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VIEW FROM THE ENEMY: Stoke Fan On Wembley, Shawcross and Transfers

Our next View from the Enemy on our final day is with Jon Owen from Why Delilah who has spoken to us about the highs and lows of last season.

Scott the Red: Were you happy with your team’s performance last season?

John Owen: Very. It was disappointing not to finish in the top half, but it was another season of progress for us. Winning 5-0 at Wembley in the FA Cup semi-final is something I’ll never forget. It was stunning. Reaching Europe for the first time in 30+ years was also a great achievement.

STR: After such a great semi-final, where did it go wrong in the final?

JO: Injuries to key players (Etherington and Huth) and a lack of squad depth caught up with us. Man City weren’t great, but they looked fresher than us and deserved to win.

STR: Who were your most important players?

JO: Robert Huth in defence was outstanding throughout. Jon Walters netted 12 goals and proved a lot of people wrong – he obviously knows where the back of the net is. The most important, for me, though, were the two wingers Matty Etherington and Jermaine Pennant. They gave us a different edge and caused teams no end of problems. We looked a different beast when they both played.

STR: How has your team done in the transfer market this summer?

JO: Not too much to report here. We have bought in Jonathan Woodgate on a free from Spurs. If he stays fit he’ll be a good signing, but that’s a big IF isn’t it?! We traditionally don’t do our business until the end of the August transfer window, so I’m not too worried with the lack of signings, yet.

STR: After a cup final last season, what are your aspirations for this season?

JO: More of the same. I reckon we’ll be mid-table again, anywhere from 14th to 8th. And that’d do me! A good cup run would also be nice.

STR: How do you rate your manager’s ability to take the club forward?

JO: I have every faith in him. He’s proven people wrong time after time, and I can’t see any reason why he can’t take us another step forward.

STR: Where do you think you will finish this season?

JO: 10th.

STR: Which player do you think will most important in helping you achieve this?

JO: Etherington/Pennant. We need them both fit!

STR: Which two current United players would you most want at your club?

JO: The front two, Rooney and Hernandez. Rooney has so much ability and Hernandez will get even better. I think their partnership will be even stronger up front this season.

STR: Who will finish in the top 4? Who will go down?

JO: Top Four: Manchester United, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool. To go down: QPR, Norwich, Swansea.

STR: Do you think Shawcross will stay for life?

JO: That’s a difficult one to answer! Every player has their price and Shawcross could easily play for one of the top four. He’s as good, if not better than Gary Cahill.

STR: Anything else you’d like to tell us?

JO: We need to get off to a good start and end the season much better. We lost our first and last three games of last season, which ultimately cost us a top half place.

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183 Comments

  1. Mahfuz says:

    First?

  2. Mahfuz says:

    Good interview. I also have a soft spot for Shawcross. Hate Stoke City though, cunts. Loud fans, but cunts.

  3. Philip says:

    Let’s up they can steal points from chelsea on sunday!

  4. keano99 says:

    I fucking hate stoke after hearing their fans at ot a couple of years ago.

  5. Dave Malaysia says:

    @MG: Happy Birth Day. Enjoy watching Hayley , on tv . :lol:

  6. King Eric says:

    Alright Lads. WOW. In Dubai and it is fucking red hot. proper nice hotel and well looked after.

    Fucking hate these small time Munich chanting cunts. Never seen anything as shameful as these at Old Trafford when the Rentboys won the league and they were cheering every Chelsea goal and singing songs. Fuck off.

    Back later on .

  7. King Eric says:

    Oh and if it is true that Sneijder is holding out, fuck him. I wanted him at United but not now. Dont want greedy cunts like that. Sunday showed that raw talent and wanting to play for the shirt can beat anyone.

  8. RedManWalking says:

    What’s happening in the press conference? Updates anyone?

  9. Neil's_a_Red says:

    Alright lads, new to this.

    Stoke are absolute wankers. Especially they way they went on at Old Trafford in 2010. Their fans are loud, but overrated. When we played them in October we outsung them for most of the game.

  10. ivanscholes says:

    hi, i’m new here! And scholesy is my favourite player! (:

  11. Dave Malaysia says:

    Stoke have stayed up ,bought well, quashed a revolt,retained thier discipline, stunned bolton at wembley. Finally running out of steam in the final.
    Bought well again this season,tough team to play.
    They win thier first game this season.

  12. kanchelskis says:

    So, Fabregas is at last done.

    Actually not great news for us. Arsenal were never going to challenge, even with him, and he’s now only going to add strength in depth to our closest competitors in Europe.

    Hmm.

  13. willierednut says:

    Some team news from the boss.

    Evra a slight doubt.

    Fletcher and Valencia won’t make Sunday. They will play in a reserve game on Monday against Arsenal.

