Wes Brown speaks out about Didier Drogba fouling him in the lead up to the goal that never should have happened.
“It’s very hard to take, we played really well,” said Brown. “I thought we played really well as a team and passed the ball brilliantly. We were the better team and had more chances. We should have done better with our chances, but we definitely didn’t deserve this result and it’s tough because we go home with no points. I don’t think the referee played well and we’ve been let down by that goal. The decision to award the free kick was harsh. Then Drogba was holding me and pulling me down, obstructing me from challenging for the ball when the free kick came in the box. The ref didn’t see that either – what can we do about it?”
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He’s spot on. Summarised the whole thing brilliantly. Fuck the cheating tranny drog.
Classless fans, classless players, classless team.
They truly are scum.
I can only hope that this gives us the motivation to perform like we did and win the league, so we can look back at this and thank them;
“Whatever doesnt kill you (should, in this case) makes you stronger”
Karma will come back and bite them in ass in the future just like it bite Tiny Tears when he spit on tevez@judas in the CL final.
Most enjoyable moment of the match – Vidic on the sideline laughing at Drogba ‘playing injured’ trying to get Evans red-carded.
Priceless. How about a picture Scott?
I need to see that too BrisbaneRed!!
@ edwin
well said mate.
U.N.I.T.E.D
@BrisbaneRed
Yeah, saw that. Funny how he’s magically cured when the ref booked him.
Spot on Wes.
He along with evans was very good against didier drogba and anelka. They were very assuring presence at the back(much more than rio and vidic recently) .
Btw this chelsea team has got to be the most overhyped team of the millenium. Their midfield of lamps,essien,ballack and deco was run ragged by fletcher,ando and Carrick (the so called average players who wouldn’t even make first team at hull).
Positives:
* They’re not as good as everyone seems to think they are. Our performance proved we’re still the best team in the league.
*They’re only 5 points clear and there’s still 26 games left.
*They will lose important players because of the ACON.
*Our next 10 matches are mostly teams mid table/bottom table and we won’t drop too many points, whereas they have to play the gooners and the bitters.
*We’ve only lost one more game than they did (we lost 3, they lost 2)
*We managed to only concede one goal and our superb defence kept anelka and the drog quite.
*The dippers are 12 points behind, 7th in the table.
*We outplayed the so called ‘ancelotti diamond’, and proved that not only is our midfield capable of handling theirs, but is also not the weakest midfield out of the Big 4.
*We outplayed them without first teamers Rio, Vidic and the in-form Berba.
*Carrick is finding his way into top form and Rooney is getting back to his beginning of the season form.
*Ando was fantastic, we found Scholes’s replacement although he needs to score. You wouldn’t think Fletcher’s playing with a broken bone in his ankle. Valencia troubled their defence, showed today exactly why he’s in this club.
*We’re manchester utd for fuck’s sake, the result today is no title decider, we don’t need to buy anyone in jan, we don’t need ronaldo, we have a squad good enough to win the league. So have faith in the team and BELIEVE.
AMEN Fze123!!
2 more:
*Drog showed he’s a wuss and a cheating liar (vidic witness)
*Anderson shat on fabregas, stevie me and………..essien, lumpard, ballack, deco.
@ edwin – That’s the spirit mate.
We’re Manchester United, holders of the Premiership trophy for the last three years. They are afraid of us and it showed after the end of the game, when they were celebrating and hugging (and probably French-kissing in the dressing rooms afterwards) as if they had just won the lottery.
Fze123 – Absolutely bang on mate. Some mug on the last thread reckoned we are in shit without Ronaldo and it’s between Arsenal and the Rentboys and unless we buy in Jan we are fucked. Fucking idiot United “fans”. We were excellent today and the league wasn’t decided. Like you say there are still 78 points to play for. How good will our midfield be once Hargo is back, Obertan gets game time and Ljijac comes in Jan? Hate the defeat but chuffed with the lad’s performance. Also those saying we created fuck all chances please tell me how many chances you do get in the big games?
Chelsea and Arsenal meet at the end of this month. The outlook will look brighter whatever the result, at which point our ‘fans’ can hop back onto the bandwagon.
I thought we played well and was robbed because of that cheating fucking cunt Atkinson. Drogba is a dirty cheating cunt too.
bad refereeing decisions; 1) fa cup game against Portsmouth 2) fa cup semi against everton ,welbeck pen call 3)vs liverpool 4) today!and they say
WELL THESE THINGS HAPPEN. seriously arsenal has scored 16 more goals than utd, the rent boyz goal diff is vastly superior… this utd team lacks creativity end of. last season we were out scored by the dippers. this year by all 3 top 4 teams… cant win the prem this way… hell lets bring out the last 3 we won and start shining them cause there will be none in the new year!
Great performance from the lads today, unfortunately just wasn’t to be in the end. Thought Anderson was absolutely immense.
We keep playing like that and we won’t be far away come May.
I thought we were disappointing going forward today. We didn’t create enough and the few chances we did create we were not even close to converting. The defence did extremely good, except for the goal. The referee was very, very poor today but that went both ways. I thought Evans was very lucky to stay on the pitch efter kicking Drogba in the chest, that was disgraceful and something I hope to never see from a United player again.
King Eric @ 22:45 – yes, mate, the “R-word” ! Today’s match was the kind of contest in which CR provided that little extra edge, the difference between a loss and a draw or a draw and a win. Both Valencia and Giggs had chances but neither is a particularly good finisher.
I watched this match fearing the worst and hoping for a draw; the result is deceptive since this was UTD’s best showing for a long time. The defence was strong and the central midfield was compact and efficient – Anderson and Fletcherinho were excellent and, for a change, Carrick played well in that “holding role”. AND, Edwin showed what a calming influence he brings to the team’s play.
I wrote a couple of days ago that I didn’t think that SAF is wedded to the 4-4-2; today he set out the team in a version of the 4-6-0 and it largely worked – UTD bossed the midfield and were denied a breakaway on a terrible “interpretation” of the offsides rule, not to mention TinyTears’ impression of the Jamie Carragher Method of Octopus-Defending.
Of all the positives from this match – Rooney’s fantastic footballing-brain; Fletcherinho and Anderson absolutely doing diarrhea over Ballack/Deco/Lampard; the strong play of Evans and Wesley Brown – the single most exciting thing for me was to see the really positive cameo performance from Gabriel Obertan who looked more like a footballer and less like a sprinter than in his previous appearances.
I’ve been sceptical of Obertan’s first few performances since I wanted to see what he could do in a tough, tight match against top-notch opposition. Well, “he done real good” – and that augurs well for his future development and contributions. His speed and directness – like Patrice Evra – add a cutting-edge to the attack down the left. Next, I’d like to see Nani get a chance to play on the right in place of Valencia because I believe that Nani offers a much larger set of skills and is much more likely to be a goal scorer.
Overall, it was a bad result today but a terrific performance – the kind of performance that just might provide a spark of inspiration for the rest of the season.
asidfg – Get fucked you plastic cunt.
denton – Haven’t read your full post yet but on the first thing Ronaldo didn’t do it against the Rentboys. Cashley Cole along with perhaps Gael Clichy are the only two left backs that used to contain Ronaldo.
