VIDEO: Welbeck, Anderson and Rooney goals vs Spurs

August 23, 2011 69 Comments

Author: Scott Filed Under Anderson, Danny Welbeck, Match Day, Video, Wayne Rooney

69 Comments

August 23, 2011 at 09:37
gazmask says:
1st!!

2nd goal i came a little
August 23, 2011 at 09:42
eddieTheRed says:
Great goals; nice to know we can play like that against a decent opponent; I wouldn’t mind seeing a few clips of Phil Jones blocks in the game though; I thought he was outstanding last night!
August 23, 2011 at 09:44
R3D COLOUR says:
RedScot
Where’s the QUICK REACTIONS?
August 23, 2011 at 09:45
parryheid says:
Three quality goals in a good allround performance.
August 23, 2011 at 09:48
Macheda is GOD says:
Wonderful performance again!
August 23, 2011 at 09:50
Red1990 says:
Now the ABU cunts will be silent until our next game. Good to see De Gea had a clean sheet, and wonderful performance by everyone especially Welbeck, Jones, Evans and Smalling
August 23, 2011 at 09:51
Bohemet says:
Cleverley brought back memories of Becks with that ball to Welbeck. That second goal, what can you say, pure class all the way from de Gea to Anderson

The future is bright, the future is red
August 23, 2011 at 09:52
ScholesForGoals says:
Incredible performance by Fergie’s fledglings… Such a promising start this early. Really looking forward to the Arse game at OT this weekend, with this flair, with this level of confidence, i have no doubt this is another Fergie masterstroke.

In United and Fergie i trust. GGMU
August 23, 2011 at 09:56
Costas says:
Ando has to learn how to celebrate properly.
August 23, 2011 at 09:57
gerkeo says:
I don’t see why because de gea is young and new to the pl that its ok to kick the shite out of him. Defoe could have got red, could easily have broken the keepers arm, van der vart should have been booked, last week vrs wba the challenges were over the top on him. Ridiculous.
August 23, 2011 at 10:06
Costas says:
@gerkeo

Spot on. One of the colour commentators (I think Alan Smith), said that he has to get used to that in England. Get used to what? Risk breaking his arm every game?
August 23, 2011 at 10:09
Marq says:
Someone teach Anderson how to do a proper celebration please…
August 23, 2011 at 10:09
romeo says:
I have just read that Wenger said that we are still in for Nasri! Do you think we need him really?
I dont think so. Last season we lacked some flair in the midfield area which we have now! We still got the likes of Fletcher and Carrick whose roles are completely different and essential in some games.
Cleverley is class and Anderson is on the right track. I personnally don’t think we need Nasri or Sneijder. I would sacrifice our immediate chances in Europe (as some claim we are unable to win the CL although I am convinced we are good enough) if that means the likes of Cleverley and Anderson get the chance to get to the next level!
August 23, 2011 at 10:15
ancha says:
Costas

good morning

I heard that on Sky commentary, that was a RED, it was at a time of the game when it was almost irrelevant to the outcome
if Defoe got sent off, the ABUs would have got some firepower atleast to get back on us, by discussing that all day and ignoring the wonderful attacking display that we put on
and that’s the reason i didn’t complain much for not giving a RED
August 23, 2011 at 10:17
ancha says:
Am i the only one who liked Ando’s celebration
August 23, 2011 at 10:21
Costas says:
@ancha

Morning mate. I agree. And the other good thing out of that, was that David actually looked pissed off and stood up for himself. That’s something he’ll have to start doing on a regular basis since the Kevin Davieses of this league will try to bully him around.
August 23, 2011 at 10:41
parjo says:
It’s a different celebration, it’s not the native style of celebration, but it’s good.
August 23, 2011 at 10:47
Union Jack says:
A few things to consider from our victory against Spurs

1) Chuffed to bits for DDG. Had a great game and I’m sure it will do his confidence a world of good. it was good to see our boys passing the ball back to him, usually I dont like to see us passing backwards because we are so much better to watch when we are going forward but it shows solidarity and trust for our new keeper.

