If United had to lose on penalties, I wish it was Carlos Tevez that missed one. We love him and he would have been forgiven. Most likely he will already be forgiven for going AWOL for the entire game today.
Dimitar Berbatov is a different kettle of fish though. For whatever reason, the fans are already against him. It doesn’t matter that only Robin van Persie has more assists in the Premiership and it doesn’t matter that his touch is arguably better than anyone else in our team. The media branded him sulky before he came to United and the idea that he was lazy when he joined us quickly circulated. He doesn’t run around like Rooney or Tevez but he certainly works harder for team possession than Ronaldo. That doesn’t matter because Rooney or Tevez could go weeks without scoring and still be loved whilst Ronaldo can go missing all game then pop up to score the winner to get the fans onside.
Berbatov was sulky at Spurs because he wanted to play for Manchester United and he wanted to play Champions League football. The club said no and told him he had to stay put. So he stayed put and scored 23 goals for them. Like the summer before, he wanted to play for Manchester United and he wanted to play Champions League football and he was again told no. Of course he’s going to be fucked off if he has to stay with relegation fodder when he could be playing for the best team in Europe.
Manchester City came in for him, willing to pay him far more than United were, but he didn’t even meet with them. Just having a word with Mark Hughes would have upped his wages at United by a few thousand quid a week, but he wasn’t interested. He didn’t even want to know what ridiculous sum of money the bluenoses were prepared to pay him. He wasn’t arsed about the money, his only concern was to be a Manchester United player.
Rio Ferdinand was arsed about the money, but we forgave him. He took a poor penalty today and he is forgiven. Cristiano Ronaldo dreams of playing for another team but a large proportion of United fans have no issue with him announcing to the World he wanted out. Dimitar Berbatov dreams of being a United player and he’s got his wish. But that won’t be enough for some reds.
I call upon the fans who were asking for Ferguson’s head after a couple of years to make themselves known. We, as fans, make mistakes and judge prematurely. Berbatov had already been judged and following his dreadful penalty against Everton today will be judged further.
When he scored the winning goals against Boro, Bolton, Spurs and Newcastle, as well as bagging one against Chelsea, we certainly weren’t complaining.
My opinion is he is a cut above and will be absolutely class for United. Hopefully he will be given enough support from the fans to prove himself.
He fucked up today, that much is obvious. But you’re a fool if you don’t think he’s got what it takes to be a winner for United. He deserves to be slated for that penalty, but no more than Vidic does for his performance against Liverpool, or Scholesy for handling against Fulham, or Evans for gifting Porto’s first, or Van der Sar for getting a rush of blood at Anfield or a whole host of other mistakes that go on throughout the season. Berbatov has scored and assisted important goals for United this season and does not deserve the outpouring of grief he will take for his part in our defeat to Everton.
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cmon scott do a poll for ppl to decide is he a waste of money or a success. has you know I cant stand the shitface
SELL BERBETOV
I just wanna say
I LIKE BERBATOV
Why the fuck didn’t Tevez take the first penalty. If Berbatov starts on wednesday. Doubt it. He will get small boos but he is gonna have to score and actually move to redeem himself.
micheal this is wrote for gimps like you
slip your united jersey under your jumper untill they win the league then show it proud sometime in may
maybe berbatov will score a last min winner in the champions league final so you could get his name printed on the back
Berbatov is an amazing midfielder with a great touch. Unfortunately we dont need another midfielder. We need him to play like a forward. Also lets be honest that was an awful penalty kick.
gotta hate tiny tears
I liked veron he had this class and magic about him, berbetov has nothing. and you know what I can bet berbecrap will not score in any champions league games because he is average and useless, ronaldo rooney torres messi kaka etoo henry villa ribery are world class, berbetov is average.
gotta hate tiny tears
and you are a gimp for thinking he is any good. so thousands of united fans who think like me are all gimps you clearly know nothing of the game if you think berbetov is worth 30 million and I thought scousers were blind.
micheal, did you not rip on ronaldo on this a few times
Its easy to see why people hate Berbatov – his attitude and his “lazyness” makes him an easy target and sadly some people cant see beyond it.
That being said, he had a slow start – but who would expect better? He’s a totally different player than what we’ve had for years – which means; not only did Berbatov have to get used to playing in a new club but the players in United also had to get used to playing with a new type of player. I think Berbatov has been class lately, though – he didnt create much vs. Porto, but his ability to hold up the ball gave the team the breathing space thats needed sometimes. His ability to keep the ball on his feet also set up Scholes’ goal agianst Sunderland last week (Berbatov being the player who played it out to Rooney who crossed the ball) – but somehow people dont really see all these brilliant parts for some reason, probably because theyre too busy cursing at him.
The main problem as I see it is that people expected Fergie to sign a different player. People expected a goalgetter who wouldnt do anything but be around the opponents penalty field at all times – Berbatov isnt such a player but it seems like some people havent realised it yet, since one of the main arguments people keep bringing up is his low number of goals.
That being said, I dont think we’ve seen the best of Berbatov yet – but saying he’s a flop and using him as a scapegoat is absolutely madness.
I think Berba will show his class and score more often. Yes, his penalty was terrible today, but we can get over it. In my opinion, Berbatov shouldn’t have been subbed on today, as we had Gibson and Welbeck on the wings. I would have bought on Nani, and let Welbeck move up front, as he did do some good dribbling and passing.
Lets face it, the decision for the penalty takers was wrong. Berbatov should have done better, but i would still have picked him to take one. Anderson was also an obvious contender, having scored in both CL and Carling cup finals. Rio and Vidic should not have taken penalties. I can only think that the decision for this came about, as they were ‘senior’ players. Welbeck / gibson would have done better. And I agree with someone above, Tevez should have taken one of the first 2/3.
Having said all of this, I do not hate any players, or blame them. Hell, I don’t even dislike any players. In fact, I would proudly wear a Manchester United shirt with ANY player’s name on the back. (However, my current shirts have my name on the back
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Misleading title Scott.If someone doesn’t read the script,they will get the wrong idea.But i agree with you.
I like Berbatov, but that was an extremely weak penalty. He barely kicked it. It was like watching my 4 year old cousin kick it around after Easter.
u have to prove ur worth to the fans scott
berbatov has not
does he look like a 30 million pound man to u
gotta hate tiny tears
I have for his moaning for thinking he cant be touched, but I have never doubted the fact that CR7 is a world class player who would get into the all time united 11.
spencer Scott has mentioned 4 games that he scored the winning goals in.And if you count the Stoke away game that makes it 5 games and 15 points.I we win the title that will be priceless.The transfer fee was a joke but that’s football these days.Is Robinho worth 34 million?
For someone who sulked his way to United to play for his dream team and in the champions league, he doesn’t fucking show it. I’m sure his assists are against the smaller teams when the games already won. He’s come in and made a person who sweats blood and is willing to tackle with his head for the team get relegated to the bench just to justify his ridiculous price and slow down and spoil our game. As a result, Tevez becomes disillusioned and out of form. Come on Scott, just because you’re good doesn’t give you the right to stroll you way through the season.. What if we had a forward three of Messi, Rooney and Torres yet they don’t give their all to the team? Would you be satisfied just because they are class? Why do you slate Ronaldo yet let Berbafuck get away with his crap? Its a team game. We effectivly play nine when we lose possesion. For all his lazy style, his attitude stinks most. I for one would love to see him fuck off, be it a free transfer or not. We can then get down to playing like last season. Hell, why didn’t we just sign up Tevez and not change a winning team. Aaaagh!
the fact of the matter is we paid £30 million for a world class Berbatov but instead spurs sent the count from the muppets up the M6.
the thing is – I want him to play better, I want him to smack it in- but he just doesn’t do it.
lets be fucking honest if that basterd riley hadnt bottled the penalty we wouldnt be having this conversation.
spencer
tell some of these idiots that berbetov has been a flop, shevchenckho was a flop at chelski and so is berbetov.
Don Pablo
I totaly agree, ronaldo gets so much stick from scot the red and allot of this site I have but they moan about ronaldo not doing this, despite he was the driven force behind our back to back titles and european cup. ferguson is so ironic he booted and dropped van nistlerooy for not doing enough I dnt exactly see berbetov in the same league has the 05/06 van nistlerooy who got over 21 goals that year.
the guy has no balls, poor attitude and a lack of character.. that penalty was a microcosm of his united career… i have never seen more ridicoulous penalty.. i do not rate the guy as a united player.. yes he turned down more money from cit-eh and im sure he is a decent bloke no doubt, but he needs to show more courage… he seriously needs to up his game and front up… i would be happy to see the back of him to be honest
and scott the red, i would think if that was ronaldo who took that penalty there would have been a furore.. sure berbatosser is gonna score goals and get assists, he plays in all our games when he is fit! sir alex does not like to admit mistakes but i would guarentee he is absolutley disgusted with berbatossers performances to date…
Let’s wait until the end of the season to judge him.Has he cost us the cup?No.Because United with a stronger team would have knocked the stuffing out of them.And even like this,he should have never taken the first penalty.SAF cut his losses with Veron even though we had just won the title,so he will be brave enough to do the same if he feels like that.But at the moment,Berbatov is a United player.
Who is ultimately at fault ? Berba for not playing like a goal poacher or Ferguson for playing him like a midfielder ? He has great talelnt, but he is not being used correctly.
Keanesmagichat – If Ronaldo missed the penalty they’d still be singing “Viva Ronaldo” because he’s The Best Player In The World (TM). If he can be forgiven for saying he dreams of leaving United, he’d certainly be forgiven for missing a penalty!
Scott, take the names of all the fools who write to suggest Berba’s a flop and challenge them to write in again 13 months from now (May 2010). How many were convinced by Vida and Evra in their first season? Berbetov is world class and as such deserves to be at our club. I’m going to stick my neck out here and predict that he even has “King Eric” potential. Let’s get behind him.
SELL BERBETOV its that simple
i have tried n tried n tried again to like berba…
keep reminding myself – he has a classy first touch . he creates amazing opportunities blah blah blah
initially when fans got on his back i stuck up for him
but watching him play over the last month or so i’m really stunned by his apathy . its all good saying ”we are manchester united – we will win” etc , but that wont happen unless we actually get onto the pitch and try .
berba it seems doesnt even want to try . imo he was a different player at spurs . i think SAF needs to have a little chat with him just like he did with cristiano . he may be twice the player tevez is , but i dont like players who dont have any fight in them . he seems to think he has it made . yes , you dont have to run around like a madman like tevez or wazza but could you at least do what your job requires of you ?- get in the box , score , try to show that u give a fuck! he has no off the ball movement , no inclination to get in the box , no pace , and absolutely ZERO work rate .
remember the porto game ? – giggsy played an amazing ball to find berba who was about 10 yards outside the box with no defenders in sight . i was thinking , easy , 2-0 , game over… but he just collected the ball , stood there waiting for the defender to come and tackle him which is exactly what happened . this is just one of many many examples .
today – 17 year old kiko macheda looked better than him . and what can i say about the pen?!
now my final analysis – he has not been the worst signing ever…maybe he needs another year to fit in . clearly he hasnt – stats show that rooney n him have only linked up for one goal between them . however , a player doesnt lose quality overnight…fergie needs to talk to him n sort it out asap . i say keep him for another year n then decide whether to offload him or not .
i have been pretty disappointed in him so far this season but am willing to give him an opportunity to set things right . had hoped he would be the clinical finisher we so desperately needed last year , but he turned out to be a creative midfielder .
having said all of this – as long as he wears the red of united , he shall have my support , n i implore all those going to old trafford not to boo him .
dave mack, ya cunt is anyone who doesnt agree with you a fool… dickhead…
vidic and evra were completely different they had never played in the premiership for one and they came in january.. berba has been here over 8 months and he has done very very little… he doent have the spirit its simple… that penalty was amazing given the circumstances and if u r gonna try a penalty like that you should at least have the balls to wait until the keeper moves.. but of course bottle is what he is lacking
Dave Mack
well he can take down my name because the group of us like me keanesmagichat Don Pablo and many more who will not be proved wrong that we know our stuff. we know he is such a waste of money its not even funny and thats a fact.
SELL BERBETOV
My jeez! That was a morale killing penalty 4rm barba. We had all d advantage in d world. Well done young lads. Our future is secured.
Class player, shit penalty, he wears our shirt. Support him.
I am ashamed of some of these comments on here, it’s like a dipper site! Berbatov wants to be here and has the skills to be a great United player so those of you sticking the knife into this guy shut up! So he has not set O.T. alight this year, well tell me who has? We need to wipe our face and just get on with it………. Together and right behind every single player in the squad…………… Well done Everton, now go and win it! And to the youngsters who played today I am proud of you.
there is 2 or 3 people pissin about berbatov
berbatov came out and says he’s 100% manchester united
and people are running him down because he missed a peno
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Thank you Scott. Someone with some fucking sense!
I wouldnt go as far as saying I hate him, that’s too strong! Dis-like him? Yes, thats more appropriate.
Scott, you should think more of your fellow reds than to jump on a bandwagon because of a media storm saying Berbatov is lazy and arrogant, we can make up our own minds. The blokes effort is absolutely disgusting, and I cant defend the bloke from the criticism he gets because he deserves it! That penalty was fucking pathetic! I am disgusted at how casuall he was in taking it.
Macheda chased down absolutely everything today. He looked for the ball at every oppurtunity, looked for his team mates, followed up his own passes, and chased down every ball. Berbatov should take fucking note! I’m disgusted by the blokes effort, get rid!
i certainly wouldnt advocate booing him, but i would be happy to see him sold.. as i have said previously, i never wanted him in the 1st place and think he slows our play down and is not direct enough.. where is the player who used take people on, take shots, have a cut.. no he lacks the balls lads simple.. the guy is a spurs player, end of
keanesmagichat
I hate the guy, if we dnt win the league I will blame him. if he broke his foot I would not care because he is useless anyway.
oh yea I forgot SELL BERBETOV
Looking forward to reading Denton Davey’s response.
The only word to sum up Berbatov at the moment is ‘frustrating’. Sh*t pen. End of. Move on.
Now to Portsmouth – get the three points. Then onto Spurs – get the three points. Hello Arsenal… where I’m sure Berbatov will pop up with a goal!
sell micheal to a dippers forum
Guys maybe we should bring Dion Dublin back?How does that sound?I don’t know if i am stating the obvious here,but Riley cost us the game.The penalty selection cost us the game.Berbatov won’t change his style at 28.Fergie has to learn to use him to his strengths.
Keanesmagichat, glad to see you’ve calmed down a bit mate, an hour ago on another thread you were issuing death threats and now you’re not even advocating booing him! Dont you feel he’s made ANY contribution at all?
Michael: It’s past your bedtime you naughty boy!
I must admit when Berbatov signed I thought he was the missing piece in the jigsaw.
And i must admit I’m now having my doubts.
I think he does deserve more time – players like vida and evra took time to bed in.
And public opinion would soon change if he contributes significantly to the final games of the season.
He does bring a calming influence to the team and I thought he was very good in the first half hour away in porto
However when you consider what we paid for him and then consider what Torres, Drogba and Adebayor give each of our main domestic rivals
– i dont think Berba has done the same for us so far this season – the only moment of magic i can remember from him was the turn against West Ham.
I think half the problem is that Berba is being asked to lead our line and that just isnt the type of player he is! Whilst being tall, he is not a target man. He’s not strong, he’s not quick and he doesnt run the channels.
We now have 3 strikers that want to play in the hole behind a target man.
Berba could be a cantona type player for us if he played in the hole – unfortunately we already have wazza to play there.
I think we need to support Berba until the end of the season and then re-evaluate. Carlos and Wazza worked out playing together last season, but i dont think wayne and dimitar have quite managed it yet. Maybe they need to swap – let wazza play up top like he did last year and
give dimitar the chance to show what he can do when floating in behind…
I hope the fans dont start booing berba- that would just be counter productive. We need to get behind him and hope he comes good.
However, I do think in the summer we should be looking for a proper target man striker that wayne can play behind.
With Macheda in the wings we could even look at someone a bit older, more experienced and cheaper to bridge the gap until Kiko is ready….
Gary
Spot on mate.. people can have their own opinions without being called fools as we have been on here….
I must admit in all my time going to old trafford and supporting united i have never disliked a united player, but i despise berbatosser… not because he is gash, but because of his attitude or lack of.. we are manchester united he says, no mate roy keane, giggs, scholes, vidic, ole, rooney, et al are manchester united.. you berbatov are spurs
“With Macheda in the wings we could even look at someone a bit older, more experienced and cheaper to bridge the gap until Kiko is ready….”
He is more than ready!
keanesmagichat i would never call a United fan an idiot but we have to take it easy my friend.Everything is still up for grabs in the next 10 games.We could still be in for a memorable season.
its in my blood
how are ya.. calmed down a bit, emotions were high.. i think his contribution has been negative to be honest, he slows down our plat and in my opinion is one of the main reasons why we are not functioning up top.. he turns back on himself 9 times out of 10.. passes backwards etc.. of course he will have good moments, he has a nice touch etc but he lacks character.. i want rid of him…
Keanesmagichat: Don’t agree with you but the last three lines on your last post are very well put.
