Cristiano Ronaldo has come under criticism from United and non-United fans alike this season, following his temper tantrums and petulance.
Against Fulham, there were occasions where Ronaldo was fouled and should have been awarded a freekick. However, referee Phil Dowd didn’t notice and play continued. This is frustrating, certainly, but it’s not as if Ronaldo is the only player to be fouled during a game and not win a freekick for it. However, most players who are fouled on the halfway line and lose possession tend to try and win the ball back, despite the injustice of not being awarded a freekick. Sadly, Ronaldo just doesn’t seem prepared to do that. If he believes he has been fouled and nothing has been done about it, he’ll stand with his hands on his hips and limp about. Yeh Ronnie, life’s a bitch, but get on with it!
Paul Parker has today claimed that Ronaldo’s attitude at the moment isn’t helping the team and suggests what should be done about.
“Ronaldo is not helping Manchester United or helping his team-mates by generating that kind of atmosphere,” said Parker. “Stamping your feet or exaggerated hand gestures just wind up the opposition fans even more and undermine your own concentration. It is not show ponies that are needed at this stage of the season, it is shire horses who will work hard. Nine times out of ten you don’t play great football during a title run-in. It is a battle and you have to stand up and be counted. This time of the season is do or die and the last bit of the season makes or breaks you as a Manchester United player. It is how United have reacted in this period of the campaign that makes the difference between a United player and an average Premier League player.”
Parker reckons the influence of club captain Gary Neville could make all the difference to Ronaldo.
“United need a Gary Neville at the moment on the pitch,” he added. “I think he would have sorted Cristiano out on Saturday. I don’t mean he would have physically got him by the scruff of the neck but he would have got the message across and told him a few home truths that his reactions were not helping the cause.”
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Goos post.Neville can rile the players up,but as i have said before,at this moment we need a Roy Keane.I remember the Sunderland game where Keane got sent off in 02.Phil Neville was complaining about something to the ref and he shoved him away.Imagine what he would have done to the brat at Craven Cottage.
My sentiments exactly, it’s funny this article popped up, because i was just thinking the same. How long are we going to have to see him play this way. When was the last time we saw him make a mazy run into the box, followed by a thunder bolt. He doesn’t even make it past the first player. I was wondering if I was just falling into the hate campaign, but after Saturday’s antics it’s warranted. He does need a talking to, maybe if he carries on like that oon international duty one of his compatriots will give him an earful.
And the thing that gets me the most,is that ever since last summer it feels like he is holding us under ransom.As if he has to play.The fact is this:excluding League cup games,he hasn’t played in one high profile game since October and it was our best performance of the season:at Craven Cottage.I am grateful for what he did last season,but it’s high time he got his shit together or sat on the bench and let someone like Nani have his chance.
That tackle he got booked for was the first I have seen him make all season. A little exaggerated maybe, but you get the point.
Absolutely bang on Paul. Can you imagine Robbo or Roy letting him get away with his attitude on pitch? Wouldn’t happen simple as. We now need Nev back for the run in for this reason, show some authority on the pitch and rally the players. We have missed that this season.
Costas – makes you wonder if part of his contract states that if he is to remain a United player then he MUST PLAY every game and not be subbed!
Not at all exaggerated.It must be the first.Compare that to what Park is doing on the other side,and the results don’t flatter Ronaldo a lot.This is the first time i have heard Macari on commentary outside of MUTV and he seemed pissed at Ronaldo.
King Eric I know this might spark a heated debate,but do you think that he is getting away with worst things compared to Beckham and Ruud before they left?I am not talking about Keane,because there were out of the field issues there.To be honest,i can’t understand how the same Ferguson who showed other players the door when it mattered is putting up with him.
His histrionics against Fulham, were an embarrassment to himself and the club. He’s a fantastic player no doubt, but the way he conducts himself at times is frankly appalling. Sir Alex needs to take him to task over it, I don’t think he need’s showing the door, just a fucking good dressing down, tell him what’s expected, and make it known in no uncertain terms that like the previous two seasons, he has to do the talking with the ball at his feet.
He needs to grow up and grow a pair. You have to wonder sometimes, if the guy sits down to piss.
Have to agree with Paul Parkers comments, all I would like to add is, there is a fuckin big plate which needs ALL of our players to step up to now and prove they are the best team in Europe.
I’m just wondering, should we sell Ronaldo at the end of the season, because i feel he really dosen’t want to be at utd. And don’t you think the other players are fed up of his antics because i am.
macaris always pissed about something. the mans a miserable sour type with a deferatist attitude. its no wonder he never made it as a manager at our club. im surprised he was even given the job!
COSTAS- . if beckam was our top scorer in his last two seasons he wouldnt have been sold. simple as.
AND DONT GET ME STARTED ON THAT PRAT VAN NISTLEROOY.
come on guys this aint the time to cry like babies and turn against whoever is flavour of the month to av a go at, ie ronnie.
what about the disgrace of a ref dowd at the weekend? how that foot up wasnt given, considering the refs positioning, is beyond belief!
I think Ronaldo is taking the beating for the poor performance of a whole team. He certainly needs a Roy keane to tell him to shut it when needed. But Saturday we lost because of Paul Scholes as simple as that. You cannot expect such an experienced player do such a mistake so early in the game. Unfortunately Man Utd have reacted exactly the opposite way they used to after the sending off. They just fell to pieces! Am still confident they are going to achieve great things but Fergie needs to get his hairdryer out and remind EVERYONE where they stand.
Bossdem you make good points about Dowd.We covered them in 2 loooong topics.He is a fuckface plain and simple.No use in talking badly about old players though.Personally i don’t like Macari because at times he is biased against some players.He was critisizing Berba’s bodylanguage after he got the knock on his ankle!What was he supposed to do?Happy dances?I agree about Beckham but it’s a shame if we put goals and trophies over unacceptable behaviors,like we did with Ronaldo.One last thing guys.Right now,if we made a poll abut whether Ronaldo or Tevez should stay(provided one was definitely leaving) who would you want?
“referee Phil Dowd didn’t notice and play continued. This is frustrating, certainly, but it’s not as if Ronaldo is the only player to be fouled during a game and not win a freekick for it.”