@ King Eric – Sick and tired of these so called fans who repeatedly say they want SAF to buy villa, silva, ribery etc. I swear my brain fucking hurts by just reading that bullshit. As for the shots we had 2 on target, 9 off target and 7 blocked. That’s *18* compared to their *12*, AWAY game against an in-form team who are favourites to win the title. Arsenal? Ha. They will never be in the title race, unexperienced and can’t handle too much pressure.
Midfield boasting of: Hargo, Fletcher, Ando, Valencia, Obertan, Carrick, Giggs, Scholes, Nani, Gibson and Ljijac. This midfield department is NOT weaker than any of the Big 4′s midfields and shouldn’t be criticized any more.
As Aristotle says, ‘We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit’. We need to have consistent performances like today’s one, hopefully after the internationals we’ll hit excellent form and go on a winning run.
denton – HAVE now read your post and have to say I agree with most of it. The only thing I don’t really agree with is Nani over Valencia. Tony has come in for some unfair stick today. He played his part superbly in my opinion. He didn’t give Cashley an inch and not once let him get down the flank. Arguably the rentboys only real width.
One thing you can certainly say for Antonio, his tracking back was excellent. I was overjoyed with his workrate in helping to restrict them.
@ asidfg
Last season we were outscored by the dippers but WON THE LEAGUE you little dickhead. Getting the points is more important than scoring more goals, telling you this because it’s obvious you know fuck all bout football.
I dont want fergie to buy anyone in january,we have enough good defenders to cope,the midfield has good strength,and once hargreaves is fit we will have plenty of options with good kids hopefully coming through ie,tom cleverley,matty james,magnus eikrem etc,we will be strong there for years.As for up front I cant see anything wrong with berbatov,rooney and owen with macheda and welbeck doing their bit, with diouf coming in january and the other good kids coming through the ranks.The only position I think we will need to strengthen sooner or later is the keeper.
lol @ james f
Sometimes things just don’t go your way. I was outraged and furious after the game but now I that I can look back and see how classless the opposition was it gives me a good deal of hope for the rest of the season, that was the unstoppable chelsea! Drogba was made to look amateur by a second string central defense and their ‘shining diamond’ is cubic zarconium. Anderson and Fletcher romped all over the park makin their midfield look like boys against men. Ashley cole struggled with Valencia ( a big FUCK off to his doubters) and obertan was fucking brilliant for the bit he was on, did you see himcut back and through their defense into the box? If he can improve his finishing we’ll have quite an asset in him. Chelsea have no history and when we lift tr trophy I’ll be paying for a picture of terrys tortured expression.
@asid fag
Fuck you, you little rent boy
carrick is terrible. he is a passenger on the fletcher express at the minute. havent seen him play well for a hell of a long time. probably 08. a poor game for the chelsea midfield doesnt mean they are shit. it is just one game they wont collapse any time soon. united looked a lot better than they have been. still werent good enough today. the referee thing, although justified, is starting to get a bit tired. we should have won regardless. thats what you have to do when your united
dont write arsenal off. they do have an awesome attack and are starting to get a bit more backbone this year. remember how they outplayed us and we were jammy against them? i reckon they might do it in europe this year where they are playin great stuff. obviously if its not united. would rather them than the rentboys with their shitty turgid dazzle free football and deflected free kicks, 15 stone children up front and steamroller style. and it obviously wont be anyone but the big three
First off, we did not deserve to lose this game, we were the better team, and the ref did a poor job, esp with Rooney’s “offside” and Fletcher’s “foul”. Another positive is the the performance of the central midfielders, they were very good as a unit, although Carrick could have been better going forward. So once Hargo is back, no one can say we have the weakest midfield of the top teams. But, however, and I know this may piss off some of you guys who seem to believe that this team of ours walks on water, we were not that good, I don’t understand why everyone is so happy with Valencia, he was poor today, as he has been for all but two matches this season, he makes Giggsy look two-footed ffs, Evans should have seen red (wtf was he thinking? Very stupid, we may lose him for 3 matches because of his bs) and I think it was inside the box, so it should have been a penalty, and you know Scott would have written a lengthy article about that incident had it happened on the other side of the pitch. I hope I’m wrong, but with the way we have been playing this season, and with the form the arse are in, we might be looking at 3rd if we don’t bring in a couple of players in january, namely someone who can unlock a defence, because we just can’t rely on a 36 year old to be our saviour for an entire season, an when he isn’t playing or is off form as he was today, we look stale. A goal-hungry striker, a proper nr.9 would help as well as we are far to wasteful with the few chances we create. Maybe Ljajic and that Diouf kid can help in that department, prolly too soon for them though. Sorry for the negativity guys. Come on UNITED!
no one outside the big three for the league that is, europe is like a lottery… which awesome team will decide to have a good year and stay out of injury city
Come off it mate – What is with some of the “fans” on here? Did you watch the game? Carrick was excellent alongside Fletch.
Icelandic devil – What the fuck. Lets see you back here in May. United won’t finish third, we will win the league again. To say we didn’t play well is a fucking joke pal.
5 points is fuck all. Does nobody remember been 10 behind the geordies all those years ago and ten or twelve behind at one stage last season? Beat the rentboys at home and it will be 2 points. Far too early to say its over.
It looks like this season we are going to be playing against 12 men.
But for referees, despite playing badly against scourers, we would not have lost last two away matches. And to think they are professionals. I would not let them referee even Sunday League matches. Fucking linesman today even had a clear line on the grass between Rooney and that bastard Cole that was playing him on, yet he choose to raise the flag. He also was there when Terry brought down Valencia, yet gave nothing.
If any of us fuck up in our jobs, we’d get fired. Why should referees and linesmen not pay for their incompetence?
PS Sooner or later, rent boys will run out of their luck.
agree with some stuff there icelandicdevil
valencia looks the part imo carrick is just not united standard and giggs is a wonder of the world and is pretty much defying logic everytime he plays well so he cant be relied upon. needs to be an extra, rather than the star.
the arse are looking good. im kinda shitting myself about them. and nowhere near their peak yet (if they can keep fabregas away from his real team long enough)
on your evans thing, i dont agree, wasnt that bad.
but your spot on about the way eveyone here seems to think the team walk on water.
the way some of the people were attacking some guy earlier on (cant be bothered to scroll up, sorry whoever you are) just for speaking his mind is shocking. you rentboy you fucking cunt fag bollox expletive curse word dirty scouse fuck fuck off wanker. and the like. no need for it. its a forum for gettin a look at opinions and stuff. not for worship. that you support the team and pray for them to do well is kinda taken as a given here i think
and by the same token, nothing wrong with a nice rosy tint. its all a bit of banter. just spoils it all that bile. (unless its directed at the scouse, obviously)
king eric
you really reckon carrick was great today? i must be missin something. im wrong about these things fairly often (almost always) but i really just cant figure out how he can be considered united standard. his passing is good, but gettin a bit inconsistent and not attacking enough for my liking. he isnt too mobile and obviously doesnt like the rough stuff. hes making hargreaves look better and better.