    They come through that, they should be available next week.

  14. RedManWalking says:

    @willie is that all from the press conference?

  15. wayne says:

    just read this morning stoke are close to signing,barton and bendtner,well run club to bad the fans are such cunts

  16. willierednut says:

    Yes. Hernandez still 10 days away from fitness. It sounds like, he’s thinking of starting Cleverley on Sunday.

  17. Dave Malaysia says:

    If the guardian article is true, that we are no longer in pursuit of sneidjer, consider these few points:

    The article mentions Gill, maybe the club has let it be known thru the guardian , a tactical move.
    Meaning? the public statements by all sides suggest a chess game goin on.

    Is it , ‘ok we had it’ ,this is max ,lets see whats yr response.

    Not the first time this summer.

    A message to nasri? there is movement now,finally arse ready to let him go.

    Modric ,unless spurs crumble, he stays at least this season.

    Fergie’s Suprise? The one player maybe mentioned but no focus on . Gotze?

    Well tis is goin to be interesting till the window closes like Berba’s signing.

    Dont be suprised SAS Commander Fergie kidnaps or ape naps Sneidjer from Manchester Airport on the way to city.

  18. RedManWalking says:

    @willie

    ya read it in manutd.com right now. Looks like he is going to start Cleverley on Sunday. Fergie didn’t start Cleverley because he was playing safe as Shitty had players like Yaya Toure in their side but he was very impressed with Cleverley’s second half performance. So, I guess it will be Cleverly and Ando in the middle.

    By the way, what do you think will be line up for the opening fixture?

    I am thinking,

    De Gea
    Smalling Ferdinand Vidic Evra/Fabio
    Nani Cleverley Anderson Young
    Rooney Welbeck

  19. kanchelskis says:

    @RedManWalking

    I think Smalling played at RB last weekend only because of City’s height and physicality. I’m gonna go for:

    DDG

    Fabio
    Ferdinand
    Vidic
    Evra

    Nani
    Cleverly
    Anderson
    Young

    Rooney
    Berbatov

    Fergie has to make Berba feel loved if he’s going to get a good return on what will surely be his last season here. Dropping him for the first game is not going to achieve that.

  20. Dave Malaysia says:

    The ROM commandoes will help.

    Balaji with his camels to distract the shieks,and if that dosent help he and Cedars belly dance .

    Costas to throw olive oil on the road to stop the city staff in pursuit.

    smartalex,playing his bagpipes ,wearing his zulu head gear , to frighten the city staff.

    MG running with a hayley doll across the road shocking everyone.

    Giles Oakley standing in the center reading from his archives.

    WOW this cud be long ,so better stop here,u et the picture.

  21. RedManWalking says:

    Is it true Fergie banned all questions related to transfers and Sneijder?

  22. Jeet says:

    Boss says, “The only reason I didn’t start Cleverley was I just felt the powerful players they have in midfield like Yaya Toure made me a bit cautious about playing him from the start.”

    If I were Carrick, I would be fucking worried on hearing that statement…

  23. CedarsDevil says:

    kanchelskis

    Good line up mate, I would think that Rafael will start at RB though

  24. willierednut says:

    RMW – I agree with most of that lineup. Maybe Rafael instead of Smalling? I’s like to see the twins in both fullback positions. Good going forward and both have improved their defending. Smalling was top class on Sunday, so you could be right on that one.

  25. CedarsDevil says:

    Dave

    We get the picture alright! lol

  26. Petey Red Red says:

    I agree with red man walking, bar Anderson…. Think golden boy carrick will prob start…

  27. willierednut says:

    *I’d*

  28. kanchelskis says:

    @CedarsDevil

    I’m never sure which twin is crocked! Is Fabio doubtful? He seemed to be favoured at RB over Rafael towards the end of last season (CL final).

    Love Paddy, but there’s a tiny little bit of me that wants to see him pick up a knock, just so we can behold both twins at FB in the first team! Don’t think Fergie would do that in a hurry though.

  29. RedManWalking says:

    @kanchelskis

    The team I had in mind was the one you put up – except instead of Fabio, I has Smalling – but I changed the team because of recent comments Fergie made in the press conference.

    1) He said Evra was doubtful and had till tomorrow to show he was fit.
    2) He was full of praise for Welbeck. So, I thought maybe he might start ahead of Berba. But I am hoping for Berba to start.

    Also, I thought Smalling played extremely well in that right back position in the Shield match – my reason for selecting him in that position.

  30. Dave Malaysia says:

    Well Chris wud get playing time,does well at right back. Our current defence possibilities.

    Center: Vidic,Rio,Jonny,Chris,Jones.

    RB: Chris,Rafael,Fabio,Jones.

    LB: Evra,Fabio,Evans,Rafael.

