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December 15, 2012 100 Comments
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Good result although we should have scored more.
Hope I am not sounding too Greedy
One United. Only One.
United win 3-1. Gratifying that United lads got all 4 goals as well
van Persie, Cleverley, Rooney & ofcourse FraizerCampbell (former Youth player!)
Poznan that you Sunderland fans! Pathetic lot!
Top day!
United win in style.
Liverpool loose at home to an under 22 side from Villa!
City player being questioned for racist abuse of fans at St James park.
On the game,
How good were Carrick and Cleverley? Such class.
Heard that Carrick is top of the league in forward passes this year! Take that ya Carrick-bashers! Ha
How good to see Vidic back, though he clearly needs some time before he’s going to be a first choice.
Still a very very welcome sight indeed.
Love this shot.
O’Neil hitting the bottle hard….. and early!
https://api.twitter.com/FletchTM/status/280011039754563585
A good day’s work. Well taken goals and good team work play. Clearly Rooney and RvP are growing in understanding – the missing piece will be when Kagawa comes back and slots in to give us more of an edge.
Good to see Cleverly go to mark some of his potential. Excellent taken goal. More please!
Now let’s focus on the Xmas programme. If we can get past those games unscathed then that will bring some extra Xmas cheer.
Good day good result and golorov being question by police over racial comment just can ask for more.
I’m sorry? You find it great that a player is accused of racism? What utter, vile dross. Any other vile crimes you’d like to see happen if it’s done by a rival player. Joke fans.
jon phillips rose hill fuck off hey.just got back from game good 3 points and just found out thge scouse shite have lost.yep jon rose or whatever your fucking name is our REAL fucking rivals not a tip pot plastic club like yours
Unbelievble from john smith. He made sure he was in our first ten comments. Say you are a city supporter, why dont you go and comment and enjoy your victory. If liberpool please go and mourn you know where
Quite, Ronnie, quite. No problem with that Ronnie old bean – apart from the obvious point that if we’re not rivals, why are your joke fans even mentioning it? would they do it if it was a Fulham player?
If your joke fans are pleased that a rival player has been accused of racism then its just wrong which, even a charming man like you, can’t deny..
“Hey, a player of our rivals has murdered someone! Yey! Roll out the bunting!”
Give me strength. Embarrassing.
Joke fans, I repeat, joke fans.
cos fuckers like you are on our blog.just fuck off you prick i dont know anything about any racist comments ive just got back from our game.you obsessed or what.why do you spend your weekends coming onto this blog annoying us united fans with bitter blue comments.i repeat i dont give a fuck about your tin pot club so just do one hey…..
Fletch “the man” : creepy enough inserting smilies, but doing it after an alleged act of racism…..
Glad you’re so happy.
Thick.
Joke fans.
Nibble nibble Ronnie.
Course you don’t care Ronnie. Just keep biting.
Mr Phillips & Miss Hill… Your both going to cause an argument in here!
Jon Phillips Rose Hill, Cheers mate, but clearly we don’t know each other well enough for you to be leveling assumptions about my character.
Happy to explain myself though. Laughing at City was my intention. Not at the player OR the issue you raise. We regularly laugh at City on this site and a favorit topic is their tendency to sign players who let themselves down in their Character . Not saying that other fans won’t take the piss when a United player falls short, but do enjoy a comment when it is city.
As to the racism issue, not a laughing matter at all. Dead serious in fact. Stamp it out and it starts with us fans. I actually hope that nothing untoward happened, just a ‘fan’ trying to make a name for themselves. The game of football doesn’t need any more negative press. If you want to discuss it further, have at it then. Cheers
Guess the WUM had his fill.
How about those Reds!
Fantastic goal by Cleverley. I just can’t stop seeing it over and over again.
Ha! Amir Khan wearing the #5 cap to the weigh in!
Rio Ferdinand fan in the house! Epic! HAHAHA!
Hey rosie. Fuck off to blue moon. Cheers.
Oh Jon you mug.
Damn straight I’m glad a city player could have the kitchen sink at him.