Scott, your reasoning is beside-the-point. It’s not that CR is fouled and no freekick is given BUT RATHER that he is systematically and cynically kicked, tripped, and even strangled. Sometimes, the referee “notices” but all too often he doesn’t and when he does he seems to think that this kind of systematic, cynical fouling “is part of the game”. To defend CR further, what must be incredibly frustrating and infuriating to him is that even when he shows stud marks along his thigh – as he did on Saturday v. Fulham – the referee just gets on with it. Some of you guys might think that he is being a ponce or a show pony but the reality is that he seems quite willing to accept hard challenges and only goes off his rag when those “hard challenges” continually go over the line into cynical kicking, tripping and strangling. I’m sure he realizes that he won’t get much sympathy from the officials but, surely-to-goodness, his own team’s supporters need to be clear about what constitutes a level playing field. This guy is a fabulous talent who is being dragged down by the inability of the Michael Balls, Steven Taylors, and John Pantsils to cope with him in a fair fashion. And when those numpties can’t manage to do the job by foul means then there’s always another player or two who is assigned to double-or triple-team him. He was able to overcome that kind of defensive strategy last year because he was given freedom to roam but the arrival of Berbatov has led to a strategic realignment which has confined CR to the wing and he has therefore been much less dangerous and much less valuable to his team-mates.
To those of you who now want to sell CR, ask yourself one little question: who is UTD’s leading scorer despite the fact that he has missed the first two months of the season ? The answer is NOT Rooney or Berbatov or Tevez !
Sounds like things are in place to blame a foreigner if Manu loses the title. The same thing happened in the 2006 World Cup when Rooney with his temper and Lampard with his poor play were both protected by the press and Ronaldo was blamed for everything because of his wink.
It depends on which ronaldo we were voting for, the fearsome, flying gladiator type Ronaldo or the attitude ridden school girl prat we have seen latley.
his antics and play all year to me show he doesn’t want to be at the club.does anybody disagree when i say its time to let him go and pocket the 80 to 100 mill real madrid will pay for him.
on a foot note berbatov also has a poor work ethic to me he’s been a bust,lou macari was spot on not understanding why roony and tevez didn’t start against fulham.we are a much better quicker attacking side with tevez in the team and his work rate is without question.
sir alex has to start playing him along side roony for the run in and get him signed.
Denton Davey, couldnt agree with you more
“This guy is a fabulous talent who is being dragged down by the inability of the Michael Balls, Steven Taylors, and John Pantsils to cope with him in a fair fashion. And when those numpties can’t manage to do the job by foul means then there’s always another player or two who is assigned to double-or triple-team him.”
Fair point denton davey and i agree to an extent.One question.Didn’t Giggs go through the same thing in his early days?You know why Giggs was treated more fairly?Because he wasn’t doing stepovers all the time trying to humiliate the opponent.In England it’s a law.You do party tricks(like Nani did with Arsenal) and pretty soon you will have a Gallas or a Djourou trying to break your leg.Apart from that,you make a good analysis as to why he has been pushed to the wing.And he is our top scorer with 18 goals but he has played more games than the others.He missed the first 8 games of the season but ever since he has played in every Premiership game and most Ch.League games.
poor article.parker who????the best players come with their baggage.no one is perfect.We need gary neville?nasri,remember?
the reason we dont perform well is that if ronaldo is not producing,(i mean scoring),no one else stands up,so we blame him.poor lad.
Scholes and that fat pig rooney get sent off for selfish reasons,no one says anything.one is a legend,the other is awonder kid,who we still expect alot from,but sadly thats all he will ever be.wonderboy.their password?they are BRITISH.
The ronaldo you are refering to,is he the sameone that has been the club’s top scorer for the last 3 seasons as a winger?the one that was selected among the top 3 footballers in the world 2007,the world and european player of the year,and so on
what does gary,rooney,or even keane have to tell him?arent these the same chaps that won in 99 and flopped since,with questionable discipline?We have got too used to ugly football that we would rather watch keane over zidane,and beckam over figo,for that matter rooney over torres.
we need brainy players not hustlers.ball players not ruffians.the days of keane and neville are long gone and are never coming back.that type can now survive in the scottish league where lag breaking tacles and ranting are the thing.
What’s with all the Macari comment? The piece is by Paul Parker no?
There’s nothing new with Ronaldo acting the maggot, he’s been at it for years. No point giving out about him now when things are going wrong, he should have been sold last summer for £100 Mill, don’t think we’ll get as much this time round. Could be a legend if he chose to be but it’s looking like he’ll never learn that people appreciate work ethic as much as level of skill.
Although it goes against my personal opinion of a players’ attitude, I think it’s ok having someone like CR7 in a team as long as it’s just the one. Problem is, CR7 has massive influence on all young aspiring players at Utd and that’s when attitude becomes terminal. Instead of our young players looking to Giggs, Neville, Ole and Scholes, they’re aspiring to be the next superstar CR7. I think it’s bad for the growth of players like Nani, Anderson, Welbeck etc.
I don’t want to blame the guy for bringing all these other kids down but they all admire him hugely and it’s natural for them to follow his lead.
Option 1: Take £100 Mill in the summer from Real, thank him for all his contributions and wave him goodbye. He can flounder in La Liga and improve on his tan.
Option 2: Someone grab hold of him and make him realize what he’s passing up; the chance to be considered one of the greats of all time. Buckle down, concentrate on the game, the team and show the energy, strength and enthusiasm we know he’s capable of.
I’d love to see option 2 but I can’t see it ever happening. Therefore cash in the chips and bring along the next big thing, the club will live forever with or without him.
it would be a sad sight for united fans when ronaldo finally leaves.all the burden will be put on your favourite fat wayne,and thats when you will discover how ronaldo was carrying the team.
My own feeling is that Ronaldo is one of those players who needs someone to protect him out on the pitch. Someone who will put in one of those challenges that says ‘you fuck with him, then you fuck with me’. Brown did it perfectly last season, and it’s a real shame that he and Ronaldo havent been able to play together much this season, as i feel we would have seen a completely different player. O’Shea or Rafael arent gonna do it, and Carrick isnt gonna come across and do it either. I’m not blaming other players at all, the simple fact is he needs protection, or at least to feel he is protected.
Personally i think if Hargreaves or Brown we’re fit this year we’d of seen a far different player, not the whinging, petulant one we see now. I hope the Neviller is back in the team soon, because he’ll get him sorted out too. maybe even have Fletcher playing more regular too, he’s not scared of a tackle.
Well said Denton Davey I think it should of been you who wrote the article and not the person with the anti ronaldo agenda as proven in other articles done recently
Jig,no way they are giving us 100mil now.More like 50mil and i think this time we will take it gladly.Option 2 is difficult because the one person who he was listening to is no longer at the club.
“their password?they are BRITISH.
