VIDEO: Welbeck, Rooney, Young, Nani and Park Goals vs Arsenal

August 28, 2011 236 Comments

Manchester United – Arsenal 8:2 by FootballKing1892

Author: Scott Filed Under Ashley Young, Ji-Sung Park, Nani, Video, Wayne Rooney

236 Comments

August 28, 2011 at 19:55
akat says:
brilliant
August 28, 2011 at 19:56
Andooo says:
First…..Class!
August 28, 2011 at 20:00
Kings says:
Sensational performance. Well done lads.
August 28, 2011 at 20:01
Jocke says:
WOW, thank you SAF for bringing the future !!!
August 28, 2011 at 20:06
United4eva says:
Love it. Just love it.
August 28, 2011 at 20:13
Nydude says:
FCUK ME!!!!! I do feel for Whining Wenger but everyone forgets that United were truly class. Poetry in motion!!!!!
August 28, 2011 at 20:18
Warwick says:
Some stunning goals
August 28, 2011 at 20:19
kelvinchanpw says:
hope you’ll have a speedy recovery welback!
August 28, 2011 at 20:21
Red Harry4Life says:
WOW!!!!!

took the family to cinema yesterday and watched the movie SUPER 8 Do I have double vision?
August 28, 2011 at 20:23
StretfordEnd Ole says:
that was awesome today, it’s difficult to pick out 1 player who was better than the rest, so I won’t fantastic display by Manchester Utd, back where we belong ‘TOP OF THE LEAGUE’
August 28, 2011 at 20:31
Moses says:
I would 8-2 be an Arsenal fan now!
August 28, 2011 at 20:36
welbeck says:
welbeck was amazing tonite, but to be fair arsenal had 8 players out and i expected nothing less than a thrashing, especially when you add wenger’s idiotic tactic (pushing high line with average back 4 and no real DM really served them well, lol)
August 28, 2011 at 20:38
Red Harry4Life says:
One question from to-days game.

Why was Asharin not sent off?

Both of his tackles on Jones and Young were straight reds every single day of week.

Will the media be launching a Rooney style witch hunt to get him suspended?

I won’t hold my breath
August 28, 2011 at 20:38
Clint-iamyourpapii says:
Was King Eric at the match or anyone else ?

I would trade my life in for a ticket to that match and a Time travel Machine.
MG- Thats 2 for 1 again. Triffic deal !

Quite a boring birthday now that a few hours have passed since the game.
Have to say though My Wish came true and We won 800-2.

I would 8-2 be an Arsenal fan watching Match of The Day tonight.
August 28, 2011 at 20:39
CedarsDevil says:
Still lost for words……… If I am not mistaken this is the highest aggregate score at OT in the PL era, I remember we beat Ipswich 9 nil in the mid 90′s ………….
August 28, 2011 at 20:39
NYDUDE says:
Does anyone know the average age of the 2 squads today? Our “kids” did the business and some…..
August 28, 2011 at 20:39
Doghouse says:
WE ARE FUCKING AMAZING. Just saying.
August 28, 2011 at 20:41
Balaji Sivaraman says:
I cannot stress how important Sir Alex making Wayne stay is to our current setup. The great man could’ve handled the situation differently asking Rooney to make way like he has done with so many other great players. But, he didn’t. He obviously realized the importance of Rooney to his future plans. Sure, you can say now that it could’ve been anybody taking Wayne’s place now but I would call it absolute bollocks.

Rooney is to this team what Eric Cantona was to those kids post-1995. He is the talisman of the current United setup. I can definitely see him becoming a legend with us and probably even breaking the great Sir Bobby’s record which he admitted was his aim today. In a few years time, all will be forgotten as far as Wayne is concerned – the episode last year would be a minor blip in his career. Sure, it maybe the naive side of me talking but I’ve never been much of a cynic anyways. It is clear that Rooney wants to play for us and win more trophies. I envision him playing for a long time with us, if not finishing his career also.

Rooney will go on to win World and European footballer of the year awards and be crowned as the best player in the world which, in my eyes, he already is. But I will never forget that arresting interview Sir Alex gave last year. It was what made Rooney change his mind (apart from an increased pay package on our terms no doubt) and commit his future to the club.

Sir Alex – We love you! This is one eternally grateful Manchester United fan. I seriously wish I had the powers to make him immortal. I am going to savor every moment of his remaining (hopefully long) years at Old Trafford.
August 28, 2011 at 20:41
CedarsDevil says:
Doghouse

What makes you say that pal? lol
August 28, 2011 at 20:46
Tonka Norris says:
Beautiful. 3 beautiful, fat and rosy points, 100% still. Rooney on fire, Young is better than anyone thought he could be, De Gea is wiping the smirks off ABU faces, Jones & Smalling continue to shine brightly, Anderson and Cleverley look really good together. We look good at the top of the table

Bonus: against Arsenal
Bonus: kicks City off the Back Pages

Bummer 1: the international break (hate these shitpot fixtures)
Bummer 2: Danny – I could weep for him
Bummer 3: Judging by Ashavin’s performance there’s still a different rule book for United.
August 28, 2011 at 20:46
RedManWalking says:
Just got back – was out to watch the match! Abso-fucking-lutely amazing!! After the first half, I was thinking “Hmm..7-1 to go top of the table”! And we smash in 8! My cheeks hurt! Got a crazy smile on my face like I am high on pot!

I felt really bad for The Berb though. The guy is absolute class. Did you guys notice how he was all smiles when Nani came off and he congratulated Nani?

Everyone played really well! Amazing to see Rooney n Young! We scored 8 and Chicha didn’t even score! Imagine that! Could have easily had another 4 more! DDG was class except for that one mistake – I think he could have stopped the first one! I felt bad for him. I mean it came right behind a penalty save and that double block!

And Smalling – he plays center and RB just as well! What an amazing player!

SAF – I thank you sir. Do not know what United would have done without you! You have made this club greater – greater than it already was. You added to it’s history, memories that we, as fans, can cherish for years to come. You brought us Cantona. You brought the never-say-die attitude to the team. You brought us no.19. You kicked the scouse off their fucking perch. Words are not enough to express the gratitude the fans have towards you.

One of the best days of my life.
August 28, 2011 at 20:49
Fred says:
Amazing. Thank you for the link.
August 28, 2011 at 20:49
Costas says:
I think this was one of those occasions where everything fell into place. I hope I’m wrong, but when are we going to see Ashley score 2 crackers like that in one game? Or Rooney score twice from a free kick in one game? Reminds me of Carrick’s strikes in that Roma game.

Even though everyone was superb (even Pat got his act together in the 2nd half!), my 2 MVPs are DDG and Young. The latter is rapidly becoming a huge favorite of mine!
August 28, 2011 at 20:56
CedarsDevil says:
Just how good is Cleverley? No, seriously just how good is he? His touch, quick pass and movement is truly superb….. We have a new gem in midfield with this lad
August 28, 2011 at 20:56
Costas says:
Oh and when is Sneijder going to sign? Our creativity is dreadful.
August 28, 2011 at 20:57
parth_312 says:
Guys, my quick reactions from a bonkers of a game we just saw … http://bit.ly/pI4ke5
August 28, 2011 at 20:58
redrider says:
rmw
where did u watch the game from?
i rang up a few gooners to see how they were doing… lol. dint know what to say really…
August 28, 2011 at 20:59
Fred says:
You two have been beating the Sneijder drum all summer. Time to give up and just be happy with the squad we have.
August 28, 2011 at 20:59
Clint-iamyourpapii says:
Balaji – I agree with you, even when ronnie was with us I thought Rooney was the better player.

Wayne Rooney is the greatest footballer of his generation (messi,ronaldo etc) If he wasn’t english but Argentine,german,dutch,spanish,portuguesse, brazillian. He would be declared the White Pele But because of this media, FA and england set up he’s under-rated around the world because england is a joke.
August 28, 2011 at 21:02
The Fly says:
Absolutely fucking wonderfully mesmeric brilliance

8-2. EIGHT FUCKING TWO.
August 28, 2011 at 21:03
Costas says:
What I found funny is that this as Ji’s first game of the season and straight away he scored against the Arse. They must be sick at the sight of him. 5 goals for him in this fixture. 10 for Rooney.
August 28, 2011 at 21:05
The Fly says:
Ashley Young has convinced me already. That boy don’t do tap ins. And he’s going to get about 20 assists. Always involved.

Phil Jones. I do really love him. He is perfect. Must be those highlights.
August 28, 2011 at 21:06
AlphaRS says:
Cleverly and Anderson may be good enough to bring there or there abouts with the league title but it would be beyond expectations for them to bring in the Champions League.
Probably why I still think Sneijder would be a good addition to United.
August 28, 2011 at 21:07
Balaji Sivaraman says:
@Cedars, I was discussing the same thing with FITB in the last thread. Not to make a direct comparison, but I haven’t seen somebody use the ball as well since a certain Paul Scholes. He has rarely wasted possession in the games I’ve seen so far. He keeps the play ticking with quick short passes and the opponents are always caught chasing shadows. He is like Scholes in another sense as well in that he is always around to receive the ball from a player and makes himself available for a pass. Not only that, for someone so tiny, he looks physically fit. Granted it was only Arsenal, but he out-muscled some of their players many times today. He can defend as well which is not something many other similar players can boast of.

Overall, I think he has all the qualities to be a Red legend. Not showering with a weight of expectations but that is what I feel right now. He has already shown himself to be an extremely intelligent player, and that is one attribute that only increases with age.

Sure, he will have blips in form as will this team in general. That is where we will need the experience of Giggs, Carrick and Fletcher to guide him and Ando through the rough patches. And that is what makes us still so fucking amazing. We’ve still got all these experienced lads to come in that can only improve the morale of the team and help us grind out results on those cold winter nights. Not saying that the young lads will not be up for it. But, in case they have difficulties, we have these players to call upon which is simply a boon in my opinion.

@Papii, I will say that Rooney is a better all around footballer than any of his peers. They all have different effects on the game. Messi can dazzle with his genius and slice open defenses. Ronnie can do something equally mesmerizing and use his strength to good effect as well. We can say many similar things about Xavi, Iniesta etc. But nobody can do so many fucking things as well as Rooney can. Oh, and not to mention Wayne is more of a leader than any of his peers are. He can provide that injection of energy like Keano used to do in his heyday. I did hate him for those few dreadful weeks but that is all forgotten now. Before that, and since then, I’ve been one of his biggest fans. I personally would not trade one Wayne Rooney for a thousand Messis and Ronaldos, and I definitely mean that. That is how much I love what WayneBoy brings to the table when he puts on that red shirt.
August 28, 2011 at 21:08
CedarsDevil says:
Fred

LOL
August 28, 2011 at 21:15
markg says:
what brilliant signings by SAF and the boys coming through the future looks good
August 28, 2011 at 21:16
redrider says:
from the Invincibles to the Invisibles.
August 28, 2011 at 21:17
utdforever says:
evra must have enjoyed that.. he lovesss winding them up..

on another note this is the most exciting start i can remember.. long may it continue
August 28, 2011 at 21:17
MG says:
You know what I am a little upset with Welbeck getting injured

When my brother and I were at the Scholes testimonial we said it then that Danny would be the biggest player for the team – and I know that I will be proved right

Followed closely by TC

And Jones

And Smalling

Did you notice something
August 28, 2011 at 21:18
parryheid says:
Excellent game and superb goals,All Eight from United,but I hope Arsenal recover from this sharpish like next week.We’ve got our goals and points and its important to me Arsenal compete and beat our rivals from now on until we meet again,don’t want to see City,Chelsea and Pool cancelling out what we achieved today.
August 28, 2011 at 21:21
MG says:
Papii

What a Birthday then
August 28, 2011 at 21:22
CedarsDevil says:
Got a text from my nephew (Liverpool fan) said ‘Your lot are usually slow starters, but if this is your start God help us all’

Balaji – Very good summary on Clev, not wanting to gloat or anything but I have been screaming about this kid all summer and hence my stance against the signing of a certain Dutch man
August 28, 2011 at 21:23
CedarsDevil says:
Hiya MG – What a day eh? A result that will be talked about for years and we were fortunate enough to witness it….