2) Danny welbeck, talk about game of 2 halves pretty bobbins first half but when he scored his goal he changed into a superstar. His confidence rocketted and he looked like a completely different player.

3) Ashley Young seems to improve with every game, the Red of United seems to suit his style of play. He is so Industrious, never stops running plays his heart out. another great buy for SAF.

4) An exceptionally solid performance from a still pretty young defence (and not so young Paddy Evra)

5) TC and Ando were strong in Midfield (maybe we don’t need to go shopping for dutch goods in Italy after all)

6) Look at Rooney,must be Samson in disguise. New hair seems to have made him stronger.

7) Welcome back Chicharito. Only a cameo performance but its good to see him back on the pitch.

One of the things I most miss about OT since giving up my season ticket is the banter between our fans and the away fans, fortunately last night coverage had crystal clear sound and I’m sad to say that spuds seemed to get the better of us on a few occasions, most notably:

-”Your just a shit Michael Jackson” sung at Nani
and
- “your just a shit Arron Lennon” sung at Ashley Young

well done to all the squad I think we are looking good for the rest of the season and beyond
August 23, 2011 at 10:53
Union Jack says:
If you were there last night and heard some of our chants getting the better of them please prove me wrong cause I hate thinking they beat us in any way.maybe our chants were just not as clear as thiers
August 23, 2011 at 11:08
bobbycharlie1968 says:
Fucking hell lads, we have THE most talented group of youngsters since Scholesy Becks Neville Butt Giggsy and P Neville. Welbeck, Cleverley, Anderson, Jones, Smalling, Evans, not to mention the Da Silvas and Pogba, Morrison and Tunnicliffe…I fucking love them all. It was a real privilege to watch United win last night. It was great football. Jones is fucking immense! We should keep him in his place until he loses form, not until Rio or Vida is back. I’m so excited about the future. Wesley who? has been doing the rounds and I’m not surprised, Cleverley is the future of this club, and of English football. And what can you say about Ashley Young as well? He’s a tremendous talent and has taken like a duck to water. Fantastic. And Wayne really has taken his game to a new level I think, such great dribbling last night was the lasting impression. I’m so proud of our lads, and I’m so excited at this new team coming through. Think about the bitters down the road, yes they’re ejaculating a bit too early, but not without reason. However, I would always, ALWAYS rather take home grown talent over foreign imports. Especially when your club is so small no one outside of Stockport let alone England has heard of you. So yes you bitter blue cunts, laud Aguero for one good performance, let’s see if he sticks around though. Whereas we have our homemade star in Cleverley. Not to mention Super Danny Welbeck. They bleed red. Aguero bleeds money. We instill class into the club and our players. They instill greed and disunity (despite calling they’re stadium the United stadium – thick jealous morons). We are United, a word that evokes unity, passion, dedication, desire, a willingness to throw your neck on the line for the team, a symbol of defiance to quote the excellent MG. City, makes you think of the City and those bankers who have fucked up our society, which is actually exactly what City have done to football. How can we be the only ones to see that this is good vs evil???? Seriously, the mind boggles at how anyone can view City as a good team, good club, good anything. If people let go of their jealously from us winning title after title after title, they would no doubt favour City. A lot of my friends who don’t support either want United to win because they don’t like what City have done. It’s nice to see that. Because City deserve fuck all. What the fuck have they ever done to merit that Arab takeover? And then they swagger around throwing their weight about as if they’re that horrible cunt down the pub who won’t shut up about the countless birds he’s shagged with his apparently 12 incher, before going home and crying over his McDonalds chip sized fallus. Most City fans I know are cunts. Keyword there being most because I know some who, whilst fucking deluded when it comes to football, are actually alright people. The rest are such horrible bastards, really horrible fuckwits of the human race. And that is why we have to fucking destroy them this year, home and away and in Europe. It is light side against dark side, good against evil, dignity against fallacy, unity against discord, UNITED vs shitty.

