VIDEO: Van Persie, Kagawa and Rafael’s Goals vs Fulham

August 25, 2012 54 Comments

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August 25, 2012 at 18:05
Robin Van Priceless says:
Great goals by the new boys. Hope Wayne is not too bad.
August 25, 2012 at 18:07
EricCantonaToldMeToTweet says:
4 weeks for Wayne.
August 25, 2012 at 18:09
Robin Van Priceless says:
Great another one in the sick bay. At least not a defender this time
August 25, 2012 at 18:20
Dela says:
are the chelsea fans singing what i think they are or am i hearing it wrong??? “you know what you are, you know what you are… you black bastard… you know what you are?”

Or are they saying something else and I’m just hearing that because of the Anton Ferdinand thing?
August 25, 2012 at 18:24
samuel - united WE stand says:
Spoke about VanPersie’s thunder left foot, he’s probably the most technically gifted forward united have. Great strike, the 90mins he got today will go some way to help him return to his sharp best. United need to utilize him more though, we focus too much on the wing, valencia and young could do with adding variety to their game.

Kagawa seems to have slotted in well. deft Touch, intelligence, drive and vision, looking like he’s settling well.

Rafael is obviously back to prove a point and played very well whilst grabbing a goal, still needs to keep concentration at a maximum for 90mins.

All in all, it was a mixed performance. We still look patched up at the back, defenders returning and Carrick returning to his midfield role will help.
August 25, 2012 at 18:28
dazzer says:
Wayne’s gash was a nasty one. 4 weeks. The blow is softened by the presence of Van Persie
August 25, 2012 at 18:29
Redbilly says:
Three fantastic goals still outweigh the howlers. Fast one touch passing from a team who still need to fully gel together. Kagawa , in my opinion , could gave one hell if a season. RVP. Goal fantastic.
August 25, 2012 at 18:31
Jigpig says:
Great performance much improved from Monday. The injury to Wayne looked really bad but let’s hope he’s ok.
August 25, 2012 at 18:32
Robbo 66 says:
Rafael is good going forward, but absolutely rubbish in defending. Pls get him off. Seriously. Grow up and do some decent defending will ya.
August 25, 2012 at 18:33
Busby babes says:
still would like to see a bit more bite in midfield, but i suppose when defenders return that then enables carrick to move back into is natural postion, which will provide more solidarity in that department, with regards to rafael i love that tenacious aspect he has to his game, can be a bit eratic at times but love his enthuseasum
August 25, 2012 at 18:35
Iversen says:
Who other than RVP scores those goals?
August 25, 2012 at 18:36
medumtum says:
Have to say am slightly reassured by todays performance. The rust seemed to come off a little bit more, passing was fluid, rooney was correctly dropped and midfield moving forward had pace and incisiveness, a far cry from Goodison. More tactical complexity to our formation as well. Van persie scored and we will hopefully figure out how to integrate him more from our wing play as well as the movement through the center. there were a couple of times when he took up excellent positions but nobody was willing to put him through. Dembele honestly seemed to look a better player than he is, not that he isnt a fine player, but just that couldnt help thinking that many of his “superb” runs were a consequence of naive defending. Any proper tackler and he would have been stopped in his tracks, and if keano were around…well no use dwelling on that. The second half highlighted the best and worst of DeGea, he has been here for a while now and its fair to assess him at this point. Fantastic shot stopper, beautiful reaction saves particularly the open net before cross bar was hit, but the crosses continue to bother him. Also in such situation it seems that defenders either do not trust him, or he is unsure, something that between Vidic and himself needs to be sorted. Yes our midfield is a bit of a pushover but that has been a chronic problem secondary to injuries and i think we will be able to assess it correctly once carrick slots back into his rightful place and we have two centre halves in the back four. Have to say when i saw the subs coming on was a little shocked but the way giggsy just shored up midfield not to mention his seamless tackling reminded me that Fergie does know better. And it wasn’t us shutting off in the second half, it was us defending a lead following a soft goal which last season we were struggling with. Rooney getting injured is a concern, but this is probably the best time for it. Fantastic new signings considering it ususally takes a while for new team members to settle in. The future looks red.
August 25, 2012 at 18:38
#07 says:
So happy to be a United fan right now. Shame about Wayne but with the rest of the attack in this form I’m sure we can keep it going til he’s back to full fitness.

