If United had to lose on penalties, I wish it was Carlos Tevez that missed one. We love him and he would have been forgiven. Most likely he will already be forgiven for going AWOL for the entire game today.
Dimitar Berbatov is a different kettle of fish though. For whatever reason, the fans are already against him. It doesn’t matter that only Robin van Persie has more assists in the Premiership and it doesn’t matter that his touch is arguably better than anyone else in our team. The media branded him sulky before he came to United and the idea that he was lazy when he joined us quickly circulated. He doesn’t run around like Rooney or Tevez but he certainly works harder for team possession than Ronaldo. That doesn’t matter because Rooney or Tevez could go weeks without scoring and still be loved whilst Ronaldo can go missing all game then pop up to score the winner to get the fans onside.
Berbatov was sulky at Spurs because he wanted to play for Manchester United and he wanted to play Champions League football. The club said no and told him he had to stay put. So he stayed put and scored 23 goals for them. Like the summer before, he wanted to play for Manchester United and he wanted to play Champions League football and he was again told no. Of course he’s going to be fucked off if he has to stay with relegation fodder when he could be playing for the best team in Europe.
Manchester City came in for him, willing to pay him far more than United were, but he didn’t even meet with them. Just having a word with Mark Hughes would have upped his wages at United by a few thousand quid a week, but he wasn’t interested. He didn’t even want to know what ridiculous sum of money the bluenoses were prepared to pay him. He wasn’t arsed about the money, his only concern was to be a Manchester United player.
Rio Ferdinand was arsed about the money, but we forgave him. He took a poor penalty today and he is forgiven. Cristiano Ronaldo dreams of playing for another team but a large proportion of United fans have no issue with him announcing to the World he wanted out. Dimitar Berbatov dreams of being a United player and he’s got his wish. But that won’t be enough for some reds.
I call upon the fans who were asking for Ferguson’s head after a couple of years to make themselves known. We, as fans, make mistakes and judge prematurely. Berbatov had already been judged and following his dreadful penalty against Everton today will be judged further.
When he scored the winning goals against Boro, Bolton, Spurs and Newcastle, as well as bagging one against Chelsea, we certainly weren’t complaining.
My opinion is he is a cut above and will be absolutely class for United. Hopefully he will be given enough support from the fans to prove himself.
He fucked up today, that much is obvious. But you’re a fool if you don’t think he’s got what it takes to be a winner for United. He deserves to be slated for that penalty, but no more than Vidic does for his performance against Liverpool, or Scholesy for handling against Fulham, or Evans for gifting Porto’s first, or Van der Sar for getting a rush of blood at Anfield or a whole host of other mistakes that go on throughout the season. Berbatov has scored and assisted important goals for United this season and does not deserve the outpouring of grief he will take for his part in our defeat to Everton.
Berbatov was never the kind of player we needed. Not even at twenty million, never mind thirty. We need a real goal scorer. But even making allowances for that he’s been a real disappointment. I can’t see the point of him at all.
The penalty miss wasn’t the worst thing about his performance yesterday. It was that he just did nothing when he came on.
Red Charlie:
My reply is not based on his “crap penalty” but instead it is based upon his play throughout the year.
The term STRIKER means what?
Does scorer come to mind? I agree Berbatov has foot skills but why is he holding the ball while hounded by “at least three opposing players” instead of one or two touching the ball to a teammate?
Berbatov spends entirely to much time away from the box over touching the ball while opponents are given time to drop back on defense.
Rooney is the world class TEAM player not Berbatov.
Your comment that Berbatov is a million times better than Ruud is bonkers and reflects badly upon you…after you reflect upon same you should retract or provide FACTS to support your frivolous declaration.
Davies, Santa Cruz and Keane better than Berbatov? Don’t be daft.
Ps Scott, just out of interest is the response to this topic the highest number to date? I reckon it could be.
Berbatov is not the one that needs more of an opportunity. It’s management that needs another chance at figuring out how to interchange Rooney Ronaldo Tevez and Berbatov. All of our players are class. The team needs to be centered around Rooney not Berbatov. Different team will require a different line up to break them down. Sometimes it will be Rooney-Tevez, other times Rooney-Berbatov. Furthermore, when it’s Rooney-Berbatov our players should be more disciplined in staying in more fixed positions. The Rooney-Tevez partnership is literally breathtaking. The Rooney-Berbatov partnership has the potential to be just as deadly if implemented correctly.
“But you’re a fool if you don’t think he’s got what it takes to be a winner for United.”
Yeah, people said the same about Veron.
People need to get behind Berba at the match but away from all that, anyone having serious reservations about him as a United player is entirely understandable.
