With a few blogs dropping out of The Sun‘s World Cup competition, RoM has been given Korea Republic and Honduras to support. Park is already through to the next round and will face Uruguay, whilst Honduras are currently bottom of their group. If Chile beat Spain then a big win against Switzerland could see them go through…
At RoM, whilst very disappointed to learn that Nani wouldn’t get his chance to shine, we had enough years following Portugal’s results because of Ronaldo to develop a bit of a soft spot for the Portuguese.
James T from Unproffesional Foul had a chat with us before the start of the World Cup about his hopes for Portugal.
Scott the Red: So, Portugal eh? Happy?
James T: No. We thought the team was a potential wreck, and that’s before Nani was ruled out. It’s never about a lack of pure skill with this group, and with Almeida in good form, they have the target man they’ve so often lacked. But even if Ronaldo matures (and scores) and Pepe manages a few good games, it’s just hard to see a clear path past Brazil and Ivory Coast. The latter is obviously the more vulnerable, but a second place finish would only earn the Portuguese a date, we’d assume, with Group H winners Spain.
STR: But surely any team with Cristiano Ronaldo in stands a chance of winning the World Cup?
JT: Don’t be cheeky with us. Surely he’s capable of lifting an already capable side, much like he did for those years at Old Trafford. But when forced to carry the load on his own… well, Ronaldo remains an unknown. Perhaps he’ll “write a new history,” but until then, we think it’s more about his teammates putting Ronaldo in a place to shine, and not the other way around.
STR: There’s no denying his skill, but you’re right, plenty of our lads have said sacrifices were made in the team to help him, and the fact we scored 18 more goals in the league after he left is testament to their shackles being taken off. Nani has definitely been one of the success stories of Ronaldo’s departure. How much of a blow do you think his injury is?
JT: It’s all in the context of a team. It’s obviously a problem when you lose one of your star players. And in this group, being short one Nani could mean coming up one point short of a place in the knockout round. That said, Portugal is deep in the midfield and will have more than capable reinforcement (should they ever settle on a formation.)
STR: The furthest Portugal have ever reached in the World Cup was the semi-finals. Do you think they have improved since then?
JT: Since 1966? I guess. Eusebio pretty much carried that team on his Mozambique-born shoulders. Now the Portuguese, instead of stealing African talent, must settle for Brazil’s cast-offs. As an American, we watch our own guys ship off to Italy and Serbia, then snag what we can from Mexico. So I think they’re doing well. But really, any country that produces Figo and his generation, then follows with Cristiano Ronaldo (a native Madeiran) has to be doing something right.
STR: Well, I was more referring to the semi-finals of the last World Cup when they got knocked out by France, but Eusebio? I say Kiddo. Anyway, you have been drawn in the group of death, alongside the likes of Brazil and Ivory Coast. How many points do you think you’ll get?
JT: We? Oh, right. I think we better go into that third game (vs. Brazil) not needing much. Portugal travelled to Brazil for a friendly late last year I believe and took a memorable shellacking. I think the Ivorians will be tough, and that first fixture will decide the rest for us. Mark it, if Portugal can beat Ivory Coast on June 15th in Port Elizabeth they will go through on either six or seven points. I don’t think a draw does it.
STR: What are your predictions for your game against Brazil?
JT: If Brazil has absolutely anything to play for, I believe she shall have a bite of Portugal’s lunch.
STR: Who do you want to win the World Cup?
JT: We’re a diverse lot over at UF. Two Inglish by my count, a handful of Yanks, and then the animal we keep in the attic, a French-Haitian-American whose foremost concern will be Les Bleus. Speaking strictly for myself, I’m all for the USMNT. On the off chance they don’t win the damn thing, I’ll have my claws in England and Holland.
STR: Well your animal in the attic must be really chuffed with France’s performance! I know it’s been entertaining for everyone else (sorry Paddy). So, who do you think will be the tournament’s best player?
JT: I think everything is shaping up so that Kaka will remind us why Madrid paid all that borrowed money for him.
STR: Well he hasn’t set the tournament alight just yet, but he has had a few assists and will start the next round well rested after that unjust red card. Finally, who do you think will win the World Cup?
JT: Brasilia.
STR: Thanks for your time mate. Força Brasil!
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“Now the Portuguese, instead of stealing African talent, must settle for Brazil’s cast-offs” Ha Ha Ha
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Fabiano for the win
Nowhere as funny as the previous interview, but good one all the same.
just seen there the england germany game is an arsenal vs spurs blog game
can the stakes be any higher ha ha ha
EUSEBIO – the best to ever do it in a Portugual Shirt.
So many players are over looked and Eusebio is definetely one of them up there with Maradonna, Pele and Best. Fantasic player…. anyway.
Come on Brazil !!!!
Eusebio and ill say Kiddo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG6W2F_iERM
imagine coming from a country like brazil, not the richest country in the world, saving up so much money to fly to south africa to see this Crap.
5 Minutes Extra time. the time keeper must have a 1nil bet on this game
4 shots in the whole fuckin game from both sides
This Portugal team is boring me to death. At the same time, Brazil weren’t too convincing against a tougher opponent than Korea or Ivory Coast. Chile and Spain will be tough nuts for Brazil and Portugal. Unless of course the Swiss manage to advance to the last 16…
That was like watching Chelsea vs Chelsea.
@Moscow is my heaven
Seconded. This has to be the most boring Brazilian side ever.
Brazil past the ball true the midfield as the Portugal midfield holds strong
that a quote from the radio about 20 minutes into the game ( the news is a 4 minute update at 20 past 3 ) that’s all the happened at yet 5 minutes extra time
Terrible game. It’s a shame that both teams were obviously settling for a draw; an attacking display would have been nice. Brazil still will turn it on when it matters, as for Portugal they could do with Nani, someone who can provide decent service.
Hello guys, I don’t care about football today. I am writing this just to let you know that I am now a graduate!! yeahhhhhhhhh to me. Love you all!
@portugueseprincess : congratulation
Nice one Torres. Once a twat alwats a twat. Stevie G taught him well.
@portugueseprincess
Congrats! The best is officially behind you. Welcome to real life, lol!
@ portugueseprincess, congrats.
I fucking hate Torres, the cheating bastard. The ref is even a bigger bastard. Ridiculous red card for the Chile player. Some refs have been fantastic this year, others pathetic.
@Fze123
Did he even bother to ask his assistant? I give credit to Torres for his brilliant acting, but the linesman surely saw it.
On another note, brilliant by Iniesta. It’s a shame that everything’s falling apart for Chile. I can’t see Honduras holding on until the 90th minute.
How strange to see Livershit twats cheating even when they represent their countries! Anyone see Agger back into a Japanese player last night then throw himself on the turf to cheat a penalty?
And now, the usual Torres self-inflicted trip to get a Chilean player sent off. Isn’t Ladyboy the biggest fucking disgrace in the world cup? What a fucking slimeball!
Isn’t it difficult to support England when we have scum Gerrard and fucking useless Johnson in the team? How can Jailbird scum like Stevie me be England captain for fuck’s sake?
Also, am I the only one who thinks Southgate is the worst pundit ever seen?
Christ I hate those spanish cheaters. Busquets has been shot twice already (he is probably still rolling around on the ground) and that ladyboy is a disgrace. The referee is a pus*y.
Can someone remind me why people are having these massive wankfests over spain again?
Seriously, my blood boils when that thing busquets appears on the screen and why on earth are commentators trying to explain how that ladyboys dive was a foul on him?
Spain = Diving team.
@Passe_Mouraille
It’s funny, but I’ve seen Busquets be on the receiving end of some really bad tackles. Something tells me that the opponents are onto his theatricks and are lashing out on him. When Scholesy came on as a sub in Rome, one of the first things he did was rough up Busquets!
@ Costas, he supports spain. Simply as.
I hope the Swiss don’t win. I like Chile, a good team who play good football, if only they’re more disciplined. And they scored!
Go on Chile.
Costas:
What a Legend Scholesy is! I hope they give Busquets something to really roll around for.
GO CHILE!
Take that you Spanish fairies, Busquets you cheating cunt.
Torres and Villa don’t gel as a pair for me.
Torres and Rooney… two unfit players who started every game of the WC, only difference is that one resorts to cheating to have some impact on the game.
@TheRadLegion,Costas and Fze123, Thank you!
Fze123
Imagine the strike partnership… Rooney-Torres
Great read the lad from unprofessional foul, sounds like a dood that wont take any shite! He sounds like a cheeky bastard, I like!.” the Animal we keep in the attic” lol cracker sounds like the Gimp outta Pulp fiction, well we know what americans are like. lol.
Off topic since when do commentators pronounce a persons name that is spelt Ponce….. Ponsay!
Jaysus the world is going fucking mad with corrective behaviour. its pronounced Ponce, say it as it, yer no from fucking South America.
Cmon Switzerland we need to keep you in the tournament for agressive attacking football and just for the neutrals sake.
Lets go dizzee bonkers.
I don’t know about you guys, but the game seemed to me like a friendly towards the end. I won’t shed any tears about the Swiss though. So here is our next round:
Uruguay – South Korea
Mexico – Argentina
England – Germany
Ghana – USA
Holland – Slovakia
Japan – Paraguay
Brazil – Chile
Portugal – Spain
The Quarters will have just 3 Europeans! Here are my picks: Uruguay, Argentina, England, USA, Holland, Paraguay, Brazil and…Portugal!
If Chile didn’t have half of their players suspended, I’d fancy them against Brazil. Out classed the spaniards beginning of the game, and coped well with 10 men. Thank God Spain finished first, that’s a cheatfest avoided.
As I have always thought, what do Greeks know about football lmao joking
After Argentina you got it wrong my friend, well the next and the last. add in Germany and Ghana, and finally but not least Portugal against Spain, ohhhh please. only one winner there, check your stats! ? lol
I think Argentina or Brazil would beat Spain, they look vulnerable to me and very edgy at the back. @ Costas Going for Portugal to Spain, could be a good shout.
@RedScot
Lol, we will see. I am going out on a limb for some of those predictions, but I’ve gone for experience. Apart from the Portugal one. In that case it’s more like wishful thinking.
Plus, Portugal’s defensive structure could cancel out Spain’s rhythm and flow. And with Ronaldo on the pitch you never know.
For those not aware Greece this tournament goals for 2 against 5, lets get stuck into Slovakia.
And manager leaves the country immediately after their out, class, I say class
Rehhagel was scheduled to leave even if Greece won the world cup, lol. Besides a goal tally of 2-5 is better compared to our previous one of 0-10.