Got a bit carried away there, COME ON YOU REDS!
August 23, 2011 at 11:27
Norm187 says:
My favourite moment was when jones crunched bale early on, bale went down looking for a pen jones told him to get the fuck up, he look like the preverbial brick outhouse & he can play abit too. Young was class as well was sceptical of us buying him at first but fergie the master as ever
August 23, 2011 at 11:40
kungfoocantona says:
cant believe i missed the fucking match. 1st time since i can remember, had to go of flashscore..hate workin abroad…

chuffed to bits great result and great 2nd half performance from the young lads AGAIN i must say.

how did de gea do? chuffed the kid kept a clean sheet.
August 23, 2011 at 11:50
0161-Jon says:
Jones was CLASS!!

Anderson was CLASS!!

Wellbeck was CLASS!!

The rest of the team were all great too.

VERY happy
August 23, 2011 at 12:00
lordrt says:
Great performance in that 2nd half, hope they keep it up for the crucial games to come, but SAF will definitely have a headache, who to play upfront, Chicha is back, Welbeck is turning opposition defenders inside out, Berbatov (golden boots) is yet to start his new season in the starting 11, Owen is not being seen as well, Macheda and Diouf also still available. May be could start to train some of them lads into other positions as well, like wingers or midfielders
August 23, 2011 at 12:02
bobkoh says:
This is the next team that Sir Alex built. It has crept up on us & now it is here & now! GGMU.
August 23, 2011 at 12:10
sleeksam says:
lol
cant forget dat Welbeck back heel pass to Ando in a hurry
and dat DDG dunkin of VDV in rush too
Defoe needs a Jones to Bale treatment nxt time he tries stampin on his GK again.
THE RED FAMILY MATCHES ON TO THE 20th EPL TITLE
GGMU.lol
cant forget dat Welbeck back heel pass to Ando in a hurry
and dat DDG dunkin of VDV in rush too
Defoe needs a Jones to Bale treatment nxt time he tries stampin on his GK again.
THE RED FAMILY MATCHES ON TO THE 20th EPL TITLE
GGMU.
August 23, 2011 at 12:21
wayne says:
Morning Reds i have to disagree with everyone saying Berba is the 4th striker,all we know Rooney is number 1 even if he plays poorly,think alot of lads are getting way to carried away after 2 games about who’s going to play and who isn’t.Unless Sir Alex changes what he’s been doing for years he’ll always utilise the squad.

If you look at (Dimitar) Berbatov, Owen, (Javier) Hernandez and (Wayne) Rooney, they all have different qualities,” Ferguson said. “You have to utilise all that and make changes as best you can. The horrible part for me now is with having Javier back, what do we do? It is going to be a big problem for me

this quote from Sir Alex suggests to me he hasn’t written off Berba,maybe i’m the deluded one but i rate Berba very highly and still think he has a part to play.
August 23, 2011 at 12:49
sleeksam says:
i agree wit u mate
berba is still in SAF plans
but in terms of current form
he’s dwn d peckin order.i agree wit u mate
berba is still in SAF plans
but in terms of current form
he’s dwn d peckin order.
August 23, 2011 at 12:54
King Eric says:
Fuck me. United handimg out free Champions scarves on every seat last night.

Phil Jones will be a United legend. What a player.
August 23, 2011 at 12:58
King Eric says:
Union Jack – Generally a quiet night but some chants of “Champions league, you’re having a lauugh ” and the usual ” Thursday nights channel five”. At times OT can be a bit quiet but a good rendition of Build a bonfire.
August 23, 2011 at 13:01
smartalex says:
Great goals lads! A strong victory from the 2nd youngest ever Prem starting line-up for United. We didn’t even have the twins or Hernandez starting, so the present and the future seem likely to be as glorious as the past for Manchester United.

