Considering this country’s press are still talking about Wayne Rooney’s elbow on James McCarthy, we’re entitled to be surprised that so little has been made of Jamie Carragher’s assault on Nani yesterday.
It was reported in The Telegraph this week that Mark Clattenburg asked both Rooney and McCarthy what happened two weeks ago, with the Wigan player failing to mention that he had been elbowed by Rooney, instead saying that he was fine.
I’m sure when Nani was showing Phil Dowd the blood dripping down his leg and the gauged out hole made by Carragher’s boot, he wasn’t telling him that he was fine. Steven Gerrard was shouting at Nani to get up whilst Carragher continued to protest his innocence.
Just like the red card David Luiz should have been shown on Tuesday was largely ignored by the press, the lengthy ban Carragher should have received on top of a red card has had a sentence or two in today’s press.
Apart from in an article written by James Lawton for The Independent, It’s a scandal that Carragher will get away with his assault on Nani. This is by no means an arse kissing session, making United out to be perfect angels who were robbed on Sunday, rather an honest account of what happened, something pretty much every other journalist has failed to do today, with them far more concerned with Sir Alex Ferguson’s decision not to speak to them again.
Some of the best bits: At the end of a week of refereeing controversy it was that Jamie Carragher was merely given a yellow card for a tackle on Nani so sickening, so dangerous, that it rendered more farcical than ever the insistence of the football authorities that they cannot revisit extreme cases of negligence, irresponsibility or – let’s not fail to explore the full range of possibilities in this case – outright failure of nerve by a match official.
Phil Dowd was close at hand, was surrounded by protesting United players and Liverpool captain Steven Gerrard – who appeared to be suggesting that his team-mate was not guilty of one of the worst fouls to disfigure any ground in recent memory – and then administered two yellow cards, one to Carragher, still protesting his innocence, and the other to Edwin van der Sar, incredulous that a tackle of such crude violence could elicit such a mild punishment.
Sometimes you have to despair of the inability of football to police itself – and of those who watch it to separate their tribal instincts from the evidence of their own eyes.
We had another example of this after an incident that followed hard on the Carragher tackle when Rafael, United’s young Brazilian full-back, was yellow-carded for a tackle on Lucas, a moment after the latter’s team-mate Maxi Rodriguez had come at him thigh-level.
Rafael was inflamed, no doubt, and his tackle was reckless – but his feet were low, unlike Carragher’s, whose boot hit Nani’s standing leg shin-high – and Lucas was unscathed. However, this did not prevent Rafael being booed relentlessly through the rest of the match.
Some will say Nani’s notoriety in the play-acting department worked against his outrage and that of his team-mates – especially when he got to his feet to join in the protests before falling again – but you didn’t have to be a drama critic to detect authenticity in his tears and his shock or, as United’s most threatening player, his departure on a stretcher. Sometimes there really is a wolf in the grounds and yesterday his name was Carragher.
This may offend some Merseyside sensitivities – and we all know what a sterling professional Carragher has been down the years – but you had to be living on another planet not to be revolted by this piece of action. Nani wasn’t tackled – he was, in effect, assaulted – and we can re-run the film a thousands times without a softening of that verdict.
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Good to have someone seemingly neutral comment on it. But he’ll just be dubbed a United-lover. And neither is the media coverage (positive/negative) going to help. I just hope foe two things: (1) We get back on track after some dismal performances; and (2) Nani’s injury isn’t too bad.
Posted this article yesterday. Talksport were the same today. They barely mentioned It. If someone like Barton had of made this challenge, the media would’ve wanted him strung up. As it is, Liverpool are the media darlings, so It’ll be swept under the carpet. When Keane done Haaland, the media wanted him banned for 6 games. Carra is a good pro though, and Nani plays for United.
When a tree fall in a forest.
James Lawton’s lonely voice is heard, here, and there. It will only harden the multitudes, who blindly cling to a forlorn hope of United failing. The ABU know that once we have 19, we will dominate forevermore.
Maybe these journos take turns in wrting the truth.
brutally awful assault on an equally awful day… cant wait to hear whether the fella will be OK.
on another note, i am happy Carrick signed for a few more years, but on a day like Sun i dont know how he is playing in united. his defensive game was dismal…
Have chelski paid all the referees?
Saw this article this morning, an incredibly brave article. I’m sure that most people will just suggest that Lawton is showing his true colours as a Utd fan, but everything he said in that article rings true.
The only up sides are that Sir Alex will knock some collective heads together this week, we have players coming back to fitness, we’ve got thru this run of away games and are still top and Nani tweeted a couple of hours ago that the injury isn’t as bad as feared and he’d be back soon.
Sometimes there is a wolf in the grounds…..Yeah….and Nani should of been told the parable about the Boy who CRIED Wolf, when he was younger…..!!!! You Reap what you sow.
I also not very little has been in the press or otherwise about pug face Suarez pulling Rafaels hair. That type is the worst type get a a sly punch when no one is looking
i think there is some kind of anti manchester community inside fa
consecutively this is the second match for us where the judgments have been awful..
if nani is injured seriously we are fucked……
The best way to get at the press is to hit them in the pocket…….Now you can’t target them all….. however if you start a movement aimed specifically at one major national then they sit up and take notice….. The ABU press fuel the hatred and imbalance in how football is reported….
Colie will become ruder and ruder. He will try to upset you. He thinks of something upsetting to say and then he posts it.
This happens regularly with Colie.
Couldn’t have said it any better. As long as no referee gets punished, this is what’s going to happen.
Carragher has gotten away with this before. I don’t know what it is about Anfield, but you’ll find some of our players get bloodied (Rooney in 07, Neville in 02, Nani in 11) or taken away on a stretcher (Smith in 06).
Everyone should RT the article, get it noticed.
I see in ma crystal ball ;;; Ian holloway rant against the referee and a ban!
me go now sleep then work.
Repost from the earlier thread but this one is worth a read:
Here’s the best article I have come across about Ravel Morrison till date.Unravels everything about the lad,lifted my spirits and also has some very good bits of information on Pogba and Tunniclife:
http://www.stretford-end.com/blog/2011/02/ravel-morrison-profile/
How moronic must you be to gloat about a tackle like this?
Tell us Colie. Where you born like this or did your team’s (whatever that is) miserable existence make you end up like this.
I wonder in what newsnow page this article showed up in.
It was a messed up challenge no doubt about it. The disgusting part is the silence of the press, but I don’t buy the fact that the referee lost his cool. I believe that Nani has been faking shit for too long and it played against him. When he was rolling in pain and crying nobody believed him. Even I had my doubts and I am United supporter. It’s messed up that the cunt Garragher got away with that challenge, but him seeing red I don’t think would have changed anything in the game. The journos are cunts all of them. They will sell more paper when we are down or they are bashing us. They don’t really hate us, it’s just that our downfall is good for their business. Even the talk shows and such. The more negative they talk about us the better are the ratings. Check out any football website and you will see that articles about united are the most popular ones and the negative articles about United have the most comments. This is the price to pay for being the top dog on the block for so long. They sold a lot of paper showing how Rooney the cunt got away or United got a break, but who cares about Garragher or Liverpool.
lol….colie will become ruder and ruder, and try to upset you……grow a set smartalex, did you grow up in the same way as Nani, without any balls, and a hell of a lot of boo bloody hoo. Facts are yes Carragher should of been sent, but also the whole of the league is delighted that Nani, the diving little fagbag got his just deserts, and Carragher probably would of been sent if it was on someone like Giggs/Scholes/Carrick, who don’t spend there time trying to convince ref they’ve been fouled by someone breathing in their nearby vacinity. Also the fact that Lawton completely dismisses Rafaeels two footed lunge as being alright shows the level of bullcrap the article is dealing with. Fergie gave a full media blackout yesterday, well Mr Lawton is doing his absolute damdest to gain some brownie nosed points.
I wonder just why are the refrees made out to be houlier than thou sacred pieces of fuck?Punish them when they botlle.Simple as that.How can you bloody well expect RESPECT when the whole world can see how inept you are at your job.The FA ,FIFA ,all are ruled by clowns.
Costas – Well we’ll never know what happens to you if you won’t win fucking all in 6 years, 35 years or no premiere league title in 20 years.
From a neutral point of view, tt was a bad tackle certainly. note even Arseblogger think so as well. Worse than Rafael’s on Lucas…though that still doesn’t excuse Rafael – Rafael had two feet off the ground, and the slightest bit of bad luck and those are extremely dangerous. I read somewhere that Carragher went to the United dressing room to apologise to Nani in person….(probably on twitter).
Colie,what did you expect Rafael to do when that cunt Maxi planted a foot into his thigh?Its because of dickheads like you that this trash called newpapers get sold.Sod off to a dipper blog cunt.
Fagbag? Shit banter.
@Zelh
I’ve noticed something recently about a lot of these trolls. They never say what team they support. Are they ashamed? Or were they just taught to hate United? We have to be honest here. 20 years of dominance = an entire generation of ABU’s growing up with nothing to cheer about. That’s sad.
Liverpool fan here, just wanted to see what you thought about Ferg no speaking to the press?
Carra should have been sent off, no doubt about it, crude awful tackle. I dont think it would have changed the game hugely, but thats up for debate I guess.
I’ve been on alot of football sites, and they are all mentioning the tackle, its not like its been swept under the carpet.
The thing is, unlike Rooneys elbow, Dowd saw the incident and acted accordingly, you cant have refs “retroactively” suspending players for incidents that have been dealt with. He got it wrong, as he did with Maxi and rafael as well, he just had a bad day.
And anyone comparing Carras challenge to Keanes on Haaland is completely in the wrong. 2 completely different incidents. Do oyu think keane would have apologised after the incident? would have tried to do so in person? I doubt it.
I remember some a$$hole from Telegraph criticized about Nani crying after Carragher’s tackle. Bullshit. He should be on the receiving end of that tackle instead of just sitting in his fucking laptop writing about that.
Gerrars, Suarez, Torres, Drogba, Fabregas. Among the league’s many diving fagbags. Yet Nani is the only one with the reputation. I wonder why…
Costas – Imo it’s funny as hell. everybody hating us, cause they can’t win fuck all.
Orez.Absolutely spot on mate.Everything anti United attracts all sorts of dickheads.Shows how big and successful we are.Bring on the 19th and it will be so much fun to rub it all in their faces.
*Gerrard* Or *starfish*
Colie is not a United supporter. He only comes on here to be rude
“grow a set smartalex, did you grow up in the same way as Nani, without any balls, and a hell of a lot of boo bloody hoo”
Rude to me. Rude to Nani. Says things that only carry weight said face to face. He doesn’t get to talk like that in real life.
Allright guys, all things considered, yesterday’s loss wasn’t a complete surprise, to be honest. On the back of so many hard games coming and going in a very short period of time our players looked anything but fresh. The Kop was behind them, Dowd too, and to trump it all – look at our injury list compared to our rivals’ or any other team in the Prem for that matter:
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8214/injlist.png
Premiership Injury List
Source: PhysioRoom
“Gerrars, Suarez, Torres, Drogba, Fabregas. Among the league’s many diving fagbags. Yet Nani is the only one with the reputation. I wonder why…”
Do you honestly believe Nani is the only player with a reputation for diving?
He may be the only player on your team who has that rep, but many others do as well.
Nani and his girlfriend:
http://www.kickette.com/files/2010/08/naniandd-500×939.jpg
His balls are just fine. And I suspect that smartalex’s are too. I am afraid I can’t say the same for Colie.
So it’s a penalty per game for that fat fuck frank cocknose. Ah, well let’s all sing along:
WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY! WHAT A WASTE OF MONEY!
Colie’s balls haven’t dropped yet, he’s 10 years old.
Costas – You shouldn’t of posted that picture mate. Colie will strike one.
So no opinions on Fergusons silence? what do you make of that?
@willie
With what?
Lmao…..seems Nani’s missus/mister has bigger nuts than him…..!!!!
With the massive man hands of the yoke holding onto Nani.
(I just posted this on an earlier thread which I think is pretty dead now. And since RedBlood has seen fit to repost the link on this thread, I’m going to repost my response here too…)
RedBlood … interesting read about Morrison, thanks for that. As someone who is forced to follow United from a distance, I appreciate the insight. What it does is reinforce my belief that there are many reasons why SAF has shunned the transfer market, and has followed the path that he has. I have always said it isn’t only about money (either the lack of it, or the his objection in principle to paying over the odds for ordinary talent).
Those who promote the idea that we need a complete overhaul of the team are undoubtedly right, the question is: where will the new blood come from? To me, arguments that we need to go out and buy four, five or even six established players are silly for many, many reasons. And one that is often overlooked is that we have, in our ‘nursery’, some exciting prospects who very soon will have the opportunity to step up — and who will need to be given that opportunity. But what opportunity would exist if we were to restock the pantry with imported, established stars, each with 4-8 years of good playing time still left in them? Any investment in imported talent has to be viewed in that context: that it’s an investment that must be considered medium to long term. There is no point buying established players, at 20 million or more each, just to put experienced “bums on seats” for a year or two.
Personally, I can’t wait to see these youngsters come through. As the article says, we can expect to see more of them next year. And it won’t be before time — after all, Rooney was alive in the PL at 16 (I think?) and there are others, still teenagers, beginning to make thier mark for other clubs.
And, as I have noted previously, it will in the end be time that forces SAFs hand. That is the great juggling act that he, the master juggler, now faces — the easing out of one generation and the easing in of another; hoping that the old do not have to go before their time, while also hoping that they can last long enough, at least to provide guidance to the newcomers; at the same time, hoping that the new players will be ready when needed, but not ready too early so that they get restless.
All this will happen over the next 1 to 3 years, and it going to be the journey of a lifetime. A new team of United Babes to bedazzle and conquer. Wow!
And willie stop fantasising about 10 year olds not having dropped their balls. !!! You don’t want your computer being seized now do you, remember that shit has to stay inhouse….!!!
Got him waffling now.