Ole P. Pedersen
what was our football like and trophy hall last year of 07/08
premiership and european champions with ronaldo rooney tevez interchanging it was breathtaking no berbetov
Yers Michael but for fucks sake teams have worked us out this season, in particular that trio. Football moves on and at the moment Sir Alex is still working out which way to play them all. As John Ferry said different teams require different line ups.
King Eric:
Kevin Davies, Santa Cruz and Robbie Keane if at ManU would have had a “greater impact” than Berbatov was the statement….
Given the opportunity to play with the TEAM all of the above would have flourished and surpassed the impression made this year by Berbatov. So you disagree…that’s one King’s opinion.
What about the other three players I listed, would prefer them over Berbatov? Please be thoughtful with your reply we don’t want a palace coup to take place!
King Eric
so we are better off playing our 2 best attackers in ronaldo and rooney out of position 2 accomadate this donkey. so lets say it was ronaldo rooney and torres has our front 3 last year you would be willing 2 break up that attack to try and fit in berbacrap. because you dnt get any better then ronaldo rooney and tevez running at you and they would still be awesome now.
You know what I hate?
I hate Man U “supporeters” that turns on a player or the whole club when in times of trouble. Unfortunately, we got something to learn from clubs like Newcastle and Liverpool to mention some…
Lets face it, we have just too many glory hunters in our supporter club and to those who only support United when they win; FUCK OFF, SCUM!!
Those of you that know me know that i love Berbatov, i just hate the position he’s played in. He should be pushed up top, as he was at Spurs and at Leverkusen, with Rooney in behind him.
As far as i’m concerned he’s an incredible player, but we’re using him wrong. He in the top 10 strikers in the world for me, and Rooney as a world class second striker. But for some reason they’re being played in each others positions when they’re together, which is ridiculous. SAF knows more than me, but it bugs me when i see balls going into the box and he’s 20 yeards behind play because a) he’s still deep after linking play and b) he’ll never be one of those players who breaks his neck to get into the box. We need him further forward to play as a target man and someone who gets on the end of things.
Oh, and i bet a friend £20 at the beginning of the season that he’d score 20 goals, and it looks like i’ve lost that.
I know its hard, we all feel angry for the way he plays, but i think fergie should talk to him and tell him that we expect more from him and him to change his attitude in a game..
come on, the only thing we can do is give him support, he will prove himself, maybe not this season, but the seasons ahead…
United Fan
davetian
LOL top 10 you are having a laugh, I will name you ronaldo rooney torres villa etoo henry adebayor aguero tevez benzama who are all better and would balance and improve united’s attack.
Sell Berby—have you completely lost your mind. The man has just come off the injured list and is playing his way back to fitness. The guy is majic and will come good and in a big way–he’s majic!!!!!!
But what is really pissing me off is this ridulous whining….leave that for those wanker gooner fans.
This is United after all and damn it people we have had so much to be excited about and still do!! Wake up and be thankful or go and join Man City–then you would something to moan about.
Top man.
Last year we won the double because of Ronaldo, everyone played a part tevez included but the free flowing footbal was because Ronaldo was hungry and was determined to be the best in the world…I don’t like him much but he still is! The Villa match proved that…he was our worst fucking player and scored two goals. Rooney and tevez for all their hard work and effort cannot consistently produce that, and if the ball isn’t played wthin a yard either side of Berba he doesn’t seem to give a shit! I still think he can come good but needs a good kick up the arse… I personally think it will be teve who loses out pre-season…especially when wellbeck and macheda looked every bit the threat of tevez or berbatov against Everton it was just a shame they had to play out on the left most of the game…Overall though i think we can be proud of the young side considering they were every bit as good as Everton over a long game on a shit pitch…the futures bright anyway!
William – Torres? No way not now being a dipper. Adebayour ? Good player, shite attitude. RVP? Not a fuckin chance mate!
isnt berbatov a dippper
Why blame berbatov for the losses of the game. You should have blame for all the players who play on that game first. Macheda Teves, Welbech is a absolutely useless. I f Berbatov started on that game, there should have score before reaching this penalty. Everybody misses penalty like Ronaldo, the most important as well in the finals of Championship and as well Rio who misses the penalty kick. And never compare Macheda to Berbatov as Macheda hasn’t prove anything yet not even close to Berbatov’s achievement in football.
berbatovisthegreat
welbeck is 18 berbatov is almost 29, welbeck is going to be a really top united player he is just raw so is macheda. LOL what has berbatov achieved in football
What you want of course is a player who combines the undoubted skill and artistry of Berbatov with the heart and passion of Tevez. But we already have such a player, his name is Wayne Rooney. Finding a striking partner for Rooney is the name of the game and neither Berbatov nor (sadly) Tevez fit the bill. We need a new van Nistelrooy.