No one is condoning racism and you know it. Joke fans. Ure one to talk. Wonder if Rios forehead still hurts from your joke fans thinking its okay to attack a rival player with a coin. Or the little runt who wanted to square up to Rio. Joke fans,yeah right. Do me a favour
*thrown at him
Redninja- 19:40. Errrr you can ask for more, a dipper. Loss.
Superb assist for RVP goal. Superb.
The coin incident would never happen at OT. , the. Prawn sandwich brigade o my carry £50.00 notes, no loose change
Slim – coin growing and pitch invading is wrong. By anyone. Including the Utd fans throwing coins/fag lighters at Bellamy and the Utd fan attacking him on the pitch. Joke fans.
Fletch ‘the man’ – its not a “top day” when this happens. Far from it. Take your blinkers off.
“Cleverley did very well in the derby and deserved his position. We have a lot of options in midfield with Anderson, who is injured at the moment, Darren Fletcher, Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs. People says we’re weak in midfield but these are very good players.
“Sometimes it gives me a problem with selecting the correct two but today (Saturday) was very simple though because Carrick and Cleverley deserved to play after last week.”– SAF
Does any of you have a similar dilemma when selecting United’s midfield 2? I’m sorry but is SAF living in the past? He knows that people say our midfield is week but he thinks he has got Fletcher, Scholes and Giggs, who apparently are very good players at the moment.
fckin chill out attacking fletchtheman for his comment stupid morons, he was obviously not condoning or finding racism funny, he was making an obviously ironic statment, so go fck yourseld stupid police wannabe asswholes.
Jon Jon You are a pathetic sniveling worm arn’t ya.
Run along then, go play with your mates in the road. And do mind the lorrys won’t ya. They’re scary sometimes….
Tom’s goal was poetry in motion. Best move of the night.
De Gea’s great
De Gea’s fast
De Gea saves it with his ass [knee actually]
And we are weak in midfield and have been for quite some time and I think the manager is about to duck doing his job Again as his after match summary reflected just what you said,he also thinks we have enough.Well I beg to differ.
Costas, Cheers mate, it was a peach! Cleverley’s second goal of the season and both absolute peaches! But the build up beminds us of what we have been missing with him out so much of last year.
Last years community shield v the Bitters, Cleverley and Nani on in second half, end of story. Especially the build up to the second goal!
Last years 8-2 v Arsenal, Cleverley and Ando in MF for the entire game.
Then he got done by Gary Cahill and had to come of after 10min v Bolton and never the same after.
What might have been? eh.
Nah, the midfield is fine. We have Fletcher. We rarely use him, but we have him. And Anderson will be back in 2 months. Plenty of options…
Jon
I haven’t got the time of day for you man.
You’re of a silly sort
@Fletch
Yep, the movement was irresistible. Tom is a weird kind of midfielder. There’s not an area he particulary excels at, but his all around movement makes our passing more quick and hard to handle. Once his teammates start reading his movement, our passing game gets an added dimension. We definitely did miss him last season. Especially in games where our midfield was too static. He just has to start scoring against teams outside of Tyneside too.
jon “joke fans” assume youve just got back from newcastle or maybe not……….i guess you got your season ticket 3 years ago when the oil men arrived like all your fake supporters…..just like that prick who ran on the pitch to confront rio………just wish hart would have let rio twat the fucker to be honest
United v sunderland – 27 min
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvyugc_epl-manchester-united-vs-sunderland-highlight-hd-720p_sport?search_algo=2#.UM0aNBxOqTw
Just looking back at the overall class of van persie. More oftem than not, his first touch is like that of a feather floating through the wind. He may not be blistering fast but the world class players are usually quick minded, a step ahead of the opposition and that’s exactly what van persie is. His movement is a nightmare for defenders as wel. Drops deep, goes left and right, always keeping defenders on the back foot and guessing. He’s an archetypal dutch man with flair and imagination. They seem to produce more often than any european region. Bergkamp, robben, add RVP to the many left footed magicians. He was in the right place at the right time for his goal, always sniffing for a chance to poach. Look at his link up play with young, he jinked past 2 defenders with guile and imagination. 16th of the season, hope that continues.
This win will send a message to the Sunderland ‘poznan’ fans and all others not to celebrate when United loses cause we always come back and haunt you.
