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VIEW FROM THE ENEMY: Sunderland fan on O’Shea, the poznan and McClean

As the final whistle was blown on our 1-0 victory over Sunderland on the final day of the season, we were top of the league, waiting for the game at the Etihad to end. News came through at the Stadium of Light that City had scored two late goals and had won the league, leading Sunderland fans to do their best poznan celebration. “When the final whistle went, we didn’t really know what the score at City was,” said Rooney. “But then we heard the Sunderland fans cheering. It was sad to see that because they should be supporting their own team really. They didn’t have the best of seasons so for them to be cheering like that was sad. It was something myself and a lot of the players won’t forget.” United usually do pretty well against Sunderland anyway but I’m sure our players have all the motivation they need to stuff them this season now.

Colin Randall, from the excellent blog Salut Sunderland, has looked ahead to this season.

Scott the Red: What would have to happen this season for you to class this as a successful one?

Colin Randall: We would have to make a significant improvement on last season’s 13th top finish, which was also seventh bottom.

STR: How do you feel about your club’s business in the transfer window this summer?

CR: Utterly frustrating. Carlos Cuellar is the sum total of inward movement so far. He may turn out to be a great acquisition but people were frankly hoping for rather more. I realise the deadline is end of the month but the need – especially at full back, where we’re rumoured to be on the point of signing Stephen Ward from, er, Wolves, and up front – is rather more urgent.

STR: Who do you think will be your most important player this season?

CR: Stephane Sessegnon, our most gifted player by a long way, provided we can obstruct his agent’s apparently feverish attempts to get him on the move. We’ve known this was a possibility for some time and can only hope Marton O’Neill is winning he battle to persuade him to stay. If he goes, a lot will depend on how well James McClean performs after his bright start.

STR: How do you rate your manager’s ability to take your club forward?

CR: He has the same problem that afflicts all managers of Sunderland: the difficulty in convincing good players to go to the North East and stay there. I do not doubt his abilities, however, and if he can’t do it, I am not sure who, available to us, could.

STR: Who do you think will win the league this season?

CR: Heart would say Manchester United or Arsenal, since Sunderland can safely be ruled out, but head says City.

STR: After all the players and managers we’ve given you, the poznan on the last day of the season wasn’t very nice, was it?

CR: It was a spot of entirely harmless fun. The same porportion of United fans would have gloated had the game been one to send us down. One of our guys argued it quite well.

STR: Which ex-red that you currently have is your favourite?

John O’Shea when fit and not playing at full back, though Bardsley’s effort makes up a lot for the lack of class.

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200 Comments

  1. tomDAbomb says:

    FIRST DROPPING BOMBSS

  2. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Rumors that Saha is in talks with Sunderland as he is a free agent. That would add to the ex-Reds up there.

    Quote from Roo says it all. Sorry John O’Shea, who I love, but hope we stuff them home and away.

  3. FRO-NAM says:

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM! The bombs keep dropping lol

  4. CedarsDevil says:

    Nothing but respect for Sunderland aka Stealth United, had some great memories at the old Roker Park….Bloody Gordies are mad as fuck!

  5. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Cedars, Cheers mate. Shall we keep the Stealth United thing going another year then. Fine with me. ;)

  6. CedarsDevil says:

    Fletchy Baby

    Indeed we should, if my memory is still in check it was you that came up with that name! Epic

  7. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Sunderland – United B

    Bardsley
    Brown
    Richardson
    O’Shea

    Maybe Louis Saha on the way?

  8. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Update: Sunderland sign Saha.

    Scott Wilson ‏@Scottwilsonecho
    #SAFC confirm signing of Louis Saha on a one-year deal. Joins fellow free agent Carlos Cuellar on the completed transfer front.

  9. CedarsDevil says:

    Not forgetting Brucey, as a manager he has never beaten United! And some folk speak of conspiracies!! ha ha

  10. salutsunderland says:

    You hardly need such a babyish incentive to beat us as you do so more or less at will anyway. We tend to regard even a draw as something of an achievement. End of season frolics, banter, call it what you will but I can tell you that from where we stand (sorry, sit), not quite winning yet another trophy seems at worst a surface wound requiring no stitches or plaster.

    I actually wanted United to win the league, and usually do from the available choices despite a little soft spot for Arsenal because I respect Wenger, for all his selective vision, and the way he wants his teams to play. This was last-game banter and no more, as I suggested to Scott the Red, than we would have endured from your lot had the result sent us down.

  11. kanchelskis says:

    @salut

    Had you gone down and we – or anyone – had rubbed it in like that, you wouldn’t receive it as ‘banter’ would you?

  12. CedarsDevil says:

    salutsunderland

    As I already said mate, nothing but full respect. United seem to have a great connection with your club, Keane? The man who brought you up and many many more.

    Roker Park was one of my personal favourite away grounds……..As for the games, course we will always beat you mate. Makes for a sweet 6 points each season!

  13. 911_DEVIL says:

    @salutsunderland :P

  14. 911_DEVIL says:

    Had we kept O’shea he would still do a job
    He’s such an incredibly professional
    He’s a top bloke

  15. Ash says:

    Ok commenting first time after we signed Van persie. I read mnay comments in other thread and shocked some are against this move.
    What is the problem if he is 29? I don’t believe in resale value shit. Real madrid signed Zidane and Figo late in their career. Barca signed Theiry henry at 29 and he helped them win the Champions League.
    With the coming of rvp we have a good chance of winning the Champions League.

  16. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Salut, What you make of signing Saha? Bit injury prone, but can sure find the net when fit.