Fuck the media. When has the media won nineteen league titles?
Worth bearing in mind as well guys, if we think we get it bad, think back to what the papers said about Hillsborough. Whether it’s positive or negative it’s never worth taking the word of the media too seriously.
Besides the media hates us, but they can’t help but talk about us. Fuck nobody even mentions Liverpool unless they are playing us. That’s our revenge, these guys hate United, but they have to write about us every single day, they have to talk about us every time we win. That’s got to hurt.
Colie remembers that the pedophilia talk has to remain in his house.
Look at the comments on that Lawton article. Jesus Christ on a fucking mountain bike. Apparently Carragher’s horror tackle is MAYBE a red but only if Nani is out for a longer period.
Oh Colie. Prime example of what happens when first cousins get married.
When Sir Alex goes visiting his peers at FA I hope the clubs lawyers have been instructed to attend,in fact I would like to think the board have already sent communication in advance that this will not be tolerated and if they find against him the club appeals and tells them they are going to law.As for Sky Sports possibly bringing a complaint regarding non interviews should they do so they should be told that when the T.V deal comes up for renewal to count them out as they are going to go for a stand alone T.V rights deal,may take a year or so but that will put their gas at a peep and then listen to the ABUS squeal when they end up with a Scottish league type payout if in fact Sky even want to entertain a deal after the prize that is United have flown the coop.United have all the heavy guns Use Them.
There have been too many parasites on the website recently. What kind of twisted character are you when you need to go on another teams blog and troll to get some enjoyment in life?
@passe … yeah, I put a few comebacks in there myself, but gave up. It’s fucking useless even talking back to those cunts.
Wait till someone takes Suarez out. Then, remember Carra’s assault on Nani.
Whilst I agree that carragher should have been sent off for this tackle, my decision was based on a tv replay and not on real time evidence which is the only time the ref gets. The sky commentators in real time didnt react initially but only following the slow mo reply. Therefore maybe we should have punishments extended to reviews post match and increase carragher yellow card to red. But if this happens then Rafael would be punished in retrospect. Not to mention Rooney the previous week. Why do we all focus on this tackle when united put on poor display. I’ve seen worse injuries this weekend on a rugby pitch. Iegal tackles and assaults but the players have left the pitch with dignity. Running over to the ref and collapsing in front of the ref and crying didn’t look good on Nani. I hope the lad isn’t badly injured but if he only has a gash and stitches then that won’t look good him. When Ramsey broke his leg he needed Entonox gas to leave the pitch. Think that is an injury you can call sickening.
ecoli is spawned by a backward arsewipe, as is colie.
I thought it was wrong for SAF to impose that blackout. It makes it look like he and the team were spitting their dummies out because they had been beat. Embarrassing to try and explain that to the likes of the Bitters who seem to be riding high lately (apart from the Toure affair that is). I agree that everyone wants Manu to fail , its the British way. But news blackouts certainly help to perpetuate the myth. Methinks SAF maybe needs to come down to earth, that ‘Sir’ in front of his name seems to have gone to his head. Why the fcuk doesnt he do something about Wazza, either fcuk the fat scouse prick off before his resale value goes to nowt, or play Hernandez from the off and use Wazza as a supersub or something. He is taking the piss not to mention the dosh.
StatesideAussie.This is exactly why I sincerely hope that these Pastore rumours are all bollocks.We don’t need someone from Argentina who plays for a year or two and then starts hankering for a move to the sunny climes of Spain.Exactly why Sir Alex is publicly urging the Ginger Ninja to sign on for another year.These lads coming through, if they make it,would spend their entire lives at the club and unlike the Pastores of this world will fight for the shirt with their hearts.As the more experienced posters have said time and again,thank god we are not running this club.The master will know when to blood them in just at the right time.We just need to have a little bit of patience to let him him build another dynasty that will go on for years even when he retires.Patience.Unfortunately losses to our bitter rivals over the course of the week gone by has stirred some emotions and calls for an overhaul are getting louder.Maybe we do need it.But I,for one would be willing to sacrifice a few points and swallowing some pride if we are to give these lads a chance to prove themselves. This is what this club is built on.We have legacies to live up to.The legacies of Sir Matt,The busby Babes,Class of 92..the list goes on my friend.Sir Alex knows what to do.
stevie me and carra will always be the losers that allowed United to knock liverpool off their perch. Gerrard is on the edge. Dress suarez as Nani, gag him and throw a comment as stevie me leaves the pub. Gerrrard will attack. When he realizes something is amiss, he will remove suarez’s gag, releasing those rabid jaws.
Hose down the parking lot, before you leave, thanks.
LOL smartalex
MIDDYRED can his embarrassment and fuck off until he learns some manners. CUNT!
What have I missed since I wasn’t first
Well said Bill, the first and only mature comment on the matter from a Utd fan so far. I will have a tenner that the worst Nani has it, will be a gashed leg and he will be up and playing again next week. No sign of Gotta hate tiny tears…..maybe he’s consoling the queen that is Nani.
Smartalex :- take Nani’s tiny cock out of your mouth, I can’t understand a word your saying.
Just a little piece I did on on our midfield and the players I think that could a do a job.
http://ryandunny.wordpress.com/2011/03/07/tired-old-engine-needs-some-fine-tuning/
Oh fuck off E-Colie, you scouse fucking son of a bitch cunt.
Baron – Fergie gave his media blackout, because no matter what he says the fucking bastard media will twist his words or would have attempted to gain a comment which has an element of controversy and will directly have an impact on what the FA do to him. Carraghers tackle on Nani was calculated and vile. But because it happened to a United player it is acceptable as far as the ABUs are concerned. There has been fuck all talk about his vile challenge but more exposure about Rooney’s incident. If Vidic played and made such a challenge on that thug Gerrard, then there will be a massive outcry within the media circles, calling him an animal and demanding that he faces a lengthy ban. The matter regarding Rooney is now closed as far as the FA are concerned, but the media still want to make a big deal out of it and that fucking cocksucker Jamie Redknapp still weighed in with his two penneths about it before our game with Chelsea.
I have said this many times and I will say it again, because we are close to our 19th title, the hatred and jealousy towards United is becoming more intense, because the fucking scouse loving media have always been in awe of your club and hate the thought of this eventuality.
Colie
You are what the enemy sent to give is a dressing down?
You don’t even want to go their son
Yes I am your father join me and maybe together we may rule the dark side
If not well I won’t ask you to cock this and cock that it appears you like telling others to cock and cock I wonder what the whole fucking fascination is with cock?
What, you have to come on here to do cock?
Now I know it’s way past your bed time but seriously your parents might be a little worried if they find you putting your trousers down to a fucking website which only has words going for it.
Shut the lights off on your way out – that a boy.
MIDDYRED
Manu?
Fuck off – I think I’ve missed out here
And then their is Bill
He now justifies that one injury can be more sickening than the other one
God help us
Just when you thought we got out they pull us back in
colie talks about pedophilia again.
Bill was watching rugby. He has no understanding of football. Bill is not a United supporter.
No I promise not to go ballistic
I promise
I promise
I promise
MG is Manchester United, heart and soul.
Colie is entranced by Nani’s member.
Lmao….King lay off the wacky backy will ya, the paranoia is definitely getting to you. !!!!
We don’t do Pedo’s here – wrong site
Well Smartalex..in fairness this is a manc site, I don’t want to seem like an outsider…..!!!! When in rome and all that.
What’s Nani’s member got to do with it?
I thought that’s supposed to be between Nani and Nani’s woman?
Times have changed
Still wrong website we do United
Kebabs women and films
Of course from time to time we can do Arts too
Obsession!
Manc site?
It seems the midichlorians are not so much in you Colie
Sorry to burst your bubble but Rome is in Italy by the way.
Poor Colie. Supporting a team 20 years without a league title and non existant testicles. God never gave him a chance. No wonder trolling around a Man United blog is the highlight of his day.
Read this!
I knew why Nani could stand up after the incident because I had a similar effect when I was involved in a car accident (I posted on the other thread). Long story short, my hand was gushed open, yes there was blood gushing out. In fact I can safely say what Nani experience was probably nothing. Yet, I DID NOT feel anything when it happened, it was after I helped my x girlfriend out of the car, I then realized I felt something not right, I saw the blood then I started to feel the pain.
The doctor told me there was a term for this reaction.. I forgot what it’s called. But yes it can happen.
Colie Muppet MIDDYRED
Are they one by any chance or separated at birth
Colie will never be welcome. He will never be one of us.
We like banter. Fans of other teams do visit and enjoy RoM.
Play nice, or people won’t like you. Sharp wit is enjoyed, but you can’t be a cunt to people we love and admire, and then joke and laugh with us. Be clever and funny. Don’t be a cunt.
No need for melancolie.
smartalex
A lot of us are Manchester United heart and soul
We lost a game we’re still Manchester United heart and soul
The Force is strong within us red midichlorians and all lol
You mean don’t be a cock in reference to Colies cock conundrum
Cunt is a whole new ball game smartalex
Listen I think Nani is a great talent, as Ronaldo was before him, but I certainly wouldn’t be admiring him if he was in my team. If as a player you act like a cunt, that’s how you’re going to be treated…..respect breathes respect, there are several players like this is most teams, I loathe them all, don’t think it’s any different for them, but fact remains, Nani completely reaped what he sowed. Ps…it will still only be a gash on the leg and he’ll be running aroud next week, moonwalking his way through the 18 yard box.
Where’s RedScot when you need him?
He’d be up for it especially with all that Scottish blood
Colie
Is the new member at the Manchester United Physio department Carrington
Thank fuck at last
Cunt
Obsessed
Loser
Idiot
Endlessly
hey colie few years ago wasn’t there a scandal about 3 or 4 liverpool players being gay
http://minidodo.blogspot.com/2010/01/liverpool-is-gayblogging-day-582.html
Well done Costas you can spell and make words with letters…..lmao….don’t forget your lunchbox in the morning, the teachers won’t be happy if you forget it again. !!!!!
If Nani is a cunt
Then Carragher is worse?
No probably not – he’s a ballet dancer they don’t do nothing bad do they?
And ~Stevie me is a saint – and angel probably sent from God
Maxi is a Princess
JT is God
Drogba is a Mohammed
Dowd is a King
Atkinson is Jesus
You get the drift
But Nani is a cunt
United are the scum of the earth
and SAF is a bacon face Taggart red nosed bastard
Something like that anyway
But Luiz is fucking side show Bob Passe TM
Nani is flamboyant. Vidic is a dreadnought.
Costas
Congratulations – I hope you are taking kebabs in that lunchbox my friend
smartalex
No mate you have to go with the flow
Nani is a cunt –
Vidic is a Nazi
We are evil don’t you know
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8366817/Liverpool-defender-Jamie-Carragher-barred-from-Manchester-United-dressing-room-following-Nani-tackle.html
No way in for Carragher.
colie is now being rude to Costas. He spends enough time on here to know that Costas is a great contributor, who has time for everyone and a kind word for anyone. What is the point of logging in to ruin a place you clearly enjoy?
At least my teachers taught me not to wish harm on anyone, lol. And especially not gloat about it. And I am afraid my dear troll, that that’s where you made an ass out of yourself. Still haven’t told us which team you support (if you support one othe than hate United), but I am pretty sure you will find a diving fagbag in there. When someone injures him, have a laugh about it.
MG, you can relax your cacks there sunshine….Drogba was as much a cunt as Nani was, but has for some reason now all of a sudden decided to stay on his feet a lot more now…..JT was and always has been a cunt. Fact. When Mascherano was at Liverpool, he was also a diving little cunt, a lot to be said about the spanish/portugese based upbringing…eh….!!!! There are lots of cunts in the league, but I don’t doubt there aren’t any playing for my team, I would be glad to admit it, and rid them of there horrible traits….how else does a team progress…..do we just say….ah sure leave him…that’s just the way he is. Even Klinsmann when he came over here, had a huge reputation as a diver….he even went as far as taking the piss out of himself, with his goal celebrations, but he at least changed his ways, it can be done…..
smartalex
If I was Magnum PI
Id be telling you that Colie MIDDYRED Muppet are all related
It’s a family thing
A dangerous/poor tackle is dangerous/poor regardless of the player or team. It’s the same for diving, play-acting or for any other form of cheating. They all reduce the quality of the football being played and can impact on results.
The problem as I see it is is the fans. We laugh and jeer when a decision goes for us, then cry and moan when it goes against us. Also as a Liverpool fan I think that the media has a United bias while my mate a ManU season ticket holder thinks they have an LFC bias (yes we are good mates).
I do think that Carra was lucky to stay on the pitch but then again so was Rooney for the elbow. So is it time for the the FA to introduce some sort of retrospective review of controversial incidents (regardless of whether the ref has dealt with it) with the power impose bans and fines.
@MG
Always mate.
@smartalex
It’s ok. I was rude to him first and he deserved it. Why he is here in the first place? Don’t know. Never been a troll with no life.
MG
We are the Redd.evils!
hey colie this makes interesting reading,supposedly none of the players involved are gay what do you think about players having their dicks sucked by a guy colie seems gay to me.
http://www.soccer24-7.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103022
Today’s Arseblog actually stands up for you guys over what happened yesterday.
Colie
I’m not your sunshine son
Privileged to be a part of many other’s lives certainly wouldn’t want to be a part of yours
You disrespect my family I owe you no fucking respect whatsoever
And you can print it and cock it wherever you want to
RedNProud makes his points as a Liverpool fan without stomping on people and their values. Thanks for that!
The problem with retrospective review is that will give the ABU more power, not less.
(RedNProud, your ABL, if it really exists, will be further empowered.)
…..and they are STILL talking about the Rooney elbow……LOL!
- What about Gerrard on Welbeck?
CUNTS!
and they say Rafael should also had been red carded
- What about Maxi Rodriguez tackle a second before?
CUNTS x2!
RedNProud thinks there is an ABL! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha ! Deluded!