Jesus he has gotta be some sort of dopey cunt to take a penalty like that….he has gotta know that the fans (me included) haven’t taken to him so to got out and fail like he did ….well he has either balls the sizeof footballs or the brain the size of a fucking pea.
ultimately the fault lies with SAFfor pick such a side as that……dear oh fucking dear…… what a cunting shambles
Been reading throught he many mnay posts on this and just wondered that twat called Michael has been supporting FC united …..just who the fuck are they?
Sory to sound gierant but just don’t understand what the fuck he is on about
King Eric:
SA would swap Berbatov for Torres or Adebayour or Van Persie….quick out
of town I think your crown is at risk!
Cheers, denton davey. You must have a Twitter account I can follow your views on?
Hear me out on this!
Last year I felt that our main success was due to Ronaldos Amazing season which i dont think he ever will repeat!!
At times i found Tevez and Rooney too simular and we lacked at times during some matches a more physical pressence or an arial threat!
During that season i seen a review of the season where points were given for assists and goals. The top 3 were 1 Ronaldo, 2 Berbatov & 3 Rooney!
So when fergie Signed Berbatov i was estatic!
What we have to remember is that he is not playing for a mid table team!
He is surrounded now by immence tallent!
He didnt have a preseason with us!
He has struggled to gel and be on the same wavelength as our current players!
Our current players have struggled to understand Berbatovs Strengths!
Fergie touched on it earlier in the season, our players have to gt used to how berbatov plays! He should be given the ball more in certain situations, He has amzing ability of keeping control of the ball and laying it off when surrounded by 3 or 4 players… Making more room for others to exploit!
Next season Berbatov will be settled and we should see the real Berbatov!
If not i have no doubt fergie will shift him on!…
Belive!
Keep faith in Fergie .. He has hardly ever let us down!
Berbatov just doesnt seem to know what hes doing on the field these days. Ok i accept thats hes lazy, thats his game but his lack of vision in recent games is driving me mad. Why is he playing Man Utd when he contributes absolutly nothing to the team? Cantona, Nistelroy, Ronaldo etc arent the biggest runarounds in man utd history but we love them all because they contribute something. I know Berbatov can play better i know hes world class but than again i knew that Verón was world class…
Micheal, stop the fuck posting!
I am tired of your bullshit! You loser
If you are a true fan, you’d be trying to support and boost every player’s confidence in this hard time, so close to the end of the season.
You all cry like little girls. YOU LOSERS. I AM TIRED OF YOU WHINING
Berbatov is a great player!
And you disgraced our entire community
Berbatov is sooo much better than Tevez its not even funny…
the argie has worse ball control than Johnny O’Shea at the moment…
there is no way he is going to be bought…the strike force for the next season will be Roon an Berbie with macheda welbeck campbell etc for support
misterq if you don’t like what scott says don’t come to the website. It is an OPINION! you can have yours but take your sad comments somewhere else!
Personally Berba is not one of my favourites but I will always want him to do well for the team…
I agree with some other comments too… he wears our shirt.. lets support him… and nagdaddy you are so right… Tevez is up to shite at the moment… I don’t see us paying that much for him now even though he is and can be a top player.
Glad you lost the semi, Ferguson disrespected the FA cup (again) by fielding your reserves and came a cropper. Thats why its great to see teams like Everton, Portsmouth West Ham in the final because they give their all and want the trophy. Not like you greedy lot. And now could this be the defining moment in the red devils season? Will you crash and burn and lose everything? Only time will tell………….
Well said Shame.
Totally disrespectful United fans just turning on players, support your bloody team and help them.
The haters are the same people that called for Fergusons head when we went through a so called bad period. Absolutely shocking and I think some may be intruding rivals fans (Scouse, arse and chelski scum)
Long live Ferguson, Sir Ledgend!!!
Nelly THE Hammer, what the fuck has it got to do with you?
I am amazed at how much stick berbatov has got from this match.
Has anyone remembered how shit tevez played?
His control reminded me of Emile Hesky!
Did he even get a shot on goal?
His workrate was good give him that!
He didnt look confident!
OUr 19 year old reserve Italian (forgot his name! im getting old!) striker out shined him on the day (His touch was good, tried to play loads of through balls and looked a threat!)
Wellbeck outsinded him! – Sam as above!
People say tevez is better but in the last 4 months any time he has played i havent seen how he is worth 30 million either!
I think United need a clinical Striker! I think Berbatov has more chance of being that than Tevez! Just need him to get some confidence!
Im also judeing tevez on last year! When his confidence was high he didnt often fill me with confidence he would convert any chance he received! I watched him time and time again ballon a shot over the bar!
Nelly THE Hammer
When you lot play in so many competitions you have to do what is right for the club!
I think fergies team selection was spot on! He matched Evertons Energy with Energy! We looked the better team in my opinion and were unlucky not to win before penalties!
yes we could have won by playing all of our big players! But how would that have set us up for the game on Wednesday?? Tired i think! Jaded and at best getting a Draw!