@ Costas I know you are trying to wind folk up mate. Thats my job, your the stats man, stick to what you know best. lmao, no fucking chance Portugal are going through.
off topic what did the Portugal Princess graduate on……. Blank Blank, keep it clean, although when i read it i just thought and laughed.
Bon Nuit Garcons
@RedScot
I am usually better at stats than predictions, but it wasn’t a wind up. I would like to see Ronaldo advance instead of Torres and Fabregas, but I also feel that Portugal can cause them problems. We will see. Goodnight.
In other news, Eriksson is already looking for his next pay day. Get him while you can Liverpool.
Portugal and Spain will be a dive fest.
Off topic the more i hear about Patrice I just want to cry. Who the fuck cares about those Bleus, you know your loved at Manchester united.
You are a United legend, its a fucking disgrace whats happening.
ohhh know a bugger for detail, lmao I thought Norh Korea was Red rants.
I got it wrong again. It helps when you read, mind wif that gobshite ranting, total lunatic, switches like a light bulb. Fucking Canadians, mad as hose pipes.
Parky oh woo woo
Parky oh woo woo
he’ll play against uruguary
and make Diego cry
Costa- Morning mate. My picks are almost the same as yours, only Mexico instead of Argentina.
Man what a pain in the ring. . . Tomorrow I want Rooney to light up the world, but then that means a win for Stevie Me and FUCK John Terry . its like when you realise your eating a pen that you got a lend of
who is the only player to play for both liverpool clubs and both manchester clubs
@GHTT
Peter Beardsley? I remember the bloke was on loan at Citeh some ten years ago and the commentator mentioned something of this sort.
Dela
good stuff, a pub question last night that I was the only one who knew. And then it turns out the only one who’d believe me
Talking of pubs, I’ll be watching tonight’s game in a pub full of American ‘soccer’ lovers. I really really hope those knobs get thrashed by Ghana.
Dela
you mean peoples like these http://www.studs-up.com/2010/06/boil-down-the-basics/
Beardsley? Really? There’s something I didn’t know. By the time I started following football, he was already at Newcastle and I only heard about his Liverpool past.
Speaking of the USA game, I am not too fond of them either, but seeing as Ghana got plenty of ref asisstance to get to the last 16, I’ll be rooting for the US.
Costa he played for united first big Ron brought him in gave him 45 minutes and taught he wasn’t good enough and let him go.
Liverpool have found a gem here. Didier Deschamps looks likely to be the new liverpool manager. really rate the man. has a great future in management
mhihrh
he wasnt good enugh for the irish game
@gotta hate tiny tears
sorry. didnt get you there
@Costas
I have nothing against the American team. In fact, I even remember mentioning Michael Bradley as one of the players I’d like Fergie to sign. That said, taking a piss at the Yanks is just too much fun.
Go Ghana!
The US team impress me, because they are different from US teams in other sports, who have a gung-ho ‘We Kick Ass’ way of doing their sport. The US team rely less on talent, but much more on discipline, high intensity and physicality, and fast paced intelligent football, which I admire, and the uncharacteristic lack of arrogance they have, contrasts with England who like to big themselves up. They remind me of the Germans, maybe less talented, but possess the qualities which I enjoy watching more than the fairy football of Spain, Portugal and the like.
@ Costas
When did Ghana get “plenty of ref assistance”?
Strange how everyone hypes up the likes of ronaldo,messi,rooney,torres,kaka and dosent mention david villa in the same breath. Very under rated player and he never fails to perform on the big stage.he always outshines torres
@Mhihrh
I agree. For 34 mn, I thought he was a bargain for Barca.
Woah did you see 3 lung just now? NICE
@arijc
Sorry, I didn’t elaborate. They got it indirectly. In the Serbia-Australia game when Serbia where denied a penalty and a legit goal. 2-2 would have sent Serbia instead of Ghana to the last 16.
@dela
Same here. I will enjoy taking the piss at them once Uruguay damp them out in the quarters.
Park is playing his heart out. I’m supporting Korea for this one.
Wow anyone watching the Uruguay v 3lungs Park and co, how impressive have they been, what a come back bye S Korea brilliant to see.
Anybody who thinks 3lungs is not a class act really should be watching that match, he is probably hands and head way above anybody else on the field in terms of effort commitment and purpose.
Delivered at least 4 killer passes just top notch.
I also think I have not seen a team like S Korea with such a great sense of fair play and abiding bye the officials decisions, not even once i believe have they sorrounded the referee in any way, or any imaginary card waving.
Just all absoloutly fantastic, they have done themselves and their country proud.
Tournament record for cards, no reds, 3 yellows.
Suarez scores, dammit.
correction 4 yellow cards, lmao
Cracking goal from a cracking player.people say he is over rated but he is an excellent player.takes time to settle down but once he does he is unstoppable
Darn. Incredible strike by Suarez. I still don’t think he’s worth 20 million though.
Gutted for Park. The strikers have been wasted at least three brilliant chances that he created. Just hope it isn’t all over for Korea.
Another killer ball from Park. What a player!
Suarez would NOT make it in the Premier League. There are much better strikers out there, his price tag is still largely unjustified, and doesn’t fit the bill for United.
Welcome home Ji. Hate Uruguay but honestly they are a better side. Smarter one.
First in my prediction is right.
Louis (over rated) Suarez bangs in a double, lol. Unlucky Parky lad, but at least you’ve made your mark in this WC.
Can we sign up Diego again?
My first prediction is also correct.
It’s a shame for Parky, but they did well to get this far. The way things stand, Uruguay could reach the semis…
Costas,theboogeyman – if only i could share your enjoyment..
@Corea
Thank about it like this: Park can finally rest now. Personally though, I don’t have a favorite in this tournament anymore. I feel the same about most of the sides. It just feels good when a prediction is correct. I must admit though that I underestimated the Koreans.
Suarez isnt over rated but we have good enough strikers.dnt need anyone
Imposter!!
@ Moscow is my heaven
How do you know he won’t make it in the premier league. I mean what have you seen of him that tells you he won’t. From what i’ve seen of him at the World Cup Alone, he ticks all the right boxes and the small matter of his record in holland. I’m not a stats Fiend but he’s record is pretty impressive. .
I personally think he’d be a good addition with rooney playing behind him, i get the feeling rooney is missing playing with a striker who knows where the back of the net is
Costas – koreans were a little naive and lightweight. i knew they would have a chance but unfortunately that stupid goal came.
I support Mexico ) but i wouldn’t call it enjoyment if they win one game or another. stupid WC.
The semis will most likely be Uruguay, Brazil, Argentina and Spain…..It will be a dive fest to relish for the ages. Forget abotu golden boot, it is best dive to aim for.
Well that will be a Billion people happy on one continent then, well played Ghana.
I think if Ghana score a second, thats it over for the States.
Ghana having lost only two goals to this stage of the competition I cant see them losing two in one game.
The possibilty of a draw at the end of the ninety minutes is not to be discounted from the equation just yet.
Lets be honest though, the States have so much more sport to salivate over than soccer!
Fit lads though, nice touch bye there manager Bradley when he hooked his player, I like that, togetherness.
U S A pouring it on.
How many more players are we going to see in this biggest of all competitions looking for the glory sign me goal! its a pain in the arse, and selfish.
I think in fairness its seems to be more prevelant in less obscure players or in other words relatively unknow.
Also all players after you do something good or great ffs stop looking up to the in stadium screens its just fricken annoying and more of look at me, thats just not aimed at Ronaldo all though he is one prime suspect.
Get in there Donavon, hurdy gurdy man.
Smile George. lol
1 1, good pen.
Why does the commentator there on Uk telly( Itv) have to say, this is the Goal that Dempsey scored against Robert Green, what a plank, let it go, build yer players up, twat not destruct them, twat.
Game over goodnight. thank fuck come on Africa
Ghana gonna do it.
willieredetc
imposter??
Slim
From what I’ve seen of him in the World Cup, his passing and decision making have been poor, sometimes he’s too selfish for his own good. His positioning is excellent, but that doesnt take away from the number of times he’s slowed down Uruguay’s attack. Not to mention he’s a greasy, diving cunt, we’d be foolish to blow our money on him, when we can spend the same amount of money on a better striker. Which we won’t do. A goal like that in the WC will probably add 10 more million euros to his price tag, trust me, we don’t need him. We need someone in the mould of Torres.
How good as that lad in the Ghana goal been, total class, wots his name Richard kingson i think fucking class, take a bow Africa.
@GHTT, i THINK Willie was having a pop at AIG, I liked AIG loved his posts always informative although sometimes negative, but he did not post that there, that AIG said we dont need Suarez, we have enough good strikers.
Just a little bitch fight. lmao
Why can’t they just play the game until the ref blows for full time? I mean seriously, do they have to roll around acting all injured and sh*t. That second half of ET was awful. This is getting ridiculous now. I will certainly be rooting for Diego and Uruguay in the next round.
Suarez is a good finisher but nothing more. I personally am not sold on him yet. If not for Forlan doing all the hard work and starting all the attacks then he would struggle to find the back of the net. At 20 million he is over priced. Gutted for Park but he did well to help his country come this far, Evra will welcome his return.
Guys i’m frm ghana nd i’m reali xcited
look me an Costas fell out, but he still loves me, lmao, the wee antoginist and right here in Scotland.
So looking forward to 3.00pm uk time tommorow. Come on Wayne prove the fuckers wrong.
And who said your not the best STRIKER in the world, no flash or shite and also not a cunt that constantly looks to the TV, mate you could sing the national anthem, lmao.
Just simply the best. Do yourself proud the morro Wayne.
@ passe mour… Guess u are not been fair to the Ghanaians. Jealousy??? U can support whoever u want.
I guess I have to eat humble pie then. Well done to Ghana, although I still feel that Serbia should have played against the US tonight. Anyway, Uruguay-Ghana is am interesting contrast.
@RedScot
It’s ok, I still love you, lol. And I will win the rest of my predictions.
Come on England, Argentina, Paraguay, Holland, Brazil and Portugal.
@ Costas Mate, you no I am as Red as you, not as as informative with detail, I winna change my predictions Ingurland to win it, lol or Holland.
Its turning into a great tournament it was slow and dire intially and now now it bangs into life.
I am personally chuffed a great continent are still in the competition for there economy and the the lads and lasses in that continent is just brilliant, and hopefully inspire them all for growth and increased well being.
i will give you a song before the match the morro, lmao
I made a fortune today thanks to Ghana’s win. Going with Germany, Argentina, Japan, Holland, Brazil, Spain for the rest of the fixtures.