United never seize to amaze us
August 28, 2011 at 21:27
Costas says:
It’s sad that Welbeck won’t be available for the Chelsea game. He would have caused Terry a lot of problems with his movement. I guess we will have to rely on Chicharito.
August 28, 2011 at 21:27
Devil310 says:
Rooney deserves to be the highest payed footballer of this team. Period.

On another point, not trying to be over critical, but I do want to point out that Jones made 2 bad decisions today.

The first one was miss judging that long ball that released the little albino possum (Arshavin) which almost resulted in a goal.

The second one resulted on their second goal. He could have headed the ball to the corner. But instead he tried to clear it from a very award position and it landed in the box, at the feet of an opponent.

The kid has been great but he shown a bit of inexperience there. I’m not worried, though.
August 28, 2011 at 21:27
NYDUDE says:
I thought both Anderson and Cleverley were superb……. Nani’s finish was top draw. As for Rooney and Young- 5 very good goals. Park, as per usual against the Arse, he puts it in the onion bag
August 28, 2011 at 21:30
NYDUDE says:
Devil310- jones not heading out for the 2nd is all about experience……. I thought the same thing at the time.
August 28, 2011 at 21:31
slim says:
@MG

i’m with you there mate. Danny is going to be a revelation.

Not knocking anything Hernandez has done or will do but one can’t deny the possibilities with this lad. Quick, strong,skill, touch. The way i see it, hernendez could have found it difficult getting in ahead. I have no worries with that as SAF would rotate the lads as and when. We just feel that bit more natural with Danny on. Putting it as bluntly as i can because i’m still delirious form this evenings game, Hernandez requires a high degree of precision most of the time to impact the game. With danny, the supporting cast can mix it anyway they want because they know once danny gets an inch of his body involved in the play something is on.
Fantastic and lovely to see. It will truly be interesting to see what SAF does when Danny gets fit and the state of our play with Hernandez leading the line. Decision decisions decisions. Bet the manager wishes he was 50
August 28, 2011 at 21:34
Clint-iamyourpapii says:
aWesome Birthday

Balaji – I’ll never look at Rooney the same after the “Mr Ambition” Saga but the lad gives me butterflies, the type Fletch, Ronnie, Keano, Giggs, Cantona, Hughes, Scholes give me. I love Wayne and the lad can match Charlton if he does a giggs and evolves with the times.

Cant Describe my joy with today

——————————————————–

What De Gea said after the game;

“Old Trafford is wonderful, very big, and the best thing is when it is packed and the crowd is cheering,” the 20-year-old told United’s official Spanish website.

“Our fans are truly unbelievable. They sing the whole time and cheer for the team, and for us that is very important.

“My debut was an unforgettable moment and I enjoyed everything about it – the atmosphere, the stadium and the game, as well as keeping a clean sheet, which is important for the team.

“And I’m very happy that we made it two wins from two against Arsenal. Now we’re aiming to continue along the same lines.”
August 28, 2011 at 21:43
CedarsDevil says:
Papii

It was great hearing the fans sing his name, brilliant
August 28, 2011 at 21:43
Clint-iamyourpapii says:
My Favourite player today was Tom Cleverley – The Hard Bastard took the game by the scruff of the neck and squeezed the life out of it. Not only did he grab it by the scruff but he teared voice box out of the very neck he had squeezed.

My Favourite moments was the De Gea Penalty save, The Van persie save by De Gea and The Welbeck opener and The 2nd Rooneh Free kick….what a stunner.

Young was gorgeous. Nani was a nightmare for United and Arshenal. Ando is like pest
Jones and Evans was immense, Smalling is the greatest defender in the world
Evra’s celebration to Young’s 2nd was hilarious and the Capitan did well in the 2nd half.

—————If only Chico or Giggs scored——————————————————-
——————————–The Boy Park showed arsenal they signed the wrong Park.

Cool Cat Berba is the man even from the bench
August 28, 2011 at 21:47
redrider says:
belated birthday wishes papii… boy are you ever going to remember this day or what??!
the other day smartalex just mentioned how we win when dzeko scores… Fucking hell!
August 28, 2011 at 21:51
Costas says:
Anyone heard why Carrick and Fletcher weren’t even on the bench today?

As I rewatch the highlights, I still don’t understand where Evra disappeared to during Arsenal’s 2 goals, as well as the penalty. His positional play is really becoming suspect.

On the plus side, I loved how everyone congratulated De Gea after the penalty save.
August 28, 2011 at 21:52
Clint-iamyourpapii says:
Cedars – I was singing along like a right muppet, off tempo and like a prat

“DAVID DAVID, DA GAYA …..DAVID, DAVID DA GAYA” Sounded nothing like the crowd but the one man army sounded great to so I don’t care

Thanks redrider – I think I’ll boast and toast this win for as long as I live for every birthday
Dzeko is the best thing to happen to Manchester, he scores we win….he scores 4, we win 4x times as good.

Edin Dzeko – Welcome to Greater Manchester
August 28, 2011 at 21:58
Mahesh says:
@Costas – Yeah Evra’s becoming a concern, at least the defensive positional aspect of his play. Every once in while he puts his defensive partners under undue pressure. Wonder where he wanders off. I love the energy he brings to the team, but he really needs to up his game big time…
August 28, 2011 at 21:59
Jamaican Red Devil says:
I’d 8-2 be an Arsenal fan right now….rofl
August 28, 2011 at 22:02
Clint-iamyourpapii says:
Agree with you Costas – His postioning and tracking back from attacking positons has just vanished.
He often leaves Vidic – The Saviour of all defences to clean up effectively. When its someone like Evans or Jones it will be difficult to clear up Evra’s Mess.

Originally I thought Evra lost a yard of pace – But he is still lightning fast, he is also still good on the ground tackling, heading, attacking…still a bit wonky with crosses but I realised today that the likes of Suarez, Walcott, Lennon recently have pounced on his postional movement and that the difference between of Paddy of 2006-2010 to 2010- now.

The lad has perfomed excellently over the years and is our most consistant defender in the last 5 years. so that enough negativity from me. Love Capitan Paddy, his skills and celebrations are 2nd to none.
August 28, 2011 at 22:03
rat1p says:
still cant believe the result and that i was there live in full hd
August 28, 2011 at 22:07
Rai says:
New generation of legends in the making, and legends is a strong claim to make.

Hope everyone is well!!
August 28, 2011 at 22:07
MG says:
I have been watching Inception

The question I like to ask is:

Was today real or was someone in my mind planing something?
August 28, 2011 at 22:09
King Eric says:
Nonsense ando and cleverley can’t do it in europe. They are growing by he gane. Cleverley is a right fucking player. Great day out and even the top of north stand tier two was buzzing. Phil jones has fast become a fan favourite. Young is top drawer. To think I didn’t rate him. Fuck me. De gea was excellent as was smalling. Rooney is just ridiculous. A proper fucking player. One hundred and fifty goals for United now. We were unplayable today. Sorry alpha but just don’t agree tom and ando won’t cut it n europe. They will have carrick andfletch in there too no doubt. I wanted sneijder but fuck that greedy cunt. The ball over the top for the first goal was fucking sublime. The lads are growing by the game. I expect us to dish out some serious tankings this season. The movement and pace is just silly. Well done lads. Made my week.
August 28, 2011 at 22:12
Costas says:
@Mahesh, Papii

I agree that he’s still quick. It’s not a case of Part winding down. As a poster said very eloquently recently, Evra has become positionally naive. Maybe SAF has to ban him from going past the half way line for a while, lol. And like Papii said, his errors tend to go unnoticed when Vida plays. But Evans getting left alone with Walcott? Not a lot of good can come out of that. Too much difference in speed between the two.
August 28, 2011 at 22:13
Costas says:
Anothe thing. I love that little tactic we have during free kicks where Ando sneaks around the opposition’s wall and clowns around in front of the goalkeeper.
August 28, 2011 at 22:16
CedarsDevil says:
Rai

Welcome back my friend! Been a while, hope all is well
August 28, 2011 at 22:18
Mahesh says:
@Costas – I wish we’d held on to JoS…Not that he would replace Evra, but he was the perfect foil to him, and he added real depth to our defense…
August 28, 2011 at 22:18
Clint-iamyourpapii says:
MG –
What is the most resilient parasite? Bacteria? A virus? An intestinal worm? An idea. Resilient… highly contagious. Once an idea has taken hold of the brain it’s almost impossible to eradicate. An idea that is fully formed – fully understood – that sticks; right in there somewhere.

Which is why we need to plant it deep in the subconscious. Subconscious is motivated by emotion.
Mate im Afraid an Idea has been planted in your mind. This idea is

“Manchester United are not just a local football club, we are a ruthless killing machine ”
its either that or
“Dzeko will bring imbalance to Manchester” ~ BLOO MOON DECLINING ~
August 28, 2011 at 22:18
King Eric says:
Sorry. Rooney 152 goals. Is it just because I am an eternal optimist but do some find it necessary to find faults? Nowt wrong with that but just enjoy the fucking performance. Jones getting a bit of stick. Fuck me. The lad is sheer quality.
August 28, 2011 at 22:21
CedarsDevil says:
King Eric

You always sing my tune buddy…. Well said
August 28, 2011 at 22:22
united.george says:
Best way to describe our season so far is….Relentless.

BTW, that is also the word featured on this inside of the blue/black striped away jersey on the other side of the badge.
August 28, 2011 at 22:23
Clint-iamyourpapii says:
I think Evra and De Gea are exactly the same – Perfect players – But Very Naive.

David sometimes by his reaction looks pissed off with himself when making an error. This is a good thing. It shows he knows better and he often puts it right. De Gea is naive just look at his mistakes. No mistake is made based on a lack of ability just being Naive and losing concentration that can be easliy solved with adjustment to life.

De Gea saves was beautiful, hes like a half grown swan ready to fly. He’s a looker too.
August 28, 2011 at 22:26
ahjs says:
Let’s keep some perspective, eh? This time last year (roughly) Rooney might have been finished. Now he’s better than Messi and all others on the planet? Right right right.

“He would be declared the White Pele But because of this media, FA and england set up he’s under-rated around the world because england is a joke.”

Look, he is called the White Pele (at least by our media). He’s had one good international tournament and had three realitevly poor CL final performances (okay, he socred a good goal this year but that was his 1st against Spanish opposition but more importantly his failure to get tight enough to Busquets like he was supposed to has been recognised as a major problem in stopping Barca.) I’ll admit he could be the leader of this team and is now a key figure in the future of the club and can be a legend of the club (when there were serious doubts a year ago). A world class player. His ability is there and I mean it as a compliment when I say he has to achieve and do more to be the best on the planet. I don’t think he’s always played to his potential. Messi, especially, seems to do it every week, every game. He hasn’t let up for a while, Rooney has (he had a whole half-bad season only last year) and he has to keep going and going. If he does, and leads this team onwards we’ll see..
August 28, 2011 at 22:26
redrider says:
papii
maybe on your next we might cream the bitters back to the wastelands.
costas
maori haka i guess! lol.
August 28, 2011 at 22:29
redrider says:
evra always the eager one tends to stray towards the action… always scares the shit out me when a break is happening on that wing and watching evra in the centre.
August 28, 2011 at 22:29
Rai says:
Well said King Eric.

