Howard Webb has today confessed he made the wrong decision in United’s 5-2 victory over Tottenham Hotspur. I wonder if now he will also appologise for doing nothing to stop United scoring a further four goals and not sending Palacios off for his disgraceful challenge on Ronaldo.
“I’ve looked at it again and I think it was a mistake but we make these decisions honestly,” Webb conceded. “It’s not always easy to see the way the play pans out from pitch level. I could see the Manchester United player touch the ball and saw him get clattered by the goalkeeper but didn’t see the extra deviation from the goalkeeper’s fingers touching the ball. I’m disappointed as I always strive for perfection. I’ll look at the tape in detail later in the week and try to avoid it happening again in the future. I never want to have a negative impact on a game and I get no pleasure from not reaching the high standards we set ourselves. But show me a man who’s never made a mistake and I’ll show you a man who’s done nothing.”
Show me a man who admits mistakes that suit the ABUs’ cause and i will show you a man with no balls.
Disgraceful, that’s all i can say.If you want to “man up”,at least do it for other mistakes as well.Palacios nearly took out Ronaldo and we could have had a new Eduardo situation on our hands.Isn’t that more serious?That thugs like this are constantly getting away with murder? United better be on their game at the Riverside because they will be practcally wrestling us to the ground and they will be getting away with it.
Spot on Costas. Webb is clearly a weak man pandering to the mass of ABUs in the media, for which I regard him with contempt, and for his silence over the career-threatening lunge by Palacios. Where’s the apology and admission of error for that one?
Don’t know where the fuck Webb foot’s reputation as our so called “best referee” ever came from. He’s every bit as weak and useless as Mike Riley.
Well, the press have got what they wanted on this one, I now wonder if they will now hound the liverpool/ hull ref to admit his two mistakes? Those decisions could also have a dramatic impact at the end of the season. My guess is a resounding NO!
No more penalties for us this season then.
Only in the Champion’s League OP. At least there they would have sent off Palacios.
I like it when the world is against us… its good for the team… we prefer it… coz its us against them… “Siege Mentality”… its when we play best…
I think we would be a poorer team without the ABU tossers… coz it just gets our players backs up… and the fans for that matter… that why tonight im expecting electricity in the stands… and sparks on the pitch..
COME ON UNITED…
B E L I E V E
You boys have got a Champions League semi-final tonight, yet you’re still banging on about last Saturday’s game that you won 5-2, and you have the gall to tell us to get over it.
Smash The scum tonight though.
what 2 mistakes rob the red
i read every newspaper front to back since sunday and i never read about and ref mistakes in the liverpool match. which means it didnt happen
also
am i wrong in thinkin if carrick touched th ball away from the keeper then it was a peno
What a sucker Mr.Webb is…..he fell for the press’s comments.
What about Palcios was that a msitake also.
Was the penalty not given in the FA cup semi final a mistake also?
Refs are humans and are poised to err….if we continue getting at them we will kill the game of football.
Also, Spurs were still winning and surely that penalty didn’t turn the game. They crumbled and that’s all….
Lightweightandlame it’s the “independent” journalists that can’t let it go. This has overshadowed Giggs getting the Player of the Year award as well as the the Ch.League Semis.They were so obsessed that they forced a half-assed apology out of the weakling.I hope everyone is happy.But if god forbid,Ronaldo gets handed his leg on his hands all of them will be having crocodile tears. How is it that Chelsea get praised for their performance yesterday?They kept the clean sheet because Ballack never got sent off and Henry wsn’t given a penalty.Yet we produce the best attacking display of the year and they get on our backs about the penalty.If this doesn’t scream ABU i don’t know what does.
@Lightweightandlame
scott brings united fans the news that is about united on that day
Gotta hate: It’s bollox innit?
On behalf of all Spurs fans:
ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!!!
i would also blame the commentators on that tackle by palacios.if they had then said it was a red, people & the media would be more aware of it & also the ref.as always its ABU’s
Sorry to intrude on a private matter …….