Come on United!
August 23, 2011 at 13:11
Ironbrand says:
Our performance of last night seems too good to be true. No club in the world now that wudnt even United and our future. In all my fantasies, I can’t see how we going to do with our strikers. Revert back to the ’99 ways? Cole/Yorke…Sheringham/Solksjaer. Rooney/Welbeck…Chicarito/Berbatov. The other strikers coming in as substistutes. Plenty time for ‘em boys to take a rest and be injury free from wear and tear. My neighbours thought me a looney last night from my screaming with excitement especially at the second half. You guys have no idea how I feel. My heart feels like bursting, just remembering the game. Got two new beautiful lassies, converted from Le Arse to United just from watching our last two games and theirs. Who can blame them for loving superior football. I love Manchester United even after I die!
August 23, 2011 at 13:15
Balaji Sivaraman says:
If such a thing as immortality exists, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone but Sir Alexander Chapman Ferguson.

What a manager. What a human being. What a club. What a life.

Watching Tom and Danny shine, with the knowledge that we’ve got Morrison, Pogba, Tunnicliffe, Brown, De Laet and more waiting in the wings almost brings me to tears. That is what this club is all about.

Blessed is the life of a Manchester United fan!
August 23, 2011 at 13:20
Little Red Ant says:
Worth the wait – Tuesday morning is the new Monday morning this week !!!
August 23, 2011 at 13:33
Doghouse says:
Honestly, after the first half, I wanted to see Welbeck subbed. He just didn’t look sharp enough, and while he wasn’t bad, I mean we’ve got Chicha and Berbatov on the bench, you don’t have to just be adequate up front to sit those boys on the bench, you’ve got to be amazing, and I didn’t think Welbeck was. But you see the Gaffer, he knows best. He’s wise and he has faith in the lads, and Welbeck stayed on the field and became immense. We saw last night what is keeping Berbatov and Chicharito on the bench. What a player he is turning into.

You could look at our team against Spurs and not see a single player who had a wonky game. Everybody was close to perfect. People have slated Tottenham, but they played good football, they contested the midfield fairly and with skill and they defended well. They just could not maintain the pace. That’ll happen to a lot of teams at United. We’ll run them ragged then kill them off. Really looking forward to Arsenal because they are absolutely there to be had.
August 23, 2011 at 13:41
smashley-LFC fan in peace says:
Well what can i say, looks like Sir Alex has done it again! That boy Jones looks some player, as well as the other young lads. Sigh!!
August 23, 2011 at 13:43
Gary says:
I would warn against thinking Arsenal are there for the taking. We played them at home in September 2006 with Arsenal winless and United with 12 points out of 12 and ended up going down 1-0 to them so we should be on our guard.
August 23, 2011 at 13:45
willierednut says:
Compare the team they had in 2006 though. I agree slightly, they have to lose at the weekend. We still need to play on top form, to see them off.
August 23, 2011 at 13:55
Gary says:
Yes they’re not as strong as then but it’s a similar scenario and United still need to show them respect by being ruthless because Arsenal are still a top side and capable of turning anyone over. I have to echo the Liverpool fan above and Unites fans alike, it’s hard not be excited about Phil Jones. He has amazing potential, Rio’s position in the side is going to come under severe threat.
August 23, 2011 at 13:59
Costas says:
No doubt we have to be on our toes. Arsenal have a point to prove despite their absences. It will be interesting to see how Fergie lines up given our success while we play 4-5-1 against them.
August 23, 2011 at 14:01
bridgoldy says:
Wow!

