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VIEW FROM THE ENEMY: Manchester City fan on Van Persie, sacking Mancini and CL failure

The last time we played City at Old Trafford we lost 6-1. In a bid to make amends for last season’s embarrassment, United have bossed the league this season, going 15 points clear and putting City back in our shadow. All that talk of the blue moon rising and the power shift in Manchester has come to an end, with United reasserting their dominance. Forget goal difference, United have blown all other teams out of the water this season and today we have the opportunity to heap further embarrassment on our local rivals.

Rob Pollard, who runs Typical City, has taken time to discuss where it all went wrong for them this season.

Scott the Red: How would you rate City’s season so far?

Rob Pollard: Mancini said in his press conference prior to the Newcastle game that if we finished second and won the FA Cup he would consider this a good season. I was slaughtered by a few City fans on Twitter for disagreeing. We added £50m of new players to a title winning squad, yet failed to win a single Champions League match and the title race was over in early March. The City fans having a go at me pointed to the injuries we’ve had, but they’ve been no worse than United’s last season yet you managed to push us right to the death. We’ve played well in flashes, but overall we’ve taken a few steps back from last season, so, for me, it’s been a massive failure.

STR: Does Mancini deserve to keep his job after another early Champions League exit and failure to seriously compete with United for the title so far this season?

RP: In my opinion, yes, but whether he will or not is another matter. When I spoke to you last time I mentioned how much I love Mancini – he’s the best manager we’ve had in my lifetime. All the others I’ve seen – and, Joe Royle aside, there’s been a procession of idiots – have just been doing a job and collecting a salary, whereas Mancini lives and breathes the role. It means as much to him as it does to me, and that is something I’ve really enjoyed. United fans probably don’t appreciate that because you have been spoilt by Sir Alex Ferguson, but, believe me, if you’d endured what I have in terms of managers you would love Mancini, too. He also brought me my first silverware and for that I’ll be forever grateful.

I also try and point out to people what a mess he inherited. I know Mark Hughes had spent big but we really were a shambles, and from week one of Mancini’s appointment it had been constant improvement for the first two-and-a-half years of his reign. In terms of this season, Mancini has a get-out-of-jail-free card in the sense that Brian Marwood is largely seen as the man responsible for our dreadful recruitment drive last summer, so he will argue that he deserves another chance to put things right and make us competitive in the big competitions again. An FA Cup win would certainly help his cause.

STR: Who do you think has been the biggest culprit in City’s decline this season?

RP: It’s hard to point fingers in one direction but clearly the summer signings (Nastasic aside) were woeful, and we haven’t scored enough goals. Defensively, we’ve been OK but we just haven’t clicked going forward in the way we did when we won the league. I think it’s been a collective failure rather than something we can pin on one person.

STR: Are you surprised by City’s form this season?

RP: Very. I was annoyed in the summer with the signings we’d made but, even so, I expected a far better campaign than this. The first half of last season saw us play some of the best football in Premier League history, we really were brilliant. We tailed off during the second half of the season but, on the whole, we played some excellent stuff last year and deservedly won the title. It’s been a case of two steps back this time, for sure.

STR: Are you worried about next season?

RP: Not at all. I’m excited. I want to get this campaign out the way with and start afresh. If we make the right signings, we should have a much better season next time.

STR: Which players do you most want to see leave and who would you most like to replace them?

RP: The stars seem to be aligning for big changes this summer, with huge contracts coming to an end, some big players probably leaving, and two new board member who want to stamp their authority on things. We could potentially be freeing up huge space on our wage bill this summer. Kolarov, Kolo Toure, Lescott, Maicon, Sinclair, Nasri, Tevez and Dzeko could all leave (with Santa Cruz and Bridge finally leaving on free transfers), and if that happens we’d have serious room to manoeuvre in the summer window. The hangover from the Hughes-era finally seems to be coming to an end.