The ronaldo you are refering to,is he the sameone that has been the club’s top scorer for the last 3 seasons as a winger?the one that was selected among the top 3 footballers in the world 2007,the world and european player of the year,and so on
what does gary,rooney,or even keane have to tell him?arent these the same chaps that won in 99 and flopped since,with questionable discipline?”
donibrasco i am Greek so i don’t give the other two the benefit of the doubt for that reason.The other players that you mention have plenty to tell him.They can tell him what it’s like to play for United and be grateful.United are doing him a favor not the other way around.He will realise that when he is at Madrid.Keane slopped after 99?He scored 12 goals the fllowing season and had 3 more great seasons.He didn’t rest on his laurels like Ronaldo did after winning all the personal awards you mentioned.Ronaldo hasn’t been acting like a world player of the year for a while now.
davetian you might be right but didn’t Ronaldo play mostly infield last season.This year with the arrival of Berba he has been forced back to the wing.Do you think that he is missing Quieroz?He might have talked some sense into him.
His first half against fulham was unacceptable. His whining slightly annoys me with 11 players on the pitch and we are 2-0 up, but when the shit hits the fan 1-0 down, we are 10vs 11, and he makes no effort at all to help in our defensive game I was raging.
Yes the other players played awful in the first half too but at least they worked for their team and supporters.
Wtf? When we were winning most of our games last season there was no such talk but now that the shit has hit the fan we all wanna blame ronny for this. Come one you knobheads. United we stand, united we fall.
jig macari didn’t understand the pairing of beratov and ronaldo up front after tevez and roony had took fulham apart in the f.a. cup neither have commitment or work rate which rubs off on the rest of the team,that was clear on saturday
I’ve read comments about how great he his,nobody is disputing his ability but his overall attitude is not good for team spirit having a tight dressing room is very important when players have to rally around each other.i feel ronaldo is a me man not a team man which is not good
We don’t blame him for the defeat Man cpt.Even last season’s Ronaldo couldn’t save us on Saturday.We blame him because we feel that for the first time his bodylanguage suggests that he doesn’t want to be here.Last season he was united with the rest of the team.This year,it’s another story.
A me man ? If that means another Premiership title and Champions League, i’ll gladly take. Funny that there was no such talk when Ronaldo was firing them in last season. GIve the lad a break. He’ll come good when it matters.
Just read back over a few comments people had posted earlier. For anyone who thinks that a team doesnt need some hard, enforcing players, you only have to look at the great sides down the years. Every side needs at least 2 people who can not only put in the challenges, but have the personality to back it up.
I dont like to praise them, but look at the Arsenal ‘invincible team’. Vieira and Silva in central midfield, allowing players like Pires, Bergkamp, and Henry to flourish. The 2002 Brazil world cup team had Ronaldo, Rivaldo, and Ronaldinho all playing fantactic football, with Cafu and Roberto Carlos bombing forward as full backs. But they had 2 holding players behind them winning the ball and giving it to them, and ensuring the team maintained structure and shape. Every team needs these players. The team that started on saturday had none, with the possible exception of Fletch, who started the game wide right. I put the Liverpool result down as a freak, but i put the Fulham result down to not having the players to fight hard enough for the ball.
Hargreaves was bought to do just that. Vidic does it for fun, and i think every United player, when asked, has pointed out Brown as the hardest tackler at United. Anderson is capable of it, as is Fletch, Neville also.
Ronaldo is a luxury player. He hasnt got that fight in him. This season he hasnt had enough of those players around him to help him flourish as he should have. He needs a hard, pretty defensive full back behind him, and preferably a hard midfielder generally around him. He needs to buck his ideas up now, thats obvious, but he also needs the players around him that can let him play his kind of football, the kind that did so much for us last year. Some people forget so quickly.
I think that the international week has come at the right time. united have lost some discipline and need to refocus on what got them to the top and why they never conceded any goals for 14 games or so and why they won 11 consecutive league games. the main is that when teams come to OT as fans we really need to ne that 12th man. Make so much noise and sing our hearts out. Show the team that we believe in them and that we know they are all champions. even when the players make mistakes (which they will do) we need not be on their backs but encouraging them. the more they feel our support and hear our noise the more they’ll be relaxed and focused and enjoy the game. this is not the time to be on SAF back or the players. we have 5 games at home – all winnable and 3 away again all winnable. whichever team SAF selects, will be able to win those games. i think that behind the scenes the veterans would have spoken to CR7 and Rooney. Even Berba will know what’s expected of him. we’ve had a bad 2 weeks, that’s all. every team goes through a blip. but when the spotlight is on us it’s magnified even more. but that’s what happens when you are a United player.
a win against the villa will change everything, and it’s a game they know they must win. which i believe they will. from that moment onwards the confidence will come back and they wont look back. they and we have fans have been through the storm and survived, now we will come out better and stronger.
DentonDavey – RvN was the highest scorer during his final season at the club. So? At no point have I questionned Ronaldo’s ability. The guy is clearly shit hott. But is that all it’s about? When Drogba was banging them in, would you have had him? Is that all we want from United players, ones who can score goals, regardless of how they conduct themselves on the pitch?
Of course I don’t think systematic and cynical fouling is part of the game. But what does Ronaldo’s reaction achieve? By putting his hands on his hips and standing by to watch the opposition carry the ball towards our penalty area, what is he achieving? Whilst Ronaldo is having a temper tantrum, the rest of our players have to work harder to win the ball back. Is it fair Ronaldo is fouled all the time? Course it’s not, but he’s not the only player who is targetted (Wright-Phillips, Ashley Young and any other flair player gets kicked off the park, whilst there are several players in the league who have been fouled more than Ronaldo) but I don’t see many other players refusing to track back and attempt to win back possession when they haven’t been awarded a freekick they believe they deserve.
My concern lies with the fact the rest of our team have to make up for Ronaldo’s strops. I completely understand his frustrations… but does that mean it’s OK for him to take himself out of the game to make a show of himself and the foul? Would you feel the same way if the opposition scored a goal directly from one of these incidents?
Ronaldo has kicked 5 players in off the ball incidents this season, and that’s OK because he’s frustrated? Ronaldo limps around in offside positions whilst he watches his team mates run their bollocks off to win back the ball, and that’s OK because he’s frustrated? Or is it OK because he’s the best player in the World? Or is it OK because he’s our top scorer? I’d argue it isn’t OK at all… but maybe I’m unfair to ask Ronaldo to behave in the same way we expect all our other players to behave, because clearly he deserves special treatment, being The Best Player in the World (TM).
me man means selfish which isn’t good for team unity.paul scholes left him out of his best 11 although talent wise has to be one of the best scholes has played with.
enough said
“My own feeling is that Ronaldo is one of those players who needs someone to protect him out on the pitch. Someone who will put in one of those challenges that says ‘you fuck with him, then you fuck with me’. Brown did it perfectly last season, and it’s a real shame that he and Ronaldo havent been able to play together much”
GREAT POINT – Wesley Brown is hard as nails. He’s my favourite player on the current team – it’s a real shame that he is hexed with injuries. He could’a been a legend !