Rob the Red
you like many who defend berbetov know nothing of the game and thats a fact, isnt your time to sleep its way past your bed time
previous post rto the last one
costas
it was not you my friend it was dave mack who called us fools.. i understand we could still have a memorable season, but in my opinion it will be in spite of berba.. as much of our success this season has been in spite of berbatov
costas
and the current side is not a match on 99 or 08
Micheal: Lighten up mate!
keanesmagichat
Good point you make when saying you despise him for his attitude and lack of effort, rather than his pathetic displays. I mean the likes of Eric Djemba Djemba, Kleberson and David Bellion were not good enough for United, but I still supported them because the tried! And they even celebrated when they scored their first goals for the club, unlike Berbatov.
lads there is no need to be having a go at each other we are all passionate united fans.. but some have differing opinions… relax i think he is gash with a poor attitude but that doesnt mean i wont listen to and read others opinions of berbatov…
Shocking pen by Berb but lets move on.
The fact is we didn’t do enough to win the game. OK Danny should of had a pen but lets not hold onto that excuse.
Team done extremely well but lacked that ‘cutting edge’ upfront.
Disappointed we didn’t win but i’m not going to lose any sleep over it.
keanesmagichat
you know my big problem is, I see a player who’s attitude is a disgrace, I mean if I was 14 and I came in with that attitude I would be booted out so fast I would not be able to say bobs your uncle, so how is alright for a player like him to be allowed to do that. van nistlerooy did that and he was thrown out the door, forlan was never given a real crack yet he plays an average player in berbecrap who forlan was far better and given a real crack maybe forlan would have been a success.
@keanesmagichat:Oh ok.Everyone has more or less contributed.Berba,Rooney,Ronaldo,Giggs,Tevez,they have all won us games.I found out something strabge yesterday.I checked the stats for the team whenever he starts.It turns out that we score more and concede less on average whenever he is in the starting line up.I think that there is some value to his play,but it’s difficult to see it.
@micheal: You are right.These seasons will not be replicated easily.That’s why i have said that i would take the league this year.
How bad was the penalty anyway? Lots of players stick it down the middle and when it works nobody says a word. Tim Howard just managed to get a foot to it and Berbatov is the very Devil incarnate. Any views on that?
Gary
thats it exactly, we are united we dont boo our own players… but please act like you care… he penalty was a lack of respect.. as i have said its a microcosm of his united career to be honest… the 1st poster on here said he will get booed on wednesday.. now i dislike the bloke intently, il be at the game and i would be loathe to boo our own player! it would disgust me.. leave that to the gooners and the rent boys lads… we are united
Completely disagree Scott. He doesn’t put in the effort, he is lazy, that’s undeniable. Ronaldo is lazy too, sure, but if it wasn’t for him we’d be out of the CL. Can we say the same about Berbatov? And don’t give me assist stats, he’s not there for that, he’s there to score goals.
michael
good point, i said previously that sir alex never likes to admit mistakes and he stuck his head on the line for that cunt… and privately sir alex must be as disappointed as we are with him… im devasted by it to be honest mate…
costas, you never seize to amaze me with your stats.. fair balls lad…
i said before i think most our games have been won in spite of berabatov and i stand by that.. over 90 minutes he does very very little mate.. and if sir alex hadnt shelled out so much cash for him he wouldnt be playing..
Micheal: As a youth I was in the squad for Manchester boys and also represented Stockport when we moved there, I also had trials with pro clubs but had dodgy knee injury, oh and Sir Matt wanted to sign my Dad so I do know a little about soccerball!
See I dont buy the argument that Ronaldo is lazy at all. Yes I agree he has been very petty recently in appealing for a free kick when there is minimal contact, but he doesnt lack effort. Yes, he made a bad mistake for Villa’s second goal at Old Trafford, and yes the love affair between the fans and him will never be the same after this summers fiasco, but he still tries his heart out and he still the most talented player I have seen at Old Trafford since I have been watching United. Hes a match winner, and we owe him our support for the last 2 season especially, and of course he owes aswel for our support in defending him and turning him into a marter after the world cup.
keanesmagichat
I am not devistated to be honnest I am glad that berbetov was found out has the lazy average moaron that he is, theres a reason why he was at leverkusen for so long because no one else bar spurs wanted to buy him. like I said torres was up for grabs but feguson had this stupid idea that berbecrap was like cantona. its like saying richerdson was going to be the next ryan giggs
@keanesmagichat: At the end of the day,stats could mean nothing.Going by stats,Forlan would have never made the Scousers cry!I think what they might mean though is that we found a type of play with him in.Wednesday was a typical United performance with Berbatov in it.Not too adventurous as a team but we held the ball up pretty well.To take our mind of the bad memories,here’s a thought:2 Nevilles lifting the domestic trophies in May.You can here the cries from the rest half of Merseyside!
hear i meant
torres had his heart set on the dippers michael…
but i reckn etoo would have been perfect at half the price.. and barca were looking to sell last summer.. imagine etoo lads he would have been the dogs bollox, instead we got berbatov….
i cant believe some of the shite coming out here 2nite! sounds like we have dragged him some of the glory hunters 2nite! go back and fish out your chelsea tops u wer wearing a couple of years ago and support them you muppets! anybody who wears a united shirt will get 100% support from me and until they leave they wont be judged!
What can i say about Berba, the guy ouzes class, he is something special! just some of you fickle fans havent give him a proper chance!!
United havent played with the attacking flair that we are all used to watching this year, so how can you judge him if he hasnt got the proper service we all expect to see! we are more cautious this year and most of the season he has been used out of position, the whole team has been relatively poor this year in attacking terms, but you cant use berbatov as a scapegoat!
if you wer a real united fan u will support him thru thick or thin! no matter what! if not u can fuck off back to the rentboys or u can go to that massive club over at wastelands..
costas
this debate has energised me! i do agree he can hold the ball up well but he was bought to bring even more imagination to our play and score… and he has done neither.. we could have bought kevin davies to hold the ball up and bring people into play.. to be fair davies has sored more than him this season i reckon.. in less games too id hazard a guess
Torres truly had his heart set on Liverpool.He even had a tatto “You will never wank alone” or something like that.Eto would have been a great addition.Personally i still think we need a target man.Kiko is the first player i have seen in a while in the Red shirt that plays with his back to goal.
Keanesmagichat, hi, well i agree with your comments about him slowing play up etc. It may well be that we as a team have’nt found the right way to blend him in. Although we won the CL and Prem last year, i think SAF realised long ago that we have to continue to evolve to maintain success. After 99 he said it was a mistake to continue Yorke & Cole in the same format as teams had figured us out. In some games without Berbatov it often has looked liked they have figured us out from last year. I can’t say that he’s been an instant success because that clearly hasn’t been the case. However, one only has to go back to Vidic and Evra in their first term with us to see how dramatically things can change a season later. I just feel that the time to slate him has not yet arrived, in spite of that appalling penalty! When a player continues to be supported by the faithful it can only help. We only have a handful of games left and we really need to sing from the same songsheet to help bring those trophies home. Inquest in the summer…if needed.
mrmyagki
ya horrible little cunt.. if you think berbatov has oozed class than you know very little about football…
i have supported united and attend games for nearly 20 years mate and i am entitled to my opinion… he has no character and a lack of balls of course he will still be supported… but he has been an absolute flop so far end of…
cunts like you who think you know it all are the worst type of fans and posters.. grow a pair lad
mrmyagki
Dont give me some moral high shit that I should support Berbatov through thick and thin! He isnt a friend or a fucking family member! I will never boo the lazy twat, but I dont have to give him rapturous applause either! Like he appreciates the support anyway, the bloke didnt even celebrate his first goals for the club. Spurs fans dislike him, Bulgaria fans dislike him, leading to Berbatov to threaten to quit international football. Berbatov clocked up what was on the worst all time meters covered in a match for Bulgaria, its no myth he is a lazy twat, its a fucking fact! He doesnt have the class to go with it either!
Hmm,i hope it aint soo.But berbatov is proving to be “LESulk 2″..I have never seen a man united player who is a striker that his positioning in the penalty box is dammn poor..Even Forlan was better than berbatov..Face the facts scott the red,he is just too slow.And i quite agree with keanesmagichat,we Never wanted him in the 1st place,never like him in the 1st place either.His play has been real average for United..I thought having won the double,i hope that we would get some1 more of a goal poacher,but instead we got berbatov.And i dun even mind if we sell him..Anyway,like ronaldo and others i will TRY and STILL support berbatov cuz he is a man united player after all..COMMON BERBATOV STOP SULKING AND START SCORING….
costas
no one knows what he wanted, its simple berbetov should never been signed its that simple and a fact. how could we miss out on etoo he has passion drive and a match winner, lets see if etoo would have missed a pen like that. berbetov does not score slow lazy and makes our attack slow
its in my blood
i agree somewhat, and as i have said he will be supported im sure of that.. but to compare with vidic and evra is not on, this is berbatovs 3rd season in the premiership.. i could get over it if he was not playing well no problem, but its the way he doesnt care that gets me mate.. and i really dont think he does care to be honest.. he has to front up and i dont think he has it in him.. if next year he turns it around i will be the first to hold my hands up, but again i dont think he will
keanesmagichat
so we should have supported djemba and kleberson, I thought veron was a class act and I was a big fan of his, he was even a fans favourite at times. there is a reason why we suppport tevez because he is like one of us he gives his all and he was a massive factor in us winning the double look at tevez stats, oh yea if he had not scored the porto second goal we would be out of europe thats a stat for you berbetov fanboys.
keanesmagichat
that was not aimed at you but another set of players that the other fans seemed to think we should have supported
I think Berbatov’s performance today was disappointing, even before the penalty. The same can be said of many of his other performances this season. That said, he has at times shown flashes of quality (though not once today) and his season has been disrupted a little by a few short-term injuries. However, I still think that for the amount we paid for him, the fuss that was made in getting signing him and the fact that he had already seasoned to the premiership means that we are entitled to expect more than he’s shown this season, at 28 and as a professional he should have stepped up to the plate by now. That said, I dont think it should be forgotten that he DOES like to play in the same area as Wayne and Tevez, this was known before he came. His style of play with regards to his movement and tempo was also known before he came so to a certain degree I think that not all of the blame for this problem can be placed on his shoulders. I still have hopes that Berbatov will be a success here but he has to start working at that success and not assume it’ll happen just because he’s at Manchester United. On another depressing note…this season seems to have endured quite a bit of disruption and anticipation of good performances, i cant rid the feeling that I wont look back on this season with the same joy as last season irrespective of what’s won come the end of May. And finally on a brighter note, I thought Kiko was great again today, no goals but he worked his socks off and in all the right areas, causing trouble for the blues defence, i think we missed him once he came off.
In fairness,it took Carrick a while to settle as well.Tottenham is not the same as United.Guys let’s prep ourselves because tomorrow the team and Fergie are heading for a lot of bacllash from the tabloids.Apparently their Quintuple and dream final headlines have been taken away from them and it’s all out fault.They accuse Fergie of ruining the Quintuple.Right now i want to ask Scott to put up a poll asking if we prefer today’s events or a win with our first teamers that would have sapped the energy from them and might have led to 1-2 injuries.
micheal in Veron’s case you could also see his anticipation to fit in.I was also a big fan.But it was the same as Berbatov.You can’t shape a player when he is 27-28.I remember wwhen Veron signed up it was one of my best days.Pity it didn’t work out.
michael
exactly mate.. its different being a class act at spurs and being stand out for united.. the way opposistion teams see you differently is obvious, the media introspection is a lot more aggressive, the supporters demand more and of course you need character to handle it.. and as Gary put it better than me he doesnt have the character..
Gary
spot on, he couldnt give a fuck about us and what we think.. imagine if roy keane was still around and was stood in the centre circle after that penalty, he would have gone through him for a short cut
Keanesmagichat, fair enough, if he turns it around you’ll hold your hands up! Over to you Berba….
keanesmagichat
keano would have given him 2 black eyes and a broken nose after today, fergie for me I am angry with, lets look at tevez august 2007 april 2008 he was fantastic. berbetov sep 2008 to april 2009 has been a joke. so fergie you think berbetov has done enough to get in ahead of tevez who also put 4 past blackburn in one match. uniteds 10 championship winning sides have all been power and dinamic attacking names this guy berbecrap is a joke
SELL BERBETOV
spurs were a joke last year where was he when they were so crap
A couple of things:
Many here are asking that Berbatov get more time to prove his worth. I think this is completely reasonable but unfortunately impractical. Adjusting to a new team is always difficult, but the premier league has become intensely competitive and only becomes more so every year. Every team we face in the league has the potential to beat us or tie us, and the result of each game can prove to be absolutely critical in the long run. Many fans at United, of course, know this so we are always disappointed whenever we get a bad result. As a result, we simply cannot afford to give players as much time to adapt as we’d like. This can be misconstrued as fans being “glory-hunters” but I feel that it’s more out of our own anxiety and desire to see united win or, at the very least, put in a good show. When it comes down to it, all of us just want to be entertained and see United playing the United way.
However, one thing that sets us United fans apart from fans of other teams is that we value passion and commitment in our players. Fletcher is one example. I personally think Park is bollocks, as he has no end product and always manages to miss open nets somehow, but I respect him as a team member for the effort he puts in. This is simply not the case with Berbatov; he only makes it easier for fans to dislike him. Yes, he is class. But is he class for United? That still remains to be seen. I hope for everyone’s sake that he pulls through.
Statistics-wise, I do not buy into the hype of our team conceding fewer goals when he’s on the pitch. Such statistics don’t “prove” anything. It might just be that we’ve had our rock-solid defense play in most of the matches Berbatov has, and that when Berbatov hasn’t played, our defense has been out injured or red-carded. Statistics really count for squat and don’t say much. And yes, he may have scored the only goal in several games that have been important. But this does not necessarily translate into Berbatov having played an “important role.” If we had played another striker instead of Berbatov in those games, for example, we may have killed the opposition team or not. There is just no way of knowing. If we use that argument, every player – at some point in their career – must have “contributed SOMETHING” to a squad. Hell, if I’m a midfielder and I only keep passing backwards, I’d be contributing with my 100% pass-rate completion.
In the end though, Berbatov is a United player. So it’s our duty as fans to support him through thick and thin. Hopefully he will realize that and find the new courage we so desperately wish to see in him.
Just my two cents.
Actually Roy,when we were performing poorly in 01-02,said that the new players were the last that shpuld get the blame for the perfromances.At the same time he reportedly told Veron that he cost us the title after the error against Boro at home.So as it was usually the case,will the real Roy Keane please stand up?
No offence to Keano of course.Just some humor.
when Berbatov first came I thought he would be the next cantona, I wasn’t sure of that belief for a period…but if you watch him closely his ball retention still adds so much to the team, yes he isn’t quick, yes he isn’t a torres-esque striker but his link up play is phenomenal, it’s like having a fortress at the top of the pitch, the ball gets smashed at him and it just sticks and he invariably finds someone…but we do need a proper striker, or maybe rooney and berbs will learn to play that role between them eventually…Tevez on the other hand is a joke, it annoys me that he talks a lot to the press (which he does so let’s take off the rose-tinted glasses) about how good he is, what he used to do, where he should be playing…he plays 120 mins as the senior player and you could be forgiven for thinking Anderson was the one with his United career on the line…fuckin sell him, he’s dreadful, he’s had flashes this season but just running until you get tackled doesn’t count as playing well…berbatov’s penalty was ridiculous though but I really don’t care, we’d be better off questioning Moyes/reilly or the strangest team selection to date considering it was an FA cup semi-final and now we’re all pissed off we lost it, so why only play two out of your starting 11? no giggs or even scoles? It was really odd…on the positive side Anderson should become a regular starter, he’s becoming really effective….
michael
i agree and i think tevez’s performances would be so much better if he was playing regularly but he is not cos that twat is playing instead… remember tevez was an integral part of last season.. when we were free flowing, dynamic, goals a plenty.. this year berbatov is in and we are not any of the above.. coincindence??? i for one dont think so.. i agree you have to keep improving and changing, but not to players like berbatov.. its been a massive mistake and he is the biggest flop ive ever seen at united.. at least veron tried his heart out and things didnt work out for him.. you could handle that, not the laissez faire attitude of dimitar i couldnt care about united berbatov
hustler
top post mate..
sell him, sorry, thankfully we just don’t have to buy him…
He will be forgiven IF (and that’s a mighty big if) he does the business over two legs against Arsenal in Europe and hopefully the final. We didn’t spend £30 mill on a forward to set up goals but to fucking score them. I started to believe he was about to come good and hit a rich vein of form around early February but it didn’t materialise. His penalty smacks of over confidence the man believes he’s world class but who really believes him. I look around at the top 4 all of those clubs have forwards in good form (arse-adebayor ,chel-Drogba and Liv-Torres) and I ask myself why haven’t we seen Dimitar have even one game this season when he’s torn the opposition to shreds. Anyroad it’s down him now I think most reds have been patient with him now’s has to be his time to shine and show us his value on that side.
I’ve also got to mention today was probably one of the worst atmospheres I’ve ever witnessed for such a big game with the shirts. Utterly disappointed with our support today who seemed full of piss and high spirits walking up Wembley Park but became deaf mutes inside. The blue bin dippers deserve credit for their support, our fans need to have word and start backing the team much more vocally than they have been recently away fans included. It’s a cliché but we can pump the lads up and be a 12th man that’s not give those cocksucker abu’s the chance to sing “Fergie’s right their fans are shite”. Roll on Wednesday
Jake
if you thought that then you clearly did not know the personality of that idiot.
keanesmagichat
dnt you find it hilerious we have the berbetov fanboys come on here and throw pethetic stats at us that we have concieded less goals when he has been in our team he has been more creative, and we can throw stats at them by saying we won 2 league titles 2 league cups a eurpean cup and a world club cup without berbetov, another stat we scored more goals played greater football then when he was not with us. we were champions when he was not with us, another our defence has looked better wince beckham was sold. another ronaldo scored 65 goals in 2 seasons when berbetov was not with us.