If we’re playing absolute fantasy football, any of Cavani, Falcao, Sandro, Pogba, Reus, Gotze or Baines would do me. In fact, there are loads of players out there I’d be interested in, with Cavani topping the list.

STR: Which United player would you most like in your squad?

RP: Last time we spoke I said Scholes, but that was my heart talking. This time I’ll use my head and say Van Persie. I was flabbergasted at thick City and United fans in the summer saying they didn’t want him. His injury record and big wages seemed to be the main justifications for their reluctance to sign him but it was absolutely absurd, and I hope everyone who doubted him now realises that. He can play as a number 9 or a number 10, score with his left foot and right foot from inside and outside the box, and also take set pieces. I mean, what is there not to like? He’s one of the finest forwards the Premier League has ever seen. Obviously, it’s a great regret he didn’t want to join us because if he had this season would have been very different.

STR: How much would you like to see City take a leaf out of United’s book and develop their own players and bring through local lads who actually care about the club?

RP: I think we are. The plans for our new academy are absolutely incredible. We’re spending £100m on creating state-of-the-art facilities and the hope is that it leads to us producing great players of our own, thus making us self-sufficient. That’s the long-term goal, and the level of investment suggests the club is very serious about it.

STR: What are your predictions for the game?

RP: 1-6 :)

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Scott is the editor of Red Matters - 50 Years of Supporting Manchester United and an author of Play Like Fergie's Boys and Not Nineteen Forever. He writes for ESPN, The Metro and Bleacher Report. Follow @R_o_M on Twitter.

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29 Comments

  1. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Be curious on Rob’s thoughts on Balotelli leaving? Surely would have been the target man that some are saying city lack.
    Sometimes Wonder if Fergie could have done something. But Fergie couldn’t handle Morrison or Pobga, so I’m not going to cast the first stone.

    6? That’s a laugh. But first goal could be crucial!

  2. Red1990 says:

    Come on United, send these cunts home with tails between their legs.

  3. Andromeda says:

    Meeting city at this stage while we are 15 points clear is something in itself quite positive even before the kick off, however I expect a fully focused team and I truly predict a good result regardless of whether we will be champions or not, its all about making amend for our last season’s agony, specially after seeing them victorious both home and away.

  4. wayne says:

    He must be having a laugh blaming Hughes,Bobby Manc has spent 291 mill since taking over in December 2009,Utd in the same time period 128 mill.
    He’s a useless cunt his man management skills are awful,never takes any responsibility although most of the time it’s him getting his tactics wrong,90% of his signings have been atrocious.I hope the slimy little cunt does stay best thing that could happen to Utd but for a City fan to say he’s a great manager and it’s mainly Hughes signings that’s held City back is comedy gold.

  5. WeAreUnited says:

    @andromeda

    amen my friend :)

    I AM BUZZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING!!!!

    a late winner again, cmon UNITEEEEEEEEEEED

  6. wayne says:

    This 6-1 keeps coming up all the time but i don’t know why,1st half Utd were the better side and even with 10 men it was close with 20 mins to go,those cocksuckers scored 3 goals in injury time ffs. Everyone talks like it was a thrashing but the score was very misleading.

  7. WeAreUnited says:

    @wayne

    tell me about it, instead of keeping it 3-1 we went all the way United way, and got that 6-1 thrashing, which basically cost us the title.

    a shame really, cause like you mentioned, it was 3 injury-time goals. will not happen this time around.

  8. Rd5454 says:

    Pls keep mankini just like fat waiter

  9. denton davey says:

    Wayne @ 14:00: “Everyone talks like it was a thrashing but the score was very misleading.”

    The score-line was very misleading but the performance by TheLads was very embarrassing – especially the way in which the last three goals were “surrendered” by a UTD team that had lost all sense of fight/resistance at the end of the match.