Did anyone see that Chelsea fan brushing his teeth? I guess that’s wots needed when they sing bullshit songs! Well proud of the boys even tho we lost – I bet my main fletch got a punchbag in gym wiv ‘ref’ written on it!
Wow, easy King Eric. I said we were the better team, but that we were not that good, I mean it’s not like we were playing them off the park, is it? And I hope I’m wrong, but the performances this season just don’t fill me with confidence. It just seems there is some spark missing and we are not playing like we are used to see us playing. I haven’t given up on the league, I just think we need a little extra creativity to help us get there, and hopefully we will sign someone to bring us that extra we seem to be lacking right now. Oh, and what is this “see you back in may” shit? Are you implying that because I dare criticize our team, that I am a fair weather fan? Well I am not, I watch every game and follow every bit of news about this team and have done so for the last 20+ years. I am however not as blinkered as some fans here who seem to think that we are just going to walk the league, even though we have played poorly for most of the season, been outplayed at home against one of our main rivals, struggled against mediocre opposition and lost against our most hated rivals without a fight.
drogba = browns back pocket
hahaha owen scores goals. i can just see it now, fletch hammering away like muhhamad ali at the bag, thinkin about barca, cska moscow and divingg, chelsea… the list continnues. he’ll spontaneously conbust with rage soon if somethings not done
Sorry, but why was tiny tears (one of the best headers of the ball and it kills me to say so) able to have a free header inside the box? doesnt matter if drogba did Brown… it was bad marking and should of never happened… fact is United didnt do enough
I’m over it all already! The site of the wondeful Jonny Evans truely poleaxing that cheating diving prick, Drogba and then seeing his nasty face when he realized that he had got carded was almost worth losing for!
Did you see that Jonny got him twice in the chest in the one move. One with each foot!!!!
dave mack
you might just have a point. what is it somebody said earlier about vidic laughing, he must hate drogba as much as the rest of us do
don’t know what you lot are worrying about, today just proved Chelsea are gonna be dropping points every so often, they proved very poor infront of goal and alot of teams will take note of how easily they were dealt with today in the middle and final 3rd.
their only chance is a dive resulting in a freekick with a physical assault to head in a late winner, which for some reason is being allowed these days.
Have to be honest, before the game I was expecting us to lose today, but the team and players gave a performance I didn’t think we were capable of. Don’t know why but it doesn’t feel like a defeat..
There is great potential in this side, this was a more ‘European’ type performance which I like.. Hoping Obertan gets more chances – looks like he’ll be played on the left, which might restrict him a bit (but manager knows whats best)..
After this game I have no doubt we will challenge for the title and also Champions League – whether we win or not is probs down to referees (i.e luck!)
It’s still early days. If anything the United game still has room to improve while Chelsea is pretty much where they are gonna be in terms of quality.
We can still win this. Fuck them and their horse toothed monkey
clearly..we had been robbed in clear sunshine. nvrmnd, it is proof that we aint no lightweight here. supposed we are “finished” this season after sold ronaldo, but even the table toppers struggle to beat us, and they needed stupid referee to help them along the way sums it all. supposed “the most lightweight” midfield in premiership had outfought the so called
“ancelotti diamond”. what a shame. clearly drog was offsied, and clearly wes had been brought down, but that damn atkinson failed to detect.stupid ref, stupid linesman. we’ll bounce back just as we did last season….
come on reds…
Man Utd players and supporters can hold their heads high. Only a blind man or woman will not have been able to see what went on at Stamford Bridge. Somehow Chelsea fielded a 12th player … you know who. There was no way Man Utd was going to win, dominate the game as they may, and did, with cheating ways of Drogba and gang. I thought that Drogba was having a massive heart attack but when he got his yellow card he was well again! A red one would have ,made him ‘Superman’. Atkinson should watch the game when he is free to see that he and he alone handed the game on a platter to Chelsea. Yes Chelsea won but how long will their cheating ways last. The third law will hit them sooner than they think. I hope the FA and FIFA will be more professional and fair al the time and not back pedal when they want to remove punishment meted out to some famous wrongdoers BUT punish wronged parties when they express their feelings on wrongs committed. Refereeing is getting from bad to worse. The only way the FA can prevent football fans from noticing just how blatant and prevalent the misdemeanours of the referees are will be not to permit live telecasts of the games played. When the FA makes money from the game, it has a duty to ensure that fairness and fairplay is observed at all times.
very happy with the performance today in spite of the score. that’s all Chelsea have? Bring it on.
Johnny Evans did a splendid job today and two thumbs up for the kick on the dogBRA!!!!!!
@King Eric – and now you’re calling people cunts!
@Loas Red:
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but the funnier result: seriously wtf is this leg twitching all about lmao
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MU is still the best….
Our peformance was very pleasing today and far from what we have been doing in recent days… Hope we can keep this for up as now we will be playing mostly teams from the bottom half of the table….. All of our lads did a good job…. However for me Rooney and Giggs was off-form last nightt… Rooney’s play so too in-direct… He was often looking to pass off the ball and the defenders read that easily… Giggsy was involved but not as much as i would’ve liked….. Ando and Fletch was superbbb….. Ando was going toe to toe with Essien and Bollox on many occasions and winning or retaining the ball….. Love his physical play… Fletch was superb again last night.. didnt set a foot wrong…. That foul which led to the goal should have never been rewarded… And the foul on Brown was clear as daylight, but i’m not really surprised to see the Ref not award it to us……. How do the FA expect fans and players to RESPECT the ref when we see poor decisions being made week in week out… Than again, the FA themselves arent any better….
Bad result but great performance…. The lads should walk away from this with a good feeling as we are looking very promising and getting back to our style of playy….. also… Nani take note….. Obertan is really impressing me with his movements and control as well… I was surprised to see him take corners with his right….. Maybe out to prove a point…..
don’t like being 5 points back, but it’s still no time to panic. it’s never fair play when we visit chelsea and today is no different. these two teams have been so evenly matched for the last few years that i can’t understand why supporters get upset and go on about how we only had a few chances and we’re shite, rubbish tactics, etc.
we got the short end of the bargain ref wise, there’s no denying it, but aside from what i thought we’re poorly timed (too late) subs, i don’t think we could have played much better. no berba, bad calls, rooney was onside, drogba is a cheating twat, fletch made no foul… yes to all of it. but i hate fuckin’ excuses. we lost, we could have won, should have drawn, but we lost to stinking chelsea at stamford bridge, no shame in that. the lads played hard, and deserved at least a point, but its only november, and hopefully the african cup will put a huge wobble on the chelsea season.
anyway, the refs calls didn’t go our way today, but in football these things always even out in a season, and someday soon our opponents will go on about how we nicked a game do to bad calls and poor refs. we all have to get the anger out today, and get over it by tomorrow, its a long season and hopefully this is but a blip. in spite of the loss i was actually impressed with most aspects of our performance today, especially the midfield and the defenders.
so fuck off chelsea! win or not, we’re still manchester united and it’s still better to be us than you.
For the first time I was really pissed off during the game – refs definately pissed at Fergie and they are being hard on us.