  31. CedarsDevil says:

    I’s like to see us start with a bang

  32. Dave Malaysia says:

    @Cedars: u ok dude? hows maya?

  33. willierednut says:

    Yep. Fergie banned questions about wee Wes. The saga ain’t done yet!

  34. CedarsDevil says:

    kanchelskis

    Nasty but I see where you’re coming from…..lol

    By the way both twins are fit for a change!

  35. Costas says:

    How can he be happy with last season? United won the title. ;)

    I wouldn’t say the Evra thing is a huge worry. Fabio can fill in and something tells me that it will be Smalling on the right again. Fingers crossed Tony and especially Fletcher make it through the reserves game without any problems.

  36. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    For some reason, I’d actually end up laughing if United lose this match. I have no idea why. But the mass hysteria would be too good to pass up.

    :lol:

  37. wayne says:

    is MG naked with a hard on?

  38. RedManWalking says:

    @willie

    Exactly mate! Smalling played in that RB position very well – attack as well as defense – the reason I chose him there. But, I guess it could be Rafael in that postion ‘coz even though Smalling plays well there, he is seen as the successor to Rio. But, its still good to know that our back 4 are so flexible.

    Also hoping that Berba starts.

  39. Petey Red Red says:

    So has all news completely died on de Rossi?

  40. CedarsDevil says:

    Fergie banned the questions about wee Wes because just like me he is sick of the whole crap surrounding this non story…….

    Dave – Maya is doing very well my friend, thanks for asking

  41. Dave Malaysia says:

    @Balaji: dont say spooky things. Retract ,shake yr botty and say camel 3 times.

    @wayne: sad yeah and close yr eyes, hes hairy . :lol:

  42. Petey Red Red says:

    I’d also like de gea to have his first clean sheet of many this Sunday, confidence is key. And if fergie has it so do we, de dum dum dee

  43. CedarsDevil says:

    Balaji – Stay away from the Dubai sun buddy

  44. wayne says:

    never wish injuries to a utd player should never tempt fate,evra has to pick his game up this year otherwise he’ll find himself on the bench without injuries,that’s just bad karma

  45. willierednut says:

    Hairy bastard.

  46. Mes says:

    Small minded, petty and hateful fans. Munich chants, cheering for teams other than their own… Shitcocks.

    Hope Cleverley and Wellbeck start on Sunday. They really seem to have a bit of an understanding developing. Although I think that’s more down to Cleverley being brilliant than anything.

  47. Dave Malaysia says:

    @willie red nuts: hope u aint as hairy,ugly picture that, red nuts swinging ………

  48. Petey Red Red says:

    Thank fuck the wait is over! Can’t stand another Sunday with the family…… 

  49. Costas says:

    The Sneijder farce will only end on August 31. At the moment, even if Fergie’s right testicle moves by 1 inch, you’ll find people linking it with Sneijder somehow. It’s even worse than the Berba saga. At least then we knew what the situation was and who was the jackass in the whole deal.

  50. RedManWalking says:

    @Cedars – or it could be so that the ABUnati don’t scupper his deal for wee Wes by twisting his comments!

  51. RedManWalking says:

    ;)

  52. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    Cedars and Dave, :lol:

    Of course, I know we are going to win this one. But, just for a second, imagine that we end up losing and the Sneijder deal ends up dead in the water. The mass hysteria would be comedy gold. I can imagine it already: “Fergie’s lost the plot.” “We need Sneijder.” “Gills’a cunt who can’t fix a deal for his life.” “Cleverley’s not United quality.” and so on.

    Of course, Sir Alex does not want transfer questions. The deal is still on-going for sure. No reprieve for Costas and Cedars, I’m afraid.

  53. Dave Malaysia says:

    wow never thot i wud see the day a manutd supporter says ” if Fergie’s testicle moves an inch’

    dont know how to process this!

    confusing…

  54. willierednut says:

    Dave – :lol:

  55. P.O.A.E says:

    its time we threw in tom cleverly at the deepend, never mind sneijder, i think the boy will be a superstar! (ulster red)

  56. RedManWalking says:

    Btw, feels weird with all the journos supporting us. From a survey, conducted by the BBC, where 30 commentators, pundits and journalists were asked about the top 4 – 26 of them said United, 3 said Shitty and one guy (who seems to have woken up from a coma he fell into the 1980s) said Liverpool.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14388154.stm

  57. willierednut says:

    Balaji ever the optimist. ;)

  58. Zelh says:

    good to hear that pogba has been promoted :-)

  59. RedManWalking says:

    into in the 1980s*

  60. Jeet says:

    @Dave – exactly! How do you even start trying to visualize that?!!

  61. willierednut says:

    P.A.O.E – Whats that stand for?