Palacious was disgraceful in challenging as he did, but did NOT make contact. The ref spoke to him and made it clear it was not to happen again, and it didn’t ….. so, actually, no harm done. We crumbled, not entirely surprisingly, in that situation, and that’s OUR problem. We will all argue these things but I hope you will at least concede that we were very good before Webb’s error (work in progress). Please feel free to stuff the Arse tonight. See you next season ……
Setanta is the biggest pile of shit that I still pay for.
rob the red
the thing that makes it the biggest load of bollox is that its just the norm
I’m sick of people going on about it now! A goal would have come thats for sure, more would have followed.
Mistakes do happen yes, Webb has admitted that it may have been a mistake.
TommyHarmer – Cristiano Ronaldo went in like Palacios did on derby day, except he just went in with one foot. He didn’t make any contact with Andy Cole but was given a straight red for intent. I find it hard to believe you’d be arguing that a career threatening tackle like that shouldn’t get a red card if it was Wayne Rooney on Aaron Lennon!
Hang on one minute………………… with reference to the Palacios incident… “He made the challenge, but didnt connect, so no harm done”…
The letter of the law is that if there is intent, then it is punishable… i remember Le King, in a pre season game up at Ibrox doing exactly the same thing and “didnt make contact”… but was still red carded for the intent….
I think that is bollox that statement… sorry… at the end of the day.. it was a penalty decision which could have gone either way… and we got the rub of the green, unlike the penalty shout against Everton at Wembley.. again it was rub of the green…
All of this is media bollox blew right out of proportion… and Palacios is very lucky coz if that tackle would have connected, it could have put Spurs into the shite of £250m in a lawsuit if it would have wrecked CR7’s career, due to the clubs value on him, then potential loss of revenue on him over the future years… and then there is his potential salary if it would have ruined his career…
I think Spurts fans should be grateful that tackle never connected… and the media have missed out on that one… coz they are all ABU titwanks.
its no mistake ! he got it spot on ! should not even apologise !
since when do u agree bringing a player down then touching the ball is not a foul !
webb u got it spot on ! fcuking media and bunch cockle spaniels keep off !
Honesty game is all what we want.palacios was more of rugby.
- Gotta hate tiny tears, fair enough, but like others, I’m fed up of hearing about it now. Don’t know why this site keeps coming up on Spurs Newsnow, but it is one of the better football blogs.
I think any right minded Spurs fan knows that Webb didn’t intentionally award the penalty and as I’ve personally seen myself on numerous occasions, we would of collapsed anyhow.
People like Jenas should do their talking on the pitch. God only knows he does enough it. It was refreshing to see Leldley King’s comments on our official site saying that there were no excuse for what happened after.
Anyway, good luck tonight, but with the refs up there, I doubt you need any
Lightweightandlame
not just one the the better football blogs
its voted the best british football blog
nice one for the well wishs against arsenal
im hoping for a win and or a fantastic game of ball between 2 top class teams
@TommyHarmer:
Read the football rules. It doesnt matter if theres contact or not, its the intent that matters. Scholes didnt hit the Liverpool player when punching the air a few years ago at Anfield but he was rightly sent off for trying to. Palacios didnt hit Ronaldo because Ronaldo was too quick for him – but he certainly tried to having both feet a yard or so off the ground. Its a text book red card – suggesting anything else is just ignorance.