Personally I’d play him in the David Villa role down the left behind Van Persie alongside Kagawa down the middle and Valencia down the right in a 4-2-3-1. Don’t think you can make a case for moving Shinji or RVP from the positions they started in today.
August 25, 2012 at 18:42
FletchTHEMAN says:
RvP class!
August 25, 2012 at 18:47
Devil310 says:
3 Points is what matters….lots of positives to take out from the game. But most importantly, I think today we saw one of the many United formations available to us this season. For instance, we could rest Kagawa, play Carrick and Scholes in the middle, and go out with our usual 4-4-2. We could also play our 2008 4-3-3 with 2 wide attacking wingers providing crosses to that central striker. We could be more aggressive and play with 2 strikers and Kagawa right behind them. All really possible options from an attacking perspective.

I think that’s what SAF was looking for. We were too one dimensional last season, now we can alternate formations, rotate more efficiently, and set up more strategically depending on the opposition.

Great and exiting year ahead for sure
August 25, 2012 at 19:19
Costas says:
Rafa our most dangerous player by far, lol. Good first game as the official Gary Neville replacement. Lets hope he starts playing with more composure.
August 25, 2012 at 19:26
Devil310 says:
RvP post match interview with Sky

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/8018168?
August 25, 2012 at 19:49
denton davey says:
Costas @ 19:19: “Rafa our most dangerous player by far, lol. Good first game as the official Gary Neville replacement.”

Belting match from the little tiger; best UTD player on the pitch.
August 25, 2012 at 19:53
denton davey says:
medumtum @ 18:36: “our midfield is a bit of a pushover”

In terms of yesterday’s style of play, that’s true but UTD are evolving into a different method. The swarming defence with ball-players rather than a “designated destroyer”. From what I watched. YoungTom and Anderson did well and little Rafael was outstanding.
August 25, 2012 at 20:21
CobhamHood says:
@Dela: Its the evil in you that’s hearing those chants. You just want to hear that and malign our fans.
August 25, 2012 at 20:43
lordrt says:
Hope Rooney is back soon despite being announced as 4 weeks out for him. But this can give Berbatov a run in the squad as well and who knows may be he and RvP could strike up gold for the team
Pity thou SAF said no more signings, we could do better if he had made a bid for Dembele, the lad impressed with his skills to keep the ball and work from one box to the other tirelessly (what’s with these Belgium guys btw, Fellaini, Dembele, Hazard and others not coming to mind right now, they are just strolling on for their respective teams right now, Hazard being the most impressive with so many assists already and I watched the chelski game and he was instrumental in their win once again)
August 25, 2012 at 21:15
MR. ROONEY says:
we need to focus on RVP if we want to succeed and forget i am the scorer
August 25, 2012 at 21:24
samuel - united WE stand says:
Obsessive rent-boy, why aren’t you on the board of the “Project” club.
August 25, 2012 at 21:25
Hans says:
Great goals, but we should have had at least another 3!!!!!

After 4:4 against Everton last season, I thought that we had learned the lesson. We should kill teams off. Why taking it too easy after a two goal advantage? Sloppiness cost us last season, and despite Carrick at CB, lads should not be putting themselves and us through hell.

I hope Rooney is a fast healer. Luckily we have enough strikers. I hope Evans is fit for next match.

Rent boys look decent this season (I suppose any team who gets three penalties in first three matches would?!) but if we win all our September matches, we will be in a strong position.