DanS: “Looking forward to reading Denton Davey’s response.”
Cheers, M8. Most of what I would have written was in Newton Heath @ 22:40.
I’m “guardedly pessimistic” about this signing. Berbatov has, so far, been “subtraction by addition” – the attacking style has been changed so accommodate his languid style. It’s not been pretty to watch. He’s also been the reason why Carlitos has been demoted to a fringe role and will probably not be re-signed on a permanent basis after the end of the season.
A few people have written that UTD’s attacking game was at its recent best in the year that LouisLouisHaHa played a lot – the year after Ruud was flogged to TheVirus. It’s been a huge shame that Saha couldn’t stay healthy; if he had done so then I think that this team would be much better than it is currently, it would be more enjoyable to watch, and the money that’s been spent on Tevez and Berbatov could have secured a really top-class midfield monster like Michael Essien.
What we saw today was not just a glimpse of the future in the Welbeck/Kiko pairing but also a kind of “deja vue all over again” in that their up-tempo game brought back memories of the most successful striking partnership of the SAF reign – Dwight Yorke and Andy Cole in the late ’90s. These two kids are really special and I’m hoping that they get the playing time they deserve – in front of Berbatov. If so, then Wayne Rooney can also play “in the hole” where he is most dangerous and CR can be allowed to be a floater, which is what he is most dangerous doing.
So, Mr DanS, my view is that buying Berbatov seems to have been a mistake and is partly explained by SAF’s hope to raise the team “to another level” (to quote a cliche) and partly explained by the fact that by winning the Double last year, there was quite literally money-to-burn. And, that money is burned a hole in his pocket where he keeps his transfer funds.
I suppose that if UTD repeat this year and get a huge dollop of ca$h for their efforts then SAF will get more mad-money. Roma are skint – and Roma are out of the CL. Money talks, bullshit walks. I hope he uses it to buy Daniele di Rossi – and bugger the cost !
micheal i said it myself.Stats don’t mean a lot but they might hint a thing or two.You talk about the World Club Cup.Then i might say that with Berbatov out of the match,we lost 4-1 to the dippers.None of it matters.I find these stats more useful than comparing this season(which is not over) with the previous ones.If we do end up with the League and the Ch.league,will thay make a difference to the way you feel about Berbatov?
I dont like to slate our own players, and i definatly dont think Berbatov should be used as a scapegoat for losing today because anyone can miss in a penalty shootout, but the reason so many United supporters get frustrated with him is because of his complete lack of effort people said he was going to be our ‘new nistelrooy’ difference is Ruud scored plenty of goals.
Berbatov failings arent what annoys me its the way in which he fails, without putting in any effort at all and his penalty today pretty much sums him up.
I was supportive of him when others slated him at first, i thought he’d come good after he hit some form scoring winners against Bolton and Boro, but i cant see what he brings to our attack apart from slowing it down, he’s only usefull when we’re defending a lead and need someone to hold it up.
He needs to put in ALOT more effort and i dont mean he needs to become like Tevez and Rooney he just needs to fucking get his act together we cant afford to be carrying players at this time of the season.
michael
stats can be used anyway to further their point. as you said anyone whos is a fan can see that we play worse with him… maybe sir alex will have a word and his performances will improve, but i doubt it because as you said thats not his personality.. he was never a united fan with a love for the club, he wanted to come for selfish reasons id say.. so he could play champions league, so he could win the league… sell him sir alex
denton davey
look at hargreaves anderson nani all that money could have been secured for essien but thats looking back. ferguson has once again wasted a fortune on an average player when there were far better out there, I will keep saying ronaldo rooney tevez was good enough this season who could have helped the young players. not have a disruptive idiot in berbecrap who is awful awful awful
well, I wasn’t really concerned with personality comparisons, it was more to do with influence on the team…I’m still holding out for it, everyone is underestimating his intelligence and his ability to self-analyse, Berbatov more than anyone will want to improve and prove doubters wrong…you don’t become as good a footballer as he has by settling for what you’ve got or what you’ve done, he’ll come good, he’ll make sure of it because he’s got too much class not to, if that makes sense…
I don’t hate him… I think he supports our play great..nice touches and passes..
We just need more from him now. He can’t just drift in and out of the game..flirting with getting involved.
We need more urgency from him and more direct play.
denton davey
good points mate, i presume sir alex will buy a centre midfielder this summer..
what aboiut barry from villa on a free? it would piss off rafa and he is just what we need.. on berba, get him out..
what a fucking lazy penalty, you guys wouldnt be interested in denilson? you can have silvestre for free if fergie takes denny lol
arsene wenger
fancy berbatov, we will pay you
Good post Scott. I’m a big fan of Berbatov and I think it’s very odd the almost sadistic pleasure some ‘supporters’ take in slagging him off. It seems they enjoy that more than winning. Yes it was a dreadful penalty but until recent years United were always poor in penalty shoot-outs. Berba’s a class player and in time the team will get more out of him. He’s a bit like Teddy Sheringham in his first season, who also took lots of abuse (mainly because he wasn’t Cantona). All our players from our feeder club, Spurs, take time. Carrick was the same too.
I agree with the comments about our support at Wembley. Plenty of arrogance up Wembley Way, zilch when it mattered. It really annoyed me when one fat baboon was abusing some young Everton fans in front of his own little kid, yelling, ‘You got no f*****g history, you c***s! Everton’s got no f*****g history!” Everton no history?? Jeez, what a shameful moment.
we will take berbatov and you lot take denilson and the 10 year old redbull addict we had in goal and you have a deal
costas
its about performeces thats what they are payed for isnt it, 07/08 we played some of the finest football, we had veriaty magic ideas and veriation and we could hit teams on the counter. its troops going out onto battle and making the difference and I would not trust berbetov with my life. oh yea berbetov fan boys remember the link up play between rooney and tevez against middlesbro, look at the team against boro in oct 2007
vds
brown ferdinand vidic o shea
hargreaves anderson
ronaldo rooney tevez nani
that was a dynamic 11 with pace legs and class. and they were flued
giles oakley
i slag him off not for pleasure but because he deserves it.. teddy cost 3.5 million, and tried his bollox off, didnt play all the games and certainly was not first choice.. berbatovs attitude is a disgrace to the jersey.. as Gary said, spurs fans hate him, bulgaria fans hate him.. why? because he is a lazy twat… carrick was not as poor as this fella was neither was teddy… not even close
We really miss Brown and Hargreaves this season, it wouldnt effect Berbatov’s play but it would have a big effect on the team if we would of had them two available.
arsene wenger you stuff Liverpool and well take Denilson,Fabianski and even Lucic if he still plays for you.Giles is right about penalties.Throughout the years we have been poor.Remember Scholes poor strike against Arsenal.
dnt forget we can use nani giggs park on the wings and use ronaldo upfront with tevez, ronaldo can play right left and striker so ronaldo not only is he a first 11 but he is a plan B if a rooney or tevez is injured. so we are never short of a striker when we had 3 already
Rooney is the new Cantona.
We just need another Solskjaer.
ronaldo is our target man and our poacher because he is a greatheader of the ball and his goals style is of a poacher look at half his goals so we did replace van nistlerooy with ronaldo.
the thing about berba is he is emotionless,he has no expression of even dissapointment,bit like our own alexander song,but he has improved and denilson turns like a tanker running from somali pirates so we dont mind now lol,it wouldnt seem so bad if he even looked ashamed after that backpass to old timmy’brrrrrrr woopwoop ding ding brrrrrrr’howard
i tell you what costa,wenger threw it against chelsea, bad selection, but we should have our best possible fit 11 out there at anfield, arsh and nasri and theo with ade,thats the four that are gonna end the hopes of that non footballing bunch of wallet thiefs
Apparently Berbatov will miss Wednesday — he pulled a hamstring on A Question of Sport
i remember that pual scholes miss, USA USA USA an he missed it, great players miss penaltys but at least make the keeper look good and wor, thats the rule!
In some ways, Berbatov is an tragically unfortunate player. I feel that he does care about the team, but just expresses it on the pitch in the wrong times. When our team is back-peddling to defend opposition attacks, he’s nowhere to be seen because he’s in the opposition’s half. Yet, when we seize the initiative and counterattack, he’s nowhere to be seen as well because he’s backtracked to defend in our own half! I can’t recount how many times we’ve countered with just one solitary figure in tevez/rooney/ronaldo racing away, only for no support to be found anywhere up the field. It almost seems as if he doesn’t want the responsibility of scoring. We all know he doesn’t have the pace + power to be a dynamic all-action striker. So he just needs to be smarter in making the appropriate decisions; SAF will need to help him work on that.
I am concerned about SAF’s supposed hairdryer treatment, though. So many players have been making needless, risky, and costly mistakes and have been playing to a poor standard (relative to their true ability). The reserves playing much more attractive football than first-teamers today is testament to this. Yet SAF only targeted Ronaldo, and many weeks (months, even) too late in my opinion. But then again, SAF knows what’s best. He’ll sort it out.
micheal i think that the difference between this season and the previous one has been the absence of Quieroz.Even without Berbatov in the team we haven’t been as fluent.And don’t use the term Berbatov fanboys.Everyone here is a United fan and many of them support every player that wears the red shirt.Even Berbatov.
berbetov is not in ronaldo rooney and tevez league and thats a fact
its always a bad decision to take penalties with your own fans behind the goal as well, id rather bury one in the opositions face, rio should have chosen first penalty and aim at the oposition support
costas
I used that word fanboys because despite him being just aweful ppl then come up with stupid stats to try and justify him being here when they have no legs to stand on. ronaldo rooney tevez made our attack so powerful and they are all young and fast
Well your own fans don’t wave their hands at you all the time arsene wenger.I think we have been lucky to have most shootouts in front of our own fans.Today was not the day.And hopefully you are right about Tuesday.But be careful!From what i hear,Kenny Dalglish might return to ANfield!
“I can bet berbecrap will not score in any champions league games because he is average and useless”
Michael, Berbatov is our top scorer in the Champions League.
Tits like you know nothing, you jump on this bandwagon started by shit papers like The Sun.
Yes Tevez runs around a lot and he’s a fantastic player, one I wish stays at the club but I’d rather Berbatov in our starting line-up alongside Rooney.
As for the comments about why didn’t Tevez take a penalty. He was fifth in line.
I bet there are more tevez shirts united fans wear then berbetov, I bet he is one of the lowest shirt sales on the market
kenny dalglish will get another a micky thomas from theo, let him return, fergie is the only jock gettin respect now
Adam i agree with what you say.Tevez fifth in line was a mistake and i think it was one more move by SAF(Berba or not) to prove that we don’t need him.Fifth penalties are often useless because the tie is sealed by then.Anyway,what’s doen is done.Hopefully next time we will stop depending on penalties so much.
Adam
LOL check the teams he scored against, the great players step up to the plate in the big games ronaldo rooney tevez torres kaka messi etoo henry berbetov is like a little lost sheep he is out off his depth and thast a fact
SELL BERBETOV
arsene wenger hope so.Btw the Semis are more crucial now for both of us.We have both lost out on the FA cup and especially for you,it’s your last chance at a trophy.
Giles I think our support home and away is becoming a joke. At Old Trafford it’s a case plenty noise in the bishops blaize then going inside and instead of singing it’s a case of slagging off players calling em all the names under the sun and acting like spoilt brats. At aways especially this season and particularly today I’ve noticed a rise of in fighting between us reds. they’re seems to be quite a spiteful element (young lads and grown men) among our current away fans that think they can start kicking off at anyone and act like complete wankers to other ordinary match going reds and its not on. I still love following the shirts away from home but I really hate these wanna be hoolies sniffed up and boozed up playing pretend hard men because they’re away from home. It’s pretty sad when you see a group of our fans start on one of our own for no apparent reason.
costas,its our last chance thats for sure,idealy a result for liverpool tuesday could keep you lot working harder in the league games makin you a bit more tired from playin,but we hate the non footballing allardyce in disguise benitez, so were gonna defeat liverpool, we got less options in our squad for the champions league so less mistakes for wenger to make,our best player this side of january cup tied,you lot will meet our best team,if it aint good enough at least the cheque book should open in the summer for once
thank fuck for a coherent and well thought response to the situation. sum it up perfectly
scott that is
It’s only the odd goal that makes him worth anything at all – way too many matches when we’ve effectively been playing with 10.5 men. Sure he didn’t get 90 mins today and there were others who were anonymous for the whole game but to put so little effort in to his game and into the penalty is just not good enough. I’d be happy if he never wore the shirt again – he adds nothing. Hope he goes in the summer, if he stays then all we can hope for is a big improvement.
this has been a strange season for slaggin off players, the emirates has been such a frustrated place,i find it hard to beleive it happens at old trafford with all the success but everyone wants to be entertained as well,maybe you guys need an eboue on thr right wing an replace berba with ronnie up top
arsene wenger you know i have also wondered whether you would allow Liverool to win to keep us on our toes but i never did again.That only happens in Championships like the Greek one.I am not confudent about the Silvestre-Torres pairing but Mickael once in a while performs well.Goodnight to all!
arsene wenger
berbetov is the reason why we have been poor and thats a fact I hate the guy to death
He has the ability but he just annoys me with his attitude,like he’s never all that bothered one way or the other. Yes he has a great touch and can control a ball dropping outta the sky,but he slows us down so much. Every so often I’d like to see him play a ball out wide and bust a gut to get in to the box for the cross,but he seems more content to stand back and admire his own pass. Was anyone else watching him walk up to take the penalty thinking he’s gonna roll this? Fucking ridiculous penalty. With them missing their first Tevez should have been first up for us,if we’d gone ahead they wouldn’t have caught us.
On a brighter note Rio & Vidic looked great again today,long may it continue,and at least it’s the fa cup we’re out of and not the champions league. Can’t wait to get over for Wednesday’s game,Pompey could be in for a spanking!
costas we cant afford to lose 2 games on the spin,were a confidence team not a convinced result grinder, were goin anfield to take the points, silvestre well he could prove to be the signing of the summer still,who knows
anderson8
which shows fergie loves berbetov to death to let him take it first. fergie at times is tainting his success no wonder FC united fans are annoyed at him when he defends the glazers who are eating the inside of this club 2 death
berbatov is a good player,he is just frustrating,simular to van persie, he has all the talent but seems like no one benefits from playin with him, its a strange one and i think personally man united will reshuffle in the summer either to sell berba or to cancel tevez and buy a striker suited to play with either berba or rooneyyy,who would you guys like to buy?? you lot have got a lot to look forward to, us lot well we aint gettin no household names,probably some kid from africa who aint even played first team for 11 brothers of namibia yet
michael he has to say the correct things regarding the glazers, they pay his money, he cant bite his employers, even though he is huge he is employed by these people,football politics is a tough thing, no one can diss fergie,oneday that man will release the greatest book ever
@ Michael. Guy, if you could write at least half coherently I think we’d still consider you opinions of little importance. Go take a few lessons in remedial English and get back to us, okay?
Berbatovs penalty was poor.
I didnt question too much Fergies Team Selection. They all played with alot of energy which canceled Everton out! We have the Premiership to Win and with Rafa’s comments i think this is one that he doesnt want to loose!
The stick i used to get from pool fans about united not wining the league for 26 years, now the roles are reversed!
Even better than that we are approacing the number of times that Liverpool have won the league! If we overtake that then we only have to win a few more champions leagues and we will have had a more sucessful record! Job done
One thing i wasnt too hapy about was that Ferdinand and Vidic were taking penalty 2 & 3. I felt we had better options! With penalties it often is A who is good at taking them & B who looks most up for it! Who out of who is on the feild can you trust! Why wouldnt you trust these two! Ferdinands pen was at a nice height for the keeper but simular to one of the Everton Penalties although Foster went the wrong way for that one! Bit of luck!
I feel we that Moyles War of words about the refferee has done us out of a penalty! If it had been awarded against us i wouldnt have too much to complain about!
What striker would dive when they have an open net to put the ball into??? I ask you!
If you think about it, most of our main players have had a good rest for the Portsmouth Game! We need to win this to win the league!
you can argue about berbas penalty or his lack of drive. When he came onto the pitch i was pleased with what he did. held the ball up well, brought people into play! Was smart! Just not smart enough to hit a proper penalty!
I love Berbatov, he’s a touch of class. I am however, falling out with Park, he’s running around and everything but he’s bringing little to the team, very little, it’s starting to annoy me that he does nothing but run around, when Tevez runs around, as he did today, he held the ball up well, played some decent passes, he had an okay game but didn’t have much support around him. I love Tevez and Park I used to have alot of time for but I hope he sorts himself out.
I love United and will show support for every player especially Berbatov!
Berbatov is not a united player, he has a long way to go to prove that, United always had and have hard working players that run the whole length of the pitch, especially the strikers. Cantona was one with sublime skills, did he ever walked abt and tapped the ball, Berba needs to get stuck in, he needs to take shots at goal and pressure the keeper. By now, everyone can read his game and knows he is just gonna look for a player to pass the ball rather than take on defenders or shoot at goal. He needs to be a striker. The penalty typifies the kind of footballer he has been, and i dont think faithfull mancunians likes that kinda player. we need grit and from the front like what rooney and teves, it fires u up to go all the way. Imagine seeing berbatov walking abt when ur a goal down. It just gives out the wrong signals on the pitch.