What a game from Phil Jones – this guy is going to be INCREDIBLE. Shit, he’s only 19 and has such incredible composure on the ball and is ALWAYS in the right place. LOVE HIM! Best signing hands down.
Great to see Rooney in top form. The best!
And, let us not forget Chris Smalling – this kid is outrageous… I’m so impressed with him every time he gets a touch. Pure class.
Kudos to Cleverly and Ando – great games from them. (Although I though Clevs was a little lost in the 1st half)
I agree with someone above – Welbeck was a tale of 2 halves – as excellent as he was in the 2nd half, he was that shitty in the first. Way to stay with it and come out fighting.
Have to take issue with some of the fellas on this board – if you’re going to give De Gea a “great game” for this, you’re REALLY grasping at straws. This was NOT a great game for him – it just wasn’t a howler game for him. I’m not trashing him, I’m just not willing to overrate his performance to save his ego. He really still looks lost on too many shots or balls played into the box. I’m rooting for him to get his footing but still feel it’s a disservice to United to not give Lindegaard a shot. What’s the worst that’ll happen? Either Lindegaard sucks and we go back to DeGea or Lindegaard is great and we sell DeGea. Just give the guy a chance!
August 23, 2011 at 14:06
StatesideAussie says:
Well, the whole concept of 1st choice, 2nd choice etc at United is a little bit silly. Roo is obviously 1st choice — if SAF has a match where he wants only one striker, and Roo is available, then it will be him 99% of the time and we all know it. The others will be used as needed, depending on their particular attributes. Some will be used more than others. But that isn’t the same as having a prioritized hierarchy. Why not? Because in a hierarchy, guys “lower down” are only chosen when a guy above isn’t available or needs a rest. Whereas what Sir Alex is saying is that the choice depends on matching-up players depending on the opposition. In other words, horses for courses.
August 23, 2011 at 14:12
wayne says:
Any team in the prem has to be given respect but Gunners are in turmoil,confidence is low,Nasri leaving isn’t going to help that,quality of players isn’t good.Waiting for Van-Persie to put in a transfer request that would just about do it.
If they lose in midweek gunners in serious trouble,might have the money to spend but what top player will want to go there with no CL.
August 23, 2011 at 14:15
Union Jack says:
@ King Eric

Champ19ns scarves no doubt handed out to disguise any stray G&G scarves.
August 23, 2011 at 14:18
willierednut says:
I think if United go for them early, we might end up scoring a few goals. Early goal and they could collapse. Fergie would make too many changes, from the Spurs game, if any. Be interesting to see, how they set up. Wenger doesn’t have a lot of choices now. This game in Europe, might take something out of them as well.
August 23, 2011 at 14:29
Union Jack says:
Nasri confirmed as leaving L’Arse
August 23, 2011 at 14:38
bridgoldy says:
3 more points to make –

I’m a big Berba admirer, smaller fan, but this has got to stop. He has to be sold. And now, when we can get in the neighborhood of £10-15MM for him from PSG. The man was a sharer of the golden boot last year and now is behind Rooney, Chicha and Welbeck on the pecking order. (I know posters are trying to refute the pecking order concept, but there just IS one, and it’s a fact.) He has to go now.

Sneijder – do we need him? I’m really lost on this one…. The man is one of the best in the world. And while Cleverly and Ando have shown some good stuff, Fletch (mysterious illnesses) and Carrick (VERY inconsistent play) are unproven now – would it hurt to have Sneijder? Can Cleverly and Ando pour it on EVERY game? Are Park and Giggsy enough to spell them every so often?

Arsenal – I watched some of the game last week and was very impressed with their youngsters… I think a good purchase or 2 and they’re right back in it! DO NOT write them off.
August 23, 2011 at 14:45
StatesideAussie says:
bridgoldy … I don’t doubt that Sir Alex will give Lindegaard a go. The trouble is, that if he does it now, people will read too much into it. They’ll say he doesn’t trust de Gea. That’s the hole he’s in.
August 23, 2011 at 14:51
bridgoldy says:
Stateside – You don’t think SAF is stronger than that to rubbish the media? (BTW, where are you stateside? I’m in NYC)
August 23, 2011 at 15:08
FletchTHEMAN says:
Wonderful result, not the least of which was to get Arwy Rednose to SHUT THE F*CK UP!
We quite litterally dusted them in the second half. No ideas from them, no plan B. Bit sad really. Expect a different side altogether when we go down to the Lane. Think we were lucky that they didn’t go more negative then they did at the end. Defoe should have been red. That from an england man. Just not on!