Cedars – I’m well my friend hope you’re doing good…what a start to the season. Good football and the results to match. Can’t ask for any more..
August 28, 2011 at 22:30
CedarsDevil says:
ahjs

No need to be ‘that’ positive mate, it might rub off on all of us…

Jeez
August 28, 2011 at 22:30
Costas says:
Rooney surpassed Ruud and Scholesy and has broken into United’s top 10 goalscorers of all time. Once he surpasses Giggs, he’ll become our highest goalscorer in the Fergie era.

@Mahesh

I fully agree on O’Shea mate. The lack of cover at the full back areas was and still is one of my main worries for this season.
August 28, 2011 at 22:33
CedarsDevil says:
ahjs

Another thing, we have just put 8 past Arsenal and you talk about fucking keeping things in perspective?
August 28, 2011 at 22:35
Costas says:
@redrider

Lol, it does look a lot like that. Only Ando is a lot more scary. It’s like he’s still starving after Bebe ate his food and is threatening the goalie to eat him alive.
August 28, 2011 at 22:37
T4M says:
Brilliant day!Brilliant day!
August 28, 2011 at 22:40
redrider says:
costas
hope he doesn’t do it in training. de gea looks like he could do some beefing up.
August 28, 2011 at 22:43
CedarsDevil says:
Just watched Stoke’s winner v West Brom…….. Complete cock up by Foster, hilarious actually

Rai – I am great my friend……..Keep posting!
August 28, 2011 at 22:44
MG says:
Papii
August 28, 2011 at 22:53
ahjs says:
CedarsDevil says:

“No need to be ‘that’ positive mate, it might rub off on all of us…Jeez”

“Another thing, we have just put 8 past Arsenal and you talk about fucking keeping things in perspective?”

Fair points but I wasn’t referring to the game, was I? Only to Rooney all of a sudden being the best in the world. It’s probably a flaw but I can’t help but jump on knee-jerk reactions. Usually the negative ones – recently about De Gea. I should probably shut up when people are overwhelmingly positive. I accept that. I just hope Rooney continues his form. I think, after last season, he owes us another top season. Then we can say he’s the best. Just my humble opinion, of course.

I know, 8-2 is amazing. I’ve hardly talked about nothing else but United (and a bit about Arsenal) since. But I don’t come onto blogs to say “WHOOP WOOP We’re amazing etc etc.”. Fine if people do, it doesn’t interest me to type things like that. I tend to like fiesty (but friendly and constructive) arguments. I don’t mind being a tad critical if we’re just speaking on a blog on a forum – but I accept it might rub people up the wrong way if I do it after an 8-2 victory.
August 28, 2011 at 22:55
slim says:
we’re gonna win the league again. WHOOOOOOO. hansen said it again!!!. you’ll never win anything with kids
August 28, 2011 at 22:55
JD says:
Cedars park comes on scores good shout. Lee Dixon shirt numbers what sort of an excuse is that! Prick!
August 28, 2011 at 22:55
CedarsDevil says:
We just had what is a historic victory YET some can still spout shit such as….

- Keep things in perspective
- Rooney is over hyped
- It was a depleted Arsenal
- Our midfield is still suspect
- We gave away soft goals
- Ando & Clev will never cut it in Europe

Bloody hell, I often wonder about some people. I guess they never know how to be happy or to simply celebrate, such a shame really
August 28, 2011 at 22:59
King Eric says:
Rai. Hey up pal. Good to see you.

Cedars. Cheers mate. Likewise. See what I mean with the post from ajhs. Always looking for negatives. Why? Just enjoy it. Oh and ajhs. Rooney is twenty five and banged in one hundred and fity two goals. Not bad eh. Not to mention his all round game. He is superb. Simple as.

Lads check out that fucking cunt jasonparks post on the anders thread. Reckons today papers over the cracks of our shit midfield. These cunts lknow fuck all about football. The same pairing who bossed city west brom and thiago and iniesta. Why the fuck does that jasonpark frequent this blog when we all know he is a wum. Some clown called gizmoj even agreed with him. Sort of cunts who would rather hvae. Pastore and fucking sanchez. Nowt made me more happy than seeing our homegrowners lliketom and danny doing so well.
August 28, 2011 at 22:59
TheLeftBank says:
What a performance! I couldn’t believe my eyes as the goals just racked up like a tennis match. Un-fucking believable!

Arsenal may have had injury woes but that shouldn’t take anything away from how well United played. They were magnificent. Everyone was great. Rooney on fire. Cleverly humming the midfield over. Young and Wellbeck unplayable.

I’m really glad for De Gea as that penalty save was what he needed to give the lad some confidence and for the naysayers a kick up the arse.

But still it’s not enough. Check out the sarcastic asshole new football guy at the Daily Telegraph, Jonathan Liew

“….Oh, what a horrible penalty from Robin van Persie! He got an awful contact, didn’t place it anywhere near the corner, and it was an easy save for David De Gea tumbling down to his right!….De Gea may have saved the penalty, but he didn’t exactly shower himself in glory when he let Walcott’s shot through his legs….”

I like reading all the papers and follow real great sports journos from the Guardian (Jonathan Wilson is amazing on tactics) to the Telegraph (Henry Winter is great), and others in between. But this kid just irritates the hell out of me. Criticism is all well and good but not when it’s snark. And a lazy one at that.

Liew is clearly trying too hard to show his chops that he’s one of the boys. And he does so by keeping a silly meme alive i.e. De Gea is wobbly even when presented with evidence to the contrary.

That’s just lazy by the numbers journalism. He writes like toilet paper.

Sorry for the rant. But I just needed to get it off my chest.

I won’t let a snarky ass-wipe spoil what was an amazing day.

The Left Bank.
August 28, 2011 at 23:02
NotoriousRedDevil says:
There was some sloppy play from us today but Cedars but you’re right, we just beat l’arse 8-2 everything else shouldn’t matter. This was a Pro Evo scoreline which fans only dream of. Also not a single one of us thought we’d be top after what happened at the Lane. We should be happy, I Am. I’ve had a grin on my face since 4.20pm which doesn’t want to go away. Lets enjoy this rub l’arse and cit-eh fans faces in it and discuss what needs to be sorted on 10th september.
August 28, 2011 at 23:02
CedarsDevil says:
ahjs

I am sorry but nothing in your post comes across as debate material and yes posting it after such a victory can only be interpreted as complete negativity. Constructive debates and varying opinions are healthy and enjoyable when addressed properly, your post had neither of those components…
August 28, 2011 at 23:03
MG says:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story/_/id/947120/busby-the-foundation,-fergie-the-resurrection-at-man-utd?cc=5739

Back down to earth again – what a privilege being a part of Manchester United

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August 28, 2011 at 23:07
CedarsDevil says:
King Eric – Cheers buddy… Yes I saw that post by the troll, that is all he is my friend…

NRD – Well said, today we celebrate and enjoy…. In days to come we can address areas that we feel need tweaking
August 28, 2011 at 23:12
Mahesh says:
Ahjs – Don’t get me (and others) wrong mate, I think in the clear light of day you have some solid arguments, and most people would even agree with you. Only today, with a great result, it is only fair that we celebrate with hyperbole and take the positives from this. Maybe in a couple of days we’ll all come back and debate the points you have made, and maybe even agree with you in several instances.
August 28, 2011 at 23:24
CedarsDevil says:
JD

Park just loves scoring against the Gunners eh? I honestly had a feeling that he would get one when he came on!
August 28, 2011 at 23:36
Clint-iamyourpapii says:
Kneejerk it is not – ahjs

Wayne Rooney is the finest astronaut to grace the Old Trafford turf. His bowling skills have caught even the best of batsmen out and his steering during the malaysian gran prix was nothing short of him being declared ” The White Schumacher”. I’d rather see an ambitous baldy like Rooney than a full head of Hair Midget like Messi that can’t score headers,free kicks or play for argentina. At least Rooney’s favourite player is Maradonna, ask Messi’s his favourite player is probably himself or Ibrahim Afellay, Flipping heck the nostrils on that lad are huge, Messi that is, he can flipping suck in the Real Back 4 regularly with that sniffer like he did during the CL semi’s when he sniffed up the whole real team as if they was line of charlie or somethink or nothink.

Wayne Rooney is the best because he’s ours, Nani is 2nd best because he’s ours. I’d like to Ronaldo or Messi put in those performances earning those two’s wages. Both Ronnie and Messi earn £330K a week. Rooney is on pennies being the greatest of all time. Nani is rationing on his food for Moses sake.

I lost the right to having perpective when I wore my red tinted glasses. Ask Arry we’ve won the Premier league 38 times which is Triffic considering its only existed for 20 years but it was a fantastic piece of business to buy silverware before inflation.

——— I Sincerely Apologise for any offence caused ———-Messi you fuck off lad ! we got Bebe !
August 28, 2011 at 23:44
wayne says:
i have to follow Wayne Rooney is the finest astronaut to grace Old Trafford,forget it it,great win today.Arse better get their shit together quick or they’ll end up in the relegation battle.
That team today is not Prem quality and wenger has no depth.He needs to buy and fast or Gunners in serious trouble.
August 28, 2011 at 23:50
Clint-iamyourpapii says:
Thank you Wayne…when he put down the flag on old trafford….I knew this boy is special, Remember when he punched the flag after scoring against Shitty in the Carling Cup, Well that was his Flag.

Dont Believe me? Ask our very own Illegal Alien, Rene Muelenschweinsteen….he was there
August 28, 2011 at 23:51
ahjs says:
@ King Eric says:

“Always looking for negatives. Why? Just enjoy it. Oh and ajhs. Rooney is twenty five and banged in one hundred and fity two goals. Not bad eh. Not to mention his all round game. He is superb. Simple as. ”

I wasn’t looking for a negitve, I just like debating about the best players. I gave a long paragrapgh that explained my opinion. But I didn’t say he wasn’t superb. In fact, I think I said he is world class and could become a legend of the club (and I don’t use the term lightly)! I think a good half of my post was positive/encouraging, but I stopped short of declaring a player I don’t believe to be the best in the world to be the best in the world. Ooops. Wrong place, wrong time for that.
August 28, 2011 at 23:52
It's in my blood says:
Any word from Piers Morgan……..?
August 28, 2011 at 23:59
Devil310 says:
I think Evra is getting unfair criticism. He was immense today. Kept Walcott on his back pocket all night and he was recovering balls on that flank all night. Yes, we were exposed on that flank but only when our fullbacks,
including Smalling, move forward it always
leaves that hole. I personally think he did exceptionally well today.
August 29, 2011 at 00:12
Andooo says:
Ando came to us an attacking midfielder, since his arrival I have moaned about him been played deeper and out of position but now finally i can see what Sir Alex has been doing over the last 3-4 years.

Ando has become a complete midfielder. He can pass, run with the ball at his feet, has lightning acceleration to burst away from his man, he’s as strong as an ox and has great energy as well a creative streak which sometimes leaves you speechless. Since his arrival he has added to these potentially great attributes the ability to break up play, intercept the opposition passes and hounds his opponent to submission. This has created a monster of a player.

The potential is been realised folks and i believe signing another midfielder is just going to slow down the progression the guy is making towards been the best box to box midfielder in the world.

Fergie is the master, Ando will owe it all to him for seeing what he could become, been disciplined with him and now he and Man Utd will reap the rewards!