I thought Fergie brought Berba here to complete his dream team. He brought him to be a striker who score goals, a Ruud-type of player. I know they both are a different player… Don’t get it wrong, I don’t hate Berba, at least I like him when he play for Spurs… We don’t need an assisting forward as we already got Rooney and Tevez… I like United game without Berba-the counter attacking team like last season…
I have always stuck up for Berbatov with my mates but today just ruined it for me. The penalty was a shocker!!! So poorly executed for a striker and he did f**k all after coming on, it showed that we actually MISSED Macheda when he came off! Not the 30 million striker we thought Berbatov would be……………….gutted!
We gifted the FA Cup final to the toffees…wrong team selection, bizare penalty takers selection, i cant believe utd pick ferdinand and vidic for taking penalties instead of the likes of scholes/gibson/tevez/welback or even rafael…and how careless berbatov were with his kick, absolutely unacceptable/disrespectfull…how ridiculous Mr Mike Riley was with the penalty decision that was strongly influenced by Mr Moyes’s pre match conferences..
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I AM PERSONALLY MORE DISAPPOINTED THEN ALL YOU GUYS AFTER THIS RESULT. FROM THE BEGINING OF THE SEASON I HAD MY PROFILE NAME ON ‘Republic of Mancunia’ AS “Minhaj> Quintuple on the corner”, and after the match now i had to change this profile name, sadly
So its my first time writing on this website but I am an avid reader. I’d like to begin by stating that I am a manchester united fan and have been for as
long as i remember. Subsequently, today was disappointing to say the LEAST, but lets not get carried away with it all. I’ve been defending Berba since he joined and claimed that his lack oh goals (if he has one) has been made up by his assists and the touch of class he brings to the team. I don’t doubt that he has the ability to succeed in the team but what is really riling is the lack of desire he shows when he plays. United is a religion and when you consider the millions of people who would give an arm to play for united, you would think someone given the chance would grab. I think its time he realizes that he no longer plays for a rubbish team like spurs and bayer. No longer can he just show up and be the best player in the team. I think he needs to step it up a notch. HOWEVER, i think its ridiculous that fans can even consider booing him. Do you really think that will be the factor that urges him on. If we want to win the league and the champions league we need our team to be together, to play together and to work together, and for that to happen we need to get behind the team. Also wouldnt it be wise to wait for his reaction. Maybe he’s realized his mistake and from the next game on he shows his mettle. Either way Berba is a United play and as long as he wears the red jersey i think we all need to be supportive.
Also additionally, MICHAEL i think your comments regarding SIR Alex are laughable. Seriously mate have some respect, how can you question his decisions when your probably only a fan because of the success he has brought the club. Step it up mate. Support the club not your own little whims!
Any hows thats just my two cents. Hope united go on to win it all and Berba redeems himself. I for one will only be too happy to apologise for ever doubting his talents.
I hate this clown berba too..total useless…shows lack of respects…100% careless…ego…
I like berba, but for the last month he’s been nothing short of crap. For the last 3 matches he’s been (surprisingly) a complete waste of posetion. Missed one-touch passes that could’ve been simple and going awol when there was a cross have wasted tons of united chances that Tevez and Rooney together used to use to trash the oposition. I still like him, but he’d better start showing what he did during december-january, or we may have wasted the money that we could’ve used to buy Carlitos.
at least keanesmagichat has calmed down is talking some sense. michael you need to rid yourself of some blind hatred here. We do not need “fans” who kill our own players
Berbatov is a piece of a puzzle, something Sir Alex has yet to master. His position in the team is very different to the one that he was so successful with @ Tottenham. So I’d give him the benefit of a doubt. I have something to say about Tevez though.
Yes we all love someone who gives his all, running all about, chasing everything. Last year, this way was good because, wherever Tevez ran away from, Rooney covered, making them look like they are linking up well. This year, with Berbatov in the team, we need to be playing a more fixed formation rather than the interchanging formation we did last year. This is where the problem comes. With Tevez running after everything, it messes up the formation. Take this game for example. Tevez was turning up on the left a few times, together with Macheda & Welbeck, clamping down the play to the left side. Would it not be better to attack the right? With Baines & Pienaar always pushing forward, to attack the right would have been the way to go, but Tevez was hardly there. Our formation this year requires more tactical discipline, something Tevez is not helping
Of course I am not critisizing the bloke, the problem lies with the management, for failing to find a proper way of play. I support Berbatov, but I am horribly annoyed to see him on the flanks rather than upfront. Is it his fault? I don’t know, maybe the coaches told him to do it, maybe not. Even if it is because he drifting by his own accord, it is the responsiblity of the management to shout at him, something they didn’t do, making it seem like they told him to be there.
My point, it is the management’s fault Berbatov is not playing as well as he can.
That’s my opinion
I had a bad feeling we’ll get knocked on penalty kicks, & it proved to be so. So it will be a bad start to the work week, but if we win the League & CL, all is forgiven.
Berbatov’s mistake is that he chose to shoot on the middle and worst it doesn’t have power. But anyway, I love the way he played during the match. That’s the time when he created a lot of chances to the attackers but sadly they can’t finish it well.
Tim Howard is good in penalties, still remember his brilliant saves during his years in United.
Mike Riley!!! Believe it Or Not! No penalty for United unless they bleed or broke their bones. What an ass!!
U lot make me sick, what about the times berbatov has scored vital goals 4 united?
what about the times he has put in the performances we needed in order to be were we r now?
Chelsea 3-0, Berbatov was outstanding that day, he put in the kind of performance Cantona n the likes ov would have been proud of.
Spurs 2-0 FA cup, he n Carrick alone made Tottenham look shit, their interplay was of the best in the world and in my opinion, Rooney n Ronaldo have fed off his input, his calmness in front of goal, the fact he doesn’t panic when it matters is what we need at United
You people need to stop being so fickle and get off the damn band wagon, Berbatov is one of the best strikers in the prem, his own record proves it. Yes he may be arrogent, yes sometimes he is prone to not chasing a lost cause, but was Cantona and Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke and Teddy Sheringham not the same? even Ole Solkjaer never chased much down yet he is a legend at united….
You people need to get back to the real world. Berbatov is the ideal big-match player and when we win the league and fingers crossed the champions league you lot will all be eating your words you bunch of fickle TWATS!!!!!!
I am not going to get all upset that he missed the penalty. He played came on and did well and Howard barely got his feet to his shot. Bottomline it would have been great to go through but I was pleased with the overal performance of the team. It is not just Berba’s fault but he is taking the blame which shows his class. He says the right things and in my opinion works hard for the team. I am sick of the crap he has had to deal with because he is a world class star. I didn’t think at the time it was a good decision to bring him in but he has all the quality to be a big player for United. Considering this is his first season with United and he is an assist leader in the league I have no complaints.
I felt we played well today. Our young guns stepped up and did everything but score. United should have been given a penalty and Jagielka should have been sent off. He took away a tap in for Wellbeck and if I am going to be upset at anyone its the referee. It would have been a harsh red but he was the last man and that was a clear penalty. Speaking of Wellbeck, he played fantastic today. He was our biggest threat but sadly his best chances fell to his left foot. Our defense was stronger and we seemed to dominate the game without an end result.
We were unlucky not to win but PK’s are mostly luck and the luck was with Everton today. Hard to be too upset when your in first place, playing in the CL semi’s, and still has a chance of bringing four total trophies to the cabinet. At this point I want to tie Liverpool which would be sweet considering they are our closest rivals in the league.
I want more from Berba but I am certain he will come good in the end. Bottom line all this negativity when United are in good position to win two more trophies seems absolutely ridiculous! If anyone boos anyone of our players it would be a disgrace. It would be shameful for anyone to boo our players while we sit on the edge of an historic season. We have chance of repeating as both CL and EPL which no one else can see, its about time we celebrated the season we are having than finding holes in every performance. Support the team and realize the players want success as much if not more than we do, especially Berba!
Great post Scott couldn’t agree more. Every player can miss penalty. They are based more on luck the anything else. I was really mad right after the game, but Berba shouldn’t be made into a scape goat. No one should be made into a scapegoat anyway. He is our player and he has done a lot already in this season, so we should support him through thick and thin.
Maik – He is coming off an ankle injury that kept him out a couple games. It takes a few games to get back in the rhythm of things. I think it is crazy to call his play tonight crap and he is far away from his performance being anything considered crap. He had some magnificent touches and set up some chances other players could not capitalize on. I don’t think his performance is the norm and I believe his form in Dec. – Jan. is the real Berba. I think Berba needs more time and for the fans to get behind him like he has gotten behind the club. He has said all the right things, brought the right attitude, has worked hard, played through injury, and has shown fantastic skill and form at times. He has not been consistent that is for sure but I am absolutely convinced he will come good in the end. I love the way he plays but has to learn that on occasion he has to go forward with more pace rather than slowing things down. If he can add that to his game he is going to be a great player for United.
I do agree that having him plus all this young talent will eventually lead to the departure of Tevez. I don’t think he justifies that price tag but if Berba does, he certainly does. He is younger, works harder, and is an extremely skilled player. This recent budding of young talent is Tevez’s problem. Wellbeck showed he could play in big games and perform at a high level. He needs work to on his left foot but he seems to have all the quality. Macheda is a future United megastar in my opinion simply due to his work ethic. His work ethic on the pitch carries over into practice and he puts in good long hours on the training pitch. This attitude can only lead to more development and eventually a fantastic striker. Not to mention I believe Manucho deserves more of a chance and Campbell has shown some promise while at Tottenham. Something has to give this summer and it will either be two young stars leaving and us signing Tevez or allowing him to leave and bringing in another position.
I personally feel we have to keep Berba due to what we paid and the fact no one will buy him for that amount now. I think it makes more fiscal sense and the younger players have earned the chance to shine in a larger role next season. With the money we don’t spend on Tevez we can strengthen our midfield and defense. With Hargreaves coming back after a long absence we should invest at center midfield and I personally think we need another utility defender but I am starting to believe we simply need to play Fabio more. He played well before getting injured today and has shown he can be a menace, like his brother, going forward.
Berba needs all the support rather than boo him at this stage of this season.
Shut up you wankers. We have been spoiled by the success that Sir Alex has bought to this club. It’s time that you give him the respect that he’s do and stop with the whining. We have won the Carling Cup and the World Club Championship. We are leading the best league in football with seven matches to go and current holders of that trophy. We are in the Semis of the top competition in European football and current holders of that Trophy and you have a go at the players and managers for loosing in the FA Cup semi-final.
The take away for you/me should be that we have in the three brazilians,Wellbeck,Macheda,Gibson and Foster and very bright future. They more then matched the season pros at Everton and we lost on penalty kicks. So F’in what?????
We play very key matches on Weds and then Sat and then Weds and then Sat and they will all have real impact on if we win the league and get to the CL finals.
The FA Cup is important yes–but tell me you would rather raise that trophy versus the League or CL trophy. I think not.
Raise your voices yes, but with support. The Cup is more then half full!!!!!
Thank-you Sir Richard—finally order has been restored. Come on you reds–give our boys your total support.
I feel Berba did quite well when he came on. Much better than Tevez. But I still feel that rather go for power than that cheeky shot. Given Cahill miss, if he had tuck it in, our confidence will be sky high n a blow to Everton. In the end, its the other way round.
The problem with Berba is that he doesnt take any shots in a match or get on the end of the ball in the box.He is never in the penalty box.Thats where the problem is.Our CF doesnt try to get a goal.I have absolutely no doubt he is a fantastic player,but he is not being used properly.I mean,whats the problem with berbatov being our CF and Rooney playing behind him as SS.We know Berba can score,but why doesnt he fucking try?
I just hope Berba finds strength within himself, to overcome this dark moment in his career and give his best for the team, when we need him the most. Important games are coming up. Him and the whole team need their confidence back.
The last thing we need is some people to destroy his confidence, because they don’t like his style or they have personal issues /I don’t know. maybe they were picked last in gym or were not hugged enough when they were kids, and now they hate others -to make themselves feel better/.
Great article by the way!
u guys come in here.. grumble about some weak penalty, wrong decision making, too relax, lazy, sulking, complain this complain that, u guys think u are so good playing at the top level football week in week out why dont u all choose football as a career path, see hw gd enuf u ah eh?
lets face it, penalty is a bloody lottery. the way sir alex set up the team shows that he is sacrificng the fa cup for the other two major important trophies. lets bloody face it. champions league compare to fa cup, surely we would have taken the champions league.
united fans have been pampered too much. all they want is success.. lets have humility for a change. the young lads did well against everton. at the end of the day complaining doesnt bring in positive. lets get back behind the team until the finish line. cmon u reds!
Berby’s injured. Ferdinand still has a haggling back problem. Vidic just returned to form. Rooney’s Out. Ronaldo’s not selected. Tevez is the shadow of the player we saw last year. SAF put up the reserves team to play against Everton. Plaudits to them, they put up a fight against the Toffees.
If both Berby & Ferdinand would have converted, maybe we would have won? But penalties are always a 50-50 affair.
With so many competitions to play the squad, even though it may be humongous, is subject to fatigue and loss in concentration. That is exactly what our team is showing right now.
If we start blaming a particular someone for our bad fortune we’re becoming what we’ve always hated – we’re becoming liverpool.
United do not need a striker who takes a beautiful touch in the centre circle. we need someone who will score from our fast counter attacks. Van Nistelroy was perfect for us. Berabtov is just too slow. He actually breaks our attacking momentum. And that penalty yesterday was awful. How can someone take such a big risk waiting for the keeper to dive and then wanting to tap in. Pathetic. Its the FA cup final at stake. I remember Tevez penalty in the champions league final. He too took the first one.Rammed the ball into the corner and gave us a perfect start. The first kick is so very important. It sets the tempo for the other takers. And please don’t say that he is another Cantona. Absolute disgrace and disrespect to the king.
Grow up!!!!! Reading this moaning crap is like having to listen to Talksport radio!!! Berbatov missed a penalty! So what?? Typical, one bad result and you turn on your own. Disgraceful!!!!!!!!!!!
Two things on Berbatov:
Firstly, arrogance is acceptable but only after hard work has been done. We tend to forget that Ronaldo actually worked very hard for his first 4 years here on improving himself – both his technique and his physique – and yet we still feel Ronaldo’s arrogance is unacceptable at times. Cantona had it too, but we never forget how hard he worked for the team.
Berbatov strolled in here and thinks he’s made it. He thinks the hard work has been done and he can just sit back and relax. That penalty was nothing short of a disgrace, but we all knew he was going to do something like that. Just fucking wallop it, don’t try and be pretty-pretty and do like Arsenal did before (and what we have started to do) and try to score the perfect goal. Put it in the net, we’ll discuss your options later.
Secondly, while Berbatov may be a striker on paper, all the work he does it at the touchlines around the half-way line. He needs to learn that if he’s not going to work hard, at least he has to stand up the pitch and be there when the ball is sent up there. There is no point in doing two fancy touches at the half-way line then being nowhere near the goal when a cross comes in.
Now I think he’s class and I have defended him time and time again, but even my patience is running thin and he needs to sort himself out.
It wasn’t that he missed the penalty. It was the casual way in which it was taken that has got the fans angry. Look, if you go ahead and blast the shot at the keeper or againt the bar and you miss then fine…you did your best, but luck went against you.
But berba casually walks up and just fluffs the ball right in the middle with the speed that any keeper in the world would have saved. Once again, it was a lazy effort that got people angry, and it was something we have seen increasingly from berbatov this season.
in the end i doubt it will mean he leaves. But after that performance, i’m really sad that citeh didn’t bid 40 million for him and he wasn’t motivated by greed.
We don’t need 30 million pound strikers like him who assist more then they score. We need a RVN.
well said Sean. no idea why Fergie has changed his position to attacking mf or SS.Berba will play a crucial part till end of the season
thank you Scott for your common sense! Cmon Berba! We love you!
I personally think that the real problem that the team has at the moment is that it lacks a genuine attacking midfielder who can run at defenders, dribble, link up with forwards and score goals (like kaka or lampard). i had hoped that anderson would do that stuff but because we also lack a genuine defensive midfielder (like essien) he seems unable to perform that kind of role and seems held back. carrick is a CM (half attack half defence), good passer but limited in attack and in defense. scholes does not have the legs anymore to join in attacks from midfield often. hargreaves has been missed alot. last season we were blessed with goals from ronaldo and the midfield but with the midfield not scoring as often as last season we have struggled for goals. we are not even creating as many chances at the moment. our dismal attacking threat this season is mostly due to this midfield situation. to sum it up, we need to find a solution to this attacking midfielder problem. we can play a formation like barcelona with rooney-berba-tevez upfront and park-carrick-ronaldo in the middle. this way we will have a balance upfront.
Bloody Hell. I was hoping for the Quintuple. now that we are out of the Fa-Cup i would like to point out that we are going to win somting next season. Fergie will have to go on medication next season because of the massive squad that he will have to pick out players from.
If we take out Rooney and Ronaldo out of the squad, we still have to starting XI that can take on most teams in the PL and not lose.