Stateside/Bridgoldy Expect Linde in the cups. Could see him playing all the way to the finals, which we havn’t seen from a back up keeper in a couple of years. Credit to him and will take the pressure off.
August 23, 2011 at 15:20
StatesideAussie says:
bridgoldy … I’m in CA. I think SAF couldn’t give a hoot about the press, and rightly so. But I think he will be mindful of heaping any more pressure on de Gea than is necessary. Fortunately, de Gea doesn’t read much or even any English, but people will let him know. Plus there’s de Gea himself — even if Sir Alex tells him it’s simple rotation, he’ll have that nagging doubt in his mind somewhere. No, I think that Sir Alex is confident de Gea can settle down and prove himself over a few games, and he understands he value of allowing him to do that.

Indeed, much the same could be said of all the young guns. I would not be surprised if rotation is kept to a minimum over the next few weeks. First of all, these guys have done well enough so far, so why not let them continue? It ain’t broke, is it?

Secondly: Sir Alex is the lord and master of the rotation system. He pioneered it, and has used it more frequently, more deeply and better than anyone else. And we all saw he value of that last year. Yet Sir Alex will understand that the rotation system also imposes significantly greater demands on players — fitting in with different formations and combinations, trying to maintain their own when not playing constantly, all those things. Right now, these young guns have stepped up to the plate and down remarkably well. But adding rotation into the ix would be an extra burden on them. It may even be too much in some cases. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him stick with this basic team for a little while (just the occasional tweak). They’ve shown they can handle it, now let them settle down and get comfortable before starting to move the pieces around again.
August 23, 2011 at 15:21
StatesideAussie says:
oops, … meant to say : Right now, these young guns have stepped up to the plate and **done** remarkably well.
August 23, 2011 at 16:24
King Eric says:
Union Jack – Yes and rightly so. IMO and I may get slated those green and yellows have died a death. Good while it lasted but to wear one at the same time as buying tickets for the game is laughable. I like to see OT decked out in Red White and black not fucking green and gold. It looked fantastic last night in those colours.
August 23, 2011 at 16:26
King Eric says:
bridgoldy – sell De Gea if Lindergaard is good. Are you even serious pal? The kid is 20 and possibly our number 1 for the next decade. Why on earth would we sell him? I assume you were joking yeah?
August 23, 2011 at 16:28
King Eric says:
birdgoldy – Berba does not have to be sold at all. A season is a longtime and god forbid Wayne and Hernandez get injured at the same time we will need him. He aint going anywhere.
August 23, 2011 at 16:33
King Eric says:
Arsenal are fucking shit and not one of those youngsters will make it big. They will not be right back in it at all. Wenger is steering a rudderless ship, no direction or purpose anymore. He has had enough time to get things right but over the summer who has he bought? Another 17 year old winger from league one an 18 year old in Jenkinson who looks OK and that weird hairdo cunt Gervnho. Don’t know what game you were watching birdgoldy but they looked fuck all to me. They are finished . They are further away from the title than ever. All those saying Wenger will pull summat out of the hat are talking nonsense to be frank. He has had 6 years to pull summat from the hat yet fuck all has happened. They are clinging on to 3 league wins from a long time ago and all of a sudden are becoming very dipper like. Arsenal ‘s time under Wenger has gone IMO.
August 23, 2011 at 17:02
Mr C says:
The pecking order upfront? Berba, Chico, Welbeck, in that order. Quality and a proven hit rate has to mean something in terms of playing time. Danny played great 2nd half but it’s early days. If one misfires try another. Then another. And there are plenty of matches over the season for all 3. Competition for places is good anyway. If you were an opposition manager, in the PL or in Europe, whose names would you worry about about on the United team sheet? Chico, Berba…Berba, Chico…

No Rooney? That’s because I’d like to see him playing deeper supporting the front two, whoever they may be, as Rooney offers the workrate and the vision to make it work and he will get goals breaking through. We don’t need Sneijder or Nasri. Now all I have to do is convince SAF…!
August 23, 2011 at 17:03
bridgoldy says:
King Eric – I was giving extreme examples, and if Lindegaard is actually “that” good (meaning deserving of the #1 keeper spot at OT) then wouldn’t DeGea be relegated to a backup role? Would he stand for that? Can’t we afford to bring him along slowly?

