under pressure. Sometimes it looks like he’s loading who exactly to pass the ball to. We’ve tried it many times and it’s usually the same result. Hopefully Rafael and cleverley will return to the starting line-up. Carrick’s performance was rare so I;m convinced it won’t happen again for a long long time.
This performance must never happen again. We have Fulham, Everton, Madrid coming up in the next few weeks. We really HAVE to pick it up now.
People say we were awful, but really it took a couple of great saves by their keeper to keep them in it, an offside that could have gone either way, and a shot that was stopped by the woodwork. We might have looked like we squeaked a 2-1, but we might also have easily thrashed them.
By the normal run of things this season we’d have buried a lot more of those chances.
We don’t need to panic, but we do need to demand more composure across the team. We’ve been overrun a couple of times now.
De Gea should av gone for the ball sooner and with his hands not legs. Welbeck,,. What is left to say? he’s our emile heskey. Kagawa, rooney Rafael , evra were superb. Jones not a MF or RB,
Costas – it’s amazing really, they’ve had it in for de gea since that charity shield game and admittedly he does have improvements yo make, they continiously disregard the positives. It has turned into an absolute disgraceful circus. The only good thing is, fergie will use it to build a siege mentality which will hopefully play a part in aiding united.
Uniteds stock has risen about 35 percent in the past three months.Well boys we got a pasting and lived to tell the tail.7 points clear moving on to 10 at the weekend Hopefully .
I think people are overreacting. While I agree that it wasn’t the best of performances, it wasn’t horrible either.
Despite all their pressing, S’oton didn’t really make any clear cut chances. Our defence held together well, and Carrick was having an off-day. Rooney and Ando were making semi-comebacks, playing two continuous games after long layoffs is no mean feat.
And to fault United for playing poorly is unfair to Southampton, who played well, with great energy and will. SAF himself said that that was the best 2nd half performance by any team visiting OT this season.
So lay off United, would ya? We have had a great run of form, and are top of the league, and on course for a 20th league title having beaten the other contenders convincingly.
Crucial win but definitely not the best of games Utd have had, yes they dominated the 1st half and should have scored more, that 2nd half was just dreadful, looks like complacency creeping in, which must be avoided at all cost… Fergie needs to send them back to Qatar again it seems to get the energy and focus back on
Hope so cleverly gets back ,,coz he is the one always open for balls ,,he could helped out carrick today ando & jones are not that good enough ,,and for god sake buy begovic im fed up of looking for something positive in his performance im not blaming this guy but we need stability at back someone to depend on he is just untidy schoolboy ,,,,
And as for madrid game
David da gea
Rafa vidic rio evra
Nani carrick cleverly kagawa
Rooney
Robin van persie
De Gea seriously at fault for the first goal. Instead of trying to play it he should have drove his foot through it or went for it with his hands and taken ball and man. It looked like he wimped out of that tackle. I know I shouldn’t compare but if that had been Schmeichel he would have taken the ball in his hands and clattered into the player aswell. Then he would have bawled Carrick out of it for his fuck up.
Someone said before in reference to Welbeck that he should be an attacking forward and not a defending forward. Well said.
Really poor in the second half. We rolled out the red carpet.
With us struggling at home, Chelsea throwing away 3 points at reading and QPR holding city it’s either a very competitive league or we’re the best of a bad lot.
Shit second half performance no doubt but I’d take such and 3points rather dan play superbly n get a point. Its a one-off n we’l definitely come good. GGMU
Jones at the right Back is ok for me. but in the midfield…….noo. we seem to defend when he is playing just like we did at spuds. 3 points for me anytime
Jol said Berba is likely to miss the game on Saturday. That’s good news for our defence.
We need to learn how to play properly for an entire match. How many times has it been this season that we played an absolute horror for a second half after taking a lead? Real will punish us for it. Time to buck up.
Against Real we wont be over run for two reasons we will play the long line along the middle and there wont be any stupid experimental team out like last night.Players will be in their positions.