Credit to jones, he looked back to his powerful best, embarking on his trademark barnstorming runs from full back. Linked well with valencia (ecuador man didn’t look his best to be fair), whipped in crosses all day and shows great versatility. Tailed off last season due to injuries and form, he now looks to be finding his way back. I still wonder what position he will settle at, this is the dilemma jones and the manager have to settle.
Smalling had a great game until the part in which he switched off, brings back memories of rio in his early united career but then ended up turning world class. Smalling has everything to climb those heights. Powerful aerially, fantastic mobility across the ground. Hope he keeps learning from the experienced players because i feel his potential is superb.
Rooney had a cracking game. Left one of his shooting boots at home with some gilt edged chances but his all round play was a joy to see. He’s thriving alongside RVP, two world class players on the same wavelenght. Top class players bring the best out of other top players, i hope there’s more to come from wayne.
De gea was class. Showcasing he’s the undisputed number 1. Yes there are bound to be one or two errors as a younger keeper but he’s developing as i expected, hope that continues.
Carrick at his efficient best again. I said it once.before, when carrick.plays alongside a dynamic player, it kicks his game on. Kept things ticking and tocking till he went off. He’s very.important to this united team in terms of bringing balance, experience and composure. Hope he kicks on.
Cleverley, i said he was passive a little while ago.moving the ball side to side and not stamping the authority required but his performance against city was very good, carried on the form into this game. He provides that energy, zip quick passing to compliment carrick’s relaxed style but he’s now starting to grab the ball and making things happen in the final 3rd. Superb combination play with michael and nice curler into the.bottom corner, that’s what i like to see and hope that continues.
Thought young was effective. Less predictability in his game lately. Cutting.in or driving forward with his left foot, keeps defenders puzzled. Obviously he’d have to keep making impacts more.often before the question mark over him disappears.
Generally a good performance for an hour, annoyed slightly by giving away a sloppy goal. We can’t rest, we must keep pushing as city won’t go away.
Nice to have vida back. It will take him a couple of games to get back to that level though. Fergie should reintroduce gradually and wisely. You can’t deny that at his best, he’s a world class centre back.
most man u fans are mad to think that fergie needs new mid players or any other players for now., Chelsea have spent big yet again and fergie does 1 deal at not even 30mil and look at the results, City ok they didn’t spend big for this season cos no1 can deny that they have probably the best players in English football and infact more than likely couldn’t need any1 else. but as we all know fergie he dosent need players he needs a solid team!!! In UNITED we have that and that’s a thing that only 1 side of Manchester will ever have.
ROBIN VANPERFECT!!!!!
ahahahaha , great game and fantastic game
Top.of.tha.league! Keep it lit people!
@samuelUnitedwestand. Were the fuk does kagawa fiit in2 ths team. Imo we already have the greatest! In Rooney. I cnt see were the ninja fits in…
*btw* i mean in that position. Rooney is immense..
I think Tony V has lost his effectiveness and it seems like he’s got no clue what to do with the ball at times…
@ van. U talk dung my friend.
@ belfast red. I think SAF should try kagawa on the left wing. He plays there for his country. Tony V has not been in very good form atm, but young is. So shift young to the right and put kags to the left while wazza and VP keep their current positions and let’s see what happens.
Kagawa fits in nicely. Whwn he gets back he can play on the left or behind van persie,with Rooney playing the space vacated. Like everyone else he’ll have to show the boss he should be in contention and I’m confident he will do it. He’s a much different no.10 than Rooney ,would play reall well in a 3 man midfield with one striker. It’s the same problem we had at the start of the season,injuries just made the decision for the gaffer.
With Hernandez and Danny gagging for games along with Ando, there’s gonna be preferred diamond formation and it will feature the Japanese maestro. Can’t wait to have him back.
Carrick,fletcher/tom c and Ando patrolling the midfield with kagawa,Rooney and van persie up top sounds delicious and looks a strong mobile set up too.
There so many permutations up front its scary. You could sub Rvp for Hernandez,move roo to the center and sub kagawa for Danny. Or stick roo up top with kagawa on the left,Valencia on the right. If the stars and constellations align these guys could do some real damage. It all depends on having the right combo of midfielders fit
Valencia gone missing?