I’m missing something here – when did DeGea get anointed the savior? There is not one person out there that can for sure say he will be the man. I’m just suggesting to give Lindegaard a shot and if, god forbid, he turns out to be awesome, well then, what do you do with DeGea?

And no, Berba does not HAVE to be sold this year. IMO he should be though… We have 6 strikers on the team and he is falling down the pecking order. Will he stand for that? At what point will he become a detriment to the overall psyche of the team? It has to happen – he’s a proud man and an excellent footballer – he will not be satisfied sitting on the bench. And, this is not to mention a possible chance to recoup as much of Utd.’s outlay on him as possible. The closer he gets to leaving on a free, the tighter United’s hands are tied.
August 23, 2011 at 17:08
willierednut says:
That’s not Fergie’s pecking order though. Hernandez, is clearly ahead of the Berb atm. Berbatov would be my 3rd choice. The manager thinks differently. Still see a role for him. Anything can happen during the season. A lot of games to be played. Injuries and loss of form, to contend with.
August 23, 2011 at 17:09
Dragonslayer says:
I think we will know whether the youngsters are up to the challenge once we can evaluate the overall team performance over Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal and Liverpool in the first half of this season. Besides, we have some CL matches. If the whole squad can keep up and perform most of the matches, we might be ready for another rematch with Barcelona. Now, it is too early to say anything.

IMHO, I think SAF doesn’t mind if Utd didn’t win CL or Premier League this year, he is willing to give them that time for the youngsters to develop into good players. But that doesn’t mean he is willing to give up the trophy without a fight. One year drought trading for another decade of success in Europe is definitely worth the wait. For this year, we would have to be patience for our youngster to develop, especially De Gea and our midfielders.

Arsenal losing so many good players is definitely bad sign for Wenger. Chelsea and City trying to beef up their team seems to be making them our top rival this season, besides, Barcelona and Real. I am not sure if we are really up for the CL challenge, but if there are players who has the spirit to win like United available in the market (not a mercenary), I think SAF should consider the option. It will bolster our force and give United more option when the team subjected to too many injuries.

Cheerz to United for doing well in the Totenham victory.
August 23, 2011 at 17:32
StatesideAussie says:
BirdGoldy … but why don’t you let Sir Alex about the “need” to recoup the club’s outlay on the Berb. You might think he hasn’t been good value, but without him last year, we would not have won #19. And you either don’t know or are ignoring the fact that the club has the option to extend his contract by one year whenever they like. He can leave on a free at the end of this season — but only if the cloub does not exercise that one-year option. It is a one-way option at the club’s discretion and is already wirtten into his contract. They can exercise it anytime they like, without his permission and without renegotiating with him. So even if the club decides they don’t want him next year, they can still invoke the extension and then he can’t leave on a free, see?

And according to the papers, Paris SG already tried to buy him this summer and Sir Alex told them to take a hike. As willie says, this is only the start of a long hard season and anything can happen. No one foresaw Rooney’s dreadful loss of form last season, or that whole transfer saga, until they happened. We were bloody glad to have Berbatov then, and he certainly did the business. There’ll be loss of form, injuries, suspensions and corwded schedules to deal with, so let’s just allow to Sir Alex to get on with it as he sees fit. If that means The Berb goes — then so be it. If it means he stays, then so be that, too.
August 23, 2011 at 18:03
Mr C says:
Lest we forget. No Berbs, no 20 goals, no 19.
August 23, 2011 at 18:18
Ironbrand says:
Mr C
August 23, 2011 – 18:03
Lest we forget. No Berbs, no 20 goals, no 19….Dead right on that, mate. You can ask the scousers for confirmation
August 23, 2011 at 18:23
StatesideAussie says:
And seven of them winning goals, too. That’s 21 points, right there.
August 23, 2011 at 19:01
The Scottish Wonder says:
@SA actually it is 14 points since you get 1 point for draw

but antways, Berba is great and he will be useful this season, we will play 50-60 games so we need a deep squad
August 23, 2011 at 19:23
bridgoldy says:
Alright… we’re MURDERING this dead horse.