@RedBlood … that’s exactly my thoughts — and I haven’t even been fortunate enough to see some of these guys who have yet to appear in the first team lol. As we know, Scholes is undecided about signing a contract extension, but I think SAF may use this as an argument with him, to stay on and help guide the youngsters. Not sure it will work, I think Scholes is too proud to stand the thought of being a passenger.
I wouldn’t mind if SAF brought in maybe one established midfielder, though I have a policy against throwing names around. But I could see the sense in that, especially if it was someone of genuine quality who would be around for a few years and able to play the role of elder mentor once Scholes and Giggs hang up their boots. But a wholesale clean-out? Never.
So much depends on the timing, doesn’t it? And a lot of that is out of anyone’s hands. There’s no way to know when someone will be perfectly ready, it’s always going to be too early or a little too late. My own feeling is that SAF’s hand may be forced, and some of these guys will find themselves being thrown in the deep end a bit. I hate to think what some people on here will say if that happens, because they are bound to struggle a bit. Let’s hope we have a good run in the Carling Cup next year to give these guys a proper introduction. People deride the Carling Cup, but when you’re bringing youngsters through, it’s extremely valuable. We’ve seen that this year a bit, because, due to our early exit, some of the guys either haven’t had the opportunity at all or have been thrown into the PL where they are maybe a little out of their depth.
Exciting times ahead!
Costas, when someone spits at your player, swearing at him is not rude. You weren’t rude, colie was rude.
Ecoli is a filthy disease and must be sanitized.
Colie
Those that defend the United shirt are not just bound to the management the team and the staff.
Everyone that wears outside OT it wears it because it’s sacred – it means something
Those that wear the shirt are then bound by a greater sense of pride and respect which they must uphold under any circumstances.
Every United supporter or fan has a right to say what he or she wants
But if you wear that shirt and you bring it into disrepute then you are not part of the family
If you believe you are you are sadly mistaken
Their are many like you – you have no fucking idea what it means to be Manchester United
And neither do those that speak ill of the club
To MIDDYRED
You call United ManU – you bring shame to the club by not having the balls to call United by its name.
You are a fan yet you are persuaded by non reds that it is a disgrace what SAF is doing – and you therefore lay into him
You have no fucking clue what the man is doing – and I and those reds that know stand by our manager
Enough is enough we will not be fucking disrespected by fucking no one
This is Manchester United – here ends the lesson
Now don’t be a coward Colie, tell us what arsehole of a team you support. Or are you so ashamed of them you don’t mention their name?
Ecoli lives where the sun don’t shine!
Devil310….what about Gerrards on Wellbeck….lmao…he was going up for a header…..not running past him with his elbow 6ft up in the air….!!! And both Maxi and Rafael were going for the ball, Rafael getting there a millisecond ahead of Maxi….no intent from either player to do any harm….until Rafael left the ground with both feet flying through the air….for the second time in as many matches against Liverpool, and yet the first time he got booked…..I was sure refs were under orders that once a player left the ground with BOTH feet it was to be a straight red, funny how rafael has avoided two red cards for that exact tackle twice against Liverpool….seems like double and standards.
Double and standards applies to cocks who hate our players, and then want to chat.
MG ….fans are bound by the respect of the game first, because if you don’t respect the game then it just decends into pure chaos. Fact. Shirt or no shirt, Nani is girlie toss piece and if Fergie had nipped his acting in the bud he wouldn’t get half the sh1t he does, just like he could of with Ronaldo also, but refused to….the same with Rooney…..and then the same with Rafael, you would think after what happened at Spurs Rafael would of learnt his lesson to keep himself calm on the pitch…..first sign of things heaing up…what does he do…..two feet off the ground.
MG strikes at midnight!
Sorry smartalex I have already pointed out Nani’s great abilities and taking my hat off to him….but don’t think there isn’t a flip side to that coin, and something you just can’t admit too yourself…..!!! And therein lies the problem……It seems its more a case of….it’s on our terms or not at all…and your terms are….no criticising whatsoever and we will then agree to not criticise…..tell you what…how about I put on a Utd jersey while I am at it….lol….!!!!
colie said that Nani deserves his injury.
There is no way back from that, colie.
We see you flapping in the shallows, colie, but you need to man up.
@Colie…Seriously mate? “he was going up for a header…..”??? That’s like saying McCarthy got the way of Rooney’s running path, and he was just trying to shrug him out of his way.
Bad intentions are easy to spot. All you need is some common sense.
Abysmal Actions At Anfield Detract Dour Display
http://www.theunitedreligion.com/2011/03/abismal-actions-at-anfield-detract-dour.html
colie how the fuck can you talk about respect of the game after gifting chelsea last year that prevented utd from winning the title.forgive me if i’m wrong didn’t you losers cheer,so fuck you and how the fuck have you the nerve to talk about nani,when trannie boy was idolised at dipperville.
Thanks smartalex.
Although I support Liverpool, I love good football regardless of the team, I admire hard working, gifted and creative players. Flowing football played by teams at the highest level is always a joy to watch. ManU at their best fall into this category and one of my favourite players is Ryan Giggs.
The reason a suggested the need for some sort of retrospective punishment is that ref’s aren’t consistent and as has been mentioned above they only have a split second to make a decision. We do need some sort of system by which cheats and dangerous/poor tackles receive the appropriate punishment.
…and I may add, Colie. Steve G does not limit himself to the air. He also loves the whole “running elbow” attack….
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zb6TQtqdb2o/S59lwPTNztI/AAAAAAAABXc/eoXn-plmmgQ/gerrard-assault.gif
Hey wayne, I saw that you had apologised for reacting to a poster that seemed to attack you out of nowhere. Firstly, you were attacked for rightly complaining about a comment that I was also angered by. Secondly, the idiot that attacked was looking for trouble. What’s right is right, and you were right. Just saying…
…moving on.
A common complaint from posters is that they can’t say anything negative.
Correct. We see the positive and the negative as one, United. Don’t be positive or negative, be truthful. To turn against Sir Alex or any part of United is to be against United. Say what needs to be said. Clearly and accurately. Beating around the bush is seen as disingenuous. Veiled comments about lies, madness, stupidity or any other nastiness show the poster to be underhanded, backstabbing and despicable.
Actually, many posters are able to strongly criticize and complain, without being against United.
RedNProud
Football clubs, United and Liverpool both.
“We do need some sort of system by which cheats and dangerous/poor tackles receive the appropriate punishment.” you say, and I agree. We wonder if there is a system that can be found, especially by myopic Fifa.
I’ll make a suggestion: players who feel aggrieved (not clubs) may approach a player jury to adjudicate an on-field incident. Penalties or awards would not impact the premiership, but players could chose to retroactively ban a vicious thug or serial maimer.
Colie
You are a deluded fuck
Fans are bound to their teams which creates respect for the game
How you think that one can side with the people like Blatter and co is fucking stupidity at it’s creative worst.
I don’t follow football because of football’s sake – I’m bound to my team which makes me who I am
Your attack on Nani is ridiculous – Nani might have his failings but is nothing worse than the next guy – it’s amazing how you then loop Ronaldo Rooney and Rafael
Therefore Zidane belongs in their – so does Keane – so does Maradona – to name but a few – these players were supremely gifted but had an edge that may have bought out a ruthless side but no matter – they were winners and that’s the whole point of football
But you are a thick shit who doesn’t get that – every player has an achilles heal but you can’t see that – you are blinded by your stupid fucking rage and it’s good it’s coming out because your arguments hold no water.
You talk of Rafael – let’s follow him on for a bit
Hounded by Van Bommel a far experienced player – the referee let’s Van Bommel go but chooses to punish a young player coming up in the game
At Apurs his second card was never a card but the referee had other idea
At Liverpool Maxis tackle was red – but Dowd doesn’t give a shit and then even then Raf goes in and gets the ball – fair enough that could have been red but after? His hair is pulled by Suarez after being pushed around – fucking ridiculous.
I get your hatred it means nothing to me – you bark and well I’ve said what I want to say – but really that’s it or else really I can’t fucking go around in circles because unfortunately your levels of intelligence revolve arounds cocks and lunch boxes
Go figure.
I think with all due respect we should stop moaning about referees.
Consider this:
Neville should have been sent off against stoke and brom. I reckon that would have been 5 points lost,
Instead we gained 6 points.
Rafael should have been penalised against blackpool with the tangerines denied a strong penalty call.
From 3-0 down we would have been dead. So we should have lost 3 points in that game.
Wigan we should have been down to ten men and possibly gained only one point.
SO IN ALL THESE GAMES WE COULD HAVE LOST AT LEAST 9 POINTS INSTEAD WE WON 12.
I know against birmingham zigic handballed but still…….
Hence we should not complain too much about refs.
@smartalex
The other sad part in this, is that no one has acknowledged that Nani has actually cut back on the theatrics this season. I can’t remember a game in the last 3-4 months where he dived or made the most out of something. It’s obvious Ferguson had a word with him about it and he got his act together. I was glad to see that.
@Costas
That has stood out time and again with Nani this season. I even feel it has paid dividends with refs already. On the odd occasion where he has even slightly expressed, the commentators presume it still happens frequently. The crap that gets spouted by pundits is unbelievable. A player can have been out for half the season, and you’ll hear about last year’s exploits like they are current. I don’t mind that they don’t know, I mind that they lie, thinking they know.
Classic MG.
How you think that one can side with the people like Blatter and co is fucking stupidity at it’s creative worst.
What a load of bollocks. Carragher should have seen red for the consequence. Rafael, maybe not, although the tackle was more two footed, he didn’t cause the same harm, and like it or not that counts. But let’s be honest United fans. First, Carragher’s challenge at least had something to do with the game – the ball was in play and through a rush of blood to the head, or his general lack of timing/precision of tackling, he missed it. Rooney’s elbow, which the article and fans seem to want to brush over, had nothing to do with the game and was pre-meditated assault. In terms of the integrity of the game, there is no comparison. It was a disgrace.
Also, to be frank, three more points. First, the game was one in which Liverpool, for all their recent problems, showed they are likely on the rise – and United is rotting as a team, especially in midfield.
Second, Lawton, and his flowery rhetoric, have always been crap at real analysis, and he has always been one to favour United – even going back to before and when he was writing in North America (yes, he was). Finally, Fergie and his media antics, and the notion that United is generally hard done by by officials, is petulant and nonsense. It is designed to cover up the fact that the team is becoming shallow, and without new investment and new direction (as is being seen in Liverpool), we are a spent force. If United doesn’t face reality, it can’t fix it.
You dont have to be from another planet, you just have to be a jealous cunt who hates United. Unfortunately, there are a lot of them.
Sure, the best way to approach dangerous tackles is to empower a panel review any tackle that results in actual injury. Dangerous tackles that do not cause injury, would not be reviewed. They would continue to be punished (or not) on the field of play. Nor would blatant cheating be reviewed. The reason I exclude those things is that to an extent, FIFA does have a point: we can’t allow this to become a wholesale review of every decision. No matter how much it pisses us fans off, if every decision was open to review, it wouldn’t be long before people were calling for matches to be replayed.
Actual injury, though, is a different matter. I still think it needs some care: football is a contact sport, and it is perfectly possible to injury someone, even badly, without ever intending to do so, and without breaking the rules. In particular, there needs to be care when studying slo-mo replays, because as I have posted previously, slow motion can grossly distort the timing of events. But so long as there are guidelines, I think play that causes actual injury (sufficient to render the player incapable of continuing) could and should be reviewed.
POBORSKY,
You can’t lose points only gain them. You are wrong anyway as you assume we would have dropped points if we had a player sent off which isn’t the case all the time. One of the matches involving Neville he shouldn’t have got the first yellow so saying he was lucky to avoid a red is a bit unfair. Also there have probably been more decisions given against us that are forgotten because we win anyway and the press don’t go on about them.
… hmmm … now according to the Guardian, “sources close to Nani” say he “feels let down” by SAF’s blanket ban on the media because he feels the club should have made a song and dance over the incident … just can’t help themselves, can they, got to stir up the shit…
The Players player of the year is voted by each divisions registered players.
They could also review selected challenges monthly, and vote.
The Guardian telling people what they want them to hear. Pathetic.
Sir Alex has instantly the support of those that matter. Unconditional support.
StatesideAussie, I presumed that you were schooled in Oz, on the STATS thread.
i see some people calling it wrong for SAF to impose a media blackout. why and how is it wrong? if Fergie talks, everybody complains. then he decides not to talk and everybody still complains. what the fuck do you want from him. to cut off his fingers and give it to you as a token of his appreciation for you? HELL NO!!! i am fully behind fergie with this one. he can talk to whoever the fuck he wants to talk to. you don’t like it then boo hoo.
i don’t give a fuck whether nani has been diving right from the womb the point is he was taken out by a horrendous tackle and yet that scouse bastard gets away with it. Wayne rooney gives an inadvertent elbow and the whole world reacts. Even that corrupt fat fuck Sepp blatter and jobless , unemployed ,poor, fat, spanish ,twat benitez also replies but when a United player almost has his leg handed to him it is perfectly ok and we can all just act like nothing ever happened. bullshit. i now see why Fergie imposed the media blackout. when you refuse to respect a knight then he sticks the middle finger up to you until you dumb , flimsy , lame , low lifes who call themselves journalists wake the fuck up and know who you are talking to. i recommend two more weeks of media blackout. do your worst we ain’t afraid of you fuckers. i’ve put up with goats in the british press for far too long. this is the absolute end for me. and you claim to champion democracy and fairness. SHUT YER BLOODY MOUTHS UP AND GET A FUCKING GRIP!!!
end of rant.
At first, I too, thought that the trickle of blood on Nani’s leg might have been from Carragher’s tackle. However, upon further review, the actual cause became apparent. After I noticed the string hanging out from the bottom of Nani’s shorts, it became obvious that the other end of it was attached to a tampon, and that it was simply a matter of it being Nani’s “time of the month”.