Let’s just hope stays injury free, Viva Ando!
August 29, 2011 at 00:12
wayne says:
Best in the world is very subjective,is it based purley on stats or importance in the structure of the team.I’d think Messi fits both so i’d rate him number 1.
Messi has to do something spectacular at the World Cup to be considered the best ever.Regulars know i think George Best was the greatest ever but never got a chance to prove himself at any World Cup.I do know something Best would have thrived in that atmosphere the World Cup was made for George Best because he knew how good he was.
The two ranked 1st and 2nd both had great World Cups.Pele and Maradona.also one can argue Spanish League is pretty poor,so unless he produces at a World Cup can never be rated the best ever.
August 29, 2011 at 00:14
ahjs says:
“Any word from Piers Morgan……..?”

I checked his Twitter earlier………..and that’s probably the most embarrassing thing I’ve ever admitted to. I won’t be doing it again. Michael Owen had a dig at him but Morgan wants Rio as he won’t play many more games for United (according to Morgan) and he also wants a new manager for Arsenal and Martin O’ Neill’s number. Better than that one Arsenal fan I heard wanted Owen Coyle.

I wonder what Arsenal people thought of Ferguson’s post match interview, where he basically said “you don’t want to score more goals”. Restrain yourselves! Don’t embarrass the poor guys! You’d think it was an exhibition. I suppose it is against Arsenal these days. Mind you, there’s very few quality teams around Europe at the moment.
August 29, 2011 at 00:15
The Fly says:
NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA, ASHLEY, ASHLEY YOUNG, ASHLEY YOUNG, ASHLEY, ASHLEY YOUNG NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
August 29, 2011 at 00:19
The Fly says:
I’m going to take this time to remind you all that Wayne Rooney is the best player in world football.
August 29, 2011 at 00:21
wayne says:
@Clint,some of the lads are clever writers,you’re one of them
@Andooo i’m feeeling what you’re feeling mate Ando is looking good and like Ronnie leaving improved Nani,Scholes retiring has seemed to have pushed Ando on to prove himself,he’s looking really good.
August 29, 2011 at 00:23
The Fly says:
If Sneijder was playing it would have been 10-2. HAHA
August 29, 2011 at 00:26
The Fly says:
Both Chris Smalling and Carl Jenkinson were non-league 2 years ago. Who’s better…..
August 29, 2011 at 00:28
markg says:
The best player in the world is the player you like the best, be it rooney or chris smalling.I aiways loved clayton blackmore and brucie the players who gives you the best memories.
August 29, 2011 at 00:28
The Fly says:
#piersmorganTWAT
August 29, 2011 at 00:34
Clint-iamyourpapii says:
Thanks Wayne Great Performance 2day

Its the 29th…expect United to sign either Sneijder or Rodwell

Im tipping Anzhi Makelelalala, Malaga, PSG & Shitty to breakaway from Fifa and form their own league inviting Roma, Chelsea, Liverpool, Madrid,Barca’s Creditors & The guys that robbed Liverpool of £35m on a certain player. This league will be called the League of Extra-ordinary Yachts.
August 29, 2011 at 00:35
wayne says:
Smalling is looking superb,can’t leave him out,Sir Alex must have known how good he’d be at fullback to allow o’shea and wes to leave.The Twins have potential to become world class and Jones plays like he’s 26,all the young lads coming through have bags of offensive talent and that’s only the D lol,fucking scary if it stays intact.
August 29, 2011 at 00:35
ahjs says:
“Both Chris Smalling and Carl Jenkinson were non-league 2 years ago. Who’s better…..”

Hmm. Jenkinson was cheaper, has been thrown in the deep end and isn’t as good as the player he’s replaced but if he develops Arsenal can sell him at a profit and repeat the process, sliding down the table slowly but surely as the years go on. So, I’m gonna have to say Jenkinson is the answer to you question.

Don’t let Smalling’s medals or ability fool you, everyone loves Arsenal. They play the best football in England.
August 29, 2011 at 00:35
markg says:
I wouldn’t even comment on piers morgan love him in celebrity american apprentice but he knows damn all about football
August 29, 2011 at 00:45
slim says:
@ahjs

really, the best football in England. You could have fooled me. i don’t know circumstances behind Jenkinson but i think i’ll take chris any day. I’ll gladly let his wonderful ability on the ball fool me
August 29, 2011 at 00:53
Berbarian says:
Smalling was absolutely outstanding today.
One very important detail: his dribbling, moving and game reading are of classy creative MF level.
I think the lid is enjoying his full-back life.
August 29, 2011 at 00:57
ahjs says:
@slim

I wasn’t beling serious.
August 29, 2011 at 01:04
HopelesslyPatriotic says:
Costas said:
“.. Another thing. I love that little tactic we have during free kicks where Ando sneaks around the opposition’s wall and clowns around in front of the goalkeeper…”

Looks like SAF has put Ando’s horrible goal celebrations to good use.. lol
August 29, 2011 at 01:11
Giggsy's Lawyer says:
http://h7.abload.de/img/dimitri-anderson-danceiujo.gif

ANDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
August 29, 2011 at 01:19
Giggsy's Lawyer says:
and here’s a video of me watching today’s game:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4815/2hs25nkjpg.gif
August 29, 2011 at 01:24
torontored says:
Well we paste Arse 8-2 and now the euphoria has died down peple are still fucking moaning about the middle of the field :

Not good enough for Europe

We need a defensive midielder

We need a offensive midfielder

FFS

This is the best /hardest/fastest league in the world – who gives a fuck about Europe (only team worries me is Barca)

We do not any more than we have in the middle – why spend money on players who 1) are not two way midfield players 2) who will need time to “bed in” 3) who do not wear the shirt 4) who provide no residual value or are mercenary (Sneider) 5) who may look great playing in their respective leagues which are way lower qualty than the Premier but who some people reckon we need to sign!!!!!! TELL ME WHY? AWAIT RESPONSE _ NO ONE GAME WONDERS ALLOWED????

We have TC/Ando/Nani/Giggs (great today showed what it is all about with his run leading to Youngs goal – he went 35 yards just to pass it back to the player in space)/Fletcher/Carrick/Young/Valencia/Park/Rooney (played his most effective football today in the middle) plus we have two or three prospects coming down the pipeline in Morrison/Pogba/Tunnicliffe – every player today ran his socks off for the team!!!

That is how we will play going forward and defending and as each week goes by the quickness and sharpness of the team will improve.

Noticed twice today players losing the ball in the Arse half – did they give up (a la CR7) did they fuck – they got up and got back into the game.

Point to be made is that “good luck” and “success” are 99% hard work on and off the the field of play.

Now sponsors of Gotze and Sneiders fuck off

We do not need you.

One last point I thought Smalling was rated today at a – 5. That square ball or that the back pass he plays when he “stops his run” is a recipe for fucking disaster – the hospital ball he played to Jones on the Arshavin yellow was piss poor play – if I were Jones I would have smacked him seven days to Sunday at half time (probably SAF did it first though). Still when he defends he does it OK.

Webb was really lenient to that little Russian twat – he should have been off for at least four or five digs

Also have to agree with the comments on Evra – sometimes questionable defending today.

Anyway may turn on CNN later to hear if the turd eyed Morgan has any more comments – hopefully his maid put asenic in his boiled eggs.

UNITED 20/4/12 – 2012
August 29, 2011 at 01:41
Kei says:
I may be a greedy bastard, but anyone think those 2 goals we conceded were quite weak?

Not trying to be a killjoy here, but there were times in the game where I thought we allowed too much space for the Arsenal players to roam . I thought that Ando-Cleverly are a good combination going forward, but facing a stronger opponent SAF may revert back to Fletcher/Ando or Fletcher/Cleverly to patch the hole so often left because Ando was a bit too slow to track back.
August 29, 2011 at 01:55
aenemy7 says:
Wow, our former no7 CR7 also scores his hatrick, a 6-0 win againts Zaragoza match!! he still have that UNITED ” never say never “winning mentality with him……
August 29, 2011 at 01:58
nic says:
watching MOTD they were going on about Arsenal’s lack of experience and that Jenkinson is a kid and no one is telling him what to do on the pitch.. im sorry but United had equally inexperience and young players out on the pitch as Arsenal.. it just goes to show the difference between Sir Alex’s babes and Arsene’s babes in terms of quality and class
August 29, 2011 at 02:08
mikekelly12 says:
@ nic

They also failed to mention after the West Brom game that we had to field 5 of our centre backs in our first game!! And that out of our back 5 we had only 2 regular first team starters!! in our last 2 games against top 5 teams!! Don’t worrry about it pal, the media love to slam us down but it makes it all the sweeter when we prove them wrong! 20 on the horizon!!
August 29, 2011 at 02:16
Fred says:
@Kei – I agree. Sloppy defending imho.
August 29, 2011 at 02:26
Dragonslayer says:
“I may be a greedy bastard, but anyone think those 2 goals we conceded were quite weak?” by Kei.

@ Kei : I agreed with you. We have a perfect good start, but our defense seems to take it a bit easy. Be it offside, foul, or anything else, the defenders should try to keep the balls away from the goal before deciding to seek a decision from the referee. One goal was due to the defense all looking away hoping the referee to give out offside or some sort if I am not mistaken, leaving only the keeper and a defender who was equally confused. Same happen to Arsenal. The other is perhaps De Gea mistake for allowing another tame goal from the side. Though I am not experience enough, I can only say that he has a weakness for ball coming from the sides.

But, the team has perform very well tearing down the opponent and pushing them to the limit. This is something I expect no less from the new corps. De Gea blocking away the penalty was a total blast on Persie and Wengar. You can enjoy Arse’nic Wengar shaking his head and looking down onto the floor all the time when Man Utd attacks. Rooney superb free kicks is packed with deadly precision, something you expect no less from people of his caliber, although one of them just a bit off. Young was superb punishing the opponent keeper with that kind of attack to the far end. Young and Rooney knows too well that the keeper will not be able to reach the far corner.

It was a fantastic start for us. Yet with City going close. United must be able to step up the defense perfectly well. Allowing too many incoming attacks is quite deadly for us especially when we face Barcelona and City. Barcelona managed to produce as much shot on goal compared to us but they do convert their opportunity into goal very well. That is what the players must be able to achieve, converting chance into goal when all odds are stacking.

I am very happy with what the lads produced today. But I won’t judge anything just based on a performance against the weakest Arsenal side we have ever faced in the last few decades. We will have to see what they are really capable of when against the strengthen side of Liverpool, Chelsea and Man City which have recorded their victory in quite a style. Personally, I think this is the first time so many big clubs recorded such a big win at the same time.
August 29, 2011 at 02:32
Fred says:
“CR7″ – hate that nickname, loved the player. You’re welcome back at OT any time you like, pal. Unless that story about him being willing to play for City was true. Bluenose cunt.
August 29, 2011 at 02:39
Kei says:
@Dragonslayer:
Yeah. I think at some points SAF will involve Fletcher if the issue remains to slow down the counter attacking play.

Speaking about De Gea though, the penalty save was brillaint -albeit it was a weak penalty kick by Persie anyway (he knew it was sh*t when he hit it)-.. but I’m more impressed when he saved Persie’s long and powerful drill shot from outside the box. Considering that Persie probably has the best left foot shot in the league
August 29, 2011 at 02:41
Giggsy's Lawyer says:
LOOK AT THOSE PICS I POSTED FFS
August 29, 2011 at 03:04
Dragonslayer says:
Kei says:
Speaking about De Gea though, the penalty save was brillaint -albeit it was a weak penalty kick by Persie anyway (he knew it was sh*t when he hit it)-.. but I’m more impressed when he saved Persie’s long and powerful drill shot from outside the box. Considering that Persie probably has the best left foot shot in the league

Agreed. I re-looked at the video. Persie seems to slip a bit when he was taking the kick, and it affects the power of the kick. Poor guy, must have make a scar in his heart. Arsenal’s fans must have cried. The long shot was quite scary but considering De Gea to have potential by SAF. He must have potential that could rival PS and VDS. In a way, he proof he might be the top keeper in years to come.
August 29, 2011 at 03:18
Fibes says:
A few very strange comments on here tonight, considering we’ve just witnessed possibly the greatest result EVER!