Pet theory: Valencia can’t hit the target because it is no longer recognizable.
Facts: Rooney’s hair transplant have removed the beacon of bling that was visible for miles.
Solution: Paint a shiny patch on the forehead of the CF of the day.
[.... said completely tongue in cheek ...]
Our biggest hinderance this season will be Fergie’s insistence on tinkering with the midfield when it isn’t really necessary. I think he made the comment yesterday that Carrick and Cleverley deserved to play after their performance in the derby? Hopefully, they’ll stay in because at the moment they are our best pairing. He did allude to the fact that he changes the midfield depending on the opposition. It’s only my opinion but that is a slightly dangerous way of doing things and is the reason why we got beaten at Norwich.
I actually dread us playing once a week sometimes as i know Fergie will be just itching to change things around for the sake of it! If you get used to rotating and ‘freshening things up’ it can be difficult to stop and play a settled side. I know we’ll rotate 4 or 5 players for each game over the festive period. I just worry how that will affect any fluency that we may have built up by then. In the late 90s we could get away with wholesale changes week after week. I’m not sure it’s like that these days!
Important read:
Fergie: Not bringing in anyone in January.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2248826/Manchester-United-boss-Sir-Alex-Ferguson-rules-buying-Theo-Walcott-anybody-January.html
Suppose that doesn’t rule our deals that move in the summer. But basically proves that all these links have been pure, unadulterated tosh!
Belfasf red – kagawa has a massive fight on his hands in terms of competing with wayne for that number 10 role. Wayne is not only a rare all round talent but he’s also incredibly determined and he won’t want to give up the idea of being a key player. I think kagawa will have to adapt to another position, perhaps on the left as some have pointed out but in a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 or any other flexible tactics. I don’t think he can play effectively as a winger a basic 4-4-2, he would be drifting in a lot and his game could suffer. There’s also a chance if he could get stronger to play in central mid but to be honest, kagawa’s best role is an attacking playmaker. He knew the tough task he had when he chose united and how tough this league is, he’s still needs to adapt before we see his overall quality. I think it’s good to know united have a player in kagawa breathing down wayne’s neck, it sharpens him up and at least, united have an option with the japanese who i feel could be crucial in the champions league hopefully when he starts regaining form.
There are several alternatives, i think kagawa could be tried a little deeper in midfield, in which he can use his dynamism, ping passes around and make late runs as he’s a top finisher, it won’t be his most effective or favourite position but he has to be integrated back into the team. I think he’s adaptable and technically good enough to carry out these roles.
I also think united need to his strenghts well. We need to play more passes into him when marked, he has the ability to dribble past an opponent rather than always going wide.
It would be interesting to see how he kicks on, i hope he’s hit the gym to work on his upper body strenght, could be a step towards adapting. This is a dilemma we should cherish though.
This morning I read some rumors about Hernandez quitting United, any truth to that?anybody here??:((
Andromeda – you cannot stop rumours. Hernandez is an easy target for idiots in the media. Pick the quiet nice guy in the united team and claim he wants to leave with a mysterious non existent source. Hernandez is an integral member and a key player in the team, he’ll get more than his fair share of game time. He gives united an alternative to the likes of RVP and rooney. No chance of him leaving.
Cleverly seems to be growing into his game though his ability to track back and tackle need to improve quite a bit, he often just ball watches the other team attacking, even Pea tracks back more, he needs to watch the way Barca midfielders hustle off the ball. His attacking play is getting back to the promise he showed.
However, either Cleverly or Rooney will need to be stood down for Kagwa. It will probably be Cleverly. He has a little time to prove himself before Kagwa is back but right now Kagwa is the far better player. He is not a wing player. Once back and fit I think he will be a premier league star and his thinking complements RVP, Pea and Rooney.
andromeda
really hope that doesnt happen, fucking love the lad!
Offtopic hahahahahah bitter fan coming here. fucking windup. get a life ya fuck, joke fans? your club is a fucking joke. racist fans, racist players, clueless manager. go fuck yourself. last season was a fluke, even Mancini said United lost it. fuck right off and take Mario with you.