As for “Sir Drinksalot”, that arrogant prick simply thinks that he is bigger than the game of football, and he’s not.
Likes to dress in women’s clothing and hang around in barz. Lumbar need puncturing, jack?
Very original barz.
You should become a writer with such wit. I can detect some oscar wilde in your comments.
With all that talent you really should leave this website immediately and start your writing career…..the world is waiting!
smartalex, yeah mate, saw your post on the other forum, and yeah, I was schooled in oz. If you can call that “schooling” lol. Been a while since i saw an emu, though. But guess what, that was here not there. Sleepy little backstreet near here … just driving along one day, turned my head and there was a fucking emu staring at me from someone’s yard. Must have been someone who fell for that marketing con a while back, “Emu farming is the next big thing” (right after arse fell out of alpaca farming, if i remember correctly).
if only rooney were in nanis shoes at the time.
cant WAIT for saturday to get this awful week out of our system. the gooners are in for a fucking rollocking.
UNITED
That’s insane StatesideAussie! I bet you crashed into the guy in front of you!
So, g’day is actually short for Thanks Giving day, mate. Or is that t’day?
I think I’m contriving myself to sleep.
I think we are gonna see the dirty side of the toast of Liverpool – Luiz Suarez. The way he tugged on Rafael’s head – he’s a cunning prick with a mean streak which he was infamous for at Ajax. He’s wonderful to watch and had a great game sure! But some defenders will get the better of him soon!
Carragher was lucky to be on the pitch. And we didn’t do so badly – two goal line clearances and one hit the post – I think Berbatov did more than enough to score except score. Again I will point fingers at Carrick, Nani, Giggs, Rooney. Scholes looked tired in the second half any way.
Keano86. Rooney was a prick to do what he did but absolutely no need for that pal. Every post you make you spout vitriol to him. Yes he acted a cunt but ya don’t wish injury on anyone who wears our shirt. What if he gets the winner sat or against marseille? Say what you like but rooney could still have a big say in number nineteen.
alan Brazil yest morning saying ‘the tackle wasn’t harmful… blood used to get drawn all the time..’
made me sick! ipod on, fuck ABUs!!
The same guys at work that went ON and ON about rooneys elbow can’t even bring themselves to talk about details now… BUNCH OF SPINELESS HATER ENVIOUS PRICKS who deep down inside wish they were as successful as us but loathe the fact they never will be!! MUFC till I die
come back soon Nani, n fuck SAF hating media!! I mean, who fucking cares about a post-match interview?? such a fucking non-story! just putting heat on his trail for criticizing the usual TITLE DECIDING shit refereeing!! n fuck off to it evening out over the course of a season bullshit!!! he’s denying them the drama and it is clear to see that THEY are the ones throwing their toys out now. If there’s talk of SAF tomorrow I may take a shit-in-a-bag and throw it at talkspit fucking tower, and/or every pool fan that tries to carry on ‘living the dream’ after such a total joke of a game! I took the stick silently yesterday, but now they can ALL eat dick by choice!!!
rant over
I feel better
goodnight all
smartalex
Football clubs, United and Liverpool both.
“We wonder if there is a system that can be found, especially by myopic Fifa.
I’ll make a suggestion: players who feel aggrieved (not clubs) may approach a player jury to adjudicate an on-field incident. Penalties or awards would not impact the premiership, but players could chose to retroactively ban a vicious thug or serial maimer.”
It’s a good starting point and the panel could be drawn from ex-players.
On the SAF media ban, I think that all managers and clubs should have the right to refuse to attend interviews and press conferences. Lets face it, regardless of the club or player, they will twist the facts, mis-qoute and lie to come up with a story that they think will sell the most issues.
Great work, MG!
‘Respect breathes respect’ — best line from Colie.
LU.
Ecolie – Go fuck your mum you fucking cunt.
The good are always in the minority.
Same goes for the truth.
ESPN is reporting Nani’s out for “up to a month”…
Fuck me, I hope this is balls ’cause that long of absence might take a big toll on our season. Here’s the article.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/891000/angry-nani-out-for-up-to-a-month—report?cc=5901
I think willierednut posted this yesterday, good to see a truthful account of the game by a journo…
I am waiting with anticipation for one club, maybe a couple going together and taking the FA to court. Trust me it will happen, sooner rather than later.
The biggest problem today is the FA’s inability to aknowledge the fact that football is a profession and a job, just like any other job. The biggest clubs today report huge/massive turnovers and correct/fair results have a direct impact on turnover. The same can be said about players – wrongfully treated players directly impact a clubs turnover.
I can’t see club owners and officials putting up with the FA, UEFA and referees for much longer. Since this is a United site I will use Arsenal as an example. The fact that the referee and thereby the FA wrongfully stole Arsenals goal last week, can eventually result in Arsenal losing a lot of money and of course throphies. This can be said about 5-7 games every week.
It should be in the FA’s interest to have a product that is fair and that games are decided by the best team and not by bogus refereeing. Now it might be in the FA’s and UEFA’s interest to keep it this way, so they can continue to stay corrupt?
If one looks to American sports, something a lot of members on this board don’t like to do, one will soon see the following.
1) Owners and GM’s meet after every season with the League and go over rules and games – and change rules so the game becomes as fair as possible
2) Everyone is concerned with keeping the stars healthy, because stars sell the sport.
3) Players are always fined and/or suspended for dangerous plays – always, and video is used.
4) If the referee makes a bad call in a game and it has happened, the League always publicly apologises.
So back to my main statement, I can’t wait for the first court battle. I would just love to se Wenger and SAF take the FA to court and kill them off along with all the inept referees that think they are gods.
It happened with players, injuries and national teams – it will happen in league play, there is just to much money at stake, too many jobs at stake and in fairness, the players deserve better.
Collie you hypocritical plastic scouse prick,gerrard is the biggest diving,cheating twat in the league,do you condemn him?
What are the chances of these referee’s having bank accounts in Russia? Very high me thinks. Wierd how all these decsions against United and Arsenal alike are turning out very nicely for Chelski.
If Nani is out for a season, in terms of the league, it’s the best month to be out of. Only one game at home to Bolton. The question, is if we can beat Arsenal and Marseille without him.
*out for a month*
Collie, every inch the one eyed fan he accuses some on here of, why waste your breath.
Gorse Hill Red – It’s amazing how a cheating ref can galvanise a team.
just wanted to share what a club like Manchester United can be for a fan,
Over the years we have seen so much success that losing in two consecutive games has been a rarity and if you think about the teams we lost to and the manner in which we lost it has been the worst week since a long time and add to that my own personal life has taken such a hit in the very same way, ManUtd is family to me, the best thing to happen in my life, there is one person for whom I felt the same way and she left me which turned this week to be the worst of my life
yet, my eyes will lit up when I see the red shirts emerging out of that tunnel to enter “the theatre of dreams” and makes me sit up and watch in awe, that can make me forget any kind of tragedy going around me, that’s what Manchester United can do to me and that’s why it will and always remain a special unique entity
and thanks to all the ROM’ers for all the discussions,debates and fun, you people have been of great support and keep it up
finally one last sentence about ROM
“If ManUtd is god to you, then ROM is the church/mosque/temple that you go to worship”
One season, Gerrard lays a goal on a plate for Drogba. The next, Carragher wipes out our best player for a month.
Are there no depths these vile cunts won’t sink to stop us overtaking their league titles?
They’re desperate.
There were about 12 referee cock-ups in this week: Chelsea vs. Manchester United, Fulham vs. Blackburn, Arsenal vs. Sunderland, Wolves vs. Spurs, Liverpool vs. Manchester united and Blackpool vs. Chelsea.
What will happen if the top flight clubs create a formation that can review the referees and can take the suspected official to court? I know that the FA would charge Sir Alex if he chose to spoke to the media on Sunday, Wenger could say nothing, Ian Holloway will be charged today and thugs like Carra and Martin Atkinson are feeling OK on their comfort zones.
@ancha
Don’t worry, there’s always Hayley and Stacey and Torrie waiting for you. In Google Images that is.
Jokes aside, take it easy yeah. 2 months will heal you. Cause the 19th can heal everything.
People who chose names that indicate love for United, but actually support Liverpool, are the lowest of the trolls.
‘Giggs the Great’ is a liverpool supporter.
This user changed his name last night, as his previous monikor wore out.
He is a wum, and he hates United.
yoryor
lol, I’m definitely attracted towards hayley, don’t know how Costas would react to that, he used to have a shot whenever that name pops up
even if we don’t win 19, watching united is itself a healing and some part of that is down to you guys here because without reading your thoughts and sharing mine it usually picks me up
@kanchelskis
that’s exactly what is going through my mind after that tackle classless thugs
smartalex
they aren’t worth posting about mate, feel pity that they are in so desperate need of recognition
We are big and only our bigness brings all these hate. SAF all the way. I cant wait for a ref to SAF says, ‘He tried to win them the match but we won it. You can print that’
Glory Glory Man United and the reds go marching on!
When do the results of the FA hearing come out? any idea?
@smartalex just read Giggs the Great comments, surprised he did not end it with YNWA, fucking scouse prick.
Heard from the MEN that Nani is out for three games. Let’s hope Tony V can get back soon. Keep the faith lads, 19 will be ours come May.
MARCH 8, 2011 AT 9:31
kanchelskis says:
“One season, Gerrard lays a goal on a plate for Drogba. The next, Carragher wipes out our best player for a month.
Are there no depths these vile cunts won’t sink to stop us overtaking their league titles?
They’re desperate.”
This. It’s the plight of Liverpool FC. Managed by a fossil who hasn’t been in management in years, captained by a thug who’s claims to fame are wanting to join Chelsea to win titles and beating up a DJ and led from the back by a retarded slimeball who’s so jealous of Man United he takes out our players.
I like carragher because he often speak of his likeness for our manager. But i have to say his is not a tackle. Its a killer. His leg was so high that he has no way to get the ball. He is aiming at the leg! Sometimes i feel that Nani is lucky. He always manage to escape harsh tackle from opponent.
I pray for him and hope he is alright. 2-3 weeks might be fine for him, If it was longer, i would be devastated!
@kel
Come to think of it, it’s amazing something like this never happened to Cristiano. At times, his trickery got him out of trouble, like the time Palacios did a Carragher. Nani wasn’t so lucky.
Gorse Hill Red and ancha, even when ‘pool win their cup final, there’s no place like RoM for the scousers, so they chose to be hated, in order to exist.
Costas
Thing is, Cristiano, for all his mincing, is made of brutally strong stuff. He’s only in the last couple of weeks picked up his first slight injury of the season – his body takes knocks remarkably well and he stays in the game for long, long periods. Were this not the case, I’m sure he would have been kicked out of a lot of games.
@kanchelskis
Oh yeah, he was very fit. But there’s not a lot you can do to protect yourself when someone goes studs first on your shin. He was just lucky to escape tackles like that.
Costas
You’re right – he did escape the real x-rated challenges.
I don’t think anybody would have stayed on the pitch after Carrager’s assault on Sunday. Despite what a load of WUMs on BBC Blogs thought, coming out with a load of shit about how he was being a pussy / was looking for an excuse to leave the game cos he was playing rubbish. One guy even claiming he’d played on in a Sunday League match with a similar injury. Pathetic clowns.
Good read Scott the Red. Spot on.
No surprises the media suddenly changed its mind on red card offences once the victim was a Manchester United player. But a couple days later what makes me laugh now is the criticism of Nani’s reaction. Half these Cunts would react the same way if they stubbed a toe at home in the dark. Don’t you love how everybody suddenly become Vinnie Jones when these thing happen? Nani’s shin bone was visible on the pitch ffs. He had a right to “react” any fucking way he felt fit, and any player able to shrug a gapping wound off without grimacing in pain should be tested for drugs.
So im 100% behind the media blackout. I think Alex did that to prevent incriminating himself, because its enough to make your blood boil. Who the fuck do these Cunts think they are and since when did the Media matter? You’d think Global Powerhouse Manchester United needs Britain’s “Sun”. When Alex does address the press I hope he highlights the hypocrisy of Rooney’s treatment compared with Carragher. Nothing can be done now but ffs at least the unbiased press could condemn the Scouser for nearly breaking a players leg with no attempt to play the ball. Is that so much to fucking ask?
The way they glossed over the incident on MOTD2 was farcical as well, concluding that Carragher ‘may have been lucky’ to get just a yellow. Bad enough as it is, but coming from that smug cunt Colin Murray made it even worse.
How they can let someone who has a tattoo of five stars – representing Pool’s five European cups – on his body (fact) present a highlights show of Liverpool vs United, is beyond me. Dismal lack of impartiality.
@smartalex hi mate thanks, i apologized for calling a fellow red a fucking idiot,the guy who went after me was supposedly sticking up for the guy,i didn’t apologize to him.i’m pretty sure i know who he his comes on here using a different name and you’re right had nothing to do with what i said just wanted to cause trouble he doesn’t like me,doing it under a different name to what i know him by just makes him a sad bastard.
I think Nani’s reaction of getting up and then going back down didnt help!
To ad d to the above it is a case of the boy that cries wolf isnt it. Refs no doubt will ow he goes down easily so the way he was up then down the ref probably thought it was just Nani being Nani as opposed to Carragher clearly commiting an hurrendous tackle.
@kanchelskis – colin murray looks like a spastic version of postman pat, the cunt tries jokes which are never funny and the job which he is supposedly qualified at to present a football highlight, he is abysmal at. the prick should’ve stayed at channel 5 presenting europa league with that twat collymore or go back to wanking over steven me, leave the top level football for those with knowledge about it.
I think Nani now like Cristiano Ronaldo and Drogba have now got a reputation for diving and acting over dramatic. I think their reputation and the fact that he is a foreigner as well makes them a target as the fall guys for referee’s not taking them seriously. I have seen matches when all three have been genuinely fouled but the ref has told them to get up. Unfortunately when you cry wolf to many times people tend not to believe you.
giggs11gerrard0
Fuck that. Dowd was standing a matter of yards away. The red should have been out before Nani had hit the deck, let alone stood up again.