    Looks like your back 4 is 100% United bred.
    Now for the front line then!?? Cheers ;)

  17. salutsunderland says:

    FletchTheMan: if people join us from or have spent time in the past at United, you can generally expect quality. That’s not sucking up, just self-evident. Saha in isolation, as he is so far save for the Cuellar acquisition, is not enough given his age and injury record. If MON does bring in a couple of quality signings – he has left it late and the need up front remains acute – I’ll see Saha as good business. Now we have no Bent, Gyan, Welbeck or even Bendtner our strikepower is, well, no power at all. Ji, Wickham and Campbell got, i think, all of four goals between them last season.

  18. gaz says:

    @cedars

    Ya old bollocks, you must be happier then a fucking cock in a fanny with the news on RVP! I know i am cant wait for Monday night!

  19. CedarsDevil says:

    Ash

    Spot ON. Any one doubting the signing of RvP needs a head exam and fast…….One of the best finishers in world football. I love Berba with a passion but RvP is a totally different type of player, he is direct and has a shot on him that can tear down a fucking building

  20. CedarsDevil says:

    gaz

    You funny fuck! You have no idea how excited I am at the mere thought of seeing RvP in United’s RED

    By the way, we need us one of your trade mark Terry rants……..I have missed them. Albeit, any rant from you will do

  21. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Salute, Spot on, we seem to leave it late as well. Imagine it is to lower the price but not sure it ever really works like that for us. Some on here still expecting Leighton Baines and a certain mythical midfielder.
    Won’t hold my breath TBH.

    Good luck to your lot v the rest of the league. See you on Dec 15 at the OT.

  22. CedarsDevil says:

    Watching a documentary on Messi on the telly……..Fucking hell, what a player

  23. gaz says:

    @cedars

    long season ahead mate, dont you worry lesbian haired warrior Princess John King of the cunts Terry will get fucking plenty, i cant fucking wait!!

  24. CedarsDevil says:

    gaz

    Actually that was good enough for now!

  25. CedarsDevil says:

    Anyone who thinks that Ronaldo is a better footballer than Messi also need a head check……Bloody hell, the wee man is from another planet

  26. Kungfoocantona says:

    In florida at the min been here for a week and only just checked the sports yesterday…and over the moon i was even the yank looked at me when i did the old fashioned fist pump to a computer screen. The thought of a top 4 like we have now plus kagawa gives me so much confidence next season, really happy with the tranfer market this year and to b honest if we wernt to sign any1 else it wouldnt bother me especially now fletch is back..think the moura deal collapsing(wasnt bothered) probobly pushed fergie into gettin it wrapped up…all i would say is do u think fergie will go for modric at the last day if hes still available!!!! Its possible

  27. Robbo says:

    Wakey

    Any more news on how the IPO shares are faring. Saw an earlier post from you suggesting they were down after the RVP news. Why would that be so?

  28. Cantona got me here says:

    Cedars,

    No kidding on Messi, more I watch him, more I love him. I hate Barca, but so much respect for Messi he never goes down, always trying to stay up even with all the knocks. At least from what I see.

  29. Kungfoocantona says:

    Forget the modric thing just read hes off to the virus…he was to ugly for united anyway

  30. Diego says:

    SAF seems to think Ronnie is a better player than Messi.

  31. CedarsDevil says:

    Cantona got me here

    So true, the lad never gets injured, he is a freak of nature…….Has a lot about him that reminds me of Best………..Mind you, Best was miles better

  32. The One says:

    FletchTHEMAN,

    Sunderland – United B

    Bardsley
    Brown
    Richardson
    O’Shea

    Maybe Louis Saha on the way?

    You forgot Cambell

  33. WeAreRed says:

    Hey Fellow Reds, long time reader but first time posting here.. Massive fan from Australia, just want to express my excitement at the RvP signing! Although he’s a luxury signing, there’s no doubting his talent and will only improve our team (hoping his ankle behaves).. I’m still hoping for a LB/CDM signing, but even then the team is looking really good! Roll on Monday night!!!

  34. FletchTHEMAN says:

    @The One Fraizer Campbell!! Good spot that!

    Campbell to Saha for the score. Unite made! :lol:

    Love the players, it’s the nutter fans that give me pause. Still see airplanes in the stands at Sunderland and they still sing some of the worst songs.

  35. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Heskey>Messi>Ronnie 8)

  36. Robbo says:

    Kanchelskis

    Cheers mate.

  37. Rai says:

    Willie – Bebe will be up there in a few years

  38. 911_DEVIL says:

    A better one
    Vs a more complete one
    Imo still think ronnie is ahead of the little argentinian
    He’s the most complete footballer I’ve come to know, better all round player
    And can play anywhere and still maintain high standard play
    Messi has the edge to his style of play, barca seems to suit him more

    I don’t know if he can do what he does on a cold night in reebok stadium ;) !

  39. 911_DEVIL says:

    Rai sure he’ll
    He’s decision making has improved already
    He’s more dangerous and unstoppable on his day
    Only need to work on his first touch, crossing and shooting…
    Must learn to time his positioning and tricks

  40. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Rai – Long time pal? Hope you and your family are doing well. Bebe is a touchy subject round these parts! :)

  41. ryan7 says:

    Apologies if this has been posted already, but very good and settling news regarding Chicharito from manutd.com…

    “Javier Hernandez’s agent Eduardo Hernandez has dismissed talk that the striker could leave Old Trafford in the wake of Robin van Persie’s likely arrival. “This is pure press speculation,” he told El Universal. “The addition of van Persie is to reinforce the attack. There will be increased competition in that position but Javier is a professional and knows he will have to face that situation.” Eduardo Hernandez added that the club have not requested he looks elsewhere. “There is a contract that Javier seeks to fulfill,” he added. “The people of Manchester are honorable and have not told us otherwise.” The boss has also explained to ManUtd.com that he wants Chicharito to be one of four top-class striker options.”