@RedScot
Didn’t watch the games today, so I can’t comment on the quality. One thing is for sure. The teams that are advancing are the ones that seem excited about participating in a World Cup. It means a lot for both Uruguya and Ghana to be 2 steps away from a WC final. And that’s why hopefully we will get a good game next week. And I suppose that it is good for Africa to be represented in the last 8. At least this time we won’t have 4 Europeans in the semi finals…
I really don’t know too much about these teams. Just going on instinct and what I see on the pitch. I hope I don’t jinx England and Wayne tomorrow. The prospect of an Argentina-England game in the quarters is very alluring.
@ Costas ” suppose” shame on you lol. we need a new winner mate, its all up in the air as they say, mind who the fuck are they?.
Buddie I am very jaked I cant really blog or communicate with you sorry, just velly velly drunk.
Ohhhh yes we are coming over , wish old ingurland good luck.
Blows a kiss to Wayne*****, shut the fuckers up. End off.
yel get a song the morrow though.
A little drunk redscot, don’t worry im in the same boat. Come on England, send ze Germans home.
Good to see the two of you drunk, lol. I avoided it even though I was at a dinner table featuring some red wine. I got my usual head freeze from drinking too much coca cola, lol.
Tomorrow could be the day that Wayne steps out of the shadows like Roberto Baggio did against Nigeria in 1994.
I’d love to see Wayne play like he’s possessed tomorow, score and shut up all the muppets with a gusty performance, but how so if he is not even fully fit. I wonder what state he’ll be in for next season. I don’t think the time off Fergie will give him will be enough, even if England are knocked out tomorow. He’ll have to miss pre-season and maybe the first 2 months of the season to really get back to his best, imo. Something’s got to be done about his ankle, which still bothers him. After coming back from injury end of last season he didn’t look the same player we know, since then his touch has become poor.
@ Moscow is my heaven
Ha! Torres you say ?One can only hope right ? I actually thought about torres, my take is : If he’s available we should make a move for him. I mean who would really lose out in a deal like that (Liverpool ofcourse
).
Ronaldo dived like hell, Fergie will sort him out.
Chuffed to bits for Ghana, not just as an African, but because i think they’ve really got the right mix, Youth , Experience,Power,Skill. Of all the African teams,Black Stars have the most discipline,and organisation,really good to see
Ghana is going to get raped by Uruguay. Mediocre performance.
Bradley should be sacked. Terrible selection choices and always weak US defense underwhelms once again.
Glad to see reports about Utd being the dream club for Alexis Sanchez. Hope his dream comes true soon.
M&????E
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/802831/ce/uk/?cc=4716&ver=global
Look at what Milito has said about Wayne. Argie cunt.
Fabiano again states his preference for United…
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/31143.html?CMP=OTC-RSS
@arijc
Sanchez is quality, no doubt, but he is in the same mould as Nani. True, he can play down the middle, but I’d rather have us sign a playmaker than a frontman- which is why I really hope the Sneijder rumours come true.
Suarez is a cheating prick, i hope he rots in hell. anyway, Fabiano to United!!! Would be super!Berba out Chicorito, roon, fab, macheda, diouf IN!!!
@ dela
Agree with your reasoning, but i don’t think we will see a central play maker in the team. Fergie prefers creativity down the wings. In my opinion, in spite of Nani and Valencia in the squad, Sanchez would be a good addition.
Yeah the deal is 50% finalised. Fabiano wants to come. But our two new signings will probably be these two:
http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Hargreaves-and-Owen-hand-Manchester-United-fitness-boost-video/8529/
WELL DONE GHANA –
Not sure I’d call their performance mediocre tho??? Both goals were QUALITY, I’ve seen that Yankie keeper Howard somewhere before haven’t I? he’s quite good isn’t he? a decent shot stopper? and regardless of what you think about his positioning for the goals, Prince and Gyan still had to power past a number of defenders, keep their composure, and hit the target under more pressure than you’ve ever had in your life. Rooney would have been proud of either finish in a knock out WC game. So a shakey second half aside, Ghana were easily the better team on the night and deserved the win – they dominated the first half and dominated extra time. definitely deserved to go through. But Uruguay, I think, will be a touch too much for them in the final eight. But you never know, our boy Park was very unlucky not to go through.
Still, it was a Great Game last night. I wonder if Germany v England will be as entertaining?
Great second goal by Suárez btw, bloody ell. I’ve read people on here promote him but thats the first I’ve actually seen of him, it was a quality finish. I’ll have to see what else he can do but I don’t think we need another Striker, Hernandez has been sensational since the friendlies and with Kiko, Diouf, Welbeck unless we’re about to let some of our youngsters go I don’t think we need any more strikers. Owen is a cert as is Berb. I like Fabiano too, always have, but we don’t need any more forwards.
I know 99% of people on here claim hatred for the national side lol, but I know 100% of you will be watching the game. Funny that? Im no Ingerland supporter either but im also no mug, its going to be a quality game, tense, entertaining, and a festival of international football. Don’t cut off your nose.
Enjoy the World Cup lads, its just warming up !!!! and the new Season kicks off soon !!!!
Costa the fact of the matter is the deal could well be 90% done as far as all is concerned
its just that Poxy last 10% that can and I believe will put an end to it
as your link states and the state of the world that manchester united live in why would united need Fabiano when Micheal Owen is coming back. No disresppect to Owen
@Costas
I still have a feeling the Fabiano deal won’t come through. Fergie has a lot of faith in Berba and will give him another chance in a 4-4-2, with Hargo and Fletch forming the central midfield pairing.
@Paul Parker
I’m no Ingerland supporter either but I’ll be singing Rooney’s name throughout the game today. Hell, it will probably mean watching Stevie Me and Tiny Tears celebrate, but you can’t have everything in life, can you?
Go Wazza!
@GHTT
That’s how I see things happening too. If United were going to spend big on someone, it would be for someone we could get 5 years of top football from.
The problem in our attack at the moment is not numbers. It’s what happens if Rooney is unable to play. And given what he has been going through since April, there’s a good chance that his fitness could suffer at some point. There are plenty of ifs there. Will Chicarito and Macheda step up? Will Berbatov raise his game? Will Owen stay fit?
I don’t know about you lads, but when players come out and state they want to play for us, then thats the sort of players we should go for. If we sign Fabiano and Sanchez, i don’t think there would be many fans unhappy with that and i certainly would be a happy fan.
@dela
I hope you are right about the Hragreaves thing. If he can maintain his fitness, it will be like a new signing. As for Berba, I am pleased he will be with us next season, but I still feel that Fergie will use him when and where he sees fit. Meaning that we could see plenty of 4-5-1 if Wazza is fit and 4-4-2 with Berbatov if he isn’t.
dela – I’m not too sure about SAF having a lot of faith in Berba, he chose to play Nani up front against Bayern in the 2nd leg, when Berba could have come on instead.
@ GHTT
I see your point with Fabiano mate, hes definitely a better Striker than Owen (imo) so its understandable ppl feel Fab should be our prefered transfer target rather than keep Owen another year.
But, with Berbatov as our second striker, and Rooney as our first, and with Hernandez proving his ability as our latest purchase…. plus all the young strikers on our book… maybe it wouldn’t make sense to spend a fortune on Fabiano? I rate him highly, but he wouldn’t become our second striker, not with 30 million Berbatov on our books yet to show his great potential. So why pay a huge fee/wages to Fabiano if he’s not going to be starting 11 ? thats why I liked Owen coming in, he’s basically on a pay as you play wage so its a great bit of business to have Owen’s ability on our books. Unfortunately, Fabiano would cost us quite a bit, just to sit on the bench, plus he would COST one of our existing players their place in the squad. I don’t want to lose anybody – yes I’d love to see him here, but I do understand Alec wanting to stick with Owen, he’s a stop gap, a very cheap but high quality stop gap.
@willie
agree. also judging from the contributions of Berba thus far, I would favor offering him to Sevilla in exchange for Fabiano.
Paul Parker – Fabiano wouldn’t cost a fortune, he’s only a year left on his contract, so i would think the fee would be between 10 and 15 million, anything above that would be taking the piss, when any club could get him on a bosman next season.
Dela – Really looking forward to the game tonight, I remember saying the other day on here even tho I hate the england set up and 70% of the fans, its still hard to not be moved by a last 16 game between Ingerland and Ze Germans. Having said that, if the “lions” lose tonight I’ll bet my house they’ll lash out at police and locals, despite the hospitality they’ve received since they arrived. Scum, and if they do act like savages tonight I sincerely hope they are shot down with Rubber Bullets and tear gassed. G8 Protesters get rougher treatment than so called Ingerland supporters these days. Bizarre.
Willerednut – I’d be surprised if Berb didn’t start mate. I agree Alec had no faith in him v Bayern but to be fair, Alec made the right choice with Nani, he fancied our chances v Inter and the smart money was on a Nani performance not Berbatov suddenly playing like a Spurs striker again. But Having said that, with a break, a new Season, and a new hair cut, I think Alec will stick by Berb one last year. But your right, if we sold Berb and bought Fab, I’d be gutted but also very happy with the replacement. Fabiano is a player than thrives on service and link up play, so with our wide players and Rooney, I could see him doing v. well for us. But you could say the same for Spurs-era Berb, so Who Knows?
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2010/06/27/1997581/chile-starlet-alexis-sanchez-has-heart-set-on-dream
Not too bad a player….
Willierednut – 15 million? All things considered thats cheap, but what about Fees/Wages ?
Im no expect but from what I know sometimes the wages can end up adding a fortune to the overall cost, so even if the initial fee to his Club is low, his personal wage demands might be high.
But if he ends up at AC for 15 million and a modest weekly salary, then yes, I’d be a little dissapointed. He’s wanted to join us for yeeears now, and he’s been a great striker for even longer. But again, his REAL cost would be one of our existing players losing their place, and I don’t want to lose anybody mate. Eitherway it will be very interesting to see how we line up. Wouldn’t be surprised if we didn’t bring in anybody and Alec defended that by saying he didn’t want to lose anybody, not even Berbatov. Thats the type of Club we are, Berbatov does deserve a final year to prove his worth as a bonifide second striker, but with the likes of Fabiano knocking at the OT door, another underwhelming Season should mean we let him go. Until then im happy to keep him another Season even if it means missing out of Fabiano. I think Berbatov will be more prolific this Season, just hope it all doesn’t decend into a battle of the statistics like it did last time. Regardless of what Rooney does, I expect Berbatov to be pushing for closer to 30 goals in all competitions than 20…. 25 goals in all competitions and I’d be happy
lol @ im no expect, I sound like Nani.