Another reason for buying someone like de Rossi this off-season !
@davetian
i agree with the point you have mentioned….
adding to that……if you want to talk about his play…..its not poor by any standards…even at Fulham…he was one of the top performers in the second half…puttin crosses……who put in the cross for our best chance of our match….(for park who messd it up)….its RONALDO!!!….thts just an example im showin on…why the fck everyone goes on blaming him and forget abt fuckin Oshea..who never ever connects his play with ronaldo ..its tooo awful..he passes to ronaldo one out of ten times….and you want to talkk about evra…its there for every one..to see….he goes on and on and on attcking…thts fine when ronaldo was marked by 2 r 3 players….thts the only brighter side to the issue….they r many a times…he fluffes up d final ball…wht d fck can ronaldo do abt it!!!?..and can some one say…agn tht he cant play in big matches…..some one come and temme….tht he had an average match..against INTER over the two legs…thts one hell of a joke…..
if you want to talk about his petulance etc…watever….i accept…and most of fans know…that…he likes showoff….but tht ..doesnt imply to whatever we r seeing these days on the pitch in any fckin way…..instead of puttin in similar words again..you can just refer to the post davey’s post
@costas….what u said is fine…regardin showin off ur skill and get a pathetic tackle for tht…..thts one of the biggest blips in EPL….no respect for talent….stupid mfckers….go on tacklin..when they are not up to the standards…DID You see the blood marks( due to rubbish and pathetic fouling) on ronaldo thigh.in the fulham s match…..what can u expect from a 23 yr old…rather than complainin to ref. and when he does tht the way the ref just wavd on play…..obviously makes him to react in petulant way..during the play…most of the youngsters would do the same….anyway…no one is perfect as it is…..even the best MF player i have ever seen Sscholes..has the rubbish rush wid him…that he goes in to utterly disastrous tackles..sometimes…how many reds he got till nw…..here i am not sayin we have to point out these things abt scholes but what i m sayin…every player has some negatives..in his play or the way he conducts on the pitch…the only bad thing abt ronaldos play he doesnt try to get the ball back when he looses…thts one thing we can forgive abt…given all his talent,goals and play….this is time where u need to support him rather than gettin on his back..like some dippers….
I concur Ancha! Scott u need to get ur head out of ur ass and look at the bigger picture! All flair players need a hard ass muthafucka to keep the dogs away! Zidane had Makalele. Robinho, Ronaldinho and Ronaldo had Emerson. Who does Ronny have? So rethink ur views and let’s get behind the team.
Well said Davetian. I agree with Scott re Ronaldo showing his frustration. Rooney is an example of a player who gets frustrated but, by god, does he work his balls off to win the ball back and make things happen. Gone are the days when we could blame Ronaldo’s behaviour on his naivety and youth. He’s a grown man now and it’s about time he grew up.
Man cpt – I am 100% behind the team. Voicing my frustration with Ronaldo doesn’t take away my support for Manchester United.
It would be lovely for Ronaldo if he had someone to fight his battles for him, I agree, but he doesn’t. Does that mean it’s OK for him to kick players off the ball and throw a tantrum when he isn’t protected? No. I don’t see other players behaving in the same way and I’m not naive enough to think Ronaldo is the only player in this league who is the target of fouls.
Maybe I am crazy but Ronaldo is a piece of shit. Fantastic footballer but do not forget last summer. No one in here should get attached and in many ways he has made a mockery out of the team as of late. He constantly complains throwing his hands in the air instead of just getting on with the game. He can’t control the ref, can’t control his teammates, and can only control himself. Its time he focused on his play and working hard for the team. He was disgraceful against Fulham and I was embarrassed to see him in our kit acting like an idiot. I am sick and tired of him and want him out of this club. I do not care how good or talented he is, I want United players not pre-Madonna’s who care more about individual awards than team glory.
How anyone can defend his antics is beyond me. If it was simply on the pitch and he was a fantastic person off the field ok, no complaints but look at his record. He ruined every United fans summer with his dream crap about Madrid. He constantly complains about his treatment on the pitch, complains to his teammates and about his teammates. Embarrassing them in front of millions and himself by his actions. He is becoming a cancer, one that needs to be removed. I understand he is young and has time to grow up but he is juvenille and does not act his age but rather his shoe size (pulled that one out of the drawer and dusted it off).
No players are perfect but O’Shea is not why Ronaldo is not playing well. He does not want to work anymore, he wants everyone else to work so he can take the glory. He doesn’t defend, never hustles, will take the easy way out at all cost, cries to the ref when things don’t go his way, and sit and pout as his team gets counter attacked. Is he fouled more than most, absolutely! Should he get more calls? Absolutely! Does he need to behave like an infant? No! No one should support this kind of behavior and I am shocked to see some doing just that. Its Ronaldo’s fault he is not performing at a high level, not Fergie’s for not playing Brown, nor O’Shea not performing or passing like Ronaldo wants. He isn’t working like he use to and expects the ball rather than earning it.
Anacha – his play is fantastic but I would rather have a bull dog worker like Rooney and Tevez than a pre-Madonna like Ronaldo any day of the week. he doesn’t have to go back and try to win the ball every time, just some times. he doesn’t have to be a church choir boy, but he does not need to act like a two-year old whose ice cream feel on the ground. He needs to wake up to reality and stop blaming others for his short comings.
I agree with Scott, can any of you honestly say that you wouldn’t get frustrated playing alongside Ronaldo at the moment?
I don’t think anyone other than Cristiano should shoulder the blame for his poor performances! That’s bullshit about needing other people to keep people from tackling him! He’s more than big enough to look after himself, he’s hardly a midget who gets bullied of the ball but the way he goes down you’d swear someone had just shot him! He might still be our top scorer but imagine how many he could have got or created if he actually gave a shit, like the Rooney’s and the Tevez’s of this world! I personally wouldn’t miss 08/09 Ronaldo, he’s not half as effective as he was in 07/08. We should all get behind the team but it’s hard to cheer on someone who looks like they couldn’t care less.
And just to add to what i said earlier, Ronaldo is what Ronaldo is. It was good enough for us last year, and the year before that. He didnt go around tackling players then and working his bollocks off, but he was the darling of the Old Trafford crowd. His histronics are him, and the guy is pure Hollywood. Ginola was a lazy cunt, but i bet 100% of newcastle fans would kill for a player with half his ability now.