LADS IF THATS ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY ABOUT SPURS PALACIOS THEN IT SHOWS A TAD GILT WHAT ABOUT MODERICK FOUL RONALDO SHOULD HAVE HAD A YELLO AND THEN ONE FOR IS SHIRT HE TOTALY LOST IT JUST LIKE PALACIOS AND HIS TEACHER WHAS A MR. BRUCE EX UTD CAPT NOT LONG AGO HE MADE LOADS OF MISTAKES .ITS THEM 5 GOALS THAT UTD SHOULD SAY SORRY FOR ALL THE REFS BAD MISTAKES CAME TO GOALS AND GOOD SKILL BY ROONY AND CO.THATS THE PROBLEM 2-2 WOULD HAVE BEEN THE RIGHT AMMENDED RESULT . BUT HAVING SAID ALL THAT KING WOODGATE CORLUKA EKOTOO GOMES WHERE ALL TO BLAME FOR 4 GOALS AND THATS THE BARE FACTS THE REF STARTED IT AND THEM LOT FINISHED IT .GOOD LUCK TONIGHT 6-0 WOULD HEAL THE HURT .
whats this spurs cunt raving on about.
anyway howard webb has justified the tag jenas gave him.. he is indeed a weak person who crumbles under pressure. “i saw what i saw and right then i saw a penalty.” wouldve won him a lot more admiration rather than this weak willed rubbish hes spewed out.
You should really try clicking your caps lock button agian, Davspurs – you might have some decent points to make but writing a post in full caps makes it wasted as you look like a retard trying to force your point through by “yelling”.
Anyway, on your Ronaldo point: Yeah, the challenge where he left his foot out probably deserved a yellow – but do you honestly think he wouldve pulled off his shirt if he was already on a yellow card? I know most people dont think he’s too bright, but come on.
Steve Bruce taught Palacios how to tackle? Be more desperate, willl you.
I’ve been looking round but I haven’t been able to spot the apology from Martin Atkinson for his howlers at Hull. But what do you expect when you have such a heavily biased media.
I read an article a few years back which named the clubs our top sports reporters support. Very few follow United but the majority are Liverpool fans, and as the papers are run from London most of their bosses support Spurs, West Ham or Chelsea (Arsenal, curiously enough, hardly had a voice). Then add in the broadcast mix: BBC’s MoTD with its Scouse-heavy couch (don’t get me started about the disgraceful Alan Green on Radio 5!), Setanta with its objective McManaman, Sky with experts like Jamie Redknapp and Souness…is it any wonder United never get a fair shake.
I mean, they are REAL experts – for instance, when the Champions League quarter-final/semi draw was made, Sky’s presenter turned to their resident talking head and asked him to predict the finalists. ‘Liverpool v Porto,’ he sagely pronounced. Yes, Phil Thompson really knows his stuff.
On the subject of which, when Thompson gets excited reporting Liverpool for Sky Sports Saturday his screeches get higher and higher, to the extent that it’s only a matter of time before dogs are the only ones able to hear him. Apt really.
MKRed – Don’t fet me started again on the cunt that is Alan Green. He is a fuckin disgrace and I am loath to pay my tv licence for the “Corporation” only to hear him spewing his bile about United. Summat needs doing but don’t know where to start. But as Failsworth said as long as the ABU’s are on our case United will perform and win trophies.
Sorry MK in putting “don’t get me started” I have now realised you put these exact words. I wasn’t copying!
Respect to the Spurs fan remembering Tommy Harmer. I saw him several times and he was a great player, small, spindly legs, nobbly knees, head like a large ghostly skull, but what ball-control and sublime skill under pressure from big heaving defenders, picking out perfectly weighted passes ‘through the eye of a needle’. Given how many over-hyped super stars Spurs have had since Tommy’s day, it’s great to have his memory kept alive nearly half a century after he left the club. And I say this of course as a United supporter.
MKRed, great post. Loved the last line .
TommyHarmer what if you try to shoot someone but somehow miss him?
You’ll get done for attempted murder, won’t you.
Palacios went with iontent to criple Ronaldo. That was obvious even from the planes flying over Old Trafford that evening. What makes it worse, the referee was there and saw everything.
Web may say whatever he wants, but Carrick got tripped in the penalty area before the goalie touched the ball. Who is to say that Carrick could not get to the loos ball first if he had stayed on his feet?
we are discussing the issue for months but what do we get as a result ?
and again. can anybody explain HOW can you call the penalty decision terrible ? HOW ?
they are really desperate. i knew they hate the teams that are succesful but during the time we were winning 3 titles in England in arrow i didn’t read the english media. now it’s all very clear.