  62. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    @willie, I am still waiting for Fergie’s testicle to move an inch. Once that happens, I am going to start tweeting that the Sneijder deal is done.

  63. kanchelskis says:

    @RedManWalking

    Ha! It’s Mark Bright claiming that Liverpool will win it. In support of his prediction, he says:

    “The Reds have four players who could grace any team in the Premier League: Pepe Reina, Steven Gerrard, Luis Suarez and Andy Carroll.”

    ANDY CAROLL!! What a tool! United alone have probably five strikers who are better than that sack of shit!

    Plus Gerrard is well past it.

    What a dong. I think he’s been put up to it. BBC couldn’t have everyone predicting the same team, so he was probably told to mix it up.

  64. willierednut says:

    P.O.A.E that should be lol. I’m as bad as Cedric. :)

  65. Dave Malaysia says:

    Whatever they say, we must not get carried away.

    At least I feel comfortable ,Fergie will never let that happen. This Guru will play it like a chess game with multiple enemies and jokers in the pack.

    We will sign either nasri or sneidjer or a camel.

  66. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    @kanchelskis, What a tool that guy is. The only person I would think Sir Alex would even think about is Luis Suarez. That guy is the only world-class player in that team. Gerrard is well past his sell-by date. I think he had his best year in 2008, beyond that, he has never recaptured that form. In fact, I don’t even think a Top-4 finish is as guaranteed for them as some would like to thin.

  67. Dave Malaysia says:

    @Jeet : U got to ask the Greek!

  68. kanchelskis says:

    @Balaji Sivaraman

    If ‘Arry the fackin’ wheeler dealer pulls out some gems before the end of August, and Wenger too, then there’s easily enough competition to keep Liverpool comfortably out of the top 4.

    They lost 3-0 to Hull in pre-season, for Christ’s sake.

  69. wayne says:

    don’t understand why city want nasri,with one year 24mill and 170k a week wages is too much,city are fucking idiots,have a team of cast offs nobody wants because of wages,bobby manc said not one bid for tevez,what a surprise a mental case making 250k + a week and city want 40mill for him,good luck with that one

  70. Costas says:

    Come on lads. Don’t get testy. :lol:

  71. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    Right lads DONT FORGET to update your fantasy football teams and log in and see if we can make a good one.

  72. P.O.A.E says:

    pride of all europe mate…from the song we have…i needed a change from ulster red lol

  73. GoatinaUnitedShirt says:

    STR write an article reminding people about the fantasy football and re up the link for those that dont have it saved. Cheers mate.

  74. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    @wayne, Come on, I didn’t understand why they wanted fucking Clichy in the first place. That guy’s face reminds me of a porn star for some reason. He is a fucking tool and City payed top dollar for him. Compared to that, Nasri is an understandable buy by their standards.

  75. willierednut says:

    Scott has made a balls of this thread.

  76. CedarsDevil says:

    Balaji – Lay off the porn buddy, you seem to use the term for every possible description out there… Its enough we have to deal with thinking about testicles etc! lol

  77. wayne says:

    @Balaji hi mate nasri plays left midfield for gunners same position silva plays for city.everytime i watch the bitters silva always looks to be thier best player.How many players can one team accumulate,city are going to have to ship players out on loan and pick up most of the players wages or bargin sell off.otherwise end up with a reserve team with players making 100 to 150 k a week its mental.

  78. willierednut says:

    Big Paul Pogba promoted to the first team squad.

  79. Dave Malaysia says:

    Before i go hunt my dinner,shud share with u what Fergie said to his New son Ashley last Sunday at Wembley:

    Two great white sharks, swimming in the ocean, spied survivors of a sunken ship.

    “Follow me, son.” the father shark said to the son shark and they swam to the mass of people.

    “First we swim around them a few times with just the tip of our fins showing.” And they did.

    “Well done, son! Now we swim around them a few times with all of our fins showing.” And they did.

    “Now we eat everybody.” And they did.

    When they were both gorged, the son asked, “Dad, why didn’t we just eat them all at first? Why did we swim around and around them?”

    His wise father replied, “Because they taste better without the shit inside!”

  80. Costas says:

    Ease up everyone, lol. Every guy (other than Torres) has testicles. Since when did it become so taboo refering to them. :shock:

  81. sachu says:

    @willie
    is it true

  82. wayne says:

    just the thought of a naked hairy MG running across the road with a hard on and a hayley doll,big balls swinging in the wind like a apes,still early here Costas put me off breakfast.

  83. kanchelskis says:

    Pogba promoted to 1st team? What’s the source for this?

    TBH, that can only mean one thing in terms of the Sneijder affair…

  84. willierednut says:

    Is what true? About Fergie’s left ball? Ask Costas, I don’t know mate.