Ontopic great win! would’ve liked to keep the clean sheet for DeGea but fuck he was immense! first half was class, yeeeeeeah! 8D
Playing kagawa deep would be so ineffective,kagawa plays his best when in an advanced attacking role. What he has done since he came can’t be compared to what he did at dortmund.when I see videos of kagawa I just can’t wait for him to get back
@Tope99
Isn’t that because Dortmund press a lot higher up the pitch?
Where as United play more on the counter attack?
Corinthians!!!! 1-nil
Not sure if Corinthians are actually good or Chelsea is
just shit!!!
@Proverb….Corinthians are much better than the Mexicans the Renties played ……oh and Chelsea are shit
so happy the rentfags lost
A couple good reads on Carrick
http://www.stretford-end.com/2012/12/michael-carrick-and-roy-keane-so-dissimilar-yet-so-alike/
http://hereisthecity.com/2012/11/29/mn-looking-at-the-stats-is-manchester-uniteds-michael-carrick-th/
It’s over in Japan, and that’s it. chelsea now confirm they are shit and only won the champs league because of a truck-load of luck.
And so much for lady boy being back to is best. Missed a sitter he did when it was easier to score.
Shit club and shit manager. Both got what they deserved.
11:08
The last replay of our second goal
Was that a little smile on O’shea face?
Manchester United: 2 time World Club Champions:
Intercontinental Cup (1999)
FIFA Club World Cup (2008).
Only English club to win either and only to win both!
Related: Thinking Red cards in FIFA competitions result in bans for CL matches.
Didn’t Scholes red at Club Championship make him miss a CL game the following year?
Anyone?
I hope Benitez stays on as the chelski manager. Its
pure comedy
One laughs at Chelsea losing but won has to look at the pathetic FA.
Spot the difference:
Corinthians Schedule:
2/12 São Paulo (A) L 1-3 Bras Last game of Season with no need to win.
12/12 Al Ahly (A) W 1-0 CWC
16/12 Chelsea (H) W 1-0 CWC
Chelsea Schedule:
8/12 Sunderland (A) W 3-1 Prem
13/12 Monterrey (A) W 3-1 CWC
16/12 Corinthians (A) L 0-1 CWC
19/12 Leeds (A) 19:45 GMT CC
NBI – You don’t stand players down for another, kagawa has to earn it. He’s got to prove himself at this club, you’re basing his supposed guaranteed start due to his displays at dortmund. He needs to work hard at united and earn his corn. This club will not adapt to him, it has the other way round. Kagawa not only needs to adapt to the physical and tactical style of the PL, he has to learn the language. He has great potential but we need to see it.
I do agree with the cleverley point, he needs to be more aware and have more desire to stop danger on the pitch. I think it’s a tactical awareness issue, he needs to work hard on that side of his game.
- Lost the Community Shield.
- Lost the UEFA Super Cup.
- Lost the FIFA Club World Cup.
- Knocked out of the Champions League group stages.
- Out of the Premier League title race.
Season defined…
Hahahaha
fucking clowns
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This is pure comedy, the ladyboy had never lost in a final, but chelsea managed to screw him and his record
Typos??! Sheesh
Proverb, Cheers mate…. Didn’t know about this Torres record in finals. Been in a few finals then? or is it more coming off the bench? Couldn’t say I ever paid attention. But most of those finals with Spain I don’t recall him on until the result is in the bag.
One thing is for sure, the lads temperament is dour. Like today’s match. When things go south, his character goes right out the window. Would be the last lad you’d want to count on in a tough pinch.
Never a United player, not in a million years. There are alot of posters on here that really need to look at themselves with flavor of the month footy manager stuff. Remember folks gutted he signed for ‘pool years ago. More recently calls for the owners head when we didn’t sign Nasri. Then last month calls to break the bank for Fellani.
Not a chance!