Van Der Sar
Neville – Nemanja- Rio – Evera
Park – Scholes – Carrick – Nani
Tevez – Berbatov
Foster
Da Silva – Brown – Evans – Da Silva
Fletcher – Anderson – Giggs – Tosic
Macheda – Welbeck
This is without Roonaldo and Rooney, Possebon, Hargreaves and O’shea.The 2. team is a weaker but does have a lot of skils just wating to explode. Yes we did get knoked out of the semi against everton, but our young lads gave them a fight. I bet United will be on for the Quintuple next season. with no no major Cup being playd the players will come back fresh and huning for more silverware. O the future is bright!
off topic, what time (UK time) is the reserve match today ?
“SELL BERBETOV?” whose Berbetov did we sign Berbatov’s cousin? Learn to spell his fucking name why dont you.
He has alot more fight in him when it comes to winning the ball he lunged into several tackles against Porto and was back in the full back position trying to get a tackle in during Jones goal for Sunderland.
And no his assists werent against “small teams” he had two assists in his first two matches against Liverpool and Chelsea. He had a piece of magic against West Ham which no United player is capable of…he needs consistency and I expect it from him next season.
Selling him will achieve nothing
Marq Said,
April 20th, 2009 @2:15
Even if it is because he drifting by his own accord, it is the responsiblity of the management to shout at him, something they didn’t do, making it seem like they told him to be there.
My point, it is the management’s fault Berbatov is not playing as well as he can.
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exacty my thoughts, mate, from another thread.
gopher brown – agreed not so much on the arrogance and his attitude which i have of no doubts but more so the fact that he isnt in the box when the ball’s sent in, i guess we’ve got to remember that he is first and foremost a striker and a point of attack for united and it’s useless if he keeps drifting off to the wings or back and not going back into the penalty box where we’ll need his quick thinking and sublime finishing.
it isnt about him missing a penalty but since he did, inevitably he’s going to be made a much maligned scapegoat and the argument of him being a white elephant would once again surface unlike some of the others here i do believe he has the class and the makings of a united player. He’ll prove it in due time im sure of it.
Well said Scot the Red Berbatov is class and we have to give players time. These other people are just idiots who dont know much really. And the people who were calling for Fergusons head, well that just beggered belief at the time!
Some place them, some blast them. Berbatov tried to place it.
Give credit to the keeper for making the save.
Agree 100%. I’m as much as a Utd fan as anyone on here but I still don’t even THINK that we should sell the big Bulgarian.
remember people that we do NOT need a team made up of 11 Rooneys. As much as I love the guy we need diversity. He will justify his £30m pricetag when we win the PL. Why? Without him almost 12 of our goals would be chalked off (assists) as well as all the important goals he scored late for us.
I still think Fergie doesn’t completely know how to utilise him. :S
Great article. Sums up my thoughts exactly. Berbatov is class and deserves better. It’s such a shame that some United fans can’t see the value he has for the team. I really hope he starts on Wednesday, as he seems more likely to produce and score than Tevez at the moment.
nilberg
how can you justify that comment? he seems more likely to produce and score.. how, when? the guy is a lazy twat… no character… a spurs player
berbatov is a world class player
he was when he scored a peno at wembely last year wearing white
and he still is when he missed one yesterday
delighted hes a man united player
support your team
we are manchester united, berbatov says, no mate roy keane, scholes, vidic, ole, charlton, law, best, giggs, rooney, neville are manchester united.. you berbatov are spurs…
And you call yourselves united fans, fucking disgraceful reactions.
On another note,( because honestly, what could I possibly hope to say about Berba that hasn’t already been said 100 times here today), any news on Fabio’s injury? Mother F I hope its not bad, he looked terrific out there and I wouldn’t hesitate for a second to throw him in to the deep end if Evra picked up an injury or something. Seriously, who on here would opt for O’Shea at LB against Arsenal over Fabio if Evra was out? Anyone?
And I thought Rafael looked class as well!! I still would have Wes as our first choice RB, but if he’s not fit for the Gooners in 2 weeks, I think SAF HAS to put out Rafael instead of Gary. Hate to say it, but Gary got roasted time and again when one-on-one against Nasri. And we’ve already seen Rafael own Robinho so who’s to say he couldn’t do it again??
Guys the enemy is not from within at this point.This right here is crap that we are going to have to deal with for the next 6 weeks:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article6128993.ece
God forbid we lose another trophy! What idiots.
get rid of berbatov hes a waste of space its like playin wiv 10 men wiv him , hes fuckin shit and i wanna smash his head in we are out of the f a cup coz of him
This article is spot on!
It’s really ridiculous to watch posters blame Berbatov for everything that’s wrong this seaon (them not being able to spell his name correctly should indicate that I’m getting frustrated at a bunch of, 1. Kids or 2. people who should not be allowed write anything on the internet)
There have been problems with our play this season, granted. But do you honestly believe that he is the source of it all? That our defence leaking goals in the games that followed the liverpool problems? And that the midfield did not dominate in some games? And that we haven’t scored as much as last year? And that we are our of the FA Cup? And that Tevez has been having a slow season. And that Hargreaves is Injured. And………
I do wonder how people would accept Cantona if he was a player right now that United just bought. I think the same people making the noise would probably slaughter him (It will be funny seeing the reaction to this statement)
Point is, stop being a spoiled brat, get behind the team and enjoy that our youngsters and hopefully our future team, just got a massive experience playing for United, we are at the top of the league and in the quarter finals in CL and have already won 3 cups/shields this season!!
Drew,both twins were great.Rafa was a bit rusty but he did come to life as time wore on.And he proved that he is as capable defensively as he is in attack.But i liked Fabio even more.I am afraid the boy can’t go on for more than 1 hour at this leven right now.Let’s not forget that both are still 18 and this is their first season at this level from a physical standpoint.
Hey guys,for something bad,there is always something worse:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1161440/VIDEO-SPECIAL-Dont-worry-Berbatov-penalties-worse-United-flops-FA-Cup-miss.html?ITO=1490
just saw berbatov taking culpability and admitting he let his team down on sky sports news, which is a credit to him.. he owes his teammate, manager and united fans big time… time for him to start rediscovering the drive that made him a good player at spurs.. take people on, take shots at goal, get into scoring positions and generally having a cut.. it just does not “happen” for players at united.. he needs to make it happen and show character that has been lacking in his united career to date
More crap: http://www.setanta.com//uk/Blogs/Simon-Clifford/04/20/Sir-Alex-showed-contempt-for-the-FA-Cup-/
“The best competition in the world”?Talk about paranoid!Did this idiot watch the “greatest pitch on the world” that we played in?What if Ronaldo or Rooney got injured?I for one don’t regret Fergie’s decision and i feel that these idiots should stop talking on behalf of United fans.It was them that were talking about Quitnuples and in the end loaded our players with complacency and it was them that have targeted United players when they haven’t done well for England.I have said it before.Having already won 3 trophies,the legaue will be just fine for me this season.And if we get to the Ch.League final for the second year running then it will be a bonus.Maybe we should have a poll and ask United fans if they really feel that Fergie “threw the quintuple away”.
costas, where is tiny tears penalty.
To be fair,those 5 were worse AJ.Don’t worry.I am sure he will give us another such moment sometime this season!
200 comment to say lay off berba
he’ll be wearing red alot longer than tevez will who tried and tried but did nothing really
Berbatov is a quality player, and he wears the shirt. I’m with him all the way, because whatever else he’ll want to do well for the team. Unfortunately he messed up the penalty, but it doesn’t make him shite.
Who he get in any other of the top four teams i dont think so, I dont Hate BERBA but he is just NOT good enough for UTD, The more we play him the less we win
get a grip.both rio and berba missed a penalty so why is it all bein lumped on berba??
i can completely understand being frustrated with his performances sometimes. at “tottingham” he seemed to be much more mobile around the pitch and you’d expect him to have taken his performances to another level since coming to us but for so called loyal reds to be calling for him to be fucked off is dim viewed and ever so slightly spoilt.
it’s up to lord fergie to get the best out of him and play him the right way. i for one am looking forward to seeing what he’s all about next season.
back to the game, gutted at getting beat but absolutely chuffed to bits at how our future looks. what other club in this country or elsewhere would have had the faith to play such a young side in a semi final? superb.
hope to see the benefits of players being rested aginst portsmouth.
HE IS NOT A WORLD CLASS PLAYER DONT KID YOURSELF, ROONEY IS RONALDO IS VIDIC IS BERBA IS NOT
i fully support berbatov. hes been a huge contributing factor for our title race and not to mention, in a phase when we’re having trouble scoring and taking control of games, he is the perfect player. hes a brilliant finisher in the sense that he knows exactly where to be at all times and when he has the ball outside of the box he can control it and give other players a chance to push up and make runs to create goal scoring opportunities. not only that he has verbally committed himself to the club many-a-times and having dedicated and driven players that want to win in times like this is essential.
on another note, IF the gaffa did “try” to throw this game, i dont know how angry i could be. the media have created a huge amount of pressure on our players by talking about the quintuplet. 2 seasons with 2 champions leagues trophies, 2 premier league titles, fifa world club championship, and the league cup, not to mention the best player in the world, and with the second premier league title, a scouse breaking record. obviously the idea of throwing a game is something i cant fully accept, but im just not sure how much bad this caused. our young players put up a great fight against a team that could have a solid presence in europe next year. to be honest we probally deserved a win. now its time to focus on the next premier league game and then the champions league clash with arsenal. WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED!!
Vidic and Berba is not world class? That is just not true, you are kidding yourself mate.
costas, that article is total ABU bullshit, can’t wait to read Piers Morgan in th Mail on Sunday next week might even top that bollox.
Spot on Scott! Can’t believe I had to scroll down through the mass crap from so-called ‘supporters’ just to write that! ‘…he is a cut above and will be absolutely class for United. Hopefully he will be given enough support from the fans to prove himself’ – good quote…
Enough of Berbatov. We have said our piece, and its up to him to prove his worth. Anyone here who says to ditch Berbatov without giving him the chance to see out the season, is a plastic fan. I’ve said it, I feel the problem is partly the management asking him to play a way not suited to him.
@ keanesmagichat. You have the most reasonable criticism of Berbatov, at least you are not hell bent on ditching him like michael, but just one thing, Berbatov is a United player, it is up to the management to help him find his form by playing him the right way. Or having a word with him, ala Ronaldo. So please stop saying he is a spurs player.
Veron was considered a flop by many, but how many of us realise the real reason for his struggles? He was always a deep lying playmaker, but when he came to United, there was someone by the name of Roy in that position. The management tried to accomodate an aging Keane, and the result was Veron being held scapegoat.
What I feel is, the management has to take 80% of the blame for this mess that is Berbatov, for trying to change his style when it was precisely his former self that was attracting us. When he was with Spurs, he was always part of a front pair, with Keane. When he came to us, much of the time, he was alone, with Tevez always running out of position, and Rooney dropping deep to get involved, isolating Berbatov up front on his own. Try observing the next match he plays. When he holds up the ball, tell me who is next to him?
Berba should have to donate his wages to charity until he’s worthy of recieving them.
leave berba alone idiots.
I didn’t think that critics against him will help him. We have to suport him he is a manu player We need a player like him which is tall and can keep the ball like he did. For me he is an important player for our club.
But it’s true that he’s penalty was pathetic but let forgive him like we forgive rio
goooooo manuuuuuuuuuu
I for one am glad you lost the penalty shootout. Ferguson disrespected the cup by fielding his reserves and it backfired bigtime. I think the corporation should also refund all those fans that went to the game as they had been cheated (even though they only had to travel back to london). Is this the point of the season where your season implodes???
Tevez has 3 goals and 2 assists in 24 apps this season.. 1 fucking goal in 8 games!
last time I checked berbatov had 8 goals and 9 assists in 28 apps.. which means Berbatov was involved in 17 goals in 28 games..
It was very frustrating seeing Berbatov yesterday, but give the man a second chance ffs!
What is the OP trying to imply by saying Berbatov wanted to come to United despite a higher offer from City ? Berbatov wanted CL football, pure and simple. Which is worth more than a few thousand quid a week to every footballer. If the point is that he has any kind of loyalty to United or that “he has the heart in the right place” then this is not the argument to prove it. He stands to benefit a lot more from playing for United than getting handed a check from City, money wise and reputation wise.
BErba even admitted that me messed up!!!!!
I quote sky : “I was looking for the goalkeeper and in the last moment he took the angle I was going for, so he saved it,” “It’s always difficult when you lose, especially when you miss a penalty and you let your team down.”
Fukin cunt!!!! What a terrible penalty kick and in my opinion we should have never ever bought Berba! Look at last season, we were more than alright with just tevez and rooney! What we needed Berba for was beyond me!
What awaste of 30 million! Absolutely gutted!!! Get rid of Berba now Sir Alex and take that money and buy a real striker like benzema, someone who has class and a killer instinct, someone who is willing to die for their team!
And for the last time fuck u Dimitar Berbatov!!!!!!!!!!!!!
COME ON U RED DEVILS!!!!!!!!
Honestly,SAF really treated the game against Everton like a friendly game by playing the reserve.Really if you look at the way the lads played,you will agree with me that there is hope for the future.But to be honest,i really hate Babertov……i hate every aspect of him…he holds on to the ball for a long time,does not chase to get ball and most of his shots are fibble.The moment i saw him going to take the penalty,i was quite aware that he is going to miss. SAF pls give Tevez more playing time because he shows more class than this your son called Babertov Fergusson
Ungrateful bitches, Berba is fucking class.
It’s only the FA Cup anyway..that shit stopped being important years ago..
It’s just a fucking excuse to rob fans these days..
We’re still in a good position in the only two that actually matter!
micheal you’re an idiot…you ‘hate berbatov to death’…do you know what I think I dislike? Morons like you who need to sort your life out, instead of getting all worked up about a football match, and have probably only been to a handful of united games, yet come on blogs like this to tell everyone you’re right…well you’re not, and then to wax lyrical about fans that support berbatov like they’re clueless, only then to quote that you think tevez has more shirt sales than berbatov is extraordinary…if you think we should sell berbatov fine, that’s your opinion, but to say you hate him etc is pathetic…this is an intervention mate, sort your priorities out.
BERBA IS CLASS !!! every player misses a pen, no big deal…atleast he knows what wearing the red shirt means unlike ronaldo….i dunno what this fuss is all about… for fuck sake give the guy a break… seriously lads, i think berba is more of a united player than ronaldo(who THINKS he’s at the right club)… and trust me ppl next season he’ll be our top goal scorer…
i just think berbatov is awesome but you cant score them all can you, so shut ya mouths about him hes a legend init BAMN! its all couss
Brilliant blog Scott – couldn’t agree more mate.
Keep fighting the cause for Berba – he’s a class act.
Hasnt done enough all season for me, whatever people say the fact is that he hasn’t performed well for us. His penalty yesterday typically told the story of him all season.
When he first came i was well pleased!! watched sky sports new all day and couldnt wait for to play. everyone i new turned against him but i still thought he was great then he missed tht penalty and then i just said what a waste!! Tottenham must be sat there laughing there head off. 30 mil for someone who doesnt care! Macheda cost nothing and when he plays he wants it sell him and get someone that cares!!!!
@ Nelly the Hammer…what the fuck are you talking about mate???
‘backfired bigtime?’ — yeah…using the team that we did REALLY backfired by us losing out on PENALTIES! which fucking game were YOU watching you muppet?
‘I think the corporation should also refund all those fans that went to the game as they had been cheated ‘ –unlike most other ‘fans’ from various prem teams, we didn’t moan and groan when we saw that team selection. We actually shared Fergi’s enthusiasm and were looking forward to see what our future players could do….and the answer? They made the Everton 1st team look quite average…I would pay to see that any day of the week…
people who dont know football dont like berba, people who do know football realise what he brings to united and how class and composed he can be and how pivotal he is going to be if united are to be successful this season and for the next few. I remember a pen he took against chelsea in the carlin cup final, exactly the same power (or lack of) and it rolled in, genius. Good article.
Its time to stop the excuses
I have defended him but that penalty was the last straw as far as I am concerned.
A lazy, pathetic, half attempt in an FA CUP SEMI FINAL, which failed to give us the momentum. It wasn’t that he missed that was the problem (anybody can miss a penalty), it was the lousy effort he put in to it. Its not thaty people are ‘against him for no reason’ Scott, its the fact that we have spent 30 million on him and he has done sweet all to show he is worth that. Can’t take the pressure? then United isn’t the place for him. Did Rafael and all our other youngsters deserve such a pathetic attempt from him? they worked so hard all afternoon and deserved at least a good atempt from the bulgarian! It would be different if that penalty was in playing time and Berbatov then made up for it with a goal but it was a penalty shootout. Worst of all, he didn’t even looked assed when he missed.
timbo five
do I give a damn how I spell, I will spell his name how I want to spell. you lot make me laugh and I thought the scousers were blind. if united dnt win the league I will blame berbetov. ronaldo rooney and tevez are class berbetov is average and thats a fact.
SELL BERBATOV
lets get this right 30 million for a striker who scores 13 goals, WAKE UP PEOPLE get your heads out of your asses and just realise he is garbage
It amazes me that people can be happy about the way we have changed our gameplay to fit in Berbatov, to the detriment of our two best players, Ronaldo and Rooney. Because he has to play in this stupid floating role where he should be influencing the game (and ultimately he isn’t at all, he’s completely anonymous), we have to chain Ronaldo to the right, and push Rooney right upfront or wide left. It’s fucking nonsense.