@kanchelskis
At half time, a United fan joked that Nani did it to escape the hair dryer. But that’s in good spirit. Where do the media get off question if he was truly hurt? Why? Because he got back up due to adrenaline? And notice how no one mentioned the thug pushing him back down. It’s a real shame we have to wait 6-12 months before they come to OT again. There will be hell to pay when they do.
don’t know if anyone’s mentioned this mirror reporting nani has gone for at least a month.anyone think the cunt knew if he really did nani and put him out for a while it would harm utds chances of winning 19.he’s a scouse bastard through and through i know that makes him evil but it was a brutal fucking tackle with intent to harm.
Are we all suprised? carragher has had a history of dirty horrendous tackles on players far more talented than he ever was, if we go through the archive of great centre half’s, he is not in the top 20 in my opinion, typical slow english centre half, poor technically, scores own goals for fun, does last ditch tackles every game (which proves a defender has poor positional awareness) liverpool may have won but future looks bleak for them if he is still relied on this often.
@Kancheskis
Mate I kno wthat and you know that I am not depfending the situation at all, I think Nani is our best player this year and was horrified by the tackle. I was merely pointing out that he does go down easily and I think the refs are on to that so when something nasty happens like that it does play a factor. How can it not?
giggs11gerrard0
I think it’s more likely that Dowd was intimidated by the Anfield crowd and the Liverpool players (he’s never officiated a Liverpool defeat or draw at Anfield in something like 12 attempts), than he was going on Nani’s reputation.
Either way, deeply unprofessional.
giggs11gerrard0 says:
I think Nani’s reaction of getting up and then going back down didnt help!
Maybe from a layman’s perspective. But once he felt the scouse breeze hitting his exposed shin bone Nani realised his role in the game was over. Meanwhile he looked over and saw that Carragher would remain on the pitch. Yes he stood up, but he was clearly in pain doing so. If I shot you in your leg and told you to stand up before I shoot you in the face you’d jump up and do the running man, no? A lots been made of Nani’s reaction but if the card had been red like it should’ve been he wouldn’t have got up in the first place. He would have rolled around in pain and waited for the stretcher.
Since when do injured players have to hobble over to blind referees to show their injuries anyway? He fell over because his leg was in need of (X amount) of stitches. He got up because he couldn’t believe Carragher wasn’t getting a red card, I don’t understand whats so hard for people to grasp?
its ok saying nani goes down easy gifted players in the prem are targeted and get battered week in week out,the refs miss twice as many fouls that should be given.the reason on any given day a lower team can get points refs favour the bruisers so many calls are missed.
This morning Alan Brasil was still going on about Rooney at Wigan unbelievable.Keep the black out going they need us we dont need them.
KingCole
Exactly. All the people criticising Nani’s double reaction have obviously never heard of adrenaline. Very basic human biology.
@King Cole
Mate I know pal I was there going mad at the referee we could even see it from the other end of the ground. You are missing my point on saying aside form the hurrendous tackle and the clear red card for Carrager my point was merely saying I dont think Nani’s initial reaction helped and the fact that ASIDE from that tackle on Sun he does go down easily and I think that plays a part. That is my point mate not disputing what the cunt carragher did and not escusing Dowd.
@Wayne
No way mate I am not having that, Nani is a great player but many in Old Trafford are constantly pissed off at how easy he goes down.
Take my comment in the way it is intended, it was a FUCKING HURRENDOUS tackle and that dirty cheat Carragher should have walked but I stand by my point i dont think it helped with it being Nani and the way he can go down reguarly.
@Kanchelskis
“Exactly. All the people criticising Nani’s double reaction have obviously never heard of adrenaline. Very basic human biology.”
I never criticised him, i said the reaction would not have helped him! I dont blame him for what he did but how many people truthfully when it happend thought come on Nani get up what are you doing! I odnt mean after watching replays either. Most of the away end was saying it untiul we realised the nature of the injury.
this article from Daily Star http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/180228/Manchester-United-Nani-s-rage-at-Alex-Ferguson/? said Nani anger at lack of support from Man United! Make my blood boiled!!!
their reference – a source close to Nani!!
If Fergie out and talk about Nani injury to media, he will get more severe punishment from FA.. now he refused, so these scums put up their revenge and made up the story with anonymous telling!!
Now I want this title so so much just to laugh at their faces..
@giggs11 hi mate i’m just saying ok nani might dive but for every foul on him thats called 2 or 3 are missed its was the same with ronaldo when a player takes a hacking game after game and hardly anything gets called i can understand to some point why he’d dive now and again.
every team has players that do it but like everything else nani is singled out because most of the press hate utd.
@Wayne
I completely agree with your comment mate and after the initial Ronaldo dramatics he generally did get kicked up and down dale and I loved the way he would thrive off it. Away form the weekend I think Nani needs to get to that same place as Ronnie did and use his strength more as he is a well stacked man and with his ability he is the best winger in the prem.
I was merely trying to state above which has been taken out context is that week after week he does go down with the slightest contact and refs will be onto that because A) its United and every journo cunt is an ABU and reports it that way and B) Refs will look out for players who tend to go down
If it wasnt that then how could the red card not have been goven?
@giggs11 the red card not given is beyond belief if the fa don’t ban him something wrong,as i mentioned in a earlier post think the cunt did it with the intention of giving nani a long term injury
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@wayne, giggs11gerrard0
Hi guys. Yeah, Nani does go down easily, but like I said last night, it’s really gone unnoticed how he has eliminated that aspect of his game in recent months. Me and other fans gave him a lot of stick after the Liverpool game in September. He was very theatrical on the day and maybe Carragher still remembered. But how often has he dived recently? I can’t remember one instance.
As for his absence, a one month spell on the sidelines shouldn’t affect our league campaign a lot. We can beat Bolton without him. It’s the Arsenal and Marseille games that concern me. And I don’t know if Park will be back for them. He probably won’t.
They can’t ban him Wayne, the ref seen It and booked Carragher. Anyone else feel, that Rooney might as well of been sent off? We’ve suffered, because of It IMO, with two big decisions going against at Chelsea and Liverpool.
*at Wigan*
giggs11gerrard0
I get your point mate, but I don’t think Nani goes down any “easier” than other players. Unless theres a good reason to stay up ALL players go down easily when fouled, its the only way to guarantee the ref blows the whistle. If somebody clips your heels (FOUL) sure you could regain your balance and stay up, but if a free kick is the better option for your team you go down so the ref has no choice but to DO HIS JOB.
The phrase “going down easy” is a misnomer in the modern game because it happens every game every week. Everybody goes down easy. If you are fouled but the ref wont recognise it unless you go down, you’d be a mug to stay on your feet unless its advantageous to your team. I don’t have the stats but im sure Nani is one of the most kicked players in the league this season (corresponding with his assist and goal stats).
Its not a coincidence its players like Ronaldo who are accused of going down easily, should they stay on their feet just because they’re fouled more than the average player? Diving is one thing. But if you are a quality player (like Nani) who is constantly targeted and fouled, you would be a mug to stay up. I know you’ve seen Alex blow up on the sidelines when our players DONT make a meal of certain FOULS, and he is right to, because these Cunting refs will happily wave play on and avoid upsetting away fans if they can get away with it. Shame other players closer than VDS didn’t react in the same way, maybe Carragher might have got the Red he deserves. Thats how the game is today, the ref is reluctant to show red in big games, and all we play at United are BIG GAMES so Nani being singled out as a player who goes down easily is bollocks – All players from Wolves to Barca go down easily – and when your the best winger in the League like Nani you will obviously be fouled more than Joe Average.
@willierednut
In hindsight perhaps, but there are no guarantees we would have won at Wigan, Chelsea or Liverpool without him. And we really need him on Saturday now. I do wish that the media didn’t make a fucking meal out of it, but that’s out of our hands.
@willie ok my mistake thought the fa could review after the fact. why was everyone talking about rooney being banned after the ref missed the elbow then whats the difference?.yes i mentioned few threads ago utd are going to get fuck all from the refs till the end of the season don’t think we’d have missed rooney anyway
Agree with Wayne. Rooney scored a couple of cracker goals, but his overall play is poor. Would we have missed him, that much? I don’t think so. I’m one of wazzas biggest fans, but his form is hit and miss. Berbatov and Hernandez, look a better partnership as well. An inform Rooney, is one of first names on the team sheet, but he’s struggled since the summer for his true form.
1. “Nani goes down easy” – maybe a couple of times, but I have also noticed countless occasions when he could have gone down easy enough and would have been justified in doing so, but tried to make the best of it.
2. The arguement “If Rooney hadn’t done the elbow thing, refs wouldnt have had it against us” is utter bollox. Rooney could have fellated Terry, Gerrard and Martin Atkinson till he gagged, on prime time TV, and we would still have had the same decisions going against us. The Rooney thing is just a convenient mask for the media, the refs and the media to hide their ABU-ism
3. Can we please have a new thread? Every time I come on this one, I get this sickening vision of Nani’s torn shin and its just getting a bit too much for a sensitive sould like me.
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Sport/Story/STIStory_642809.html?
Gill on the Glazers.
Boys, any truth regarding Paul McGuinness took Pogba, Ravel Morrison, and Ryan Tunnicliffe to the match on Sunday ? They were in the away end with all United supporters. Thats what i heard.
Costas – Seen a bit of that in the news.
In Nani’s absence, I think Saturday is a great opportunity to see what Obertan can do. Lets surround him by first team players and see if he can raise his game. I’d prefer that, rather than playing Rooney or Fletch on the right.
@willie
I don’t remember well, but has Fergie talked to the fans about the Glazer situation? I can only remember one time where he addressed them in his pre match comments for a magazine.
@willie … yeah, i sort of felt that some of the bad decisions we got might have been a reaction to Rooney not getting sent off.
@wayne … an incident can only be reviewed if the referee says he didn’t see it, or that he did see it but made a mistake. In the Carragher incident, the referee clearly saw it — he was not far away and had a clear view.
With the Rooney incident, the ref said he saw it. However, this has been bugging me, because he appears to be having an each-way bet. On the one hand, he says he saw it. On the other hand, according to his own report, he also asked both Rooney and McCarthy what happened (why would he bother, if he saw it?). Also, in the press, he has let it be known (speaking through anonymous sources) that while he saw the players “come together” out of the corner of his eye, he didn’t see the elbow until later, when he watched MOTD. At which point, he suddenly got an attack of the guilts.
Given all that, it seems that any of the following statements would accurately reflect what happened, and would have allowed him to force a review:
1. “I saw the players come together. However, I now believe there was an additional, related incident that I did not see at the time.”
2. “At the time, I thought I saw the incident but now believe I did not see it clearly, with the result that my on-field ruling (a free kick, no cards) may have been incorrect.”
Obviously, it’s clear that he didn’t see the elbow. I think he, and everyone else, is getting hung up over the fact that he “the incident”. If he saw the “coming together” but not the elbow, then obviously he hasn’t seen everything that he needed to see, and I don’t see why that couldn’t have been wiggled into a review under the current rules.
Why should I care? Frankly, because I think we, United, have suffered as a result of this decision. And because, honestly, I do think Rooney was wrong.
sir alex is utds delegate but he’s not saying fuck all.lol.one thing for sure if ever a time utd need rooney to prove he’s world class and that he still wants to be at utd its now.
@Stateside thanks mate to me that would fit under did see it but made a mistake a yellow for that was a fucking joke
Ha ! Our boy rooney still on the everyone’s lips.
@willierednut
2 big games he shouldn’t have played in IMO. Lets really look at what it means to put Dimitar on the bench- against Chelsea and Hernandez against Liverpool.For me its a possible 6 points and a sock in the mouth of the media. The 2 aforementioned players are on great form,have played a huge role in getting us top and yet when the 2 big games come round they find themselves playing second fiddle to £1000 a night experience wayne rooney.
The boy hasn’t shown any reason for me why he shouldn’t have been on the bench for those 2 games;at least one of them. He’s not been at his best,Period. Can’t beat a man to save his life,for him doing those passes he sparys to the wings justifies what the hype is all about, BULLSHIT ! Why won’t the media cream about Wilshire, its simple he’s playing a whole lot better than the golden boy of England. And to add i’m not even for a second thinking he’s a better player, he’s just playing to his potential and talent and that is something Wayne’s not doing. Its real shame if you ask me, we need him now and for some one dicked the club around last year over money it feels like a kick in the teeth to me.
Just had a thought…
Anyone else think there may be some mind games in the lack of news over Nani’s injury? I know the blackout was imposed before it happened, and the rumblings at the moment seem to be missing a few games. But would anyone be surprised if he miraculously appeared on the starting lineup against his beloved Arsenal on Saturday?
A part of me hopes not, because it will only fuel the boneheads saying he only left the action on Sunday cos he’s a pussy. But it would be a real boost to see him up against Clichy, who’s always struggled with him in the past. Especially since Arsenal are currently using similar ‘mindgames’ with Van Persie.
I’m not holding my breath though.
Costas says:
In Nani’s absence, I think Saturday is a great opportunity to see what Obertan can do. Lets surround him by first team players and see if he can raise his game. I’d prefer that, rather than playing Rooney or Fletch on the right.
For the first half Fletcher did a decent job on the right against Chelsea but he tired/faded for the second. Obertan hasn’t had a decent crack at the first team and Arsenal would be the type of big game he reckons he wants to play in. We might even see Fabio on the Left after his goal, and Bebe could do with a big game like Arsenal as well. The must win game is Marseilles and Fletcher will be more important for that game. Rooney out wide clearly doesn’t work and our main players are already knackered so its better to change the side for the FA Cup than Europe. Alex has been more dogmatic than usual with team selection recently but with Nani out I hope he throws caution to the wind and gives the youngsters a chance. Obertan and Bebe are both capable of putting the ball firmly in the back of the net, so I’d like to see them in an otherwise full strength squad. Arsenal will also be thinking about Europe.