When Park came on I knew he would score because…

…it was like we were playing Seattle Sounders or summat… this way of playing that started in pre-season, we’ve carried it through. Might as well melt that Premier League trophy down into a brick and embed it behind the Stretford End because it’s ours forever.

A win made all the sweeter by the scousers beating Bolton yesterday – “What a performance”/”we’re genuine title contenders”/”it’s our year (yawn)”/”beware United (double yawn)” – bitters earlier in the day – “we’re the best team in the world, sod napoli bring on barca”…

…well that’s what a real smashup looks like, bring it on, if you manage second place we’ll let you shine the alloys on our victory bus, yer bunch of fucking dreamers.

To anyone left who still fancies Sneijder over Clevers, WHY??? This lad is homegrown, he bleeds this club, he’s one of us, and in a few months time is going to be an integral part of the side that tears down Barca.

BELIEVE
August 29, 2011 at 03:25
YorYor says:
@Dragonslayer
That kind of shot from that sort of range, every GK would find it hard to save. Don’t think it’s fair to expect De Gea to have done better – he’s already covered his angle and tried to close the gap but the speed of the shot gave him too little time.

Glad that Anderson decided to focus on football and stop his non-footballing stunts… he’ll be part of our success for the next few seasons, if he doesn’t get eclipsed by Pogba that is.
August 29, 2011 at 03:28
YorYor says:
@Costas
Despite the win, I too found it hard to envision the rest of the season without Sneijder. I mean, look at how dreadful things were last night? The scoreline really serves to flatter but deceive. I fear for our season if we don’t manage to get Sneijder in.
August 29, 2011 at 03:29
YorYor says:
PS: It really shouldn’t take a genius to read the sarcasm in Costas’ post.
August 29, 2011 at 03:33
Clint-iamyourpapii says:
Giggsy’s lawyer – Those are the greatest GIFS in Gif History, im stealing those
August 29, 2011 at 04:04
Samuel - united WE stand says:
Im tired of the same fuckers on here banging on about mario gotze, if the manager felt the need to purchase him i’m sure he’d be at the club, this view that the german will be this midfield saviour due is perplexing.
August 29, 2011 at 04:09
Kei says:
@Fibes:
I would welcome Sneijder should the boss feels his presence is needed in the team. If so, Cleverly could benefit from playing along side someone senior constantly. If not, then I trust the boss and his decision.

But like you, I’d prefer to see our homegrown players in our squad. We have quite a good crop in the next few seasons. Does anyone still remember Petrucci?

Barcelona is a tough team to beat let alone tearing them down. Can we win? Absolutely. Can we spank them like we did to the Arse tonight? I highly doubt it.
August 29, 2011 at 04:11
Samuel - united WE stand says:
A weak penalty save? there is nothing called a ‘weak’ penalty save as the odds are against the keeper in saving it, i mean he could have easily dived to his left and van persie would be wheeling away in celebration but he saved it, who cares if its a tame shot? would that matter if it was potentially winning save in the CL final? no.

the walcott goal was soft though, gotta work harder to avoid letting in shots like that but he must be gaining confidence in every game.A weak penalty save? there is nothing called a ‘weak’ penalty save as the odds are against the keeper in saving it, i mean he could have easily dived to his left and van persie would be wheeling away in celebration but he saved it, who cares if its a tame shot? would that matter if it was potentially winning save in the CL final? no.

the walcott goal was soft though, gotta work harder to avoid letting in shots like that but he must be gaining confidence in every game.
August 29, 2011 at 04:17
Samuel - united WE stand says:
Kei – you speak like it’s a guarantee that united would definitely go further and meet barcelona in another final or semi/quarter, you still gotta work your way to get there first, there are some top team’s out there.

Secondly, what makes you think buying sneijder would definitely close the gap on barca? they’re an extraordinary side who play a system which is so obvious but so hard to compete against even for the best tacticians however it is not impossible.Kei – you speak like it’s a guarantee that united would definitely go further and meet barcelona in another final or semi/quarter, you still gotta work your way to get there first, there are some top team’s out there.

Secondly, what makes you think buying sneijder would definitely close the gap on barca? they’re an extraordinary side who play a system which is so obvious but so hard to compete against even for the best tacticians however it is not impossible.
August 29, 2011 at 04:25
YorYor says:
@Samuel,
Plenty of those banging on the table for Huntelaar, Hulk, Ozil, and [insert the next "big" name bandied about in the papers] in the past. Everytime an exotic name comes up, plenty of FM-managers check out their stats in the latest release of FM and starts harping about how they’d improve us after the “player” scores X and assists Y in their saved game.
August 29, 2011 at 04:41
Kei says:
@Samuel – united WE Stand:

I think you read my comments too fast:
1. I didn’t say it was a weak penalty save. I said it was a weak penalty kick. And I did not discount his save either, as I said it was a brilliant save. But I was more impressed with his save from Arshravin (turns out it wasn’t Persie) long show. The reason being it repels what people have been saying about him (he’s not good at saving a long range shot.. which I hardly disagree)

2. When I mentioned Barca, I was responding to FIBE’s comment as he was saying that in a few months this team would tear down Barca. I disagree and hence my comment.

3. I don’t know where did you get the impression of me saying, getting Sniejder would close the gap with Barca. I’m totally confused
Please read again my comment thoroughly. As I said, if the boss wanted him, I’d welcomed him.. and that would also benefit Tom Cleverly from playing alongside with someone senior. If not than I believe Sir Alex’s decision is sufficient -as always-
August 29, 2011 at 04:43
Samuel - united WE stand says:
Its fair to say anderson is starting to show the guile and class that i’ve thought was maybe lacking in his game, he looks confident strong and determined, he has regained his samba magic, he has improved his composure and passing, he seems to have matured greatly and looks in tip top physical shape.

With him and cleverly, they’re both gradually building up a partnership with their one/two touch passing, and also he has added a goal scoring threat which is all good.

I don’t wanna over hype but exciting times are ahead whilst also expect rough patches on this premier league long marathon like journey. and passing, he seems to have matured greatly and looks in tip top physical shape.

With him and cleverly, they’re both gradually building up a partnership with their one/two touch passing, and also he has added a goal scoring threat which is all good.

I don’t wanna over hype but exciting times are ahead whilst also expect rough patches on this premier league long marathon like journey.
August 29, 2011 at 04:51
Samuel - united WE stand says:
Yoryor – flavour of the month i guess lol people need to realise that to compete against the very best, united has to play as a team and not individual’s, this i
August 29, 2011 at 04:57
Samuel - united WE stand says:
Kei – hey its nearly 5am here so maybe i’m guilty of misreading but yes i’d agree the stick de gea gets even for minimal mistakes is over the top and when he does something good, people don’t give him credit but i understand you on that point.

Secondly on sneijder, i myself wouldn’t say no if he was bought by the club (pretty unlikely now) but all even if he was bought, all i’m saying is we gotta be careful not to think he would be some midfield one man messiah, however he is quality.Kei – hey its nearly 5am here so maybe i’m guilty of misreading but yes i’d agree the stick de gea gets even for minimal mistakes is over the top and when he does something good, people don’t give him credit but i understand you on that point.

Secondly on sneijder, i myself wouldn’t say no if he was bought by the club (pretty unlikely now) but all even if he was bought, all i’m saying is we gotta be careful not to think he would be some midfield one man messiah, however he is quality.
August 29, 2011 at 05:11
Kei says:
@Samuel:
Hehehe understandable brother

Yeah that was my stance too in regards to big players sign up. If the boss feels the team needs them then we need them, if not then his decision is sufficient for me.
August 29, 2011 at 05:39
dela says:
Did last night really happen or is the whiskey playing tricks on my mind?
August 29, 2011 at 06:14
Marq says:
I think many of us are pleasently surprised how good a player Young is, especially in our setup. To think there were many who questioned him signing.

Overall, good performance, reminds me of our style back in 98/99, a proper 4-4-2 formation, attacking with no regard to whom the opposition is. That was our problem last season, we gave alot of teams too much respect playing 4-5-1 especially away from home.

With all the attacking intend of many of our young players, one player actually stands out as the mature one. Step forward Tom Cleverley. He does not run forward all the time, he checks, finds some space, makes simple passes, keeping things flowing. With more experience under his belt, he could be the player controlling our play from the middle.

Kinda feel sorry for Arsenal and Wenger, they deserve better, but that is life for you, brutally realistic. Either you improve, or you get left behind, and for them, it was worst, they went backwards with 2 important players leaving.

Sir Alex was class, you could see he probably did not want the score to be so heavy, that is the respect he gives to other teams, and what he gets back in return.

On a side note, Costas pointed out, the thing with Anderson hiding behind the wall during a free kick and toying with the goalkeeper was hilarious. Imagine you preparing to face a free kick, and there you have a round face staring at you, haha
August 29, 2011 at 06:24
Jumping Jesus says:
To all the doubters who were less than enthusiastic about us signing Ashley Young, who didn’t rate him—-HA!
August 29, 2011 at 06:44
Omare_ says:
XI-Men First Class!
August 29, 2011 at 06:56
Vilhelm28 says:
Very good game against a shocking Arsenal. There is still too much room behind Ando/Clev infront of our 2 CD’s. But from listeningto SAF, he seems to know it.

But the balance going forward is great with Nani and Young in support both on the winger and in the middle – very difficult to defend against.
August 29, 2011 at 06:57
Costas says:
Arsenal got some impressive stats yesterday. They finally scored more than 1 goal in the Premiership at OT and they have more red cards than goals so far this season.
August 29, 2011 at 07:00
MontanaRed says:
Hey gents, let’s not get too down on le Arse quite yet. Look, they can still win trophies.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/28/arsenal-win-womens-super-league

bwhahahaha
August 29, 2011 at 07:01
Dragonslayer says:
Marq says:
On a side note, Costas pointed out, the thing with Anderson hiding behind the wall during a free kick and toying with the goalkeeper was hilarious. Imagine you preparing to face a free kick, and there you have a round face staring at you, haha

Well, football is kind of a fun way. You can torment the other players and also distract the opponents. Especially in clash of the Titans, you can bet this hilarious thing will torment your opponent quite badly. I think some have heard of the back heel penalty scoring, the keeper was stunned till he lets a weak ball rolled into the goal. It’s very amusing how much you can do to pile up the tension.

Even Rooney did use his body ( I think it his butt) to stop an Arsenal player from stealing the ball from behind. The player stopped at the position not knowing what Rooney was doing. After that Rooney began to attack.
August 29, 2011 at 07:10
Mangesh says:
Great game. Howard Webb should have done better here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHSkRJxjyPQ
August 29, 2011 at 07:16
Costas says:
It was also hillarious to see Walcott act like mr captain fantastic and shout out orders to Jenkinson. But then again, this is the same guy that wrote an autobiography at the age of 22…
August 29, 2011 at 07:17
nksimp says:
great performance by the lads yesterday. one thing that really excited me besides the free flowing football on display was the free kick setups between young and rooney. caught everyone by surprise

on another note, one thing that pissed me off was how arshavin tt little cunt managed to stay on the field for all 90minutes.
August 29, 2011 at 07:30
Notey90 says:
was I the only one that spotted Evra’s reaction after Youngy’s 2nd goal (when jubilating beside A.Young)? It was undescribable and I fuckn love it.

