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Welbeck And Cleverley Give Arsenal Youngster Plenty Of Stick

Henri Lansbury’s last game for Arsenal this season was the 8-2 defeat at Old Trafford. He’s been at Arsenal since he was 9-years-old but his worst ever day in football came at the hands of Manchester United earlier this season.

Two weeks after our demolition of Arsenal, Lansbury signed for West Ham on loan and was quick to grab their badge when he scored on his debut. He reckons he’s an Arsenal fan though and the stick our young lads gave him did nothing to improve his mood in Manchester that day.

“They didn’t give me any time to get over it, they got straight into me on the pitch as we were walking off,” said Lansbury. “Two of them, Jonesy and Smalling, came up to me and said, ‘Oh, you lot are good aren’t you?’ Then on the bus, Welbeck sent me a text. I can’t repeat it, but I didn’t reply. I just deleted the conversation. I went quiet for a couple of weeks. In fairness, I was at them the whole trip with the Under-21s, so I knew it was going to come back and bite me somewhere. But I obviously didn’t think like that. I had gone on with six minutes to go when we were 7-2 down. It was bizarre. Watching it from the bench, seeing the goals flying in, it was just, ‘This isn’t happening, this isn’t real’. When you’re 7-2 down you’ve just got to dig in and try to stop it getting even worse. I’ve been an Arsenal fan since I was young, so I would always help the club in any situation. And going on against United at Old Trafford has always been a dream, but it turned out to be my worst day in football. Afterwards, I think all the boys thought, ‘Did that really happen to us?’ Everyone was in shock and just wanted to get on the bus. On the way home we were in silence the whole way.”

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  1. smartalex says:

    I don’t feel sorry for them. Even if they are a team of emaciated teenagers and wandering misfits cobbled together by an eccentric aristocrat wannabe.

    Teach them another hard lesson United. Make their boys cry.

  2. Costas says:

    Lets hope he’ll get some more tomorrow.

  3. Dillan says:

    Lansbury and Tunnicliffe,same type players,both above average and not as amazing as some would have you believe.

  4. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    I miss arsenal being a great side, they are a very good team now but miss the Ruud v Campbell, Wright v schmeichal, Keano v Viera etc etc

    Late 90′s and early 2000′s my most enjoyable time in football. Arsenal and Liverpool have more credibility being a rival rather than just New money clubs.

  5. smartalex says:

    Dillan – do you have the ability and the knowledge to make that call?

  6. Dillan says:

    Yeah I’ve followed Tunni.Don’t see the hype.Just another workhorse,he’ll be a good squad player but I hope he proves me wrong and ups his game.Smartalex have you seen Tunni play?

  7. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:

    It’s also great to see the youngsters having the banter and having humility compared to cunts like john terry and Ashley cole

  8. Costas says:

    What does Tunni have to do with this article?

  9. jim says:

    King Eric has also followed Tunniclife’s progress and he reckons the lad has a bright future and he was spot on about cleverley so everyone here has reason to believe him rather than you.

  10. smartalex says:

    No Dillan, I live far away.

    Costas asked a good question; what does Tunni have to do with this article?

    It seems like you created a tenuous link to our young player in order to belittle him.

    What’s going on?

  11. Costas says:


    Exactly what it seems like.

  12. CedarsDevil says:

    Morning all

    Just popping in to wish TonyBee & Warwick a happy birthday…. Have a blast fellas.

    Be back in a bit

  13. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:


    I think that is a fair assessment but you only have to look at Clev. He and lansbury both went to Watford and were on even par on ability. Clev is turning into a right player, give tunni his time far too many fans write players off aka cleverly, wellbeck, Evans etc.

    I have watched tunni many a game and think he is a good 18 months off uniteds squad but I reckon he will progress as expected and become a 1st framer.

  14. Fibes says:

    Tunni – still some way to go for me. A proper hard nut and his passing/positioning is improving all the time but for me that sort of player needs to look imperious on the pitch, completely unbeatable – like Keano or Fletch in their pomp.

    If he doesn’t make it with us though, he’ll definitely be the mainstay of another Premier League side – for me even now he would walk it into the current Bolton/Blackburn/Wigan 11.

  15. Dillan says:

    No in no way do I want to belittle Tunnicliffe.The article made me realise who Tunni reminds me off and its Lansbury.KingEric probably sees what I don’t see,all I see is a workhorse and a average passer of the ball but if he proves me wrong I’ll gladly lift my hands up and admit I was wrong but for now my opinion of him doesn’t change.Youth prospects I have real high hopes for is Lingard,Larnel Cole,Daehli already excites me and Cofie.