Let’s be honest, that penalty was atrocious, probably the worst I have ever seen. It typified Berbatov for me: weak, nonchalent, arrogant and generally lacking in care or attention. Fergie described him as economical, which translates as lazy bastard.
Scott you bang on about how he wants to play for the club, bashing Ronaldo for no reason (yet again) and even bring in Rio (which is astounding considering what he has done for the club). The whole article is based on speculation wages, when we should be looking whats happening on the pitch. HE’S FUCKING USELESS!!
Sell him and get Villa, Benzema or Eto’o.
I think if Berbatov was a school pupil, and his report was sent home to his parents… i think it would read… “Has the ability… but could do a lot better”…
This is how i would rate Berba’s season.. fantastic skilful footballer…just wanna see more from him.. see a bit more passion… a bit more ooomph..
I think he should be given another year…. i think he might be a bit overawed by OT and the club in all honesty…
Lets just see how he gets on after a good pre season… see if SAF can get the blend right to incorporate the way he plays… then we can judge..
But.. i will agree with the majority…i aint overly impressed… YET…
Fergi gamble on the youmgsters he should also allow them to take the penalty kicks and not asking stupid Berba and Ferdinand because they are not the regular penalty takers. United have Wellbeck,Teves, Gibson and
Rafael to consider. What a stupid decision to loose an important cup tie
like that.
lets get some facts people on this muppet
1 did he score nope
2 did he make a difference nope
3 did he create anything nope
4 did he run defenders ragged nope
5 did he test the keeper allot nope
any more for u ppl to say he is class you are just making idiots of your selves. ronaldo rooney tevez are class and thats a fact
SELL BERBATOV
Tevez is class above Berba, thats just not right I love Carlos but to say he is class and Berba isn’t that just incorrect, you can all call him lazy if you choose but he certianly has class and maybe before we judge him we should wait to the end of the season because his goals could win us the league and the Champions league.
North Stand Tier 2
and you know what people like you and me get bashed and called spoilt brats for saying he is garbage atleast we know our football. what was wrong with rooney and tevez upfront they are dynamic they score oals and work so hard for the team, we can stike ronnie uptpp to cover for rooney or tevez
I’m not the biggest fan of Berbatov but I think he really needs support at this stage of his career at Utd, not abuse. He’s obviously feeling the pressure that comes with being the most expensive player at the club and if he can begin to enjoy his football he will improve vastly.
I don’t think the guy is worth 30 mill, I’m not a big fan of players who drift in and out of games but I think he’s a better player than we’re seeing at the moment. Give the guy a cheer, boost his morale and cross your fingers to season two.
PS: the penalty was a disgrace, I knew he would do exactly that as he walked up to kick it but it looks to me a confidence issue. If he believed in himself he would have buried it.
PPS: Fair play anderson, how that kid has the balls to knock in penalties in CL Final, League Cup Final & FA Cup Semi I don’t know, especially when you take into consideration his shooting from open play. Amazing nerve for such a young man.
PPPS (Sorry about this) The comment about people who think Berb is muck don’t know anything about football is ridiculous and akin to the emperors new clothes, get yourself a better argument.
Stephen
check tevez first year with united and compare it to berbetov the gap is massive.
errr…..did anyone else notice Tevez not putting in his usual shift or was that just me? …funny how all the haters love a good ol’ scapegoat…Fergie doesn’t need advice from people who THINK they know what Berba is all about…you CANNOT ignore his contribution across the whole season just cause you want to get your pathetic point across for ONE game…if you’re gonna do that lets all slate Tevez ffs!!! actually, scratch that….idiots on here might actually do that (!)
I am not comparing seasons or the players ability all I am saying regardless of how Berbatov is playing he is still a class player, suitable for United certainly, not playing well no doubt but his ability is class.
I’m not a Berbatov fan at all.
But I will admit he has scored some valuable goals and has made some valuable contributions to winning games in both the Premiership and the Champions League.
Berbatov holds the ball up well relieving pressure on our defence and also can keep the ball and his passing ability is very good. But he plays so deep it’s like he is a creative midfielder. I failed to see where he would fit in the United team when we signed him for £30 million.
The problem is his body language on the pitch. We are used to seeing Rooney and Tevez and Park in and around the opposition getting stuck in. Atleast they try. This guy doesn’t look like he tries.
This guy sulked his way (Anelka Style) to Old Trafford to follow his dream but he doesn’t bloody look like he is living it does he?
I would rather have this guy at United than not.
Regardless of whether I like him or not.
The guy made a mistake but we can not blame him for the loss.
The team takes the win no matter who scores the winning goal.
The team takes the loss no matter who makes a mistake.
WE’LL NEVER DIE.
I find it quite astonishing that people want him out yet want Benzema (dreams to play for madrid) and Eto’o (if you think Berba’s arrogant you aint seen nothing) in the summer. What if one of these takes a bit longer to settle in? Sell them? I think eveyone should wait at least till the end of the season before writing him off.
also we are not Liverpool who sign a player in the summer and simply give up on them half way through, we need to judge Berba at the end of the season before really we should pass judgement.
micheal
Your a bit harsh arnt you fella!!!
When he did come on he held the ball up well. He brought other people into play! In my honest oppinion he did make a slight difference!
He did fail to his the spot from a Penalty which is some form of a dissapointment!
I think and hope that this might just be the kick up the arse that he needed! I am hoping to see the real berbatov soon! If not this year next season!
next season he will have no excuses! He will have had a good preseason, be fitter! Know his team mates! Etc!
His first season at spurs he was hit an miss then had an unbeleivable second season! Hope the same will be for us!
In short, if Alex picks him and thinks he can do a job then i will go with the big man says!
Only an Idiot Would Argue Against Sir Alex!! You going to be that Idiot Michael???
Trevor
did veron forlan djemba kleberson bellion work out nope. and I would not give him another game he should be booted out the door so hard he does not know what hit hi. you dnt break up a patnership that won the double. you are blinded in the fact that he is one of the worst players I have ever seen what is his game no serious what is it.
SELL BERBATOV
micheal: it must be michael, similarly its Berbatov & not Berbetov.
c’mon Berba !!!
Nothing like a patient fan, at least give him one season.
See, that’s the whole problem with football fans in general. The very first comment on this article by Michael – Is he a waste of money or a success?
I just think it’s ridiculous to be even asking that question about someone in his first season. Not everyone can have a first season like Torres did last year. And what is success for a £30+ million player?
And please let’s not forget, Berbatov didn’t set his transfer fee.
lofty @ 10:00 “gutted at getting beat but absolutely chuffed to bits at how our future looks. what other club in this country or elsewhere would have had the faith to play such a young side in a semi final?”
Best comment so far – along with NewtonHeath @ 22:40
wazza
berbetov berbatov who cares we all know what his name is, he has had a year and he is shit and thats a fact.
micheal Said,April 20th, 2009 @12:36 “…..at least we know our football. ”
From reading all your above comments, i have to whole heartedly, but respectfully, disagree!!!
it’s just shocking that our own fans are getting on Dimi’s back & want him out.
He’s a class act , a naturally gifted player and a cut above the only problem i see is his price tag(in that case too it was fucking levy cunt) & his style of play (in that case we all knew his style before we bought him so no piont in moaning about that now) . Berba has been very useful to us this season, his best yet to come & thats obvious. he has scored some vital goals for us in the league & would love it if he proves to be vital in the remaining part of the season and shut up many who are gunning for him badly
Just bad luck that’s all. We have been successful, this was just our time to have the tables turned. My opinion on this is that Fergie should of played a reasonably strong side yesterday. I don’t like him compromising one competition for another, especially where the FA Cup is concerned, the one competition I grew up seeing United winning, always gave me great joy seeing us win that. Berbatov’s class, just had a bit of misfortune with his kick. Let’s hope we get back to winning ways against Portsmouth on Wednesday.
He hasn’t had a full season yet and goald to win us the league and Champions league might change a few peoples mind, glad our board did not take that few all those years back when the banner “Fergie out” was unveiled.
Stephen
he has been carried by guys like ferdinand vidic evra ronaldo rooney tevez giggs carrick wo have been the real stars. he has done nothing he is the bigggest joke I have ever seen
it will be very harsh if we criticise berba for everything . yes the penalty he took wasnt good but its ok. every player has a bad phase. if we sell him then we will be no different to real madrid.it is just his first season we all need to be patient. he is a class player maybe not like a ronny but everyone cant be like a ron or kaka. i am sure both tev and berba will score many goals next season. LONG LIVE MAN U
micheal
if i am honest i was a fan of forlan! It was just unfortunitae for him we had to by rooney when we did! Fergie wanted to wait another season but we couldnt miss out on him. If that would have happened it would have given Forlan more Match Time.. Have a look at what he has done in spain! A quality Striker who would have been good for us! Just Unfortunite as there is no way he was going to Drop Van N and Rooney for him!
Veron – He was bought purley for Europe in mind! If you judge him on these games he was by far one of our best players! He ozed Quality! His problem is that he could not adjust to the pace of the premiership and always needed just a little more time on the ball than what the premiership alows!
Kleberson – Failed to make it! Little Lightweight for me, but can understand why fergie took the gamble!
djemba – Was poor, Although from watching highlights of him playing in france he did look spectacular! I think his inferior twin brother came over instead
Belion – Your getting close to the bottom of the bucket! Are you going to judge all the youth players that We try and bring through? I think we have been lucky with the youth players we have had! – Scholes – Beckham – Butt – Nev & Nev – Giggs… I dont think we have done too well!
Michael – How can you doubt Fergies Judgement when he has turned our club into what it is now!…… What a fool you are if you do!
With regards to players not cutting the cloth! There are players in every team in the prem that has them. Name a team that doesnt and i’ll buy you a pint!
He looked class at tottenhem. I was happy we bought him. But he has not given us back the entertainment and joy we wished. It looks he is overdoing it. Its good that you slow the game for other to take breathe but what if someone ran out full throttle anticipating a quick pass and you get the ball take a u turn and pass it to michael carrick. When you are through on goal you hit the brake . When you are given an opportunity to shoot you shoot like a kid. Last three weeks we have been looking for morale booster after liverpool drubbing and we have just somehow been in all the tournaments. Now was the time to prove your worth and You take a penalty kick which shattered the improbable dream of quintaple. When things are not going your way change your way. Mr. Berbatov look towards goal and try to shoot, paas in time . Lately u have started doing ronaldo , someone hits you you go down and refree doesn’t give a freekick.
SHOW US YOUR WORTH. Win Us premier league and Champions league.
“The biggest joke I have ever seen”, I have heard it all know mate, that is just sensational talk, I am not saying he has been superb this season but that statement is a rubbish, I will say it again judge him at the end of the season, at the very least.
man u kings
we should be like real madrid there and ship this tosser where he came from, berbatov should go home. I hate the bastard he will never come good and thats a fact
SELL BERBATOV
Michael
Work of advice for you!! Why not change the team you support!
Go support Liverpool cause at United we give our players a chance to prove them selves! What they did to keane was awful!
I will and i hope every other united fan does the same. refuse to make judgment on Berbatov until the end of next season!
1 year to adjust! 1 Year to Prove himself!
Evra & Vidic + Carrick needed the same!
Although berbatov has already played in the prem i think it still does take a while to understand our style of play and the players around them.
Michael
Its supporters like you i would ship out!… Go find another club we dont need supporters like you
We need supporters getging behind the team!!
your an idiot! You have proved it!
last year man utd did not have one passenger well I would give you saha, but the squad was balanced everyone was happy they new their role and the machine was moving well so we replace a quality striker with an average one paced muppet who’s goals record is one of the worst going. a dead man has more life then berbecrap, ronaldo rooneye tevez is united best frontline and thats a fact.
SELL BERBATOV. OR BERBACRAP
Good to see you are listening to other peoples opinions, can’t be bothered to waste my time with you.
Micheal
You are stephen Gerrard in Discuise! Piss off to the http://www.therepublicofmerseyside.com
Your on the wrong message board fella!
Trevor
and its working for liverpool which is ironic. like it or not benitez realised dnt change the shape to try and fit in another average striker well keane I rate higher then berbacrap.
SELL BERBATOV SIGN TEVEZ
They are out of both FA and European cups and have won nothing this season unlike us also behind us in the league, working well.
Michael, i think you are getting way over the top with Berbatov mate…
Yes… he hasnt done what we expected… but………he is a top top player… and you have to give him another year… to settle…to let SAF find the right combination in which to play him…
I think that Carlito will make way in order for SAF to find the right combination to fit Berba into the team… thats my opinion… he will use the money he saves on Carlito to by a striker that will complement Berba..
That will leave Wazza, maybe with Macheda as a potential partnership..
I dont think we can blame all of the result yesterday coz he missed a penalty..
Yes i wanna see more from Berbatov… and in time i reckon we will.. but comparing Berbatov to Kleberson or Djemba Djemba is ridiculous… they were awful…
Forlan wasnt a bad footballer… he scored some fantastic and important goals for us… he just didnt get it consistently for us… and maybe signed for us 2 or 3 years too soon..
Veron was a fantastic footballer, and i believe that we didnt have certain players who were on the same wavelength as Veron’s game, which ultimately cost him his United career.
I remember the last game Veron played, in a pre season in the US… and it was a fantastic performance… utter masterclass… and was a shame he was sold.
Get off Berba’s back… and get behind him and give him the support he needs…
He prob didnt realise just how big an institution United is… and coz we crave instant success, the pressure is on him…
But i just got a funny feeling, that berbatov is gonna do sommat that will be a very big factor in our success towards the end of the season.
B E L I E V E
Micael,
keep proving what an idiot you are!
Erm Whos top of the premier league with a game in hand? Liverpool.. i dont think so — Man U!
Is liverpool in Europe? … Erm no
Ahh Liverpool will be in the Final of the FA Cup…. Erm No again!
ERm Liverppol has already lifted a trohpy this season? Erm no That would be Man U with the Worthless Cup but still a statistic!!
So can you please explain what has worked for liverpool?
Yes they are on a fantastic run!..> But did united not go on a fantastic run also! I think we must have erm… was it 10 or 11 games without conceeding??? ERm
Anyway i dont think i am going to get through to you cause you only see what you want to see!
Id Rather have a scouser sit next to me at old trafford that a twat like you!
Trev, He probably has never been to OT mate.
I Beleive!!
i think baba is not lacky united win 4 cups liverpool finish4 place
Stephen – I dont think he even watches the games! Just gos by whats in the sun!
If its in the sun it must be real!
Stephen
I give my season ticket up and been supporting FC United, well they did crush us 4 1 like it or not. I enjoyed last season not this season mupppets
What a loss you have been.
Trevor
you know what you stick to your blind red tinted glasses state and the real united fans like me who know their football can see how rubbish he truly is. ronaldo rooney tevez is our best attack not berbetov in it.
Fuck off with your FC bollox… coz i follow ONE UNITED… and thats MAN UNITED…
Bet he has got a poster of Rhodri Giggs on his bedroom door lol
Michael.
Please then only comment on the team you support!!
go to
http://www.therepublicoffcunited.com
Bye!!!!
Its just like weeding the garden! Remove the Crap and the rest just blossom!!
Trevor
see thats why you lot know nothing about the game and ppl like me do. be happy wit berbetov because he sums up what is wrong with this club at times spending careless money on guys like hargreaves and berbetov.
is a fact this site knows nothing of the game when they rate berbatov has a class act even though there is ronaldo rooney and tevez upfront LOL
At least we stay loyal to our club… muppet…. fuckin do one ya deserting ship jumpin lob on.
Michael,
I usually respect everyones comment as a football fan has to have an opinion!
But what i have noticed from what you say is that you know very little about the game! So your opinion means nothing to me!
Im not even going to waste any more time responding to your little comments as i now dont find it funny anymore that someone can know so little but talk like they know it all!
your too good a support for even FC United! How about becoming an honourary scouser!! Im sure they will have ya!!!
Trevor
be happy with berbetov, and if u still except him for the rubbish he is thats fine be blinded
Jog on now you are not a Manchester United supporter so you views count for nowt.
If he fails Fergie will sell him. Until that time he is a United player and deserves our support. The team need our full support for the rest of the season and booing one player is not going to help anyone but Liverpool. I’m sure he is as upset as anyone else. Stop the vitiol and support the team – all of the team!
Ella
Stephen
haha you lot have shown you cant handle the truth, if united fail to win the league I will blame berbetov, if united fail to in the champions league I will blame berbetov.
SELL BERBATOV
No I am just prepared to give him time, and not fickle.
Michael,
are you in a lunitic asylum?? Do they really give you guys access to the internet!! God help us all!
Berbatov could score 3 hatricks in the league from now to the end!
He could score 2 hatricks home and away against arsenal single handedly putting us through!
Then score a hatrick in the final but get beat 4-3!
you still would hole him accountable!
Keep taking your pills and for god sake lets start a petition!! Remove Internet Access from the Lunatic Asylms!!
You will blame Berba is we fail to win the Champions league?, you are embarrassing yourself now, I would leave if I were you because you are in danger of making an even bigger mug of yourself, deserter.
I am coming round to his way of thinking now!!
If England Fail to Qualify for the World Cup… Im going to Blaim Berbatov!
If Gordon Brown wins the next election – Im going to blaim Berbatov!
If Alex Fergusion Retires as manager of Manchester United – Im going to blaim Berbatov!
If ronaldo Goes to Real Madrid! Im going to blaim Berbatov!
If United Next season does not win every competition they enter as well as the reserve & youth cups – im going to blaim berbatov!