  42. Ash says:

    There should be no reason why Hernandez or danny should leave the club. Danny and hernandez will get enough chances. THey should relish this opportunity and take this as challenge. As far as Kiko goes I think he will be sent to loan. Give him one year of proper football and then we shall judge him.

  43. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    No contest Ronaldo a better footballer (Individual) than Messi.

    I won’t argue why, im sick of this debate.

    Fuck off you Messi wankers.

    Ronaldo’s better !

  44. Stingy says:

    Willie
    I concur when it comes to Bebe,the least said the better

  45. Stingy says:

    Sunderland fans who mimicked the Poznan in bliss to celebrate $hitty winning the title did themselves no favours.The gaffer is on record saying “we will remember that forever”I’m sure it will be a catalyst to spur the lads on to even achieve greater heights.

  46. jeet says:

    Five little sachus, jumping on the blog…

  47. Ash says:

    I JUST looked at our fixtures and I think we need four strikers. If we go through to the semis in europe and are competing in F.A cup then we need a big squad. RVP could be our key to Champions League along with Kagawa , Cleverley and Vidic. You can always include Rooney to that.

  48. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    what the hell is a sachus, there used to be a sachu posting here a year back

    Anyone know if vPersies passed his medical. Theres supposed to be a huge bunch of sad bastards outside the hospital trying to get a glimpse, has he gone in? whats going on. With an ankle like his he’s not signed untill our doctor says alls ok there. The personal deal must be close or pretty much finalised anyway or otherwise non of this would have got this far especially as it was rumoured he wanted equal or more than Rooney. ANy news on that side of things?.

  49. Stingy says:

    Thank you Geordies for giving Shitty a run for their money last season.More of the same please as we start our campaign to wrestle back the title to its rightful place

  50. Eric keane says:

    DDG
    Rafael vidic rio evra
    Valencia carrick cleverly nani
    Kagawa
    Rooney

    Rvp to come on second half,

  51. 3 lions says:

    messi is far better than ronnie imo. and he has a much more admirable attitude. i hated ronaldo even when he was banging in goals for us as i could tell what a petulant little prick he was.so glad he aint at this great club anymore

  52. Stingy says:

    goatinaunitedshirt says
    The personal deal must be close or pretty much finalised anyway or otherwise non of this would have got this far especially as it was rumoured he wanted equal or more than Rooney. ANy news on that side of things?.

    The only news worth of note is that it was just a rumour,so treat it with the contemt that it deserves.

  53. Rai says:

    Willie – I’m all good mate how are you? I’m liking the new username!! Didn’t know Bebe was a touchy subject…in my opinion he’s got all the attributes to be as good and effective as David Bellion :)

  54. fergie is the boss says:

    Clint-Iamyourpapii – sorry but that is a ridiculous statement to make, ronaldo a a better footballer, the goals messi can score is a pure natural footballer, any player that can go through 6 or 7 players with ball to feet is the complete footballer. Messi is on another planet to ronaldo as on overall player. For a player who does not score many pens and free kick, and as raised the bar on the goalscoring front, he is a phenom.

  55. Stingy says:

    Ronaldo is good but Messi is better IMO.Ronnie’s grandstanding,attitude(sulks) and petulance tell you all you need to know about why the majority prefer the midget.
    I know i might get stick for this but i will say loudly what everyone thinks silently-His quips and blowing his own trumpet like saying he is rich dont endear him to many.I know he will never lose sleep thinking of how he comes across but a little humility goes a long way
    In doubt???Ask Shinji.

  56. Fred says:

    LOL Rai, comments like that will land you in hot water with the Bebe police.

  57. Fred says:

    Papii – imho Messi is the better player, but Ronaldo is the better lover.

  58. 3 lions says:

    fitb
    i truely believe that we could be watching the best footballer to grace this planet in messi, and the lad handles all the fuss like a true modest gentleman. ronaldo on other hand is an unbelievable player but i feel that he doesnt even deserve the credit as he is such an egotistcal bum gimp

  59. salutsunderland says:

    FletchTHEMAN says:

    “Love the players, it’s the nutter fans that give me pause. Still see airplanes in the stands at Sunderland and they still sing some of the worst songs ”

    I am contemptuous of any ‘fan’ who descends to Munich taunts, whoever they purport to support. Toerags. Same goes for racism, heard from individuals not collectively and then v rarely, but I could not say never. Our lot sing good or witty songs and chants and some of them sing stupid or purely negative ones ‘Stand Up if you hate ——’ always seems especially mindless to me. So ours are pretty much like the supporters of most clubs in my experience.

  60. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    My team for Everton and the next game:

    ——–Lindegaard
    Rafael Rio Vidic Evra
    - Carrick — Scholes —
    ——— Clevs
    Nani – - – - – - Kagawa
    ———- RVP

    Why the fuck do we only have 7 established defenders? Baines Is a Must !

    :P

  61. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Rai – I’m good mate. Bellion? I really thought he was the next Henry! :D

  62. Clint-Iamyourpapii says:

    What did I say?

    Its not up for debate, what i says goes.

    Ronaldo is No.1.

    Fuck You :lol:

  63. Costas says:

    I kind of doubt they would have gloated so much if it was City that lost the title at their own ground last May.