    The key moment in the match was the result of an excellent reverse-pass from SuperMario which left Jonny Evans exposed as “the last man”. I recall that there was a lot of chatter on RoM about the wisdom of Evans’ response – I thought he was correct to foul Aguero (?) because at that point there was still a chance to fend off Shitty. Indeed, what I recall vividly about that abysmal day is that someone – AshleyBloodyYoung, if I recall correctly ! – had two shots at an unprotected keeper in the 55th/60th minute which would have levelled the score at 1-1.

    Fast forward twenty minutes – with a man-advantage – and leading by a goal – they scored two more before DarrenFletcherinho (?) got UTD on the board but it was not enough and as the game wound down so, too, did the players’ resolve.

    I would imagine that when TheLads gathered in the dressing room for the post-match “chat” from SAF that the paint was peeling from a high-intensity hair-dryer. Fergy hates losing BUT losing with no pride – and that was what the last three goals indicated – would have been unbearable for him.

    After that match, UTD tightened the defence and were able to turn the ship-of-state around even while enduring a horrendous injury crisis and a confidence-sapping exit from the CL and later the Europa League.

    However, the press never fail to re-write the story to fit their own narratives – and, boy-oh-boy do they ever want to see the back of Sir Alexander Chapman Ferguson. So, the upshot is that that result has been used to write a story of UTD-in-decline, all-the-while praising the “champions” (whose championship was achieved by another UTD meltdown in April/May after ManShitty had themselves thrown away an eight-point lead in February/March).

    All that might be more historically correct but the story-line NEEDS to big-up ManShitty’s historic victory @ OT last year. Having been on the other side of this story-line on a number of occasions – I’d love it, love it, love it ! – to see the tables turned later today so that UTD can move into an 18-point margin. And if I feel that way just imagine the fires burning in the OldFootieKnight !

  10. denton davey says:

    Not exactly on topic:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/apr/08/manchester-united-sell-naming-rights

    Glazernomics were able to get 20 million quid a year – for 8 years – for the rights to sponsor the training kit and training grounds. There seems to be no end to the pot of gold for “commercial revenues”. And it was stated that the “naming rights” for Old Trafford would NEVER be sold – not even for 100 million a year. So, I guess that “The Apple @ OT” is just a pipe-dream.

  11. Andromeda says:

    We are united, Cheers mate.I think it will be dramatic as always unless some tactical conservatism takes its toll.anyway, I hope seeing both Rafa and Rooney fit and ready.we badly miss the latter as his absence has eventually cost us the FA cup.Rooney for me is the spirit of the team and its sad that some of the folks were continuously bashing him in the previous thread.sometimes its hard for me to read those comments, and indee lose the power to write any words.

    Wayne, well said mate the latest football revolution at city is not down to Mankini as many thought to be the case, it was rather the dynasty of what the his Swedish predecessor and finally down to the crazy spending.Would love to see the prospect of Mou returning to Chelsea, Methinks City will vanish by sandwiching effects of two master minds of football.

  12. WeAreUnited says:

    @andromead

    I don’t have to add anythign else mate, we need Rafael and the most Rooney, who popped up with 2 goals against city last time we played? A: Rooney.

    it will be a tough game, the only way to handle this is playing our game and not trying to stop Milner (joke), but a decent 4-4-2 with Rooney dropping down in a 451 formation.

    UNITEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!

  13. ManchesterisOURS says:

    can’t wait for the match, just hope we turn up and fergie puts a good starting 11 tonight, i would take a draw before the game but obviously would love a win. Im watching it on sky sports so hope that twat niall quinn doesn’t turn up to be the co-commentator, i was cringing the whole way last season when they beat us 1-0. Gnev is a class act everytime he comes on, showing the ABU’s how to be a nuteral!

  14. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Derby Day stats:

    Rooney leads all players with 10goals v City

    Andrei Kanchelskis (1994) is the only player to have scored a hat trick in a derby in the EPL era.
    Wayne Rooney (2012) is the last United player to have scored a brace in a derby.
    1 in 3 derbies (35%) have at least 4goals.

  15. FletchTHEMAN says:

    via Rob Harris:

    Premier League not telling clubs to hold minute’s silence for Thatcher… and there won’t be one before the Manchester derby tonight.