One thing though – Giggs was too hesitant in front of goal, he had some chances but looked for the complex pass when he could have just slammed it, but he’s a ledgend. I thought Obertan should have come on for him earlier, the guy is class and he had an eye for goal.
Great credit to the players, especially the mid-field, we played brilliant so I can’t be too disappointed, but the way they got decisions and the goal does leave a bit of a bitter taste. Well done boys though, this was a mark of excellence, it was a phenomenal game.
Also, we see it so often we forget to praise how good he is – Evra was brilliant today, so were:
DEFENCE- absolutely amazing Ferdinand and Vidic were not missed, O’Shea good running forward, Evra, phenomenal, Evans solid, Van der Sar, great kicking, thank God Foster was no in goal (sorry, but he was pretty poor, let’s admit it)
MIDFIRLD – Carrick was playing like a man with a point to prove, great passing and energy,
- Fletch did not have his shooting boots, otherwise, great
-Ando, tireless, strong good forward running
- Giggs was the weakest I thought today, Obertan looked really good, could have come on for Giggs earlier
- Velencia, ran into trouble once or twice but a strong player who rattles defences, he is an asset and growing into the role
FORWARD – Rooney, did well, made one or two bad decisions, but the only place we were a bit weak was in the final third, bit of hesitancy, but he showed his class
king eric which one said we are clueless because ronaldo is gone, I will say again ronaldo is injured he is useless to anyone.
on the game like I said how can you get anything from a game when the ref makes the two biggest decisions of the game totaly wrong. but I would have loved to have playd 424 against chelsea becaus ethey were there for the taken, my11 wuld have been.
vds
o shea brown evans evra
carrick fletcher
valencia rooney owen obertan
but of there is any players we are missing is we desperatly need a number 9 someone who will get in behind defences because its getting annoying how we have this habbit of buying srikers who all come short we need someone who will go the other way. because a pacey powerful striker would have given terry hell.
It is time to put some fear into the other teams and get lots and lots of goals that will better Manchester United’s goal difference. Yesterday’s game will be the harbinger of greater days for Manchester United Football Club.
Always be closing – Shit you caught me!
IcelandicDevil – No I wasn’t implying that by saying “come back in May”, not at all pal. What I meant is it’s just November , there are six or seven months left of the season and United are barely out of first gear. There is much more to come from this team.
What a fucking joke. Terry the fucking hero. Get fucked Samuel you fat cockney cunt. The man is a disgrace : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1226224/MARTIN-SAMUEL-Terry-stands-tall-delivers-Chelsea.html
and
The Mail once again trying to fuck Fergie over :
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1226232/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-Blues-Manchester-United-boss-vents-fury-Chelsea-winner.html
hard to imagine for myself that there’s still 26 games left. it feels like the season is winding down
Also Matt Lawton of the Mail reckons “the best team and the team most likely to be crowned Champions won”. Fuck off you cunt, did you even watch the game. Cannot fucking wait till United get in their stride and the wheels fall off the “Ancelotti” band wagon. How ordinary and devoid of any spark did the Rentboys look today? They have had a much easier run so far than United. Time for us to go on an unbeaten run of games and show these cunts.
theres only one Keano… This is one thing I can’t disagree with. I know that fans here don’t like people to recommend signings but every day I dream that we get a number 9 type player, I think this is one major reason why we hardly ever score in these big tight games. The only such player in the squad is Owen but I don’t believe the manager has the confidence in him to start such matches.
BUT having said that we have operated this way for a few years now and look at the success… so there is no argument in this regard! It’s just a wish of mine that we had such a player for the big games
Did Evans have a tazer in his boot? What was the deal with Drogba’s spasm attack? Loved the shot where Vidic was grinning on the sidelines…
I thought we played this game very well, I’m not worried by the 5 point gap. Chelsea will face City and Arsenal this month, I doubt they will get 6 points form those games.
To get a result against the Russki’s you just have to be bothered.
Chelsea have lost twice this season against Villa and Wigan. Villa and Wigan are the only teams, except UTD today, to actually work hard and believe in their ability.
What I’m saying is almost every team don’t try against Chelsea which basically gives Chelsea a guaranteed win, whereas every team plays UTD as if it’s the only way they’ll survive. If teams played against Chelsea the way they do UTD, the rentboys wouldn’t be near us or Arsenal. I hope todays display from us will encourage other teams to put some fucking effort in. Hassle and keep possession to knacker out their pensioner midfield.
Chelsea’s most crucial player, Essien, will be gone for 2 months and their “diamond” will be worthless.
Drogba is shit. He’s worse than Torres and that is saying something. He’s probably worse than Ibrahimavic. Torres and Ibra being the most overrated players of all time.
Valencia brilliant.
Fletcher, Antonio, Berbs getting a rest this week.
Whether were home or away to Everton, they are in for it. An angry Wazza playing against fans he loves to piss off…. Come on United.
Oh yeah I almost forgot about the African Cup of Nations. Chelsea will lose Essien, Obi Mikel, Drogba and Kalou, right? Arsenal will lose Song and Eboue. Arsenal used to be hit harder by the African Cup when they had Toure and Adebayor as well.
“Arsenal? Ha. They will never be in the title race, unexperienced and can’t handle too much pressure. ”
I trust you’re not too thick to read the League Table?
The title hasn’t been won nor lost so quite crying. Chelsea have to play Arsenal and then Citeh. Who knows? Maybe the Wolves will give Drogba a right spanking and he’ll run off down the tunnel whinning “its a f**** disgrace”.
Chelski are a disgusting team in every way and I hope they do a Liverpool. It’ll be interesting to see how their fans or players react to a string of bad games.
I don’t think United were beaten today (Atkinson clearly needs to take some refereeing courses or something), it all depends on attitude.
From The Indie:
After his mother accepted a police caution for shoplifting earlier in the year, Terry’s father Ted yesterday fell victim to a News of the World sting. Terry senior was caught on camera facilitating a cocaine deal with an undercover reporter which was not the ideal reading for his son on the morning of a big match. Terry did a good job of stopping United’s attackers getting to the line. Pity he could not do the same for his father.
What a mob of pirates his family must be. Playing for a club like Chelsea is right up his street. They both deserve each other. No doubt he’ll be crying his heart out when his dad is sentenced.
I can’t stand watching this shite. I’ve played football my entire life and have been a man u and england fan for years, but watching games like these, in which a team wins because of poor refereeing. it’s obviously a two-way street–united benefit from goals off bad decisions, but it’s simply bad for the game and for the watching experience when referees decide the games. fans watch the game to see the players have at it. so long as the league continues to be complacent about one match official, two sideliners, and zero use of replay, games will continue to be decided by logistics.
i don’t like to watch these games, and even dislike it when united wins under those circumstances–it feels cheap. referee-decided matches happen way more in football than in any other sport, and every game that is so decided drives me a bit away from modern football and to other sports.
easy, dramatic improvements can be made. ie:
1. use post-review replay to judge and render punishments to players who dive and fake injuries. if post-match review can be used to punish flagrant fouls (punching in the face, kicking) it should be used to deter these destructive forms of cheating, too. slap a one-match ban on any and every act of diving that is clear to the review, and then see how many players will try to deceive the ref (ie: drogba faking a seizure every time he boots the ball into the stands.)