  16. Fibes says:

    Dillan – There’s quite a few in the Academy exciting me. Jack Barmby doesn’t look far off a step up into the reserves for me, Joe Rothwell looks a danger whenever he gets the ball and Ben Pearson to me is like a raw version of a later-period Scholesy (minus ginger hair and the 60 yard pass on a sixpence).

    Lingard is definitely the suprise package though – there’s just something very assured about him, he could well come into the first team squad and ‘do a Fryers’, i.e look like he’s always been there.

  17. jim says:

    Fair enough mate in the end all we want is the best for United and Tunni.

  18. smartalex says:

    Thanks for clearing that up Dillan. Have you been following the youth closely for a while?
    I suppose there’s many disappointments, but at least a lot of our graduates ply their trade in Premiership

  19. Dillan says:

    I’ve always thought that Welbeck would make it and I’m not writing Tunni off.A player I had doubts about was Frazier Campbell and he proved me right but then again I also thought Possebon would be amazing for us and proved otherwise.I want what’s best for United and Tunni’s our player.I want him to do good.I’d be gutted if Morrison and Pogba left though.Their my favourite youth players and Morrison is amazingly talented.If he puts his head down,work hard.I do believe he could become a world player of the year contender.Yes I rate him that highly.

  20. smartalex says:

    I think that Sir Alex would like very much to give Paul Pogba 20 minutes against Arsenal.

    His French connections will be watching him compete against the French Quarter of London, and beating them at home. Some brief exposure to the glory and fame he might yearn for.

  21. Fibes says:

    Dillan – To be fair Possebon would have made it at United but for injury.

  22. smartalex says:

    “Black Cats boss O’Neill is hopeful it will not be too long before Fraizer Campbell is involved, after returning to full fitness following 18 months on the sidelines with knee ligament damage.”

    I sense a kiss-of-death prognosis should further analysis be done.
    Proceed with caution Dillan, there’s more to this meets the eye …
    … just kidding!

  23. smartalex says:

    “I missed a couple of games over the New Year period (Blackburn 2-3, Newcastle 0-3) but I felt good against Bolton. Hopefully I can play again at the weekend,” Evans told MUTV.

  24. kimblim says:

    Headline: “Welbeck And Cleverley Give Arsenal Youngster Plenty Of Stick”

    Mentions of Cleverley in the article: None.

    Suggestion for improved headline: “Welbeck and Smalling give Arsenal Youngster Plenty Of Stick”

  25. smartalex says:

    ex Express:

    If Lansbury helps West Ham get back into the Premier League it will be his third promotion in four seasons, having also been part of Scunthorpe’s climb out of League One and Norwich City’s rise to the top flight.

    “I don’t think many 21-year-olds have been promoted three times, so I would be chuffed with that,” said Lansbury. “But I want to make this one my last and stay in the Premier League.”

    - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - – - –
    He can’t be that bad a player. It seems like he has heart. Perhaps that ties in with Dillan’s:
    “The article made me realise who Tunni reminds me off and its Lansbury”

  26. Costas says:

    Speaking of our academy, I’ve recently heard some praise about a young Cypriot coming through the ranks:

    Hmm. I’d love to see him make the first team some day.

  27. Dillan says:

    Fibes do you think Frazier Campbell could still be a nightmare?Injury didn’t do Possedon any good,in fact it was his undoing but his fallen way off.His even playing in the second tier of brazillian football now.I do think Rossi was the one that got away.We missed out on a player in him.

  28. Ugandan Red says:

    JANUARY @ 9:45
    Giggs12Gerrard0 says:
    I miss arsenal being a great side, they are a very good team now but miss the Ruud v Campbell, Wright v schmeichal, Keano v Viera etc etc
    Couldn’t agree more, yesterday I was going through some of the old fights that we used to have. the best clip was the one of the 4 – 2 win over them. It was before the game in the tunnel when Keane infront of the ref told Viera, “I’ll see you out there”…I miss those days when when you knew that the ruckus was never far

  29. King Eric says:

    Ha. Morning lads. HAD to paste this about Danny. Just look at the venom aimed at Danny and United from the ABU’s and United fans because the story in the Mail MUST be true. You couldnt make it up. I urge you please to read the comments. Fucking idiotic cunts who believe everything they read in the papers:

  30. slim says:

    King Eric

    whats up big fella. i think you see why i was worried those weeks ago. The media are doing everything to paint this as some kind of big bust up. and all the readers lapping it up adding their own 2 pence bollocks to it. Fucking disgusting. I was so pissed of yesterday. The level of disrespect thrown our way in the media and that prick Adrian Durham on talksport is appalling

  31. Giggs12Gerrard0 says:


    Mate Andy Durham is the biggest cunt there is, save your time mate don’t listen to talkshite.

    King Eric

    Mate the mail is and has always been drivel, they take all their headlines from red issue normally.

