Nemanja Vidic played 90 minutes in our 2-0 win over West Brom yesterday, which was our first clean sheet in over a month. He completed more tackles, interceptions, blocks, clearances and won more aerial duels than any player on the pitch.
He hasn’t been thrown in at the deep end since returning from a long spell out with a knee injury but Vidic insists he will improve with more playing time.
“The doctor is managing the games I am playing at the moment,” he told MUTV. “Over the first two or three months I have to really look at that because sometimes I might have a reaction. This is a process I have to go through. I am glad I have managed to play after three months. It is nice to be on the pitch and playing games. Hopefully I can play more often so I can build my form and play better.”
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Looks like he’s on the road to recovery. He looked right. Unlike when he came back at the start of the season, he just didn’t look right, he was getting bullied, looked out of sorts. Yesterday was vintage Vida in many ways. Dominated in the air, looks like he’s lost a bit of pace but that’s not surprising considering the nature of the injury and was making typical Vidic challenges, even looked a real threat from corners again.
I take it Fletch’s illness has flared up again. I was fully expecting him to start a game over this period. Carrick will need a break soon. He’s played the most minutes.
Any news on Ando as well?
Great to see him back just what we need . Evans and Vida – yes, Happy New Year !!
Him and Evans were absolutely fantastic yesterday. That may well be our best partnership for the rest of this season. Long may it continue.
Anyone see Sunday Supplement this morning? That fat homophobic cunt Martin Samuel said there’s no way Ashley Williams meant to kick that ball at RVP and SAF overreacted in his comments. If someone can die from getting kicked in the head by a ball then managers would insist their players don’t charge down the ball.
Obviously tubby has never kicked a ball in his life, he’s too busy at his laptop eating his pies and manufacturing first class dross for the Daily Mail (nuff said).
I find it strange no one has talked about ‘the rabbit punch’. To those saying it can’t kill you i think we should launch a fully pumped ball at 70mph at the back of their head whilst they’re sleeping, lets see if they ever wake up again…cunts!
What’s all this about Real Madrid wanting DDG for £22 Million? It’s all started a bit early hasn’t it?
Have to say Vidic was clearly a top top player out there rather than a youngster that is still learning the ropes. A aura of calm surrounded him and that mattered. For the first time in ages we sat back and absorbed pressure and I didnt feel like we were going to concede like form would have us doing. It was heart renching sitting deep and absorbing pressure of old.
P.S
Any of you, Den and so on who thought my comments last night were wrong in my rant I have posted an explanation in that thread. I worded the comment in such a way it was open to assumption what was meant and was totally undesigned. I didnt in any way think the poor girl in India was a tramp. It was two unrelated sentances. Appologies to anyone who took offence.
NOW IT*S OFFICIAL
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Football-News/2012/Dec/nani-staying-with-manchester-united.aspx
Nani staying put.
Fantastic to see him back and doing so well. As things stand, I don’t think Fergie can pick a settled partnership back there due to Evans’ emergence, Rio’s age and Vida’s delicate situation. But if he can successfully rotate between the 3 of them, it should help tighten up our defence.
I should also say that the recent change of fortunes in our defence have also coincided with the return of going back to one full back being a converted CB. Smalling does a fantastic job as Rafael does as well but Ive always been a fan of having more size and height in the box for set pieces and feel when one of the fullbacks isnt a 6footer we really struggle. Because our wingers arent all that big in body (except Valencia) and our midfield apart from Carrick are all a bunch of midgets.
@Goat – Agree with the height factor at set pieces, but Smalling in open play defending and attacking at RB is pretty poor. Will be a fantastic centre back, not a fan of him at RB though.
Vidic is probably our only defender I’m confident of at winning an aerial dual. The earlier he is back to full fitness, the earlier we can defend better at set pieces
The closer we get to Feb im expecting us to start notching up clean sheets, and the return of our Captain is central to that. After yesterday I hope we don’t ask him to play another 90 mins back to back, especially after such a serious knee injury (cough – ANDO – cough)
Markynorbs
Getting back to you from the van der sar thread, got offered tickets to the game but as it turns out will be in Bali at the time getting married after 12 years & 3 kids, fukin typical, picked the moment eh, beleive they sold 85,000 in 2 hours, not bad for a pre-season freindly in aus mate, been lucky enough to see the boys a good few times though, good luck gettin tickets, u over these parts as well mate?
Great having our captain and leader back.