WE cannot loose the premier league to Liverpool that is unthinkable! If we only win the league this year as well as the worthless cup i will be happy! Anything else will be a bonus!!
nagdaddy
you are having a laugh berbetov better then tevez not in a million years. tevez is a billion times better then berbatov,
against porto who scored the 3 goals in the 2 games lets get this right.
rooney tevez ronaldo no berbatov, ex football players all dnt rate berbatov, just face it people berbatov is a flop and is another veron, and ppl say rooney and tevez are too simuler then what the hell is berbatov who is slow plays deep and he has made our attack worse. oh yea tevez scored more then rooney last year, and look at stats tevez scored vital goals last year and this year.
Michael,
You have proved with Previous posts you know fuck all about football!
You support Fc United.
Your oppinion doesnt Count in my opinion!!
Any true united supporter has the right to an opinion! If you support Fc United! Go comment on their players! On Their Forum!
Micheal.
you mentioned above that you support FC United, why should i listen to your opinion?
Do you think it means anything?
Does Berbatov Play for FC United?
Does Ferguson Manage FC United?
Are you talking about Manchester United or FC United?
If Manchester United… Why! You dont support them!
Is supporting FC United that Boring you have to plague other Teams Forums with your Opnion!
If you also feel you are fully qualified to Do a better Job than Fergie, I fully expect to hear your name mentioned as the candidates for his Job when he retires in a few years time!
You can call me Shit Head, Shit Face.. But at the end of the day i know you are just full of bullshit!
To the real Manchester United Fans, that have not been happy with Berbatov’s Performences all i ask is that we all give him time! Lets Judge him after next season!!
One thing i would bet my house on! Fergusion does not suffer fools! He will get rid of anyone who is not pulling his weight or anyone he feels is no use to the team!
DID ANYONE NOTICE THAT THAT PENALTY WAS AN EXCACT CARBON COPY OF THE PENALTY HE TOOK AGAINST CHELSEA IN LAST YEARS CARLING CUP FINAL.
Trevor–you are a top man…The rest of you whiners, take note and open your traps only if it is in support.
Last year you where over the moon when we signed this great striker. He is a first rate player and will win many games for united. Get on board and give the bloke support!! Otherwise, keep your negativity to yourselves. We are but 7 games from winning the EPL Championship again and three games away from lifting the Champions Legaue trophy. Hang in there you fair weather pricks. Here’s my guess, most of you whiners aren’t real united fans, cause united fans support their team through thick and thin!!!
Save this whinging for the real fair weather pricks over at Arsenal.
I do not agree with all the comments one would classify as anti Berbatov-I have discussed my concerns with him and the fact I favor keeping Tevez. I never considered this forum one that mandated always spouting positive platitudes concerning the players or manager.
I do not believe Scott the Red requires one follow the party line and if my belief is correct those who take it upon themselves to create a moralistic attitude of a die hard supporter should develop a new forum where they can form a circle jerk with like thinking pretenders!
The TEAM and this forum will survive without you.
TREVOR You obviously didn’t choose the right team cos you fuckin lost! And for matching Everton with energy give me a break. You deserved to lose, thought you were second best all day. And to blame the pitch like Arsene Whinger, fuck me how sad is that? Bet the travelling Manc fans thought the line up was shit as well, not like you armchair critics. As for Berbatov, what a lazy nob. Glad you all think that he’s worth the money and contract whereas Tevez is out the door this summer. Now there is a player who deserves to be in the team. Whe’d take him back anyday. Come back Tevez, we luv yer still.
By the way, I am not anti Manc, would rather you win the prem than the scouse twats, but thought you could’ve made an effort on sunday.
Nelly The Hammer
yes we lost, but i still feel we picked the right team under the situation we were in! The premiership is more important than The FA Cup.
Everton better than us on the day? Erm were you watching the right match? Did you watch it!
I didnt think there was much in the game at all. We had good posession! We had chances, Everton to me didnt cause us much trouble!
If we had all our top players playing then yes we might have won! But what would we have done in the following match against Portsmouth!
I wouldnt expect a Hammers fan to understand that there is bigger fish than the FA Cup! Its the only highlight of your year! Apart from celebrating each year when you secure your position in the Premiership and not find yourself in the Championship!
At the end of the day! We lost! We got put out of the FA Cup but i am sure we can live with it! The sweetness of lifting the premier league will make sure to that! If we get the Champions League then that will be a bonus.
Nelly let me hear you sing!!!! “Im for ever blowing bubbles pretty bubbles but no fc*king cups!” Piss off to the Hammers forum and keep talking like a Real Club wanabe!
Hi! I am from Bulgaria, and Berbatov is one of poor forwards. He is familiar by medias.