Anyone remember that shit right winger the Dippers got from Real as part of the Owen deal? Cant remember his name for the life of me. He was talentless, but he ran all day. Would you rather have him over Ronaldo? No, me either.
He’s a luxury, and he always will be. That means other members of the team have to essentially be built around him. We’d all love to see a midfield of Messi, Ronaldo, Ribery, and Robben, but who’s gonna put the hard graft in? None of them will, we know that. Every team needs balance, and at the minute, due to the injuries we’ve got, we dont have that. I’m telling ya, next season if we can get Hargreaves and Brown on the pitch we’ll see the real Ronaldo back. And all you who are slating him now, will love him again.
Well said Si.I don’t think Brown’s absence is the problem either.Let’s face it guys.This is not the same climate that United had for Ronaldo last season.Quieroz(something like a father to him) has left,some players might not have forgotten last summer’s antics and his mind is clearly affected by Real’s interest.Only SAF believes that he can rekindle the magic of the last 2 seasons.I hope that he is right.
Manchester United’s top goal scorer this season…. and thats a FACT
davetian personally i have stopped loving him ever since last summer and will never love him again.It’s not always about trophies.I don’y know about the Real Madrid player,but if this summer we had to choose,i would say Tevez over Ronaldo in a heartbeat.Would that make us less competitive next season?Yes.At least i would have a player who playes his guts out for the team.Not someone who’s heart is elsewhere.
Si it’s not bullshit, it’s balance. Ronaldo is a bit of a fairy, we except that. He’s big and he’s strong, but he’s not a fighter and he never will be. He does need protection out on the pitch, and he’s not getting it. I find your comments about not being bothered about 08/09 Ronaldo absolutely typical of the fickle opinions some United fans have. And please remind me, how many has Tevez scored this year? For all his effort, not much is it? You cant have everything. Either you want this mercurial genuis who is capable of stuff most footballers could only dream of doing on the wing, or some one who will run all day with very little end product. He’s good enough to have a team built around him, and we should be recognising that.
Just posted a comment on another blog-entry stating exactly the same as this article.
i’m completely fed up with his behaviour on the pitch. it is certainly true, that he gets kicked all over the pitch, and yes this is unfair. somehow i still cant understand his attitude. remember the 2006/07 season? het got booed all across the country, the media were slagging on him… did he fall down and cry like a baby? no, not at all! he put in his best season for united so far, rising on the immense pressure coming from everywhere.
do you get the point? it’s a similiar case now. opposite players are constantly kicking him, he might does not get the protection he deserves… but with his behaviour he just says to the opponents: “you are right, continue kicking me, it’s the only way you can stop me”.
i was really impressed on his reaction in 2006, i do think he’s got some character and attitude… but he proves me wrong this season (and he proved me wrong last summer, but thats a different topic…).
i hope sir alex has a word with him, as i’m not too sure wheter the problem gets solved with gary returning to the pitch.
Tevez this year has scored 6 goals less than Ronaldo having played less games and playing basically without a contract.Last season is in the past and many things have changed ever since.
Few things:
· Both Messi and Ribery are extremely honest and hardworking players.
· George Best and Pele had seven shades of shite kicked out of them, they never reacted petulantly.
· People were critical of CR7 last season. Even during his fantastic goal run, there were people, myself included, who championed his ability but wondered why he ruined the party with a poor attitude.
· He’s certainly not solely responsible for our current blip.
· If you’ve ever played ball you’ll understand how distracting it is to have a player acting like a child around you. Blaming your pass, when he hadn’t put the effort in to get into possession. Blaming your run when he failed to put the ball in the right position. It’s petulance plain and simple and I for one am glad that Utd fans aren’t blinkered when discussing their own players. There’s plenty of teams who will never write a critical word of their players, that’s not how we operate. Everything is up for discussion and being critical of players, coaches, management, fans is part and parcel of creating a successful environment.
· I’m going to stop my rant
Bring on Villa and lets get behind all the players, CR7 included. Who knows he might see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Not about trophies, dont delude yourself. Without Ronaldo in the side we’d be challenging for a lot less thats for sure. If he really wanted to be at Madrid, he’d be there now. Sure, he dicked around in the summer but when it came down to it he chose United so we ought to show a little bit more faith in the guy.
Another fact is that SAF broke his back last summer to keep Ronaldo, whereas the whole Tevez saga is just dragging on and on to an inevitable parting of the ways in the summer. I love Tevez for his effort, but at a club like this i personally think it’s not enough in the position he plays.
A team needs balance. Pure and simple. You can not have a team of ball players and dribblers. No one has ever really had success this way, and no one ever will. For every luxury player, you need a hard working player to back him up and be his legs. That’s all i’m saying, Ronaldo hasnt had that support this season that made him so successful this season. If you dont believe me just look at the bare facts (this seasons performance, compared to last season).
swissred is right.The 06-07 season was his best because he was more of a team player then.Ryan Giggs has said so himself.I do agree that he could have handled it better.If he was really passionate about staying at United.Did you see a tabloid line today?”Ronaldo might leave because of how they are treating him”.He didn’t just find that out did he?Nope.Just looking for an excuse.
Man cbt – Way of base buddy! We should always question the team and think about what is best. He doesn’t have a strong man in the squad? What’s Vidic? The last mid-field strong man was Keane and CR7 was one of the reasons he left! Furthermore are you suggesting that Zidane was as good as he was because of another player? Zidane was who he was because he was a fantastic footballer. Makalele didn’t threaten anybody if you touch Zizzou I am taking you out. That is ridiculous. it is ridiculous to think that would even work. If I know hitting Ronaldo, kicking him a couple of times takes him out of the game, I will take my licks from Makalele to win the game. If he would grow up and play this contact support the right way he might get more respect from people. Ronaldinho got his shit cleaned some times at PSG, he continued to play through it, complained very seldomly and never without a smile, and had no body guard. That is simply a ridiculous notion.
Davetian I am most definitely not a fickle United fan, I’ve backed Ronaldo all season and I’ve listened to every excuse as to why he wasn’t playing as well as he was last year, his injury at the beginning of the season, his head turned by Real, not having Queiroz around anymore. His performance last Saturday was the straw that broke the camels back for me. The simple fact is that he simply isn’t giving us 100%, he never looks like his heart is fully in it. For about 10 minutes on Saturday he looked pissed off and I thought he might kick into gear but it didn’t happen. This is when we need our big players to stand up and be counted, losers make excuses, winners don’t need to! I just want him to get up off his arse and make something happen, he’s not thinking about Manchester United Football Club, he’s thinking about Cristiano Ronaldo and what Cristiano can win. There’s always room for flair players but not for selfish players.