Ak. Hello pal. I hate that fat tramp West Ham supporting cunt Samuel.
Yeah someone mentioned Carrick needing a break. He has only not started ONE of our last 46 league games. That’s how integral he is.
Vidic was in mod yesterday! but my worry was last 5 minutes he was holding his knee! did anyone else notice?
sorry ” was man of the match”
King Eric
Hope you and the family had a good christmas. My kid is Dodi Hussein and believes in biological warfare so he brought something back from kindergarten with him that had me completely layed up, the little bastard.
Carrick is a footballers footballer, very underrated but is a fucking gem. For me he is easily the captain of the team and should be certainly one Evras shipped off to the glue factory (maybe a year or two left in him yet) and vidic much the same. Carrick I see playing into his late 30′s no problem.
King Eric
Fucking brilliant having vidic back, hard as nails mate, clean sheet aswell, how much we’ve missed him lately, thank fuck we’ve got plenty of goals in us, we can only get stronger now if he stays fit
Demba ba going to Chelsea tonight to discuss a possible transfer. Have to had it to them, ba has a 7 million release clause in his contract, so Chelsea could wind up selling sturridge to the desperate scouse for 12 million and getting Ba for much less. Joke on Liverpool and Newcastle.
Goat. Good thanks pal. You? Some cunt bought Tom Makka Pakka! Sick of sight of night garden.
Manc in aus. Hello mate. Yes great seeing him back. Hopefully now see right balance of attack and defence. No coincidence we keep a clean sheet.
You as well.
Got the boy an i-pad and added a cunt load of apps. Thought myself clever when I found an “In the night garden” where macca pacca can wash everyones faces. Great a £500 macca pacca gift. He wont play anything else.
United have a lot of stylish defenders but vida is the one that specialises in the art of box defending. He’ll head, kick, tackle everything in his sight. A no nonesense colossus of a centre back at his best. I think fergie reintegrating him gradually is wise, hopefully he’ll regain full fitness and confidence. His return could be significant in terms of organising his fellow defenders.
Goat. Ha quality.
ak47 – I do think fergie overreacted when he said, williams could have killed him. But certaintly its a red card, as he intended to his him with the ball. Like I said to my mates, swansea were vey lucky, if rooney and the officials did not eat so many pies over Christmas, we would have beaten Swansea 3 or 5 0.
Great game from Vida yesterday, especially in those dying minutes when we were still only 1-0 up and West Brom started having a go. You could see him closing people down around the box, hoofing away dangerous balls inside it, and just all around being very aware of where danger might come from.
I do agree that Evans-Vidic is probably our best current central defense partnership, although Smalling does a job in there too. Any thoughts on Jones? To me he looks dangerous going forward, but at the start of last season he would often leave a lot of space behind him when he would bomb forward. The way he’s been played recently suggests he might be used more as a full back, though. Could another midfield cameo also be in the cards for him?
Morning Reds Rent Boys got fucking lucky today really does make me puke watching those cunts.On a brighter note ‘Arry’s man management skills working wonders at QPR i guess telling the team they were a bunch of over paid bums didn’t do the trick lol
Arry is the most overrated twat ever to this day i’ll never understand how he got his reputation detest the fucking crook
Phil Jones is an odd one, he’s looked weak for us at center back but I watched him closely at Blackburn and he was top notch for them in that position. He’s shown he can get forward but something about him at right back just doesn’t seem right.
Jones is not a fullback or mifldfielder, he simply does a job there. His main role is centre back and that means being more disciplined and cutting out those barnstorming runs. He has a lot to learn, he’s no where near playing in the middle of defence regularly but if he continues to learn from the best. His positioning needs to improve, composure and awareness and with time, i hope he kicks on. he has other attributes for a centre back.