  85. bayobuya says:

    @Zehl, Were did you get that info on Pogba promotion can you share the link coz Ive been waiting to hear that.

  86. CedarsDevil says:

    Another nail in the wee Wes saga coffin………….. muhahahaha

  87. willierednut says:

    Just checked the website. They have Pogba in the first team squad. Also, Park has signed his new contract. Great news all round.

  88. CedarsDevil says:

    Else where, I heard that Sanchez is unhappy at Barca and would still welcome a move to United

  89. slim says:

    awww cesc has left the emirates. why city buying any player baffles anyone i don’t know. they bought lescott for 24 million FFS. they buy buy buy because there’s nothing else to do. The buying will slow down for sure. I bet the thinking is lets win a couple of titles then first. Fat chance of that happening.

  90. Costas says:

    Don’t know willie. I can only speak for the right one. :lol:

    Good news about Pogba. I just wish he travelled with the team to the US and got some first team experience.

    @wayne

    Ah, I see what you mean mate. We will try to keep the gross stuff for later in the day. :)

  91. Costas says:

    Yep, congrats to Ji for signing his new deal. I hear he’s not a bad player.

  92. slim says:

    bloody awesome, pogba, morrison and tunni in the first team, even king as well. The Reds go marching on.
    Check the manutd offical site. Click on players and staff and you’ll see a run down of the first team, reserves and so on

  93. willierednut says:

    He’s just a shirt seller though. ;)

  94. RedManWalking says:

    @Cedars – I think I heard sachu’s scream after your last post! *YES! YES! YES! YES! Aaahhhhh* :lol:

  95. Costas says:

    Why do I have a funny feeling that Park will play in most of our Ch. League knock out ties again this season. ;)

  96. wayne says:

    @slim it baffles me because city already have too many players,thier wages is more than revenue generated which will mean no CL when the fair play rules come in.Its ok buying,buying,buying, but whats the point if the team won’t be allowed to compete at the highest level,goes against wanting to become a top club.
    Hope that explains it

  97. Zelh says:

    Fergie said it on the press conference.
    Pogba is training with the first team.

  98. RedManWalking says:

    @kancelskis Did Mark Bright compare Andy Carrol with Shearer in his post? Or did I read that somewhere else? Shearer and Carroll – how deluded is he 8-O ?

  99. sachu says:

    @redmanwalking
    nice post and great humour. but i didnt scream .

  100. utdforever says:

    @ slim.

    Those same players you say that are in the first team are also in our Reserve team list so it seems a bit confusing. It even states Sam Johnstone tobe in the first team on the site so wouldn’t read too much into it guys.

    Hope some of these lads do make it into the first team though!

    Glad Park signed his contract so he can be focused for us this yr… we look really hungry with our reinforcements.. can’t wait till Sunday!

    An the reds go marching on on on!

  101. willierednut says:

    sachu is alive! :lol:

  102. slim says:

    @wayne

    thats the prolem right there mate. You’re thinking logically. They’re not.its as simple as that. It shouldn’t surprise you. Besides what choice do they have. Their bitter supporters are all giddy they can buy whoever they want. Well lets see how it turns out in a few years when they have only the FA cup they won last year and a carling cup to spruce things up a bit. It won’t matter how much they have because they’d have dug themselves into stinking pile of shit. The chavs have all the money in the world. Who have they brought in this summer?
    Its kinda weird asking that considering they spent 50m on torres and yet they’re fans are probably screaming out for new signings.

    And your point about the fair play rules thing. City are owned by billionaires. it will be justified some way some how, through some loop hole or technicality. They may be bitter and stupid but they are immensely rich

  103. RedManWalking says:

    sachu is back!

  104. slim says:

    @utdforever

    oh okay. chuffed to bits when i saw it and didn’t check the other squads. Either way its nice for them to be included in there.

  105. wayne says:

    @slim i thought the fair play rules was to make sure rich owners couldn’t run the club at a loss and still be able to compete,think rentboys are in the same boat as city,don’t know the rules fully,under the impression that was the point of them though.

  106. sachu says:

    @willie and red man walking
    yes i am back . i have become a doc so iwas busy for 1month but now i am back. and we still havent signed SANCHEZ AND SNEIJDER hi hi

  107. slim says:

    @utdforever

    zelh also said pogba training with the first team- not sure if he was referring to today’s press conference though. It can only be a good thing. Just want to add, i don’t care if Scholes has no coaching badge. He should be involved with the development of the young players in the first team or reserves. Just get him among st the lads. Its a different thing when he was part of the squad, the younger players could have learnt from him then but it would be nothing compared to quality of teaching he has to offer now he’s hung up his boots. He can talk to the young uns a bit more, explain to them what others won’t. Who’d want to jeopardize their spot by giving too much advise and tips to young upcoming player?