If the wife has a headach tonight – im goin gto blaim berbatov!
What the hell! Its all going to happen! Why not Just Blaim Berbatov and get it over with!
Shall we hang him?? Stone Him or Crucify him and just get it over with?
Trev that is quality mate, Hillsborough was also Berba’s fault, oh yes and the two World Wars were also….
Not at all, why sell a player who can create so much.I m Sorry but this closed mentality is not right.People are too impressed and fascinated by speed that players like berbatov is becoming the shadow of united.Definetly Wrong, Berbatov is unique in his style of play, which is vital towards the squad.His holding up the ball, passes and creation of opportunities are excellent.We definetly need players like tevez and ronaldo in the squad however i touch of berba is also needed.Definetly berba should and will remain a vital part of united…COME ON BERBA SHOW THEM WHAT YOU VE GOT
Hang on one minute Michael… and i quote you on this “if united fail to win the league I will blame berbetov”
Well u aint got the right to blame anyone… coz u gave up that right, when you jumped ship and started following FC…
Your beginning to bore me now… aint u supposed to be back in school now coz the Easter holidays are over.
Berbatov looks indifferent to me. His penalty summed up his season in my opinion in that it lacked conviction. I do think he has quality and potential but he shows his “class” and “silky touch” in the centre of the pitch, not where he should be! Too often this season I have seen him amble in to the oppisition box when any potential threat has been wel and truely snuffed out. I would like to see him bust his gut to get into the box and try and make something as opposed to amble around the pitch and wait for it. Last season we hit teams on the break with pace and purpose, not this season though and I think Berbatov is somewhat responsible for this. He needs to adapt to the way we play and we shouldn’t have to change our formula for success, which has servrd us well in the last 2 seasons, to suit him. Give him one more season and see how he goes.
I thought when Berba came on at Wembley he improved us right away.He was bringing Patrice Evra in more and our posseion play improved too.
Getting on his back is just going to bring his confidence down and have a negative effect on the team and the club as a whole.
He’s our player now and we should back him,even when he plays shit.I think he has been great for us so far its just when he plays alongside Carlito and Rooney he looks a bit slower,but this is not a fair comparison as he is a com pletely different type of player.
He’s class and will become a legend…..
Grima,
Your correct.
Berbatov brings something differnt. His role is to come deap, take the ball while under pressure, keep possession and bring people into play. He is to be creative & score goals!
To be creative and score goals he has to learn the habits of the players around him as they all have certain styles. Once he gets accustom to how they play and what runs certain players make then we will see a better berbatov!
Being under pressure to win the ball in his own half, beat 5 players! get to the byline cross the ball then run into the box and head it in to score! To justify the price tag! Doesnt help!
Who cares about how much he cost! I dont! United Always pay over the odds on players.
Rooney – Carrick – Berbatov – Ronaldo – Tevez – hardgreaves – ferdinand
Yes i think the above was over priced.. I can forsee someone questioning ronaldo! But to be honest he was available for 6-7 mil until united paid Sporting what ever they wanted for him not to upset their agreement! keep them sweet as such!
I dont think Rooney has done enough to justify his price tag… Has the potential but alot of room for improvment in my eyes! But id rather have him with us than against us tahts for sure!!
Tevez – Good first season but i dont feel he is consistant enough, doesnt get his shots on target enough for me to be honest! is he worth 32mil?? erm no.. 20 mil yes! but we already have paid 8 mil on loan fees!
Hardgreaves – I think and hope he will come good… a fit hardgreaves will do well for us! Specialy next year when scholes will not be as effective (sorry scholesy, jsut your age is catching up with you!)
Ferdinand – Erm Should have been half that price specialy as leeds were in so much debt!
FailsworthDevil
arent u supposed 2 be back in school muppet, you lot are the berbatov fan boys be happy with the most useless forward to ever play for united. I can blame who I want I have the total support of all the players bar berbatov, I am happy has hell he is out injured that sums him up, a fairy who plays 30 minutes and he is injured the doc summed this average player up a disaster and he is spot on because thats what he is, if he was signed instead of tevez we would not have won the double. and I know 6 season ticket holders for 3 decades who all agree with me that this guy is average.
michael does your mum know that your on her 3payasyougo laptop??
Close the curtains the wag officer might be peeping in sunshine..
You FC Twat.. go away your boring us.
FailsworthDevil
you sound like more of the kid to me, aww in a tantrum because I hit a nerve because your fav player is blasted I bet you have posters all on your wall worshipping berbatov yu must love him LOL
Michael,
Why are you so upset with Berbatov.. He doesnt play for Fc United!
You talk about signing tevez…. Tevez probalby has never herd of FC United never mind signing for them fella!
You have issues! Mental Issues!
Go support Liverpool, You will be welcome there!
LOL @ Trevor @14:31!!!
tevez is a thousand times better then berbatov and thats a fact
SELL BERBATOV
stone him would be a good idea he will be moving much quicker then
Like most ppl I was amazed at how poor his penalty was,especially considering that the youngsters had put in soo much.
However I do consider Berbatov to be a player of fantastic ability.
And a player who will get better.
Yes there are times when tevez should be played ahead of berba,but in the main im glad we have him.It was similar to when utd signed Sheringham,and look what happened.
No, im ok with Berba,but not that penalty.
On the subject of those youngsters,great to see fergie give them the opportunity and the fact that they held their own for the whole game will surely stand them and the club in good stead.
Keeps me optimistic abt the present and more importantly the future.
Michael,
you wont be able to stone anybody you will see the big man upstairs before him You wont be with us much longer! Cause the amount of shit you have been talking today i am sure your going to drown in it sometime soon!
My god you guys are ridiculously fickle, Berbatov is class, for all you gimps that say he’s lazy, you’re idiots, thats his style of play. He doesnt need to sprint around like a workhorse because he has an amazing footballing brain. He has the best touch/control and positioning in the world of football. I’m not saying he’s the world’s best striker though. Just lay off him and give him a bit more of a chance, he’s already got a bag of assists that you guys have coveniantly decided to forget
its better that we do not respond to this micheal.cant even keep track of how much he has slated Berba in this topic alone.saying the same thing once & 100 times doesn’t make a difference
Trevor
I honnestly believe him being stoned will see him move faster it would be the only time he would be moving, and what big man upstairs what are you talking about.
Micheal, why do you care you fucked off and supported another team?, as I have said you have no voice here.
Stephen
and we fc united fans dnt put money in the glazers pockets
So whats that got to do with Berbatov and you? You do not support us so why are you commenting?
I support my club regardless and always will.
Michael… my fav player goes by the name of Wayne Rooooooooney..
I think you have a lot to say about Manchester United players… when u have clearly made your allegiance to FC..
What does the FC stand for … coz in your case its gotta be “Fuckin’ Crettin”
michael, you’re really starting to sound like a loser now. You don’t even think Hargreaves is good enough for United???
Anyway, you can bugger off now you simple minded little piss ant. Rory the Racing Car is just about to drive through the Night Garden and i’m sure you don’t want to miss that!
p.s don’t tell your mumy where you’ve heard all these swear words. She won’t be best pleased and will probably stop you from using this site. Not that we’d care though.
FailsworthDevil
in your case a fukin cu**, berbatov has made it personal when he makes united worse and his attitude is a disgrace. him being stonned would be the best entertainment from berbatov I have ever seen, I watch man utd games I dnt go too the games any more since may 2005 thats the difference.
marvsharpe
17 million for a player who spends 70% of the time on the treatment table yea real good bit of buisness. when a mascherano would have been a better buy who is younger and is always fit plus the same price
Michael, you are worst than a dipper & rantboy put together. You even got the Rafa syndrome, Berbatov has more goals & assists than Tevez, fact.
You support FC United, whatever that is. Now shoo, happy playing in non-league. Muppets like you are a disgrace
You’re right Michael. If only SAF would have looked into his Crystal Ball and foreseen the future.
You thick little idiot! Seriously, are you for real??? You must be on the wind up.
marvsharpe
hmm lets get this right, hargeaves was available on a free, he has a history of injurys so why continue to waste that money. mascherano stuck out like a sore thumb in the world cup 2006 and would have been a great help in jan 2007 before liverpool went in for him. ppl new hargreaves was injury prone before he arrived.
When was he available on a free?
during the 05/06 season and he would have arrived along with vidic and evra because he was out of contract in october 05
Michael just what is your problem??
Now i know lad… it must have been difficult for you… you know when you caught your mam getting spit roasted off Dimitar and Owen.. but eh oh… she wanted some Bulgarian Bollox and Canadian Cock…
Is there now way we can kick this little shite off here… coz he is boring the kahoona’s off me..
Michael u know about as much about football as i do about cross weave patterned cable knitted cardigans… (i just got that off the net by the way)..
No seriously Michael, you are a boring little twerp… do us all a favour and fook off.
Got to agree with michael on the subject of Hargo, he’s a sick note and he had been for some time before we signed him. The medical staff that gave him the once over should be fucked out the door along with Berbatov.
“Fuck off with your FC bollox… coz i follow ONE UNITED… and thats MAN UNITED…”
Spot on again Failsworth.
cross weave patterned cable knitted cardigans? What the feck is that,?? lol
Hargreaves is a fantastic midfielder… and if the tendinitis is healed… then you watch the difference in him..
Can anyone tell me about a game he played last year… and it was a poor performance by him???…. i cant remember one game where any said he was shit… coz he isnt..
Yes he has had injuries… but if what SAF says, and it is healed, then we got a fantastic player..
People used to say Giggsy was a sicknote coz of his hamstrings when he was younger… but they wouldnt say that about him now, after they cured is problems…
Hargreaves will be like a new signing to us next year… and we have missed him lots in the middle of the park this year…. plus he pops up with important goals as well.
Stephen mate, i aint got a clue pal… just made it up lol… just like Michael is making his football comments up lol…
It sounded the don though didnt it hahahahaha
Hargreaves getting slated now, fuckin hell. Most United fans would agree that we have missed Owen hugely this season. He was excellent in Europe last season and once he is fit again United will look a lot more solid. I must admit his injuries do concern me though. Michael do you really support FC or have you just jumped on that band wagon. If you have bailed out of MUFC then you ain’t entitled to an opinion my friend.
I will second that Eric mate.
I aint seen Suhayl on here for a while…
We do miss Hargo, he’s a top player, but a total sick note.
He is still around mate, he would love a few rounds with Michael mate.
i just want to point out that berbatov is world-class player, ok he has not performed the same as torres did in his 1st season(bcuz thats what the h8rs on here want)ok, the penalty was bull shit, but cmon guys, thats berbatov for u, thats his style, luk at last seasons carling cup final, imagine if he scored yday the way he scored the penalty last yr, u’ll be sayin, this guy is a genius, but it wernt 2 be, lets get behind him, and im 100% berbatov will come gud and be a hero.
Tell me about it Ste lol… Suhayl would cherry pick michael for the fun of it..
Right im outta ere… ive finished work now lol…. been a hard day on ere all day..
Catch you all later..
Adios failsworth, I’d don’t get to go home for another hour!
Suhayl may have topped himself. The states the man gets in to over United. Stressed to fuck. Are you still alive Suhayl??? Reckon we will see a rant soon!
Yes Berb messed up. The difference between him and Rio is the obvious one – Berb is a forward and should be more experienced and successful at penalties than a defender! But all players mess up – and sometimes at unfortunate moments. I still think Berbatov has a lot to give and will be inspirational to some of the younger players
i thought berbatov was a good siggnin but that penalty realy pissed me off, he could have atleast made it look like he tried
We all know Berbatov wanted to leave and I love how Tottenham “made” you pay £30M. Which has worked out very well for Spurs. We lost a player who didn’t want to play for us and you pay over the odds for him.
What makes it even funnier is he doesn’t even seem to be bothered about playing for you.
Adnani,
I think Berbatov was being too smart with the penalty for his own good.
I think he was looking at the keeper to determind where he was going and howard caught him out.
How more embarasing could it have got for him! I think its the biggest kick up the arse he could ever have got!
Now lets see what he is like in the next few weeks!!!
We have big games coming up! We will see who plays well and who doesnt!!
It pisses me off more they way our supporters are too quick to jump on players backs instead of supporting their team.
Clasic example of the Fickle Supporter! Early on in the season there were a few who was saying Fergie is too Loyal… Why is Giggs still playing, He is passed it! Blah Blah Blah Blah!
To be honest a good few games this season i thought giggs was our best player! He just continues to ooze class!
What we also have to remember is that the Media build players up to knock them down! All too quick to jump on the band wagon!!
Blimey…woaaaaaaaaaaaaah..THAT TOOK ME A WHOLE HOUR TO READ. ALL 9000 comments. Blimey there was a time when getting close to 100 comments was something impossible…the day it did happen..was momentous. But now we break the 300 comment barrier on ROM with regularity.
Ive been in a daze…always am when we lose….i really do feel like dying. Blimey couldnt eat last night…didnt go to work today…really angry and pissed off. Not to mention 3 kickoffs with cousins who come to blighty on their hols. Picked the wrong time for me to be a good host.
Times like these you feel…wish we’d played shit and got knocked out early doors. Rather than our kids roasting a 6th placed prem team than losing it like we did. GUTTED…
Have to play indoor footie today…5 players are dip fans….time for legs breakers i guess
The stupid thing about Berbatov was people starting to call him a new Cantona. He’s a completely different player, but he is also a brilliant one. But like Scholes, he needs players around him to do the running. If you make a good run, Berbatov will find you with an excellent pass.
United’s best period, when we came from behind to climb to the top of the table, coincided with Berbatov’s best period at the club. Since then, he’s either played being half injured, or injured all together.
A fantastic player, a hell of a lot better than I thought when we bought him.
ANALYSIS OF THE GAME.
We deserved to win
kids were awesome
Berba pen wasnt clever and did swing the momentum in evertons way…but i still like the player..he’s different..people got to realise football isnt about drones or predictable robots. U need variety and difference. He just needs to deliver in his own way.
Yes we would have won the game easy with 1 or 2 bigger names, but how good were the kids. We had more shots, play, possesion, corners etc.
Vida and rio AWE FUCKIN SOME
SAF TEAM selction didnt backfire…he was justified and vindicated
What fucked us up was this:-
1. Rio ban = FA fucked us over
2. Nevo fine = FA fucked us over
3. Evra ban = FA fucked us over
4. FA cup withdrawal 2000 = FA fucked us over
5. 2005 final we battered arsenal, should have had a pen = Fa fucked us over
6. 2007 final, shite final due to fatigue and fucked up pitch…but giggs through..gets scraped on legs by essien in the box, giggs momentum takes him and ball over the line…which cech takes over. Penalty? Ball over the line GOAL? NOOOOOOO goal fuckin kick by steve fuckin bennett = FA fucked us over
7. 2008 v pompey diarra nearly breaks ron and evras legs. Ron gets raped in box by distin. Martin fuckin atkinson sees nothing wrong = FA fucked us over.
8. 2009 wembley, our kids deserve to win. Danny wellbeck is through..past jagielka, past the clown howard….why would he fall over when he has an empty gaping net from 2 yards. STONE FUCKIN WALL PENALTY THAT WINS US GAME late on. Jagileka admits guilt…every everton player does….moyes admits a stone wall pen. Mike scrawny alien ‘ utd fan’ riley waves play on. costing us the game = FA fucked us over.
See the trend each year…
I say fuck the FA cup..yep tradition blah blah blah…yep we are the most successful club in it blah blah blah. I say fuck it…it just gets in the way and causes us heartbreak. Next year lets dump it in the 3rd round.
FUCKIN BASTARD FA AND ITS REFS….FUCKIN WANA KILL EM
PS. MICHAEL WHAT A BLOODY LUNATIC.
AND THANKS FOR THE COMMENTS LADS…IM STILL ALIVE JUST…JUST TAKES ME TIME TO GET MY BRAIN TOGETHER AFTER A DEFEAT..DO BECOME A ZOMBIE.
Feel like michael douglas in falling down.
What a lot of the anti Berbatov brigade tend to forget is the fact that this is his first season in a United shirt and unlike the console games and Football manager on the PC (where I think a majority of these people seem to be getting their football knowledge) it takes time for players to bed in -for some that takes longer than others, particularly if it has been disrupted by injury either in terms of time on the sideline or in relation to carrying a knock
If we were to take 1st season performances as the yardstick for whether a player remains at United we would have got rid of players such as Pallister, Vidic and Evra to name just a few of the most recent stars for the younger readers out there.
Getting on a players back no matter how old and experienced makes the process of bedding in to their new surroundings even more difficult. Sir Alex makes relatively few mistakes so why not trust his judgement. Berbatov is quality make no mistake. His style is unforgiving in that it may seem like he doesnt care or isnt trying but if that were really the case are you so naive to think that SAF would not have sussed that out and done something about it.
Get behind the shirt and every player wearing that shirt. Yes we lost the semi but we have already won trophies this year with a couple more to aim for. We do not have a God given right to win every match. We put out a team that lost on penalties but on a positive note it was a team who are young enough to have gained and learned from that experience and our big guns earnied some much needed rest before the battles ahead.
I remember times when we played in the old 2nd division, Gary Birtles lead the line and the height of our ambition was preventing Liverpool from winning a treble… now should we really be grumbling that much?