@samuel – united WE stand
I agree with you. Obvious current differences aside, I think he can become a great Libero like Matthaus, Danny Blind, or, to a lesser extent, Rafa Marquez at Barcelona, going forward to carry the ball, which would probably free up Carrick to advance a little more when we’re in posession in the knowledge that he doesn’t have to orchestrate from the back as much. Of course, great Liberos always knew when to pass it from defence and how to spot when to go forward. To me Jones has the quality to do both, but it’s his decision making that needs some polishing. The good thing is the former can’t be taught, but the latter can.
hey lads…i need some help from a few of the regulars
am a man utd member n go to the home games when i can,and im definetly applying for a ticket for the madrid game come january when application opens
my prob is,2 of my mates want to go with me and rnt members,could i apply for more than one ticket?is that allowed?and if not,will they have to become members and then apply?but how woukd we then sit together?
id appreciate any feedback from my fellow reds,and i really am grateful..
thanks
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Good luck with that online tickets touts are already selling tickets starting at 279 quid going up to 464 quid
http://www.onlineticketexpress.com/sports/football/manchester-united-vs-real-madrid-tickets-05-03-2013?a_aid=google1&gclid=CPXzzLGIw7QCFUlxQgodVmEA3w
GC – spot on. I think a prime example of these players you’ve mentioned is Lucio of brazil. He’s adept at both instigating attacks from the back, powering past players and distributing the ball well whilst also never neglecting his defensive duty. Jones has to find a way to balance both and i think that comes with experience. Jones has a lot to learn and needs to iron out some deficiences to really become a regular in the centre of defence. I’ve always said it, he needs to have the right fixed position in order not to be classified as a jack of all trade.
Alongside tickets are selling for 400 quid each so you and your mates can sit together for 1200 quid
Absolutely fucking ADORE our big bad captain. Hopefully he stays injury free from here on. I feel extremely safe when he’s at the back. He is mr. stability and is the glue that holds the team together. WELCOME BACK CAPTAIN. We have missed you.
btw
some interesting facts and unfortunately the reason why berba was let go even though the magician did score and was magnificent on that 21goals season. props for that.
But it was too little too late.
RVP on his first season with us and it’s not even the end has 14 PL goals and 6 assists
Berbatov had in his first season 9 goals and 9assists
I think talent wise they are at the same level, just that RVP is the definition of world-class and Berbatov is class, but not to tthe point that he could carry a team like United or lets say Barcelona by himself.
WeAreUnited – Difference between the 2 is not even close, bebatov good player, RVP is just a great player. he is 2 yards quicker than berbatov, more experience in the big games, he has the ability to play both the number 9 and 10 roles, and his experience playing along side big players during his asenal days, and working with a previous manager like wenger, put him in great stead when coming to united.
Vida is our superman in defence. In his last 2 games he seemed unstable and a little lost but had a great game against West Brom. Throwing his body in line to block shots and crosses. Immense performance. Can’t wait for him to score a goal next. Our defenders who have scored are Evra, Evans, Butner and Rafael. Time for the others to chip in a goal each at least. Ferdy to score on New Year’s Day. (Maybe on 100 to 1 odds)
Demba Ba is a Heskey reincarnation. Except he scores more goals.
Just why Liverfools don’t buy him for 7.5mil but instead buy Sturridge for 12mil is a mystery. Someone must be greasing their pockets as in the Andy carroll signing.Winning at QPR seems like a big deal to them but they will drop points in their next games.
Why are we even bothered to compare Berbatov to Rvp?
Berbatov played a big part for No,19, Rvp will play a big part for No.20, and both are great players, period.
The Beast
Vidic is a monster in recovery. Two days ago, he was colossus. It is not a coincidence that we kept a clean sheet against West Brom. I just love watching he put a simple ball out of play without much thinking.
Happy birthday to our young lad, SAF
Heard Lewandowski is coming next season for 18M?? How far is this true, and who will he replace? I would have rather like to see Hummels or Howedes join at the back as we already have many forwards, and why not add Walcott as well, making RvP feel more at home
Vidic was back to his beastly best, great to have our Captain back hope he can stay fit. We should also be very proud of Johnny Evans we really have groomed a gem there. And Cleverely, what a performance in the first 60 minutes. Ran his socks off.
because @marq
I can do it, why not, he isn’t our brother or father or whatsoever.
I just found an interesting comparison and though sharing it.
Why not? Berbatov was a class act, but RVP is a world-class act. nothing against him, and even if I had, it woul be my issue, not yours.
And then Fergie the boss answered politely and commented. Nothing wrong doing that.
The truth is what it is. In that 19 tittle season it was Berba-Nani-Chicha show.
And at the end, would RVP be dropped for a Champions League final? the answer is no.
Didn’t want to drag this, it was just an observation my friend. don’t take it so hard.
For example I support Nani till the end.
But if we get next summer a player who manages in his first season to breakthrough immediatelly and be also at the same age as Nani was.
I would compare him to Nani and realise that we have a prospect.