    That’s gratitude after getting Wes and JOS for peanuts.

  64. Atin says:

    A hearty salute to Salut for actually taking the time out and continuing the interview with a discussion with regulars on this blog. Don’t think any of the other “Enemy” bloggers have done that. Cheers mate. Best of luck for the season against all teams barring Utd for obvious reasons :P

    Eric – Long time no see. Think you’ve pretty much nailed the first XI for the Everton game. Additionally, imo anderson and scholes will come on in the second half for Carrick/ Cleverley though Young might also feature for Nani on the left side later on in case we need to settle the game and Paddy continues with last season’s form.

  65. Fred says:

    3 lions – Ronaldo doesn’t deserve credit? That’s nice. Shall we discredit those three league titles and European Cup he had a very large hand in us winning too? Do me a favour!

  66. samuel - united WE stand says:

    Messi = mecurial master dribbler, efficient clinical finisher. Clever and always step ahead but his game hangs on playing with quality central midfielders. Don’t supply enough and he could be anonymous but more often than not, steps up to the plate. World’s best player but the barcelona fluid system is crucial to him succeeding.

    Ronaldo = pure machine. Found in portugal but has been into a titan gladiator in the premier league. Always possessed great technique and talent but he’s now built into a powerhouse. He doesn’t rely on his midfielders as much as a messi. More of an all round player. Depends on what people prefer, no big margin of quality between the two but based on pure efficiency and constant impact on games and as brilliant Ronaldo can be, the little argentine shades it. Both learnt their trade off the streets of their respective countries, they play with joy and imagination that only rare players could.

    Personally, i still prefer ronaldinho. One of the most gifted player i’ve ever seen. He done things that both players aren’t really capable of, I’d class him alongside zidane and ronaldo (brazil).

  67. Fred says:

    Salut the true Mackem – Your mature, level-headed attitude makes a refreshing change from the usual bile we hear from opposition fans. You are welcome on here anytime pal.

  68. james21 says:

    Sunderland fans doing the Posnan didn’t and doesn’t really bother me.
    Its banter, we can give it out so must take it on the chin.

    Cedars
    Geordies? Don’t call them that in Sunderland you might get lynched. :D

  69. 3 lions says:

    fred
    i meant he doesnt deserve credit as being the best player on the planet. ill never forget what he did for us but to me that dont matter. it was manchester united that won the trophies in my eyes, not cristiano ronaldo!! do me a favour!!! :P

  70. Fred says:

    3 Lions – do me a favour mate, we’d have won bugger all without Super Ron!

  71. Rai says:

    Fred/Wille I’ve been off here for a while not familiar with the Bebe police :) The only comparison to be made with him and Henry is that when they were young they were both French and shite. I’m afraid Bebe is just expensive shite.

  72. Sara says:

    Sunderland r cunts imo

  73. 3 lions says:

    yes no probs what favour would u like? listen my point is i dont like him i dont get why that is so hard for u to understand as u are not me.im sure that u have an opinion on things yourself!

  74. Sara says:

    James
    i concur-its highly offennsive there apparently

  75. Atin says:

    Rai – sadly Bebe was never french ;)

  76. Sara says:

    Bebe will come good.Too many people criticise him but only God knows.

  77. 3 lions says:

    samuel
    well said man u nailed it there. also ronaldinho was an absolute joy to watch,what a player! shame he wasnt more focused on being a true pro like our wee scholesy cause he could have been untouchable

  78. jeet says:

    Puke

  79. 3 lions says:

    i believe bebe will come good too

  80. Fred says:

    3 lions – I understand you perfectly pal, don’t get so worked up! I do indeed have an opinion mate and it’s that Ronaldo is pure class and I love the guy! Hope this isn’t hard for you to understand! :lol:

    http://uefalive.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/gd736251840champions-league-fina-2235.jpg

  81. Rai says:

    Atin – I was talking about the comparison between Bellion and Henry!

  82. 50 Shades of WillieRedNut says:

    Any updates on Red Van Cedars medical?

  83. Sara says:

    Would love to see me Bebe run rings aaround Bramble.pissing me self here

  84. Sara says:

    Willie
    the cat is in the bag

  85. 3 lions says:

    fred
    fair do’s mate we all have our own hearts. the man is a beast dont get me wrong but im an old romantic and ronaldo to me is the very epitimy of what is wrong wit modern day footballers(attitude i mean). not to say he doesnt have a great mentality because he does and is a world beater, but this mentality is only for him to succeed,not his team mates/club.absolute beast of a man tho

  86. 3 lions says:

    loving the pic btw fred :)

  87. Zino says:

    The RvP deal seems to be taking an eternity to ‘complete’! No news as to the completion of the medical, personal terms and what have you. RvP just hold the bloody jersey and smile for the cameras!!!! Maybe the excitement is making me lose my mind….

  88. fergie is the boss says:

    samuel – united WE stand – yes but ronaldinho also relied on the brilliance of the barca midfield, for me barca relies heavily on messi to add that cutting edge. You look at the firepower of barca, what is it? messi, he scores 70% of their goals, sanchez is still learning, villa is injured, cesc while a brilliant midfielder, he is a more creative midfielder, they rely on xavi iniesta and cesc to create for them, and they rely heavily on messi to score most of their goals. I do not rate their defence and GK, love their midfield, but they are horribly short upfront, a great team beyond their first 15 players, but a weak squad

  89. Sara says:

    Zino
    Trust me its all hunky dory with RvP.Im sure Dazbomber can attest to this.