2. use in-game replay review for borderline goals. the flow of the game is already stopped with minute-long celebrations, and the perceived price of delaying goal celebrations for a review is outweighed by the elimination of unfathomable bitterness your team suffers from an illegitimate goal, not to mention the delay can be exciting and suspenseful.
3. pay the referees more. play a game with the 22 best players in the world, and the most important person on the pitch is still wearing yellow and stripes. the referee is peerless in his significance and influence on the game. 80 million pounds will develop playing talent, 1/20 of that will developing dramatically superior refereeing talent. it’s simple. want good refs, pay up. the referee development industry can be much more competitive and consistent.
4. penalize ghastly refereeing decisions. this needs to be done carefully, but one benefit of giving referees higher pay is you can rationalize financially penalizing extremely poor refereeing. this should be focused to help clean up the bottom of the refereeing pool, or repeat offenders. there are some–certainly not the majority–of refs who, in my opinion, get a bit of arrogance and complacency during the course of the match because they know they are to some degree untouchable.
implement these changes tomorrow, FA, and you will start restoring my faith in the modern game.
2 points from me this morning.
1. It’s not necessary to call people cunts and dickheads when they tell their opinion.
2. I am thinking about Fletch. Semi-final with Arsenal, missed the CL final, penalty not given against CSKA and now yeaterday. They are just fucking jealous. I despise them all but as far as i am concerned there is little we can do about this at the moment. SAF just has to do smth with this and put his comments after/before the games in the right order.
Oooh I forgot. Wasn’t that the first goal this season that Utd have conceded from a set piece?
@ chicog
nope, there was one against CSKA.
Some positives.
Pogba nets his first goal for United.
http://www.tribalfootball.com/pogba-nets-first-goal-man-utd-429941
I’ve just watched Match of the Day (I don’t live in Britain) and I have to say that I’m proud to support this team. We will bounce back. There’s a long way until May.
The only good thing out of this match is seeing Drogba kungfu kicked by Evans. Should’ve been Tiny Tears though on the end of that kick.
Ha ha! And then I saw that man wearing his sunglasses and brushing his teeth behind Salomon Kalou! Man, what kind of support is this! Chelsea fans are pathetic.
CHEATS.the players, the club, the fans.All of them.CHEATS.
Since we can’t do anything about freaking refs and their stupid decisions, we’ll have to take matters in our own hands.Simple,like what Wes said.Maintain this fine performance but add in a heap of goals.
Drogba’s behaviour was nothing short of embarrassing ysterday, if I were and I thank my personal God that I am not a Chelsea fan, I woud dis-own this muppet.
I have never seen a player act like he does, when he missed a straight forward header he had to cross himself, he was last on the pitch at halftime, having to make some sort on entrance, and the leg fit when Evans clashed with him was, well pathetic, this guy is an A 1 female organ no doubt and sums up Chelsea.
Watching it again and again now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAz_wTv5bWI&feature=player_embedded
Drogba is a cunt of the highest order and he absolutely deserved the kicks he got.
Guys,don’t worry,we’ve been worse off at this stage in many seasons and we’ve still gone on to win the league.
B E L I E V E
Drogba is a cunt ? Yes, and a friend of Patrice Evra. Tevez is also his friend.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2009/11/04/1604344/manchester-uniteds-patrice-evra-drogba-anelka-are-chelseas
A lot of negative comments for Carrick, football is all about opinions but I think Carrick is class and when he is missing I dont feel we have anyone who can switch the play under pressure. I am a huge fan of what I believe to be our three first choice centre mids now in Fletch, Ando, and Carrick. Love Scholes but think he will be utilised more than being a starter. Plus bring Hargreaves back in and then there is plenty of competition. Darren Flecther though is showing everyone now what we have been saying for years! This boy is quality and derserves his plaudits!
TOM TOM TOM
TOM TOM TOM
CLEVER CLEVER LEY
he said this today:
http://www.tribalfootball.com/watford-star-cleverley-convinced-man-utd-future-431981?
on 1:14 is tom cleverleys assist.. get in!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuMxK92Mv-A
I really like this guy! Hope Fergie does as well
he has 6 goals and 3 assists so far and he is no striker..
the future is bright..
Seems mr fatso carlo ancelotti is forgetting a few things when he says United protested a lot.Why was the german cunt ballack and tiny tears protesting every decision that went against Chelsea.why was he sleeping on the floor after colliding with his own palyer when there was hardly any contact?chelsea are Cheats and dont deserve anything.If not us i would love ARSENAL to win the league but never those boring rentboys or the dippers.we protested because the ref clearly gave favourable decisions to cheslea.we all know that 60% of the free kicks they got were dives not to mention the decisions that we did not get like the off side and the peno that wasnt given
FUCKING ROBBED!! we out played them and made them look ordinary and the ref with his dismal display cost us the game!! everybody put in a shift and showed we dont need Ronaldo at all. Fucking brilliant display by the lads just gutted we were fucked by more bad ref decisions!! Did enjoy Rooney mouthing 12 men to the camera at the end tho lol!! I love that lad!!
We need to stop using bad referees as an excuse. We just don’t create enough chances, that’s the real problem. Yes, the referee was very poor, but that went both ways. Evans clearly should have been sent off. If Terry did that to Berbatov I would have been screaming for capital punishment. So please, stop blaming the referee. We badly need som creativity upfront, last night we didn’t create one single good chance, yet everyone is raving about the performance and pointing finger to the referee. Pathetic, in my opinion.
@That Boy Neville
oh dear.which game were you watching.
Evans should have been sent off.for what.just because drogba was acting as if someone had kicked his balls.the ball was there to be won and evans went for it.he didnt do itintentionally for sure.othewise he could have caused Drogba much more damage which drogba deserves
You say we did not create enough chances
1.Rooney was wrongly given Off side.he would have scored 1-0
2.Valencia was fouled inside the box.penalty.rooney scores.2-0
3.Rooney forced cech into a good save.had a good shot from inside the area.
4.Evans headed one over the bar late on.
5.few decent shots were blocked.
6.chelsea scored a goal that should have been disallowed on 3 counts.
7.chelsea despite being the home team and form team were defending instead of attacking and blocking our shots by crowding the area.
8.Rather than us chelsea were playing for a draw.
9.ypou are not going to get a dozen chances in such big games.it was chelsea,not hull city.
@aig alex is god
An offside decision? A few decent shots blocked? You make my point exactly. Pathetic. With Ronaldo, or a decent creative replacement, in the team we would have won 3-0. We created FUCK ALL and everybody is happy with the performance. Fergie is blaming the referee to take the pressure of him and the boys. The fact is Arsenal has scored THIRTEEN goals more than us this season. It’s just not good enough and we need to add some attacking options in January.