Btw Tevez hasn’t had as many minutes on the field as Ronaldo so there’s no point comparing there goal scoring record this year.
The only protection he could have had are the refs.But they can’t trust a player who in the past has tried to con them.I have said it in the past.With Ronaldo it’s a new set of rules.He can get hacked down and not get a free kick but at the same time he can bitch,moan and even kick away at the opposition.I still can’t believe that Rooney got sent off instead of him on Saturday.
Well said Swissred, Jig, Costas and Kevin!
I never said Messi and Ribery werent hardworking. But they aint gonna do someone else’s donkey work are they. And i cant pretend i ever watched Best and Pele, but are honestly telling me that they never complained to a ref?
I dunno if you bothered to notice, but not once have i condoned Ronaldos petulance. I’ve pointed out that that is who he is, and people should stop blaming him for our recent drop in form by highlighting it. And i’ve played a lot of football, coached it for a few years too, so dont try and insult my intelligence by saying if i’d ever played ball (?) i’d understand. What i do understand is how good he is, and i’m sick of people being so blinkered as to cast him as the villian every time their is a mini crisis at United.
Ronaldo’s attitude has always been his downfall but, again, that is who he is and it hasnt changed. I didnt like the flirting over the summer, but i’m damn glad he stayed. We’re a better team with him.
I don’t agree davetian, I actually don’t think we’re a better team with him. You only have to look at the Chelsea game this season at Stamford Bridge. With Park on the wing closing off Ashley Cole or Bosingwa we were cruising in that first half, then Ronaldo comes on and all of sudden Chelsea start finding more space, we would have won that game if Ronaldo had stayed on the bench.
yeah and had scholes not got sent off then we would have won the fulham game, had the team decided to turn up against liverpool im sure we would have won that too. COme to think of it… this credit crunch thing…. surely Ronaldo is to blame, bet he’s hiding Bin Laden in his mansion too…..
Fucking hell, your quoting tabloids now!!! Oh well, if the Sun says it then it must be true!!! Or was it the Daily Star? Christ almighty.
Costas – the only protection he could’ve got was from the refs? Thats just nonsense. Players always need protection out on the pitch from there teammates. I dunno if you ever saw him play, but that was about 50% of what made Roy Keane great!! The oppostion knew that if they fouled Beckham or Giggs, Keane would take the first chance he got to let them know that it wasnt okay. We miss that, and the team that went out on saturday had no one really capable of doing that.
Instead of me trying to answer everyone on here who seems to want to disagree with me, why dont you answer me this. Do any of you honestly believe that Ronaldo’s form has not suffered because of not having Brown behind him all season? Because is you look, that is all im actually saying. I’m not condoning his actions, petulance, or histronics. I am saying that he’s always been that way, so why is it suddenly such a massive problem now? Oh yeah, we just lost two games.
Oh and to the person who says it would be unfair to compare Ronaldo and Tevez due to there game time. Ronaldo has appeared in 2 more games than Tevez. I appreciate that a lot of his appearances will of been as a sub, but he has only appeared in 2 games less. and of the 12 goals he’s scored this season, 6 we’re in the carling cup, with 4 coming in one game if memory serves. And his 3 goals in 20 league appearances dont get me excited either.
Si – I seem to remember ronaldo looking very sharp in that game. Dont forget that VDS also went off injured in that game too. And I seem to remember someone being particularly at fault for Kalous goal, not Ronaldo. And if you think we are a better side without him then I’d honestly have to question if you have ever seen United play, or if you just read the result and match report in the News Of The World and make your opinions from that.
Sorry davetian, it wasn’t my intention to imply you hadn’t played football / had no understanding of the game. My point was solely that anyone who has played can surely understand when one player isn’t pulling in the direction of the rest it creates big problems.
I certainly don’t agree that CR7 is responsible for our current dip in form. That doesn’t exclude him from criticism; as our highest profile player he’s there to be examined. Simple as that.
Davetian who was quoting tabloids?
You’re being quite subjective there with the actual apperances, I’m sure if we were to actually check how many minutes each player was on the pitch it would be a different story.
I honestly don’t agree that Wes Brown’s absence is affecting Ronaldo’s form. I think you’re placing too much emphasis on Brown crunching a few opposition players whenever they rough up Ronaldo.
davetian i believe that Quieroz’s absence hampers Ronaldo much more that Brown’s.Brown is not his bodyguard and no winger ever needed his full back for that reason.We have missed someone like Roy(i am 26,think i might have seen him?) in 2 ways.For the reason you said but to else straighten out players like Ronaldo when they start losing their focus.Hopefully sometime we might talk about this without other people on your back.We don’t disagree as much.Just at some minor subjects.We will work it out.
No problem Jig, i completely agree with you there.
Si – Costas was quoting a tabloid. Check it out, 16.25. And I openly said that a lot of Tevez’s appearances have been from the bench, so i wasnt being subjective in the slightest was I? So doesnt the difference in performance level suggest to you that Ronaldo might be missing having Brown behind him? Or do you just think he’s choosing to have a lower performance level?
Si i quoted tabloids.And maybe it was an exaggeration.Personally,i agree with that tabloid that Ronaldo might be looking for a way out.I hope i am wrong.
You’re getting away from my point though, I said in that Chelsea game after he went off for Scholes and Giggs came into the middle Ronaldo allowed both wingbacks more space and time to get forward. Which at the beginning of the season under Scolari was there main threat. Also I don’t read the news of the world or the sun or any other rag and I am also a coach. This is my opinion of Ronaldo and only Ronaldo can change that! I apperciate that you’re also only giving your opinion but I don’t agree with it.
I do think Queiroz leaving has had a effect, but purely out on the pitch I feel that he has missed having someone like Brown around. Obviously we disagree there, as i feel a lot of players have needed someone like that around. I look at it in the same way that Heskey tends to make every striker he plays with look good. He’s a donkey, but he does the things in a game that other players dont. I just feel that Ronaldo needs someone to do his donkey work, and that’s why Brown has been sorely missed. I know Beckham could handle himself a lot better, but if he was ever having trouble with a full back The Neviller would always come in and back him up. I just view it as the balance each wing needs, and Brown provides that better than anyone else at United.
And i dont mind people being on my back, i could argue about football all day. I just object to people having opinions without having reasons why. For instance claiming United are a better team without Ronaldo because in one game against very tough opposition we we’re winning but after he came on we ended up drawing.
The tabloid title was from the Daily Mail and it impiies that United are blaming the referees’ lack of protection should Ronaldo want to leave again.Take it for whatever it’s worth.Ronaldo would have never got 42 goals again.This season he hasn’t got into may goalscoring positions due to Berba’s inclusion.I am not accusing him for not getting us 42 goals again.I want commitment out of all UNited players.That’s all there is to it.