The ability to hang and grit it out for a win, even when you’re playing like crap, should not be under-estimated. Yes, we might easily have let in more than one goal. But we didn’t. Yes, we might easily have failed to score even one ourselves. But we didn’t. Yes, we might easily have collapsed and totally lost the plot in the second half. But we didn’t. And yes, a better team than Southhampton might have found a way to finish us off. But we weren’t playing a better team, and to worry like that is idle and pointless.
We scraped through. It was ugly. Dire. Desperate. But we hung on. Not every team would have found a way to do that. But we did, and that’s what counts.
I don’t think our defence were ever worried about Berbatov, if Neville is right they are more worried about De Gea.
I think De Gea is great potential but right now if I had a choice between him and Van Der Sar or another experienced keeper I know who I would pick. Would not be adverse to De Gea going on loan to get experience for a year. Everyone wants De Gea to do well but there is no point wearing United tinted glasses, we have been here before between Schmichel and VDS, many of us also wanted Foster to be No.1 he never made it and his nerves affected the team, it is obvious the defence is not happy with the keeper and he makes them uneasy and detracts. Tactless for Neville to say what player think of him publicly, obviously he knows as he is in touch with the guys, but it was too much inside info. I doubt SAF will give De Gea longer than this season to try to be No 1, right now he is getting his chance.
@ Bobby wasn’t it a backpass from carrick so I guess De gea didn’t consider it an option to handle it.
Why were we so poor last night in the second half? would have to say it was simply being complacent..no matter how aware of it the team are it can still creep in there’s no way I can imagine us being this poor against a team in say the top four. Was it really that southampton were that good? I don’t think so at all..as it was utd in the second half time after time that kept giving the ball away.. when that happens of course the opposition are going to grow in confidence and gain momemtum.. and while they did they still had very little of an end product.. So I guess SAF was being protective of his team by praising opposition instead of criticising his own team which in all fairness he always his..
Kagawa is certainly beginning to grow in to himself and look forward to watching him much more
Of course our defence was concerned about Berbatov, Fulham’s best player by a country mile.
Of course, NBI hates Berbatov, even wishing for his death when he was at United.
Of course Van Der Sar was more adept to the rigours of the Premiership than de Gea is. Edwin is one of the best keepers that the WORLD has seen, especially in the last 20 years. However, David is already a better keeper than Edwin was at 22 years of age, and by all indications he will join our pantheon of world-class keepers.
One might suggest that Dani Alves is a better right back than Rafael. I still wouldn’t select him to start for United, as we would FORFEIT the game. Alves is NOT in our squad, neither is Van der Sar.
Suggesting that Schmeichel would not have conceded the goal against Southampton, is puerile and irrelevant. Our Great Dane conceded many goals that de Gea would routinely save. Actually, de Gea was NOT responsible for the goal. In fact, had we not conceded in that instance, it would be far more remarkable. Most top players would have scored, and few keepers would have prevented it. Claims that David should have used his hands show a poor understanding of the back-pass rule. Claims that he could have easily cleared the ball are are merely the hypothetical ramblings of an armchair critic operating with hindsight. Perhaps David could have planted his feet in front of the the onrushing Rodriguez, which is again hindsight, and could also have easily resulted in a goal.
Did David cover himself with glory at that moment? No.
Was he to blame? No.
Did it cost us? No.
Will he have learnt from it? Yes.
Is de Gea already a better keeper than Mark Bosnich, Raimond van der Gouw, Nick Culkin, Massimo Taibi, Paul Rachubka, Andy Goram, Roy Carroll, Ricardo, Tim Howard, Ben Foster, Tomasz Kuszczak and Ben Amos? I’d say: Yes.
In the dozen plus years that have passed since Schmeichel left, a dozen plus keepers have played for us and only Edwin Van der Sar and Fabien Barthez could be considered a better keeper than de Gea already is.
Yes, he will improve. Yes, he has weaknesses. Yes, he’s a better choice to start for United than any of the dozen plus recent contenders for the berth. Yes, de Gea is our keeper, and once again it seems that we have a real gem on our books. Still to be cut and polished, but not to be discarded or molly-coddled.
David de Gea, champion keeper in-the-making, best shot-stopper in the Premiership, and most importantly, Manchester United’s goalkeeper – chosen with due diligence by the greatest judge we have known – Sir Alex Ferguson.