Fergie would do well to bring Dembele to OT.
August 25, 2012 at 21:28
samuel - united WE stand says:
Denton – i did feel rafael would return from brazil with a point to prove. He got all the blame when brazil lost the game, that might be a blessing in disguise and he’ll finally nail down that position. He still has lapses of concentration which i feel when he hopefully irons it out, he’ll one top right back.
August 25, 2012 at 21:37
Red Keighley says:
Good win today. A little nervy at 3-2 as we felt this is going to turn into a repeat of Everton last season. Van Persie and Kagawa were great and Tony V a constant threat down the right. But what is still missing is a powerhouse in midfield to break up the opposition play and give us some steel – we saw it today in Dembele – what a fucking player! He will sort our Hazard and Toure – lets sign him up! Surely £12m-£15m would be great value. What the fuck has Anderson being doing to his thighs – looks like he has been squatting 100kgs in the gym!
August 25, 2012 at 21:48
samuel - united WE stand says:
Let me guess, dean whitehead would be suggested as a acquisition next as he’s a hard man…

Anyway, united need centre backs and not Carrick. Have to be more compact and solid at the back, giving away silly chances to teams but i can visualize what FERGIE is trying to do. Play with midfielders who all have composure and can keep the ball ticking, it’s important to control games. As much there’s a couple of negatives, the positives are also there, united could do better.
August 25, 2012 at 22:13
Red Keighley says:
samuel – united WE stand says: You are completely missing the point! Dembele is clearly a class player. We have no one of that type in our midfield at the moment. I’m not looking for a hard man, what we need is someone to successfully defend the back 4 and then go on surging runs into then oppositions penalty area – Dembele did this regularly today. We dont need centre backs we just need them to get fit – we already have 5 how many do you want?
August 25, 2012 at 22:14
alfREDo says:
Hope Rafa keeps his focus and kicks on from this now!
He even looks good in the number 2 jersey too!!
August 25, 2012 at 22:21
shakshamboo says:
Welcome back evra. Buttner signing has done the trick I assume.
August 25, 2012 at 22:44
Frankie says:
Dembele is a monster of a player. He could be the diference for winning the Premiership.
August 25, 2012 at 22:45
50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:
My Red Nuts are tingling! The mojo is in full flow! To St Mary’s, Robin! Holy moly Batman! Won’t that joker Ricky Lambert be a thorn in our side? Don’t worry Robin…….i have a cunning plan!
August 25, 2012 at 22:47
50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:
Kagpow!!
August 25, 2012 at 23:34
Denton Davey says:
About Dembele – where are the players who told SAF to sign up CR7 ? The guy was much more impressive than Felaini, who is a very big awkward man but nowhere near as skilled as his fellow-Belgian – not quite a “replacement” for DarrenFletcherinho but a bit of a football genius in his own right.
August 26, 2012 at 01:07
DreadedRed says:
I am bemused that every time we don’t dominate a match from start to finish, United fans start lusting after the players we just played against. What the fuck is that?

Anyway, Dembele wouldn’t have looked as good had we Carrick in front of Vidic and Rio.
August 26, 2012 at 04:09
Marq says:
Belgium have quite a formidable midfield huh, Fellaini, Dembele, Hazard & Witsel

Hazard has been playing very well, very direct, like Ronaldo. Not saying he is anywhere near Ron’s level, but Rafael is going to have to be at his best to stop him, not to mention watch the tackles, seeing how he has already won 2 penalties
August 26, 2012 at 04:25
medumtum says:
@Denton Davey 19 53 re midfield evolution. Agree with your assessment actually, but this evolution is a work in progress, and certainly while tom was able to get in some wonderful tackles and interceptions feel anderson was too easily shrugged off. More significantly though i think we’ll get a truer idea of the effectiveness of the midfield when theres a proper defender at the back. And Giggsy coming on showed what a few well timed tackles could do to those vaunted forward runs of dembele. Agree though it was definitely a promising midfield performance. Love Rafa, fearless and passionate.
August 26, 2012 at 06:27
CJ7 says:
Dread
I assume you only watch Utd games…Dembele actually is a very decent player,would fit in at Utd because he has all right qualities…can tackle,strong on the ball,good striker of the ball and can carry the ball into the opposition box. Having said that…i’m not saying Fergie should sign him…just that in my opinion he is a good player. Give credit where its due.
August 26, 2012 at 07:53
StatesideAussie says:
Given our makeshift defense, I thought we played well. I was very encouraged, especially by the first half. At the start of last season, when we played dynamic free-flowing football for a handful of matches, I started to form the opinion that TC and Ando are a great match, and what I saw today supports that. There’s something about TC’s game that seems to bring the best out in Ando.