@Paul Parker
I agree. Berba has had a horrid season, but we all know that on his day, he is one of the best forwards in the world. What’s more, he loves the club and genuinely wants to win over the fans.
Look at our striking options for next season- Wazza, Berba, Owen and Chicharito. We have Kiko, Diouf and Welbeck but I expect at least 2 of them to go out on loan, so we’ll ignore them for the moment. Signing Fabiano would relegate Owen to fourth choice and Hernandez to fifth- and that wouldn’t be fair on either of them.
Fabiano is a quality player but his signing would have to come at the cost of Berbatov, which is why I am hoping this deal doesn’t come through.
i dont know if anyone watched lost but from 2:47 in this clip it fills me up with tears , its so well directed the music is perfect the acting is amazing and the storyline is amazing- its makes me ry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQ0WpxJ5WjA
and yet if it gets too much for ya you can click the vuvuzela button and it grounded again
Paul Parker – 30 goals in all competitions? A tad optimistic, i don’t expect Berba to play enough games to get even close to that. Regardless of who we sign, or don’t sign, i’d think Berba will be spending most of the time on the bench next season, especially if Hernandez hits the ground running.
GHTT – Never got into it, the wire for me.
ah willie i loved it but i was only messing by taking an emotional bit out of it and saying how you can just play the (FUCKING STUPID WRECK THE FRICKIN HEAD) horns over them
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/429471692?-11193
There must be something in the water today, another player saying good things about us.
manutd_updates: Iker – Utd and City want me http://retwt.me/1NBDx #football #news
As much as i despise the English, Bang ‘em in ROONEY!! Fuk the Germans!!!
Now that’s a proper come and get me plea from Fabiano. Very good player who is keen to play for Utd but can’t see Fergie going for him, we’ve only just bought Hernandez. If Fergie’s thinking of loaning Welbeck, Macheda and Diouf out next season, as unlikely as it seems, then maybe we might go for him as we’ll be left with only one reliable striker – Rooney – while Berba, Owen and Hernandez are not as reliable for various reasons, so we’ll see what happens.
I personally think the only player we should go for is Sanchez. Versatile, quick, tricky intelligent lad, tracks back and wants Utd. He has the potential to be a star. We have many options out wide already but Nani and Valencia are the most productive than the rest. Anyway, Park will play more in midfield, next season is probably Giggsy’s last. Form, fitness and rotation may keep either one of Valencia and Nani out of the team so having Sanchez, an extra winger, and Obertan as back up won’t do any harm.
Based on what Luis Fabiano is saying… He is BEGGING for United to sign him!!! Age is a problem though…
Casilas yes, got a good few years left in him, worth a good 20million.
Fabiano no, too old and he isn’t the type of player to play 60 odd games in a year and if he was left out would only whinge. With Uniteds policy of only offering players in their 30′s 1 year contracts i cant see us or wanting to sign a 15 million pound player on a two year contract (7,5million a year). Thats just stupid.
Silva no, injury prone and costs the earh.
Sanchez yes, worth a punt has played well, won’t be too expensive and perfect age to learn the ropes without expecting 60 games. Can bleed into squad nicely.
Cole no, same reason as Fabiano – too old. Hes on a free but it will take time for him to bleed into the squad and be part of it. He will be looking for a lucrative long contract. I cant see us paying the wages he asks for especially as he isn’t as well regarded and successfull as the United lads he’d be playing with.
If we got Casilas, Sanchez and Hernandez already got and Fabio and Rafael and are a year the wiser and a few games from Hargreaves, a fit Owen, a good fit down the rigt with Nani and Valencia. I’d be more than happy. I dont want to see United signing players/superstars for 30+million who were a good fit for another team and may flop here. Plus a few more games for the youngsters and a year wiser Gibson.
To be a ruthless bastard as the game dictates I wouldn’t be surprised or too bothered if bothe Vidic and Evra hit the road. All of you reading this have their arses prolapsing as you read this but players have to come in and players have to go, its the nature of things. We all love them, get used to them and recognise their qualities but its a squad game.
Vidic is class but I feel more responsibility for Evans wouldn’t neccesarily be a bad thing, We’ll still have Brown and O’shea as cover and young Cathcart and Gill knocking at the door, not to mention DeLaht after his loan spell. I feel its time to choose between Rio or Vidic and its a safer bet to rely on Rio, whos not wanting to swan off away from home (England), than Vidic. The stories just don’t go away.
Evra is a fantastic player but he is 29, he cant run up and down the wing for much longer with the SAME ability as before. I also feel the world cup under his belt that he will be not mentally right. What he did, arguing and fighting with the fitness coach just wasn’t Manchester United. With heavy heart if I was Sir Alex I’d cash in now, Madrid would jump at the chance and a swap for Casilas would benefit both parties. Mourinho wants a new keeper, we need a new keeper, Madrid would prefer Evra to be their wing back and it offers a valuable space to Fabio, who in my eyes is the future on the left.
I wouldn’t rejoice in these two players going, they have been fantastic, I just think its the right thing to do.
Evra for Casilas, 15-20million for Vidic, 10-15million for the Sanchez fellow and we’re sorted. New keeper, new winger, new forward in Hernandez.
Chicharito is gonna condemn Berba to the bench next season. Berbatov’s biggest chance came this season, when he had NO competition apart from Rooney, and when even he was injured he failed to produce. If we are to sign Fabiano at the expense of Berbatov, then so be it. Here we have a 29 year old retired international failing to produce, and the FIRST CHOICE BRAZIL STRIKER, who has said HIS DREAM is to PLAY FOR US. I cannot believe some fans’ blind faith towards Berba, I love the guy, not the footballer who PLAYED FOR UNITED. Sure, Chelsea might have kept faith with Shevchenko, based on what he did for AC Milan, but ultimately, you have to take into account the player’s contribution to his CURRENT TEAM.
Berbatov has failed. Let’s move on. Football is a ruthless but professional business. If Berba stays (which is v likely), I will give him my full support, but I won’t be suckered into believing he is one of the best STRIKERS in the world based on his United performances.
no no willle, lol, not 30 goals a Season.
I said I’d expect him to be “closer” to 30 Goals in all competitions this year, which isn’t asking much, he was on 23 goals per Season for Tottenham in all competitions, so considering we play more games and provide much better service I’d be happy with 25, thats close enough to 30 for me. I know I know, People were saying before…. aah, well Rooney was our main striker, blah blah, how can Berbatov reproduce his Spurs form if he’s not our main striker blah blah. Bollocks. While Berbatov was hitting 23 per Season Robbie Keane was also hitting 23+ per Season in all competitions. Between them they were close to 50 per season in all competitions for two Seasons in a row, and thats at SPURS.
I don’t care what Rooney is doing. Whoever our Second Striker is shouldn’t care either. If you add up all the sitters Berb missed through lack of confidence he would have been a damn sight closer to 25 in all competitions than the piss poor 12 he managed last Season. 12 in all compeitions ain’t good enough. But this Season, I can see him banging em in, I think Berbatov will finally reproduce the Spurs form we all admired, because if we are honest, he played alot better with Robbie Keane than he has done with Rooney, and at Spurs they were BOTH main strikers as they BOTH were scoring for fun at the same time on the same team. So I don’t think 25 in all competitions is asking alot of a 2nd United Striker considering all the games we play. I haven’t given up on our widow peaked maverick just yet !!!
@GoatinaUnitedShirt
For a keeper, would prefer Neuer above Casillas any day. Even Buffon is be a better option.
Regarding Fabiano, i think he is 30. He has one year left on his contract and clearly wants to leave. Wouldn’t be that expensive in terms of transfer fees. If he can agree to wages that are in line with the club’s policy, I would welcome him. He still has the pace and the strength to do a job. He would also serve as the ideal mentor to the younger strikers like Macheda and Hernandez.. Would love to see some sort of swap deal involving Berba and Fabiano happen.
Between Ferdinand and Vidic, as long as the rumours are just rumours, I would pick Vidic 10 times out of 10. Ferdinand is just too big an injury liability right now.
As for Evra, he is still one the best left backs in the world. So I don’t see a reason to sell him now. I’m sure the real reasons for the French world cup fiasco will be revealed in due course of time. However, I would still like to see the club make a move for Lahm. He can bring real quality along with the adaptability of playing at both right as well as left back. Would give Rafael the opportunity to learn as well.
Agree on Sanchez. We need to get him this summer. Also nice to see that he wants to play for United.
In my opinion, Brown, Berba and Ferdinand should be the ones closer to the exit door.
@Moscow – I agree, sticking with Berbatov when we have Brazil’s first choice Striker beatig a path to our door is bizarre. But thats United mate. Alec has been unequivocal that Berbatov will be here next Season. Personally I think this gamble will pay off. He’s hit rock bottom with us, he can’t get any lower, his back is against the wall and he has nothing to lose. I think he’ll deliver more goals next year. I’ve been happy with his link up play, just wanna see more GOALS. I understand the frustration mate, but Alec is doing the right thing sticking with him. Don’t forget he’s already brought in Hernandez to hedge his bets. Its a shame we’ll miss out on Fab, but I think we’re about to see the best of Berba, really do.
@ Goat – To each his own mate! But Sanchez isn’t worth Evra’s right foot !!!
@ Dela – Spot on, at Spurs I’d agree he was on of the best Strikers in the world at the time. Where did that player go??? lol. Berbatov seems a humble fella, so I guess the price tag and Cantona comparisons really got to him. Right now I think we’re about to see the best of him, really do. Agree with Fabiano too, I actually really rate him as a player, top quality, but I’d rather stick with Berb one more Season.
I don’t think Fabio is ready, he is still finding his feet. Unlike his brother he hasn’t had a run in the first team due to injuries and we are yet to see consecutive solid performances from him; he hasn’t shown he can do it in the big games yet. We can’t simply cash in on Evra just because we’ve been told Fabio’s better than his twin, no matter how impressive he looks for the reserves when playing. Evra is a vital player, as vital as Vidic and Rooney. He would probably refuse to be sold too. If we are going to cash in on him though, it cerainly won’t be this summer or even the next. Fergie’s will give time to Fabio to develop fully.
Paul Parker – Ok then, 30 goals in all competitions this year is still a tough ask for a striker lacking confidence. If he gets close to that, i’ll be over the moon, but i don’t think he’ll get the games to reach that target. Hernandez for me would be ahead of him, there’s no point on leaving this kid on the bench, he’s ready to go imo.
More Rooney on the wing I presume? Oh joy…
Costas – Is he not behind Defoe?