@ MKRed
thank you for the conclusion. we can say end the issue after your comment.
I watched this pen loads of times and it really is a 50/50 imo, not the worst fookin decision of all time as the press would have you believe. Did Redknapp go mad about the pen we didnt get int the Carling Cup final? Also on MOTD they spouted their bollocks about what a bad decision it was but when the granny stabbers come on, not a mention about a short corner they took from OUTSIDE the corner spot by a good foot which lead to a goal. Dont you just love the ABU’s
I still don’t understand why the fact that Carrick was fouled by Gomes inside the box doesn’t qualify as a “foul” and therefore a penalty. I’ve seen various video replays of that incident and while it looks like Gomes touches the ball from the ref’s view, behind the play, when you look at it again from the rear view – i.e., from behind the Tottenham goal – it doesn’t look like Gomes touched the ball but, rather, that Carrick had moved it wide and was going to use his left foot to roll it into goal.
About Palacios – hey, it was Ronaldo ! Don’t you know that GBH against him is OK ? That boy winked !! And, of course, there are precedents – Pogatetz and Stephen Taylor both tried to decapitate him and weren’t even “talked to”.
It is to be expected, but this is a load of pathetic bias whingeing.
You are Utd, you are well known for getting decisions when you need them. Spurs cannot beat Utd at Old Trafford, this has now been proven by the pen, the 10 minutes of added time to allow Tevez to equalize, and the fact that a ball 3 feet over the line is not a goal at the Theatre of Dreams.
As for Ronaldo, he cheats all the time and constantly gets away with little off the ball acts of spite and petulance. Kicking out at Modric etc, there is no wonder he is universally admired for his skill but loathed for his character.
Anyway, get over it, you won 5-2 and you will win the league. And I don’t care how many dodgy pens you get if they come against the scum tonight.
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Oooodz Said,April 29th, 2009 @10:54 I’m sick of people going on about it now! A goal would have come thats for sure, more would have followed. ”
That comment epitomises why some people see all fans as blind, deluded morons.
Having insisted the refere must have been right to give the penalty, these same inadequates now state that a goal would have come for sure.
reading these comments show that some fans are so infantile that, having got that wrong, then Palacios should have been sent off for NEARLY making a foul tackle. for the infantile Scholes was booked after two kicks, A yellow before he actually touched the ball. He committed further fouls. The referee gave him some leeway but that’s what football and refereeing are about. Decisions-some correct some wrong. Please think before hitting the keyboard as there are too many biased, deluded fans bringing normal, decent fans into disrepute.
Its us against everyone, it always has, and its done us good so far. ABU media, they can have it all they want, only shows how desperate they need to get just to get some “moral” high ground, because on the pitch, we stand the highest.
Bottomline, I do not see how it is not a penalty. I have yet to hear anyone explain it to me clearly why it is not a penalty, even Webb did not explain why it was a mistake, he only said he thinks it is, but not why. Anyway, I dno’t care anymore, we win, and in our eyes, we have won fairly, that is good enough. The real cheats are Liverpool, Mascherano diving for the freekick, Lucas handball. Go back all the way to their CL win in 05, where Gerrard dive to get the penalty. That is how you cheat to win something.
Tell me how we have cheated to win anything? Yes we may have gotten some dubious decisions over the years, but never have we actually won something based on those decisions. Liverpool have
SO SO SO SO SO BLOODY TRUE MARQ……DIPPERS HAVE GOT FLUKEY SCABBY DECISIONS THAT WON THEM MAJOR CUPS.
HANDBALLS….OFFSIDES….PHANTOM GOALS…DIVES..YOU BLOODY NAME IT
“You are Utd, you are well known for getting decisions when you need them.”
How about some examples. If you can’t provide any, over and above what other teams get, then we know the comment is as pathetic as a Spurs defence when 1 goal up.