@That Boy Neville
Ronaldo always ahs been in Coles backpocket when we have played chelsea.You can hardly expect to get chance after chance when you play a side like chelsea who play boring football.Arsenal are playing well but then they always batter the lower teams.They have blown it away against us and city and have to play Chelsea and Liverpool.Lets see how they do there.Its about points.Arsenal will typically blow it away when injuries take their toll on the Arsenal players.WE will get better and that goal difference will disappear given that Arsenal and Chelsea have some tricy games coming up while we have games which we can win comfortably.We dont need any attacking options.Obertan will gradually come good.Valencia is looking good.he will improve too.Berba is looking good.carrick had agood game yesterday.Fletcher is back.Anderson looked great too.Rooney was excellent yesterday.we dont need anyboday.owen too will do better as the season goes on and get more goals.I ams not saying yesterdays performance was breat but after the Liverpool game yesterdays performace was much better and there were many positives bearing in mind everyone expected us to lose badly yesterday
simple matter is, we lost at liverpool and we lost yesterday.
Doesnt matter how good you look, its a results business.
Alan hansen is not ruling United out.says we can still win the league. Good read this
http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/29595/Hansen_Uniteds_performance_underlined_why_they_remain_a_strong_contender_to_win_title.aspx
@aig alex is god
So everybody in our team will improve while Arsenal and Chelsea will suffer. Fantastic, no need to worry then!
@That Boy Neville
maybe i need to explain in detail so that youc an understand
1. Arsenal side is still young and have blown it away in the past.i am notsaying it will happen again but can happen.
2. Chelsea will lose players due tom African cup of nations.They can sign players in january but usually major transfers dont take palce in January.
3.Chelsea team has key players around 30 nyeasr of age so they may fade away like they did after December last season.
4.Chelsea still have to play Arsenal and City away while they will have to visit Anfield and Old Trafford in the 3nd round of fixtures.
5.Arsenal have struggled when their injuries mount up because they cannot replace Fabregas and Van Persie.
6.The way United played foir the last 5 weeks we can only improve because most of our performances were poor by our standards.
7. United always improve after christmas.
8.Ferdinand Vidic are class acts.they will recover their form for sure.
9.We still have Obertan who is looking a great prospect and Ljajic and Diouf to come in.They can make an impact.Dont rule that out as well.
10.WE have the best manager in the world.he will make sure thatw e get back to our best soon.
If these points are not enough i cant say more.
If, but, maybe, if, but and maybe.
From what I saw of the game you lot have every right to feel aggrieved at the result. You played better and were no way helped by the ref however we had a similar experience at OT even though I would blame it on gross stupidity from our team rather than any underhand tactics from the ref despite what some of our fans were saying at the time with regard to the Rooney’s penalty.
Despite this Chelsea look a very solid outfit this year and if you guys go on to win the title it will be an outstanding, outstanding achievement if only for the fact that you will have done it 4 times in a row. No doubt if you don’t win it there will be fools saying that SAF is past it and that you miss Ronaldo too much ( you do miss Ronaldo but any team in the world would miss a player like that ).Either way it’s gonna be an interesting season….
@aig alex is god
Some of the points you are making are valid, but others very naive. Arsenal will probably suffer, but they do look stronger this year. They are a young side but they have been playing together for a few years now. Arshavin and Vermaelen are top signings and some of their young players have improved. Chelsea must be regarded as the main threat but I’m not prepared to write of Arsenal just yet.
You’re absoluetly right Chelsea will lose players to ACOF. They will miss Sunderland & Birmingham at home and Burnley & Hull away. Hardly impossible for them to pick upp 12 points from those games. Besides, as you say, they will probably buy in January.
Arsenal and Chelsea will play some difficult games but we have already lost to Burnley and dropped to points at home to Sunderland.
All I’m saying is that we really need to buy, and buy good, in January if we are to stay top. We need to replace Ronaldo and Tevez (don’t even metion Valencia and Owen, show some respect). We are blaming referees when we should look at our performances, which frankly are not good enough. We were outplayed at Liverpool and we didn’t create anything against Chelsea. That concerns me. If we keep blaming injuries and referees instead of looking at the weakness in our team and start doing something about them, we can end up in third place or worse.
I am still numb. I know it will pass but I feel like I’m losing faith in the game, y’know, what’s the point!?!
The best part? I’ve got two whole weeks to dwell upon it. Great!
I fucking hate you John Terry, Chelsea and co. You cheating fucks!
:’(
Outside of Rooney offside and Valencia penality – the great chances of the game fell to valencia [I think around 83+] and he hit it wide – that would’ve been 1-1 and Giggsy had another at his left and chose to pass instead of shoot. We need to capitalise on such instances.
Oh and well done Jonny Evans, it was worth it. HA HA
@Gooner77
thanks.atleast you agree.surprised that some united fans dont have more sense.and i am not ruling Arsenal out at all.you guys ahve more than just an outside chance to win the league.you guys are looking great and if Cesc stays fit throughout the season you guys have a great chace because he is creating as well as scoring goals this year.
@tufty.
you have to be hopeful.anything can happen.these ifs and buts are not big ones either because there are still 26 games to go and not 6 games left.chelsea will drop many more points.we just have to ensure we dont drop those many.despite ronaldo struggling last year we still came back from 8-9 points behind.no reason why we cant do it again.
@aig alex is good
I take issue with you saying we always blow it against the big teams. Last season we beat you at home and drew at OT, we drew with Liverpool home and away and beat Chelsea at the Bridge and got battered at home by them on the 10th of May. So in 6 games we lost one when our season was effectively over. We lost to you in the CL because you were much the better team than us – simple as. We lost to Chelse in the FA Cup Semi possibly because they were better than us but as mainly, as most Gooners feel, because Arshavin was left on the bench. Our title challenge last season was over early due to losses against the likes of Fulham, Stoke and Hull early in the season. It’s simply not true to say that we batter the small teams and crumble against the big boys.
@That Boy Neville
Evans hardly ‘kicked’ Drogba in the chest. He was jumping for the ball and Drogbas chest got in the way of his foot. And I would suggest you look at Drogbas actions again, the only reason his chest is in line with Evans foot is the reckless attempt by him with his running jump towards Evans in an attempt to play the man.If he had gone for the ball his chest would not have been at foot hight
@That Boy Neville
make what you want to of that.i have faith that we will bounce back soon adn thrash teams like we did 2 years back.Its not only the games during the ACON but the travelling,chances of picking up an injurya nd the players have to play every 3-4 days.all these things matter.and i repeat again we dont need to buy.valencia is imporving with every game.Owen will get bgoals.seems you forgot the city winner.we would have been in further trouble hadnt it been for him.
I have faith in this team.LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN MAY
I think another important factor to consider is that teams raise their bar when they play United – it’s the glamour of the situation, when you play United, you know millions of people around the world are watching, so you play accordingly, when you play London, you know some Boyze in Norf London are watching in some community housing – this is the only reason Arsenal have scored more goals than us.
“With Ronaldo we would have won”. Oh please do fuck off and watch Madrid then. Some of the comments about missing Ronaldo actaully make me sick. Like aig says he would still be climbing out of Coles arse pocket.
Most british football journalists are simply pathetic. Rather than stating the obvious that United were robbed yesterday and Fergie is absolutely right and joing him in slating incompetent refereeing, they are campainging for Fergie to get further punishment that already awaits him for his outburst after the Sunderland match.