If Kagawa can keep it up, he’ll be a regular. He can be pushed off the ball a bit easily for my liking (I noticed this too when he played for Japan against Australia a while back), but his movement and vision are terrific.

As for RVP, I’ve been vocal about my opposition to buying a 29-year-old striker with no resale value, largely because it exposes the tripe we’ve been fed as excuses for not buying players like Wee Wes: all that nonsense about a “policy” of not buying players over 27 was just that: nonsense. I also concerned about the possible impact of his arrival on the youngsters Welbeck and Hernandez. I never doubted the Dutchman’s quality though, and we saw that today. Interesting that Rooney was dropped to make way for him, and now that Rooney’s going to be sidelined for a bit, will be interesting to see RVP stake his claim (and maybe get some time with either Danny or Chicharito). For what it’s worth, I think he would work well with the Little Pea.

I would like to see Nani in this mix too. Like Denton, I believe we’re moving towards a different style of play. Once Carrick can get back to his regular role, I think we’ll see him as the anchor, sitting in front of the back four, with the remaining out-field players forming a mobile group in front of him, lots of free-roaming rotation, where designated “positions” are mostly nominal. The sooner that happens, the better, imo.
August 26, 2012 at 08:37
danielandthebus says:
RE: Ando. I agree with your thoughts on him and TC, seem to be a great pair. Ando is prolly just much more relaxed and motivated at the same time playing along side someone about his age.

Thoughts on the game was that, despite the first early goal, United really looked pretty good going forward, and I’m liking this starting line up, really enjoyed the match last night and I am glad we won that. Few slip ups but meh, team played well together… looking forward to the next match!
August 26, 2012 at 09:03
StatesideAussie says:
@lordrt … yeah, I wouldn’t mind seeing RVP and Berbatov get a run together. I’ve long maintained that the “problem” with Berbatov isn’t the player himself, it’s that he and Rooney can’t seem to “read” each other. And I mean that both ways around: he can’t read Rooney, and Rooney can’t read him. Let’s see what happens.
August 26, 2012 at 10:58
Arjunited says:
This quote by the Gaffer is doing the rounds.

“If I hear a player has fallen out of love with us, and is looking elsewhere I invariably help them out of the door.”

Who is Fergie talking about?
August 26, 2012 at 11:21
DreadedRed says:
CJ7 – I watch various games, primarily United of course.

That’s hardly relevant to my point. Lusting after players that do well against us is poor.
If only we had him, we’d be unbeatable, magnificent, whatever. Ridiculous.

We have a great squad. Wanting a particular player is one thing, wanting our recent opposition’s best player is quite another. It’s shallow, spoilt, demanding and puerile.

If we struggle in our next match, some Reds will lust after the players that put us to the sword.

Shallow!
August 26, 2012 at 11:38
RedBorneo says:
Carrick moves like a bitch.. i dont wont see him on pitch again.
Why fergie not trust in Wotton to play alongside Vida..?
August 26, 2012 at 12:10
Brooka says:
Red Borneo…there appears to be only one ‘bitch’ on here.

Sitting in the Stretty yesterday, me and the lads all started to form the same opinion when Rooney and Welbeck came on…that Fergie may be tempted to try and keep everyone happy at times to the detriment of the team. The idea of a fluid front three sounds good in theory, but at times yesterday it just meant that Van Persie was isolated and we didn’t get numbers in the box when the ball went out wide. The tempo of our play was certainly quicker at times and there were positive signs that we will look to dominate possession in games, even more so than usual. The same old failings of taking our foot off the gas nearly led to our downfall but I’ll take a win for now.