  108. CedarsDevil says:

    This is utter nonsense, complete bollox if you ask me.

  109. slim says:

    @wayne

    they got the emirates sponsorship deal. I’m sure they’ll be in the clear. They may be stupid but not that stupid. I don’t recall the details of the deal but i gather it was set up amongst others i’m sure to make sure they stay clear of trouble.

  110. UTD7 says:

    Gutted that the seijder deal won’t happen as he would be a quality addition. Hope Pogba and Cleverly make it this year. What about Petrucci. Supposedly he is impressing in the reserves and is staying fit. He is creative, two fitted and mauybe if given a chance might give options in that role?

  111. Zelh says:

    the sneijder-deal is still on.

  112. wayne says:

    Think its obvious Utd are playing hardball,think theres a take it or leave it offer to WS.

    http://www.herald.ie/sport/soccer/fergie-rejects-crazy-200000-aweeksalary-demand-2847004.html

  113. RedManWalking says:

    rioferdy5: Ji sung Park signs new contract at Man utd….the players player…#teamplayer loving it!

  114. wayne says:

    @slim i’m sure you’re right mate,just seems mental to me amount of players city have on their books and have a problem moving anyone on,its a wasteland for over the hill mercenaries.

  115. Milesplattingred says:

    We’d be fucking unstoppable with Sneijder but we’ll still piss the league without him. If he wants stupid wages or he just doesn’t want to come then fuck him, close the page and move on. We’ll be alright with what we’ve got i think.

  116. Zelh says:

    wayne – I would be shocked if Gill isn’t playing hardball with sneijder. he wants way to much, but I think both sides will work on this till the end of the transfer window.

  117. Zelh says:

    Imo they will find an agreement otherwise we wouldn’t have put in a bid for him if we weren’t sure that we can afford what he wants at some point.
    unofficial talks were held between his agend and gill before the bid was placed. So Gill knew if we can afford Sneijder or not. Now both sides want to push their offer through.

  118. parryheid says:

    He ain’t coming and as far as I’m concerned thank Christ.

  119. The Fly says:

    I bring good news for the anti-Wes camp

    Talks are still on but Sneijder isn’t budging on demands. Utd WILL pull out within days if it’s not lowered. Talks have NOT finished. We won’t drag this past monday and there is no ‘back-up’ signing either. Whether we pay him is anyone’s guess. Sneijder can’t expect to come here and be highest paid player, no one could argue that would be wrong for the club and other players. I love the player but the man seems like a greedy cunt if truth be told. If we agree his wages then it’s a done deal. I said wages were the only way it wouldn’t happen, I was right. But personally I do think a compromise will be reached. Though I am starting to agree more and more the fans who see it as a bad move, if he intends to hold us to ransom he has to be out of this world on the pitch for us, in every match home and away. WE WILL SEE. ONLY GOD KNOWS THE FUTURE.

    And although I haven’t seen it, apparently the Daily Fail printed a story saying the deal was dead. With no quotes. It claims ‘Board members’ told them about the deal. This is the paper Fergie told to fuck off. It’s a nonsense story.

  120. willierednut says:

    The long and winding road…

  121. The Fly says:

    oh and aparently fergie banned sneijder/transfer questions today. not a clue if that’s true.

  122. Mikekelly12 says:

    Parryheid – afternoon pal. So when is Nasri arriving?

  123. willierednut says:

    After taking questions all summer on Sneijder, he chooses to ban talk on wee Wes now?

    Think about it…

    Takes a wee wheel, to turn a big wheel. :mrgreen:

  124. The Fly says:

    apologies for bringing up the same story yet again. but couldn’t honestly care about stoke. decent team, good players and good manager. they’ll do us a favour by beating chelsea this weekend, but totally let down by their fans. idiotic supporters more concerned about winding up the opposition rather than get behind their own team.

  125. YorYor says:

    Pogba in the first team, yes! Wouldn’t it be perfect to shut the mouths of those who claim we need a new midfielder, if he did one of his trademark long shots against teams that matter?
    United’s youth academy are churning out/developing scouted prospects every single year, it’s lulling me into a state where I really don’t bother about players out there whose names are bandied about in the media.
    Though to be honest, there’s a niggly suspicion it’s just another move of a chess piece.

  126. willierednut says:

    Nasri will sign for Manchester… City! :)

  127. Mikekelly12 says:

    Ive said from day 1 Sneijder will sign and berba will stay. I also stated that I didn’t think we needed Sneijder. I’ve also said more times than I care to remember that if a player doesn’t want to play for us or will only play if offered ridiculous money, then jog on down the road to the wrecking yard that is wastelands!

  128. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Park extends contract to 2013. Park park wherever you may be…..!