United in Glory!
August 29, 2011 at 07:45
lordrt says:
my best picks:
Rooney’s 2 FKs, seems like the rebirth of D.Beckham in him lol
Young’s 25 yard curler
Definitely men against boys in that match, and i hope the Red Devils keep marching on like this, as the bitters are doing well themselves and putting the pressure on
August 29, 2011 at 07:48
Costas says:
Just watching the highlights on MOTD. Hansen pointed out how Rosicky didn’t even care to look where Rooney’s 1st free kick ended up. When your most experienced player on the pitch displays such piss poor attitude, what can you expect from the rest?
August 29, 2011 at 08:58
dazbomber says:
Back to the grey sky’s of Salford after my week in the sun to Watch Uniteds youth slaughter le Arse .Good to see goals from long range happy days
August 29, 2011 at 08:58
CedarsDevil says:
Really looking forward to the Arsenal game today, I hope we play the young lads again to show us what they’ve got…

Funny thing is I had a dream last night about this match, I will not mention details as some of you may laugh at me as the scoreline was ridiculous!
August 29, 2011 at 09:21
TonyBee says:
morning Cedars mate … I haven’t stopped smiling yet……

We certainly put a marker down yesterday……..

I hear that SAF is going to get the Manchester Fire Brigade at our next home game …we were that fucking hot ….
August 29, 2011 at 09:30
CedarsDevil says:
Hiya TonyBee

Same here, I honestly still cannot believe it. To be honest once we scored the 7th I was more in shock than jubilation, I did not know how to celebrate anymore!
Just like that 9 nil against Ipswich these sort of scorelines only happen every 15 years or so and it was great to witness the latest one yesterday…

Happy days
August 29, 2011 at 09:38
TonyBee says:
to be truthful I wanted us to score 10 or 11 and punish them for seasons before,,,,wish MOTD had that lurch looking cunt Keown on the sofa ….still remember that cunt jumping all over RVN when he missed that penalty….
August 29, 2011 at 09:40
TonyBee says:
I missed the Man U v Arsenal match as I was having a sex session with my wife, but I got the goal updates on my phone which was handy as I used it as a vibrator.
August 29, 2011 at 09:41
TonyBee says:
What do Arsenal fans and Gadaffi supporters have in common?
Even though it’s plain for the world to see they’re fucked….. they still believe in their leader!
August 29, 2011 at 09:42
TonyBee says:
Reports of both rape and bestiality are coming in from Manchester.

Apparently, over 70,000 witnessed the raping of a frog and 11 men.
August 29, 2011 at 09:43
TonyBee says:
Harry Redknapp is sitting in a pub drowning his sorrows when in walks a glum Arsene Wenger.

“Et tu Brute?” says Harry.

“Don’t you fucking start, I’m fed up hearing ze fucking score,” replied Wenger
August 29, 2011 at 09:47
TonyBee says:
Doctors have stated that Didier Drogba’s condition has not improved despite their best efforts to help him from his current plight.
They fear he will always be a cunt.
August 29, 2011 at 09:47
Mr C says:
Arsenal were really shocking yesterday – Djourou is the worst centre back I can remember seeing for a long, long time. So for my part I’m just going to enjoy the result and the mayhem our win has wrought on an old enemy and potential rivals without getting into any hyperbole as far as United is concerned. That would be complacent. Handing out a beating like that inflicted on Arsenal is worth more than the nominal 3 points given the fear it will instill in other sides who still have to come to Old Trafford.

That being said, when you face a crap side like the Arsenal side put out yesterday you still need to do the business and put them to the sword without mercy. And the lads did that yesterday – all but the first of our 8 goals were excellent goals in their own right created by intelligent play.
August 29, 2011 at 09:47
mara says:
When i saw 8:2…i couldnt believe…. i remember Tottenham 8:1…
We play great, i m just sorry about Sneijder…but if we win trophys who cares about him. We spent less then others, but play much better…we have value for our money, like SAF said…
August 29, 2011 at 09:47
CedarsDevil says:
TonyBee

Hahaha, hilarious…. Out of curiosity, where was your phone placed exactly?
August 29, 2011 at 09:48
TonyBee says:
Gary Cahill has handed in a written transfer request at Bolton. It reads……

“Please Mr Coyle dont answer the phone to Arsene Wenger”
August 29, 2011 at 09:52
TonyBee says:
phone was between he cheeks of me ass….so we both got the benefit…. hahahahahahah just cant stop laughing….
August 29, 2011 at 09:53
Balaji Sivaraman says:
@Cedars, I watched Source Code a few days ago and was left shellshocked at the film’s climax, much like I was after watching Inception last year. But those were both sci-fi films and not reality. This was motherfucking reality and that left me even more shellshocked. I was in a similar boat to you after the 7th went in. I was just jumping goofily around here, falling on the floor and there with the biggest grin I’ve ever had on my face – one that hasn’t left my face still.

Kevin Williams in The Guardian

One quote that got my blood flowing more than yesterday’s match could: “In effect, Sir Alex Ferguson had taken him on at his own game – the placing of trust in skill, enterprise and gilded youth – and triumphed in every conceivable dimension.” – I am sorry but how the fuck is it Arsene Wenger’s game. The placing of trust in youth has never paid off for The Professor. Yet, The Master, has rebuilt team after team by placing the foundation on youth and been successful all the time. Wenger is given far too much credit for having brought through a few very good players. Sir Alex has actually been successful doing the same and isn’t given any credit at all.
August 29, 2011 at 10:03
CedarsDevil says:
Hi Balaji – I think you and I get the games on the same channel (PLTV) Did you notice Townsend after the match? I have never seen the cunt look so depressed! He really should work on hiding his obvious hate…. Nonetheless I bet the scoreline really hurt him, more so the performance…. Bastard was all raving and smiles after the shitty game….
August 29, 2011 at 10:13
Costas says:
Out of curiosity, do Ashley Young’s 2 set ups for Rooney count as assists? Because if they do, those are the two laziest asissts I’ve ever heard of.
August 29, 2011 at 10:16
Giggsy's Lawyer says:
YES CLINT!!! lol
August 29, 2011 at 10:18
Balaji Sivaraman says:
Cedars, I watch all my games through streams unfortunately. I usually get on of the streams using Sky as their base, so thankfully I get to watch Gary for the most part.

That doesn’t change the fact that Townsend is a cunt of the highest order. As is Phil Thompson, Mike Summerbee, Jamie Redknapp, and anybody who isn’t Gary Neville. I hope the aforementioned people are hanging their head in shame looking at how Gary gets about his business. He was remarkably calm after analyzing the match performance yesterday. Knowing Gary to be an emotional person as we all do, it would’ve been excruciatingly difficult for him to act like that to supress the grin from his face. The fact that he was able to do that demonstrates the class instilled in him by us and the measure of what a top bloke he is.

As for the Rooney conversation that occurred yesterday after I slept. I will say that I have always considered Wayne to be a better player than Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldo, Sneijder etc. This was before his “ambition” saga and even when he was out of form last year. As I said above, they are all great players technically, but none of them can match the all-around ability of Wayne. Will Messi be able to sustain on a cold,winter night at Stoke? I doubt it. Will Wayne be able to hold his own in the current Barcelona team playing technically better football? Hell fucking yeah. That is what makes Wayne the player he is and always has been. The fact that he is not only good technically, but also physcially, and as a leader as well. I will say this again: Wayne Rooney is the best player in the world when playing to his best, and I wouldn’t trade him for a million Messis or Ronaldos.

Another comment pointed out something brilliant that we have always known, I have no idea whether it was from a United fan.

*Manchester United have been the only constant in the Premier League. Under Sir Alex, we have consistently re-invented ourselves playing different styles of football, using different players, yet have remained successful at the top. Looking at the current setup, that success is set to continue for the foreseeable future with even more youth players coming through.
*The only few clubs who have consistently challenged us on a short-tem are those with more effective financial means. It was Blackburn for a while, then it was Chelsea and now it is Manchester City.
*A few clubs have challenged us on-off, but have never been able to keep their success for more than a few years continuously, and have eventually faded away when more powerful clubs have flexed their financial muscles. Examples are Liverpool, Newcastle, Tottenham and, recently, Arsenal as well.

However, the one constant is Manchester United F.C. We will always be the team to beat, and our success lies at the feet of one man and one man only – Sir Alexander Chapman Ferguson.
August 29, 2011 at 10:40
Vishal S says:
The performance yesterday was stunning.
And Balaji, you just stole the words from my mouth. Rooney is by far a player better than Messi and xavi.
Those five minutes, (Rooney’s second, Nani and park’s goal) was a glimpse of the future.
And this stupid break had just come at the wrong time!! Wish we played Citeh next week.
Special praise for Young. He was sensational. Except Rooney, i can’t recall a player who has adjusted into the team with so much ease.
And on a side note, got to pity Arsenal.
August 29, 2011 at 10:43
CedarsDevil says:
Balaji you thief
August 29, 2011 at 10:54
Heywood is Red says:
Costas
ha hadn’t even thought of that but if he does he’ll b buzzin!!
Just cannot say how happy was yesterday. Djorou has got to be the worst def in the league, even worst than bramble. Jenkinson not taking advice of walcott was funny for us but disconcerting for arsenal. Laughed my tits off when anderson face mooned at szcszcszcszcszeney. De gea dodgy for first- sorry had to be said. Rooney’s free kicks were exquisite. I didn’t think young would be this good, weren.t buzzing bout his signing but happily stand corrected. Did say this would be anderson’s year though. Jones is gonna be immense. Smalling is fantastic.
Used to hate playing arsenal, but yesterday was just humiliating for them. Costas
ha hadn’t even thought of that but if he does he’ll b buzzin!!
Just cannot say how happy was yesterday. Djorou has got to be the worst def in the league, even worst than bramble. Jenkinson not taking advice of walcott was funny for us but disconcerting for arsenal. Laughed my tits off when anderson face mooned at szcszcszcszcszeney. De gea dodgy for first- sorry had to be said. Rooney’s free kicks were exquisite. I didn’t think young would be this good, weren.t buzzing bout his signing but happily stand corrected. Did say this would be anderson’s year though. Jones is gonna be immense. Smalling is fantastic.
Used to hate playing arsenal, but yesterday was just humiliating for them.
August 29, 2011 at 10:59
Dragonslayer says:
To me, Rooney played more roles compared to Cristiano Ronaldo ever did. One thing I am grateful of is Rooney never left us like Ronaldo for Real Madrid. Ronaldo was a great player but I never felt like United playing as a team (like the current team does) when he is around.

Rooney did not complain much when he was overshadowed by CR7.
He continued to support others when he cannot score.
He does not hold the ball to himself and usually find whoever that has the best opportunity to convert them to goal.
Even when he was not at his best, he leads the team to fight back, not knowing when to give up.
Through efforts,he still shine when many faded away outclass by other .
He keep improving himself when others have stopped.
He has mature much since the time Ferguson took him under his wing.
His ambition is wilder and bigger than even Ferguson can imagined.
Rooney is indeed one of the best United can ever get.

I can see the pride Rooney carried as a football player. I wonder what will happen if Ronaldo has stayed with us and he was more of a team player just like Rooney. Perhaps seeing them tearing through the roof of Barcelona like a Hurricane and Tsunami is just not enough to describe the damage they can do. Dream is a dream. Nothing can be said about how much Rooney meant for us in the run to being a Europe champion.
August 29, 2011 at 11:00
gerkeo says:
“We had eight players out, United have class and they punished us. This game was not an 8-2, it was harsh for us.”