Si just so i’m clear you are referring to the 1-1 draw at stamford bridge earlier in the season yeah?
No one knows if we are worst off without him davetian.Did anyone believe that United would have a season like 06-07 after Ruud left?So we can’t know for sure.All i am saying is that sometimes we should put pride before titles.I get where you are going with Wes.O’Shea and Rafael can’t do the same thing for sure,but Ronaldo hasn’t helped his situation either.
Yes he is davetian.In that game we were pushed back because Chelsea were more confident than us then.And Kuszczak was at fault for the goal.Ronaldo wasn’t bad there.
Costas – I agree that he hasnt helped himself, and i agree that when Ruud left i didnt envisage winning anything the year after. But still, on his game he’s the best there is and we should hopefully focus on getting him back to that performance level.
With regards to the Chelsea game we we’re pushed back by a very good side pushing for an equaliser, which is not unusual. However Giggs played no part in that game, and when Ronaldo came on Hargreaves moved inside alongside Fletch. Also Si, perhaps you have forgotten that O’Shea came on for Park a while before Chelsea scored? So the two players you credited with holding Cole and Bosingwa back we’re in a different position or off the pitch altogether. And yet your blaming Ronaldo for allowing BOTH these players to push forward? Forgive me if i’m wrong, but dont wingers generally cover one side of the pitch? And you wonder why i think your blinkered? Also, is that not a tactical mistake by SAF, not Ronaldo? Come on, if your gonna argue get your facts right and stop saying incorrect things just to try and support your views. And in case you had forgotten also, their goal came from a set piece.
Any how have to go. Been a pleasure people.
Yeah I was talking about the 1-1 draw, I thought the reason why Chelsea were able to push on and get an equaliser was because we had both Ronaldo and Berbatov pushed right up top and giving Cole and Bosingwa too much freedom. In the first half this wasn’t happening because we had Park and Giggs closing them down. Then again though, this could have been why Fergie put him on, to maybe try and hit them on the break with Ronaldo getting in behind the fullbacks pushing forward so maybe that was a poor example. I understand that he’s a flair player and I know what you mean about having a strong fullback to back him up but it works both ways, surely the right winger should help out the right full in his defensive duties as well, instead of sitting on the ground and having a bit of a hissy fit! As an overall unit I feel we could be stronger with a Ronaldo that didn’t throw his toys out of the pram when things don’t go his way but instead picked himself up, dusted himself off and got on with winning us the match! At the moment though he is getting to become more of a liability than we need right now and is starting to become more Ginola than Cantona!! (I’m not saying Ronaldo plays like either of these players, I’m just saying that one was a prima donna who looked great when he had the ball, the other was an all round football genius who wasn’t afraid to get his shorts dirty!)
davetian do you suppose that Fergie has overexposed him?As i said above,barring the cup games as well as the Aalborg game,Ronaldo has played in every high profile game we have had ever since he returned.It’s as if Fergie wants to milk him like there is no tomorrow.He drops both Rooney and Tevez after Liverpool but he didn’t drop Ronaldo.Next thing we know,Ronaldo will play against both Villa and Porto.Some people complain about Nani.I agree to an extent but why not put him instead of Ronaldo when we play with our first XI once in a while?
Sorry I just saw your post there, I was busy writing mine. You’re right it was actually Hargreaves not Giggs on the other wing.
Friedel has red card rescinded….
would u believe it??? this is a fucking joke…
MAny red cards for oppontnts against Pool have been rescinded.I wonder why.Of course we never chaded our cases did we?
chased i mean
Yes! what a surprise the F.A. doing that.
It’s all cock! it was all great a few weeks ago when we were flyin high. Now we are having a “blip” it’s who shall we blame. go back a few weeks on this blog and see how cocky some of the comments from all us reds were. Lets stop the whingeing and back the team and lets for fuck sake stop goin on like dippers
Tallared: Just typing the same thing as you! Well said. As for the rest of you pack it in.
No surprise there. I thought Rooney’s “light” sentence had a catch!!
Are the FA going to send Brad a stern letter warning him of future conduct?
rc7: they will send him a letter saying have a good game against those Red bastards is more like.
sunderland’s McCartney has red card overturned..(which means he’ll face us at the stadium of light)… seriously, the fa r taking the piss on purpose…this is insane!!
spot on Rob…
for fuck’s sake!
it’s a conspiracy
It’s no use talking about the FA’s conspiracy about something we have never been a part of.May i ask again why we never appealed for Vidic?
Or for any player for that matter?
Costas, don’t know
Maybe SAF was thinking of “resting” him after the LFC game anyway.
Plus seeing the proximity of the CL QF maybe thinking of saving him for that game also. In hindsight maybe it was worth an appeal?
But we have never ever done it.I know that it is a brave stance honouring the fact that the referee’s decision is final but this has become ludicrous.Players are getting their cards rescinded left and right.We have reached a point where it’s not noble on our part,just plain stupid.
Costas
Agreed, but maybe not the best time for SAF to start publicly making noises against the FA etc. We need to regroup and unite as a team. Sound like sour grapes?
We do need to regroup and unite but even if we do we can’t beat the FA as well.Next thing we know,Rooney will get sent off for looking at a ref the wrong way and we still won’t appeal.
“Aston Villa goalkeeper Brad Friedel has had the red card he received in Sunday’s defeat at Liverpool rescinded by the Football Association on Tuesday
The American was sent off after 63 minutes of the 5-0 drubbing at Anfield after he was adjudged have brought down Fernando Torres after the striker burst through on goal.
Villa’s appeal was upheld today, meaning Friedel will be available for their next Premier League game at Manchester United on April 5.” – soccernet.com
so what he didnt bring torres down? so it wasnt a penalty then? was he not the last man when he brought him down? should they not rescind the goal as well?
it’s a bloody joke as is this one
“Grobbelaar tips Liverpool keeper Reina to score
Liverpool legend Bruce Grobbelaar would not be surprised to see Jose Reina add a goalscoring threat to his list of attributes.
Former goalkeeper Grobbelaar, who was a member of Liverpool’s 1990 championship-winning squad, has been so impressed by Spanish shot-stopper Reina he considers him an attacking weapon for Rafael Benitez.”
the dippers start winning 2 games while we drop points and all hell breaks lose. what utter tosh. people forget we’re still the top of the league.
as for ronaldo im with costas and scott on this one. it’s all about attitude really simple as that. you can talk about differences in position and other players missing who could have been protecting him but it all boils down to how you react to these things, the arms flailing and exaggerated whinging will never help the team and when the rest of them sees that its alright to behave like such a spoilt brat they’d think it’s okay to follow suit, granted it hasnt been at all fair to us, but dusting ourselves up getting on with it and sticking it to the authorities in the right way epitomises United really and commitment to the cause is all we ask, hes got to know his place and remember not everything in the world revolves around him.