Ive just shaved my pubes. I feel like a young boy again. I feel we need atleast two midfielders and 2 centerbacks and two wingers because we are shit. I kissed a girl, tee hee. I think we should get Hernandez Garcia from Sporting Humpti of Peru as he is excellent. Ive seen him play 2 times on my x-box. We need a hard tackling midfielder who takes no prisoners. Umbungo Salif is a good one that I heard a person on football365 mention two weeks ago, hes getting great reviews in the Daily Goat which is a respected newspaper in Surinam. I think Sir Alex is passed it, he must be like, what 40. Ashley Young is slow and never scores. Why didnt Rafael start, Jones is so slow and runs like a moose. I mean imagine going shopping with him he’d knock all the racks of clothes over, hes such a clumsy oaf. Scholes and Giggs played together again I see, how 1990′s.
We wont do anything unless we adress our glaring deficiences in Defence, Midfield and Attack. Is Rooney past it only 8 goals.
DECEMBER 16, 2012 AT 14:27
samuel – united WE stand says:
“NBI – You don’t stand players down for another,
kagawa has to earn it. He’s got to prove himself at
this club, you’re basing his supposed guaranteed
start due to his displays at dortmund. He needs to
work hard at united and earn his corn. This club will
not adapt to him, it has the other way round.
Kagawa not only needs to adapt to the physical and
tactical style of the PL, he has to learn the
language. He has great potential but we need to
see it.
I do agree with the cleverley point, he needs to be
more aware and have more desire to stop danger
on the pitch. I think it’s a tactical awareness issue,
he needs to work hard on that side of his game.”
Agreed
But shouldn’t we play him in his favored position so he could prove himself well?
The last time we played him there on his favored role he was devastating that pass to chicha inch perfect unfortunately he went off injured but imo he did just about enough to warrant a place in the first even which basically answers your question and NBI’s.
With all due respect to young , a full form kagawa is and will be better than full form Young. I will play kagawa at left flang. Not as a winger but as a left attacking midfielder who can interchange his position with Rooney and RVP. Cleverly and carrick should be our first choice Midfielding pair with Tony V or Nani(If he stays) in Right wing. My line up with kagawa will be
Carrick Cleverly
Tony V Kagawa
Rooney
RVP
But like samuel said kagawa has to play well to earn his spot. But I have seen kagawa play for dortmund and have to say he was their best player.
@fletchtheman
glad we didnt sign nasri… to be honest i wanted us to sign him. i think we will get the midfielder that we need soon. i think fergie will only buy wen the right player becomes available , like rvp. he did say after signing rvp that he wanted to sign 1 more player but he was not available.
@samuelUnitedwestand. I hope your right. As you knw we play at our best with wingers and with Rooney given the free role as a floating c.f. kagawa has an uphill battle to make that role hs unless we play a diamond formation or a 433 with no witdth imo the team is getting bck 2 fourm without the tinkering tho maybe S.a.f is Looking at the future and sees Rooney as the nxt scholes and believe he has the game to take that mantle on, but for me atm he has far to many goals in him to be sacrificed. Like u said We are lucky 2 have such a dilemma.
Fsw is a joke but let’s face it most of Chelsea’s problems stem from Roman he signs the players who get all the hype or who he likes personally not what best for the club.Then to top it off if the manager doesn’t play the players he’s bought regardless of form manager gets the punt
Dippers loss yesterday goes back to how overrated possession is without any penetration,Dippers had 68percent of possession and lost 3-1,Le Arse are another team who just pass the ball around aimlessly with no killer touch
Chelsea ran their luck in uefa champions league. I bet if he had even half the luch that chelsea had we would have wrapped the league with ease. The reality is chelsea are a shit side. Mata and Hazard are good especially mata. Other than that they have bunch of overrated guys. Oscar is ok but not that great like some pundits are saying. He may become great but definitely not at chelsea. Chelsea will never make a star player. It was the skill of mourinho that made chelsea the team to beat. Drogba always gives credit to mourinho for his success. ANCELLOTI WAS good but roman sacked him. Chelsea like I SAID in start of the season with implode. Don’t be surprised if they again finish outside top 4.
@samuel – united WE stand
It has been both ways mate, he’s one lucky bastard
If you recall his goal which automatically eliminated barca you’ll get the point I’m trying to make, it didn’t require much effort as he was nowhere near the barcas last men, I don’t know what kind of system they had deployed he was miles out of play (not offside) but you would get the sense he was….