  90. wayne says:

    Is being a bum gimp a bad thing,is a bum gimp being attracted to a great ass or are you suggesting Ronnie is gay,the lad only dates super models

  91. Sara says:

    Oi lay off this debate .of ronnie and messiah.Messi is natural talent(God given)if u like,but ronnie was trained by Bolt.

  92. 3 lions says:

    male super models aye

  93. Sandeep1878 says:

    Evening reds around the world.

    mancini: I sign players from Arsenal.

    Sir Alex: Bitch please, i signed Arsenal

    :lol:

  94. 3 lions says:

    i wonder did bolt really help him that much or is he just blowing his own trumpet?

  95. Sara says:

    Sandeep
    epic.give us some chants pal

  96. ididnotzeeit says:

    Carlos Cueller is a tidy piece of business for Sunderland imo. He gets on with his job, capable defender and get bang a goal or two in from time to time. In honor of fantasy football season fast approaching, he was a stud in my squad 2 years ago at Villa in a back line with Dunne and Collins 8)

    Ronaldo vs Messi? I look at it from a different stand point. If I’m a manager of some lowly shyte team and I’m able to pick one or the other, I think it is much easier to build a team around Ronaldo. Simply put, get the ball to Ronaldo. He is so physically imposing. Yes, granted, a lot of Ronaldo’s goal tally is free kicks and penalties. Yes, and? Don’t you need someone to look to when trying to take advantage of opportunities? He’s clinical in both. Add on the fact he can score from open play, with out much help required and you have a footballer you can build around for a generation. Messi is Barca for life and understandably so, I just think it’s hard to go apples to apples when Ronaldo’s been fucking dynamite everywhere he’s been. Take Messi out of Barca and let’s see how the numbers stack up, there’s no right answer, but my money’s on Ronaldo.

  97. Atin says:

    Rai – yikesey! :D

  98. Atin says:

    sandy – plagiarism from fb pal? :lol:

  99. Sara says:

    3 Lions
    Thats blasphemy mate.Ronnoe owes it all to Bolt and Phelan.go find

  100. TheCANTONA says:

    @Salut
    Fergie doesnt hate ur club he just use ur “fans banter” as extra motivation to his players….

  101. ididnotzeeit says:

    And if I’m not mistaken, Salutsunderland took a wide open shot at Wenger’s shoddy vision, get stuck in mate!!!!

  102. Sara says:

    Be right back lads.Keep it red keep it United.
    One love.

  103. 3 lions says:

    blasphemy?? i was asking u a question, not makin a statement!!!!!

  104. samuel - united WE stand says:

    henry was always a talent that juve never used enough, wenger took the gamble and benefited. He was never shite at any point, another deluded fan that thinks great football is only played in the premier league.

  105. MG says:

    The theory doing the rounds within the world wide web is that if Cedars starts to adopt more players as his children for arguments sake Messi then the inevitable will happen like RVC

    :lol:

  106. james21 says:

    MG
    Lets hope he doesn’t adopt Carroll or Downing then. :D

  107. samuel - united WE stand says:

    F.i.t.b – From my point of view, ronaldinho never relied heavily on midfielders. Barca didn’t possess as great a midfield as they do now when the brazilian played. He had individual brilliance and dragged barca to title. Unlike messi, ronaldinho also turned up for brazil and won a world cup.

    He scores 70% of the goals because the team is built mainly to get the very best out of him. He doesn’t really do much defensive work, his primary job is to cause havoc to other teams. Barca haven’t had a big squad because the league is probably not as physically demanding as the premier league plus their first team is superior enough and does enough damage that the squad probably isn’t needed. They also benefit from the fact all their main players accumulate games regularly, they blend well and understand each other.

    They have weaknesses but no one is currently capable of going toe to toe with them. We as manchester united have a lot of work to do, let’s not delude ourselves. We’re on the right track.

  108. Sandeep1878 says:

    Atin,

    Bingo,

    when it comes to LOL and TROLL, nothing can beat FB :lol:

    ###

    MG,

    Evening mate,

    Dazbomber was telling me we are scouting Neymar ;)

    ###

    Time for chants eh?

    Fuck off you trolls,

    fuck off you WUMs,

    fuck off you ID thieves,

    :P

  109. 3 lions says:

    samuel
    couldnt agree more mate well said

  110. slim says:

    Just reading through and had to chime in about the mini Ronnie vs messi debate.

    The word “cunt” is thrown around easily these days in football but Ronaldo truly is a cunt. Messi tops the Portuguese in almost every department.
    Fuck can’t tell you how much I cringe watching Ronnie watching himself when playing. I swear I’m positive he’s got one of the huge stadium displays in his bedroom. I bet he reckons he’s bad ass when he’s up to shenanigans in the bedroom but probably needs the screen just to be extra extra sure. First time I agreed with 3 lions. Chuffed to bits he’s with the virus.don’t have to deal with his Shit.
    Missed his fk’s though. I’ll say that much.
    Upside is he skies them at Madrid these days so I guess its not so bad

  111. 911_DEVIL says:

    Ha, evening
    So you think messi is coming? :P
    Hopefully
    I would prefer neymar to the little argentinian

  112. MG says:

    James

    I thought Cedars only did the finest luxury ;)

    Sandeep

    The more the strikers the merrier after all we signed one the day before Robin Van Cedars

    :lol:

  113. 911_DEVIL says:

    Messi is a step behind
    Ronnie
    Enough said

  114. slim says:

    Samuel
    Spot on about ronaldinho. That guy was truly gifted and he had some amazing years doing magical things on a consistent basis top players today struggle to do 2 matches back to back. Top top player and a personal favorite of mine. And to think he could have graced OT. That would have been amazing

  115. TonyBee says:

    News flash
    ————————————
    The London apartment of Robin Van Persie had been set on fire…..,

    Police suspect Arsene
    ——————————————

    Joke told to me by Maxi’s Dad, another true red

  116. Zibbie says:

    MG hello dude. Great happenings with the script!!!
    19

  117. Sandeep1878 says:

    For the first, it looks like our club’s official website is crashed :D

  118. keano99 says:

    Any pics of rvp going for his medical?