    Love the man!

  129. smartalex says:

    Fuck Stoke! I will be stoked if they are relegated this season.

    We don’t want you in our Premiership, fuck off!

  130. parryheid says:

    Mikekelly 12.

    And afternoon to yourself has Nasri been put up for transfer ? When he is he will in pronto or do you believe the French rags with their City player in 5 hours,how many days ago was that?

  131. willierednut says:

    Oh yeah, this threads about Stoke! Mid table finish for the potters. Hope they take points off the rentboys on Sunday.

  132. Zelh says:

    The Fly – Sneijder questions were not banned. just embargoed till tomorrow.

  133. smartalex says:

    Happy birthday MG! Enjoy, my friend!

    ps Would you like to borrow a wheel-barrow for those big, hairy cajones?

  134. sachu says:

    @FLY
    good post mate
    if sneijder realy wants to join us then i am sure compromise will be reached.
    he has already won leagues in italy spain and holland. he is certain to win the league with us.
    on the wages , it will be intresting wat wayne rooney will want for his next contract. thats A LONG WAY AWAY

  135. The Fly says:

    yep. Nasri to City is imminent. 22 million. Far too much for someone with one year left on their contract. He’s not better than Silva anyway. Ridiculous signing.

    However. It does mean bye bye Arsenal.

  136. Zibbie says:

    @sachu congrats, Dr. Sachu.

    yes i am back . i have become a doc so iwas busy for 1month but now i am back.

  137. YorYor says:

    Wenger has an eye for young talent, but he’s not that good a judge of character it seems. One major difference between him and SAF.

  138. YorYor says:

    Wow, sachu became a doc?
    Wish you all the best, be a good doctor and try to be altruistic about it. Don’t be like those screwed up Chinese doctors in China who practise for the money, not to make people’s lives better/less painful.

  139. willierednut says:

    Whats up Doc? :lol:

  140. sachu says:

    rooney berba
    young anderson cleverley nani
    fabio vida rio smalling

    DE GEA

    FAB TEAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

  141. The Fly says:

    Brilliant that Pogba is training with the first team. Does that mean that Gibson is definitely off?

  142. sachu says:

    @YOR YOR
    thanks mate.
    i will try to do my best.
    @willie
    HOW ARE YOU mate .
    i cant beleive we missed out on sanchez

  143. Mikekelly12 says:

    I’d go with that line up Sachu. I think he’ll give Wellbeck the nod ahead of berba. Is rafael still injured?

  144. sachu says:

    @FLY
    probably.
    definetely if sneijder comes

  145. parryheid says:

    The Fly’

    Think it’s imminent huh and too dear at 22 mill,yet Sneijder at what 30mill + what near on 50mill wages over 5years is a good buy? A sticking plaster for one year considering the last time he played two consecutive quality years with a club was when he was at Ajax or am I imagining his performances with Real and Milan? By the way he would improve United as he is a great short term player but nah no thanks extremely poor value.

  146. The Fly says:

    Three Lung Park too. Fantastic news. There were rumours at the start of the summer sayingthat we would sell him. I never believed it, why would we sell someone who is instrumental in the huge games. Home to Chelsea when we basically won the league, he was different class that game.

  147. sachu says:

    @mike kelly
    berba has to start.
    if fergie starts welbeck then its cruel on berba.

  148. willierednut says:

    The Fly – I heard United offered Sneijder the same contract he’s on at Inter. That was rejected. I think we’re done there now.

  149. The Fly says:

    Nasri to City is imminent because, well, it’s imminent. He’ll be there tomorrow.

  150. sachu says:

    @parryheild
    mate, sneijder is definetely not a short term option. he can play for six more years at atop level.
    i would rather pay sneijders wages than nasris.
    because sneijder is someone who deserves big wages.

  151. smartalex says:

    @ Jeff Goldblum

    Something has survived. I hear mumbled voices from the jungle I’m struggling to understand.
    It sounds like they are talking about our lethal winger, I think … ‘Ji arsenic Park’ ..?
    Perhaps you can reach out to the spirits for guidance.

  152. Mikekelly12 says:

    Park Park wherever you may be……….
    Mancini saying we can’t count City as title contenders because he hasn’t bought enough players!!! Is that guy for fucking real?!!!

  153. willierednut says:

    The king in Dubai, lucky bugger!

  154. Mikekelly12 says:

    Sachu

    I agree, I’m a berba fan and would play him, however, I think Sir Alex will plump for Danny.

    Smartalex – if that’s true mate then fuck him. He obviously doesn’t want to play for us that much if he won’t accept what he’s already on. What are his options? Spend 3 more years at inter on £x amount or win titles in England on the same £x amount????!!!! Cock! (if it’s true)

  155. RedManWalking says:

    congrats sachu!