For example Ronaldo and Nani compared in their first 100 games, I think Nani had better stats, the difference was, that Ronaldo established himself int othe bets player in the world and Nani one of the best wingers in the world. Both are class acts, but
Ronaldo is a world-class.
Berbatov was at the same age as RVP when he came, so the comparison is also in it’s place.
PS. Henriquez goes on loan to Wigan, GREAT NEWS. we will now see that talented guy play!
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/man_utd/87918/snapshot-nani-vs-cristiano-ronaldo-first-100-man-utd-games.html
here you have it, first 100games.
But we know the rest of the story for Ronaldo.
Half term report on the team. amazing things to read, how good of a team we are.
http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Features/2012/Dec/201213-manchester-united-half-term-report.aspx
For the first time in 99 years, United secured top-flight wins at Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester City, while victory over Arsenal completed a remarkable 12-point haul from our grandest quartet of Premier League fixtures, and that’s not to mention a comprehensive 3-0 win at Newcastle.
I just find it amusing that people like to compare, stats don’t tell the whole story, Berbatov wasn’t a good fit, Rvp is. A simpler explaination for Rvp’s success is that he is left footer, and hence he tends to occupy different positions than other strikers we had, like where he scored against West Brom. Do you think Rooney, Hernandez or Welbeck could have done anything like he did at that position?
@marq
we were talking about berbatov vs rvp
stats tells it everything
If Berbatov would have started his career like RVP did, do you really think Berbatov would now play for Fulham`?
14 goals before the season has ended against 9 goals for a full season, tells it all.
The thing is, both players touch is beautiful, both are talented and has that football vision. The difference is RVp scores when it matters, more that Berba.
Nothing against Berba, trust me, RVP has everything what Berbatov lacked. It isn’t much, but it’s that last touch that didn’t make berbatov the player to watch, unlike RVP. If you know what I mean.
Well yes, the ycould do that what RVP did, Rooney has done it many times, but from the left.
As for Chicha and Welbs, havent’ yet seen a goal liek that.
And that separates them from RVP’s and Rooney’s. Nothing against anyone.
I don’t have time to hate players haha, just pointed out. And that’s a fact. RVP being Left footer has nothing to do with Berbatov.? I don’t get that, and don’t start bringing Messi also up if you will use him as a example, cause he’s from another planet.
Left footer or right footer, the difference is, RVP can lead the likes of Arsenal and United and Berbatov the likes of Tottenham and Fulham. In United, he was one of the players who kept United alive and win that 19th tittle, which is a accomplishment of course.
But 14 goals and so n against 9 goals, tells you all. cause their all.around game is exactly the same, no matter which footed they are, So that’s crazy comparison.
And also, the thing is
Berbatov played with the likes of Tevez, Ronaldo and Rooney. And still managed only 9 goals.
The competitions was crazy, but do you really think that RVP wouldn’t have scored with the likes of Ronaldo more than 9 goals and established himself better?
Think again. RVP keeps our team tick at the moment. He is the final puzzle and berba wasn’t .
End of story.
I wasnt even comparing. All I am saying is Rvp being left footed had a better chance of fitting in. Exactly like you pointed out, Rooney only did from the left. Nobody else in the team can do it from the right, apart from Nani. I know you are not bashing Berba, but there is nothing to compare
@marq
now I only got what you meant, even though I am not agreeing that being a reason for Berba not to fit for that reason. Anyway. Let’s agree to disagree .
Whatever right? Now we have the golden man RVP who scores and assist for fun.
I just pointed out the stats and the reason why I thought Berba was never going to make it here, because he started badly and was never a player to carry the team of our caliber. I never though the conversation would go so deep hahah. Anyway.
We have nothing to complain and we should be happy for the year we experienced.
Happy new year mate!!! and let’s hope our next year is even betetr and our best year for United!!!
peace mate.
One final thing.
There was alot to compare because RVP came here in the age of 29
Berba the other hand 28 I think.
Their price was the same. And the expectations also.
Talent wise they are in the same caliber.
The difference is and was,
RVP is delivering in his first season and carrying the team, and for Berba it took 9goals in his first season when everyone expected 20 and also 4 seasons to make it, and he even played with better players. And still he never kinda made it here, in some manner if you think about it.
peace and a happy new year for all.!!!