No matter how badly we need Nani, I wouldn’t want him back until he is fully fit. Despite the fear of sounding queer, Nani’s legs are precious and need to be given all care necessary to ensure that he is back to 100% fitness.
don’t think so mate i read two articles this morning one saying nani gone for a month another saying the gash is so deep the doctors are worried about the healing becoming infected,if that happens could be the end of nani’s season
@King Cole
I thought Fletch was good against Chelsea as well and thought he would have looked better playing in front of Rafael as he could have bombed past and Fletch sit in when needed like how Park does for Evra in the big games!
I agree with KingCole.
Time for Obertan to be thrown into the fire and see if he can come out as a worthy United player. He definitely has the talent. Now all he needs is to give us some credible performance on the field.
@KingCole
Yeah, it’s also a case of resting one or two players. Plus, if Fergie wants to play Fletch and Rooney on Saturday, he can to play then in their best position and use Obertan as a winger. Good idea about Fabio. I’d love to see him start as a left winger and see how he will do.
One thing though. Arsenal play in Europe today. So for them, it will just be a case of how much they will have left after the Barcelona game.
http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/857492-nani-leg-injury-could-get-infected-and-end-his-season
Costas – I don’t think he has much mate. Fergie IMO, is caught in the middle of Glazer argument. Whatever he does, or says, will never please everyone. Agree about Obertan. Why not give him another chance in the cup. The way we’re suffering from injuries, we ain’t got much choice.
@Costas
Not only that mate if Arselona go out tonight then the they will be bang up for the FA cup on two fronts 1) they need a trophy to show for their season 2) it will give them a massive boost in th eleague mentally if they beat us on Sat.
King Eric has been raving about some of the younger kids for months why not give them a chance the present squad is banged up and tired.
king cole i do agree with you that the youngsters should be given a chance but not against arsenal in a cup game. arsene wenger has already stated that he will field his strongest arsenal side in the cup we also have to field our strongest side in the cup and that will have to exclude obertan. besides tony v might play on saturday let’s see if he’s up to speed. and i hope hernandez gets the start, he’s such a great player.
I don’t see a player shortage,with the exception of Nani and possibly Park it is for sure Valencia is in the reserves on Wednesday and that will only be for a reaction test,if none he will defo play some part Vs the Arse other wise strong team.
I don’t think Nani will be back this weekend. If the gash is as deep as people are saying, they will need to allow time for it to heal properly, otherwise the stitches will tear. Worst cut I ever had was when a put an ax in my foot. I was 12 or 13 at the time, still got the scar. Admittedly, it was a foot, not a shin, and medical science has improved out of sight since then. But still, it was weeks before I could walk on it, and I wasn’t trying to play football in the premier league!
If he was cut to the bone, as people are saying, they probably had to do internal stitches. Also, being on his shin, they have to deal with it being covered by a shin guard and sock while playing, which I think is where the infection concerns come in. All that sweat and dirt…
Honestly, I am not optimistic about a quick return.
We can’t expect Tony V or Park (but especially Tony) to be up to full match fitness yet. Even with the best physio and training and all the rest of it, players say it takes 4-6 full matches for them to get proper match fitness.
I have been thinking
Are we now the official news outlet for Manchester United?
What an honour
For every Lawton, there is ten morons degrading the manager
Frustration With Ferguson Starting To Set In
http://www.theunitedreligion.com/2011/03/frustration-with-ferguson-starting-to.html
i would love to see obertan playing with the first team and its a shame Nani is injured IMO he should have made a few substitute appearances for nani while valencia was injured,not sure if he was injured himself during that period. Then again i wouldn’t be surprised if Nani made a miracle recovery and started the arsenal game
Only rapists think that girls in short skirts deserve to be raped.
Nani runs with the ball, so he gets tackled. That does not mean he cried wolf.
He does not deserve Carra’s tackle or a ref’s callous disregard.
To say Nani goes down easily is to show your anti-Nani bias. It simply is not true.
To expect that football should be reserved for stoic concrete blocks like Vidic, when complaining about our uncreative midfield, or yearning for free flowing football, is to earn the scorn of sensible men. To consider that Nani should be unemotive when repeatedly and illegally targeted, in order to be eligible for some justice upon a future GBH assault, is moronic, and shows a clear hatred for Nani.
Slim – Wouldn’t surprise me either, if Nani was to make a quick recovery. Then, the media would say Nani wasn’t really hurt after all. Can’t see it, though.
@Giggs11
Spot on. Fletch needed a little support against Chelsea I was disappointed not to see Rafa available. Mrs O’Shea has taken the edge off the Irishman and we didn’t have anybody to replace Fletch on the wing. Thats how close than game was, Fletch did brilliantly early on but I guess he doesn’t have the legs to run up and down the flank for 90 mins.
@Saad
Thats what I thought when I read Costas post mate. We’ve all seen what Obertan can do on the left (on either foot no less) so lets throw him in against Arsenal see what happens. Bebe too. Compared to the first team games they have played, I think a less physical game would suit them coming back into the side. Having Vidic and hopefully Rio back will help as long as Alex doesn’t play it too safe. Obi and Bebe both deserve an appearance with all these injuries, either starting or coming on later. Bebe was slated for his FA Cup showing and true his final delivery and use of the ball just wasn’t quality enough, but I still saw enough to warrant another look. He needs games to get the belief he is a United player. He has the raw ability to change a game and shock everyone, so does Obertan.
@Costas
I think its only the once Fabios been put on the left for us and he finished brilliantly. Nearly scored when he came on against Chelsea too. I’d be surprised if Arsenal didn’t knock out Barca through mate, the pressure isn’t on them so they don’t have to chase the game, and they do have the players. Teams in Spain rarely stand up to Barca and they hardly ever have to overturn a deficit in their league. History aside they are completely over-rated for me, a quality team on their day but who isn’t? We knocked them out, Chelsea “knocked them out” and Arsenal are halfway there. I expect them to make a match of it tonight, whether they bottle it as usual is anybodies guess, but its theirs to lose. Personally I want them to win, im sick off the Barcelona bias they’re a great team but they’d never win the EPL.
utd have nani,tony v,park,rio,anderson all either injured or maybe coming back after layoffs,with giggs and scholes being asked to play far to much and its beginning to show. how is that a strong squad?
If I shot you in your leg and told you to stand up before I shoot you in the face you’d jump up and do the running man, no?
I would be walking on water, King Cole! Good points, well made!
hammons
I read that – that’s very very very good
Maybe we should start our own newspaper
@Smartalex
Jesus mate talk about taking it out of context and not reading properly!
Nani is United’s most important player, I think the kid is class and he is having a great season so dont know where you are referencing rape and Anti Nani from.
I was stating I think he may be a victim of the boy cried wolf! For FFS people go off on ridiculous arguments when they have not readt the comment in contect.
@ smarkAlex well said!
@Dannysoya,
I get your point mate, its not ideal but the problem is we have to see next weeks game as the bigger one. If we field our strongest side this weekend, like they will, thats basically the same team we had away to Chelsea and Liverpool. We’ll obviously need our strongest team for the CL next week and thats too many big games in a row. These players were playing back to back before the Chelsea game as well so something needs to give. If we do change the side I’d rather it be against Arsenal for the FA Cup than the CL. I’ve got genuine faith Obi can handle one half against the Gooners ffs have some confidence in the squad mate! Agreed a European night is too big a game to mess about, but the FA Cup is a classic occasion to bring in new blood. I’d be gutted if we we’re knocked out, but based on our injuries we may as well gamble. I hope we see a confident and exciting team selection for the Saturday, then back to basics for the bigger game on Tuesday.
@Giggs11
I don’t think he’s talking about you mate!
“Nani runs with the ball, so he gets tackled. That does not mean he cried wolf.
He does not deserve Carra’s tackle or a ref’s callous disregard.”
That was never in question the tackle was hurrendous and Carragher should have been showed Red.
I never said he cried wolf, i said is a vicim of that form previous that when he was actually really hurt it went unpunished
@King Cole
Or mate I wish I never posted the comment haha
hammons i love that article. i absolutely LOVE IT. i am in full support of the media blackout. and also i found it funny how you thrashed that sham article claiming that Nani was angry with Sir Alex. no quotes NOTHING!!! LOLL. keep up the good work man.
I still think if Nani had of stayed down, then the ref would’ve sent Carragher off. Also, Carraghers reaction, told you everything. He knew, he done Nani.
@wayne … it simply isn’t possible to build a squad that’s strong enough to deal with every challenge you get during a long season on many fronts. Even if some mega-mega billionaire came along and bought the entire first team squads of United, Real and Barca, so that there would always be plenty of quality reserve, you can still only start 11 players in a match and play 3 others. Our first-choice players are first-choice because they are better than the others in the squad. The others in the squad are not first choice, because they’re not as good. If they were as good, they wouldn’t be prepared to sit around in the reserves waiting for their chance. They wouldn’t be prepared to play only a small percentage of matches a year. They would want their time in the major domestic and CL matches. And if they were good enough to be first teamers for us, they’d be able to walk into a regular starting role for anyone else.
So when we have a run of injuries like this, yes, we have to make do. As does everyone else. And yet, still we lead the league.
For me, what makes it worse is that I go on to the internet to search for updates on the player and instead find ridiculous posts/tweets/articles making jokes about Nani. People are saying it was his own fault for diving/falling down in the past. Then there’s the tasteless gifs and jokes. Everything from Liverpool fans is just out of order and typical of how they’re known to act. Even in the aftermath of the biggest win in their otherwise shitty season, they act like first class cunts. I know there’s always going to be a component of both sides that act reprehensibly but it seems like all Liverpool fans are showing their true stripes now.
@hammons … good article. Re, “Taylor’s flimsy article was only a pathetic 232 words long – his title was 10 words – but since he used proper grammar and correct punctuation that is enough to make him a creditable journalist, right?” Who said he used proper grammar and punctuation? It’s the subs who fix that stuff. For all we know, he’s an illiterate swine — most reporters are. Most reporters think a “period” is something that happens once a month, a “colon” is something you crap out of, and a “bracket” is a relative measure of your salary versus everyone else.
Anyone who is imagining Nani in a mini skirt should delete their profile on the way out.
giggs11gerrard0 – I have read every comment on every thread. I’d have to search back to the first half of last year to find a thread on RoM where I haven’t read every comment. When I fall days behind, I catch up. RoM is probably the best source of real United news on the net. If it’s relevant it will be mentioned, discussed and linked. In this reading I have come to respect your contributions. We haven’t communicated directly, but I count myself extremely fortunate to be able to ‘live’ the lives of so many true United fans, of which you are one. I am also clear that we do not love and support our players in the same way. Any thoughts or ideas that go to the support of Nani deserving, earning, or even failing to consciously avoid an illegal and abhorrent attack is fatally flawed. Your reasoning holds water, but in the same way as a mini skirt asks for rape. There is absolutely definitely nothing that Nani has ever done to warrant Carra’s attack, or a referee condoning such brutality.
@Stateside not sure why you’re addressing the answer about the squad to me all I said was king eric been raving about some of the youngsters.if their good enough their old enough.lots of kids have made a impact
I kneed a pool scum at the game today mornin. Think he won’t be back for a few days. I’m such a horrible person.
Just wondering …if Nani had stayed on the ground rather than rolling around and gettingup carragher would have got sent off – I don’t think nani has mastered the art of dramatics- I think needs lessons from ronaldo – lmao. As a man u fan, I could not help but laugh at nani for getting up after that horrific tackle lmao
We could play O’Shea and Brown on the wings. They don’t go down easily.
They won’t earn the derision of referees by being knocked over.
If ever they are targeted by Carra, the ref will be more likely to care.
hi guys
have you read what our former star Teddy Sheringham said? http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/891038/teddy-sheringham:-man-utd-lack-a-leader-in-the-side?cc=4716
What he said backs up what i said after our Anfield lost. We dont have anybody we can turn to right now.
I even questioned Vida’s captaincy. We need somebody who can lead us mentally and spiritually.
wayne … I was referring to your comment back at 14:43: “utd have nani,tony v,park,rio,anderson all either injured or maybe coming back after layoffs,with giggs and scholes being asked to play far to much and its beginning to show. how is that a strong squad?” I was addressing the last sentence. No offence intended, just debating!
@Smaralex
“Your reasoning holds water, but in the same way as a mini skirt asks for rape. There is absolutely definitely nothing that Nani has ever done to warrant Carra’s attack, or a referee condoning such brutality.”
This is my last comment on my earlier post as I am losing the wil to live, I dont condone it, and it should never be condoned, the tackle was horrifc but I stated the way he went down and got back up didnt help his cause (rightly or wrongly). The reason i stated this was what I believe is the perception of Nani and how he has form to go down when he is not hurt hence the expression the boy that cries wolf. I said that because he didnt get anything and the reaction of the ref and the pool players was evident to this fact. That was all i was saying.
Again – I love Nani, he is a class player, he was assaulted and Carragher should be facing a ban, I cant believe the ref never gave him his marching orders so you comment on my support for my player of which i believe is derserving is absolutely incorrect.
kanchelskis – I fucking detest Colin Murray. I hated him when I had to listen to him in my mates car with that skanky little bitch Edith Bowman on Childrens radio, sorry Radio one. He is a weasly little know it all cunt. Thinks he knows it all about Football, Music and Film. Fuck off Dipper.
time for one of the young players to step up, I would give any one of pogba,morrison,tunnicliff a run out on saturday.
we have nothing to lose, number 19 has to what we want to win ,above all else!!!
9 games from history thats what this club is all about ( making history )
any one of the above named players could be our missing link in midfield, we know fergie likes his young players, so throw one in.
I feel now is the time, if your good enough, your old enough!!!!!
forget sunday, believe, 19 is on its way, that will shut them scouse cunts up once & for all.
dazbomber – He is another I hate. Alan fucking bighead Brazil. Couldnt make the grade at United so turns abu. The fat cunt is half pissed all the time anyway so you won’t get a modicum of sense out of that one.