@FZE123
I get what your saying with Fabio possibly not being ready but we are risking Evra playing. There is no way with a player of his pride that he hasn’t been effected terribly by the whole France issue. I just wouldn’t be confident picking him. Cashing in was probably a bad turn of phrase i mean now you can get good money when nobody else may have thought or think the French issue is important.
As with Vidic, I for one think hes a top player but i don’t want it to become the Bruce Pallister situation or the Keane Scholes situation again. I mean two world class players, playing together for a long time and maybe a little too long together. Of course consistency is valuable and it brings success but by the same measure with success comes other teams studying your success and working out how to play them. If your in the spot light you will be seen as it were. Mixing it up and a little variety also is a good means to success. I agree that Vidic is slightly the safer option in regards to play than Ferdinand, be fair though they are two seperate styles, BUT I wouldn’t want to release both Brown and Ferdinand and then Vidic want to leave next year.Its easier for forreign stars to leave England than the English lads because the forreign lads are not forreign to the idea of moving to forreign lands. If Vidic was moved on, we would get a good deal and it would make Brown think twice about moving on as a space opens up for another CD in the squad. He may well think that if it doesn’t turn out well with Evans early on then “heres my chance”. You also have to take into account that with the FIFA home players rule coming in Ferdinand and Brown are of higher value. Its easier to find good English defenders at the moment than good English forwards so your forreign quota has to be used up up field.
I also don’t want the da Silva twins moving on and i felt there were rumblings of discontent with one of them at the end of last season. Its just the lesser of two evils.
When I get older, I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom, just like a waving flag
And then it goes back, and then it goes back
And then it goes back.
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So we struggling, fighting to eat and
We wondering when we’ll be free
So we patiently wait,for that fatefull day
It’s not far away,so for now we say.
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When I get older I will be stronger
They’ll call me freedom. just like a waving flag.
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So many wars, settling scores
Bringing us promises, leaving us poor
I heard them say, love is the way
Love is the answer, thats what they say.
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Come On Wayne ******* all the best mate, prove the doubters wrong.
Chile have been playing brilliantly, but I’ll be honest I haven’t been focused on Sanchez, so lets see what he does against Brazil. If he’s just a winger I don’t think we need him – Nani, Valencia and Obertan are our future, let alone the kids coming through, and Giggs still has much to offer. Even Park showed last Season he still has it out wide. If we bring in Sanchez as a winger, who are we keeping on the bench? Between Valencia and Nani they provided the vast majority of Rooneys goals, and both are looking to score double figures next Season, seems a strange time to put either on the bench for “the next best thing”
People have said Sanchez can play through the middle, that would make more sense then another winger, but to be perfectly honest the only person I’d rate to sit in our midfield is Sneijder, he’s been quality for years and he’s still young. Other than him, im not really interested in bringing anybody else in. With new limitations, im happy to let Berbatov have another year, let Giggs and Scholes have another year, and be patient, Brown and Rio can’t go on forever either, so lets be patient, at least for another Season rather than force people out RIGHT NOW just so we can sign an untried johnny come lately.
Really proud of our boys after last Season, and with Hernandez in, and Hargreaves back, and a number of players with it all to prove… im not sure I’d want to lose anybody this Season. Alec is a frugal man, he will bide his time and let players naturally bow out from the club, and give his youngesters time to step up. I wanna see Gibson and Anderson fighting for a place in the middle, I’d rather see that than a new midfield signing, even if it was Sneijder, but thats just me. I don’t think the kids of 1999 was a fluke, I think its the best way to run a club imo.
Look at Messi and Ronaldo, both products of Rjikaard and Alec grooming young talent. BTW, I’d be very very worried indeed if the rumours about Rjikaard to Liverpool are true. He is the man who built Peps Barcelona side dont forget (except for Pep’s visonary sale of Eto and a huge sum of money for Ibramovic) Let me put it this way I’d be happier seeing Pep go to Liverpool than Rjikaard. Just a thought.
ENJOY THE MATCH FELLAS !!!!
Route 1 football.
Robert Green could have made that save
Manchester United sign that lad Mesut Ozil, star man on the field.
omg, how bad are England.
I’m sorry but Terry and Upson have been close to playing like a sh*t. Two cheap goals to concede.
The media has been saying all they want about Rooney, but simply there’s no good supplier from the midfield. Apart from Stevie Me who plays good, Lampard and Barry have been nothing but a spectator. They lost possession way too often and have no idea how to supply a killer pass to either Defoe or Rooney.
Stop building everything around Lampard/Gerrard just unleash Rooney to do what he wants to do.. heck let his rage explodes, that what makes him best.
Worst player on the pitch scored lol.
There is a life line
That was fcuking in, crazy game lol.
Any one for Video technology?
@RedScot:
You know who’s laughing atm right? That effin disgraceful Bladder.. I mean blatter
I know Willie total toilet brain, that Blatter.
Its a fucker of a way to be losing.
Sorry that comment was directed at Rad legion, sorry mate
I have to say, Defoe leading the line better than Rooney, get into the game Wazza!
Disgracefull
Germany are a better team than England. It is as simple as that.
Bloody disgrace. That was in by a foot.
And Wazza is playing behind the frontman yet again. Capello seems to reckon Defoe is a better finisher than Rooney. When will he learn?
At this level, Barry and Upson are exposed as the over rated players we all know they are. If the Argies beat Mexico, Messi will run riot against this England team, there fooking static in midfield.
I think as a unbiased onlooker, David James as kept in England in the tie, beyond the disallowed goal, best england player of the first half bye a country mile, imo
@Moscow: they were for the first 30 mins or so, then England started to pick up the pace.
@Dela:
Yes, it’s just a weird decision. I’d say replace Barry with Carrick, at least he knows how to pass to Rooney.
I hope England get hammered. I’m sick of this bullshit excuse of being “unlucky” everytime we go out.
England are not good enough, soon as everyone including these idiots who go and watch them and waste their money realise that the better.
The difference between losers and winners is the ability to recognise when you’re not good enough and your faults and then decide to start from the bottom and work the way up improving. England are still at the bit where they think they are world beaters.
The media have their excuses ready to sell the papers tomorrow morning. Personally I can’t support and love any team other than United. Germany could be 5-0 up by now. Ingurlund are shite. Let’s see how good they are if they can come back from this now.
@kennylad: I won’t go that far but I agree to your point.
I mean seriously how could a beer helped england beat slovenia.. that just simply doesn’t make sense.
Kloose was miles offside in their first goal, Rooney was onside, Defoe was onside, Fat franks goal was miles over the line, The Officials are fuck*ng tw*ts and Platini is happy as fu*k.
Off the bar again.
How much are the English missing Rio now?
Jaysus have the English support gone to sleep, why are they not shouting to drive their team forward and boost the team with some vocal support.
I think everybody is licking there wounds rather than dealing with the situation in hand.
Game over.
As I have said previously, Barry lost the possession again and yup this one was quite crucial
Seriously Barry is so overated just replace him with Carrick already
Yup and again Barry couldn’t keep up.. 4-1
All So unecessary, genuinely feel sorry for England.
A dreadfull tonking.
England lol.
And at this point why not unleash the real Rooney, why don’t let him play like he does at United. Let his rage explodes who cares if he gets carded.
One bonus is get to listen to that knobheid Durham on talk shite and cry this afternoon, a wee bonus in every dark cloud.
? Who is gonna get slaughtered in the media tommorow, bets ? lol
This isn’t a beating, it’s a tanking. All the talk about Sven only getting England into the quarters, this teams far worse. Golden generation my arse.
Sorry to England fans, but this was a long time coming. Capello with his tactics has abused football. I feel bad for Wayne and every fan that went there expecting more.
Who’s that imposter in the number 10 shirt for England? I don’t know that guy lads.
@willierednut
I think the plan was to use Rooney as a winger and have him swap places with Gerrard. But his best position is to lead the line. This has been the case for a year now. Capello never got the memo. Congrats to Germany.
Get Rooney back to the Manchester treatment room, the kid is clearly injured, and if any fuckwit says he wasnt trying then they have absolutely no idea of how he plays.
This has been an eye opener for me, Milner is average, Cole maybe not the player we need and Wayne still has a bit to go before he can even begin to put him up there with Messi and co.
And I agree about Wayne not being himself. But the same could be said for the England captain and the “Captain, Leader ,Legend” who would lead England whether he had the armband or not. But England’s real problem is Capello and the fact that he lost the plot.
What a load of…
Rooney injured should not have even played – Capello knew it and yet insisted on playing him – should have been a trump card sub – at least for the first 3 games at least
No change in midfield –
Defence were rubbish – oh boy what the English would have done with Neville
Attack – Sorry Heskey and no Bent – and not playing with Crouch…
Lost for words really – Germans really beat England at there own game
Poor Wayne, he’s out of form and what can he do when he has to play with this shit lot? England’s players are simply not the quality of the United players. I wish all the commentators would shut the fuck up about the so-called “world class” English players after this. The English players are not world class just because they play for Chelsea or Liverpool. They’re just made to look much better than they are by the likes of Drogba, Torres, Essien and so on. Fuck the “Golden Generation”. Sadly for Wayne, he’s only 25 and has more Euros and World Cups in him. That’s a shame because the young generation coming in after Terry, Gerrard and Lampard is probably even worse. Just retire from England, Wayne. This is beneath you.
Peter – You know Rooney will get all the abuse from the abu media, but thats not the Rooney who was fooking class for us last season.
Write the future:
Sir Alex Ferguson will bring Wayne Rooney back to immortality : )
Fuck the non believers – it’s our shirt that matters
4-1 flatters the Germans, but this was bound to happen. Stevie Me kept taking shots when he should have passed, Rooney was playing behind the frontman when he should have been spearheading the attack, Barry was shite and so was Johnson.
Rooney has had a terrible tournament but he still has shown his class with his performances for us. It isn’t his fault if he is surrounded by a bunch of wankers who insist on shooting from thirty five yards. I honestly can’t recollect one good cross that Wazza has received all tournament.
JA! DEUTSCHLAND! Anyway not to worry. I’m sure the English louts will smash up a few shop windows tonight and put some pride back in this country!
I didn’t expect more from Upson, but in most of the Germans’ goal Terry is nowhere to be seen. Seriously, no one can only blame Rooney for this. Or the linesman. The Germans were smart enough to hammer England and take that excuse away from the Sun and the Daily Mail…
Was that England or Blackburn Rovers?
dela
No it doesn’t. Germany could have had 7 or 8 if they put away all their big chances.
Its no coincidence that this is the poorest England team at the world cup, and how many United players were there? How many goal scoring opportunity did the England team set up for Wayne in 4 games?… only one against Slovenia.