Let me clarify one thing – in no way, shape or form did I suggest Berba wasn’t an integral part to our squad last year. (Not sure how you fellas were able to read that into my post but so be it.) All I’m saying is that, and I don’t think anyone can refute this, Berba has clearly fallen on the depth chart. Rooney is #1 (regardless of where he plays, he is the #1 STRIKER). Chicha is #2 (he has gotten the nod, when healthy, a lot more than anyone else). Welbeck has started the last 3 games in a row. Berba is #4. He is TOO good to be a #4 (and IMO a #2 or #3 as well), and I hope he will be okay with it. Do I think we need him? YES! I’m just worried about his mental makeup and, if his lack of playing time kills him, how long it’ll be before this becomes an issue.

As far as SAF recouping funds – do I care? Not really. Not my money. Would it have an positive impact on our ability to spend? I think it would, and that would be a positive, no?

And Stateside, I actually do know about the club option on Berba but what I’m suggesting is, while his value is still relatively high, if SAF really has him behind the other 3, wouldn’t it pay to sell high (or higher than it might be when he is 2 years older?)

Listen, these are hypotheticals – I just look over at Berbs on the bench (or him sobbing in the dressing room for the CL game) and see an unhappy man. Is he committed to stay and fight for his place? Yes. Is his fight subjective? Yes. SAF has the final say and so far it isn’t in his favor.
August 23, 2011 at 19:32
smartalex says:
Not to nag, but I’m getting hoarse from defending our Bulgarian stallion from those riding rough-shod over his inside straight. When the going gets tough, the Berb will get going.
August 24, 2011 at 04:54
TheRedsOfManchester says:
All the comments aim at DDG is bullshit. He had a clean sheet and people are still unhappy with his overall performance. I seem to remember shitty conceded two sloppy goals against bolton but no one seem to give a shit about the performance of the mighty fucking shitty HART! In my opinion, the press just want to see DDG failing to make the grade at OT so they can be proven right. BUT FUCK THAT, MAN UTD FANS WILL ALWAYS BACK OUR OWN PLAYERS AND NO DIFFERENCE TO DDG! Keep up the good work, fantastic performance from all lads!
August 25, 2011 at 21:29
denton davey says:
StateSideAussie @ 17:32: “according to the papers, Paris SG already tried to buy him this summer and Sir Alex told them to take a hike.”

I’m a day late on this so it’s unlikely that most people will have the patience to look at this thread BUT…

I think that what we need to know is not whether or not SAF told PSG to take a hike but the timing of his dismissal of their inquiry. My logic is that a month ago, Chicharito had a concussion and Danny Welbeck hadn’t proved himself in game action. That’s one scenario and, now, Chicharito is supposedly “over” his concussion and Danny Welbeck has lived up to the hype. So, that’s a very different scenario.

I don’t disagree with the “long season” argument; I don’t disagree with the options/rotation argument, either. What I do think is that if Dimmy isn’t going to be given regular game-time then he’ll stagnate. To me, the issue is 1: play the guy; or 2: take the money and run. I’m not sure that the middle-ground makes sense now – but, of course, in two/three/four/five weeks’ time the variables might be different. However, the logic of that line of thinking is a pretty clear recognition that Dimmy’s value is going to be as “insurance” and not as a first-team regular.

IF – and it’s a big “if” – they’re all happy with that “insurance role” then it’s a fantastic luxury – he might not be my cup-of-tea but there are situations when he could do-a-job (against Barcelona, it was a huge mistake not to have the option of putting him on the team-sheet).

In the final analysis, this is not how anyone wanted this situation to work out – even a confirmed BerbaSceptic like me was thrilled on that night in August three years ago when Dimmy put-pen-to-paper. Alas, he’s had more lows than highs in his three years at OT. Can he do better – much better ? I’m sceptical but I don’t have a crystal ball and cannot predict the future. Nor does anyone else.

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