Really cannot see Nani being out a month! Its just the tabloids so far saying “according to reports”. Err what fucking reports as there is a media blackout.
@smartalex and giggs11gerrard0 … for what it’s worth, at the time of the Carragher assault, I too wondered what Nani was doing by getting back and running over to the referee. I too thought, well he can’t be that badly hurt, can he? I think I also said to my son, “what’s he playing at?” It was only later, when the nature of his wound became apparent, that I understood what was going on — so, no blame to him. Let’s not forget too, that when he went to the referee, Dowd would have been able to see the damage. The blood. The shinbone poking through. Shame on him, and shame on everyone who defends the cunt. Undying shame on those who suggest Nani in any way deserved it or got what was coming to him. Shame on them all.
@MG . WTF have i got to do wiv Coli? Just because you didnt like what i said about the Fat robbin scouse git Ruiny, you pair me off with a nutter! Wayne seemed to agree with me about that issue, the fact that SAF leaves a proven goal scorer on the bench and consistently plays some has been instead. Time to go SAF and take MG with you.
I wouldn’t be opposed to giving some of the younger guys a run out on Saturday, given the circumstances we are in. The PL is definitely the main thing for us this year (number 19!) and who knows, if one or two of those guys was to play The Arse and do well, they could be rewarded with some action in the PL run in. I’m not clear on eligibility, though. I know a squad can have an unlimited number of players under 21, but I thought they still had to be nominated as being in the squad, and I’m not sure if some of those guys are. But I could be wrong, and hopefully, I am.
@Stateside Aussie
Nicely summarised mate, exactly my view point on the incident! That brings it to a conclusion for me.
Where abouts in the states are you based?
You go instead of MG and SAF, middy. For what it’s worth, Nani has suffered form his reptition, like Ronnie before him. That doesn’t excuse Carraghers assault on Nani. I said last night, just wait till someone does Suarez, because that’ll happen and Dalglish will be spitting feathers.
@hammons great post man keep it up. You nailed it Arse playes barca and Rent boyz played yesterday, but all stories are about Man Utd.
willierednut, hi mate. I think that the ref had taken out the yellow card a few seconds before Nani saw it, and reacted by jumping up. The ref then saw Nani’s gash, then pocketed the card and moved back to better survey the scene that was unfolding. Officials are encouraged to avoid delay in decision making, under the premise that taking time is of no aid, and appears indecisive. This includes referees being instructed to show the card colour immediately, to stop players trying to influence. The card colour cannot change, as it has already been adjudicated. A further card may be issued for new evidence or another transgression. If the ref had also seen another incident prior to taking out the card, he could have awarded that yellow, and then a red for Carra’s tackle that clearly occurred very high. Alternatively had Carra pushed Nani to the ground, 2 yellows would have been shown to Carra.
The ref had misjudged the severity of the tackle, committed to yellow, and Carra kept visible and calm. No way out for the ref.
Like it or not, Video Tech could have plucked Carra from the field in seconds.
With regard to the youngets I dont think Arsenal is the game for them, they are having a decent season and will be bang up for it, i think this is a game for the squad players not featuring to step up and make thier opportunity count i.e. Brown, Fabio, Kuszack / Lindergaard, Gibson, Obertan, and the wonderful Herandez.
Nooooooo. I actually do not want Obertan or Bebe to face Arsenal. Fletcher on the right all day long for me and can cover in the middle if needed. Valencia may well be back. Lets hope he plays for Reserves tomorrow. Yes they both scored but I really don’t think they have the mentality for the Arsenal game. Bebe isn’t ready, at a push Obertan. Cannot say I am fond of either playing at the minute though.
StatesideAussie
Nah, there’s no need for them to be registered when they’re that age. They can just wonder into the squad at any time. Hence Ravel’s brief cameo in the CC earlier in the season.
King Eric – Your right on Bebe mate I would be happy never to see him play for United again (harsh i know its just where i stand) he will never make it as a United player no matter how much time he has. I reference Obertan simply becuase I think SAF will play him even though again many United fans (probably all) dont see him as United quality.
Tony V back will be a huge bonus, the guy is class and exactly what we are missing at the moment.
Oh its the idiot MIDDYRED again wanting Fergie out. Fuck off .
I would rather see Morrison, Tunni or Pogba than Obertan or Bebe , unfortunately NONE of them are wingers. We will get through the next week or two, its what we do. If its a headache to us imagine what it is to Fergie. He will have summat up his sleeve. Even Pat on the left wing. He is basically a winger anyway.
@wrn. I havent mentioned Carraghers ‘tackle’ have i? an instant dismissal if ever i saw one. We obviously missed Rio and Vid and it showed. Smalling is just a boy thrown into the lions den along with Wes who hasnt had a consistent run for ages. As for throwing in some of our wonder kids, WHAT wonder kids is Stateside Aussie talking about? everyone that has been given a chance has flopped . Thats why Scholesy and Giggsy are still playing. Should have kept hold of Kieren Richardson for example. SAFs signings of the likes of Bebe, Gibbson Obertan are a fckin joke, NOT premiership players, if we werent so fcking SKINT we need to buy and buy serious to stop the rot before the likes of scholes and giggs have heart attacks.
@Stateside I was responding to parryhied who didn’t think we had a player shortage forgot to put the name in
giggs11gerrard0
So you don’t think that Nani cries wolf, you were talking about the fact that the ref probably does?
Thanks for clarity, I am really glad that you are who you always seem to be, a true United man.
Thanks StatesideAussie, for your active care.
Solskjaer was a proven goalscorer, and even then, most of his appearances came as a sub.
Back then, I was as baffled as anybody, and thought SAF was mad. I’d be so happy if I saw Solskjaer in the starting eleven, which was far and few.
It was quite a few season later that I learnt it was initially due to some doubts over his fitness, and later on, it was because Solskjaer had a really good footballing brain and knew how to make himself a nuisance against the opposition defenders after having observed them from the bench. No, he doesn’t spend his time on the bench texting or having massive headphones on.
Time to go SAF… whoever said that is a mere mortal. You are nowhere near having the right to doubt that great a man. Just because you spend a few quid buying jerseys or attending matches or paying for cable/sat TV to catch games does not give you a right to question the man who has brought us years and years of joy. Without him, you’d probably be a rentboy. Or a dipper. Or a bitter. Of which all equate to being a right ass.
Giggs11Gerrard0 – Hello mate, you well? I know its harsh mate and I never bash players on here BUT i just don’t rate these two YET. They may make it , they probably won’t. I have seen them for the reserves alot and Obertan soemtimes does ok, and usually bags but no neither of them for Saturday. Wherever Bebe is on the pitch all he does is smash balls into the 18 yard box. Never even seen him beat a man. The OT crowd will get frustrated as we know how impatient they can be and it could all go tits up. No I would rather see one of the other 3 I mentioned before these two.
MIDDYRED
The ‘signing’ of Gibson?
Oh dear. Shows how much you know, doesn’t it?
Now jog on.
So we have plenty of great scouts in here who are better than one of our ex assistants Queiroz.
Bebe will never make it? You were probably one of those who said Nani will be sold midway through his second season. And Berbatov in his first.
@SmartAlex – Indeed mate thats what I have been trying to put across I am glad we both agree now!
@King Eric – Mate dont even reply to people who want SAF out as they clearly wasnt around before SAF came in and not only changed the team but the club. SAF is and still is the best manager the game has ever seen, I will gladly have that argument with any scouser as well.
MIDDYRED – Then, make your points properly. You want rid of the manager and bring who in who, exactly? I agree we need signings. The summer will be big for United, but there’s no need for knee jerk reactions. I don’t believe United are skint. The debt has dropped to 375 million. And that’s the net debt. I’m sure money will be made available, but then it’s up to SAF to spend the money wisely, which he will.
MIDDYRED
United fan?
Are you?
You sure?
Read your own words back to yourself little one and see which part of you is a red
Firstly can you explain Manu? Bet you can’t
Next you are not the manager of Manchester United – you are a mere supporter of the club like everyone else – The man who is the manager of the club who has so painstakingly rebuilt it after years of neglect is the man you are saying to get lost – If Manchester United stand tall today it’s because of his fight and dedication which still burns passionately today. To get United where it is and has been and will forever be long after he’s gone is a measure of the man – you are fucking nothing in comparison.
You want him gone? Why don’t you walk – United is for life – a supporter is tested when the going gets tough – when the shit hits the fan – when people are throwing things at you – what for losing some games? – partly our fault partly refs fault partly because of injuries – but guess what – I and many like me can take it – we’ll fucking take it because we believe that after Manchester United has been dragged through utter contempt and shit through the gutter by the press the FA the refs/their unions other supporters, we stand tall together and are prepared to do whatever it takes to protect the club through such disgraceful acts against it.
If a media blackout is the response then so be it – you are so fucking full of it – you would have realised that they have not been spoken to yet they are making up stories lying about United – that in itself won’t do it for you – so carry on up their fucking backsides – if you are prepared to let your club be disrespected in this way – you are no supporter of Manchester United – so go think about it and blow your fuse accordingly
If you do reply do not fucking bark – if you don’t reply more the merrier for me not engaging with a fucking lunatic like you.
YorYor – Mate you dont need to go down that road, I have always openly stated that Berbatov has the best touch in football and think it is an outrage when he doesnt play – He is a genious. With Nani I dont think any doubted his talent it was more his mentality and maturity people questioned.
Just because I have a strong view on one player doesnt mean you fall into a stereotype mate of hating all players.
Just because Qeuirez scouted him doesnt mean I am trying to big myslef up as a socut, every team signs players that dont work out and we have had our fair share starting with Ralphy Milne, Djemba Djemba, Kleberson, Taibi, even at the time of signing (for me) the best midfielder in the world Veron. it doesnt always work out mate and im sorry but Bebe will be another player not ot have made it
@middyred … you’re an idiot, fuck off. My overriding fear for this club is that some dumb cunt like you, but with money, will one day buy the club and start playing Football Manager. Fuck off, again.
@giggs11gerrard0 … I am based on California (which isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, by the way) but spend most of my time on planes and in hotels. And that’s not all it’s cracked up to be, either
Right now, though, I have a few weeks at home.
@wayne,. no worries, simply misunderstanding. Peace and goodwill!
@MG
Fucking great post mate
@Stateside
Nice mate I lived in Pasadena for a year after Uni before returning back to sunny Manchester
giggs11gerrard0 … pasadena, eh? I’m in the north, in Sacramento. at least in “sunny” Manchester you have the opportunity to go to matches!
THE TRUTH SOMETIMES HURTS BUT, LIKE MEDICINE HAS TO BE TAKEN OR LISTENED TO.
MIDDYRED
Yeh, and utter drivel is irritating, and like dogshit, it doesn’t have to be eaten or listened to.
If United never win another game under SAF, all true supporters should remember all
that he has achieved, and will continue to achieve in the future.
Would supporters like someone like Harry Rednapp in charge, with him stopping
at the gates of Carrington talking to Sky Sports News every bloody day.
Or do we want a man who bleeds red white and black, who stands up to everybody.
and fights his corner both on and off the pitch for the Reds – Oh, and he wins a few
trophies as well.
For Christs sake we are top of the league in March – if that was offered last autumn
we would have snapped their hands off, when the rent boys were well clear.
I think everybody realises that this United team is not a vintage one, but by sheer guts
and willpower, we are where we are.
Lets hope there is player investment in the summer, with at least 2 signings,and the
loan players returning.
“The truth can be manipulated and when it is those that stand on shoulders of giants rise.”
Fuck off MIDDYRED you haven’t got anything on me – I’ll bleed you dry with words you don’t even want to go where you think you can go.
im with middyred – fergie out mancini in
@King Eric
give it a rest mate… u seen obertan and bebe after like 15 games out??
look at rooney.. he plays every game and still cant pass/control properly
i wouldnt be upset if i saw bebe or obertan on the team sheet to be honest… obertan more as he has a little more experience than bebe…
So, If Arsenal beat Barcelona and then we beat Arsenal in the cup, does that make us the best team in Europe?
I like it when MG talks trash.
Saturday’s game might pose an interesting dilemma for Sir Alex. Obertan or Valencia on the right. I’d go with Fabio on the left and the rest of the team would be the big guns. Giggs will be rested for Marseille. Whoever playes on the right on Saturday, has a chance to impress the manager and get picked for Marseille. Unless, Sir Alex plans to play like this next Tuesday:
Rooney, Carrick, Scholes, Fletcher, Giggs – Berbatov (or Hernandez)
A 4-5-1 would make for a tight game. I know that most of us would like to attack Marseille from the off, but there’s too much at stake.
Hello Costas. Does that possibility have Giggs on the right?
I hate how Chelsea and Liverpool build their squads, not to mention how our neighbours do in the market. But keeping faith is of paramount importance now.
We cannot allow ourselves to be blind to the fact that the midfield is in need of strengthening, that we could spend some quid on some players, but NOW is NOW. We have to keep the faith, the faith that this team CAN win the title. Come summer, there might be a culling, but we MUST keep the faith and believe.
We will not die.
@smartalex
Hi mate. Sure. When I usually think about possible lineups, I always think that at some point, the wingers might swap places. It’s not often that Giggs would play a full game on the right though. Who did you have in mind to play on the left against Marseille? Evra?
costas … yeah, i like it when MG talks trash too
Re The Arse, we have generally tended to use speed against them, and it’s been very effective. and obertan certainly has plenty of that. But the last time I saw him, I thought he lacked a little bit of composure. Thought he was trying too hard, to be honest. When will Park be back?
I am not keen on starting scholes and giggs together. I don’t mean to slag either of them off, but as honest criticism, I ‘t think both of them are a bit lacking in pace and energy — not their fault, blame Old Man Time. I like to see one of them on the park, but not both. Evra could play wide as a winger — in fact, he used to play as a winger and his style as a fullback isn’t that much different. If we put Fabio in behind him, that might do us on the left — two good, fast attacking players and it would be defensively strong too. I would prefer to do that than have Rooney out left.