Aresen Wenger post match 28th August 2011

“It was 8 but could have been 18″
Alan Hansen MOTD2 28th August 2011

funny, they mush have be
August 29, 2011 at 11:01
Ancha says:
http://www.thebusbybabe.com/2011/8/29/2390625/how-manchester-united-demolished-arsenal-fc-a-10-second-non-scoring

excellent analysis

Cedars

Good morning sir

that was brutally funny! your dream and all! I hope you dream like that on every match day

Balaji

Comparing Rooney & Messi isn’t on the cards for me, not right now atleast, I would say Rooney has the talent to match Messi in a different way like for eg. messi’s dribbling ability & close control is plain ridiculous where as Rooney’s Vision, passing range & accuracy is also plain ridiculous, so what I’m saying is both have different skill set and one major difference between the two is consistency, while messi has been brutally consistent over the last three seasons Rooney has yet to show that level of consistency, and I’m very confident that he will be consistent from now on, let’s see if he can and then we can say that we have the best & complete footie player on the planet wearing our colors
August 29, 2011 at 11:02
Doghouse says:
Difference between Rooney and Messi is that Messi can be stopped.
August 29, 2011 at 11:03
Mr C says:
@Balaji: ‘I will say that I have always considered Wayne to be a better player than Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Ronaldo, Sneijder etc’

You write well and I share your joy at yesterday’s result but no way is Rooney a better player than Messi, Xavi or Iniesta. Sneidjer, possibly, but that’s another reason why some of us didn’t want him (Sneidjer that is). It’s a team game and it’s a bit unfair togo overboard in singling out individuals when the overall team is delivering. There’s no way SAF has ever built a side around one player – that’s never been the United way – and it would be folly to do so around ‘Mr Ambition’. It’s about systems of play. Rooney fits into that system and is in form and the addition or coming of age of the likes of Jones, Young, Cleverley, and Nani has added an urgency and positivity to our play that our front men are benefiting from. That being said, I don’t even think we’ve put out our strongest side as yet. Park looked excellent when he came on, and our two best strikers are still on the bench….
August 29, 2011 at 11:05
gerkeo says:
funny must have been watching a different game
August 29, 2011 at 11:08
Passe says:
Costas:
Yes they do! Had Young in my Fantasy premer team and he got assists for both of them
August 29, 2011 at 11:09
fergie is the boss says:
Balaji Sivaraman – the side between 2005 – 11 was all about experience and finally unlocking the code code of finally knowing how to play the game in europe. I would say the side was not much built around youth.

Now the current side I say is back to that model again, its youth policy has come out in full circle has patience has finally paid off, with a style of football who’s short passing game is the best in the prem by a mile. That is whats changed about united, their style of play has completely changed
August 29, 2011 at 11:10
Samuel - united WE stand says:
Im a huge Rooney fan, i admire his fantastic technical abilities but messi, that little argentine bastard is on another level, of course wayne can reach this level but he’ll have to step up 2 or 3 top gears and be absolutely breathtaking consistently all season to do this as barca and messi aren’t going anytime soon but Rooney undoubtedly can reach this level.
August 29, 2011 at 11:12
parryheid says:
For a so called bad team Arsenal did something not many if any will do Score two goals at Old Trafford
August 29, 2011 at 11:12
oneloveoneunited says:
yes costas, young’s little stops for rooney counts for assists. Whoever had both in their team will have a huge total at the end of the weekend. I had only rooney as my captain

anyways, incredible result and like someone else on here has said, i didnt know how to celebrate after 5-1.

Did go mental for young’s 2nd goal though, shouting ‘top of the league!’ in a room of bitter abus.
August 29, 2011 at 11:13
Costas says:
As far as absences go, Arsenal were missing 4 key players: Sagna, Vermaelen, Wilshere and Song. However, by the same token we were missing Rafael, Vidic, Fletcher and Carrick. People might point towards Arsenal’s inexperience, yet our side’s age average was younger. Wenger has been lauded for his youth policy, but the truth is that he doesn’t always give them all the fundementals required and there will be cases like yesterday where the shit will hit the fan.
August 29, 2011 at 11:17
Costas says:
@oneloveoneunited, Passe

Cheers guys. Well that’s one of the best examples of stats not telling the whole story. Heck, I could get assists like that.

Young is already on 4 assists this season then.

@Heywood is Red

If I was Jenkinson I’d blow off Walcott too, lol. I mean the little brat is still trying to figure out how his dick worksm yet he’s trying to shout instructions to the others. I wonder if he will put that in the sequel to his biography which will be released when he turns 25…
August 29, 2011 at 11:19
Samuel - united WE stand says:
You know damn well people will get carried away with this scoreline but performances like that won’t happen all season.You know damn well people will get carried away with this scoreline but performances like that won’t happen all season.
August 29, 2011 at 11:20
Ancha says:
http://www.stretford-end.com/2011/08/talking-points-united-8-2-arsenal/

another excellent analysis!
August 29, 2011 at 11:21
fergie is the boss says:
Costas -exactly, but arsenal’s huge problem is they can barely put out a starting 11, let along replace players when they are injured. But like merson said, how many of those injured players would get into the united side
August 29, 2011 at 11:23
verboven says:
Wayne Rooney=WORLD CLASS!!!!!
August 29, 2011 at 11:27
scan74 says:
have 2 say it all my time of going united yesterday was the most surreal game ive ever been 2

for a chap .use 2 games against on arsenals famous defence and the massive games against vieira henry and co i couldnt believe what a piss poor bunch wenger has allowed them become

dont get me wrong the shirts were excellent wazza ashley were fantastic and 4 me anderson has been excellent so far this year

but i have 2 say strangley this soppy old fucker felt the gooners yesterday no way a club of that size and stature should be performing like that

even more reason 2 cherish SAF and marvel and what he has done 4 our club

onward and upwards

19
August 29, 2011 at 11:28
Ancha says:
Great point Costas!

a lot of them in the media decided to overlook how many seniors we haven’t played yesterday
Rio, Vidic, Rafael, carrick, fletcher, Berbatov,
giggsy & park came on after that game is dead & buried, so that counts to 8 first team players
the fact is that there is a huge difference in class & talent between young ones of both the clubs
you have to laugh at the fact that the whole media was singing praises of Wenger’s Youth development for the past few years
August 29, 2011 at 11:28
scan74 says:
oh and 4got get fit soon danny lad real shame looks like a month out hope he gets back and shows this kind of form 4 the shirts
August 29, 2011 at 11:35
kev e says:
I’m loving how well Young has settled in to the team. The banter between him and Paddy after his second goal was awesome. You get the feeling that the dressing room is jumping and he’s at the heart of it. He reminds me of Yorkie in a lot of ways. We all know what happened when Dwight joined. The fact that they’re all playing with fire in their bellies and a smile on their faces bodes well.

On another point… Did anyone see how pissed The Pea looked when both Nani and Young scored because they hadn’t crossed to him! Love that guy. The team’s winning 7-2 and he still knows he needs to get on the scoresheet. He’s in danger of being left behind!! I think Nani is feeling the pressure exerted by Young as well. Everyone is trying to impress the boss… can’t wait for Fletch and Valencia to be fit to join in the fight…
August 29, 2011 at 11:41
Mr C says:
@Heywood is Red:

‘ Djorou has got to be the worst def in the league, even worst than bramble’

Ouch! Harsh but fair.

Yesterday’s result was worth well more than the 3 points, and not just for the entertainment value. It has imploded Arsenal as a club. Been reading the Arsenal fans’ comments elsewhere this morning. Hilarious! Most want Wenger’s head on a platter – the pitchforks and flaming torches are out. This is what happens when the highest season ticket prices in the country doesn’t match the product on the pitch. Let ‘em burn.

The only possible downside for us is that of more and more teams, even better sides, will likely try parking the bus when they play us. It won’t work though..
August 29, 2011 at 11:41
Costas says:
@FITB

I heard what Merson said, but if you believe the media, Wilshere can walk into the Barca team. So I don’t know what he was smoking there.

@ancha

Hi mate. I wouldn’t even count the likes of Rio, Giggs, Park and Berba. They were fit and it was the manager’s choice not to play them. The truth is that Sir Alex has done a better job of bringing in young players to the side. Plus, unlike Wenger’s policy, loaning out the youngsters to other sides is beneficial. Welbeck and Tom have profited from that. Just like Jones and Smalling did from their stints at Blackburn and Fulham.
August 29, 2011 at 11:51
CedarsDevil says:
Full highlights from MOTD……. Enjoy

http://www.footytube.com/video/manchester-united-arsenal-aug28-88914?ref=hp_ozeit_mp
August 29, 2011 at 11:55
lordrt says:
So will Berba leave before the transfer deadline? He has played only against West Brom, that too like a “special appearance”, while Owen is yet to feature even on the bench. Any news of Welbeck as well, given he limped off with a hamstring injury, just at the time he was imposing himself in the team
August 29, 2011 at 11:59
fergie is the boss says:
Costas – very true. You look at cleverly compared to Wilshere even when he broke in to the arsenal side he seemed pressured. I look at young tom, he has got his feet up with a cigar running the show. What also pisses me off is, the media and annoying united fans along with the pundits all hype up Wilshere, yet when cleverly is breaking through still we have annoying united fans moaning we need WS this and WS that, even the media are still not giving cleverly much credit even though they have hyped the tom up.
August 29, 2011 at 12:07
Balaji Sivaraman says:
@Cedars, You know cable is shit expensive over here and I’m not much of a TV guy unfortunately. Anything I watch, films and TV shows, all are done on the PC. I have no reason to pay for cable only to watch one sports channel. To be honest, the Sopcast streams I receive have stupendous quality in HD on a 40-inch television. I don’t think I could get that even through cable.

@Mr. C, “The only possible downside for us is that of more and more teams, even better sides, will likely try parking the bus when they play us. It won’t work though.” – And that is why we have a certain Dimitar Berbatov still on our payroll despite interest from elsewhere. Not to mention more direct players like Valencia as well. Simply put, we have an answer for every situation the league can throw us right now. Want a physical game – throw Fletcher and Anderson in. A more technical game, throw Tom and Ando/Carrick in. 0-0 for a long time, throw the experience of Giggs and Berbatov in to break the stranglehold. I can give countless more examples like that.

Mr. C and Ancha, It is a matter of personal preference mates. For me, I won’t want anyone else in our team ahead of Rooney. Personally, Rooney is the best player in the world when he is playing like he did yesterday. And Mr. C, I wouldn’t say we are entirely dependant on Rooney, but there is little doubt that he is the lynchpin of this team. He is the Eric Cantona to this set of kids, that is of no doubt IMHO.

Ancha, Thanks for the links to those amazing analyses. Was a pleasure to read through them.

Jim White on Telegraph

Brilliant quote from that article: “In their midst, as lost and hapless as the rest, was Aaron Ramsey, who three seasons ago announced that he was signing for Arsenal ahead of United because he believed that under Wenger he had a better chance of developing as a young footballer. So how exactly is that going, Aaron?”
August 29, 2011 at 12:09
Costas says:
@FITB

In my view, the longer the media keep the focus off Tom, the better it is for him. I don’t like all the circus like environment they create around England players. It’s very easy to believe your hype after all the nonsense. Wilshere isn’t the perfect example of this, but look at Dawson. Someone the rags have said might keep Ferdinand out of the England side even when Rio’s fit. How did Dawson do against City by the way?
August 29, 2011 at 12:12
Troy says:
Wow, and to think that when Valencia comes back we will be even more dangerous.
August 29, 2011 at 12:16
Balaji Sivaraman says:
@Costas, This brilliant article from Gary Neville exactly hightlights what you mean. One bad performance from Tom for England and the papers will be all over him like he is a lamb for slaughter. I fucking hate the British media. The longer they wank over Bale, Wilshere, Ramsey and whoever else they can find, the better it is for us.