  119. Zibbie says:

    1878 hello mate!

  120. Wakey says:

    @Robbo

    Down to $13.58. As for why a signing would hit the price it’s because it reduces the cash in the bank and replaces it with an asset that depreciates in value. If £24m was sent on infrastructure rather than players it would most likely cause the share price to rise but players will almost always cause a hit to the share price.

  121. Zibbie says:

    Hey I was thinking, this SAF guy is pretty good at what he does.
    A reverse tree!

    —————-DDG————

    ————-Vida—————

    ——–Rafa—-Jones——-

    Tony V–Kagawa—-Clevs–

    Nani–RvP–Rooney–Welbeck

  122. slim says:

    Samuel

    Spot on again re your comment at 19.05
    People seem to forget he was in the thick of things with Edgar Davids. Definitely didn’t have it easy those years ago. Those two and a bunch of other-can’t remember now, were the foundation of what you hot now. Fantastic player. Shame he lost the love/dedication for the game when he did. A truly magnificent footballer

  123. Zibbie says:

    Everton

    ————–DDG———-

    Tony V- Rio–Vida–Evra

    Nani–Carrick–Scholes–Young

    ——————-Rooney—-

    ————RVP—————–

  124. Rai says:

    Samuel – I was only having a laugh no need to start with the whole “deluded” fan BS it’s a bit much. I watched Seria A when the League was buzzing with talent and Henry wasn’t an overriding success.

    Slim – Bit harsh calling Ronnie a cunt. He’s not home grown and he gave us more than just a couple of memories, he left and deep down we all knew one day he would be playing for Madrid…..I can’t think of a player in the last 20 years who scored a more variation of spectacular goals than Ronnie. Sure he was annoying, I remember watching him live and lost count the amount of times after he would assist someone, he’d wait for people to come to congratulate him rather than him congratulating the goal scorer!!!! That used to piss me off, but he’s no cunt. Rooney on the other hand….

  125. MG says:

    Thanks Zibbie

    I’m hoping for some serious movie muscle flexing over the coming few years

    Hopefully with health all intact

    19

  126. Zibbie says:

    CR7 vs Messi

    Talent VS Effective

    Ronnie, all tool player, both feet, heads the ball with power, fast, quick, beat people on the dribble, set shot great. Everything as good as it gets.

    Messi, best left foot since, My Left Foot. Dribble master. Ball is attached some how to him. Strong great team player.

    On Paper Ronnie, on the field Messi.

  127. Zibbie says:

    I’m sure you will let us know when you can, I buy 10 tickets.

  128. 3 lions says:

    gotta agree wit slim the guys a cunt lol. tremendous player all the same but hes no dion dublin!

  129. 3 lions says:

    zibbie
    best left foot since my left foot! absolutely busted my ribs that one mate haha christy brown

  130. Rai says:

    If he was such a “cunt” SAF wouldn’t waste his time still speaking to him. Terry = Cunt, Cashley = cunt, Ronnie is NO CUNT.

  131. Zibbie says:

    19 I have you in my thoughts and prayers mate. U, Alexanderofknowledge , Willie, Cedars and Costas. My cyber mates who helped me through a health hell, 1st staff infection 23 days in hospital, most come out in black bags how bad I had it, get home. A med makes a rash break out so sever, heath professionals gasped, just as they did at the orange size boil thing on my upper inner thigh, the rash left scars that took a year to clear. Then 2 infected teeth got pulled after 8 days back home. Then my back went out. No eye worries but a run of shit like you are on. :mrgreen: RoM loves you and so do I :cool:

  132. 3 lions says:

    aw right didnt know u and saf were so close lol

  133. Eric keane says:

    Ronaldo has a huge ego.. He aint a cunt..
    For me,
    Ronaldo> messi !

  134. wayne says:

    How demented does someone have to be having 5 user names and holding conversations between each one
    What mental illness does that get filed under

  135. Zibbie says:

    Ronnie 1st to practice, last to leave. Hit 1000′s extra free kick balls. He worked hard. Loves the Gaffer. he is underwear model good looking.

  136. 3 lions says:

    zibbie
    sounds like tough times mate hope alls well now with ya and likewise to mg

  137. xol says:

    More reaction regarding Arsenal losing another player to Manchester http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVInmT3WZOk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  138. Zibbie says:

    Waye, scary

    The dog at the fucking back door is so true. A female one as well. Wounder if they fuck?

  139. Zibbie says:

    3lions 20 months ago, better thanks, not to much of a whiner, just reeling letting MG I get his pain in a way. His writing skills put me so far into the stories, I’m background furniture. His talent has been honed. Worked at, my I say perfected. And on top of this Mr. Sneer, Cyril Sneer took his rants here and made a funny as hell blog.
    19 the mentor, just a real good dude. He and others helped me through that tough time. It was 6 weeks to get back to work for me then and only part time for 2 months after that. So it was a big old thanks in my way to 19!