That 3rd goal that England conceded was a disgrace, why in the fuck didnt Glen Johnson foul the man with the ball when he had the chance too, knowing all to well that the defence was outnumbered by the attack. If it was Vidic, Neville or whichever United defender they would of fouled the player to stop the threat of a goal, but Glen Johnson let his man outpace him because he knew that another yellow card would of meant him missing the next game.
@MG
Well said mate. I don’t care how Wazza plays for Ingerland and their ‘loyal support’ as long as he plays for us the way he did last season.
It was never in any doubt. Clueless manager (who some fans wanted to replace Fergie!), star player unfit (Rooney), poor tactics, a Rio-less defence, unreliable keeper (kept them in the game today but you can never think about, let alone believe, that you can win the WC without a world class keeper), all graft and no spark or creativity whatsoever. Same oollld England.
Come on Brazil, I have my utmost faith in you! And come on Mexico, too!
When you watch England at a tournament, it really hits home how bad some of these players are. @ dela 4 1 flattered the Germans? I thought the opposite lol.
Pmsl @ Gary, cracker
@ dela – Could have easily be 6 or 7 goals to 1…
can we please get Ozil
I hate to say i told ya so, but once Rio got injured, they lost their only CD with real pace. Thank god Carrick wasn’t on, that would have been another scape goat for the abu media.
Germany – Argentina should be entertaining.
@arijc
Amen.
@ Colbert, agree. The England team is made up of individuals who look good in a team with foregin, technical players, just ‘good’, but not ‘world class’, bar Rooney and Cashley cole, imo. Milner was just gash today, 30 million, my arse.
@arjic
Agreed. Ozil is going to be such a star. We should go for him. We could use a midfield playmaker/ second striker. I love his movement and he’s very quick with excellent technique.
I see Rooney movements, he tried to sneak behind the defender, but without a killer pass from Scholes, Carrick, Valencia and even Nani how could he even score.
The serbvice he got here on the England team could not even be compared to what he gets at United. This one was more like “hey Rooney here’s the ball for you, but pass it back to me please” It’s just nonsense. The only service Rooney got was when he pulled back to pick up the ball. Absolutely rubbish. No quality crosses from either SWP, JCole and the rubbish miller. How on earth could he score?
When I watched the US game yesterday, there was a quality service from the midfield (dempsey, Bradley, donovan) to Altidore.. the only different was that.. the guy just could not score. It’s just so different than the england game. Heck Defoe did not even get service from the midfield.. only a few from Rooney.
And why not playing Carrick. I absolutely was very critical about him. But Barry made Carrick looks like a fantastic player. Do I even have to mention Terry? Rubbish. Leader my butt.
arijc – Ozil was very good, but then again, what was he up against?
TheRadLegion
I emphasise again, Germany are a better team than England.
@ Costas, Good evening Dear, so you have written off Meccicoh then. lol
Cmon Hernandez looking forward to this tonight.Our new potent striker.
@fze123
Exactly. The hype in the English media annoys the fuck out of me. I bet Germany and Brazil can easily produce 10 players every year who are better than Milner, Upson and so on. If Milner is worth 30mill then Ozil and Muller would set new transfer fee records.
@willierednut
Ozil has been excellent in all the matches he’s played.
OOT
Check this out guys…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2010/article-1289984/Let-join-Manchester-United-Brazil-striker-Luis-Fabiano-eyeing-Old-Trafford-switch.html
I’m wondering if I’m going to bet against Argentina in this match or wait to see if they win it and bet against them if they face Germany. I don’t think they’ll win the world cup because the defence is not strong enough. Germany will certainly counter-attack them to death, but maybe Javier and Mexico can take them as well. Heinze, Demichelis, and Gutierrez at right back are disasters waiting to happen.
I think this game highlight the fact that people calling our team (MANCHESTER UNITED!!!) a one man team, may have to think again. You dont provide the quality or service to Rooney he wont be able to do much, and the England team have proved that in this tournament. Its no coincidence Rooney is superb with United and average for England. United>Ingerland
@willierednut
I get your point, but I’d like to say again that this guy isn’t a flash in the pan. From the u21 European championship to the German league, he has impressed and he isn’t doing his reputation any harm at the World Cup either. I’m looking forward to watching against the better teams also.
@Moscow:
Yup, you could not take away from the German team, they were by far the better team. I only analyzed what was goin on with rooney and england team in general
The fear England should have is as simple as this, that Germany team is so young it was being built to win the Euros in 2012 and world cup in 2014, there is the problem, it wont win the World cup this time but its a growing excercise.
Face the facts England have flattered to decieve to get to the last 16, as we all know if we are honest, there hype and hiding from the facts.
There was no basis to say ever that England would get to near to the Semis.
South Korea as an example would have given Germany a tougher test than what England did.
Colbert – Argentina will beat Mexico and then the Germans. I thought Bastian, i’m not even gonna try and pronounce his last name was the best player on the pitch, he controlled the midfield from start to finish.
Oh dear. Must laugh. Finally Ingerlund have been shown up to be the shite they are. Fucking Stevie Me taking potshots from all over pitch greedy cunt, static Barry who had a ten yard head start on Ozil. Maybe now the media will stop licking Capello’s arse. Ripped apart today. I thought Germany were “poor” and “unexperienced”. Well according to the media they are. Get fucked. All over at last for another 4 years. Back to proper football soon. Did I see Aig on here giving it the sarcasm? Why?
Anyway regarding purchases I would be happy with Sanchez and Fabiano as would most I bet on here. Been well impressed with the Chilean. Pace, trickery BUT very very hard working and like Fabiano WANTS to join United. Let Citeh buy the average Milner. Exposed today. Just get home Wayne where you are loved. As for Casillas? No fucking thanks. Golden boy of Spain. Over rated as well. Do not like him. Also not convinced about Neur.
Well thats the hype come to an end and all the flags will be down. The media will hammer Rooney and blame the linesman but it boils down to one thing. Ingerlund just aren’t good enough, nowhere near.
United > Ingerlund
@ Willie, Schweinsteiger. lol
@willierednut
We’ll see:) I’ll hold you to that;)
@ Eric, right on the button mate, bingo.
Off too the pub to sink a few and loosen up for the match later, laterz.
Willierednut – Hello pal. Agreed. Scweinsteiger was class today. Bossed the midfield. Cannot believe he is still only 25 and has 70 odd caps. A great player.
I haven’t seen much of Schweinsteiger since the last World Cup when he was a decent winger. When did he turn into such a top class central midfielder?
We all knew England were rubbish, but the real question for today is, will Chiko Hernandez start for Mexico?
As a united fan, I always knew how rubbish england are/were. But for a second there a genuinely thought that maybe, just maybe Gerrard and Fat Frank will step up and start providing our Wayne with good chances, and maybe even win against those fuckers. But NO. Im gutted for Wayne. After the constant criticism he has been receiving, about not cutting it at the highest level, he once again does nothing because of those morons that are just fucking clueless.
I am angry at
those idiotic referees.
Heskey, for being nothing but useless donkey.
Rooney for not retiring from that ungrateful lot.
Lampard for not being good enough
Gerarrd for being a twat and constantly choosing to shoot instead of passing.
And the comments from once adoring Rooney fans, that are now dissing him. Just reinforces my belief of
UNITED > england.
Stevie me – Germany’s Man of the Match. How many shots did he have? How many poor passes did he make? How many times did he give it away?
Alan green trying to defend stevie me. – Asshoole
How long before the effigys of wayne are being hung outside and burnt west ham pubs.
Cheers RedScot lol. @ King Eric I thought he was class today, showed up Lampard and Barry on the world stage.
@ GoatinaUnitedShirt, RE Evra: Yes, the France fiasco obviously has affected not only him but every French player, but at least he can take comfort from the fact that his country weren’t the only embaressment; look at Italy. We will see how he performs next season; it will be a test of his mentality, but I’m sure he’ll overcome it. Ronaldo and Becks were made scapegoats for known reasons, they were worse positions than Evra is at the moment, but they didn’t let that affect them when playing for Utd afterwards – all thanks to Fergie. Evra is still first choice and is too damn good to drop for Fabio or O’Shea. Dropping him won’t make things better. When Evra recieves a warm welcoming reception and hears Utd fans chanting as he walks out at OT on the 14th of August, all will be forgotten and he’ll be focused to help us going for glory yet again.
@Peter I hope he does, but that idiot of a manager doesnt like to start him. And seems to prefer Franco, Dos Santos and that useless Vela.
Seriously, what does Hernandez need to do to earn a start? Anyway COME ON MEXICO. lol
Thank fuck that’s all over, now I can look forward to the world cup without all the vulgar over excitement about how England are going to win the world cup. The only one I felt sorry for is Rooney as he is surrounded by fucking shit players which will inevitably effect his performance. Now he can come home and be loved by us, but get himself ready for the abuse he will get from the opposing fans next season – the same one’s who lauded him as the nations saviour, but will blame him for Englands predictable shortcomings in major tournaments.
Schweinsteger and Ozil are class. Said to a couple of guys before the game that Germany would win 2-1 and those two would run the show. Thomas Mueller is class too.
@dela
I concur : )
@KIng Eric – well said buddy but then some of us already knew that didn’t we : )
Again Germany played like a premiership team – and we played like a fucking we know it all team.
Germany actually and I know this may be hard to digest – they actually played like United – counter attack the opposition and soak them up to Kingdom come.
Of course the op actually scored a goal though that was disallowed – you can’t buy such bullshit – again I couldn’t care less – happened to us with Drogba not so long ago with an offside decision…
Fucking refs/linesman/uefa/fifa – all bullshit…
Its a shame Rooney was surrounded by such incompetent teammates, not taking away that Rooney was quite poor himself! That is the FIFA WORLD Player of the year nomination GONE!
One thing that I have to point out is that the WC can be deceiving when it comes to players. Truth is that individually England have better players than Germany. And there are not many players from that Germany team that could cut it at United. It’s just that this Germany side is a TEAM that has been developed over 4 years. Watching England was like watching Pele or Zidane’s XI at a friendly game. No team spirit and no heart.
@RedScot
Sorry didn’t mean to disrespect Mexico. If they start with Chicarito and hit them on the break, they could cause them problems…
No disrespect but Rooney is some way behind messi, Ronaldo
As i said yesterday the likes of Villa, Sneijder, iniesta dont get enough credit.
Funny how capello could do no wrong before the world cup and now he’s lost the plot? I usually support england at tournament’s but this year the hype was just too much and I’m glad they got beat and thumped real good too. IS Frank Lampard not the most overrated piece of dogshite you ever saw? what exactly does he bring to the team? I also couldnt bear the thought of the thug lifting the world cup or tiny tears having any sort of joy at alll. Hint to the next england manager, play as many english players as manchester united have got, lol. Mexico to knock out the Argies please!