Oh boy.You know that this country has lost the plot on this title race when Grobelaar is asked about his opinion.Let’s ask Ruddock as well.I agree about the goal being rescinded as well.This thing only happens in England.At least use the appeal for extreme cases.Right now it’s like a candy store.Everybody who appeals gets their card rescinded.Except of course us.We never appeal.
Ronaldo is the most talented player on the planet, playing on the best team in the globe (that has recently hit a hurdle). Lets face it Manchester United are playing out of sorts because our starting 11 need to be chosen a little wiser, we are fatigued, and it will take time to fully incorporate Berva into the team. Ferguson has made a choice to play Berva instead of Tevez-for better of worse, only time will tell. Ronaldo’s petulance is down the list of the reasons for our recent slump.
Furrball – You are joking about what the bung meister said, surely? What the fuck.How cocky are the dippers getting, couple of good results and they are world beaters. The FSW is as arrogant as ever. Let them enjoy their moment in the sun as the premier league title is staying at Old Trafford.
Did anyone see Saint Stevie on the Champions League Weekly programme confessing his lifelong support for the dippers ? Thought it was Everton back in the day Stevie? Cunt.
denton…. how many of CR7′s goals this season have come from the penalty spot/ free kicks…. and how many has he got from open play?
Tevez has also got penalties,but that’s not the point.Compare the way Fergie has treated the 2 of them and compare what each one of them gives us on the field.That’s where it get embarassing for Mr CR7.
He needs to fucking grow up. He’s turning into a Stevie Me – all about me and not the team. Not being funny, but when we played Fulham without him in the cup, we looked much more creative going forward, due to the fact that our play wasn’t being held up with his childish antics when things weren’t going his way. Neville needs to have a word in his shell.
davetian, donibrasco i’m on your side.
Ronaldo is like he is. We don’t have a player who will not make his abcense felt. And i honestly don’t think he doesn’t give his all. He has become more of a team player if you talk about attack.
For everything else we have 10 more players.
Well said Kings! There is no way he has become more of a team player, he’s the complete opposite right now, he’s a luxury and needs to show us why he’s the current World Player of the Year!
“it will take time to fully incorporate Berva into the team. Ferguson has made a choice to play Berva instead of Tevez-for better of worse”
Right now – and the season is not yet over – it’s been “for worse”. Berbatov has been at the core of the team’s slower tempo and the marginalizing of last year’s attacking trident. Of course, time will tell but it’s now almost seven months since he was signed and played his first game; he’s been an automatic selection since then. And, sadly, there’s been little sign of improvement and, therefore, lots of cause for worry that this has been a failed experiment.
To put myself in the manager’s shoes, assuming that he give a fiddler’s fuck about my opinion, then I’d say as follows:
1) Bench Berbatov and use him as an “impact sub”
2) Play Rooney, Tevez and Ronaldo in last year’s formation
3) Play Park/Nani as fourth forward as situation demands
4) Never play Giggs/Scholes together; and limit their playing time to games against the relegation-contenders in EPL – not FACup/not CL
5) Make Fletcher/Carrick first-choice in midfield, with Anderson as first-choice substitute
After this footling “international break” we are headed into the real crunch-time and there are really only two or three serious EPL fixtures – all at home v. AstonVilla, Tottenham, Arsenal; I can’t see that in the next eight weeks there is going to be much “fixture congestion” or even an unduly taxing number of games so I’d be inclined to settle on a first-eleven and play them together most of the time even if it means snubbing Berbatov, Giggs, and Scholes. Such is life.
If UTD are going to win, win, win then they are going to have to re-locate that pressing, up-tempo, one-touch passing game that allows their class to rise above the mere dross of their opponents. Slowing down play merely plays into opponents’ hands.
Speed kills. It works for Barcelona and it will work for UTD – our front four (even including Park/Nani) are neither slower nor less skilled than the Barcelona group of Eto’o, Messi, Henry, and Iniesta. Pep Guardiola has done an excellent job of letting his guys loose – SAF should do the same.
Yawn, yet more flak aimed at Ronaldo. Might just be the time to, y’know, actually get behind the team and the players rather than this constant need to find something/someone to criticise or scapegoat.
Lets slag ronaldo…how original.
Lets conveniently Forget everything he does right and just look at the negatives.
Give it a rest.
he has done the wrong thingin the summer but thats the past.
He is always going to be a bit of a primadonna but the upside is HUGE!!
Viva ronaldo!!
i dont care if he scores a hundred goals for us, his recent kickouts and whining and ridiculous body language on the pitch are embarrassing the club and doing our boys out there no good. worst off the boy thinks he can get away with it. i cant believe ppl actually believe a goal machine matters more than the club’s reputation and long term success.
and for the record, if i had a twat like that on my sunday team, i’d give him more than just a good sorting out.
WTF…It’s a team sport (not golf) stop pinning the blame on one member of a team of eleven.
scott- i feel ur becoming a victim of the shit that the gutter press try to make us believe. they like to turn people against us and our players, many fall for it, but its a lot more sad when our own do so.
if the press wanted to make a point of showing pics of ronnies “lack of commitment” last season, then this article may have been written then, maybe not by u, but by someone else. the fact that he nearly went to madrid has made an opening for the gutter press to try to convince us he wants out. its clearly working with some.
ronaldo was stroppy and didnt do an awful lot of donkey work in all of his seasons here. surerly this has been obvious to yous all. however, just as we have a wobble on at the moment i feel its a bit silly to be making a big issue out of it now. ronaldo IS NOT, the main reason weve dropped points in the last two matches. ronaldo, HAS ALWAYS, been targeted by opposing defenders and has VERY RARELY, been properly protected by the, nothing short of diabolical, refs in this country at the minute.
ive been livid on many occasions at some of the stuff thats goes unpunished on ronnie, i can only imagine how frustrated he feels.
as the media in this country love it, the more it goes on. someone suggested earlier that giggs had to cope so why cant ronnie? giggs wasnt hated by most of the nation when he was young. people, unlike with ronaldo, werent desperate to see him fail. if anyone thinks that you can compare the public image of ronaldo to giggs, well, i aint gonna point out the obvious differences!
in short, get of his back guys. dont please abus everywhere by joining the hate circus!