If they had spine, the FA would stand up to referees. If nothing, you’d expect a fair play from an englishman. After United’s last two away matches, it looks like the English referees have thrown fair play out. If they continue like this, they risk losing the whole integrity of the Premiership this season.
does any one know what rooney mouthed to the camera after the game?
Xyth – Yeah I know mate. However the FA have stated that no action will be taken against Fergie for yesterday. Too fucking right! Why would they take action anyway? Seems every manager other than Fergie can make comments.
aig – Alright mate. You forgot to mention the fact there are still 26 games to go and 78 points to play for.
Have to say I am amazed by comments such at those from ‘That Boy Neville’
- You team is incredibe and has been throughout the Premiership years. You’ve won 3 titles on the trot as well as the CL and if my memory serves me correct a couple of domestic cups? And that’s just in the last 3 years. If you don’t win the title this year it will not be a disaster. Regardless of that 12 games have been plaed and your still up there and still with everything to play for. Your manager is the greatest manager ever to operate within these shores (possibly the world) and you are ranting on here?
@King Eric
I’m not saying it was wrong to let Ronaldo go, and I’m glad he did. But I have a huge problem with the replacements being Valencia and fuckin Owen. The money from the Ronaldo deal should have been spent on quality players. We created fuck all against Liverpool and Chelsea, and very little against Arsenal. We’re not playing well this season, I think vereybody can agree on that. That’s why we are five points adrift, not the referees.
@Gooner77
i am saying that Arsenal have the ability to self destruct from winning positions.thats your problem.You should have won both at Old Trafford and the Wastelands.but you lost it.You have got massive games against liverfool and chelsea that may determine how much you have learnt from your mistakes.take into account the 2 goal lead thrown away against West ham.You guys are in with a great chance but you could have been top already.
@ Gooner77
Well, maybe that’s the difference between Arsenal and United. You’re probably still purring from your unbeaten season some ten years back.We want to win EVERY year. And there’s no reason why we shouldn’t. If we would have spent the vast amount of money we got for Ronaldo wisely in the summer we would have been top by now.
King Eric
hi mate.good to see you.am getting tired of some fans who have no faith in the team.lets see what these people say in may when we lift no 19 and create more history.yes 78 points is a lot and things can change drastically.
@That Boy Neville
so who should have we gone for
60 million for ribery.
50 million for kaka
45million for david villa
35 million for David silva
47 million for that argie cunt
50 million for Aguero
35 million for benzema
cant you guys see what SAF is doing.he is waiting for things to calm down so that we dont have to play over the top prices for players with madrid and shitty in the market.why are we looking in the short term.lets look at long term.same things were being said in 2003.eventually ronaldoa nd rooney stepped up.it took time but it eventually happened.
@ aig alex is good
Yeah agree with you 100 percent with regard to our self destruct, that has been the most frustrating aspect of our team over last few years. Glad that City are starting to show the collection of misfits and mercenaries that they really are now…..although imagine if they sacked Hughes and got Mourinho?
@ That Boy Neville Said
Errr no I’m not still purring over that unbeaten season and it wasn’t 10 years ago and maybe you are right with that being the difference between us and you but I would beg to differ as we go into each season with the intention to win things. You clearly don’t remember the pre-Fergie years when you went a very long time without winning the title. I think its simplistic at best to try and argue that you just go out and spend 70 mill to replace Ronaldo and you would be top of the league, didn’t Fergie develop and nurture Ronaldo over a number of years to make him the player he was?
@Xyth
Fergie has screwed us a bit when it comes to Refs. Ever since his outburst they have been out for United blood (Highlighted perfectly by Nevs sending off in the Carling Cup, sure he caught the guy on the follow through but when the Ref justifies the sending off in his report as Neville making no attempt for the ball. A ball that he did win so how can he have made no attempt)
There has been some poor decisions going in our opponents favour in every game since.Penalties/fouls aren’t given for us that should be, players not sent off that should have been and some really harsh decisions against us.
Not sure yesterdays comments will have helped either
“Fergie has screwed us a bit when it comes to Refs.”
oh cmon! he won us numerous titles and the name. don’t even dare to question him in this circumstances. he wanted to take the pressure/attention away from our players and i am proud of him.
Fletcher told the Manchester Evening News: “It was clearly not a foul. I knew at the time and I have watched it again on the replay. I back-heeled the ball and Cole just jumps up in the air and the ref gives a foul.
“I think we are starting to see Mr Wenger’s comments starting to influence referees which is a shame really. Now we have to raise our game and ensure these decisions are not affecting the game.”
Precisely what i thought.I truely feel for Fletch.Mr Wenger, though i do respect him and his team,was simply talking rubbish about Fletch after the gunners game at OT.At that time,you’d probably understand his agony of being the better team but still losing at OT.However i thought his comment on Fletch was total nonsense.I’ve not seen a more honest, hardworking and driven player like Fletch.Wenger’s comments are indeed affecting Fletch nowadays i feel.Well, even though i may agree that the gunners were the better side at OT,at least neither side cheated.Unlike the daylight robbery yesterday.
So like what Fletch’s said,we’ll just have to raise our game and fire away.
@aig
Always positive pal, on alan hansen i was watching mothd 2 last nite he said 3 defeats is 2 many for united which i thought was a strange comment, considering arsenal and chelsea have lost twice already this season. We hauled in the dippers from 10 points back so 5 points is nothing.
Hi everyone. Despite what went down this summer,i vowed that i wouldn’t make any critisism on our transfers until next summer. And i truly believe that Valencia,Obertan and Owen have done very well so far.
That being said, i am sorry but we must not the lousy officiating mask our own recurring problem for the past year and a half. And that’s that we can’t kill teams off. Especially in these big games. In recent seasons, we have made fun of Arsenal being all pretty passing and no end product. Well that was us yesterday. It’s easier to accept a derby defeat when you play crappy. But defeats like this are harder to stomach. And this is a problem that could come back to haunt us later on.
@aig alex is god
All the palyers you mention are worth considering. And shut up with the ‘calm down’ nonsense. It’s not as if City or Chelsea are runinng out of money. On the contrary new teams will start spending soon. Even small teams like Birmingham have money now and that will keep prices high across the board. We have always paid over the odds and set transfer records. The Glazers says the money is there to be spent and Sir Alex should have done so in the summer.
@Gooner77
Of course it would be extremly difficult, impossible even, to replace Ronaldo straight away. That dosen’t mean we should capitulate and settle for Valencia and fuckin Owen. We also lost Tevez, while Giggs and Scholes can not be relied upon as much as last season.
You can talk all you want about the squad looking good, neither performances nor results back you up and you know it.
United didn’t get the rub of the green.
Terry tackle was a clear penalty.
However, Evans should have been sent off.
Arsenal projected to score more than 100 league goals?