The rantboys journey all the ways to winning the CL has been one huge fluke, same can be said of torres record
I was quite shocked when I heard his stats, I don’t know if we can rely on but if true oh boy…
Don’t see how anyone can make a direct comparison between Young and Kagawa,Kagawa isn’t a left winger.So to say a full form Kagawa brings more to the club than a full form Young doesn’t make any sense to me,would play in different formations.I’d want Young as Utd’s left winger over Kagawa if that’s the formation Utd were playing
Apologies my last comment was aimed to @FletchTHEMAN
I think Kagawa is getting the Wilshere syndrome. The longer he is out the bigger the expectation. Not in anyway playing down Kagawa’s ability, but we have yet to see what he is capable of, and we have not been using him properly for starters.
Comparing Kagawa & Young is silly. One is an attacking midfielder the other is a winger, they do different things.
Proverb. Agreed. . . You’ll be shocked to know that Torres come in the top 10 of world football players in a recent AP poll:
AP Top 10 (voter points)
1. Messi(170pts) 2.Falcao (169) 3.Rooney (120) 4.Oezil(98) 5.Totti (67) 6.Torres(65) 7.van Persie (44)
One positive is that United are the only team with 2 in the top 10
United also top team by a margin in the same poll. Ha!
http://msn.foxsports.com/foxsoccer/soccer/story/Peerless-Messi-stays-top-of-AP-rankings-22952029
Like @samuel – united WE stand we must not stand players down for the other
Kags and ash are two completely different players therefore we shouldn’t be comparing the two, both possess different qualities and a equally considered by the club, kags is way more creative but lacks defensive qualities while young can do abit of both and still nod in some vital goals, so I’d say both are better in their respective positions, that’s about that no need to bring the other to his knees in favor of the other
The fact that both play in completely different roles makes this a utterly pathetic argument
Wayne
Still not justification enough to disregard it.
Just my opinion but possession football is here to stay look at the players we’re grooming.
Is suggest we need more of it ourselves seeing that we don’t seem to like defending these days. It’d either that or a strictly counter attacking game.
Wouldn’t be surprised if pool had the ball in their own half for most of the game. That’s not possession football that’s a toothless side,nothing more. A team that bases its game on wingplay (or any system for that matter) that can’t get crosses in doesn’t mean wingplay is overrated or crap, its just not being put Into practice properly.
Possession football without penetration-as you put it is not possession football its just fannying about
slim lol ok mate well most of the pundits call it possession football not saying disregard it just seems to be the most talked about in football at the moment and managers like Brendan Rodgers get a lot of praise as the new wave.
My point is and as you pointed out it’s fannying about without the end result as the Dippers and Le Arse are proving this season.Imo the most over talked,overrated thing in football at the moment like you said no formation works without the right personell
Its really amazing, he’s even ahead of RVP, imo this stats has to be influenced by his past self at liverpool cause currently he’s a total shadow of himself, van persie’s general contribution to club and country has by far been better, you can’t even attempt at comparisons as there is a visible gap in quality between to two
At chelsea he has done fuck all, its really amazing
Rvp and clevs goals are fantastic.nice game though but i have never been angry with valencia.guys i have to say av7 made the game very frustrating in the second half.and it’s was so infuriating that i almost cried when the game ended.hope he will make up for that mess next week
Jesus wept it just keeps getting worse,fucking idiots
wayne
In all honestly I would prefer to play with kagawa than with young. So if you read my post you will notice that I myself said Kagawa should not play as a winger but as a left attacking midfielder.
Ash mate i was just saying not fair comparing the 2,if Utd use a formation with wingers Young would be the preferred option.Two different type of players chalk and cheese so to speak
wayne
I know mate its hard to compare between these two but there will be time (I really hope) when we may have every player fit. So at that moment we have to pick our best players. In that regard I will pick Kagawa over young. I have nothing against young. I am loving the way he has been proving his critics wrong in last few matches but kagawa adds a little more. Or kagawa could replace cleverly as a central attacking midfielder . Honestly I won’t prefer that.