    Comments on the story are as you say idiotic, Danny will sign long term he is proper united

  32. Costas says:

    “I don’t expect Fletcher to come back,” said Ferguson.

    “Darren will be out for the season.”

    Something tells me that Fletcher has a huge decision to make next summer. I hope he can still turn it around, but can’t say I am too optimistic.

  33. King Eric says:

    Dillan – Tunnicliffe is quality pal. A real little hard case, box to box, great tackler, GOOD passer of the ball, drives the team forward and can pop up with goals. Above all else the right mentality. He will make it at United IMO . I remember some on here saying Cleverley looked poor at Wigan and has no chance. They don’t all have to have creativity. I fucking hate that line. Did Keano and Ince have creativity? No not really. Cleverley and Tunnicliffe would dovetail perfectly. When Pogba got that ludicrous red card at Anfield in the quarters Tunni absolutely bossed the game. Ditto in the semi’s when twice he nearly put that fag McEacran who everyone raves about into the stands. He had him in his pocket.

  34. King Eric says:

    Dillan – Agree about Lingard and Cole. Two technically sound players. Daehli looks quality as does Barmby.

  35. King Eric says:

    Slim – Yeah good thanks mate. How are you? Oh dont get me started on Durham. Or worse still Gough who just the other day in a debate about having safe standing he was completely against it. He said ” I like to go and sit and watch the game, not stand up”. Stick to cricket then Darren or dancing on ice you fat cunt.

  36. zelh says:

    King Eric – Don’t forget Januzaj. Absolute class too. Imo with Daehli the most impressive players in the U18.

  37. WillieRedNut says:

    Sounds a posh cunt? Hope our lads are giving you more stick tomorrow fella….

    I’ve heard good reports about Jack Barmby? Anyways, I reserve judgment on the young bucks until I see them with the first team. You can look a world beater in the reserve games. Obertan was case in point. Looked like Ronaldo at that level. Couldn’t quite make the jump in standard to the first team. Seemed to run out of steam too. Stamina issues.

  38. King Eric says:

    zehl – Yes mate. He looks a player. He looks odd though if you know what I mean? Doesnt look like a footballer. Bit thin at present but bags of ability. Tell you who I don’t rate . That striker. Cannot remember his name. Blonde haired kid. ? The keeper is dodgy too. Oh forgot to mention Tyler Blackett. He looks a beast along with McCullough.

    Willie – Hello mate. Twitter? You disappoint me! I know what you mean , Obertan looked world class at reserve level . I was there for his first team debut and just knew it was a false dawn when on his first run he ran it right out of play!

  39. WillieRedNut says:

    King Eric – I sold my soul mate! Yeah, Obertan was a strange one. Remember the goal he scored in Europe. Henry like finish. In the end though, just wasn’t United standard. Newcastle fans have been giving him some grief. Hit and miss player for me.

  40. YorYor says:

    Obertan probably believed in his own hype and lost focus. It takes either exceptional talent, or top talent and exceptional hard work to impress SAF and get a career at United.

  41. denton davey says:

    Big day tomorrow. Huge swings possible. Fortunately, the power of the EPL is such that both matches will be televised in Mexico (where I am located until mid-March to escape TheGreatWhiteNorth) -and four were available simultaneously (!) this morning.

    Anyhow, back to the main point for UTD fans – I sure hope that SAF goes with an attacking formation/team that doesn’t include any of Park or Giggs or Scholes -rather, a MrJones/Michael Carrick midfield ahead of Rafael, Smalling, Rio, and CaptainEvra at the back; and Nani, TheWayneBoy, DannyTheLad, and Antonio Valencia up-front.

    TheArse are reeling so this is no time for “softly, softly”. Go for the jugular – attack, attack, attack.

    P.s. Typing on an iPad is a pain in the ass.

  42. denton davey says:

    Great day today

    LinerPoo in crisis -”King Kenny” accuses players of betraying club’s tradition

    RentBoyz screw up again – TheLadyBoy again fails in front of goal

    I just love it !

  43. Red love says:

    Since we are talking of United’s youth, I’d like to know what ever happened to Oliver norwood? The guy is an excellent passer, his long range passing especially stood out in a game that I saw…anyone has any idea how good/bad he is and what are his prospects?

  44. Dillan says:

    Obertan,Manucho and Tosic walk into a bar…Of the 3 I don’t think Tosic was given much of an oppportunity!Magnus Eikrem,now there was a boy who definitely should have been given a chance.I think we going to regret letting him go

  45. Singh7 says:

    I’ve been really impressed with the boy januzaj (hope I got his name right) he’s really skillful on the ball and definately Barmby Jr he’s a great finisher..

  46. smartalex says:

    Come on United!


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