  140. 3 lions says:

    im glad to hear that mate.its great that there are fellow reds on this blog that care about more than just footy. ive been watchin over this blog for a while now and i gotta say i love the compassion and loyalty i see on here at times for fellow reds. lots of funny mofo’s on here too

  141. Rai says:

    3 lions – Yes mate we’re fuckin tight as a ducks arse you pleb

  142. slim says:

    Bollox. I say he was a cunt :-)
    I never took to him and stand by it.
    Big ego not a cunt. Please.
    A lot of posters on here will probably agree Mourinho is a bit of a pompous prick. Gaffers still talks to him. Are we to believe he isn’t because the gaffer still talks to him?
    Let me just add this. My opinion of him isn’t stemmed from the fact he left United for Madrid. Was relieved at the time and ecstatic at the 80million big ones we got. I just can’t stand his behavior at times.
    Similar to the scholes Gerrard saying. You can become a Ronnie by working hard but you have to be born a Leo messi

    Rai
    I hold my hands up and admit I lay into him whenever I get the chance. Just the way I feel about him. Ha, I take it you’re having a laugh with the Rooney comment. Whisper he’s a ….
    Seriously though his abilities are fantastic but the best or better than the Argentine? No fucking chance

  143. Sandeep1878 says:

    Hello Zibster,

    how’s fishing?

    by the way, i m laughing my ass out on your first formation :lol: :P

  144. wayne says:

    Zibbie lol Anthony Perkins with a blow up doll

  145. 3 lions says:

    pleb??? what does that mean?

  146. Utd4life says:

    RVP’s medical seems to be taking an eternity.

  147. Devil310 says:

    Zibbie – how are you mate?

    I liked your formation, but I think it has a few flaws.
    You forget Vida is back, so to be honest, he alone can cover the back four.

    This is what we should go out with:

    ————————-DDG———————-

    ————————–Vida—————————

    ——–————————————————

    Tony––Kagawa—Rooney—Nani–—Young

    Berba–—RvP–—-Chicharito—––Welbeck

    Who needs a midfield?

    :D

  148. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Ronaldo is a cunt but that’s why he is the best player in the world. Give me Ronnie over Messi every day of the week.

  149. CedarsDevil says:

    Sara aka 911 aka Reds galore aka God only knows what else

    Do you not realize that everyone on here has you figured out? I addressed ‘Sara’ this morning yet you replied to me as Reds galore.

    Not only are you a fucking freak but you are also daft as fuck. What an idiot

  150. Costas says:

    Believe him Cedars, he’s not Sachu. :lol:

    As for Ronaldo, STR summed it up best when he left. He was a tosser, but he was out tosser. ;)

    @Zibbie

    Diapers over porn pal? You have issues. :lol:

  151. CedarsDevil says:

    Seems I have stirred some shit here (As I usually do of course)

    Messi >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10 of your Ronaldo’s

    Any day of the week

  152. Rai says:

    Slim – They’re both freaks. I personally prefer watching Leo Messi play, it’s like someone’s taken him straight out of Pro Evo!! His attitude and general behaviour (no I don’t know him personally 3 Lions) comes across a lot more down to earth.

    With my comment about the gaffer, if he treated the club badly and left like a cunt, the gaffer wouldn’t have anything to do with him. He’s still well loved with a lot of fans, name still sung on away days etc. I PERSONALLY have more time for him than I do Rooney, who I think is a scouse mercenary…ready to be lynched :)

  153. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Gary glitter > Van Persie

  154. 3 lions says:

    pleb??

  155. Rai says:

    Cedars you are a shit stirrer look what you’ve started!!! :)

  156. CedarsDevil says:

    Further more, how can you take footballing advice from K standers? They only go to games to read books and have a relaxing day out…….

    RvP RvP RvP RvP RvP RvP RvP

    Stretty >>>>>>>>>>>Any stand that ever existed

  157. lordrt says:

    Has RvP changed his mind? :P
    was hoping to see a picture with him holding out the United shirt and SAF alongside, but so far nothing… Utd will give sunderland a hiding this time to make them pay for the mockery and take the goal difference which we missed last time to end above shitty directly from them ;)

  158. 3 lions says:

    saf said it mite drag out until the morning mate

  159. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    The mad schnapps drinking streaker has bit here we go…..

    United United United

  160. james21 says:

    Stretford end? Give me a break Prawn sandwiches all round.
    See the fake liar 911 aka sachu is still posting.

  161. CedarsDevil says:

    Rai

    Mate, I am no where near the level of folk like Willie and James here when it comes to stirring shit. Hence why we call them Spoon 1 and Spoon 2

  162. Dazbomber says:

    Have we signed any twat yet,⚽

  163. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    3 lions

    Who’s a pleb?

  164. CedarsDevil says:

    K stand my Lebanese ass……..You get thrown out for singing. folk are just there to relax and have a picnic

  165. 3 lions says:

    im asking rai what a pleb is because apparently i am one

  166. TonyBee says:

    What a load of fucking crap about CR7 being talked about on here tonight… He got talked into giving us an extra season by SAF and because he did and played his fucking heart out his price went up. Yes his petulance was distracting at times but fucking hell he was some fucking player when he turned it on. No one should have a bad word for him that follows UTD.. He did his best for us whilst he played for us

  167. 3 lions says:

    tony
    by that logic i suppose tevez is a sound guy too

  168. Cantona got me here says:

    CR7 will always have a special place in my heart and United lore…I’ll never forget those headers bursting into the box,etc… I for sure miss watching him play every week. And holy shit he did a lot for United.

  169. 3 lions says:

    actually scratch that. tevez and the word sound should never be put into one sentence

  170. Cantona got me here says:

    Tevez compared to CR7, WTF?