    Thoughts: About right. Appropriate respect for her accomplishments as a person, but none for her politics.
    Closed down hundreds of factories in the Northwest, no lover of football or the working fan. Was PM for Hillsborough and though no direct role, surely could have done more to correct the grievous harm done that day by police.

  16. wayne says:

    Out of the 291 mill spent i’d say 4 have been great signings Silva,Toure(although he’s a lazy cunt and total rent boy),Kolarov and Aguero
    last summer he spent close to 60mill on Maicon,Sinclair,Nastasic,Garcia and Rodwell all of them busts except Nastasic
    He’s signed between 20 to 30 players,why is this little cocksucker rated so highly

  17. wayne says:

    denton didn’t find it embarrassing at all to say the lads surrendered and lost all sense of fight is bollocks.The lads battled hard and kept going forward looking for goals so maybe naive not to shut up shop and keep the score down but to suggest they quit you’re dead wrong

  18. wayne says:

    The reason i had to leave England and work in Germany and then ended up in Canada was because because of Thatcher,she ruined the working class she can fuck off,her and Reagan were a right couple of cunts

  19. Stenis says:

    I’m actually a bit concerned about their long-term project and the investment their putting into their academy. United’s always been about developing local players and talents from Britain and abroad to the long-term benefit of the squad. With city developing a strong academy, going to United for a young British talent might not be as obvious a choice as it is today.

  20. Proverb says:

    We love United, we do. We love United, we do. We love United, we do. Oh United we love you.

    Come on you ReddDDssS
    We love you
    Let’s wrap things up asap

  21. wayne says:

    City are like the Rent Boys have no interest in being patient and developing youth all Bobby Manc thinks about is the quick fix and signing Rent Boys.Not worried in the slightest no comparison between Utd and City.It takes years and a willingness to give young lads a chance prime example is Berba not getting games ahead of Danny when he was the more accomplished player.At teams that’s driven by Oil money the manager isn’t given time to build a team from within no success there’s the door.I’ll be surprised if Bobby Manc is given another year,it’s kinda live by the sword,die by the sword.If a owner is giving a manager unlimited funds and the only point of owning a football club is ego driven,youth doesn’t come into the equation

  22. ys says:

    Assuming Rooney n Rafael are injured

    De Gea
    Valencia Rio Vidic Evra
    Nani Jones Carrick Giggs
    Kagawa
    RVP

  23. roboo7 says:

    shitys 5 mins historys less than 12 months tevez will be eating his sign and a taxi will be waiting for mancini

    cheers and gone!!

  24. WeAreUnited says:

    @wayne

    finally we agree in many points and it’s a rarety between us haha

    If I could pick players from city’s side, it would be only silva, aguero and toure. and like you said, maybe they’re building an academy, but they will only use it when oil money is gone, and by that time, no one will want to play for city. until then, money will be spent on “superstar” players rather on youngsters. of course you never know, but look at sinclair and rodwell, i know they had their injuries, but did they get theri chances=

    we already have, evans, rafael, clevs and welbeck fro mthe academy, then jones came as a youngster, smalling came as a youngster, I don’t know but can’t wait for this game!

  25. Daniel88 says:

    De Gea

    Jones/Rafael — Ferdinand – Vidic – Evra

    Valencia Carrick Cleverley Nani

    Rooney/Hernandez — van Persie

  26. DohaRed says:

    Really looking forward to the game. City have come back into a bit of form lately, so it will be a tough match. Take us to win 3-2

  27. parryheid says:

    Absolutely No fucking about get into them.

  28. belfast red. says:

    Its a joke when you hear a city fan say and even mankini say bout how the reason they are so far behind is that they didnt get the players they wanted. he spent 50mil in the summer! 50fuckin mill! And they are somehow a weaker team! Bobby is a Shit manager simple as!

  29. Redninja says:

    Shit is always a shit no how decorated it’s

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