@Corea:
Hi mate. Fergie spoke his mind after the Sunderland game. But now he has to take it under the chin. The moment he questioned Wiley’s fitness, I knew that we would get biased refereeing from then on. And Fergie should have known that too. Nothing more we can do now. That’s the kabal known as referees…
@willierednut
yes.i did criticise the team after the sunderland draw but we have to remember a few things.firstly we wont get everything our way.secondly because we are so sucessful the fa and everyone is jealous of us which is normal and it is affecting us to some extent.WE all know United are a big team and will bounce back.It is not about how much you support when things are going your way but how much you support your team when things are not all hunky dory that shows what kind of a supporter you are.thats why i hate some glory hunting fools who slate the team when things go a bit wrong
I love United.it is my passion.even if United get relegated i will support the club and think postive.
UNITED TILL I DIE
@Costas
Well said mate, I said the exact same thing to a mate at the pub yesterday after one of the many occasions the lads tried to walk the ball into the goals a la Arsenal… Carrick should have put one of his shots on target, and it would have been nice for Fletch to score one, but we are severely lacking in that killer instinct that helped us destroy teams… after rinsing my Gooner mates for so long, it’s upsetting to see United play like this, and them score for fun!!!
@That Boy Neville
This is manchester United,not real madrid or Chelsea to pay over the top money for silly players.we make legends,dont buy them.just wait and watch as 2 or 3 players become world class in the next few years and United start dominating again just as Ronaldo and Rooney have done in the last few years.
Remember what Maicons agent said.players whow ant trophies will join United.
“One day it’s Real, the next it’s United and more recently it has been City. The player has already said he wants to remain at Inter. If Real or United knock at the door then that’s one thing, but City? What would Maicon do at City? Let’s not joke around…”
Maicon’s agent was not too happy about his Brazilian international client’s rumoured move to City.
shitty,birmingham will never be the club United are.players like maicon,etoo,kaka know its not about money,but trophies
@Muggaz and @Costas
Actually our problem has never been scoring goals, it’s been converting the number of chances we get. Even now having scored a lot of goals already we could of scored plenty more, Spurs should of been hit for 5 or 6 last week. If you look at goals scored last season we actually scored the same number as you lot, it’s just we let in a lot more.
That Boy Neville – Tevez? Are you serious. Even the bitters are wanting shut of him.
@ Costas
yes, it’s true. but Fergie is a human after all and he isn’t getting any younger. he knows he made the mistake and he apologized for that.
this world is cruel and you have to have strong personality in order to survive. he has done just that all of these years and it is one of the reasons we’ve been so successful.
i made one huge mistake in 2005 when i questioned him and i won’t do it any time again.
@Corea
I’m not questioning him, I’m stating what seems to be a fact that the ref fraternity is punishing United to get back at him stating an opinion
I see that cry baby cunt Terry is saying to United and Arsenal “catch us if you can”. He reckons they will open up a bigger gap. Their arrogance and premature celebrating will be their downfall.
@ Wakey
no offence, mate. just thoughts. we are here to change the opinions.
*exchange
@Gooner77: I wasn’t talking about the Arsenal team of this season. I think you have actually become more deadly this season. I think though that over the years Arsenal have been wasteful in front of goal despite the fact that they had huge amounts of possesion. A nasty habit we have picked up in recent months.
@Corea: In 2005 i questioned him too. And i was ashamed to admit it in this blog. There is no doubt in my mind that he can get the team right. The problem i had was that he got into a war with the referees. He would never come out a winner in this one.
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/382267536sp?-11193
Looks like wazza cud get charged this time.
@ Costas
in the past Fergie always said what he thought of refereeing. maybe times have changed.. maybe he is getting older. but i can’t blame him for that. he is like he is.
And anothe thing. In 2005 i questioned him, in 06-07 season i felt ashamed of myself becaue he built the team that played great attacking football. it’s a shame that during the next seasons we lost the flow of our game. game by game.
xavifamilia @ 4:49: “it feels cheap. referee-decided matches happen way
more in football than in any other sport” – except, perhaps figure skating and rhythmic gymnastics during the period of Russian-dominated judging.
I agree with your call for video replay – the amount of time lost for “goal celebrations” and “injury-related spasms” is more-than-enough to cover the time that would be spent on video replays.
What I find even more shocking, though, is the absolute stupidity of the 19th-century offsides rule. It’s almost always “interpreted” incorrectly and, in truth, replays show that linesmen continually favour the defender which is the exact opposite of what they’re supposed to do. I favour a “zonal” offsides system like that used in ice-hockey – much easier to judge and has the added bonus of spreading out the field of play. But, realistically, it will never happen in my lifetime.
So, the best sport in the world will continue to be tarnished by incompetent refereeing. I don’t blame the referees = they work under incredible pressure and are required to make split-second judgements. It’s an impossibility. That might have been justifiable in the 19th century when the players were “amateurs” and the stakes were low but now the game is a gigantic business and it’s simply idiotic to continue with outdated methods of refereeing when other sports have proved that they can change with the times.
KING ERIC – I am not dissing Valencia but I would like to see Nani given simiilar opportunities to play on his stronger side when/if Obertan is given the chance to play on the left.
@ Ivan
No, I am thankfully not thick and perfectly able to read the league table. I said what I said on account of the previous seasons. They might be doing well now, they started the season pretty well and are scoring plenty, but their players are young, lack experience, won’t be able to handle the pressure of competing for the title and have blown it before, so it’s likely to happen again.
Lads
To be honest do we all think fergie cares if the FA fine him or give him a Touchline ban?… I honestly dont think so!
What the FA have to realise is that Referees are accountable also for their actions and decisions.
For me i would have had massive respect for the Referee to come on Sky Sports review the incident and say.
1 – I got a little caught out with my positioning and didnt move quick enough when ashley cunt got in my line of sight.
2 – I didnt spot the Pull on Brown, If i had i would have given a free kick and disalowed the goal.
3 – From The replay i dont think Drogba was offside and if the brown insident didnt happen would have given the goal.
4 – Terrys pen Challange – Looking at from that angle i would or still would not of given a pen!.
Refs are human and sometimes make mistakes, i really understand this. The FA talk about respect but for me respect has to be earned! Why should Referees not make statements after seeing replays! Why not own up to mistakes they have made. They dont have to appologise but at least acknowledge!
I dont think goal line officals are the ultimate answer atlhough for the premier league and champions league and from the semi finals of our cup competition. I recon that we should have the ability to dispute 1 decision each match for each team and the captain or manager can use it….. Sort of like Rugby but limit them to 1 per match! – Even limit what they can be used for, bad tackles, Goals that where ruled off side etc…
The other angle on this could be Goal Judges, who review each goal scored and determind if their is an infringment. Is it offside, Was the ball in… Then Display a goal or cumunicate this to the ref!
The main thing that really rattled me yesterday was the failure to add on 30 seconds for the Substitution in Overtime.
We had 5 minutes overtime, chelsky bring on a sub and only 5 minutes were played!.
I accepted that the ref didnt spot the infringment on Brown although not happy but these things happen from time to time. Some go for you some go against!
I think the refs are against us at the moment. Although that Cunt Cole doesnt help but i will give him credit he certainly can act! 10 out of 10 for conning the ref for the free kick!…
What a whiner Brown is. If Drogba had gone down in the area as Brown did he’d have been slated for diving.
Brown dived under a non-existent challenge. What a pansy.
VIVA JOHN TERRY!