WeAreUnited – still for me RVP would have blown ronaldo and tevez out of the water that year, no matter the competition, RVP for me would have easily scored the goals he is scoring now. The fact remains, even when the competition was low, like 2010, berbatov still failed, and even though he scored 20 plus goals in 2011, it still was not that great of a year for berbatov, only a few gat games, and his form went down the pan again. RVP does it when united need it the most, RVP never goes through hot and cold, he is like van nistlerooy at his best, always on the ball. If RVP was signed, and the way RVP is playing, tevez would have been benched even more, that is how good RVP is. RVP is not just a talented player, he is a great player, and when talented players become great players, you have the complete package. Berbatobv and nani are good players, but they are not great players, and that’s what separates the strong from weak
Football for me is like a wolf pack, competing with the big dogs, if you are not strong enough to dance with the wolves, you get spat out. That is berbatov in a nutshell, he just could not handle the big dogs in the playground, and was easily bullied at united. Anything went against him, he would shrug his shoulders. I remember a game with fulham when they were losing to liverpool, liverpool were passing the ball back and 4th, all berbatov did? was watch the game, no pressing defenses, And that is another problem, there was no ball pressure from berbatov. That is what I love from united’s current strikers, their ability to pressure defenses when they have the ball in their own half, and that transfers to the other players, and united become a far better team.
Fergie the bosss — this is what i meant when I compared them and I think you pointed the issue very well.
I agree 90% with this because at that time Ronaldo was the boss, but then if RVP were at that time with us and not injured, he would have been the boss.
your quote AND I COULD HAVE QUOTED YOUR BOTH COMMENTS, the underlines the fact that I was trying to say and the fact that implies with Berbatov.
no matter the competition, RVP for me would have easily scored the goals he is scoring now.”
peace and a happy new year FITB!
3 comments:
1. it is said that the only human capable of slamming a revolving door is captain vidic.
2. RVP would never have been the main man in the side while CR7 was a part of it. Ronny and Messi are on a different level of genius, and any teams they are in will always be built around them. RVP would have been a valuable contributer to the team, but CR7 would always be the boss of that team. RVP is world class, but CR7 and Messi are all time greats with pele, maradona, cruyff etc. with messi possibly being the greatest of all by virtue of being better than CR7.
3. Berbatov comments I find are a bit silly. RVP has been the better team player for us in his career so far, due to his greater work ethic and the way he fits into the team. However, my favourite player of all time is DB9, its got nothing to do with passion and work ethic and blah blah blah. DB9 is art. No fuss, no sweat, just a glorious first touch, jaw-dropping bits of skill, putting away bicycle and scissor kicks while missing tap-ins. His game is art. I watch fulham games when I can just to see him outrageously controlling the ball, nonchalently doing skills and watching lesser mortals run around. Most berbatov fans dont define his career at utd with goals and assists, but the times their jaws hit the floor when he controlled wayward shots as if they were amazing passes etc. Man utd have not lost a great player in berbatov, just an entertainer.
also, personally felt DB9 was actually a midfielder/ number 10, stuck in a strikers body. Hisl link up play and his passing range seemed to suggest that he should have not been a striker. His goals were usually spectacular kinds which were typical of number 10s. Therefore comparing him to RVP is unfair, cos I think that of the two, DB9 has the better passing range, better awareness of tempo and better vision, which is usually not very useful for a striker to have as it gets in the way of a strikers instinct.
Good on ya david for making a lot of sense. The others slating Berba can learn a thing or two and not compare players when they are not totally like each other. There are some things where RVP outshine Berba, and others where Berba outshine RVP. To be honest I have never seen anyone else apart from Zidane who can control a football the way that Berbatov does. Not RVP, not Tevez, not even CRonaldo.
if you look closesly
nobody was even bashing Berba, he’s a CLASS act. one of the few that brings the beauty of the football on the field.
The thing just was that they are comparable, cause both have that same football genius touch and came to UNITED at the same situation. Botth wanted out, both are talented, both strikers, both have the price tag, both were at the same age when came here and both had similar expectations.
The difference.
Berba scored 9 goals and 9 assist in his first season
RVP 14 and 6 and the season hasn’t even started. HE aalso has scored many gamewinning goals and is an influencial player to us from the beginning, different to Berba, who only was later on.
And when he was, he was magical, nobody will and can’t deny that, because he’s a geniius.
Just that RVP is doing it fro mthe beginning and is our starplayer. Berba never was.
end of story.
i hope he does because I have a nasty feeling that this could be his last ‘proper’ season for us