One other thing is nagging me…does anyone else agree that this pre-season ,with the extended travel for one game etc, has led to us looking extremely sluggish? Our players just do not seem match fit and I don’t think we had enough pre-season games. For once I can’t wait for the international break, hopefully after bagging another win at St Marys, when the lads that have been playing are closer to being up to speed and those injured are nearer returning. Mind you, there does not seem to be a game without a Utd player getting injured and sadly it’s been that way for a while.
August 26, 2012 at 14:44
The One says:
DreadedRed, spot on pal!!

Anyway, these guys could just be playing the games of their lives when they’re up against us, so no big deal. This has always been the case. Besides, why is Belgium, having these trio of supposedly super midfielders, still not a top notch European powerhouse?
August 26, 2012 at 18:26
Adam says:
We need to cut out that constant scripted wing play sooner than later and start marching through the middle.
Need to feed the ball through more instead of looking wide most of the time – when we get to the middle of the park, it’s too predictable what we’re going to do next..again wide to TV up and over (or attempted over if to Nani) This will not utilize RVP/Kagawa to their full potential.

I’m glad we went with what I hoped for RVP / Kagawa. I do agree that we are still too sluggish and disinterested in parts of the match. RVP/Chicha is what I’d like to see next.
I think the top will be very tight this year and I don’t think we’ll have the luxury of losing 5 games and still be at the top.
August 26, 2012 at 19:58
MarkoWire says:
Glad RVP scored and to be fair it was a great goal. Also Kagawa is looking red hot. Great signing. But its not the greatest start to the season we wanted. I put that down to us having 4 defenders out and putting carrick in defence. Still slightly worried with our midfield. If we get out powered like we did again Everton then our attack is useless. Fergie says he has finished in the transfer market but I am wondering if he is going to sneek in for Dembele and sell Ando to Spurs??
August 26, 2012 at 21:10
mara says:
RVP goal was world class…we just need one more player in middle…either one more very good playmaker that can mask our defence problem or one good DM….
August 26, 2012 at 23:50
markyboy says:
watched the game again that evening on irish tv and kenny cunningham is 100% convinced the gash rooney recieved was deliberate..in kennys own words ” he did rooney there rooney tried to foul him but came out worse” i think myself he did intentionally injure rooney
August 27, 2012 at 10:47
CJ7 says:
Dreadedred
Did i say Fergie should sign him up? I read somewhere UTD made a very low offer for him(not sure if its true), that must mean Fergie also see him as a talent. I agree with some of your post and that we already have a great squad, but like most fans and football minds alike, can see that our central-midfield is missing a midfielder that can dominate the game. I can think of a lot of games where this problem were exposed by certain teams. I get that UTD can’t sign every player, but too suggest a fellow fan is shallow for saying a certain player is class, is also pretty shallow in my opinion.
August 27, 2012 at 11:36
DreadedRed says:
CJ7

Why are you asking me to identify what you said?

Your opinion on what may be shallow holds no interest to me. For example, I don’t care if you think that buying a toasted sandwich is shallow. I also don’t care if you think it’s shallow to wear a seatbelt. Similarly, your description at 10:47 of shallowness bears no relevance to my expressed views.

I said:
“We have a great squad. Wanting a particular player is one thing, wanting our recent opposition’s best player is quite another. It’s shallow, spoilt, demanding and puerile.”

I did NOT say:
“a fan is shallow for saying a certain player is class”

That you think I did say it, seems unlikely.
To describe something I did not say as “shallow”, is quite shallow.

That’s enough depth on shallowness for now, I’m sure you agree.
August 27, 2012 at 18:02
CJ7 says:
Whatever mate i don’t have time for this bullshit… oops that must be shallow.
August 27, 2012 at 18:56
DreadedRed says:
CJ7

You addressed me. I responded.

You then addressed me again (rudely this time), I responded once more.

Now you claim to not have time for the conversation.

Pathetic.

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