Hang on though
Fucking JT
Ashley Cole best left back in the world?
Who is Glen Johnson?
Shouldn’t James be on a P45 or whatever it is?
Upson – enough said
Milner to City for 30 million – where do I have to say let me laugh to my heart’s content
Lampard – actually tried today – but still where does that Lampard go for England that scores all those goals for Chelsea?
Stevie me – Stevie me : )
Gareth Barry – is no Hargreaves – so if our player has been unlucky with injuries – he’s still a class act that has actually won things and made a contribution to where he has gone – as for Barry…
Wayne – injured simple
Defoe – tried thats about it
As for Joe Cole – no chance not even on a free when you have Nani and Valencia and Ji
SWP equal to Lennon equal to not International class
Crouch – why didn’t he play more when he has a better goal scoring ratio?
Carragher – should have stayed retired – Ledley King – was always going to be injured – bad luck on him
Green – should have been kept on – don’t believe scapegoating him helped
So yes the England management and Squad were deluded – Capello for his brilliance could not look into the future and change the squad to how he should have had it without any prejudice or misgivings – take Rooney for note – injured but still played
The squad should be ashamed of themselves – same team electrified qualifying yet came here and well s*** themselves – meaning something else behind the scenes went on which is a disgrace.
And no it wasn’t not having Joe Cole in the team – it was more than that. The whole damn team were headless and lacked bottle and fight
Rooney22United – I don’t know if he’s still carring an injury, but he’s been poor in this WC. And before people start saying he’s playing with shit players, i’m talking about the simple things in the game, first touch, passing and his overall game was just lacking any real spark.
Hi guys. Maybe everything has been said bit i would like to drop some points.
1. Capello is a good manager.
2. England lacked stamina. It was so bloody obvious.
3. Glen Johnson is not a defender.
i supported england with almost the whole of my heart today(couldn’t help myself). i somewhat hate germany. but they were a better side.
Rooney
@Costas
I think you have nailed it my friend
Germany for all there youth or misgivings have had 4 years to come together or maybe two if you are being picky but then that is more than phenomenal
And England played like a best of eleven team.
Well said
willierednut – you don’t know everything mate. football is a team game. rooney had this kind of moments playing with US but nobody mentioned it.
MG – I didn’t realise how bad Glen Johnson was, a real eye opener this WC.
I think Mexico can give Argentina a game, if Aguirre starts Hernandez, someone with pace, who makes clever runs. He would be a constant threat to Argentina’s fallible defence. He does make impact as a sub but if the Argies are 2-0 up anyway, then bringing the young lad on and expecting him to do something is too much of an ask. Blanco and Franco, for all their experience, are poor and pretty wasteful. Aguirre should be reminded Hernandez’s great record for Mexico.
Christ, im soooo glad I didn’t leave home to watch that lmao.
Funniest thing is how the Media and Ingerland fans in their wisdom said they wouldn’t miss Rio. Glad it came back to haunt them. He’s the best Centre Back they have, everything fell apart without him.
As for the substitution, they should have taken off Rooney for Crouch and kept Defoe. Rooney’s been piss poor since he got there, and service or not he hasn’t looked 100% at any stage, he’s looked poor in that England shirt. Fabio should have been playing Little and Large (Defoe and Crouch) from the beginning and kept Rooney as a plan B. David James is the best Goal Keeper they have and the most experienced, so why did Rob “who?” Green start in a World Cup? As for Gerrard on the Left that never made any sense, Joe Cole can play down the Left, so Lennon should have started on the Right, Lampard and Gerrard in the middle and Joe Cole on the Left. Thats support for the Strikers. Instead you have Milner and Barry, who both looked out of their depth…. while Cole and Lennon sat on the bench.
You gotta laugh – Rooney never ever EVER looked like scoring out there, but Defoe did and he was taken off for it so HESKEY could come on??? Crouch is Engands best Striker by a mile, and he plays with Defoe week in week out, yet he sat on the bench while Rooney had the worst game I’ve ever seen from him. Fabio was flogging a dead horse with Wayne, he should have kept him on the bench as an impact sub and started with Little and Large. Crouch must be scratching his head and Bent must be laughing.
@fze123
Seconded. Blanco can’t even run! I think young Javier has 8 goals for Mexico in 2010, I can not for the life of me understand why he’s not a starter for them. He’s better than the rest of their strikers, that much is obvious.
Corea – Rooney had these moments with us, really? I’m sorry you talking rubbish. Yes, Rooney did have the odd average game for United last season, but nothing as bad as that. I’m glad you cleared up that footballs a team game, i wouldn’t have known that, thanks.
@willierednut
i agree with you. granted Rooney didnt have greatest service but he was horrible to watch. far away from the players who took the stage by storm in 2004. that Rooney loved running at defenders, beating them and scoring screamers.
willierednut – i am not talking about this season only. he is a very talented player but he is a very eccentric player and like every other striker needs some help from the midfield. I am saddened to hear comparisons being made about how he is not near Ronaldo’s Messi’s quality so quickly.
Sorry to hear sarcasm from you. Didn’t mean to teach you football. But what’s done is done. You are welcome Buddy.
“you don’t know everything” i meant We don’t know everything. maybe this what made you so irritated. anyway we are not on equal terms. maybe i should study english a bit before daring to post here.
Corea – You didn’t teach me anything other than talking cack lol.
final thoughts on yet another hilarious ingerland campaign lmao – today should have been:
James
Johnson, Dawson, Terry, Ash Cole
Lennon, Lampard, Gerrard, Joe Cole
Crouch, Defoe
Rooney and Milner on the bench, Barry back in Manchester.
to me that looks a better team than Fabio’s selection.
Nobody out there really looked comfortable in their positions. except James, who was teh best player on the pitch by a mile and showed why he should have started instead of Green. Can’t get away from how poor Rooney looked today, regardless of service, he should have been substituted. Taking off Defoe for Heskey defies all logic. Complete opposite of what should have happened (Rooney for Crouch)
Today it was too predicable from Ingerland, they never once showed a threat from BOTH flanks, everything was slow and clumsy and poor. Primitive Football. If Fabio opted for speed and skill on the wings instead of Gerrard and Milner, maybe the Strikers would have stood a chance. If Brazil had a choice between Lennon and Milner for the right wing do you think they would choose Milner? No, they would choice the natural right winger. If Argentina had to choose between Cole or Gerrard out Left, would they choose the Central Midfielder? No, they would choose the skillful left winger. This is what I mean, the England set up is a fucking joke, 100% cult of personality with a pinch of Random decision making for good measure.
Uber Bollocks Fabio, uber Bollocks.
lmao and never mind Africa, its only Spain and Portugal and Germany to go now then its lights out for Europe. The media are excellent at deflecting criticism. The South Americans are RAMPANT. Mexico should give Argentina a good-ole, bad-tempered, passionate fight tonight, looking forward to it.
@ Colbert, he’s starting apparently. I must say I am shocked. Hopefully he’ll do well today.
willierednut – i try to do my best Buddy.
Costas – I have seen Ozil play for the last 3 years and he definitely looks a good player, someone who I think could cut it at United. He’s a clever player who uses the ball well and his vision is excellent. I watched this guy make mincemeat of England in the Under-21 Final last year when they won 4-0. People go on about England having better individual players, but I cannot see the justification for that assessment, these players have under performed consistently for the national team. Rooney should do the decent thing and sever all ties with that joke of a set up. People keep saying how he doesn;t perform for England the way he does for United, the answer to that is simple, he is surrounded by better players at United who play to his strengths and a Manager who encourages that too, it’s not rocket science.
It’s unfair to say Rooney’s not on the same level as Ronaldo and Messi, he carried our team last season, showed up against top sides, could have scored 40+ if not for his injury. Still the best striker in the world, imo better than Villa. Did you guys believe the media, who were so sure Wayne will end up top scorer this year. I said this before the WC, he will struggle to find the back of the net due to his fitness, the medicore players around him and Capello favouring Heskey up top.
Kings – Rooney did peform for England in qualifies, no ? general idea is right though. and main tournament is pretty much different.
Fze123 – it is not about comparing in itself it’s about how quick people jump to conclusions.
it’s not nice to hear that.
@corea
sorry mate. if you ever felt he was in the same class you were mistaken. good player but one good season dosent make you that good
@Fze123
Excellent! Hopefully he’ll do well.
At least Wayne will get a decent rest now and of course, we the fans will give him the proper support he deserves.
mhihrh – i just want US to show some respect to the player. Yes, i felt he is up there. And yes, i understood that he had some way to go to fulfill his potential. But football is a team game and he brings something else to the game instead of scoring goals. He is immensely talented but he has some issues. At the end of the day these issues make him Wayne fucking Rooney.
@fze123
he is a good player no doubt. as is said people underestimate Villa. he has beena proloific goal scorers for more seasons that Wayne and that was for Valencia who arent as big as united. Villa’s goal against Honduras was individual brilliance, something that the Rooney of 2004-05 could have done but the rooney of today cant. he also used to score plenty of screamers, he dosent do now. he has had just one good seasons. he has to continue this form in the coming seasons. he has time on his side no doubt but he hasnt become the Rooney we thought he would in 2004
Well heres my England rant:
Fabio Capello, is a decent manager with a decent record but with England the way it was he was trying to teach a cat to heel. The injury to Rio showed in this match as he lost his only true organiser at the back.
David James – did what he could and thats all you can ask. If you call in John Wayne to do your plumbing don’t be surprised that its done by a fucking cow boy.
Green – Shit goalkeeper always has been hence he plays for the premier leagues selling team, only problem is no one wants to buy – should just about tell you whats wrong with him then.
Hart – Best English Goalkeeper and player of the tournament.
Glen Johnson – completely fucking useless at the back, didn’t do anything of note in all 4 games. Going forward he didn’t shine like he did against the minnows in the qualifying rounds, surprising that.
Carragher – a slow retard, sums it up. Run at him and youve beaten him.
Terry – Apart from being a grade A cunt hes a grade B cunt, grade C cunt and grade D cunt. Without Carlvalho or Ferdinand he looks like Carragher.
Ashley Cole – despite his preference for the sausage he wasn’t eating from the germans hands, maybe the only player during the tournament that tried a little.
Upson – See Rob Green, just not good enough and picked above the likes of Gary Neville and Wes Brown.
Fabio Capello Part 2 – see upson – you wop cunt.
King – Queen.