If Rooney has to play wide, put him right, but I’d like to see us try what some here have been suggesting: put him in the middle as an attacking midfielder, behind Berbatov, either running up in support of the attack, or dropping back to give the midfield a bit of energy or just make a fucking nuisance of himself. If Berba has the ball, and Rooney runs through, that will at least cause some doubt and confusion among the defenders, give them something else to think about, and I think it’s that sort of situation that Berba’s so good at taking advantage of.
I can’t see Valencia starting against Arsenal. Maybe the bench. He might have a chance for Marseille, just depends on how feels within himself.
Have you seen this????
http://www.thisisanfield.com/2011/03/why-i%E2%80%99d-rather-have-class-and-dignity-than-19-titles/
absolute joke!
@COSTAS, I agree with U, put Fabio on the left for Arsenal, line up VDS,Rafael, Smalling,Vida,Evra-Park, Fletch, Carrick, Scholes, Fabio- Hernandez
@Dimitar … right, keep the faith. I am not sure about a “culling” in summer. Maybe a “bolstering”, though. I could see one established A-list midfielder coming in, especially if Scholes hangs up his boots, while SAF starts to bring more of our youth through. Replacing VDS must be our number one priority, though, and I;m not sure Lindegaard is it (not saying he isn’t, either, just haven’t seen enough of him).
Oh, I’d love to see Park, on the park, but he’s injured.
@StateSideAussie and Willie, Park went through a late fitness test before United set out for Anfield thus He should be fit this weekend.
@stateside – You are in Sacramento? I am in the Bay Area, much better I have to say:)
@Costas
I do like your suggestion, and I admit I want 4 – 5 – 1.
Fletcher Carrick Scholes Giggs
Berbatov Rooney
I think that 4 – 4 – 1 is what we will see. Possibility of Hernandez not Berbatov. We might start Obertan instead of Giggs.
united.george … cheers mate! I don’t mind Sacramento. I almost moved to San Jose a few years back, Had a decent job offer with Adobe, but the cost of living was fucking outrageous. 2 to 3 times what it is here! Only way I could afford it, even with a big pay rise, would have been to live somewhere cheaper and commute an hour or 90 minutes each way, fuck that! And now, since the arse fell out of the housing market, I am stuck here anyway.
Costas, hold your horses! My comment is for Arsenal! I will get back shortly with my marseilles left wing thoughts!
Giggs and Scholes will kept for the Marseille game. The tempo of the game in Europe, isn’t as intense as the premiership. Obertan will probably figure on Saturday, with hopefully Park, if Dan is right, will be ready along with Tony v for the Marseille game.
^ 4 – 4 – 2 ^
The Carra tackle: it’s only James Lawton, the Republik of Mancunia and Rafael that go Over the Top
By Brendan Leary on Mar 8, 11 12:16 PM in Columnists
The Carragher tackle on Nani has prompted some outright hysteria from the likes of James Lawton in the Independent and the poor sensitive paranoid androids on the Republik of Mancunia website.
The views they have expressed – such the idea this was one of the worst fouls in recent memory – are outright unbalanced and as well as lacking in clarity.
Look, as a Liverpool fan let me be very clear: by the standards of most referees in most games this season, that would be a red card. I would have had no complaints had Carragher got a red for it. It was reckless, no doubt.
But one of the worst fouls in recent memory? Please. It was late and high – halfway up his shin. But Carragher didn’t go airborne and unlike Rooney’s elbow, there was no malice.
Watch the incident again.
Nani first touch is with Carragher two yards away. Nani has his weight on his right foot and controls it with his left.
Nani’s first touch is uncharacteristically poor. The ball bobbles, bouncing about a foot in the air. Carragher is a yard away from Nani with the ball .
.
Ha Ha, a wee piece from “Liverpool Banter” keep up the good work.
stateside
l was in the states to visit my son who lives and works in new york state lt was a small town but my son told us to be careful where we went and keep to the main roads and don’t use the side streets.
lt was nothing like hollywood what with the poverty as well l was glad to get back to salford.
l would put in 1 of your laughing smilies at this point if l knew how (any clues) but l’m only what is referred to as a silver server.
@willie … that’s a good point about the tempo of European matches being slower, and therefore something that Giggs and Scholes are more able to deal with these days.
I Still Have A Funny Feeling Nani Will Be involved Against Arsenal. Remember Van Persie?”four weeks knee injury” suddenly returns! No disrespect to Van Persie but Nani’s fitness is much better. Fingers Crossed!
Costas, I hear some talk of Park, but putting that aside, Rooney must start on the left (again) and Fletcher on the right (again)! Obertan is also a good choice against Marseilles. I do feel influenced by willierednut’s intelligent view that Scholes and Giggs should start in Europe; however, three consecutive losses to chelsea, then liverpool, then arsenal is far worse than going out the CL, and we play arsenal first. I would like us to prioritize arsenal.
@tommy, yeah, it does pay to be careful, especially if you don’t know your way around. I spent several months in Manhattan last year and had no troubles, liked it a lot. Recently, I have been spending a lot of time in a small town called Towson, outside Baltimore. Baltimore is no place for the feint-hearted, but Towson was fine, met a lot of great people there. Hahaha, the GPS system in my car actually has a red alert warning if you go into areas with high crime rates.
But hey, you can find trouble anywhere if you want to. I’ve been around the place a bit, lived in Asia, here, been to England, Europe and India a lot, grew up in Australia, and never really had any trouble to speak of, and it’s not like I shut myself in a hotel and never go out.
The poverty here can be amazing. There’s very little social support (not saying that’s right or wrong, just observing) and the health care system is a mess. I have health care through my work, but I still don’t know what I’d do if I got seriously ill. First time I went to San Francisco, I couldn’t believe the number of homeless on the street — and that was way before the recession. Even here, in midsize Sacramento, every second intersection has someone with a sign up begging for help.
As for smileys, the “codes” are just plain text. To get this one
you type colon-dash-close bracket
: – )
but without any spaces. To get this one
you type colon-lol-colon
: lol :
again without any space. Cheers mate!
@Dandivine7 … time will tell, but unless the gash is much less serious than we have been led to believe, I can’t see him playing this weekend. It’s not a question of fitness. It’s a question of getting a deep wound to heal. And as I pointed out earlier, given it’s location on the shin, there was to be some concern about keeping it clean, what with the shinguard and a sock right there, full of dirt and sweat. Unless they can be sure the wound is closed and won’t re-open, I can’t see them risking it.
@tommy, I forgot to ask…. I have no idea what a “silver server” is
Thanks Costas
Regarding the Rooney elbow incident – I’d like to watch the video of both Rooney and McCarthy for the 10 or so minutes that preceded the elbow.
Rooney took a cheap shot, no doubt, but it looked to me like payback for something that might have happened earlier.
My team for Le Arse:
VDA
O’Shea Vida Rio/Smalling Evra
Rafael Fletch Scholes Carrick Park/Giggs
Rooney
And ohh Middy, get off it will ya…it doesnt matter what the dippers/rentboys/shiityfans say or think…this is about standing up for what you believe in, and we prefer it that way, and won’t have it any other fuckin way. We refuse to be bitches of the FA and the media.
I am going to be slaughtered but I truly thinks this way. I am going to make some points, so just don’t jump to kill me and explain me where do you think I am wrong. I can’t believe people want Obertan and Bebe in arse game. I am not one to judge or made my mind too early, but these two are obvious. They both are absolute shit. None of that “they are for future” and “they are too young” crap. I just don’t think that they have anything close to the raw talent that is required to succeed in Man Utd. I saw them play several games I am puzzled by the fact that Welback is not playing and these two clowns do. Can anyone please state that they think that either Bebe or Obertan are better than Welback? I really hope that I am wrong, but in my heart I know that they will not succeed. It’s no big deal though, cause we didn’t spend too much money on them and that brings me to my more “reckless” comment “Our transfer policy for the past several years has been shit” Yep I just said it. I don’t think it was atrocious, but I believe too much money were spent with very marginal return. Close to 36 Mil on Hargo and Andy, wasted IMO. No comments required on Hargo, but I would like to remind everyone that right before we bought him he broke his leg and was only back in game for couple of months. It was serious enough to hold on his move IMO. Andy has been disappointing to say the least. Pathetic return on goals, injured a lot and in these 3 years he might have had 5-8 good to great games and has been shit most of the time. The worst part is that, it’s even more unknown as to what role is he going/trying to play in the team. He is not young anymore and 3 years is a long time. We also have the small fry like Obertan and Bebe, but I already talked about them. Now it comes the biggest mistake (ineffective use if funds) Berbatov. I understand that I just said that the highest scores is not a good piece of business. I am not blaming Berba, cause I think he is doing his best, but that’s not enough. We paid 30 mil for him. It took him two years to settle in, but even in his best year he doesn’t decide enough games for us. This year’s form is very inflated due to him having couple of high scoring games and don’t get me wrong I believe that this year he did enough to justify the price tag, but what about the previous two and what of future. He is almost 30 and his resale value is gone. I believe that his effectiveness will go down. What makes matters worse for him is that out game suffers. May be it’s not his fault, but I am not a fan of holding game and stuff. We always play with lightning fast wingers and make the counter our best weapons. Mid-table teams would never dare to press us before, but now we are useless cause we like to “build” our attack. In any event I truly believe that the 30 mil could have spend better. Do I blame anyone? Not at all, I am just saying that mistakes have been made in the transfer market and we are paying the price of those mistakes. It’s not all doom and gloom though. In Nani, Valencia, Chicharito and Smalling we get really good buys. We also have a really good squad, we need additions no doubt about it, but we don’t need major changes.
P.S. As already stated this is my honest opinion, so don’t start name calling and doubting my allegiance, that just immature.
smartalex – Thanks for the compliment mate.
@smartalex
I see. You know, it’s quite possible that Ferguson takes this Saturday’s game a lot seriously and plays his strongest team. We will need the a psychological boost after last week. We will see. Not too confident about Park and Ando playing any game before the international break. I hope I am wrong. Rio should play on Tuesday though. As for the veterans, we will need their experience on Tuesday, no doubt. I have a feeling that Si Alex might start with one in each game. Scholes against Arsenal and Giggs agaist Marseille.
stateside
should have been silver surfer ie pensioner on t’internet. thanks for the info l’ll try it out sometime.
cheers mate and good luck in the housing market.
About time there was a pro United article in the press, the ABU media are getting out of control.
Hi all true reds…
Pity I missed out on the fun last night with trolls such as middy, colie etc… Ah well more will appear for sure….
Off to the new thread before I end up talking to my self and waiting on this one! lol
UNITED
I see the Guardian have an article praising Phil Dowd for the way he handled the game on Sunday, they have got to be having a laugh – did they not see the Nani incident???
giggs11gerrard0 – Spot on pal at 16.24 Yes I will admit that I wanted Nani sold post xmas 2009 but I think most of us had lost patience if we are honest. As for Berbatov. No I have always liked him and anyone can check the archives. NEVER slagged him off. The Bebe signing is strange. Alot of rumours about Mendez? the agent involved and summat stinks. Not sure of the details but a very strange one.
I am pretty sure Fergie will pick a strong team for Saturday. Not just obviously to beat Arsenal but to ensure we don’t lose three consecutive games. That is the last thing the players need. We need a morale booster.
King Eric
Hope all is well buddy… Last thing we need as supporters too! I have had enough of cunts around me already! lol
obertanthe newstar – Give it a rest? Err no. I never slag players as many on here know but I just don’t think they are up to it. I know you are desperate for him to otherwise your moniker may sound a bit daft. He doesn’t look bothered to me. Hope I am proved wrong but please don’t tell me to “give it a rest ” pal. As I say I am more impressed with Morrison, Tunnicliffe , King and Pogba than these two.
aint a Colie a sort of a cabbage…….
Dandevine – Re: Park’s fitness test,. Is that true mate? I sincerely hope so.
Cedars Evening mate. Yeah sound thanks. Looking forward to tonights game. Hope you are well .
Cedars – Is that not a good thing? Having cunts around you?
@King Eric
I wouldn’t be unhappy with Ferguson making wholsesale changes for the FA Cup game and keep the first team fit and raring to go when the PL kicks back in.
Willie
I guess not, lol. But if ‘they’ can speak then no thanks!
Call me a prick, but fucking dumb cunts is why I’m here!
Maybe he could talk about the tricks of the trade
Maybe he could talk about himself
Maybe he could talk about the money that he made
Maybe he’d be saying something else
But in the communique you know he’s gonna come clean
Think what he say, say what he mean
Maybe tomorrow he got something to say
Communication
CedarsDevil
Communique
Just seen an article on the Daily Mails website (via BBC sports football gossip page) saying that the FA have allegedly contacted FIFA to gain permission to retrospectively punish Rooney for his elbow on McCarthy.
What an absolute fucking joke if it’s true! If were honest I think we all know that Roo was lucky not to be sent off for the elbow but this is turning to a witch hunt, what makes this one instance so exceptional from others that take place up and down the country week in week out – United being made an example of again!
@King Eric
You are right mate you have never slagged players off on here and only offer your opinion on who is and isnt performing.
Some fans take a morale high ground on fans who think some players are not good enough but Im not arsed about that. If a player changes my mind and comes good I am more than happy to look like an impatient cunt. I have never called out a player or booed a player at any game I have ever attended but I am certanly within my right to voice my opinion on a forum akin to being in the boozer on a weekend saying the same things over a pint.
Bebe may come good and I hope for the lad, and Fergie that he does but from what I have seen I dont want him involved in such big games right now (happy to look a cunt if he turns out to be like Nani). The Wigan game opitimimised what I think about Obertan and Bebe just not arsed texting and listening to music when the team are playing yet Giggsy who has over 600 appearences is watching like an eagle scout.