    And for those interested, the press conference – http://comeonyoureds.tumblr.com/post/8821356781/the-managers-press-conference-august-12-2011

  156. parryheid says:

    Sachu.

    Without a doubt he can play for six more years,unfortunately he wont for the reason I have already given.I would also dispute he deserves anything, you have to earn what you get.IMO he doesn’t.

  157. Mr C says:

    I think Sneijder wants to stay at Inter but Inter want to offload him for financial reasons, provided they can find some suckers to pay over the odds for him. He’s decent player but no thanks.

    I hope it’s true that we’ve walked away and the circus is over. It must be unsettling for the lads who are already here, especially young midfielders hoping to break through.

  158. Mikekelly12 says:

    Parryheid – god knows what will happen with Nasri, but did you not say in a few posts that Nasri to United was a done deal?

  159. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    I remember reading that park’s representatives wanted a 2 year extension to his current deal which expires in 2012. Today it been announced he has signed till 2013, so its a one year extension to his current deal .

    So this could potentially be ji sung park’s last season with United if he is cashed in on in 2012 instead of losing him for free the next year.

    :(

    I think sadly its very likely because he’ll be 31 years old by next June.
    Anyone else agree?

  160. sachu says:

    @clint iam your pappi
    if he has a good season we might extend it further

  161. smartalex says:

    Mikekelly12 0- Hello buddy! I’m not sure that your 16:51 reply should have been addressed to me. I haven’t mentioned transfers on this thread.

  162. Clint-iamyourpapii says:

    sachu

    What kind of doctor are you?

    GP
    gynaecology
    paediatrics
    psychiatry
    radiology
    surgery

    :lol:

  163. smartalex says:

    Dolittle.

  164. willierednut says:

    Doctor doctor, give me the news…

  165. Costas says:

    At least we all agree that a Johnny come lately shouldn’t earn more than anyone else at United in his first season. We are not Man City ffs.

    My stace since early summer has been that Sneijder, Nasri, Modric or Sanchez won’t be joining us. These deals have become very complicated nowdays.

  166. willierednut says:

    They’re still on Costas. Mums the word, so don’t tell anyone. ;)

  167. smartalex says:

    Mama mia!

  168. parryheid says:

    Mike kelly 12.

    Told you the offer was made prior to Arsene saying on 1st June he would not sell Nasri to United and as far as I am aware he has yet to be put on the transfer list as his board were backing his stance he would persuade Nasri to stay,seems he has not yet admitted defeat.May be thinking Cesc going will convince him he get’s to play his position it’s still On.

  169. Costas says:

    Lol, these things are like the Terminator willie. They are never really dead. When you look back at Ronaldo’s transfer to Real, that lasted 2 years. :lol: I just don’t see any of them happening this summer.

  170. Mikekelly12 says:

    Parryheid – right mate, got ya. It’s possible he may stay with Cesc moving on, but realistically I reckon it’s the cash not the prestige he’s in for and Arse can’t give him that.
    Smartalex – sorry pal, your right, it was Willy I was replying to. For some reason I always seem to mix you two up?!

    Willie. – my 16.51 post.

  171. willierednut says:

    mikekelly12 – No bother mate. I’ll change my name SmartRedNut. :)

  172. CedarsDevil says:

    :shock:

  173. FletchTHEMAN says:

    No props for LeArse, but Barca have been absolutely shocking in the Cesc transfer. Have to laugh at Barca for being pathetic as well.

  174. FletchTHEMAN says:

    On skysports: Arsen wenger seems to have completely lost the plot. The professor has morphed into
    the mad professor! OMG. Says noone is leaving. So proud of us for getting so much transfer business out of the way early. Sense of pride and rightly so.

  175. smartalex says:

    I could change to RedWheeledAxleNut, or Waxlemart, if you prefer!

  176. fergie is the boss says:

    YorYor – oh yes it would be fantastic to shut many up, bringing through pogba morrison cleverly in the next few years, and saving the club a fortune. It could happen, the latter is ready the first 2 are a year to soon. Season’s 2012/13 they will be ready, but for now its tom’s turn. Like I say 1 or 2 players a season break through into the first team, this summer its one

  177. Balaji Sivaraman says:

    I want Costas to change his name to Fergie’sLeftTesticle. :lol:

  178. Gag says:

    F**k me, in Stoke we like to wind people up, apparently in mankchester you like to bite! Grow up, chill out, stop taking yourselves so seriously.

  179. smartalex says:

    Gag

    Wear your name.

  180. willierednut says:

    You’ve got me gagging!

  181. smartalex says:

    Gaggling Goosestepper – march right out of here, birdbrain.

  182. Manuminati says:

    cant we get Shawcross back

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