Gerrard – prances around like Jack Charlton but by no where near the skill level of the great peacock. Shoot shoot shoot thats all he can do, this would explain the rise in teenage pregnancies in Liverpool. Looked as flat as a pancake – unlike his missus who was lying flat with a pancake.
Lampard – Doesn’t Essien, Deco, Ballack and Drogba make this boy look good.
Milner – getting around a few Hondurian full backs or shimmying past past a 35 year old Salgado is easy but will be returning to Birmingham wondering why it wasnt easy against footballers.
Barry – Not a very good Gerrard which is saying something and his missus is being done by a yorkshire pudding as we speak.
SWP – runs past people and gets into space but then doesnt know what to do.
Defoe – should be on the pitch and by far Englands best goal poucher but first the ball has to be close to the opposing penalty area.
Rooney – Give him some fair comment the ball was never really on its way to him but what sets out a world class footballer from a decent footballer is being able to do something of class out of nothing. Rooney got plenty of nothing but created fuck all. The Argentinian was right it is laughable to compare Rooney to Messi.
In all I would like nothing more than a food blender, some rope, a water pump, a hose, the england football team and all their personal belongings in a large warehouse and of course the host my good self. I can safely say you can grind down a leather sofa and with a bit of spittle enima it up Gerrards arse.
@Corea
of course we will mate. he is extremely talented but as i said he hasnt develpoed into the Rooney i thought in 2004, terrorizing defences with his pace. there are times when you have to lift the team, something Rooney couldnt at the world cup. His first touch, passing was poor. even today he lost the ball so many times. these are basics and i expect wayne to get that right at least
@mhihrh
You are clearly mistaken. Rooney is not a one season wonder/hit. He has been a good player for us for the past few years. This year only, truly showing his killer finishing skills and playing like a proper forward. He might not be better than Ronaldo and Messi, but it would be unfair to judge him based on his poor performances during the WC and insisting on questioning whether he is up there with them, when they themselves haven’t set the world cup a light either…
Conclusions about what? Rooney was brillant last season for United, so he was always going to get compared with the other top players in europe. Of course, he shouldn’t be compared to Messi and Ronaldo, he’s a different player to those two, but he’s always going to put up there with the other top players, because of his form for us.
hernandez starts!!!! COME ON HERNANDEZ!!!!
a “nice” tackle on tevez would be nice also????
Goatinaunitedshirt – lol and sopt on.
Its apples & oranges really – Messi has more elements to his game than Rooney, just like Ronaldo has, so its hard to compare an out & out striker like Rooney to an Attacking Winger like Messi.
but, if you did compare them you’d have to say Messi is in a class of his own. We all know what a special striker Rooney is, so for Messi to score an equally high number of goals for two Seasons running in the second best league in the world, despite him not even being a striker, just goes to show how special Messi actually is. He’s not even a striker yet he scores as many goals as Rooney does in Rooneys best ever Season??? Messi is different Class, we all know how much skill Rooney has with the ball, how well Rooney can beat his man with skill, but jesus, have you seen Messi with the ball at his feet? He has a ridiculous amount of skill on the ball. Im as skeptical as the next person when it comes to footballing superstars, but that boy is different class.
I still say Ronaldo is the best player in the world tho, with Messi a close second, but thats just me. As for Rooney I think its unfair to compare him to Attacking Midfielders like Ronnie and Messi, because they obviously have more elements to their game, they dribble, they create, they see more of the ball than a Striker does. But as far as Strikers go, yes, Rooney is the best in the world, for me at least….
…just make sure he’s wearing a Manchester United jersery aye
@Sketch
prior to 2009-10 he has average seasons. going goal less for long periods and scoring in patches something he bettered last season with his brilliant consistency. the fact that he gone goal less in this world cup isnt why i am saying this but he has been woeful at first touch, passing something you expect him to better at.
*spot*
Don’t care what anyone else says. I love you Wayne Rooney and this is not your fault. Rooney is and will always be world class. Rooooooooneeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!
looking forward to el diego and Argentina. tipped them to win the WC.
Hernadez starts for Mexico. Glad to see that
On the Rooney subject, it goes without saying the guy is Player and a half.Compare the lad to who ever you want. He’s special. That said he was horrible today and in this tournament. I think its the “new” way of seeing Wayne Rooney. Fans here to make this frustrating assumption.
Rooney isn’t a striker, at least not the type he’s being played in for both United and England. Why in God’s name are we trying to turn such an expansive player blessed with skills and attributes other footballers will give an arm and a leg for. I’m glad he’s scored 30+ goals for us last season but i cringed when i thought of what had been sacrificed into turning him into the player we were cheering for.
Funny people say Rooney not as good as Ronaldo and Messi, Yet Both players have publicly said that if they could infulence their club to buy a player they would choose Rooney. Compare them all you want one player will always stand out, Until another players steps it up a level. So what if Messi is better than Rooney, somebody will arrive and upstage Messi, its just the way it is. Ronaldinho anyone?
For all the talk of attacking midfielders on this blog i pray SAF makes one more purchase and its a Forward that can play with ROONEY top. He’s best in a creative area, all this talk about him being a striker is just plain rubbish
oh dear, Rooney doubters? I guess it takes all sorts….
Wayne is the best Striker in the world, who right now is a better Striker than Rooney?
Drogba? Villa? erm… Drogba? Rooney does it in the Premier League that says it all.
Certainly nobody in his age group is any where near him.
I know, quite hard to say Rooney is the best on earth after that shite performace he gave, and no service is no excuse. Personally I don’t think he should of started, he looked unfit. But if the WC was in Febuary we would have seen a different Roo, he wasn’t fit and he shouldn’t have been playing.
But all that aside
Rooney is the best Striker in the world. For the good of the team last Season he became a poacher and scored the majority of his goals within the box, thats not because “he can’t do it any more” how could anybody think that? Watch next Season, Alec has provided him with enough cover in Hernandez for him to get back to his “final third marauding” best. Rooney is a fucking beast and the likes of the Spain would pay over a 100 million to sign him if he was for sale, and I assure you thats not to sell shirts, he would tear La Liga apart.
Great to see Hernandez starting. Enjoy the Festivities lads !!!
@ mhihrh, agree that Rooney has become somewhat of a goal poacher, not the same player who used to rip apart defences. I miss the Rooney of old, but that Rooney did not score 34 goals in one season, against top sides. Rooney has scored more goals last season alone up top, than he did paired with a partner, when he had more space to roam and be creative. He’s had his best season for Utd because due to stepping up prior to being overshadowed by Ron and playing in his favourite position at Utd – unlike previous seasons.
Just because he had one brilliant season for us, doesn’t mean Villa’s better, who did not get played out of position for a number of seasons at Valencia. He is profilic in La Liga, where defences are cardboard cut outs. Quality player who doesn’t shy away from the big stage but Rooney has it all, he is the whole package. As for his first touch, yes it’s poor, it disappeared since he got injured against Bayern, but if given a proper long rest then he’ll get it all back. He hasn’t been the same since then, his ankle is still bothering him.
*** Christ. Just in case, I use the term “Striker” in the loosest possible context.
Come on Mexico! I don’t gamble though.
Glad to see we still love Wayne Rooney
Goodnight.
Corea – Cheer Argentina for me lol.
Cracking Game !!!
@ Costas I new you were not disrespecting Meccicho, but you have been proven right tonight mate, just you got it wrong this afternoon, not that I am singing flower of Scotland or nothing.
Watching this brilliant game and of course following closely our new star* in the ascendency.
But yet again another fuck up with officials I hope my mates on the Promised land blog see this, I did say this would happen at the beginning of the tournament, mind they are Irish and they got screwed over big time.
Corea – That’s exactly what I was referring to, doing it on the big stage. Look at Klose and Podolski – couldn’t even hit double figures for the resepective clubs last season but have a phenominal record at International level and consistently deliver on the big stage. Qualifiers and Tournaments are totally different. This country still wanks over Englands 5-1 win over Germany in the WCQ in Munich in 2001, yet Germany made the Final of the 2002 World Cup and England flopped again in the Quarter-Finals. I love Rooney as much as the next United fan – my opinion on his poor showing is down to the players around him and his brilliant form for United is down to the players he has around him and I stand by that.
@RedScot
I felt really bad about the Mexicans. Up to that point Argentina hadn’t threatened them at all. As for Chicarito, his best days are just ahead.
I got 2 out of my 4 predictions correct so far. Come on Holland and Brazil, lol.
Yesssssssssssssssss, get in the Javier, you Star*
Ladies and Gentlemen
Sir Alex Ferguson has written the future
His name is Javier Hernandez
: )
@ Costas you well know I like you and your comments, gotta be carefull with the gay issues on the blog, Darling lol.
Your close with the Brazil (rom) thing, disagree totally with the Spain and Portugal issue, il bitch with you on Tuesday over that.
Cmon the Cloggies.
@RedScot
Well I don’t want to comment on this Rio stuff. He is messing around and he is free to do that. I don’t know how that indicates anything as to what Rio does in his personal life, but that’s just me. It’s not like he kissed Scholes on the mouth, lol…
@fze123
Fair enough but Rooney seems very disinterested. The reason i am saying this is because i wan him to do better. Surely he hasnt forgotten how to beat defenders or score from distance. he was good at all that so his current form is a big worry. Ok, he was played out of position but if you are World Class player it is because you can create ‘Something out of nothing’ or ‘Rally the team when tings arent going well’. You arent going to get good players around you every time. Sometimes Rooney himself has to make things happen. The way Klose played yesterday was exactly what a young Rooney did. Harassing defenders and making a nuisance of himself forcing errors. If he can do that again we will have a more complete player on our hands.
He isnt 100% but surely that dosent make him so poor that he cant control a simple ball. Thats hard to believe.
@ Paul Parker:
“I know 99% of people on here claim hatred for the national side lol, but I know 100% of you will be watching the game. Funny that? Im no Ingerland supporter either but im also no mug, its going to be a quality game, tense, entertaining, and a festival of international football. Don’t cut off your nose.”
Don’t feed the troll, I know, I know, but I had to respond to this inference that we’re all somehow closet Ingurland fans because we watched one of the big ties of the tournament. I s’pose we’ll all be closet Portugal or Spain fans (take your pick) tomorrow? I s’pose we were all Argentina or Mexico fans last night? I take it if Argentina and Brasil make it to the Final it means we secretly adore La Albiceleste or A Seleção ?
Give over.
Oh please. Mhihrr saying Rooney isn’t the player you thought he would become because he has had a poor world cup. He is fucking brilliant . It isn’rt just “one season ” but his entire time at United. Kick a man when he’s down.