Red:
First you choose Saha over Ruud…now you declare Berbatov a player who needs more time to produce against quality teams. Based upon the entire season (including yesterday), how much would you be willing to spend for either Saha or Berbatov as an addition to your team? Certainly not much. Neither player is beyond the category of slightly above average. Kevin Davies, Robbie Keane, Santa Cruz and many others would have had a greater impact with/for ManU….let alone Torres, Adebajour and Van Parsie.
You state Berbatov works harder for a ball than Ronaldo….probably true but can you name ANY striker/midfielder on the TEAM that doesn’t work harder than Ronaldo to win a ball? Please provide the name!
I think, even given more time, Berbatov will be on the list with Veron, Dejamba, Blanc, Barthez, Carroll and Saha as busts.
Ruud we still miss you and your goal scoring even if RED won’t admit such!!
He’s a million times better than Ruud was – he’s more skillful with the ball at his feet, keeps possession and doesn’t fall down like he’s been shot at the slightest provocation. I like the guy – haven’t seen him dispossessed that often, despite being habitually hounded by at least three opposing players every chance they can and then, while they’re busy chasing him around, he passes the ball out, creating chances for others. World class – a team player. You couldn’t ask for more. Now he takes one crap penalty and suddenly people hate him all over again? I don’t understand it, but then there’s no pleasing some people.
Berbatov was never the kind of player we needed. Not even at twenty million, never mind thirty. We need a real goal scorer. But even making allowances for that he’s been a real disappointment. I can’t see the point of him at all.
The penalty miss wasn’t the worst thing about his performance yesterday. It was that he just did nothing when he came on.
Red Charlie:
My reply is not based on his “crap penalty” but instead it is based upon his play throughout the year.
The term STRIKER means what?
Does scorer come to mind? I agree Berbatov has foot skills but why is he holding the ball while hounded by “at least three opposing players” instead of one or two touching the ball to a teammate?
Berbatov spends entirely to much time away from the box over touching the ball while opponents are given time to drop back on defense.
Rooney is the world class TEAM player not Berbatov.
Your comment that Berbatov is a million times better than Ruud is bonkers and reflects badly upon you…after you reflect upon same you should retract or provide FACTS to support your frivolous declaration.
Davies, Santa Cruz and Keane better than Berbatov? Don’t be daft.
Ps Scott, just out of interest is the response to this topic the highest number to date? I reckon it could be.
Berbatov is not the one that needs more of an opportunity. It’s management that needs another chance at figuring out how to interchange Rooney Ronaldo Tevez and Berbatov. All of our players are class. The team needs to be centered around Rooney not Berbatov. Different team will require a different line up to break them down. Sometimes it will be Rooney-Tevez, other times Rooney-Berbatov. Furthermore, when it’s Rooney-Berbatov our players should be more disciplined in staying in more fixed positions. The Rooney-Tevez partnership is literally breathtaking. The Rooney-Berbatov partnership has the potential to be just as deadly if implemented correctly.
“But you’re a fool if you don’t think he’s got what it takes to be a winner for United.”
Yeah, people said the same about Veron.
People need to get behind Berba at the match but away from all that, anyone having serious reservations about him as a United player is entirely understandable.
Ole P. Pedersen
what was our football like and trophy hall last year of 07/08
premiership and european champions with ronaldo rooney tevez interchanging it was breathtaking no berbetov
Yers Michael but for fucks sake teams have worked us out this season, in particular that trio. Football moves on and at the moment Sir Alex is still working out which way to play them all. As John Ferry said different teams require different line ups.
King Eric:
Kevin Davies, Santa Cruz and Robbie Keane if at ManU would have had a “greater impact” than Berbatov was the statement….
Given the opportunity to play with the TEAM all of the above would have flourished and surpassed the impression made this year by Berbatov. So you disagree…that’s one King’s opinion.
What about the other three players I listed, would prefer them over Berbatov? Please be thoughtful with your reply we don’t want a palace coup to take place!
King Eric
so we are better off playing our 2 best attackers in ronaldo and rooney out of position 2 accomadate this donkey. so lets say it was ronaldo rooney and torres has our front 3 last year you would be willing 2 break up that attack to try and fit in berbacrap. because you dnt get any better then ronaldo rooney and tevez running at you and they would still be awesome now.
You know what I hate?
I hate Man U “supporeters” that turns on a player or the whole club when in times of trouble. Unfortunately, we got something to learn from clubs like Newcastle and Liverpool to mention some…
Lets face it, we have just too many glory hunters in our supporter club and to those who only support United when they win; FUCK OFF, SCUM!!
Those of you that know me know that i love Berbatov, i just hate the position he’s played in. He should be pushed up top, as he was at Spurs and at Leverkusen, with Rooney in behind him.
As far as i’m concerned he’s an incredible player, but we’re using him wrong. He in the top 10 strikers in the world for me, and Rooney as a world class second striker. But for some reason they’re being played in each others positions when they’re together, which is ridiculous. SAF knows more than me, but it bugs me when i see balls going into the box and he’s 20 yeards behind play because a) he’s still deep after linking play and b) he’ll never be one of those players who breaks his neck to get into the box. We need him further forward to play as a target man and someone who gets on the end of things.
Oh, and i bet a friend £20 at the beginning of the season that he’d score 20 goals, and it looks like i’ve lost that.
I know its hard, we all feel angry for the way he plays, but i think fergie should talk to him and tell him that we expect more from him and him to change his attitude in a game..
come on, the only thing we can do is give him support, he will prove himself, maybe not this season, but the seasons ahead…
United Fan
davetian
LOL top 10 you are having a laugh, I will name you ronaldo rooney torres villa etoo henry adebayor aguero tevez benzama who are all better and would balance and improve united’s attack.
Sell Berby—have you completely lost your mind. The man has just come off the injured list and is playing his way back to fitness. The guy is majic and will come good and in a big way–he’s majic!!!!!!
But what is really pissing me off is this ridulous whining….leave that for those wanker gooner fans.
This is United after all and damn it people we have had so much to be excited about and still do!! Wake up and be thankful or go and join Man City–then you would something to moan about.
Top man.
Last year we won the double because of Ronaldo, everyone played a part tevez included but the free flowing footbal was because Ronaldo was hungry and was determined to be the best in the world…I don’t like him much but he still is! The Villa match proved that…he was our worst fucking player and scored two goals. Rooney and tevez for all their hard work and effort cannot consistently produce that, and if the ball isn’t played wthin a yard either side of Berba he doesn’t seem to give a shit! I still think he can come good but needs a good kick up the arse… I personally think it will be teve who loses out pre-season…especially when wellbeck and macheda looked every bit the threat of tevez or berbatov against Everton it was just a shame they had to play out on the left most of the game…Overall though i think we can be proud of the young side considering they were every bit as good as Everton over a long game on a shit pitch…the futures bright anyway!
William – Torres? No way not now being a dipper. Adebayour ? Good player, shite attitude. RVP? Not a fuckin chance mate!
isnt berbatov a dippper
Why blame berbatov for the losses of the game. You should have blame for all the players who play on that game first. Macheda Teves, Welbech is a absolutely useless. I f Berbatov started on that game, there should have score before reaching this penalty. Everybody misses penalty like Ronaldo, the most important as well in the finals of Championship and as well Rio who misses the penalty kick. And never compare Macheda to Berbatov as Macheda hasn’t prove anything yet not even close to Berbatov’s achievement in football.
berbatovisthegreat
welbeck is 18 berbatov is almost 29, welbeck is going to be a really top united player he is just raw so is macheda. LOL what has berbatov achieved in football
What you want of course is a player who combines the undoubted skill and artistry of Berbatov with the heart and passion of Tevez. But we already have such a player, his name is Wayne Rooney. Finding a striking partner for Rooney is the name of the game and neither Berbatov nor (sadly) Tevez fit the bill. We need a new van Nistelrooy.
Jesus he has gotta be some sort of dopey cunt to take a penalty like that….he has gotta know that the fans (me included) haven’t taken to him so to got out and fail like he did ….well he has either balls the sizeof footballs or the brain the size of a fucking pea.
ultimately the fault lies with SAFfor pick such a side as that……dear oh fucking dear…… what a cunting shambles
Been reading throught he many mnay posts on this and just wondered that twat called Michael has been supporting FC united …..just who the fuck are they?
Sory to sound gierant but just don’t understand what the fuck he is on about
King Eric:
SA would swap Berbatov for Torres or Adebayour or Van Persie….quick out
of town I think your crown is at risk!
Cheers, denton davey. You must have a Twitter account I can follow your views on?
Hear me out on this!
Last year I felt that our main success was due to Ronaldos Amazing season which i dont think he ever will repeat!!
At times i found Tevez and Rooney too simular and we lacked at times during some matches a more physical pressence or an arial threat!
During that season i seen a review of the season where points were given for assists and goals. The top 3 were 1 Ronaldo, 2 Berbatov & 3 Rooney!
So when fergie Signed Berbatov i was estatic!
What we have to remember is that he is not playing for a mid table team!
He is surrounded now by immence tallent!
He didnt have a preseason with us!
He has struggled to gel and be on the same wavelength as our current players!
Our current players have struggled to understand Berbatovs Strengths!
Fergie touched on it earlier in the season, our players have to gt used to how berbatov plays! He should be given the ball more in certain situations, He has amzing ability of keeping control of the ball and laying it off when surrounded by 3 or 4 players… Making more room for others to exploit!
Next season Berbatov will be settled and we should see the real Berbatov!
If not i have no doubt fergie will shift him on!…
Belive!
Keep faith in Fergie .. He has hardly ever let us down!
Berbatov just doesnt seem to know what hes doing on the field these days. Ok i accept thats hes lazy, thats his game but his lack of vision in recent games is driving me mad. Why is he playing Man Utd when he contributes absolutly nothing to the team? Cantona, Nistelroy, Ronaldo etc arent the biggest runarounds in man utd history but we love them all because they contribute something. I know Berbatov can play better i know hes world class but than again i knew that Verón was world class…
Micheal, stop the fuck posting!
I am tired of your bullshit! You loser
If you are a true fan, you’d be trying to support and boost every player’s confidence in this hard time, so close to the end of the season.
You all cry like little girls. YOU LOSERS. I AM TIRED OF YOU WHINING
Berbatov is a great player!
And you disgraced our entire community
Berbatov is sooo much better than Tevez its not even funny…
the argie has worse ball control than Johnny O’Shea at the moment…
there is no way he is going to be bought…the strike force for the next season will be Roon an Berbie with macheda welbeck campbell etc for support
misterq if you don’t like what scott says don’t come to the website. It is an OPINION! you can have yours but take your sad comments somewhere else!
Personally Berba is not one of my favourites but I will always want him to do well for the team…
I agree with some other comments too… he wears our shirt.. lets support him… and nagdaddy you are so right… Tevez is up to shite at the moment… I don’t see us paying that much for him now even though he is and can be a top player.
Glad you lost the semi, Ferguson disrespected the FA cup (again) by fielding your reserves and came a cropper. Thats why its great to see teams like Everton, Portsmouth West Ham in the final because they give their all and want the trophy. Not like you greedy lot. And now could this be the defining moment in the red devils season? Will you crash and burn and lose everything? Only time will tell………….
Well said Shame.
Totally disrespectful United fans just turning on players, support your bloody team and help them.
The haters are the same people that called for Fergusons head when we went through a so called bad period. Absolutely shocking and I think some may be intruding rivals fans (Scouse, arse and chelski scum)
Long live Ferguson, Sir Ledgend!!!
Nelly THE Hammer, what the fuck has it got to do with you?
I am amazed at how much stick berbatov has got from this match.
Has anyone remembered how shit tevez played?
His control reminded me of Emile Hesky!
Did he even get a shot on goal?
His workrate was good give him that!
He didnt look confident!
OUr 19 year old reserve Italian (forgot his name! im getting old!) striker out shined him on the day (His touch was good, tried to play loads of through balls and looked a threat!)
Wellbeck outsinded him! – Sam as above!
People say tevez is better but in the last 4 months any time he has played i havent seen how he is worth 30 million either!
I think United need a clinical Striker! I think Berbatov has more chance of being that than Tevez! Just need him to get some confidence!
Im also judeing tevez on last year! When his confidence was high he didnt often fill me with confidence he would convert any chance he received! I watched him time and time again ballon a shot over the bar!
Nelly THE Hammer
When you lot play in so many competitions you have to do what is right for the club!
I think fergies team selection was spot on! He matched Evertons Energy with Energy! We looked the better team in my opinion and were unlucky not to win before penalties!
yes we could have won by playing all of our big players! But how would that have set us up for the game on Wednesday?? Tired i think! Jaded and at best getting a Draw!
WE cannot loose the premier league to Liverpool that is unthinkable! If we only win the league this year as well as the worthless cup i will be happy! Anything else will be a bonus!!
nagdaddy
you are having a laugh berbetov better then tevez not in a million years. tevez is a billion times better then berbatov,
against porto who scored the 3 goals in the 2 games lets get this right.
rooney tevez ronaldo no berbatov, ex football players all dnt rate berbatov, just face it people berbatov is a flop and is another veron, and ppl say rooney and tevez are too simuler then what the hell is berbatov who is slow plays deep and he has made our attack worse. oh yea tevez scored more then rooney last year, and look at stats tevez scored vital goals last year and this year.
Michael,
You have proved with Previous posts you know fuck all about football!
You support Fc United.
Your oppinion doesnt Count in my opinion!!
Any true united supporter has the right to an opinion! If you support Fc United! Go comment on their players! On Their Forum!
Micheal.
you mentioned above that you support FC United, why should i listen to your opinion?
Do you think it means anything?
Does Berbatov Play for FC United?
Does Ferguson Manage FC United?
Are you talking about Manchester United or FC United?
If Manchester United… Why! You dont support them!
Is supporting FC United that Boring you have to plague other Teams Forums with your Opnion!
If you also feel you are fully qualified to Do a better Job than Fergie, I fully expect to hear your name mentioned as the candidates for his Job when he retires in a few years time!
You can call me Shit Head, Shit Face.. But at the end of the day i know you are just full of bullshit!
To the real Manchester United Fans, that have not been happy with Berbatov’s Performences all i ask is that we all give him time! Lets Judge him after next season!!
One thing i would bet my house on! Fergusion does not suffer fools! He will get rid of anyone who is not pulling his weight or anyone he feels is no use to the team!
DID ANYONE NOTICE THAT THAT PENALTY WAS AN EXCACT CARBON COPY OF THE PENALTY HE TOOK AGAINST CHELSEA IN LAST YEARS CARLING CUP FINAL.
Trevor–you are a top man…The rest of you whiners, take note and open your traps only if it is in support.
Last year you where over the moon when we signed this great striker. He is a first rate player and will win many games for united. Get on board and give the bloke support!! Otherwise, keep your negativity to yourselves. We are but 7 games from winning the EPL Championship again and three games away from lifting the Champions Legaue trophy. Hang in there you fair weather pricks. Here’s my guess, most of you whiners aren’t real united fans, cause united fans support their team through thick and thin!!!
Save this whinging for the real fair weather pricks over at Arsenal.
I do not agree with all the comments one would classify as anti Berbatov-I have discussed my concerns with him and the fact I favor keeping Tevez. I never considered this forum one that mandated always spouting positive platitudes concerning the players or manager.
I do not believe Scott the Red requires one follow the party line and if my belief is correct those who take it upon themselves to create a moralistic attitude of a die hard supporter should develop a new forum where they can form a circle jerk with like thinking pretenders!
The TEAM and this forum will survive without you.
TREVOR You obviously didn’t choose the right team cos you fuckin lost! And for matching Everton with energy give me a break. You deserved to lose, thought you were second best all day. And to blame the pitch like Arsene Whinger, fuck me how sad is that? Bet the travelling Manc fans thought the line up was shit as well, not like you armchair critics. As for Berbatov, what a lazy nob. Glad you all think that he’s worth the money and contract whereas Tevez is out the door this summer. Now there is a player who deserves to be in the team. Whe’d take him back anyday. Come back Tevez, we luv yer still.
By the way, I am not anti Manc, would rather you win the prem than the scouse twats, but thought you could’ve made an effort on sunday.
Nelly The Hammer
yes we lost, but i still feel we picked the right team under the situation we were in! The premiership is more important than The FA Cup.
Everton better than us on the day? Erm were you watching the right match? Did you watch it!
I didnt think there was much in the game at all. We had good posession! We had chances, Everton to me didnt cause us much trouble!
If we had all our top players playing then yes we might have won! But what would we have done in the following match against Portsmouth!
I wouldnt expect a Hammers fan to understand that there is bigger fish than the FA Cup! Its the only highlight of your year! Apart from celebrating each year when you secure your position in the Premiership and not find yourself in the Championship!
At the end of the day! We lost! We got put out of the FA Cup but i am sure we can live with it! The sweetness of lifting the premier league will make sure to that! If we get the Champions League then that will be a bonus.
Nelly let me hear you sing!!!! “Im for ever blowing bubbles pretty bubbles but no fc*king cups!” Piss off to the Hammers forum and keep talking like a Real Club wanabe!
Hi! I am from Bulgaria, and Berbatov is one of poor forwards. He is familiar by medias.
barbatov aginst sunderland was a nightmare
HIS ATTITUDE IS TERRIBLE..ALWAYS ARROGANT IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA….THERES NO TOUCH
BETWEEN HIM AND HIS FANS ,SOMENTHING THAT MAKES YOU THING HES TOO BIG FOR HIS BOOTS AND EVEN IF HE IS,IS NOT WORTH IT ANY MORE.