  171. james21 says:

    Pleb is a dick as far as I am aware. :D

    Giggs
    We arrive at Goodison about 7 mate. Will call you when we arrive.

    Ronaldo is a fantastic footballer and so is Messi. If Ronaldo is the 2nd best player in the world then I can say I saw the player 2nd only to Messi grace OT. Viva Ronaldo what a genius.

  172. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Cedars

    ” Giggs12 I love you, I would love to watch a game with you ”

    ” Giggs thats a great song thats why I love you ”

    ” that song was created by our very own giggs12″

    All recent quotes from my boy Cedars

    K stand barmy army k stand barmy army

  173. 3 lions says:

    oh well thats very charming from a fellow red

  174. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    So is vPersie official yet. Did he manage to work to the medical without his ankle buckling underneath him. Whats the deal been thrashed out with Gill how much is the mercenary getting?

  175. 3 lions says:

    mite not hear anythin till the morning goat according to saf

  176. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Mancini said to van persie
    Do you want to sign for man city
    No said Rob you fucking Nob
    I’m a Stretford ender

  177. CedarsDevil says:

    For those who know me here……..

    Maya Maya Maya Maya Maya Maya

    Saw my daughter today for just a few hours as my ex was in town. Not going to get into the emotional side of things but dear God she is mini me………At only 3 and a half, the room service lad at the hotel tried to carry her and she kicked him in the balls. Was funny as fuck….Bless her

    Maya Maya Maya Maya

  178. james21 says:

    Cedars is fucking magic
    He can not drink for shite.
    When he saw the Stretty
    He said Don’t fancy that.
    He didn’t go to North stand or South stand coz they’re quiet.
    He came to chant in K stand coz we’re fucking dynamite. UTD UTD UTD.

  179. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Goat

    Van persie 8 year deal 300k a week and we have give wellbeck and Hernandez as part of the deal.

    Van the man wants two jags a big house and a pool to sign ;-)

  180. CedarsDevil says:

    Giggs12

    Of course I love you, you soft fool. Do not get all emotional on my ass now

  181. Sandeep1878 says:

    Fuck your Messi and Ronaldo,

    Half of George Best and Bug Dunc>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maradona, Messi, pele and Ronaldo put together on a soft grass pitch..

    :) :lol:

    ##

    Good night reds..

  182. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    3 lions
    What is it NHS waiting times gone up, have to wait for a doctor to do the medical. ? Or was his agent still asking Gill for the same as Rooney.
    I just hope Sir Alex reads my posts on here and convince him to sign but next year and we throw the medical.

  183. goatinaunitedshirt says:

    Giggs12Gerrard0
    He can have my two jags and pool if he walks over my nice marble hallway covered in banana skins.

  184. Dazbomber says:

    Fuck me that Sky advert , Martin Tyler screening Agüero fucking it goes through me, horrible .

  185. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    Cedars you ball bag I was supplying evidence of your k stand love in not being emotional haha you have changed since we signed RvP

  186. CedarsDevil says:

    Jimmy James

    Do I need to tell you, Giggs12 and Mike what you can all do with the K stand? I do not like to be rude on here! ha ha

  187. CedarsDevil says:

    Giggs12

    Of course I have changed mate, I have gone totally bonkers…..

    New thread up by the way you fools……..Oh and yes, its about RvP

  188. Rai says:

    Cedars – Glad you got to see her mate!!

    TonyBee @ 20:58 great post

  189. james21 says:

    Cedars
    Now don’t become a liar like 911. We’ve sussed you already you closet K stander you. :P

  190. 911_DEVIL says:

    In less than 1 hour we gonna have an official announcement
    He (van persie) is in bridgewater hospital undergoing his medical as I write

  191. The team that wouldn't die says:

    TonyBee
    Ronaldo is in our hearts. I almost cried during the 30 minutes he played his first game. What a talent! Maybe a better player than George Best himself. BUT NEVER A LEGEND like Best, Cantona, Robson, Law etc. Simply because he wanted to go else where for his best years.
    Same goes for Rooney. His efforts have been the foundation of Uniteds trophies the last 4 years. But what he did… Hard to forget. Fantastic player though.
    A player you only like more and more for all the right reasons is Paul Scholes. Unique!

  192. fergie is the boss says:

    The team that wouldn’t die – your overrating ronaldo there, ronaldo is nowhere near best’s level, you can stop ronaldo, but you could not stop best at his complete best. If he was playing for united today, he would be united’s Lionel messi. It is the same as messi, when messi is in top form, he is unstoppable

  193. 3 lions says:

    tttwd
    well said mate. you have to earn that kind of love just as scholesy did! dennis irwin is another legend in my eyes

  194. 3 lions says:

    no player today can compare to besty. the man got the shins kicked off him and yet he still prevailed

  195. Udhala says:

    Still remember Ronnie’s free kick against arsenal in the champions league from close to 40yards,and a thunderous shot to goal from about the same distance against porto. Messi can only dream of those,Ronnie any day for me.

  196. 3 lions says:

    rai
    you are a pleb :p

  197. Zibbie says:

    took a nap hello TREE!!!

  198. Zibbie says:

    Tree Maya cool!!

  199. FletchTHEMAN says:

    Salute @17:41
    Bit late with my reply but hope you catch it.

    Sunderland have some good songs? Must be the 1000 fans in the far end singing ;)

    But fair play on the Munich issue. As to Stand up if you hate Sunderland, don’t recall to many United fans ever singing it and don’t get into that type of chant myself. You hear it from the Bar Codes with the Stand up chants all the time ……… still seems a tame comparison to songs about dead football players, or fans.

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