I don’t want anybody wanking over how good Manchester United are unless it is someone related to the club or us fans. Everybody can go fuck themselves for all I care. It is better if they hate us, because that only makes us more stronger than we already are.
August 29, 2011 at 12:21
fergie is the boss says:
Costas – I guarantee if shitty or barcelona beat arsenal 8 2 they would be wanking to death over those 2 sides. Hilarious how some think shitty’s performance was better, when we look at allot of united’s goals they were unstoppable. We play the better football, we have built a squad that has been a mix of smart buying and bringing players through the academy, it would not surprise me ifwelbeck stayed on the field it could have been 10 or 11 – 2 or even 12 – 2
August 29, 2011 at 12:24
fergie is the boss says:
I do not see anyone in the media put more analysis over how united’s style of play has completely changed from last season, one said have united stolen arsenals football from 2 years ago LOL
August 29, 2011 at 12:30
Balaji Sivaraman says:
@FITB, I swear I am going to snap a kitten’s neck if somebody compares our early season football to Barcelona or Arsenal. What we are doing is not fucking tiki-taka. If somebody writes that it was Barcelona-esque, I may just have to become a serial killer. This is the Manchester United way. The way we played at our best during the 1990s and especially in the treble season. The way that was instilled into us by a certain Sir Matt Busby and carried on under Sir Alex Ferguson. There is no way Arsenal or Barca would’ve been as direct as we have been this season so far. No way they would’ve scored so many different “types” of goals that we have. No way they would’ve played with so many different tactics as we have. Fuck Barcelona. Fuck Arsenal. If anyone wants to compare our early season form with anybody at all, it should be with the United sides of yore. This has been Manchester United back to their fucking best. Period. Nobody else can come close to that.
August 29, 2011 at 12:33
Vilhelm28 says:
Lets not get totally carried away here. Rooney better than Messi and stuff like that is plain stupid. We have played well in attack , but we have played against 3 very bad teams. The way Spurs and Arsenal are playing and the squads they have, is nothing better than middle of the pack clubs.

Fact is that we are still very naive in defense (ref Neville and SAF after the game), both in our back 4 as well as behind our central midfielders. There is a lot of room and all three teams we have played have had much time passing the ball around our box. When we meet better teams and better finishers, we will be punished unless we fix it. First half stats against Arsenal say 5-3 in chanses in our favour as well as a penalty for Arsenal. We had the ball the most, but we still give our opponent to many chanses given our possesion.

Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good start to the season, but we need to tighten the ship for our away games.
August 29, 2011 at 12:35
CedarsDevil says:
Balaji – lol

My reference to you being a thief was a response to a poster who said that you stole the words out of his mouth and not to do with cable or web viewing!
August 29, 2011 at 12:37
Balaji Sivaraman says:
Oh, and I do have one bone of contention with our performance yesterday, and the reason why it was not perfect for me.

Anderson did not score and, as a result, we could not see him do his own take on the Brazilian Samba like last week.

@Vilhelm, “Rooney better than Messi and stuff like that is plain stupid.” – Not looking to start a debate here, and I know this was not directed at anyone, but trying to make myself clear. This is my preference. I will say that “I” consider Wayne Rooney to be a better all around player than Lionel Messi when both are playing to their absolute best. “I” would want Rooney ahead of Messi on my team anyday of the week. I don’t care what other people think but that is what I feel. That is not getting carried away in the slightest, I have felt like this for over 6 years now, and I don’t think that will change ever.
August 29, 2011 at 12:46
Costas says:
@Balaji

Hey, take it easy on the kittens. Anyway, thanks for the read. That was brilliant insight into the England camp. But the last part pissed me off. I can’t believe he tried to get Gerrard to join us!

@FITB

In fairness, CIty have built a good team, but no one can say for sure if they’ll last . The problem right now is that due to all the hype, many teams are afraid to have a go at them. Like Bolton last week or Tottenham yesterday.
August 29, 2011 at 13:02
Fibes says:
@Vilhelm – Naive defending? I think what you’re really seeing is the embodiment of the United way, the way it was with the Babes, with Best/Law/Charlton – it’s the “you score three, we’ll score four” – football the way it should be played. It’s not as tight as last season because so far we have done without the holding midfielder, Ando and Clevers playing box to box gives us more options, and the opposition more to worry about. I’m sure all of us would rather watch brilliant attacking play than stoic, 11 behind the ball defending.
August 29, 2011 at 13:05
Balaji Sivaraman says:
BTW, where’s smartalex and Willie?

I wonder what our friend from the South of Africa feels about his prediction that Arsenal will finish second behind United?

Gutsy call, some would say.
August 29, 2011 at 13:07
Mr C says:
@Balaji. We’ll never agree on the Rooney thing so I’ll park that issue here. We do agree however on doing it the ‘United way’. I hate Barca’s tippy-tappy / ticka tacki or whatever their system called. Sure, it effective but it’s also boring, just like the Spanish national side, and laced with cheating. Barca have to play that way because they’re a bunch of midgets upfront. Sure, it’s effective. No other team plays their system and as Barca are disciplined and talented it causes opponents unique problems. They will be found out this season if not by us by someone else – Mourihuo tried kicking them off the park but that doesn’t work as with Barca’s diving ability you will be down to 10 men in less than no time.
August 29, 2011 at 13:08
Balaji Sivaraman says:
@Cedars, LOL! I know you meant it in jest, but I couldn’t quite place it in context and ended up making a bigger fool of myself.
August 29, 2011 at 13:12
Notey90 says:
It feels great to be a Red………cheers.
August 29, 2011 at 13:21
CedarsDevil says:
Balaji – smartalex is busy shopping for the gift he owes me after our bet at the start of the season…

Willie it seems was apprehended by local police after running around naked with the number 8 sprayed on his chest
August 29, 2011 at 13:22
Mahesh says:
I think saying the defense is ‘very naive’ is harsh, but there is point to be made there. However, its not a worry, because little blips in concentration and decision making are to be expected with 19-20 years olds that we have in De Gea, Jones, Smalling etc. Especially playing for a United team where we will usually have most of the possession in a game, and these young lads might go maybe 10-15 minutes without anything major to do and then suddenly have to switch on. I think those are things that will sort themselves out with time and experience, and will be cut out once Vida and Rio are back – if they do indeed get back in the squad. I think dislodging Smalling and Jones in particular will be hard, they are very good. Evra has been a little lacklustre, and Evans has been really good but has been less impressive than Jones for me, in some of his positional play and something distinctive lack of pace and acceleration. Like I said though, all these are errors which are down to lack of experience, and are issues that will get sorted with time.

The Rooney-Messi debate I really don’t want to jump into. I would not swap Rooney for anyone in the world, including Messi. BUT, I do think Messi is on a whole different planet at this point – and lets forget about the genius that Messi seems to pull out of his pocket ALL the time for a second. When Rooney can pull out world class performances, week in week out, year after year, for a few years, I will at that point start putting Rooney on the same level as Messi (and Ronaldo for that matter). It is to the credit of both teams though that they have allowed Rooney and Messi to do their stuff – only with Rooney the team has literally had to carry him through some terrible patches of form, which never seems to happen with Messi. On potential, maybe I would put them on the same level (although they are completely different kinds of players in my eye) but on end product I think Rooney has some ways to go, and I think more than anyone else he knows that!
August 29, 2011 at 13:25
FletchTHEMAN says:
WR10 Re Bobby Charltons record 256 goals for United:

“It’s a target for me, to try and do that. Hopefully, in the next few years, I can do it.”

Yeah mate, you just go and do that. Brilliant if he gets that committed ! Well….. beyond brilliant really.
Lad must have eat his Ronaldo Wheaties before the match!

Get stuck in!!!!!
August 29, 2011 at 14:06
fergie is the boss says:
Balaji Sivaraman – it has the barca style about it, in the way united are now using the short passing game which we never used last season, something major has been worked on in training all summer long. But united hit sides in the classic united way, fast and furious but with intelligence and guile. It is a new united I have not seen since 1993/94 sides and the 1998/99 sides.
August 29, 2011 at 14:17
fergie is the boss says:
Costas – I agree they have, they are going to be a major threat. But what they lack for me is the way they pass the ball can be off. United’s only weakness for me is the GK, when de gea settles and improves his overall game, like handle shots from distance etc. I do not see a weakness in the side.
August 29, 2011 at 14:36
YorYor says:
@fitb, actually I think we have played like that last season, just constrained to a few select bits of the opponents’ half, usually between Nani/Park and Evra and Rooney on the left flank (we’ve really made all other 19 teams’ right backs in the league look pretty much useless).
I suppose the introduction of the youthful and energetic central midfielders encouraged the players to do it wherever they can, especially when the opposition obviously couldn’t quite keep up and the midfielders are getting more involved.
August 29, 2011 at 15:23
fergie is the boss says:
YorYor – maybe since fletcher and berbatov stopped playing in the side and the lineup of carrick giggs and rooney pulling the strings. But anderson cleverly and young put into the midfield this season, has seen united’s engine room improve ten folds
August 29, 2011 at 15:25
King Eric says:
Vilhelm. Trust you to put a negative spin on things. It was a young defence mistakes happen. All in all they were great. Having witnessed Messi in the flesh two or three times heis the best in world BUT rooney has so much more to his game. Vision. Passing sheer power. Work rate. The lot. I would take him all day long.

Fitb. Hello mate. Ha. Loved your tom running the midfield with a cigar in his mouth. That lad is top drawer as I keep saying. Controls the tempo. Keeps it simple. Knows whenb to stay or go. Great passer. Tenacious. Gets into box. He has it all and mark my words in the next two years this lad will be one of the best midfielders about. I love him. Him ad ando make a great pair. Fletch and carrick have a fight on although we all know fergie likes his rotation.

Phil Jones. Oh phillip Jones. What a fucking lad. Fan favourite already. One hell of a player. I can’t type this post quick enough as I am so excited.

Oh and if Iniesta had lobbed that ball over the top for dannys goal we would never see end of it. It was excvellent.

Ha. This is true. Arsenal have offered free tickets for an away game for their fans who had to suffer that yesterday. Seriously.

Oh and we play fuck all lke Barca. That annoys me. Our one and two touch is a marvel but we get the ball into the oppositions box quicker.

United are gonna be a very different animal this season. We have our fear factor back.
August 29, 2011 at 15:30
Zibbie says:
@Balaji here are my thoughts on a young dumb Rooney as Gary said he read the situation wrong.
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/man-utd-legend-neville-lifts-lid-rooney-transfer-demand-1845731
August 29, 2011 at 15:40
King Eric says:
Messi is great at Barca. Put him in an argentina shirt and he is shite. Suppose we can say the same about wayne though. Rooney to me looks the happiest he has for years.

Watched the fascists last night and as much as I loved Ronnie he really annoys me now. Always has that stupid look on his face like he is gonna cry. Also what’s that celebration he does for the last two seasons where he clasps his fingers together?

Ashley young is gonna prove to be a hell of a signing. I was never a fan but fuck me I was wrong. He is class. A hardworker too and has really embraced the United ethos. I have never seen such fantastic team spirit. All the young lads are loving it.
August 29, 2011 at 15:47
YorYor says:
@fitb
Yeah, with Evans, Smalling and Jones all possessing a decent amount of energy and pace, perhaps that negated the need for Carrick to sit in front of the defence.
Berbatov is more than capable of playing this style of football though, would like to see him in the side. A lot of times, I think he’s waiting for the wingers and midfielders to get forward, but some of our players like to “be available” for a simple pass and thus not run into space. Nani especially, at times, i just wish he’d trust whoever’s holding the ball to spot him and just start running into space.

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